>According to Rebs Gaming, a popular Halo insider whose reporting journalists have corroborated in the past, the recent Halo remake underwent major changes during its development. Halo Studios works with a bevy of external teams and contractors, something that may have led to issues during Campaign Evolved's development. A studio known as Abstraction was recruited around 2023 to help modify the original game's work and make it compatible with a new engine and new features.>Halo Studios opted to utilize Unreal Engine 5, which created issues since the original game was designed on a rather ancient engine known as Blam. Abstraction worked to gel the two together and make it so new elements like sprinting, four-player co-op, and more all felt organic in Campaign Evolved. The original levels and combat encounters weren't designed for these things, so not accounting for them could have created all kinds of issues.>Unfortunately, Rebs Gaming reportedly discovered that Abstraction was prematurely kicked off the remake after Halo Studios imposed unrealistic deadlines and expectations on a technically complex project. The studio wasn't credited in the game's credits, but individual staff members were given special thanks. A source told Rebs Gaming that Abstraction's work was thrown out and redone quickly, which is believed to have caused bugs and AI problems.>The insider went on to claim that the studio's hubris led to further setbacks down the line. It was believed that the pivot to Unreal Engine 5 would have made things easier, but that wasn't the case. The team was led to believe by leadership that they could port assets into Unreal; instead, 100% of those assets had to reportedly be rebuilt in the engine, which the team didn't account for.
>>744693515>Rebs Gaming went on to allege that overall mismanagement created multiple obstacles for the team and even led to the cancellation of a multiplayer Halo project, as the Campaign Evolved team needed its staff and resources. In the final year of the game's development, the team had to crunch in order to get it out on time.>Additionally, the game was planned to utilize real-time cutscenes, which would've allowed players to see their custom armor and weapons. This unfortunately had to be scrapped, as the external team working on the game's cinematics "struggled" and barely made it in time for release.
343 are teflon tards, Microsoft itself could sink down in flames and these retards will just keep blundering on along raping Halo through the mud
How can billion dollars studios be so fucking retarded
>>744693689Women and jeets.
>>744693515HANG THAT STUDIO NOW!I GOT THE ROPE RIGHT HERETHIS SHITTY FUCKING STUDY NEEDS TO FEEL THE CONSEQUENCESOTHER BETTER STUDIOS HAVE GOTTEN MORE LAYOFFS FOR LESS FUCK UPS, SO WHY ISN'T 343/HALO STUDIO 6 FEET UNDER DEAD YET?CLOSE THAT FUCKING USELESS STUDIO, TALENTLESS FAGGOTS THAT HAVE OWNED THE HALO IP FOR LONGER THAN BUNGIE AND HAVE DONE NOTHING WITH IT BUT FUCK EVERYTHING UPNOBODY LIKES YOUFUCKING DIE ALREADY YOU USELESS FUCKING SHITS
>>744693515maybe they shouldn't have fired the old Halo team and replaced them with women and Indians
>>744693515the copes begin 25k max players on steam
Going to have to add this to the list
>>744694893Was just about to post this. This is the 343 classic
>>744693515They seem a little quick to contract someone to push out something to let us all know that this wasn't 343's fault?
>• In the last ~9 months, the team worked under severe crunch (late nights, weekends, constant firefighting and pivots) and managed to deliver a playable, “respectable” experience. >343's bar isn't making the best game ever made, or making a legendary experience>it's simply just to aim for a "respectable" experienceI fucking hate this company so much holy shit
you know studio is fucked if they can't even remake a 25 year old game without issues.
According to Joggaz Gaming my dick will not pull out if your moms fat ass
>>744695468Wasn't Halo 2 notoriously crunch heavy so much that multiple bungie devs quit? Meawhile these faggots are crunching a 25 year old game and STILL can't stop fucking up
>>744695468>struggles with the UE5 engine>incompetent hires>issues outsourcing>crunch time in last phase of developmentThat could be any game released in the last five years to be fair.
>>744693515That's unfortunate but it doesn't show in the final product. Having a blast playing co-op.
>>744695468>Campaign Evolved>RespectableIDK if I'd go that far
>>744694893This one is more up to date.
So is working at 343 basically 100% job security? They seem to get infinite chances for no reason
>>744695468I honestly have zero hope for Xbox until they announce 343/Halo Studios is shutting completely down and the Halo IP is handed off to someone else. Xbox will never actually fix itself until they start by getting rid of the entire studio and blacklisting every single dev at 343 from ever working on video games again.
>>744693515>outsource everything to an aislop machine>still struggle and crunch to get out a fucking remakeJust shut down.
