this game is fuckin' awesomewhy do I only get trade points with corps after some successful missions? does it depend on mission type?any other bro tips I need to know?
>go in as francis>face an army on the first floor>die before ever leaving the fucking shuttle area>go in as percy>2 floors out of the 3 it previously was>1st floor was empty>2nd floor only has one guy who immediately surrendedDon't get me wrong, this fag and his fucking guard had over 100 health, but what the fuck?
oh baby
>>744683643I think I hit some midgame wall, one bad encounter with two guys with gun killed 2 of my agents two missions in a row
>>744684440>/wrong photothat was the"what the fuck"onelike, does it make it produce quasi shit?
>>744683643>why do I only get trade points with corps after some successful missions? does it depend on mission type?Companies will try to pay you in items, anything they can't cover in items you get in credit.
>Defend Grasshopper against an onslaught of demon fucks>They reward me with basic shit and some canned foodFuck you faggots do you know how many ayys I had to mow down?
>>744684661They can only give you what they can currently produce. You probably got a bunch of credit with them as well.
>>744683643that is AI slop
>find a buffalo and the last part for the scanner in the same mission >starve to death
>>744684756I mean I did, which they of course dug into with their bad rep tax.
okay, maybe niko has a usebut stealth with guns is fucking retarded
>>744684978I should leave newly genned rookies in training until they're maxed out and then deploy them. This shit is ridiculous
Is osp viable in this game?
is it normal that Tezclan is not first?
>>744685538Weird but welcomeYou don't want any quasimorph being first
>play tutorial>yeah this is cool, this all makes sense>finish tutorial>shit ton of new buttons everywhere>first story mission is 4 skulls difficultyMaybe I'm just ADHD brained or this is like a Kenshi or Mount and Blade situation where you learn by just fucking around but damn that's a hell of an on-ramp.
>>744685658What's the power concentration? The skull rating is largely irrelevant
>>744684507Yeah I think they produce the human tech quasi weapons at high tier
>>744685658Skulls aren't an indication of difficulty, power concentration and enemy tech level are. But that tutorial mission is a challenge yes.
>>744684531Ah, thanks
>>744684817smoke four packs of cigarettes and come back to us, you're seeing demons everywhere
>>744684446>when fucking realware gets too strong and a ton of their guys have semiauto grenade launchersat least their armor is good
>>744685750Holy shit. Well then, it's time for a change.
I really hope the difficulty interface that the devs are going to fix just straight up removes skull ratings so then we dont have to keep seeing people complaining about skull ratings because they dont understand how to read the difficulty.
>>744685658I think they're going to adjust the skull ratings to make them reflect the true difficulty more accurately. The civil resistance guys have shit armor 95% of the time so you can pretty much just shoot them (or packs of them) to death in one burst with any guns. Watch out for guys carrying big guns though, might be a sawblade launcher or a flamethrower.
>>744686000But before I do thisWhat are the actual benefits besides that? I'm reading from posts online that it stops certain attacks. So does it make quasi's ally with you? The pirates?
>>744685747>>744685760>>744686378Okay, I had just seen people talking about getting BTFO by four skull missions and thought either I was doing something wrong or the game bugged.
>>744686390Well when you proxy a corp they you can go around to their stations and get everything they produce for free. You can also defend those stations from enemies, or raise your proxy corp power so high that your power level will beat the power level of the attacking enemies and you win them automatically when the timer expires. If you proxy a corp that is attacking your other corps you like all the time it does stop them from fucking with you and taking over valuable stations.I don't know about allying with the Qs I haven't done it, but there is a quest for it.
>>744686549sounds like it would be really nice with the warp drivebut by the time you get the warp drive you are basically already done upgrading your ship
>>744686549So do corps stop attacking them then? I got a ton of missions where coven is getting fucked over right now.
>>744685658It dumped me from the tutorial into a fucking 5 skull mission. I spent four hours getting my shit wrecked before I gave up and started a new save on easy. But now I don't see any story missions.
>>744686731No, they will still get attacked once you proxy them, and if you don't defend them or their attackers are too strong they will lose stations.
>>744686759if you skipped training you will have the ancom data in your cargo hold and you can just go trade it to ancom or realware or some other corps to start a questline with them
>>744686825Shit. They're the second least powerful now since my takeover apparently nuked their strength. Fuck, I may just let them get fucked over while taking their shit for free.
>>744687002that's definitely probable, but you can build them back up quick by beating their attackers and taking over new stations for them
>>744684446if you went beyond mars too much before getting the quasimorph engine then yeah you let them power creep over you.>>744684837Food is no joke. It takes a real minmax master to do evasion light builds, I feel naked and scared if I am not a pack rat.For you new to the game people just pray you find the RPG7 bluprint. It's always amazing when I get that shit unless they nerfed it.>Ammunition is literally just gunpowder and oil, no explosives>You can make the RPG7 reload in one turn.>Just nuke the map and nuke the hallways and nuke everything.>>744686680The warp drive is so essential I consider it the #1 priority, since a lot of other stuff is gatelocked (good luck upgrading clones if you can't fly to the saturn/jupiter stations to buy their medical supplies).>>744686759Stories are complicated. off the top of my head for the two I know of: (1) Give ancom the starting data (2) Go to Venus and get negative rep with Quetzlcoatl bitch teclan or whatever his name is (3) meet Spider wife (4) Continue that story line.I think that's essential to the warp engine quest anyway.
>>744687047That is also something I'm thinking of since everything I can ask for is free. It's a tough damn choice. And I still have no idea whether or not changing its type will be worth it.
>>744687104I think changing type just changes diplomacy? It seemed underwhelming. Each time I played before I chickend out of who I wanted to back since I am not sure if you can un-proxy them, and my dilemma was usually between the two energy companies and the church.I'd favor energy companies if you like energy weapons just because it'll be free ammo, and crafting for energy is annoying (glass is not expensive but it's laborious to loot).
>>744687104I'm not sure what the types do honestly, perhaps it makes them target certain types of stations to produce those types of goods.
Are people getting dumpstered in the tutorial mission even after they take the stairs? the 1st floor elevator is the only area with proper guards.
>>744687232I haven't had a problem, you can even cheese out the turrets near the elevator easily if you just use sprint to pop in shoot and pop out
This game needs a demo.It looks like it could either be boring as fuck or be exact the kind of autistic shit id put the next 250 hours of my life into
>>744687334just pirate it and see if you like it
>>744687085I didn't know Xomara is a woman.
devs say they are going to have the interface update by the end of the weeklooks like they are taking the feed back to heart
I know I've killed countless of your time in the past, but your interests are now aligned with mine. For the sun, boys.
>>744688039Awww yeah
>>744688002They've always been pretty quick to fix bugs and whatnot, I think they deserve a little slack because they've had the same audience the whole time during EA and we all know how to play. Now that a bunch of new people have the game there are clearly going to be complaints that fresh eyes will think are obvious. Good on them for jumping on them.
>>744687232honestly i kind of regret taking the stairsi really wish i would have just thrown clones at them till i won and got all their gear
>>744688002Hope it's a good one.
>>744687232Yes. Over and over.Then the one time I actually made it down and got the objective, the game told me to get to the elevator. So I take the elevator up, the doors open, and two turrets immediately light me up.
>>744688457You're supposed to press the evac button...
>>744687334they use to have a demo but it was a really old build called Quasimorph End of a Dreamthey removed it from the store and put it in their supporter pack
>>744688457yeahhhh you gotta extract instead of going up a floor
is melee worth
How strong is 1600 power defense Tezclan? I'm kinda scared of taking this mission
>>744688776Defense missions against Tez are reasonably tough, you have to bring a lot of ammo and medical because the Qs don't really drop any. You don't have to bring drugs to lower qmorphosis though
Why are Quasimorphs immune to shotguns but not rinky-dink pistols? So fucking mean. I'm never taking a VIP escort again, retard ran right into them.
I'm curious about people's opinions on this.Which factions are your favorites? Which are your least favorites?
>>744688776If you've got a turret dump it in an open area and stay close. Otherwise I dunno bring shotguns, they like to get close.
>>744688909Leave the VIP in some room with only one door until the floor is clear and then rush him to the elevator. You can control their behavior in a tab in their inventory (and steal their gear if you want)
Every fucking mission there's this Nobilis guy that fucks me up. I'm about to drop this game because of this shit. The quasimorph mechanic is such bullshit, makes everything unfun.
>>744688967
>>744689004That's why you don't leave mars.
>>744689040What's different on Mars? I only did the tutorial mission there.
>>744688909do you mean the guys covered in spikes that rush you? they are immune to slashing but pretty weak otherwiseyour shotgun must just be doing slashing damageyou should always have multiple damage type weapons just in case
>>744689078No quasimorphs, it's easier
>>744689078Mars is in absentia, it doesn't have quasimorphosis.
