What are some ungamifiable books/movies?
Most of them, really. Are you 12?
Lolita
>>744676785There would never be a good adaptation of this story.
>>744682919those can be done as VNs
>book would actually adapt very well to vidya
>>744683012Just like the three-chinamen problem.
>>744683083Not without turning it into character-driven melodrama slop
>>744682809Like millions of them, but that one could easily be a point and click adventure.
>>744683175>I've never played a VN or adventure gameGo figure. That's why you're a faggot who make shit threads.
>>744683295You can't "play" a VN anon
>>744682809>What are some ungamifiable books/movies?Three Body Problem could be done by just making it some David Cage style games.Now House of Leaves on the other hand, that shit is probably much harder to get right.
>>744683338By that logic this >>744683012 post is retarded. And so are (you). Also:>you can't play and adventure gameDouble retard.
>>744682809
>>744682809This mostly wouldn't be made because human extinction is caused by two of the Galaxy's biggest "woman moment"s.Possibly three, if you think the very ending of the series was also a trap.
What books had GOOD vidya adaptations?
>>744683646Dune and Jackie Chan biography.
>>744683637Femboy humanity didn't deserve to live on, not after they tried to put /ourguy/ Luigi on trial
>>744683646The Witcher series is an obvious one. STALKER is based on Roadside Picnic. I guess you can throw in some of the good Lord of the Rings games.
>>744682809This is literally a prop hunt though.
>>744682809Battle Royale. The fact that you have a battle royale genre and none of them work like the novel/manga/movie is proof that you can't.
>>744683646parasite eve sorta counts. romance of the three kingdoms has 900 trillion games about it. there are probably a few good ones in there somewhere.
>>744683928what's a prop hunt?
>>744682809Any book worth reading is unadaptable to a video game.
>>744683061This book is so cringe at pointsThen, 99% of books are cringe
>>744684649>book>worth reading
>>744684649t. no games pseud
>>744683175That's literally what the books already are though
>>744683061>biblically accurate angels>herman miller chair
>>744683465Apple is making a Neuromancer show, and it looks like shit, doesn't look cyberpunk-y at all
>>744682809After reading those VR game sections it became very clear that the author has never interacted interacted with a video game in his life.
>>744685108Literally the opposite, they're dry as a desert and with paper-thin characters. Still fun to read for the epic moments
>>744685353This chinese boomer predicted VRchat in 2008
>>744683012VNs aren't video games.
You play as a wallfacer and it's like a management/citybuilder game with a bar that tracks your wallbreaker's progress when you get too predictable
>>744685353Come on anon, that's just for the sake of the story, if it were meant to be realistic it would be boring as fuck to read through the sections
It could be a universe sandbox management type of game where you have to develop your civilization and colonize as many planets/systems/galaxies without being discovered by the other races of the universe
>>744685357>they're dry as a desert and with paper-thin charactersThat's pretty much a given for sci-fi literature, it's a genre that carries itself more by the mind blowing concepts it presents rather than the charactersAsimov and Clarke's books were written in the same way. And i don't get attached to characters easily either so i really don't care about it
>>744683061This is just Berseker for pseudo-intelectuals.
>>744682809Rainbows End, because once you make a decent game for it, you've basically prototyped a workable augmented reality ecosystem. And since no one can seem to do that while focusing on it, there's little hope it'd happen accidentally.
quick someone shit out a horrible malazan vidya game>>744683061blacktongue thief and/or its world would adapt pretty well also
>>7446863503BP characters can still be memorable even without a real personality like Zhang Behiai
>>744685508GITS had an entire episode about that in 2002.>>744686074You can have your exposition device and still make it make sense as a video game.
>>744683465nobody gives a fuck about adaptations retard, it's just a way of talking about books on faster boards without getting the thread deleted
>>744683637It was already over when they picked Cheng as swordholder, blame whoever voted for her
>>744686714Having a Chinese name already discards a character from being memorable.
>>744685336>doesn't look cyberpunk-y at allWhat do you mean anon? All the retards of the genre think cyberpunk is all about litter and narrow streets and the trailer gives you that in the first 20 seconds. After that its all jacking in the matrix and le bad elites.
>>744686862they are literally gamifying it bro but i get what you meanshit cuttlefish couldn't even novelify the story for the second book, gave up on writing a third, and the first one sprints to the end in the last two volumes because of publisher shenanigans
>>744686714Also Thomas Wade and Luo Ji. And i like Cheng Xin too despite the fact she caused the apocalypse two times. I think she's cute, but then again i have a thing for asian girls
/lit/v/ here>>744682809I can see this working quite well as one of those 80s/90s point and click puzzle adventure games a la shogun for the MS-DOS. I envision a lot of the puzzle's answers being related to anti-logic / breaking laws of physics. As an alternate attempt to adapt this book, instead, adapt a playable version of the in-universe Three Body video game.>>744683061This is one of the most vidya-esque books ever. There's literally bosses. Also, the plot is pretty much medieval Last of Us.>>744685681I would love an Eschaton video game.>>744683646As I mentioned above, Shogun for the MS-DOS.Dune and Dune II are both good and the sequel basically started the RTS genre. Some horrible examples, but you can kinda look at Stalker, any James Bond game, and some Tom Clancy games as being vidya adaptations of books. Stalker is inspired by Roadside Picnic. I don't know if there was a Bond book that received a straight vidya adaptation (i.e. GoldenEye is inspired by James Bond, but the movie is not directly based on any of the books).On the topic of Tom Clancy, I would love another attempt at a Red Storm Rising vidya.
>>744687117I can still remember the name of almost all chinese characters and i'm usually a retard when it comes to names, but then again their names are usually chinese words for certain conceptsThe mc of the second book is called Luo Ji which quite literally means "logic" in chinese lol
>>744687117I don't remember their names but I remember most of the characters
>>744686862u people actually read this gay sheit?
>>744686992>>744685508neil stephenson made up second life/vr chat back in snow crash in 90whateverand cryptocurrency in one of his other novels
>>744682809The episode with the labor camp and the secret base can be turned into a porn game, where the main character carries out her tasks and periodically "pays off" the guards
>>744682809Good GOD I love this trilogy so much. Cixin Liu is a genius author and Ken is an absolutely masterful translator. The tulpafaggotry in the second book was top notch as well.As far as gamifiable books, Red Rising would be a great candidate for vidya, just off the top of my head.
>>744687032Oh indeed.But that was the second woman moment.
>>744683465I'm mad as hell because Stufio Trigger should have adapted Snow Crash, not Cyberpunk 2077. You cant tell me that wouldn't be worth a watch
>>744682809The Three-Body Problem is such a funny look into the projection of the Chinese mindset where they are unable to come up with a perfect solution to a hard problem and then decide that in response that some genocidal response is only other way and is "how the universe works".In the real world there's all sorts of practical ways to get past the three-body-problem, like for example just doing dynamic orbit adjustment to maintain an unstable equilibrium like how most life works, or just building interstellar space colonies with thrusters. Instead the Trisolarians decide on some convoluted plan that involves higher dimensional tech all that dosen't even succeed anyways.
>>744683465Pretty sure the problem with Neuromancer was that all its best ideas had already been cannibalised by other media like The Matrix, etc. Chris Cunningham was meant to make a film out of it like 20 years ago, but that was the biggest problem. General audiences who didn't know the book would just assume you were ripping off The Matrix, etc.
>>744684170I think the problem with Battle Royale was that it was kids (under 18YO) killing other kids. Pretty sure that's a no-no in Hollywood due to inspiring Columbine-style copycats, etc. You can have kids killing adults though, or adults killing kids, no problem.
