RedpiII me on CRTs for gaming.
>>744686312Expensive and weird flex, but okay.How they work (aside from the CRT technology) is they only support low as fuck resolutions, so 640x480 and shit like that, which allows your GPU to fucking powerlift the engine requirements, so you can achieve absolutely bonkers framerates with the "natural grain" of the CRT projection which make the games look beautiful.The CRT tech is analog. There's theoretically no framerate cap assuming the tube inside your monitor is high enough quality. However there is a resolution cap, again depending on the tube (read the manual), but it is counterbalanced by the soft natural bloom of the electrons hitting the screen.Playing old games on CRTs is what made them look good even though they were made of fugly polygons. Playing modern games on CRTs makes them look eerily beautiful.
>>744686312The one you will be able to buy will explode in your face after 2 weeks of gay ming
>>744687424retard
Gentle reminder that playing on an old-ass TV doesn't make the game itself any better. Same for playing on original hardware.>input lag!A meme.>muh scanlines...CRT-Royale.>p-p-preservation!ROMs are widely available.How you play <<< What you play.
>>744687424>t.
The issue with playing modern games on a CRT comes down to a lot of text and UI elements being practically illegible due to not being scaled to account for the low resolution, along with likely getting cut off by the overscan. It is interesting to see how many newer games can be modded to support 4:3 though.
>>744686312imagine the CRT warmth and hot dust ozone smell mixed with nerd pussy
>>744687693Real recognises real.
>>744686312Fucking antiquated for a reason you wannabe
>>744686312womanspreading is hot
>>744687695>input lag is a meme>filters = realityLmao
>DOOD JUST BUY A CRT LOL!
>>744686312I'll give you the rundown as someone who's owned nearly 30 of these over the course of the past several years, flipping between hating and loving them several times. You can just ignore the worthless disingenuous posts in this thread, particularly this one. >>744687695You should only bother with consumer CRT TVs if you have the hardware that natively works with it. Old consoles, MiSTer, etc. Don't bother hooking it up to your PC because it's going to look like shit and will be a giant headache getting it working at all. If your goal is to emulate off of your PC, save yourself the headache and just get a VGA CRT monitor. The lowest resolution a modern GPU can produce is 480p (progressive scan) and the highest a consumer SDTV can recieve is 480i (interlaced). You need to go jump through a million chutes and ladders to get a 480p signal down to something a consumer TV can understand. Don't bother hooking these things up PCs, just grab a Wii and emulate on that and plug into the TV, be done with it.With that out of the way, it depends on how picky you are about picture quality. These things warp and wobble all over the place, and expensive PVMs are not exempt from this. In my personal opinion, if you're planning on playing 2D games, forget about CRTs at all. Side-scrolling content will contract and shrink horizontally and it's really jarring. The CRTs that have the circuitry to compensate for this are well outside of your price range and too rare for you to find anyways. Stick with OLED or if you want the motion clarity you get from CRTs, get a Plasma TV. They are still very affordable used. 3D content is where these things really shine, racing and action games in particular. If you can get over the interlacing flicker, a CRT TV is the best way to experience the PS2 library. Play Gran Turismo 4 on a CRT then in an emulator and you will understand. I can go forever on this. Anything else you are wondering about?
>>744686312I can't even find a consensus on using a crt TV as a monitor. Obviously you could just buy a crt monitor, but it's not going to look right for anything that was designed for a tv at the time.
>>744688015I hate scalpers so much
why are there two catalog threads with the same ai generated "waifu" on a crt.why is this the new spam template
>>744687424somebody wrote a tech illiterate gpt, this is hilarious. well done.
>>744686312why did you make two threads
>>744688296>ai generated
>>744687968Up until you imagine her doing it naked and giving you a view of an Arby's burger being peeled open
>>744688015>why is the most recognizable and widely regarded model of a technology they haven't made in 20 years, on a website that makes them readily available to you, so expensive?there are plenty of affordable good quality TVs locally if you can hunt around on faceberg marketplace for a few weeks. Panasonic, JVC, Sharp. Late model RCA and Samsung. They don't fetch these prices.
>>744688015its so fucking funny how e-waste went from "it's free if you simply take it away" to "gamer vintage retro" that costs that much.
>>744686312at the most basic level old hardware works best with the hardware they were intended to be used with.it isn't a wild concept, just pair things like that and you will have a good results, sure there are some crossover hardware like the xbox 360 and ps3 but generally that stuff is better off with the hdmi output as it doesn't need an analog to digital conversion.