>>744689101I fought spikey-dudes, big bladder looking things, and a massive dude with a cleaver. They all soaked it so I got fucked trying to clear with 9mm. Oh well.>>744688989I didn't know that, interesting.
>>744689102I'm thinking of just turning off quasimorph shit in difficulty options (if it exists). It's just not fun when every mission is against quasimorphs regardless of which faction you fight.
>>744689208Work mars a bunch until you get bored and then branch out, the different baramfutras have different cool unique types of Qs and learning to exploit them is really fun. Plus the moon dart guns are great.
>>744689208There are several quasimorph "factions," so there's variety in that too. It depends on the planet you're on.
I think I'm gonna be a little bitch and start a run with the option to restart the floor if the clone dies and with lower tech progression for factions. I'm stuck in a loop of losing francis and starting a new run.
>>744689335>>744689341I see, thanks. I'll just try fucking off from the Moon.
Interesting. Am I supposed to free this gooey individual?
>>744689196Yeah theres the Tallmen, Hulks and Centaurs that spawn anywhere and they arent that strong but get stronger the higher the q level gets but arent immune to any damage typethe spiky guys are over in the moon area and they and others in that faction are immune to all slashing
>>744687085Where do I get a spider wife?
>>744689537might as well try it and see
Thank fuck for medkits. Almost got wiped by some faggot.
>>744688897>>744688982having enough ammo wasn't a problem, having 3 time units to reload a shotgun WAS a problem
You know, this isn't half bad.
>>744689695It needs an item I don't have. Didn't take batteries, maybe it needed makeshift ones.
>Floor 1 of 5>Quasi at 550>Elevator is on the complete opposite end of the baseSMOKE UP
Just failed a mission that was in the bag by getting too distracted by the fag in front of me to not notice the tall man sneaking up on my ass and cracking my skull...The fucking faggot Acolyte had a melee weapon but threw some fucking angerlings things at me which poisoned and spooked me into misplaying.
>>7446899645 floors? I havent seen that many yet. Most Ive seen is 4 and assumed that was the cap.
is this class any good? first mission after the tutorial
>>744687334it's a pretty traditional dudgeon crawler, think dcss, with a dash of extractionshooter/tarkovif that sounds even sort of good I'd give it a shot, it's pretty great
Fucking hell.Thank god Daydream has trash armor
How does the realware questline work? I gave them the data but they said something and I glanced over it.
in community and anarchy, do you have to do all 5 floors or can you just yoink the skull on floor 2, capsule it, and still win if you die?
>>744690416Not over yet, it seems.You're new.
Jesus fucking Christ.You could fill a fucking pool with all this blood and guts.
I love the cutter so much... until I missfire and choop off my own leg>>744690445they give you a personal quest somewere, look inside their profile in the stock market
What are good corps to attack and defend? Any game tips besides "have full AP before opening doors"?
Knife goes in, guts come out.>>744690445They ask you to do an espionage mission on behalf on Ancom.
>>744689208It can be a fun thing to manage and abuse once you've got the hang of it (they can clear entire floors for you, there's also some special goodies you only get from quasis). If you don't wanna deal with them just stay around mars.
>>744690371Unga bunga axe class
my fucking lord, how much shit did you guys bring?
>>744690868Attack Civil Resistance because fuck 'em. Help Grasshopper because they're pathetic.
>>744689461>he went to the fucking moonYou had no way of knowing this but the moon is like the most quasimorphically active area in the game. I'm pretty sure even venus isn't as bad.
>>744691083>they're patheticbut... cowboy aesthetics...
a fuel station huh
Just finished the quest to get some doohickey for dr. epstein. That was wild. I think every troop in the level and allegedly extra troops as well bumrushed to my location and I cleared like 10% of the map. Thankfully not a problem for mecha-jacques and his supreme spraying power and quick reload. I also snatched a fully loaded shake on the way and apparently I fan the hammer on it to and multinade.
I love walking back through a level that's been completely destroyed and filled with corpses
>>744691083>Help Grasshopper because they're patheticYou take that back!
>>744688909It's just duggur that ignores cut. Bring slugs or flechettes.
I'll never help Tezctlan, fuck all Quasiggers.
A bit late, but thanks.
>>744691336gimmie
>>744690784>brother may we join your PILE?
>>744691246Based>>744691336Nice
>>744691246the mars ones are cool
>>744691336>The most important item in the game is a "common" backpack recipe.
you know, quasimodo predicted this
>>744691595Just wait until you see the better backpacks, Buffalo is good for capacity but doesn't offset weight very much, lowering your dodge if it's full. I recommend carrying two if you want to be real leet, one that offsets weight well (handy or fighter) and one buffalo. Then every floor there's nearly always a container near the elevator you can throw heavy shit into so that your dodge is good for the fight, and then afterwards you can make a pass to steal everything off the corpses before heading downstairs.
>>744691691>all that time sorting loot while Quashit is stacking upI dont have enough cigs and vodka to waste that much time.
Is there a better way to see what stations are selling and buying than clicking on them individually?The preview icons are hard to parse as a new player and often they're selling a bunch of shit not on there anyway
>>744691771Better start shooting up my dude, desperate times and all that. Seriously though once you get the hang of nuking barons you can just isolate and kill them to reset the Q-meter whenever it gets bad
>exoplosive rounds
Is there a way to remove hunger from the game?
>>744691835The stock market screen has an items tab that shows you what they're selling at least
>>744691542the absolute chad
this isn't bowling
>>744691912Get the perks that mitigate it and you'll never have to worry about it much
>>744691912No, just add the scout skill that lowers it to any other class you wanna use, best you can do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd0PThiwkmM
terror class seems like a class only the autist clone can handle
>>744692257>autist clonedamn too real bro
So what's the deal with the sixth hexarch?
Can you not pick turrets back up?
>>744692415Nah
got class with fire perkjust need to get flamethrower back and I will burninate everything
>>744691912I used to struggle with hunger, nowadays I pack food for a 4 floor journey and come back with more than I left with.
okay, so maybe i was wrong about niko and space ghostsit's like a glass cannon ambush classYou open with a stealth shot/kill and then switch to sprint to take care of everyone stunned by it
>>744692476You should get one from fighting Coreward MG or Civil Resistance. Also in the later game the Church loves fire weapons.
>>744692371anarcho capitalist rulersyes, thats the joke
>>744692476Tongkong or Phoenix brigade?
>>744692516Based, what does your food loadout look like? Two 1,000kc cans aren't good enough for me, I'm thinking about moving to 4.
>>744692583Tongkong
>>744692543Yeah but I'm specifically talking about the sixth one, the esoteric one
How come you starve to death just walking around in this gamewhat's the point of this
>>744692613I just go with 2 meat cans, if I really fear hunger I'll pack an MRE. A lot of my regulars right now are very calorie efficient though, scouts of hades is a hell of a drug
>>744692717same reason you heal in seconds
>>744692720I dumped calorie perk but I'm getting really fucking hungry so I might go back
>>744692717your clones presumably have a hyper metabolism to allow them to heal so quicklyit also starves them to death
>>744692623Tongkong is good for starting fires, phoenix brigade is good for surviving them. Ideally you unlock both and move the fire starting perk to phoenix brigade, but obviously you don't know when you're gonna unlock that one.
>>744692717You're a metabolic monster designed for ultra-fast hyper-violent military raids. Just eat pieces of people if you get hungry.
>>744692762I would take no healing at all over dying from no food after 3 minutesthis is a stupid mechanic
>>744692776makes me wonder how clones survive off-duty while on the ship
>>744692863no, it's fine
>>744692863dont pack 30kg dumdum
>>744691116It's deceptive because if you go to the moon really early on you finish missions quickly enough when you have a scanner and fight scavs. Then one tech level up on a 3/4 floor mission and it's flavourtown.
>>744692863yeah, it doesn't add anything to the gameit's a time pressure mechanic that could be done a thousand different and better ways
>>744692779my last strategy was>sneak until I see room with quite a few enemies>open door>give them burst of fire>close the doorno need to survive fire if I'm not ever near it
>>744693112>4AP enemy on fire comes running after you
I've installed robo head as anon suggested yesterday and holy fuck it eliminates Quasimorphs as problem almost completely
>>744693047well it made you seethe while thousands of us are fine so we did get that out of it :)
>>744693256doesn't it depends by the planet/moon?
what is this game about?