>>744688485>can create a fleet that can travel 450 years uninterrupted>can create quantum super intelligent AI computers that exist within an atom>can't just create a space colony somewhere or an artificial planetlol
>>744688485The issue for them wasn't solving the TBP anymore, they had to escape because they found out their planet was doomed to fall into one of the three suns eventually. I could explain why that would inevitably happen but i doubt you'd want to read it all
>>744688485It makes more sense when you read it as an allegorical critique of the Chinese Communist system.
>>744689897>Didn't read the last book to understand Dark Forest cosmology and why it's dangerous to do anything that might send signals to the cosmosThese are the people who call others "media illiterate" btw
>>744690068>can't do anything or people will fold space into a pancake>LOL LETS SEND AN INVASION FLEETok
>>744689982But that's exactly what it is, their planet was even heavily based on the cultural revolution era where people had to abide by the new orders or risk being considered "reactionaries" and thus put down
>>744682809>>744683637>>744688485The scene with the wire cutting the ship in half was so absurd I actually vomited. It is one of if not the dumbest scenes I have ever seen in movies or TV and it is played 100% straight.
>>744682809Isn't this basically Arknights?
>>744690146>Pigeon shitting on the chess board and acting like it wonLol bye
>>744690207It's a wire made of nanomatter, honestly just ditch the netflix series, it's a bastardization of the books
>>744688485The problem comes in the later books where it turns out that the Trisolarians aren't even the biggest threat, and their bullshit got loud enough for another even more advanced hostile civilization to notice.But the issue is that the conclusion they come to is dumb (stay quiet so no one notices you, and squash any rivals you come across). Dark Forest theory falls apart if even a handful of civilizations figure out how to work together.
>>744689881Nah, the reason you can't gamify Battle Royale is because deployment is sequential as well as from a singular spawn point. Unless developers hard code it to where the first dude gets a shitty kit, a vast majority of the victories will end up being the result of the first guy out just spawn camping. The reason such a deployment works in the books is because the students are still in shock and denial in regard to the events happening to them, and you can't really gamify that.
>>744690642There are a few that work together, like the zero-runners, but they're the exception and not the rule, and the goal they work towards is to fold the dimensions until the universe resets back to its original stateDark Forest theory is like a universal stretch of natural selection we see here on Earth, there are a few organisms that work together and thrive, but the rule of survival of the fittest still prevails. Don't forget that the universe of TBP has as many civilizations in the cosmos as there are stars, and these civilizations keep expanding while the total amount of mass stays the same.Different races exterminate one another because 1. The biological differences in body and mind makes them immediately distrustful of what the other might be thinking, and 2. If things continue like this, there will eventually reach a point where the entire universe will be so crammed with life that there will be no matter enough for everyone
>>744690760You could just give them different spawn points. It's a game version not a 1:1 VN.
>>744691035>You could just give them different spawn pointsThat defeats the point that >>744684170 was making.There's a fuck ton of battle royale games, but all of them take liberties rather than following how the program worked in the novel verbatim. You get to spawn wherever you choose, the map is an ever encroaching circle rather than just random blocks on a grid being designated lethal, kit procurement is based on finding them in the environment rather than taking what you "spawn" with and using it to take what others have.The rules of it work fine and well in the novel/manga/movie because what drives it forward is the character drama. You can't force drama in a multiplayer video game, and multiplayer games are hardly ever propelled forward by drama.
>>744683465the adaptations of jojo and monster are good though? also berserk was always done well for the golden age arc
>>744691356Yeah you guys are both retarded. Not a single video game is an exact copy of the source material. Hell, just look at the examples ITT, both Dune games are great and they take huge "artistic licenses".
>>744682809If you want a more compelling contact book, read The Mote in God's Eye. Some of it is a slog, but it's depiction of alien life is extremely well done
>>744691493Then by your logic not a single book/movie is ungamifiable. Just slap the title on a 2d platformer and you got "book : the game".
>>744691575Welcome to 44 years ago, zoomie.
>>744691015>Dark Forest theory is like a universal stretch of natural selection we see here on Earth, there are a few organisms that work together and thrive, but the rule of survival of the fittest still prevails.This is a misunderstanding of survival of the fittest. It doesn't necessitate competition where the losers go extinct. Sometimes that happens, but that's not what the theory describes. Survival of the fittest just means that you die off if you don't find or if you lose your niche. Sometimes that niche involves symbiosis with another species, where you cease to be separate organisms. And even if destruction/assimilation is inevitable, there is still value in being able to exist for some period of time - which would privilege "prosocial cooperation" over "reckless and possibly suicidal antagonism". >1. The biological differences in body and mind makes them immediately distrustful of what the other might be thinkingThe point is that overcoming this is the key to surviving an antagonist's attack, and all it takes is a few civilizations realizing this to flip the paradigm. The whole reason the series kicks off is because a human recognizes a twisted sort of kinship with the Trisolarians, something they feel more than their connection to humanity.
>>744691642Anon, the fact that ET ended up in a landfill proves your argument wrong though.
>>744682809Already done
>>744691680It's a video game and it's an adaptation, right? gg no re
>>744691747An adaptation that was panned, meaning the general public doesn't agree that just slapping the name of a movie onto a game and calling everything different about it "artistic liberties" does not equate to gamifying the subject.
>>744690068>Dark Forest cosmology>core assumption that communication over vast distances takes too long to meaningfully asses risks and respond to threats >please ignore Sophons breaking the speed of light to enable such communicationPretty silly.
>>744691831>it doesn't count because it hurt my feelings>ad populumAre you a woman or something? Post tits.Either way, by your own logic this isn't a real adaptation of BR because it takes some liberties and isn't a 1:1 reproduction of the book, right?
>>744691995>Either way, by your own logic this isn't a real adaptation of BR because it takes some liberties and isn't a 1:1 reproduction of the book, right?Duh.
>>744691993>>please ignore Sophons breaking the speed of light to enable such communicationThey still had to travel there at sub light speed first.If they were dealing with a more advanced civilization they would've had to assume a relativistic kill vehicle was already on the way by dark forest logic.
>>744690642Oh look, it really is just Arknights
>>744691995>I'm a faggot and I love cocksBehold, a post adaptation!
>>744692841Well yeah different mediums work in different ways, for instance you need gay sex in yours.
>>744692597Just proving my point that speed of communication has nothing to do with it.
>>744691995Sure, but just because it's not really an adaptation doesn't mean the product can't be just as good or even better than the thing it claims to have adapted.
>>744692597What if they deal with a more advanced civilization of white people instead of a chinkoid minded one?
>>744693058So nothing is an adaptation now? Are you OK?
I’m starting my Manchild Core 2.0 journey today with Shadow of the Torturer by Gene Wolfe. Supposedly it’s misogynistic* enough to upset all the feminists on Goodreads.*it depicts a world where men are mean to women sometimes
>>744682809This
>>744693152Are you? You're the one crying about how your examples are being dismissed.
>>744683465I think books should be easier to adapt in terms of casting because it's just words and the way you imagine a character is your own way, and if you don't like it it's your faultThat said I believe every Carrie adaptation had a very attractive actress play her when in the book it's a fat ugly girl, so the bullying makes a lot of sense therefore her appearance matters
>>744694063Humor me, bring an example of a good adaptation according to your retarded standards.
>>744694197The Death Note anime.
>>744695393>>744695493>american literature
Which way, anon?