>>744688162>You need to go jump through a million chutes and ladders to get a 480p signal down to something a consumer TV can understand. Don't bother hooking these things up PCs, just grab a Wii and emulate on that and plug into the TV, be done with it.Every PC supports HDMI these days, and a cheap HDMI to AV converter with some composite cables will get the job done.
>>744688558ever seen boomers? they do this shit all the time with furniture that was so expensive when new you never could have afforded the equivalent today and just chuck it in the trash or give it away to a thrift store.
>>744688648If you like a lot of input delay and a shitty low-quality downscale that loses tons of detail, then sure. The $5 AV converter dongles are made for old people to get their new cable TV boxes to work with their old TVs. Not for gaming.
Why the fuck are faggots trying make CRT's happen again? Is this some hipster shit I'm not virgin enough to understand?
>>744686312I like the phosphor glow
>>744688318You may actually be gay
>>744686312Beautiful picture for any game or video, not just retro stuff.ZERO added A/V lag (not applicable to HD CRT TVs.)Better motion clarity than what any modern display tech offers.Produces "true" blacks like an OLED when set up correctly.BUTLow resolution, HD CRT TVs don't go above 1080i and you'll find it hard to find a monitor at a fair price that reaches 2048x1536 (although CRTs produce a more pleasant picture than LCDs and even OLEDs at equal resolutions.)Low refresh rates compared to modern LCD panels, and refresh rates under ~70hz will strain your eyes over time.Image may be too dim in a bright room, especially if brightness and contrast is set for proper blacks.Sony had a patent on the best looking display type (aperture grille/Trinitron) so the competition had to use an inferior type (shadow mask) until the patent ran out, right around when LCDs took over.There's also the weight and size issue, but that's pretty obvious.
>>744688318>>744688917borgar
>>744688901There's two camps to this movement, unc.>clueless hipsters who like the aesthetic of old tech and dont care about actually using it>ultra nerds who like the objective upsides of CRT technology that haven't been matched by LCDs in the 20+ years since CRTs stopped being made
>>744686312>Just one img.Here u go broski.
Why the fuck do people keep saying CRTs are low res? The biggest flex back in the day was being able to run Doom 3 or Crysis maxed out at 1600x1200. Granted that's not full HD but it's a far fucking cry from this 480i bullshit people keep spouting
>>744689112Any console that works on a CRT is going to be what? 480p tops?And the average CRT is for retro console gaming.
CRTs are mandatory for real hardware. If you're emulating you could in theory route the image to a CRT but frankly that sounds like a hassle and the gain would be primarily motion clarity.
>>744689112yeah bro just let me hook up my pentium II to my Zenith Space Commander TV and get 1600x1200 going
>>744688906hexen looked so fucking good on a crt
>>744689251There are displayport to VGA adapters for this.
>>744689198360 had analog out.
>>744689198>>744689112SD CRTs are 15khz 240p/480i. Those PC CRT monitors don't even work with those consoles without using a bunch of cables and upscalers like RetroTink. Some monitors are multisync (both 15khz and 31khz) but those are very rare and expensive.
these threads are so fucking stupid
>>744686312Would
>>744689591There's a special kind of retard that always posts in CRT threads where he thinks the main appeal of CRTs is the scanlines and the main drawback is the size.
>>744688318>slapping it up with the roastie
>>744689491are you trolling or just retarded?
>>744689916I might ask the same thing.
>>744688318>eww, just imagine seeing a vagina, so gross amirite fellow straights?
>>744689049 Okay. Two options here. Either you have never seen actual pussy;Or, if that is actually what it looked like, including the seven layers of multicolored labia, I regret to inform you that you lost your virginity to a geriatric skinwalker with braindamage.Either way, you're most likely still a homo.And a retard.
>>744686312
>>744686312I like my TVs like I like my women, fat, heavy and with a big behind
>>744690117>badly calibrated CRT with the camera exposure blown outreally not doing it any justice
>>744690026No. He has a point.You either know nothing about the tech and keep misunderstanding when people try to explain why you're wrong (which kinda makes you seem... not so bright).Or you're trolling badly. ("Ragebaiting" for you retarded zoomies)
>>744689251Buy shit and you get shit.
>>744690106upvoting this truly epic post......
>>744690106Imagine writing an essay in response to somebody making fun of roasties (yes I know you're only just now realizing why we call them roasties, truly mind-blowing information).