>>744693047this is a game you should pirate instead of purchasing, it's not worth the asking price and every discussion is filled with this kind of thing >>744693337 when you question any game mechanics
>>744693407if there are planets that raise Q-morph faster than Venus I'll just use dreamer with robo head, -2 to Q-morph will be so much reduction
>>744693495well duhthat's every single player game
So many armors forgo blunt resistance. No wonder that one anon said ultrasound weapons were amazing
>>744693474
>>744693474It's about a group of space mercenaries who accidentally release a ton of inter-dimensional demons into our dimension by murdering too many people on a mission on venus. The plotline revolves around doing missions for fun and profit while trying to figure out what to do about that problem and discovering that there is a lot more going on than you thought at first.
>>744693635Hi-tech repair kits and ultrasound guns are cash
>>744693495>guys this game you like is trash you should change it from the ground up>no fuck off retard>this game's community is racistk
>>744693654So is this Russian SCP shit or an obscure novel's ridiculously complex metaphysics?
>>744693937I'm not sure if it was a novel or a proposed new-age insanity by some guy but it's slavic that's for sure
>>744693937https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_of_the_World_%281991_book%29
>>744693937the latter>>744693963rose of the world
>>744694037Ah, so old-age insanity, nice. Love me some weird shit.
>>744693829Changing food requirements isn't a ground up change, it's already 90% there with the calorie slider, it should have an option for total removaland rather than tell me what the gameplay purpose is, you've just seethed over it being questioned, which means this is something you've been trying to defend for some time and it really upsets you that people keep questioning it and what it adds to the game, which it clearly doesn't add anything.
>>744692779i think phoenix brigade is wasted being used as a lolfire class. It's better off replacing flame in the dark and scholar with heavy weapons and dirty shot or war crime. Now ammo saving matters because you fire the volcano or thunderstorm and use the damage boost for overcharged batteries. both are useless for a firestarter who either uses a flamethower or literally any fire ammo. exploding 9mm, dragons breath shotgun. agni missiles.
>>744694129I didn't bother reading because I don't value your opinion, go tell it to discord or the devs or someone else who might give a shit what you think
You print food from plastic that shits out plastic (so free)
wtf does power concentration actually mean
>>744694180You're really upset about this for some reason, why are you so defensive? Are you a dev for the game? Is this what the dev team is like?I don't regularly go in discords for games, they're usually cancer, does anyone else know if the devs are this hostile, thin-skinned, and defensive over criticism of the game?
Im not gonna play your RNG grind bullshit
>>744694279also you find so much food on levels now. people are just insane
>>744694037OhSo a batshit crazy lunatic's manifesto
>>744694298How many resources the company has deployed there. If you mean in practical game terms, it's the budget the enemy has to "purchase" units for that mission.
>>744694342don't play it, nigger
>>744694298There's a point value attached to every piece of gear, enemy unit, the length of the mission and other stuff I'm sure I don't know about which determines how hard the mission is, the numerical value of the power concentration for the enemy team represents that. Power concentration is also used to determine which side wins on missions that expire without you doing anything about them. Over time if you just sit there and do nothing the various corps will capture property from each other and grow in power as they develop new technology that allows them to produce higher level armor and guns and other gear.
>>744694494KAMEHAMEE
Turn Based Hotline Miami with Demon Aliens and Capitalism
>>744694669Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead if it was fun
>>744693256>>744693623just wait till you find an SBN shorts implant and stick it into the robo head on the dreamer and you get -3 Q
>>744694669based description
Last time I played I just kept getting my ass beat by the demons.
>>744694725>watching tiktok makes the demons appear less oftenexcept on the feed right lol
>Defense mission against Quasimorphs>Have to leave hundreds of items behindBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
>>744694772the trick is to use the demons against the enemies. the humans will mostly always shoot at quasimorphs instead of you which leads to a snowball of chaos. if you intend to profit from this type of interaction you might want to be prepared to either kill a baron (not that hard really) or use a ton of drugs to lower the quasimorphosis so you can get out of the station after the demons have wrecked everyone for you
>>744694982That might explain the trouble I had.By the time the demons are flooding the map I've already butchered an entire floor and its just me soloing them until the Baron kills me in one shot.
>>744685103I do that once I have that module upgraded and then when I have to switch regions I make sure everyone is in training so they are maxed out when we jump into the new region.
>>744695090Yeah, if they get on top of you it's a problem, but at least the Tez barons aren't so great against bullets. Since you know they'll be coming for you as soon as they spawn, getting as far away from a doorway as possible and making sure you have two full guns to unload on them usually does the trick. I think they might be strong against blunt damage so pick rifles or SMGs over shotguns (or check their armor by right clicking them). In desperate times I've even seen people shoot wall open to dig back behind cover to give themselves a few extra free turns of shooting. Good luck!
>>744690407Is it real-time or turn-based?
How do you choose what missions to take? Basically any mission in a different part of the system is too far away for me to get to before it expires. Do you just travel somewhere blindly and hope to find something good there?
>Every mission I'm running into assfuckers who can instadelete me>I still can't manufacture any good armorFuck it. Deleted all my saves. Starting again. Good by Fighter Backpack crafting. Goodbye Marika + Tunnel Rats. Goodbye finally having a good scanner. I can't handle losing even my best guys in their best gear to some sort of retarded faggotry. Even with high tier weapons I'm getting slapped around.
I'm Isabella and I came here to eat everyone
>>744695527pick 1-3 companies to support, and try to prevent anyone else (especially the demons) from growing too powerful. try not to travel much, because companies grow stronger over time, based on their number of bases and other things. So the game gets harder as time passes, both in terms of actual mission difficulty and in terms of actually shifting the balance of power. you can use the time options in the top right to accelerate time while you hang around a particular planet and its moons, but feel free to travel long distances sometimes
>>744695530isabella vore r34
So how does portal travel work? Do I have to do a dungeon to use the warp since the upgrades have stuff like starting floor and distance to portal.
>>744695427characters have action points based on their speed than can be used for attacking or moving or other actions on their turn and turn rotate between teams, usually 1v1 but sometimes multiple groups are fighting each other
>>744695527Don't travel too much, companies grow in power while you do and can end up being a bitch much for your underequipped ass. Honestly you're better off speeding up time and waiting in orbit for like a week, you should only travel if you specifically want to change the setting you're doing jobs in. You unlock the ability to forcefully spawn missions with a ship upgrade eventually also.
>>744695816No. There's just an optional dungeon you can do.I advise against it as this is what I first went up against
>>744685945Always kneecap Realware early on.
>>744696862>not going all in on realwareI stand with the TRVE champions of ancap!
>>744696862or be their friend by giving them the secret data and helping them out because they give you a buffalo pack and have good gear to trade
anyone know what the employee id is used for? i found one and not sure if i should just keep bringing it on missions just in case
>>744697292Don't, on the very rare occasion you encounter a blocked door you can just break it down, and employee IDs are valuable upgrade materials
>>744697292apparently it can open certain doors, but I've never found one. hold onto it in ship cargo because it can be used for some pretty nice ship upgrades
yummy yummy totally not quasi shit
>>744692717I'm back>>744693337Yes, I'll 'cope and seethe' with my money back in my pocket. I was already hmming and hawing over a refund and this was good enough to push it over the edge. Your mouth cost you a sale.
>>744696862Buy you need to be friends with them to do the thing in mars.
>>744698052more fun to build up a few underdog corporations into overlords
>>744697971Doesn't the cooker have a recipe that uses that?
>>744698007good, now you can leave the thread
I notice some factions have negative tech per week, can you molest a faction back to the stone age?
>>744698174don't bother, he's just going to be a retarded faggot no matter what anyone says
>>744687085Does starting one story lock you out of others or can I pursue multiple halfway? I want the feathered temple and spider wife wherever she is
Is dodge chance only for melee attacks? Or am I dodging bullets with these crazy dodge kongtong perks?
>>744698220I know their power decreases when they lose stations, do they actually lose tech levels too? That would be funny.
>>744684262People can surrender??
One of these days Percy I am going to make you into a cyborg with a gatling arm and some sort of crazy melee weaponBut for now you are a tunnel rat with my first modified shotgun
The game has pretty good music, especially when the quasimorphosis starts going down, but I like listening to this while I play.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y26dc2Wy8I
>>744692876Well probably just inside vats
>>744698317Yeah. They can also panic, flee, or go berserk. If you kill a bunch of people in a single turn, any of their friends who saw it will probably freak out afterward unless they have brain/head mods to keep them calm.Surrendering people are usually fucked anyway, because they're injured and just bleed out soon lol
Is there a single real human as part of your PMC? Or is it just clones? Who the fuck is Jane? Who am I in canon?
>>744698724you are the bossif you want to see the boss then play on unfair and get your clones killed and theres a surprise
>>744698317Hell yeah, they even throw their guns down.