>>744696370Right in the daytime, left before bed.
>>744696370Left if I'm traveling for a period of time and might want to read multiple books. Right in almost any other scenario since I just like the feeling of a book in my hand.
>>744683881>The Witcher seriesIt's not an adaptation. The story takes place after the books.
>>744696370Right is more romantic but left is just too convenient.
>>744696370Only physical. If a book is digital it isn't real and therefore sucks. How are you supposed to smell the pages if you are reading a screen You cannot.
>>744683881>some of the good Lord of the Rings gamesThe best we've had is a mod for TW Medieval 2I'm hoping Warhorse does a bang up job with their Middle Earth game
>>744696370Depends on the book. Cyberpunk should definitely be on an ereader.
>>744691643The Dark Forest theory makes sense from a Chinese perspective because their culture is rife with betrayal and murder over petty things in order to maintain or elevate their station.
>>744697180Shhhh don't try to argue, amerifags can't see through any other perspectives that aren't their usual western slopaganda (which has been corrupted by jews for a while, but that's a discussion for another thread)
>>744697349Argue? I'm not arguing. I'm clarifying. You just need even a basic understanding of Chinese culture to understand the Dark Forest is uniquely Chinese.
>>744697530Yeah i know, i was agreeing with you. I don't really think the users calling the author a chink will ever wanna try to look at this from a chinese perspective however, so you can disregard them
>>744697728NTA but it's well know as the "chink answer to the Fermi paradox". What kind of nigger is racist without a bare minimum understanding of other cultures?
>>744697861>What kind of nigger is racist without a bare minimum understanding of other cultures?Idk anon, ask like 90% of this site's userbase
>>744683061This shit read like an anime
>>744696370Speaking of ereaders I got one because I want to get back into reading. What are your favorite fantasy/sci-fi books anons?
>>744696370E readers are great for amassing a bunch of RPG books. But I will always tend towards physical media
>>744693191I think their issue is that Severian literally rapes a women at one point. That being said, she was inconsequential at the end of the day
>>744698823>literally rapes a women at one point.Isn't this after she's been hollowed out and had her bones broken into more attractive shapes as she requested?That's more or less pleasing himself with a corpse by that point.
>>744682809This.This is the most schizo book series out there.
>>744698545La Horde du Contrevent was pretty peak and it's finally getting an English translation thanks to Expedition 33.
>>744699064True but memoirs probably saw Jolenta as a victim of the patriarchy when she's really only a victim of her own poor decisions
>>744685681What? Are you dumb? You just make it a Tennis game.
>>744696370I used to read EPUBs on my phone but now I read PDFs on my desktop PC
>>744699447Ohhh man i gotta read this one. Saw an analysis about it on yt and it seems fucking crazy
I felt a little scammed by The Book of Leaves. The core horror story was pretty good but the meta commentators were both pretty undercooked and the "experimental structure" of the book was just a handful of pages with shit written sideways.
If /lit/ is so smart why don't they write books? Books are even cheaper to produce than vidya. we already know the answer
>>744699990I'm a lazy fuck.I can do very short stories fine but even a novella seems like too much, I always give up after a couple of pages when I have a bigger idea.
>>744699965I liked it a lot. But that's because I found the actual act of reading it to be novel enough for me despite the two congruent narratives being a little cliche.Can you believe that some people think Johnny Truant had a good ending. What fools.
/V/ BOOK CLUB!What are you reading right now? I just started going through the Charlie Bone series from the beginning and I expect it to be a very interesting Potterlike. Interesting coincidence that there’s a mythological figure in this universe called the Red King, huh? Wonder where I’ve heard that Seven seals, seven rings… before…
>>744682809Similar reasons to why /co/fags will never get their dream Superman or Flash game.>inb4 the PS1 game>inb4 SOTNNothing like the VHD novels.
>>744700158I like to think if the House and the Darkness as a sort of malignant wish granter so to Truant himself he's "fine" now that it's eaten his entire prior existence and don't him back out. But to an outside observer it should clearly be horrendous.
>>744682809You CAN make a game about it, but it would be just a boring walking sim/movie game, especially since the author spends so much time describing the environments in detail
>>744697861this guy gets ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxI5qQAUWVc
>>744699467Cool, I'll get to it after I read all of Mushoku Tensei
>>744700273>tranimeUmmm we're talking about real literature over here, not your gay tranny jap shit
>>744700250I've been reading the original Sherlock Holmes stories. It's been really fun so far, so very few of the early volume is actually about murders but the ones that are can get surprisingly brutal. After this though I'm really excited to crack open the copies of manly wade Wellman's John the Balladeer. Love that crazy Appalachian hoodoo bullshit
>>744700250I'm going for an easy bit of brainless sci fi and reading the fourth book of Red Rising. The first book is almost outright bad and reads like someone took each of the most popular young adult novels of the past two decades and tossed them into a blender but after that it evolves into some solid, if a bit simplistic, space opera.It reminds me that I should really get around to finishing Legend of Galactic Heroes.
>>744700250Trying to read Peter F Hamilton's Pandora's Star and not finding it very interesting. Anyone got some recs for weird scifi?
>>744700617>not knowing Yoshitaka Amano.
>>744700617Pulpbros... not like this...
>>744700273Did this guy do the artwork for some of the final fantasy games?
>>744700831Yes. Yoshitaka Amano
>>744700250i fucking hate this novel. reading it is like getting hit in the head with a bag of sand swung by a toddler repeatedly. i know that the digression is intentional and humorous in nature (and i did admittedly laugh for a while when he said he was going to write a chapter upon whiskers) but holy shit not only is it wildly dull but also somehow manages to be convoluted with zero (0) action whatsoeveri'm also reading augustus (williams) and the short stories of robert walser (both of these things are good)
>>744683061Imagine Red Dead but with furries
>>744700925Looks like edgy Redwall
>>744700831He did concept art and character designs for the first 6 games.
>>744700925Is there an index somewhere of accredited furry novels? Anyone can identify a furry comic at a single glance, but shit like Watership Down doesn’t cut it for me.
>>744683465Being eternally mad about everything must be suffering.
>>744700994The good ones. Good for him. Very unique style.
>>744682809There are none, every story can be told in every format. The ability to transfer it over properly and get the people to feel what you want is a skill. One that most can't appreciate and more can't enjoy fully.
>>744700250Still the same thing as last thread.
>>744696370I like to doodle in my books, but I'd probably still get a kindle if I read a bunch.
>>744700250This.I finished the vol3 and I'm going for the next one
>>744697180>>744697530>their culture is rife with betrayal and murder over petty things in order to maintain or elevate their station.Right. And then, historically the people who've subscribed to that mindset get trounced by the groups who band together.It's a pessimistic and tunnel-visioned perspective that appeals to people who feel stuck within a system that can never be rivaled or reformed, ironically encouraged by a party (allied group) that... rivaled and reformed the prior system.I understand the Chinese-ness of it, I'm just saying that it's objectively wrong.>>744697349I don't know Chinese but I do know a few characters. Have some: 不頭思.
>>744685336What? Apple making shows? Are we finally reaching true late stage capitalism where megacorps just do everything and devour every tiny company two seconds after it's born?
>>744700158As a side, now that I'm done with the book, I should fill in my own handwriting in the empty spaces or the extra margins and then ditch it in the local library, but I would have to think of a way to characterize and give a theme to it. Also practice my handwriting.