>>744690701imagine being instinctively grossed out at the thought of pussy and acting like a little insecure bitch when people wonder if you might prefer something else to it
>>744688296You are a special kind of stupid.Aintcha sport?To enlighten your stupid lazy ass:The fake (but not AIgen) Advertisement is used because the real software it was made for is for testing CRTs/TVs. You know, the stuff this thread is about.Oh, and the artist is real and googleable too.And confirmed not to use AI.You are on the same level as the retards in the comment sections of youtubeshorts stealing footage from "popular cop drama #1234" uploaded by some retarded pajeet, who go "you know this isn't real right?!1eleven"You are dumber than a box full of particularly retarded rocks.Denser then tungsten.And gayer than that fag comparing pussy to arbys.
>>744686312Imagine the smell....
>>744690701Imagine seeing a random drawing of some anime girl on a mongolian basket weaving forum and immediately thinking roastie.Rentfree my nigga. Kinda sad.
>>744688891I mean, I haven't had much issues with it regarding input delay or downscaling.
>>744691096Ozone and Girlsweat...Man... I need to check if she still lives around here...
>>744691310Game?
>>744688963>Better motion clarity than what any modern display tech offers.480 Hz OLEDs with proper BFI are already comparable with no phorphor glow unlike CRTs. I swear some games are outright unplayable due to the ghosting of white on black at high speeds.
>>744691437Fantasy Zone. Probably should've took a pic of the bonus stage bit to emphasize it's the PS2 version.
>>744688015>ebayBoomers just say "come and get it" on facebook marketplace
>>744686312I really hate this trannycoded art
>>744687424God damn anon, crt monitors and shit at low res...wew...
>>744688015yeah nigga
>>74469151260 FPS content displayed for 1 frame to 7 black frames is so prohibitively dim and flickery on OLEDs that none of them even bother to support it, and 2:6 already starts to have noticeably worse persistence.
>>744691512>480hz OLEDVery expensive, but I'm glad to hear we've finally gotten to that point.
>>744691782When I say proper I mean rolling BFI solutions. For 60 fps you would display 1/8th of a frame at a time which would drastically improve brightness not only on a perceived scale, but OLEDs have a much easier time displaying brighter objects when only a portion of the screen is used.
How many inches of screen is ideal for SNES/N64?
>>744686312They're shit but visually appealing. But as others said the scanline parts can be mimicked with shaders. We left CTRs for a reason... I do wish for a good 4:3 high Hz monitor however. >>744688015If companies weren't so incompetent, they'd make fake retro monitors. Instead we get monitors with 800Hz and shit that literally no one cares about.
>>744691574That is how nerds of both genders dressed in the 80s and early 90s.We did not really have "trannys" back then, just bad fashion sense.Hipsters dress like that because muh nostalgia.A great many trannies are also hipsters.So there is a connection.But in this case it ain't that deep pal.
>>744692038Depends entirely on your viewing distance.
>>744691916It has been a while since I've looked. How widely available is that. I feel like even then, the brightness would be way lower than some random OEM CRT monitor from 2008. Unless using the BlurBusters CRT shader meme that just allows highlights to persist for extra frames to increase their perceived brightness, but then the>ghosting of white on black at high speedsjust becomes a selectively smeared mess instead.
>>744692041>they'd make fake retro monitorsThey do actually.https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/televisions/vhs-combo-tvs-debut-with-screen-old-and-new-i-o-and-a-full-videotape-recorder-in-one-binge-watch-like-its-1999-says-retrobox
>>744692193Yes we need more like that but with a little bit bigger size and effort. Also something like the Checkmate but cheaper.
There's not any mystery to it.Games that were developed for SD resolutions look best on SD screens, especially CRTs, which is the way the developers designed these games around.HD games are mesnt to bendisplayed on HD screens, which are usually LCD/plasma/oled etc modern screens (though HD CRTs also exist, not sure about those)There's not much else to it unless you want to debate latency.
>>744692167>How widely available is thathttps://github.com/blurbusters/crt-beam-simulator and if you are in the business of consoles or older PCs.https://retrorgb.com/retrotink-4k-pro-crt-beam-emulation.htmlRetrotink 4K is limited by its FPGA to 1080p/240Hz but this is just a case of tech lagging behind monitors. Retrotink also compensates with its HDR injection, forcing the monitors to run brighter than the usual SDR mode.
>>744692412>the BlurBusters CRT shader meme that just allows highlights to persist for extra frames to increase their perceived brightnessThat's not "1/8 of a frame at a time".