>>744698391I remember in the beta the battling had kinda bad stats Also I hate arms with weapons don’t count as weapons that can be modded by engineering
>>744698803Some might call him Big Boss
Sorry surrendering fellas I need shit and if you don't strip naked the millisecond you surrender I am gunning you down.
>>744698852Can't you modify them with the implant bench now?
wait I can just... phoenix brigade everyone?
>>744698803...am I cool and strong?
>>744698724Mission control and ship pilot/engineers are people. You just almost never see them because you spend all your time with bioengineered samples of already human champion murder machines whose lifespan is about 6 months but they'll never live that long anyway.
>>744699050Hell yeah, once you borg the shit out of your guys later in the game you can do some really crazy builds.
>killed a baron on ceres and upgrades the pact5 free summons seems really good, especially if it's the golems. the fuckers are basically invincible to everything but blunt, but if I'm summoning them it's probably a situation where the enemy isn't using basic bitch 9mm
>>744699302fuck yeah those are amazing
Is it me or do energy pistols do more damage than they say?>>744699302goddamni really should try getting some pacts in but i'm afraid of dying like a bitch
ARe you fucking kidding me? As soon as I open the door I get mowed down.
>you must eat a full meal every 5 minutes or you will wither awayimagine the shits these beasts take
>>744700013you're in the doorway, anon. clearly you stepped around a corner on your last AP and lost the gamble. fool. I fuck on your ass
>>744700013>>744700086This is the hardest and weirdest change resulting from stance change nerf. Opening a door is the most dangerous fucking thing you can do now
>>744700020they burn clean, only shit I've ever seen is from eviscerating meatbags... and loaded toilets
>>744700171what? just open them from the corner if possible, and move in slowly with AP to fire or fall back if needed.
>>744700171just don't open them unless you have 2+ AP, learn from my many mistakes
>>744700013>he didnt check the cornerrooky mistake
>can't descend into the sun lame
>>744700287see?>open while sprintyou can't open while sprinting
>>744700420Not yet...
>>744700454Sorry, some of us have a lot more than 2 or 3 AP.
>>744694328nta but you are in here freaking out and demand people pirate the game... because YOU want it to be easier.just hack the game or something, don't barge in here to go on some retard crusade
>>744700171opening a door has been dangerous for a long time
>>744698992IMPLANT BENCH?!
>>744688967I'm currently supporting Church for the high end armor and Daydream Chem for the poison weapons.
It feels so unbelievably good to start cranking out your own equipment it's unbelievable
Is it time to start trying to quell Tzec? He's the most powerful faction and I'm nervous that my Mars/Earth farming will be the death of me.How scary is Venus? What do I need?
>>744700454Have you been opening doors front the front this whole time? You can open them from the diagonal where they don’t have vision of you
>>744701135venus isn't that bad, it's just jaguar knights can be kinda tanky and the slaves can have guns that shoots poison
>eating human meat is cannibalism>eating cooked human meat is cannibalism>putting 3 human meat into a can and then eating it is not cannibalismexplain this cowards
I tried to make a pure melee build valable but it just has too many downsides that I kinda gave up for nowmodified eclipse blade to dodge stack and extra AP with a naked bob for extra regen and ability cooldownmy second run with him actualy was kinda successful, managed to win the mission but then a quasi morph teleported behind me and ate my assthe bigest flaw with this build is, appart from the obvious ones like no range options, is that your abilites trigger so often that you need to eat entire fridges worth of food to sustain yourself, not a problem abstencia planets, you can just cannibalise, but on quasimorph planets you run into problems, all the food you bring lowers your dodge and some kinds of quasimorphs are realy difficult to deal with in melee, either due explosions or other abilitieshitrates are also a problem, most melee weapons I've encounterd have absurdly low hitrates, I never hit something with a higher probablility than 75%maybe later when I got more resources to play with I do another build but now I stick to guns
>>744701350Cannibalism is a question of table manners.
>>744701350Quasi stuff works on the human mind's perception.If you put meat in a can and give it a label saying it's Chicken Chunks then the clone has plausible deniability and thus can trick the Quasifield
>>744701170...excuse me for a second
>>744701350cans are technology
>>744701350ever eaten spam?
>>744701479Anon?
>behind waist high cover>invincible, while also having full vision>diagonal to door way>fully in view of enemy, completely blindwall corners should work like cover, its ridiculous that you're safer in the middle of a room and able to shoot over a refrigerator than you are behind two layers of wall.
>>744688776Defense against Tez is easy. Run a good piercing ammo and have your back against a wall.
>>744688967>Franche-Comete >Daydream Chems>Coreward MGAll Hexarchs get the rope.
this game looks interesting. is it early access sloppa or is it out/done?
>>744691883I remember when they first introduced explosive rounds they were so OP it wasn't even funny. Like I question why you would run anything else. They are still very powerful
>>744698220I've never seen techs regress tech levels just progress. So once they hit milestones they always have permanent access to that tech. Its interesting too because the tech tree is semi misleading. The tech tree is just guaranteed what the corporation will payout to you at the end of a mission you can still loot those same higher tier items from corpos before they are unlocked its just a little bit more rare.
jesus christthe fuck do you need me for?
I've played this game for like 2 years now and seeing new anons play it and get easily filtered by the very abusable mechanics that the devs clearly left in for you to use is hillarious.Though I'll never forgive them for nerfing vision to where you couldn't see bloodsplatter outside line of sight. I used to prefire long hallways like crazy back in EA
>>744702386Interesting but makes sense.As far as I have been told there are a few notable enemies that have a chance to have equipment that is not yet unlocked. Elites enemies, scientists and VIPS all sometimes have items 1-2 tech levels above the faction's ability.It makes assassination missions worthwhile, as it's sometimes a VIP surrounded by a squad of elites.
>>744701956think of it like you are peeking around the corner to shoot and if someone is also at that corner they are doing the same thing and have the same sight line as you do
>>744702658i'm the one getting paid for this, you knowit was 14 when it started
>>744702104it just came out as 1.0 so thats why theres threads about it nowthey are still working on it though but the main game is done and there are endings
>Defending last zone on fourth floor>Waiting>Waiting>Nothing happens>200 turns later>Leave>Explore the whole map>Enemy had a single stationary turret in one of the corners>Blow it up>"Mission Complete"Fuck You.
>>744700832It's a ship upgrade
>>744701135It went pretty well.>Wave of nasty rape men with spiders in the vanguard>Give them the ol' puff of flame>Their nasty alien bodies give off acidic vapors so thick they block LoS and I can't see what's left of the main host>Keep on puffin'On that note, does anyone run smoke grenades? I was wondering if they'd make melee a lot more favorable in some engagement.
>>744698264At a certain point it will. The sixth hexarch says some shit to show you have passed that threshold, but I am trying to find when that is.From quasimorph.wiki it mentions the reputation locks without spoilers as being mid-arc. All I can tell you with xiomara is that it should be not locked if you make the phase bomb. Like you kind of have to in order to get the warp drive? But if you use that phase bomb in a certain mission in a certain way (not just on random mooks, if you catch me) I'm fairly sure it will lock you in.>>744687445Yeh Duchess.
did my first bramfutura delve, I wasn't expecting it to be easy but that was ridiculous>5 (I assume) barons on the first floor + dozens of enemies with guns that regenerate ammo and double damage done to armor>loot an implant that lets you see every enemy, decide fuck it and head for the extract while my golems hold back another 2 barons
>>744687085Quasimorph engine????
>>744702658>>744702854Look at it this way kid... you get to keep all the money.
holy fuck, that's good>>744702904BABYLON WAGES WAR ON BABYLONBABYLON VANQUISHES THE EVIL OF BABYLONBABYLON FALLS AND BABYLON RISES
>>744702904i NEED qmorph implants. My giga percy will be a cyberdemon. Half mechanical implants and half quasimorph. Wonder what all the new implants are
>>744702723Yep basically this. Any NPC that gets marked as a mission objective always has a higher chance of spawning in with gear about up to 2 tiers above their current tech level. Its not consistent though.