>>744700250I needed a break because the last dozen or more books I've read have been sci-fi. I haven't read any crime/thriller in about 15 years
>>744700987Redwall is the go to comparison for this novel, so you're right>>744701007I've also been looking for that well. But sadly, anthros aren't as popular in literature as in gaming/comics/animations outside of children's stuff, which isn't really a bad thing, but it would've been nice to read something more aimed for older audience that isn't smut
>>744687271>What do you mean anon? All the retards of the genre think cyberpunk is all about litter and narrow streets and the trailer gives you that in the first 20 seconds. After that its all jacking in the matrix and le bad elites.He's probably one of those "neon and synthwave" idiots.
>>744682809Vidya is actually a fairly flexible medium. Even more experimental works and narrative structures can be adapted significantly more effectively by it by virtue of the fact that the POV is dumped directly into the world. Ironically, the types of stories video games would struggle to adapt would be straightforward and simple narratives where most of the value is in prose and tight characterization. You couldn't adapt a Hemingway book into a video game because the whole point of Hemingway is that there is no frills to it. Something like the Old Man and the Sea wouldn't really work because the player is forced to share a POV with a character that already has an idiosyncratic POV that the player might not fully relate to and the prose intentionally avoids overly descriptive language so building out a world for it necessarily detracts from the style of the book. But vidya would be good for adapting infamously difficult to adapt books like Dune or Infinite Jest. I would like to see an Inherent Vice video game personally purely because it's the last book I actually read start to finish.
>>744701443Apple have their own subscription service for shows and movies like Amazon do, so what they're doing isn't really something new
>>744683646Do Metro games count?
>>744701530>cyberpunk is all cyberpunk and no punk, actually
>>744701506Animal stand ins are sort of seen as inherently childish. Realy if you're going for more adult fiction what's really the purpose of using animal characters?
>>744688221Neal Stephenson's books are pretty much ground zero for Silicon Valley techbros. >Just realized he made a Kickstarter to make a game (that failed) with a Gaben cameo in his pledge video
>>744701915>Realy if you're going for more adult fiction what's really the purpose of using animal characters?Stylistic choiceBonus points if you manage to incorporate certain animal traits into the charactersNight In The Woods is more geared to older audience, but making the characters makes them easier to get attached to (i know it's not a book but just an example)
>>744700273tried reading this shit but it's just monster of the week tranime slop with OP protagonist japs can't write.
>>744682809Another garbage lit book thread on /v/Mushoku tensei mogs all of your woke western goyslop books
>>744702548**making the characters animals makes them easier to get attached to
>>744702109I read Snow Crash for the first time last year after years of hype, it being considered one of the great American novels, it being beloved on 4chan, it being beloved by people who hate 4chan - I had to try it. And? You know what? It’s overrated. The best part of it is the games (and one nerdcore rapper) it inspired. It also had some nostalgic unlock value for me, because reading it led me to realize that several of the characters in my favorite childhood book series, Spy Gear Adventures, were direct lifts from Snow Crash. I would definitely appreciate a recommendation for a novel that is *like* Snow Crash but better.
>>744690068He's right. Death's End the Third book undoes everything the first two establish and shows that planets are the least safest places in space, and just cruising around in a space ship makes you invincible. The entire invasion was a waste of time and resources and the Fleets evolve into civilizations..The planets are sitting ducks.Death's End is fun but it's really bad.
>>744702832>Mushoku tensei mogs all of your woke western goyslop booksweebs are so insecure
>>744703671qrd?
>>744701476This one is good but holy God Harris is awful whenever he focuses on Lecter himself. He's such a cringy faggot. Every attempt to make him seem suave or intelligent falls so flat for me. Once he's clear of the Will and Dolarhyde dynamic he's awful. Only Red Dragon is actually good. I do not understand the love for Silence of the Lambs at all.
>>744682809Beren and Lúthien. >>744690235>AK slopno
>>744703671is he okay?
>>744682809Knight RunKubera
three body problem 1 was kinosequel was cold war drama downgradethird book had way too many ideas crammed into itwhole series is about women fucking up so that's pretty based
/v/ likes this book, right? I think I’ve seen it here a few times.
>Have an intelligent, nanoscopic AI probe that can travel at incredible speeds to spy on whoever you want.>Shapeshift it into a katana-wielding chinawoman to act as your representative during your hostile takeover.I'm thinking the Trisolarans are pretty based.
>>744704661is that about the twink paul atreides?i gave up on it not even halfway, the protag was such a bitch
>>744704661Theyre appropriately short. I can't stand tomes upon tomes of fantasy. If I see that shit I check out. You can read and reread all 4 in a week to a month if you have the time.
>>744703725>>744704272Just an accidentally scratch.He should be fine after a good rest.The IKEA prices are mind blasting after all.
How does anyone have the patience to read books when video games exist
>>744700250I have Penguin's Lord Dunsany collection lined up for afterwards.
>>744698823She wasn't inconsequential at all. You didn't understand the novel even a little if you think that.
>>744704491I can't remember what exactly prompted the first chick to even contact the aliens? She was pissy about the fact her dad was killed 10 years before or something
>>744705943aye, her father was killed and she wanted revengeseething foid dooming the human race
>>744683646I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
The Culture series.There are some very thin slices you could adapt into a gaem but on the whole the best you can hope for is being referenced in something like Stellaris.
>>744702765No. It has an amazing Fallen Earth/Weird Tales world and it's so over the top while being very mysterious.One of the most amazing things is that being a normal human farmer is kind of exactly the same, but instead of shooting varmints with a .22 to protect your crops and livestock, you're firing atomic heat rays at mist monsters. It's more fun than something like WH40K because it's consistent and still very human.
this was surprisingly good
>>744706607I read the first Twilight novel back when it was new and I remember really enjoying it, but I couldn’t tell you a single thing about the sequence of events or anything beyond it introducing me to the word “impasse”.
>>744693191A /lit/ anon actually spent hours absently looking at his computer screen while trying to consider what books he should and shouldn't include in the making of this image and then wondered why his board is dead.
>>744706607That's just Dispatch
i sometimes write very bad porn fanfics
>>744706949I'm sure you'll one day write average smut
Kinda weird nothing oficial has come out of it
>>744707161Literally just had a shitty 3D cartoon for China announced like three days ago.
>>744707161step the fuck up
>>744707241>>744707161Bring it on Niggers
>>744707346>fetish books
>>744707161>>744707241>>744707346I guess we're doing this
>>744696370Left because I'm a cheap ass and almost don't buy anything>>744700250Nearest novels were Karla's Choice, Brookmyre's jasmine sharp books, zauberberg. Also Freeze frame revolution and Ligotti's My work is not yet done.But I recently realized the only new books I've been reading for a while have been nonfiction on things like sleep, interoception, writing, trauma and capital C Coping. Unless you count moon translations of books I like for practice in which case tinker tailor, debout les morts, pattern recognition. In rereading I still really like Vargas and Blue ant Gibson.
>>744707465>the book that inspired the new york times bestseller
>>744701443Apple TV has been a thing for years at this point. But also yes.
>>744692980Wrong. 1. Spacetime is not fundamental but emergent. 2. Spacetime can be distorted.3. Sophons distort spacetime while traveling to create a communication channel.4. Speed of light is not broken when using the communication channel, it just propagates in distorted spacetime.
>>744683338Video games are defined as an interactive entertainment. VN is interactive and hence video games.Video games are also art.
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>>744703671that's one of the best ways to leave this shit hole of a world
Me.My gf.Tyrone.What problem?