>>744692380>Games that were developed for SD resolutions look best on SD screensThis is literally not true. See PS2 emulation with higher res....or launch something like Half-Life and compare 480p (the target res in 1998 with Win95) with anything current resolution.
>>744687424We really need to gas all zoomers.
>>744686312Haha fuzzy screen
>>744692540You can achieve that by adjusting settings like subframes (to 8 obviously) and gain.
>>744687424ever since /v/ became majority brown (2011-2014) i noticed that literally no one understands technology. it's not a joke, maybe 1% of the userbase understands even basic things like how a computer works, how a CRT functions, etc.it's very disconcerting. we really are going back to the caveman days once white and asian people are gone
>>744692112doesn't it really matter if square or rectangular screen?
>>744693243I'm having a minor personal meltdown reading this post after >>744693209
>>744692730>with higher resYeah but it requires fanmodding otherwise textures look too blurry on HD
>>744693171Sure, but then we return to>prohibitively dimunless OLEDs have improved enough that they can hit 1200 nits without destroying themselves. It seems like every "peak brightness" that any panel advertises is actually at least 5x what it actually runs at to prevent itself from cooking every pixel to death.
>>744688015stop being such a fucking poorfag, poorfag.
>>74469350510% full white windows with HDR get to roughly 750 to 800 nits currently and they get better by the year.
>>744686312Why is every retro hipster obsessed with this aesthetic, this instantly gives the impression who's obsessed with the superficial and wants to collect and tinker, not play. Okay, it's perfect, now what? Gunna play the game for 2 hours badly then move on to the next collectible fomo? These people suck.
>>744694620says the tranny who played shmups for years on end just to get babby's first shitclear as his crowning achievement
>>744694620>its an anon makes up a person in their head and bitches about them for no reason post
>>744688963a good plasma looks better, but at the cost of an additional frame of lag
>>744686312Everything up to and including PS2/Gamecube will look better. PS3 will feel smother because it usually runs like shit. GTA IV is playable for example.
>>744686312Time to ai her tits out.
>>744695410GTAIV runs better than the PS2 GTA games. GTA on PS2 ran like shit, horrible framerates, pisspoor draw distance, obnoxious pop-in especially when driving where you barely even have time to react
>>744686312>>744695531https://files.catbox.moe/7yjao2.png
I want to FATTEN UP Donna!
>>744695707Somehow looks less sexy
if you actively sought out, purchased, and lugged home a CRT to play old games on you are a vibes based retard and i am laughing at you.
>>744686312not worth it in the long run. just use a decent scaler
okay first you will want to start injecting estradiol directly twice a day for 3 months straight
>>744690117gives it a real Dark Souls feeling on CRT
>>744697053One of these costs 5x the amount I paid for my CRT in 2025 and can't scale to anything above 1080p.
>>744688245what you hate is capitalism
>>744696320Kill yourself.
>>744697258If you hate capitalism you are fundamentally anti-videogames.
what i'm interested in is hooking my modern PC up directly to a crt as another monitor and just using emulators on it. info on this is slim though and not sure if you'd get the same quality running original hardware on the crt
>>744697281Splat yourself squigger
>>744695553Ahh, truly as intended.
>>744696653Because you don't need to imagine it.
>>744697394You should get very close to original quality and minimal input lag with proper converters like Delock 87685. I haven't tested with light guns and such though.
>>744697415Your shit obesity fetish is a plague on humanity and can't be tolerated.
>>744697246finding a decent set with component in and progressive scan has been almost impossible for me in australia and i spent years doing it. even then, you have to fight with worn out tubes with next to no brightness, ones where the image collapses on you (i had one basically shrink until the image became a single dot), then ones you think might have some cool features like progressive scan and 1080i but you only get standard def (similar to pictured, but no HD or PS, also really stupid grey pillarboxes that burn in with 4:3 content)
>>74469810916:9 and enhanced definition CRTs are a meme. Not only do they have more geometry issues than 4:3 the support for 16:9 was poor at best until the 7th gen which already offer 1080p games you cannot fully enjoy on a CRT. As for enchanced definition CRTs these are not only rare but the few that support it usually show interlaced content like shit. Ideally you'd have two separate CRTs for 15 kHz and 31 KHz content, but frankly fuck that shit. Anything 480p and beyond is going on my OLED.
>>744686312>Shaders>Motion blur being solvedAll that's left is input lag. Funny it took so long to get this close.
>>744686312Why does this japanese woman have a snes and not a super famicom
>>744702227she's a weeaboo, not japanese