>>744702896I haven't tried that yet but I now realize that's probably what they are for
>>744688909Make a notepad, either online, desktop or Bramafutra forbid discord. When you encounter a new Quasimorph biome check the stats (Right click or something on them) of the enemies and note down their vulnerabilities vs strengths. That way you learn (learning is half the fun) but also don't forget that Duggers resist cut and such and such resist lasers.>>744689208Alcohol reduces Qmorph as does smoking and other stuff, but make sure you have the means to mitigate the addiction else the addiction sticks with you the entire mission. If you are tailored to their weaknesses (and maybe also tailored to resist their strength IE Tezclan is poison and void?) then they can be easy. At one point I think against the celtic demons out by Jupiter they were weak to a weapon I had in abundance, so they were easier than humans to fight.Customize campaign - combat - set QMorph Growth and effects to 50%. It can't go lower than that. I'd encourage you to try playing 100% though. One area I will encourage cheating on with the customization is increase stack size by x2. It's stupid how low it is on 1.>>744690371If you get tunnel rat immediately and I mean immediately evac.
how do I get story missions? I had it in a run where I did the tutorial but now that I skipped it it won't show up
ProtipYou can lock doors, forcing enemies to bash it down if they want to get to you.Set a room on fire and lock the door behind you.Fire off a shot outside the room, lock the door and place a mine outside the door. Good chance they'll all clump up beside the door waiting to bash it down.
>>744703118What makes Tunnel Rats good?
>>744690868Sunlight Coven. Lasers are really stupidly good unless someone is set up to resist them. They are also miserable to fight against as they cause a debuff malus that doesn't go away unless you drink alcohol(?) and something else.Church of Revelations gives alcohol and shotguns and shotguns are often best in slotDilthey gets the ARC and other shock weapons and if you want misery you will go up against shock weapons. They also have proprietary batteries.My permanent bully-bait are Civil Resistance (lol)Grasshopper Technology (their shit generally feels like ass aside of the RPG77)Coreward MG (Unless you are heavy into a nail/industrial weappons build)Planetbridge to a degree (the no ammo guns are nice but ammo isn't usually my concern).Franche Comte sometimes, their guns are nice but I usually can get better.
So apparently if you get a notification about an infection at the start of a mission, that is code for: "Evac immediately because this mission is fucked"
>>744703225If you skipped the tutorial you will have the stolen ancom data in your cargo hold, you can trade it to ancom or realware (or other factions maybe) to start their questlines
>>744689208quick tip if you are still around or for anyone else having trouble with quasimorphosisif you get a cyborg head as loot(or cut them off of a robot) put that shit on your guysits -1 quasimorphosis and it may not sound like a lot but it actually does make a big difference
Best damage against Tezclan again?>>744703296extra lootabsurd damage bonus to shotgunsbetter coverbonus damage per addiction
>>744703351I really like the random mission modifiers, I got one where pirates were invading the station and it was a ballroom blitz
>>744703363Is any specific faction recommended for a first time
>>744689208Learn armor values and learn what each damage type Braumfuturas and Corporos Favor and dislikesExample: Tezlcan is weak against Piercing and favors at Ranged Posion and Piercing Damage and does a little bit of everything at Melee range. Spiders are Posion so a good hazmat suit keeps you from getting oneshot.Shartamakhum, the Mercury Baron and Bramfaturas are weak against Blunt damage so they are probably the best Quasimorphs to start off fighting since 9mm is freely available.
>>744703392Here's all the demons and their stats. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3548179730
>>744703392Nice!
>>744703296Looting perk that increases level as you loot more, which means more useful stuff drops. Especially if you are limiting yourself to Mars for lack of gear to deal with Qmorphs then it makes it far more likely you'll get important upgrade items like cloning machines, labratory machine, ectera.Shotguns are very good weapons in the early period and they get a buff to that too. You will eventually be able to completely change every ability in a class for any class you have unlocked.
>>744702104it's been early access for a while and felt complete for years, but the devs autism didn't allow them to announce 1.0 until now. and already there have been multiple updates this week from the reviews/requests from everyone who just started playing
>>744703385Yeh, since that'll mean a permanent -1 to the ambient level so even if it spikes because of murder all the turns you spend meandering around might reduce it.>>744703392Piercing innit?
>>744702896yeah if I have smoke grenades I'll give them to Isabella, along with stun grenades as possible. you don't have to play the corner game or the knife throwing game, just stun or blind everyone and rush in there to kill them quickly
>>744701447>>744701350There's also the fact that you're literally cooking the essence of pain and agony (Yes this is a thing) further out of the human meat to where it's bland as fuck.
>>744703448>>744703561ThanksGot all my bases covered
>get the foot implant that makes you immune to burning>mars quasimorphs are suddenly baby modebased
>>744703764?? Isn't mars quasimorph free?
>>744703812yeah...about that
>>744703225look here in the stock market screen. you have the most choices in the beginning, you can't do everything in one run. some other story branches can't be discovered until later. if you travel somewhere and get dialogue, read it. there's not a quest journal usually, sometimes you just have to remember what was said.>>744703431whatever you prefer. they will all give you fuckhard missions
>>744702680I haven’t played in a year or so and I’m glad the dev fixed fire or rather changed the AI so everything in visual range of a fire doesn’t walk into it and die.
JesusI knew you weren't pushovers from how many times you wiped my men, but Sunlight Coven just fucking murders everything
>>744703812>he's unawarei'm sorry for spoiling. Its free until a story mission. Then they actually have the hardest quasimorphs in the game
i came expecting a fight and i haven't fired a single fucking shot
>>744703948sunlight coven the GOAT proxy. Mine is tech level 6 right now and i just get to stockpile beam snipers and shotguns all day. I use tianming power armor mostly since i found a yellow chip with it. Waiting for the sunlight power armor on my giga percy
>>744703838Whats that about a warp drive tho?
>>744703812Jared from accounting left the door to the rape hell portal open again
>>744702680I mean now you can just directly see damage numbers pop up when firing out of vision range
>>744703948You get good lasers and you start to feel like intentionally gimping yourself a little for how easymode it'll be. I never actually got to late late game (Just mid game, I think around tech level 7) so maybe endgame they are more immune to lasers.>>744704173Thankfully it wasn't jared from subway.
>>744704115you need to progress the story by pissing off tzeclan. Xiomara will contact you and tell you to go to venus and hit 1000 on the qmorph meter. She will then give you a pact and you need to use it to access her storyline. Then follow that storyline until you build a phase bomb to awaken the mars bramfatura . The bomb is an ingredient in the phase drive. You really need to prioritize getting all the previous upgrades though.
>>744704224i'm tech level 7 and the game is def kinda boring even without sunlight coven stuff. I've lost my percy once to a freak accident. Beyond electroshock chain stun from the pallas bramfatura enemies im pretty much invincible
>>744703431realware gives you a pretty good armor set and heretic shotgun and most importantly a buffalo backpack
>HEXARCHS DON'T FIGHT EACH OTHERIf you find yourself getting filtered by the mid game its because you are likely not managing faction power. From the early game all the way on you should always try to Kneecap the top 3 factions so there's always a revolving door of power in the solar system you can exploit. For every Hexarch Mission you do, you honestly should do 3 independent corpo missions to offset their power. If you REALLY want to kneecap them always take conquest missions for Independents and CR to take over Hexarch stations. I got into the late game having Realware be at the bottom of the food chain.
Is it normal for quasimorphs to appear after a ritual saying it was too late or did I fuck up?
>>744704115Tech tree mentions in in navigation or research. I think it requires the phase bomb. Just keep going either realware, ancom, or xiomara and you should reach it. What you do with those bombs is up to you. Actions have consequences*. * ᵘˢᵉ ᵒᶠ ᵖʰᵃˢᵉ ᵇᵒᵐᵇˢ ᵒn ᶜˡᵒnᵉˢ ᵃnᵈ ˢᶦᵐᶦˡᵃʳ ᵖʳᵒᵖᵉʳᵗʸ ᵒᶠ ᶜᵒʳᵖᵒʳᵃᵗᶦᵒnˢ ᵈᵒᵉˢ nᵒᵗ ᶜᵒnˢᵗᶦᵗᵘᵗᵉ ᵃ ᵛᶦᵒˡᵃᵗᶦᵒn ᵒᶠ ᵗʰᵉ nᵒn ᵃᵍᵍʳᵉˢˢᶦᵒn ᵖᵃᶜᵗ ᵃnᵈ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉᵇʸ ᶦˢ ᵖᵉʳᵐᶦᵗᵗᵉᵈ ʷᶦᵗʰᵒᵘᵗ ᶜᵒnˢᵉᵠᵘᵉnᶜᵉ ᵇᵉʸᵒnᵈ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᶦᵗᵘᵃᵗᶦᵒn ᵃᵗ ʰᵃnᵈ ʷʰᶦᶜʰ ᶜᵃn ᶦnᶜˡᵘᵈᵉ: ᴱˣᵖˡᵒˢᶦᵒn, ˢʰʳᵃᵖnᵉˡ, ᶠᶦʳᵉ, ᵖᵒᶦˢᵒn, ᵛᵒᶦᵈ, ᵗʳᵃnˢᵖᵒʳᵗᵃᵗᶦᵒn ᶦnᵗᵒ ᵗʰᵉ ᵠᵘᵃˢᶦᵐᵒʳᵖʰᶦᶜ ᵈᶦᵐᵉnˢᶦᵒn ᵒᶠ ˢᵒᵐᵉ ᵒʳ ᵃˡˡ ᵒᶠ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᶦnnᵃʳᵈˢ, ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵘᵐᵐᵒnᶦnᵍ ᵒᶠ ᵃ ᵈᵘᵍᵍᵘʳ ᵗᵒ ʳᵃᵖᵉ ʸᵒᵘ, ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵘᵐᵐᵒnᶦnᵍ ᵒᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᵗᵒ ʳᵃᵖᵉ ᵃ ᵈᵘᵍᵍᵘʳ, ᵉᵛᵉʳʸ ᶜᵒˡnᵒᵈᵉ'ˢ ʰᵉᵃᵈ ˢᵖᵒnᵗᵃnᵉᵒᵘˢˡʸ ᶜᵒᵐᵇᵘˢᵗᶦnᵍ, ᵈᶦᵃʳʳʰᵉᵃ, ᶜᵃnnᶦᵇᵃˡᶦˢᵐ,Just use it on people, not objects.