Every book can be adapted into a typing tutor game
>>744699447Some books in the sequence are the most autistic boring shit I've ever read. But the main entries, especially toward the end, are so completely outrageously off the wall that it more than makes up for it.
>>744701443They've been making shows for a few years now. The Godzilla shows with the chick from Shogun is on Apple TV.
>>744685508>>744686992>>744688221Philip K Dick predicted VR Chat in 1965Also whatever you call the game system premise that Sword Art Online plot uses
>>744682809>cookie clickerWOWWWWWWWW
>>744700250I've been reading Flashman books. They are amazing. I highly recommend if you like history and historical fiction. Very well researched and accurate with lots of famous figures and events popping up
>>744685353the game was developed by space aliens dude
>>744687117Wow racist incel much
>>744709050VNs like umineko are just glorified ebooks with a dvd menu attached. Not every VN is as interactive as the other.
Seriously though what does Ai AA look like? I keep imagining her as some anime girl with red twintails
>when you try to adapt a book:
>>744696370I thought e-readers were a meme, but I recently bought a Kobo Clara color and I've been enjoying using itThe idea of having a small device that can fit hundreds of books is incredible. I know I can do the same with my phone, but I like having a dedicated reading device, plus e-inkDon't think I can get back to physical books, being able to highlight and add notes without making a mess is too convenient. Not to mention i like free stuff>>744700250Been reading this
>>744708952nta, but the sophon communications comes from the very common misunderstanding of quantum entanglement. Back then people believed the phenomenon would be observed no matter how far apart, and that digital flipping could be performed repeatedly, and thus, you could send morse code and ones and zeros.
>>744696370e-reader because I don't like the idea of purchasing entertainment, much less having to store it somewhere
>>744709806echoes of the eye
Fact: This would make a fuckin' baller Deus Ex type detective series. And at least one game has borrowed a lot from it already.
>>744683061
>>744684846imagine being so irony-poisoned that you can't enjoy anything in earnest anymore. i genuinely feel bad for people like you
>>744682809literally anything where one guy with a gun or sword can't possibly make a difference which is a lot of sci-fi and even fantasy.>but what if protag is the chosen one destined to vanquish the ancient evil
>>744710479What a shame. TDS and Disney buying star wars drove him to psychosis
>>744710703Wait really? I remember his star wars books being gud.
>>744710042There's definitely an inspiration there, but Echoes of the Eye goes right on ahead and makes all the inhabitants dead, the craft decaying and their entire culture and civilization one massive cope on why they destroyed everything to pursue some shitty signal.
>>744696370Horror manga is a pretty fun experience on Kindle. I read through PTSD Radio and the negative page transition is a sick effect.
>>744706567>mfw vampires fought the aliens from space and their downfall is linked to extending themselves too much
>>744707465buh, redwall games exist
>>744711429For me it was the throw away line that vampire tech made it so they had complete perfect control of the weather worldwide.But because the vampires get bored storms, blizzards, earthquakes and other natural disasters still happen and really weather is pretty much random due to their whims
The more I write of my own book, the more I had my writing.
>>744682809ayo hol upthe story is about ayy lmaos sending super computers the size of protons (lol?) back in time so humans cant make wormholes? this is china's magnum opus?
>>744711569*hate
>>744700273I'm actually shocked how many D novels are translated. Hell, even some spin-offs.
>>744711612>super computers the size of protons >(lol?)as if that isn't some of the coolest shit in the book
>>744711612But is that better or worse than the American western opus of "Aragorn no talk about taxes"?
>>744711569>>744711614many, MANY such casesput it down for a whilecome back to it when it's no longer fresh in your mindyou'll be a better judge of it then or just hate it even more like in my casethen again that can spur you to do full rewrites that are infinitely better
>>744711569Good news, you always unless you can stop looking at your favorites / the greats as your yardstick and start looking at them as inspiration and values such that they can them arise in your own work.
>>744682809could've sworn i watched a youtube short with this exact concept years ago
>>744706567I'm not even sure what exactly the setting should be called Like Christianity no longer exists and all humans have forgotten about Christ but crucifixes and holy still work against vampires.So much fantasy tries to make it so the divine or dieties or gods get their power through faith but this is the exact opposite where divine aspects continue to work with no people believing it.And it doesn't try to make the magic or holy stuff actually science either like that dumb Castlevania Netflix. It straight up is holy magic from a religion nobody follows anymore.
>>744696370I don't get ereaders and I have a mostly digital game collection.
>>744711720well... yes!
>>744709390Actually Plato did it first.
>>744711656now look up guin saga, japan's biggest fantasy series, and weep
>>744696370e-readers by far. it got me reading exponentially more if only due to convenience. people REALLY overthink what to buy, though. kindle is perfectly fine for 95% of readers out there.
>>744693191do NOT read the second apocalypse >>744698823i find it funny that in the new Urth Severian muses on this bit
>>744691551Niven and Pournelle are both incredibly underrated. I've been reading through a bunch of their books and im having a blast. Mote is definitely in the top tier. I also really enjoyed Footfall and Ringworld.
>>744712934Speaking of Ringworld, I would fucking kill for an open world Ringworld game. I guess Halo Infinite is the closest we're probably going to get.
>>744712929>do NOT read the second apocalypseW-why not? Don't spoil me too hard please I'm about to start Aspect-Emperor 2. Is it because the series is likely to remain unfinished?
>>744682809Dark Forest Theory = "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war."This shit is just warhammer for pseudo intellectuals
>>744713318there are a old ones
>>744712934Mote is really good. While I don't care much for the narrative, the world building and the exploration of sci-fi concepts are very fascinating. Integral Trees is another of my favs. I've been trawling used book stores trying to find the sequel Smoke Ring. I could always just buy it online, but I like the excuse to browse the shops.
Who would you main?
>>744713462it is simply not worth the investment, certainly not for me but it might be for youthe first book is fantastic and you can see it took Bakker a long time to write out, but everything else wellanyway you'll see
>>744713542and it's also fucking stupid and like other anons said bug-brained. if it were true, Earth's own ecosystem would be nothing but species vying for themselves, because most of the same rules apply. instead, what you see is mutualism, symbiosis and parasitism in addition to antagonism. which means that yes, there will be alien species that actively hate you and want to kill you for being different, but also that there will be species that are ambivalent, want to get along with for mutual support or that want to leech off of you because they're weaker. there's no rational reason to assume that everyone is automatically hostile, only an irrational china-brained one.
>>744713746It would be different because on Earth all organisms share the same living space and influence each other to some degree, an extra-solar species would be utterly alien and disconnected on every level
Notice how China hasn't released a book like Three Body Problem ever since Xi Jinping came to power. Every single science fiction story coming out from China these days are just the safe and disneyfied iteration of this book (Arknights, Girls Frontline, Honkai, etc.). That or the absolute trash that is silkpunk.
>>744713746There's a part where a couple of space ships leave the solar systems and the first thing they do is try to eradicate every other ship in the fleetIt really is peak china
I really really wish we had a Discworld RPG set in Ankh Morpork.
>>744713792>utterly alien and disconnected on every levelexcept they share the same universe and the same physics. thus far, we have no reason to assume that other natural biological processes are inherently superior. water is everywhere, so is carbon and a bunch of additional elements, so organic chemistry is king when otherwise you have to depend on bullshit like arsenic or NaK. but even that would make aliens only physiologically different; all the same game theory and emergent processes of evolution and competition apply to all life. ie if it arose naturally, it's going to act naturally like we do. the only truly alien life that we could not assume works on the same competitive-cooperative rules as we do is something truly alien and not entirely alive, like a Boltzman brain, or a constructed artificial life with someone else's motives.even in something like Blindsight, the aliens there work on those same processes. Earth simply got the bad draw of the cards and got Space Ants that view higher culture and communication as an active attack. the problem lay in the fact that they are eusocially hierarchical unlike human herd behavior which still leaves space for individuals. they are not alien, they're just ants that grew up to engulf entire solar systems.
>>744709050if there is interactivity in a VN, then there is some other genre mixed in
>>744714092>Earth simply got the bad draw of the cardshence why it's optimal to stay hidden and blow up any alien species as soon as you get the chance. It's just a theory anyway
>>744683465add chainsaw man, people both in the west and japan were so assmad about s1 that the director got fired and replaced
>>744711501https://store.steampowered.com/app/2169570/The_Lost_Legends_of_Redwall_The_Scout_Anthology/Huh, wasn't aware of themNeat
>>744683465Why is Jojo there?
>>744698823It's so small minded if people are turned off these books because of this. The whole point is that Severian is not a very good person to begin with, that's why his character arc has meaning. I guess some people can't help but conflate the author's views with their characters' views, but Wolfe deserves more credit than that
>>744687821>I would love an Eschaton video game
recommend me a book with an autistic convoluted power system RIGHT NOW
>>744714191>hence why it's optimal to stay hidden and blow up any alien species as soon as you get the chance.the first part's right. the right course of action is observant vigilance. to shut the fuck up, watch and wait until you're strong enough as a civilization that you might be able to push away a potential invading force of a reasonable size. then you can do whatever you want. too early, you may risk annihilation, but unlike in Le Dark Forest, it's not an absolute 100%. it's a probability between 1%-99%, and when failing that roll of the die is "you potentially get your entire species annihilated", that's not a good chance to take. it's like the Star Trek Prime Directive from the other end. you don't *know* if the space ship coming to check you out has only noble intent, so you should play it safe.and unlike in slop sci-fi, in real life there's no FTL to jump you with your pants down. everyone can see everything if you've got eyes big enough, and while there definitely are ways to hide, once you get to the Kardashev 2 and higher level it becomes increasingly harder to hide activity. there's multiple heat signatures we know of right now in galaxies hundreds of parsecs away that could potentially be the result of a Dyson swarm, we just don't know enough about either natural star formation and lifecycle or Dyson swarms that we can't be sure.
Luo Ni
>>744707346>>744707465>>744707241A WoF RTS would be kino, yay or nay?
>>744683646Wheel of Time Call of Cthulhu DCOTEClive Barkers Undying kind of
>>744713649Integral Trees is great too. Check out a World Out of Time if you haven't. It's a prequel (sort of) that goes to some really weird places.
>>744714560in game theory what matters is payoff non probability, assuming the expected value of humanity being annihilated is -infinity then a probability of 100% or 50% makes no difference
>>744682809>ungamifiable>an online game is a key part of the story
>>744714682yes, but infinite values break all game theory no matter where you put them and it's not how either rational or irrational players play, just like you can't value a single human life as infinitely valuable even though you are one and you would very much like not to die. the value is very high, but not so high that you can't ever under any circumstance emerge from your hidey hole.
>>744683646Jurassic Park, as an IP, has produced some good games.
>>744682809Any book can be. You can just put the same exact text as the book with music and voice acting when there's dialog. If you don't think it can be, just read babby's first VN: Saya no Uta. And you'll see that any book can be a VN.
Qud is pretty damn similar to BotnSDominions is the best Malazan adaptation Second Apocalypse is just edgier Rance
>>744714761and how do you know when to emerge? You can have a giant fleet that destroys planets in seconds but if aliens have something like the droplets you're still fucked, you just can't know
>>744714810House of Leaves?
>>744713806>silkpunkthis actually sounds interesting
>>744714919If anything can be printed on a page, it can be rendered on a digital screen, right?
>>744714902when it's reasonable to do so. the peak of real-life destructive capability is something like a Nicoll-Dyson beam. if you can reasonably defend against that, it's probably fine to emerge. even if some species learns how to harness and weaponize black holes, microscopic or not, and gravitics (not to be confused with anti-gravity; tl;dr using mass the way one uses electrons in circuits to create gravitational wave impulses) it's not like you can't avoid most anything by spreading out wide and far very quickly. going loud the moment you can put a generational ship around every star system probably wouldn't be a bad idea if all you care about is species survival.
>>744714919Subarashiki Hibi utilizes some weird formatting
>>744696370>google "bookname epub">click on a VK link>download>start readingit's just too ez
>>744683465Monster is the only story with a decent ending Urasawa has managed to write. He has the typical japanese writer problem of coming up with really intriguing concepts and story hooks and then shitting the bed at the end.
>>744715314It's sometimes a little harder to Epub Free Download, like with Sled Driver, which I also want a game centered around piloting an SR-71, but the more time passes the more books end up online. So much so that some faggots officially don't publish digital versions of books and only publish physically now.
>>744696370If only available in mass market paperback or shitty low quality hardcover, or is just slop, then epub uploaded to Google Play Books and I'll just read it in the app (has nice progress sync, bookmarking, highlighting).Otherwise, if it's available in a nice hardcover, especially if it has smyth sewn binding and thick acid free paper, then I will spend the $30-40 to buy the hardcover.
>go to supermarket>check book isle out of curiosity>all femoid smut garbage in the openwtf happened
>>744715527its literally always been this way, I'm 33 years old and I remember wondering why there was smut in the grocery store checkout aisle when I was a young child. Womens books have always been smut.
I have worldbuilding fatigue and so should you.
>>744700250After Darkits good and i dont understand why they panned it but Windup Bird Chronicle is still my favorite long Murakami book
>>744715020It genuinely is just Wuxiaslop in a different skin.
>>744699447It's funny that this exploration of the limits of known physics ended up becoming the ultimate example of powerscaling slop.I think it sort of is gamifiable though. It'd be an RTS, but instead of clicking on guys with swords to make them storm castles, you're ordering fleets of billions to accelerate stars to 99.99% of lightspeed and crash them into dyson spheres or whatever
>>744683465Why would anyone want hyperion adaptation? The book was 700 pages long in the edition I read in my native language. There's no way to adapt it in any meaningful way on sane budget and length. You would need to make 7 movies for every traveler or try to squeeze it into 3 movies like peter jackson did with lotr but it made the movies 3h+ each.Last book adaptation was Solaris adaptation by that russian director that made Stalker. I forgot his name. The movie only conveyed half of the information you could find in the book which focused on personal experience while omitting the science world reaction to the planet. I'm not saying it's bad, but as far books go you have to account for the length of material and relatively short format of audiovisual media. Especially for quite big book like Hyperion.
>>744682809Just wanted to say this fucking book SUCKS DICKStupid chink couldn’t write a single memorable thing about a single character if you can even call them that. His bugman brain was incapable of writing one character to have any human traits, but everyone sucks this book off because my scientific accuracy when all it took was reading a wiki page about the n-body problemWhat a piece of shit
>>744718152most overwhelmingly pop-culture popular books like that are guaranteed to be dogshit, what did you expect. the normie doesn't care about quality, the normie cares only about what other normies are reading.
>>744718152Hard science sci-fi necessarily appeals to midwits or laymen, because anybody who isn't, will read it and feel like they're being patronized.
>>744718152woman detected
Any high powerlevels xianxia, those can't be done.