>>744704213Thats fine but the blood splatter track allowed to to see if enemies were coming since they track the blood across the floor.
>>744704564Oh right
>>744704551the consequences of action will never be of prior circumstances blyad
>>744704551I think I went with the hardest of the options with that ridiculous fucking horde spawn when you get to that room.
>>744704860>This gavvakh thinks in linearityThe duggur will show you the wheel of existence is not only suffering, it is not a metaphorical wheel.Unless you bring a beam weapon then all of a sudden it's >"AIIIEEEEE HELP ME GAVVAKHMAN"
>Choose mission>Ah shit need to do some loadout shit>Go back to mission and accept>I picked the WRONG FUCKING SIDEFUCKKK
>>744705004Yeah the story missions are insanely overtuned. Even kitted out with my OP shit I found the realware one on venus to be stressful. The game really encourages you to cheese so don't ever feel shame with it
holy shit they made upgrading weapons such a massive resource sink now. Whats the best way to farm item chips beyond just jumping to your proxy stations and praying?
WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?!?!WHO'S LAUGHING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW?!>>744705439That one was easy in comparison. Then again, I was frying everyone with energy weapons.also, i fucking hate commie shitheads so much because of the leadup to that one
YES YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSFINALLY SOMETHING THAT ISN'T COMPLETE DOGSHIT THANK YOU GRASSHOPPERS
is this good? ive never noticed an alarm before
>>744705717I think it means if one person in a big group notices you everyone else wont immediately jump you. But no, its not good. The best class in the game is scout of hades
My sunlight coven bodyguards just duod an entire level by themselves. They just sprinted ahead and slaughtered literally everyone.
>Spiders have insane amounts of dodgeIt took 60 nails to hit it once
Are the military cyborg parts any good? All the health maluses makes me think these are a late game thing
What in the fuck>>744706339yes
can clones gain xp in multiple classes? Or does swapping reset xp gain
>>744706339Eventually you can disable the health malus. But yes, there is ahand one that doubles your shots. Headwise I prefer bimbo bot because of the echolocation.
>>744706464Resets the class to 0.
>>744706356Other companies are starting to really advance in tech.
>>744693201
>>744706562what tech level are you up against/faction? I've never seen that weapon.
>Sabotage>the mission statement explicitly states that my mission goal, singular, is on floor 4>check in with control upon arriving to floor 1 just in case, no targets here, yep, looks like one of those one target only missions>get to floor 4, get my knee amputated by a buzzsaw launcher on the way down but destroy the crates>evacuation unavailable>turns out there was another target on floor 3>die trying to make my way back down
How's it feeeeeeel, bitch?>>744706974Coreward MG at 4, but it could've been some hired mercs they had with them
Is it a good idea to swap Training from Scout of Hades to Marauder from Tunnel Rat?
>>744707090If you are early game then no since you really save on food. Once you have a steady stream of food (or PMC rations) then yeah, swap it for damage or defense.
>>744701350wait.. I remember sseth complaining that canned meat was patched to be cannibalized that was a bullshit?
Cobra is fucking insane, never seen this class beforeisabella will consume all
>>744707194probably. because most canned meat is an unknown meat, but canned meat you make in the field is human meat
>>744707292melee sucks midgame, then it can get kinda good late game if you dodge max and max your operative/lower the weight of good weapons and armor. for the same investment you can just create a demon ranged character tho
>>744707292Not really. You don't need to perks there. And the sprint accuracy perk is what really carries Eclipse Blades
so when should i leave mars
>>744707726whenever you get bored, I generally play all of the inner solar system a bit early on, quasimorphs don't scare me
does francis durabillity perk lower the 5 durability usage when you throw axes? or is it only for guns?
owari da?Can they actually be wiped out?
how deep into the bramfaturas does the loot get good? Haven't played since the bramfatura delving was added, on Skrivnus rn
so why shouldn't I use a pact? It just seems like upside but I'm sure it can't just be "get a free power"
>>744707194They removed it but then added it back
>>744707963You gain increasingly worse debuffs. They can get really bad.
>>744707845define good. I've gotten some nutty implants as early as floor 2 and you can murder lots of barons to build up a stash of pacts to upgrade to the different tiers that have completely different effects.
this game is filled with F.O.Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8
I gave the data to RealWare but I can't find any story quests, did I miss something?
>>744708198I think you then have to build up more rep with them or something, generally they'll radio you when it's time
>First mission after saving my ship>First enemy shoots a barrel and I dieImpressive. Quickiest save deletion ever
>>744708078later you get a ship upgrade that removes curse levels after a mission.
....so uhit actually wiped them and the story mission off the mapin my arrogance, i thought i could score some easy goods and lost a rank 4 soldier and an entire storyline faciton/spoiler]
>>744683643No endgame, not playing. I want a fucking conclusion.
>>744708548RIP, liberator and rightful ruler.
>>744698554>Flyffbased
>>744708548thats why I play on normal but change the setting to keep missions available if you die. thats how it was through out all of EA, I don't know why the devs changed that setting in 1.0. whats the point of a clone army if you can't use it?
>>744708548kek well fuck 'em
>>744708678>>744708754To be fair on my own behalf, things were going fineand then I got blindsided by a cold gun into having only a single available AP while a horde of squishy melee fags descended upon me
I could not had said it better myself
>>744708872Mars shitter.
bait used to be believable
does your merc appearance change depending on what he/she is augmented with?if I give a chick the sexbot head will I see it in game or nah?
>Retrying the vengeance mission over and over>Every time I smoke everybody EZ, loot all the good guns and armor and then die in one burst from some ultra geared out marine>>744708872TRVKE
>>744708872>>744709292I'm trans by the way if that matters
would percy work well with eclipse blades?
>>744709507sure, he's got natural armor and good melee hit chance
>>744709507Just remember to bring a lot of sorbent for meat eating purposes
>>744708872This is 100% true and completely accurate, but I still feel compelled to play because I'm mentally ill
>>744708872really want to know what roguelikes this guy is playing where the dominant strategy isn't chokepointing and abusing LOS
>>744710229based on how retarded he seems I'm sure he's got ten thousand hours in some dogshit like don't starve together and considers himself a real fan of the genre
I think I just came
>>744706339>Have genuine proof I extracted with these>A few missions later nowhere in my inventory Uhhh
I felt the whole game open up for me when I realised that you can even shoot walls down with a little tiny pistol and just tunnel your way to objectives.
>>744710431;_;there's just so much beauty in the galaxy, you know?
Sex dolls are built like that?
>>744710431I love that gun so much, at first I thought "I'm never going to be able to feed this!" but I was wrong. When a couple grenades solves whatever you want, you don't need to use that many.
>>744710453You might have stuck them somewhere weird, but you can get them easily by disassembling the brown combat bots. For best results use the ship's disassembler.
>>744710824Having left him to train to max certainly helpedgoddamn
>>744710940basedI am so behind on my upgrades
How to get spider puss puss?
I think I made a mistake picking a melee character and trying to go stealth my first non-tutorial mission. I keep getting found.
Should I go for the baron? I have 5 morphine and a full condition grenade launcher.>>744711134piss off tezclango to venusreach 1000 quasimorphbam
>>744711291tried itgot one shoteveryfucking time
Endless carpet of brass
What parameters should i prioritize on gun upgrades? I have only 2 item chips now, I can pump up my taiga with 2 damage upgrades or maybe put 1 mag expansion on my hunter rifle for 7 shots total
>>744711754save themyou'll get better guns soon anywayupgrading weapons and all of that is more of an endgame thing
>>744711754damage
How the fuck do you throw the knife or tomehawk?