>>744718543cultivation games exist
I reached the point where humanity gets resettled to Australia and the retard foid is mooching off of a aboriginal grandpaI don't even cheer for them anymore at this point, gay ass planet
>>744683465I really, really want 40k adaptions to not be dogshit. Gaunts Ghosts with a bit of injected realism (just look at combat footage of ukraine) would actually hit the mark.
>>744704661Not really. I read them because "big classic everyone say are masterpiece of double meanings and how the main character LIES and stuff".Pretty disappointed. It's just a series in the Dying Earth genre, verging on SF later on. The world isn't particularly nice or imaginative, it's basically textbook Dying Earth. The story and the characters aren't particularly deep, it's just Dying Earth. And the "narration lying" elements are extremely overrated.I mean, it's not bad, I guess. It's just a bit formulaic.
>>744713983>>744713792Why are they like this? I don't understandEvery living thing has built in feeling and sympathy for not just blood relatives but any thing visibly in distress if it's not under duress. What are they missing?
>>744722323>Every living thing has built in feeling and sympathyPlants don't
>>744722323low deterrence energy emanating from this post
>>744691015>2. If things continue like this, there will eventually reach a point where the entire universe will be so crammed with life that there will be no matter enough for everyoneThat's hardly realistic though, because things become more efficient as you advance. Humans can't even run out of space living in the handful locations they like on Earth, much less the whole universe lol.The first book wasn't terribad, but it gets extremely Chinese later.
>>744683646Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (Blade Runner p&c adventure game)
>>744682809I hate Chinese media, they're all an incoherent mishmash of preexisting ideas
>>744722646it really isn't unrealistic. consider: the universe is a couple of billions of years old, doesn't matter how many. life has existed for a smaller couple of billions of years on this planet. complex multicellular life has existed for hundreds of millions of years. once it got to a form where it could make tools and form civilizations it went off like a rocket, going from a minor great ape to a world-spanning species that dominates every ecosystem within at absolute most a hundred thousand years. if that trend holds on interstellar expansion, and it's a big assumption, the rest of a galaxy could be colonized at an almost exponential speed, only barring the limits of light speed. even if it takes a whole million years to fully colonize a galaxy, that's absolute peanuts within the timespan of billions, much less the trillions of years expected to last within the usable lifespan of the universe. that's the whole reason the Drake equation even exists, because it means we're either the first or something prevents other species from spreading like wildfire, because why wouldn't you colonize everything you possibly can?there's no practical limit to how many humans can exist at once outside of the amount of matter in the universe. it's pertinent to assume that there aren't really any limiters to growth below that.
>>744682809I was just playing Terra Invicta.
>>744722323Their only contact with the outside world before modernity was being invaded. This is why the Japanese, despite still being a little buglike, are better.
>>744723895is Terra Invicta based on anything? I assume not but it could be, the various factions are very well characterized
>>744702109He was writing for a crypto-based game recently. It was actually decent. I don't think you can play it now.
>>744723886Yeah, but this is 17th century iteration or whenever it was that Malthus was alive. You don't run out of resources because tech makes greater use of them. And that's just the first order effects. Add to that that civilizations can get genuinely bored of breeding like bunnies and instead spend all their time on social media gathering likes, etc. The premise only really holds if you accept a handful of pretty old ideas and then don't think too hard about it. IMHO.
>>744701915There's just a certain appeal.
>>744682809Ready Player 1
>>744707454If you're a bloodlust kind of guy, sure.
>>744713746The dark forest doesn't really work out because it'd be more efficient to integrate other societies than to destroy them outright. The entire premise hinges on the idea that sapient species will put their own species ahead of all other species even though it is only logical on an evolutionary premise and not a sapient premise. Why would an advanced alien species hate our species when what distinguishes us is the evolutionary makeup, even though we still think and feel too? If such an advanced society has the technology to blow up other planets and star systems would it not have the time and technology to have effectively solved discrimination where integration in such a society would be easy? The implication of aliens that have such advanced technologies but still have such outdated views and culture that doesn't match their technological prowess would be akin to monkeys with nukes, and that's more terrifying.
>>744711501Nothing counts until I get my Redwall Musou.
>>744724804>Why would an advanced alien species hate our species when what distinguishes us is the evolutionary makeup, even though we still think and feel too? If such an advanced society has the technology to blow up other planets and star systems would it not have the time and technology to have effectively solved discrimination where integration in such a society would be easy?idk bro what happened to the aztecs and mayas?
>>744701915normal words but a horse guy
>>744724873Not even close to what I'm talking about, unless the colonists were already an interstellar empire with sci-fi tech.
>>744724705And they FUCKED IT UP!Fucking retards, and alpaca deserved to suffer.
>>744724804You're making the mistaken assumption that integration is efficient or something to be desired when history has shown time and time again that ethnic conflict is as inevitable as china imploding.
>>744722323Geography.Large population on a geography that has no natural borders (basically, it's all plains and rivers) means China frequently united when a conqueror was good enough, then broke down under its own vastness, then was united again through force, then broke down under its own vastness, etc.There are a reason that China has a tremendous amount of civil war, often monstrously costly.Europe has the opposite problem: the geography forces heterogeneity over a very small amount of land. You can literally take a two day trip, goes through a mountain, and the nation, culture, language, and philosophy is different. China has homogeneity through a land that is often so vast it's ungovernable.This means the value of human life in China is extremely low, unfortunately, and the government often extreme.
>>744709743Umineko is a sound/kinetic novel, not a visual novel.
>>744724804>The entire premise hinges on the idea that sapient species will put their own species ahead of all other species even though it is only logical on an evolutionary premise and not a sapient premise.And the kicker is that the entire series is premised on some chick being so sick of the CCP's shit that she sells out humanity. From jump, Dark Forest is discredited. The tragedy of TBP is that if humanity and the Trisolarians (and the other civs) had found a way to coexist, they could have drawn out a generally happy and prosperous existence for quite a while.The subtext is subversive of the current CCP's policy to some extent, hence >>744713806.
>>744724873If you actually want to know: their leadership got duped by a handful of Spanish bandits, murdered and their subjects intermarried with the other Spanish. The Spanish crown actually recognized a number of contracts made by Cortez and wherever was the name of the guy who found the Inca, and ruled in the favor of the natives, because law >>>>>>>> "gotta help out my fellow chinks". The king was also legit pissed that the Inca monarch was murdered, again, because that's not okay. That's Spain centuries ago, not some futuristic civ with holographic dildos.
>>744725294I wonder how advanced China would be today if they didn't spawn next to the Mongols and various nomadic raiders
>>744725041I dunno, I got what I wanted.I'm confused about what you didn't like, please explain.
My main gripe is that it makes no sense why the trisolarans never sent a probe to earth before the transmission, considering it's the closest planet
>>744725690Better yet, imagine hot advanced China would be if it wasn't full of Chinese people.
>>744725880Yeah imagine if it was full of Africans instead
>>744725945The same but with bigger penises?
>>744725678>and wherever was the name of the guy who found the IncaPizarro, and he was fit for such a name
>>744682809The Great Gatsby
>>744723923Japanese ~*idiosyncrasies*~ make for a better (or at least more resilient and orderly) society but a more volatile individual existence. In China, things are good when you're rich and suck when you're poor. In Japan, you could be rich and still be subject to ridiculous cultural norms that make life hell. (I think this is also part of why they don't put a lot of stake in attaining wealth vs stability.)