>>744712193Hold shit, same command lets you force fire wherever. Handy for flamethrowers and for sniping guys you can't see but know are there
Why can't I break down walls with melee weapons?
>free woman is about to get beaten by a sexbotisn't it peak pottery?
>>744712258The femoid fears the cyberneovagina
Defense missions are getting pretty tough lads...
>>744712554Time to use all those turrets you otherwise have no better use for.I recommend the flamethrower one. That shit is always fucking people up
>>744708548she would've nuked your reputation with everyone anywayi really dont understand the point of the story missions other than a way to gatekeep instant travel with absurd bullshit
Fucking finally
>die on the first story mission>refuse to continue a run where the very first mission is a failure>delete save>repeatI'll get to play the game at some point.
>>744710229Probably someone who reads roguelike and thinks it is interchangeable from roguelite. Fuck me, every rogueLIKE I've played is all about stutterstepping, corner camping, LOS-abusing, and cheesing. From Shiren to Stonesoup to Rift Wizard and wouldn't you know all of those games can insta-kill you if you lack the proper knowledge or misplay.
So I got all my ship upgrades yesterday and now there's sort of nothing to do other than just speed time up to advance tech level. In a way, the difference between the EA launch and this 1.0 release is very superficial.
Holy shit the shotguns are absolute ass if you don't have the one specific class made for them.>sprint into room with an enemy>4 cell range 2 shots with saiga>dude is at half hp>shoots me once with laser pistol>I am now on fire>die the next turnOk... I see they did not fix fire being an instakill as long as you don't have bottled water in your inventory.
so who do i give the pacts to?mainly to activate the feathered questline but i also killed another baron that gave one for dmg+hp/turni just cant seem to thematically fit them on anyone i have
>>744713248took me a few tries finding out how to clear the elevator fuckerssprint throwing grenades from the tutorial helps against turrets and with luck also against the guys in therehell sprint shooting in general is the spray n pray tactic to get most things down that outclass you, beat my first baron just unloading 15 bullets a turn
>>744714330check resistances
>Restart because everything was falling apart and I now feel more knowledegable about the game>First mission is elimination and one of the elite guards has a buffalo backpack for meYep, I'm thinking this is the run.
>>744714554I've beaten the elevator dudes a few times, and just skipped them and gone down the ladder to the warehouse and gotten the heavy weaponry from there too. Even found a turret last time.I invariably bleed out on the third floor eventually, or desperately wrap myself with shitty infectious cloth because I have no bandages to stop bleeding and then vomit to death. I don't think I've ever died during a fight, I just bleed to death every fucking time.
>>744714765Fire was dealing something like 40~ damage, per tick. With 110 hp, that is a whooping total of 3 ticks (if I took no damage before burning). So how much fire res should I have? 50% is pushing it and that would give me 6 turns before I am a charred to crisps. Considering most things that burn you also seem to inflict damage first, I don't think fire resistance would do much there. Especially since resistances seem to be log scaling.
>>744711343RIP lol
>>744714798You can still make sorbent before the revenge mission, just make 10 for every mission and then you can heal every wound with rags and plastic.
>>744714883he means check the enemy resistances
>>744702680What aspect do you don't understand that they are new?
the very limited footage i've seen is generally a dude walking around and then shooting gun to defeat enemies. Are there classes that get multiple abilities like a get-over-here grapple, or a teleport or a telekinesis thing or do you pretty much just shoot gun all the time?
>>744709089there is a mod that does that on the workshop
>>744715809Some implants and pacts give you cool abilities. Classes are VERY reliant on gear that you may or may not procure. If you don't have your ship upgraded and some specific production recipes unlocked you are have, like, two class options that aren't sub-optimal.
>start third run>random operators >get a Mirza, sees her passive and hp, nice.>Find a conquest with church of revelations offering a 2500 strength, 4500 reward contract against filthy civil resistance>Sell secret data to realware>take the conquest as first contract>Fight through hoards of unclean heathens repairing and throwing away weapons for the next hour>Die on the last floor to some lucky smuck that crits Mirza twice. >Be somewhat peeved I didn't take the respawn at elevator option in settings
Doors are a suggestion.
about to play for the first timesaw someone mention in a previous thread while lurking that they recommend playing normal difficulty but enabling the 'operator chips are single use' setting.Is that reasonable?
>>744716314that's a fun way to play but it's much harder than usual, I'd suggest it if you are good at classic roguelikes (DCSS, Nethack, DoomRL/Jupiter Hell)
>>744701135Gannix is poison immune and their ranged units deal poison and entropy(fire+cold). So far I've seen melee and ranged variants of the baron, ranged baron also does entropy damage. Since the baron can pact Gannix pacts also deal entropy when they damage and avoid places with lots of spilled blood.
>>744701354Melee would be godly in absentia since you can use the quasi-arms and overgrown muscles without penalty. Or you embrace insanity and splice in the perk to grab some of the qmeter buffs for yourself.
>>744716551Right, if you're going for +quasimorphosis you'd be silly not to take that perk and start hammering assholes
Is flamethrower good?
>>744716314game is already quite difficult, that's something you wanna do on replays
>>744716314single use op chips means when someone dies you need to find another one of their chips to use them again so it means you can actually game over
>>744716314Here's an unpopular opinion, go straight for Unfair. The first missions can be a bit tricky, but there's really no sleep lost over restarting if you fuck up either since it's just the beginning.Once you get it going, it's not that much different from normal run. If you go down custom game route... that's a slippery slope that will lead you into becoming Rimworld dollhouse faggot who's waiting for his regular HRT shipments. It's also the reason why it sucks to ask for advice here, because most of the faggots in this thread play some custom faggotry and their knowledge doesn't really apply outside of it.
Quasis are getting fucked in the ass lmao
>>744717138#notallquasis
>>744717138Good, we don't need demons to make our reality hell, we can do it ourselves.
>>744708198No. after a while they will call you again and instruct you to help ancom steal data(espionage) but you tamper with the stolen data(automatic) so realware can hack them.
>Early game 4000 power conc 4 floor conquest against the commies>They are tech level 1 so I figure it is just going to be a horde of shitters coming at me>Send Isabella in with just a knife and a gun because I don't want to risk it>Right out the bat there are three fuckers waiting for me by the dropship exit>Start throwing makeshift grenades at me like they are the IRA>Have to dance and finish them off by the skin of my teeth>Get a decent foundation and what comes next is just a tide of endless commiesSo this is the power of strength in numbers...If this wasn't on Mars I'd have been gaped by Quasis already.
>>744717551This exact thing happened to me but it wasn't on Mars so ayyliens got me eventuallyHigh power concentration despite tech level 1 is some zerg shit
hows tunnel ratting these days?
>>744717551>>744717627this just happened to me on a conquest mission. Seeing Enemies remaning: 20 is hilarious. Every floor was generating like 600 q-meter.
1. It's russian and I don't support communists2. It's a roguelike and I'm not a transvestite
>>744717830biggest egg coded poster in this thread right now
The mission to get this was hard as fuck, but now, what do i do with this ? also fuck ancom
>>744717354the indomitable human spiritfuck demons and fuck aliens
Game looks fun actually.Does campaign have some sort of story? Wish it was 3D instead of pixel shit but that would cost tremendous amount of money to make.
>>744718627Models are 3D actually
>>744715153Yep. Shotguns are great early game where you can door camp until you are up against enemies resistant to buckshot and you didnt bring anything else
>>744702167its because they can dismember easily despite the damage kneecapsomething that is bleeding from lack of legs doesnt need to be one hit killed
does higher carnage level decrease cooldown?20 turns is a bit much
>>744711754reload speed, accuracy, damageenigma type weapons are busted witht that cause you just pump up damage and durability
>>744717138did you unlock the "good" ganix faction that kinda wants to suck your dick?
>>744718627It's 3d with a 2d filter lol
Higher tech dilthey is pretty cancerLots of robotsHigh dodge robots with lots of APResists spread thin as fuck since they'd use al physical weapons plus shock plus ion plus entropy.
Can I get a patch/mod that shows the weapon damage type in the Stonks info menu goddamnit
how do I not die every mission
>>744719075I also thought it was sprites at first, their filter is very good despite the fact that the low poly models and textures look quite bad.
not sure how giving yourself a spider knee can make you regenerate, but what do i know about biology
>>744719151There are weapons in the stock market menu? I thought it was all trade goods? And physical weapons damage changes based on ammo. Shotguns can be cut, pierce, blunt, explosive, and fire based on ammo.
>>744719156put the training wheels on by restarting floor on death in the difficulty section to learn how to approach combat
>>744719254In Stock menu when you click on a corpo, you can check their Technology for some info
>>744719432You mean the reward pool where it would just say oops your relationship with corp is too low?