The Chinese 3BP fandom is ultra chuddy apparently, I wish I knew more about it
>>744682809>>744690235Endwalker basically ripped this off but did a much worse job
>>744718235I listened to this steaming pile of shit after eye surgery, when I literally couldn’t do anything else. Halfway through, I was ready to perform DIY ear surgery just so I’d never have to hear another word of this unbearable garbage. TBP is a fucking 11/10 masterpiece compared to this absolute fucking disaster.
the primary problem between the races is resources are limited
>>744725170That's the thing, there's no real life analogue for it, people often this assumption that what will happen in the future has already happened even though technology has been a consistent re-definer of trends. "Oh kids these days, they spend all their time browsing the internet, but I did the same with TV and my ancestors did the same with books so it's literally exactly the same" but it's not the same, things are different, the TV didn't allow real-time communication with other people, books weren't a cacophony of visuals and audio, it's all sorts of new paradigms, new frameworks, new possibilities, new problems, the only thing I'm certain of is that this re-defining will happen at least for a long time, and if an alien race gets so far to the point they could exert power under the dark forest theory then they almost certainly must have figured out solutions to things that are still considered problems to us and they must have changed themselves greatly to wield such power ideally, otherwise they would have probably destroyed themselves with it.We depict aliens that do real world analogues like colonialism and slavery and exploitation and subjugation, it's what humanity did and what we expect other aliens to do in the future, but we rarely depict aliens that have gone through hell and back to survive their own power, nor how such things just wouldn't be a problem for them anymore. Why enslave when you can build machines? Why exploit when there are so many resources in the galaxy? Why destroy when they could join you?
evey time i see this title i think of that video of those three chinese guys getting into a car accident
>>744726289There must be hundreds such videos.
>YOU'RE BUGSwoah there Raimi
Since you are all here already, what are some interesting Indian books that would translate well into vidya? And I mean 'video games', not the nth 15 year old raped to death.
>>744726537Mahabharata could work I suppose.
>>744726537Uuuuh life of pi and uuuuuh
>>744714292Which is weird, it was much better than the manga, and this is validated by the shitshow ending of the manga
Last book I read was Harry Potter 5 like 25 years ago, it was so fucking shit it killed all motivation to keep reading and I played vidya instead. Nowadays I'm just too ADHD to read any kind of book and I feel like I missed out.
>>744726685just try and read fast paced things
>>744726685Have you tried reading the 60 Shades of Green?
>>744724838>Tried to generate a video off this>Sloppy slopI don't understand why Gemini is so bad, especially with fake video game clips. Isn't like half the training data video game footage? And yet, without fail, instead of looking like actual gameplay, it looks like a braindead mobile game ad.
>>744682809How's the TV show?It keeps being recommended on my homescreen, but I still haven't watched it.The Three-Body Problem I mean
body found floating by the docks
>>744688485>Instead the Trisolarians decide on some convoluted plan that involves higher dimensional tech all that dosen't even succeed anyways.Actually trisolarians solution was to just genocide some other morons for their solar system
>>744683207Man, I've only read the first book but that's what I was thinking the entire time. It would really fit as a setting for an old school point and click adventure as long as they cranked up the weird or surreal features, along with time travel segments back to the cultural revolution/past events, etc., and also LOTS of bullshit goofy ways to get killed.
>>744683012>visual NOVEL>video GAME
>>744682809This is trivial though. A rogue-like civilization builder, where you need to gtfo before being folded.
Dr. Miao I'm Big Shi
>>744713983>>744713792>>744722323Come on now, that's one of the best scenes in the book, the battle of darkness just illustrates that the kindness and teamwork of humanity is just destroyed when facing the vastness of the universe and you would become exactly as your alien enemies
>>744713662Luo ji is my man
>>744727712But only if you're Chinese.
>um yeah I never pulled my own weight in a group project and I'd sooner die than let my neighbour borrow my laptop and I hate my hecking subhuman boss and coworkers and yeah my pitbull mauled my child despite my years of love and yeah I wouldn't even spare a glance for a beggar but if we all just put our hands together we can coexist with creatures that share literally nothing with usvirtue signaling should be a clinically acknowledged mental illness
>>744727972It should be renamed to low deterrence syndrome
>>744715396Seriously why is this? I feel like it’s rather easy to figure out the start and end of a story and it’s bridging point A to point B without being boring and unfulfilling that’s the hard part. But there’s so many times where Jap writers are like “uhh well it’s over I guess” like they never thought the story they were writing would eventually end
>>744727972You can tolerate the existence of people you don't like instead of deciding to preemptively kill them all you know.
>>744727838Ult: mundicide
>>744728246You can, but will they?
>>744727972The arc of civilization is long but it bends towards trade.
>>744728676I'd say there's a good chance of it yes. I'm not saying we all need to be best buds living together right away but deciding to just not genocide each other on sight doesn't seem like much of an ask.
>>744728938wrong + cope + foid + YWNBARSH
>>744696370I prefer reading on my phone. I don't know what kind of condition is this, but it's easier for me to read the text if it's very narrow. I actually had trouble reading paper books my entire life, but when I began reading from a small screen, it was a life changer.
>>744729583I used to read on my phone and didn't realize how shit it actually is until I switched to a e-reader. Treat your eyes well anon
>>744724804It's an allegory to the CCP
>>744700250Really got into Larry Niven recently, started reading Ringworld, will probably try Rama series next. I love worldbuilding in his books, though Integral Trees is still my favorite. I really want a game in Smoke Ring-like setting, with orbital mechanics, zero-g combat and low-tech crafting.>>744713649Oh fuck you for stealing the file I wanted to post. Anyway, Larry Niven began writing a third book in the series apparently, but ended up writing only a single chapter or so. At least it revealed that technology moved forward in the setting (they invented internal combustion engines in addition to steam rockets) and trees themselves were retconned to be packed with dirt on the inside instead of being completely made of wood.
Saw a human femboy with a 1-dimensional trisolaran bvll today, the Planetary Defense Council has fallen
>>744729180>PLEASE join me in my nihilism I nEED everyone else to feel as hopeless and cynical about the state and nature of the universe I"M BEGGING YOU tell me that reality itself is suicidal i need to not feel alone in my belief that everyone wants to be alone foreverNo. Sapients want to be happy.
>>744724804You have to remember that in the book, the universe is already in the middle of an all-out war on a scale so vast that smaller civilizations can barely notice it.
>>744725863Maybe they had, but not at light speed.
>>744730807In order to work your assumption needs everyone to be an optimist like youmine only needs a single civilization to be nihilistic (or realist or whatever)
>>744709390>Also whatever you call the game system premise that Sword Art Online plot usesCardinal?
>>744730968No, my assumption is an observation of how life as an ecosystem actually works in the one place we know it to exist. Either you extrapolate from that or you're making up something else entirely. Which is what >mine only needs a single civilization to be nihilistic (or realist or whatever)And then I counter with, "Your single civilization needs to exist in a vast cosmos where no other civilizations gang up on it." The probability of that isn't zero, but it's not very high, either.
>>744714007I'd say it would work better for an open-world game, akin to Assassin's Creed or Yakuza. Some kind of plot about Discworld's first undercover cop infiltrating a street gang and uncovering some huge conspiracy while parodying various game genres. And instead of Database in AC series, you get Footnotes putting some humorous context to various events, locations and personalities.
This man walks up, slaps your alien girlfriend's ass and says that every sentient alien will be human-like, communist and sexy due to parallel evolution. What do you do?
>>744682809>Stellaris, but with a lot less resources.
>>744732070I agree with him and slap her ass myself.We've encountered no alien life, so clearly they all starved to death as communists typically do.
>>744732178China seems to be eating well enough.