>chilling amidst a pile of dead enemies hacking up their bodies for meat for canned food/antibiotics using their own bones to severe their limbs>clunk clunk enemy suddenly shows up>chuck the big bone at him, killing him instantlyThe game can be frustrating as fuck at times but god damn moments like this keep me playing
>>744719672>alpha strike someone>mfw looting their corpse I see their head is gone
>>744719058No, corpos just keep beating Tezctlan
>you can use the poison darts as throwing weaponsthis changes everythingkenzie might actually work
>>744719269sounds like cheating
>>744719813nails of pain from duggur also works then there's the dedicated throwing knives.
My frank has had a long career.God I hope he doesn't die now that I've jinxed it
>>744719853theyre too expensive to makelong blades are not exactly common and one for 4 is not really worth it
>percy fawcet>anti fire gear>pheonix brigadehahahahahahahahah
>>744719614Yeah. I may have misunderstood that shit but pretty sure that also display potential weapons the corpo wields
>>744719986percy is just better than francis in every way isnt he, at least with default stats and perks
newbab hereis there a way to see the enemies hit chance against yourself? Like if I'm kind of diagonally behind cover and one of them is shooting at me is there a way to see if they have a 20% chance to hit you vs a 80%?
uhhhhh what was I even fighting for
>>744720710If you have to ask just assume it's 100%
>>744720968>fight for demons>uhh bros I'm getting real demonic vibes from this
>>744720968Contrarianism.
is a pistol spy nice
>>744719075Is there a way to remove the filter?>Lose bufallo and bloodbath because Percy got the good head from a sexbot>Forget I have fighters and have been stockpiling armour>Naked Izzy run YOLO>Beat 4 floor mission on the moon getting Quasied up the assOk maybe it's not so hard
Nuggur
>>744710605I think it's back in 'Nam they realized giving a man really powerful weaponry could produce highs as powerful as hard drugs Esp if they're constantly reminded of how easily they could get screwed over in a million ways or have been using sticks that warp if you ever get them wet for a long time
>>744721767
is it me or this thing fucks ?
when is it better to just start over
toasty skill issue
>>744722182when you dont have backpack and stack sizes x2 enabled
>>744722182I'd say yes, you're so early into run restarting won't hurt at all
>>744722246crouching is important they say
>>744722316yes but I forgots. I died at the elevator anyway
>>744713759>corner campingIs synthetik 2 good?
>keep gathering better and better weapons>remember how I lost best weapons due to bullshit>always send merc with modified(x2 mods for damage) basic tier 2 assault rifle on missions
>>744722182Honestly, if you're just about to restart... take percy, give him food and all your bandages and splints and send him on suicide missions in melee. I managed to win two 3-4k power concentration missions in a row, with only the emergency gear they gift you when you die and a knife, Salvaging my run even though I lost my realware buffalo after 3 missions.if you die on the mission with percy, that's when I would restart
>>744722610Sending Mercs equipped only in shit you yourself can produce is a big brain move.
should I carry sorbent on every mission since it's the only free item
>>744723035yes and then you can heal injuries with rags/plastic and cure the infection with sorbent
>>744723035I've yet to ever have a dangerous infection but might as well since it is free. Just toss it later when you need the space, littering does not break the AnCap code.
>>744723035>>744723119>since it's freeUsing it costs 150 calories, if you're on a mission starved for food this could get you, plus it takes you two hours to manufacture.I'd skip that shit asap and get antibiotics, since they are incredibly easy to produce and have no cal. drawback + many healing benefits+ anti poision etc.
>>744723246>plus it takes you two hours to manufactureyou can manufacture while you're traveling, it pauses the gamein one trip to earth or venus you can make a ton of them for the foreseeable future, if you're going further you'll make so much you won't ever need to craft them again anymore
How do I process realware story? Do infiltration for ancommies?
Cobra or eclipse blades for a melee clone? >>744723035>>744723246I prefer onions to antibiotics because It gives me the reassurance of meds without taking up the item slot that meds usually do since I can drop them guilt free at any time. But I'm not late game yes so I really value that extra inventory slot.
>>744723352>it pauses the gamewhat are you talking about, the game is continuing while traveling and that's precious time wasted crafting something that should be obsolete after 2-3 missions when you hopefully got yourself 20-30 man steaks.Why do you think so many ship perks reduce crafting/researching/genoming time? It's because enemies scale with time
>>744723446You just gotta pray for to find an espionage mission, yeah. I wouldn't worry about doing it any time soon because actual story missions are hard as fuck so you might as well get yourself established first.
>>744723554I'm saying that while you're in the crafting menu it pauses the game, so use that time to launch as many productions as possible during the trip. On a 30 day trip, crafting 20 or 40 sorbent is a drop in the water.
its very annoying that a fucking knoife takes over so much space.
so why would i fly for 20 days when waiting for that long in my current location spawns missions anyway or recharges my mission spawner?
>>744723981hand made knoife. it's a tool so engineer kit repairs it.
>>744723518Trust me I get that item slots are important, but antibiotics are a super early game item and easy to produce. Cutting up corpses gives you the meat needed and each antibiotic has 5 uses before it goes empty. They're so abundant I drop them too when I need a item slot.>>744723792>crafting a useless beginner trap item that you should never craft because you shouldn't be using it in the first place is justified because it doesn't take much time while you make a game ending 30d travel without even owning antibiotics.Yeah now it makes sense>>744724021You shouldn't, stay on mars until you have enough stuff to fully utilize those 30days of useless travel time or if you know what you're doing
>>744724021No Quasi is for pussies, real men slaughter demons on top of humanoids.
Another death because I forgot to turn off sneak mode in combat
>>744724149Please, don't pretend you are crafting something every minute, and doubly don't pretend that if you don't maximize your crafting it means you auto-lose.There is plenty of time to craft some sorbent if you so wish to absolutely no detriment even if it is worse than antibiotics.
>>744724021You have to leave eventually for storyline quests.
>flame turret in a blind spot behind a pillar>1 shotssimply epic
guns can destroy walls, but can you punch walls to death?
>>744724746Nothing is possible
>>744722610I literally do this. Keep the good stuff in reserve until I have a chip for it and run functional stuff that can be easily mass produced.
>>744724021because the people selling shit i need only do it in fucking saturn and jupiter
>>744724389>Please, don't pretend you are crafting something every minuteBut I am crafting something at all times, that is the intended use of the crafting system. There is never a time where I'm not crafting ammo, medkits, food or gear.>don't pretend that if you don't maximize your crafting it means you auto-lose.Never said that. I said if you can't even produce antibiotics then yes, making 30 day trips means you've probably gimped your run unless you're playing on easy or know exactly what you're doing.Now can you stop being such a disingenuous faggot. I'm trying to help people by warning them of beginner traps like sorbent while you apparently travel for 30 days without antibiotics in your inventory. And no, there is no reason to have both since in combat you can only use either or.And both are infinitely abundant, but one of them is actually useful
>>744724892I had to run missions for commies because they controlled ore on Mars and I didn't want to spend 70 days going to outer fucking rim to buy ore for upgrades
>>744724974they pay in ore?SIGN ME UP
>>744725032no, they controlled a mine and only way they'd sell ore to me if I had positive reputation with them, so had to run few missions
>>744724969Obviously making 30 day trips just for sorbent is retarded but that anon was simply saying that if you are traveling somewhere far then you could spend some of that time making more than enough sorbents that you could possibly use.Calling it a noob trap is an exaggeration because the little time you spend crafting it is negligible in the grand scheme of things.
Seriously, fuck these things. Barely killed one, and then 3 more strut it. Fucking bullshit.
>>744725534If only the tutorial wasn't the only level with stairs they'd be easy to take out
What is the best talent to take?
>>744715001Jesus christ, thanks anon. Beat it first try after making sorbent. Didn't even think to check that I had the materials to unlock any ship systems yet.
>>744725654He already has it
>>744725174The noob trap isn't wasting time on making sorbent, the noob trap is using sorbent in the first place. My entire point is, with antibiotics being so easy to obtain by just grabbing the meat of the corpses, why would you ever use sorbent for healing purposes? The fact that you waste precious time crafting sorbent is just the cherry on top.If people want to use sorbent over antibiotics because it's "free" to craft they can do so. But I don't want to hear them argue about how it makes sense when it doesn't. Especially when they even say shit like "you don't craft all the time" as if there isn't a queue system just to make sure you craft at all times.>>744725654I'd pick whatever is most fun to your build. But if you're min. maxing then I'd take health, accuracy if you need it or dodge chance in extremely specific builds
If you do a mission against corp X and lose, do you lose rep with corp X?