>>744695989Yes but only if you're a fat gay woman or can credibly claim to be
It's like a checklist of everything wrong with modern dev cycles.>underqualified nepo leadership>two quarters of work outsourced to incompetent jeets, everything has to be thrown out>UE5 switch midway through, fucks up the whole projectWill Microsoft learn anything from this? NO
What will Asha do? Her izzat depends on a fierce reprisal.
When you realize 343 is staffed by people who hate Halo and its "chud" fanbase, everything starts to make sense.
everyone who worked on this should be fired and blacklisted from the industry
>>744693515How many 343 employees does it take to screw in a lightbulb? They already had the game made twice, just copy and paste Infinite's gameplay onto Halo 1's maps and throw some PBR textures on it and call it a day.
>>744696296This has been obvious since Halo 5My question is how these assholes still have job security for YEARS despite a decade of fucking up Halo. Get these devs the fuck out of video games and burn the studio down already. What the fuck is Asha waiting for. Xbox announced 1600 job cuts last month that basically killed ID Software, Compulsion games and a bunch of cuts in Bethesda, yet SOMEHOW Halo Studios manages to make it through unscathed.Fuck right off Xbox.
>>744693515>We broke the AI in Halo CE so that we could include sprint and ADSNo one was asking for these things to begin with, yet again it's shown that chasing different audiences doesn't do shit seeing how they failed to capture the PlayStation audience. The co-op excuse is bullshit too since people have been modding in 4 player co-op for years, there's already mod fixes for it in MCC. Also this remake is built off Halo Reach which already had sprint so I don't know why they're blaming technical limitations. Hell there's even a joke mod that adds sprint to the original CE
>>744693515How do you fuck up this badly? Like nigga the blueprints are right there
>>744695704they spent like 3 years to copy Doom 3 lighting only to figure out that Doom 3 lighting doesn't work on open environment.
>>744693515>It was believed that the pivot to Unreal Engine 5 would have made things easier, but that wasn't the caseBesides Square has it ever worked out well for AAA studios?Smaller teams the switch tends to work out but these giant teams it never works that well for them.
>>744693515I've said it before, I'll say it again: Between this and the launch (and arguably current) state of MCC, 343 couldn't even make a good Halo game if it was done for them. MCC in particular was practically gift-wrapped for them, especially considering they MADE one of the damn games in the collection, and they still found a way to screw it up. Twice. In any other line of work, that alone would've been grounds for dissolution.
>>744693515A good craftsman never blames the tools.
>>744693515They didn't even need to do any of this. If they wanted to make a quick buck off the old Halo games again, they could have just ported MCC to Switch and PS with cross play, and mod support available for consoles. Just having a bigger playerbase for multiplayer would make xbox players happy as well
The only time 343 was competent was when MCC was coming out on PC. 343 fixing Gearbox's graphical errors for CE, mod support, hype for each game that game to pc one at a time. Stuff like Ske7ch playing the Halo 2 demo on stream and fun community stuff like that. Honestly good times.
Still don't understand how I finish a game in 10 hours or so yet the credits go on for days
The Halo 2 remake will fix everything.
>>744693515It's definitely the engine that upset people, not the bullshit that they added, bad writing, femboss character, butchered Cortana... etc.
>>744693515>A source told Rebs Gaming that Abstraction's work was thrown out and redone quickly, which is believed to have caused bugs and AI problems.The demake uses reach ai behaviors, reach rigging, and reach animations, there is no way anyone believes there was any work done improving the ai.
>>744693550>the game's cinematics "struggled" and barely made it in time for release.Having watched a bunch of the cutscenes on youtube, this has to be true. So many of them are CLEARLY first passes with rough mocap.
>>744696790Probably would have been easier to remake it from scratch at the start instead of the unholy Frankenstein they made.
>>744694893
>>744693515>HALO Remake Had a Troubled DevelopmentThis has been every Halo under 343.
>>744693515UE5 is just 3D rpgmaker and big studios using it will never not be a colossal red flag. They have their own probably much better engines that are easier for them to work with but get kickbacks for promoting UE5. The next Cyberpunk will also be UE5 and made exclusively by CDPRs new california branch, written to be much more sensitive to the modern audience. I'm noticing a trend here. You stupid ass gaymer niggers think they're firing the activists, nah bruh, they're consolidating the entire industry under their control with UE5.
>>744699542>this has to be trueDoubt it. They showed the silent cartographer cutscene months ago and it was the same one they shipped, all the other cutscenes follow a similar motif with lots of cuts and unnecessary additions.
>>744699861what a sad road this franchise has walked
>>744693515I would be surprised if this wasn't the case
>>744695468I'm not surprisedLike cmon guys. We saw how they bundled Halo CE 2011Then Halo 4Then Halo MCC/H2 Anniversary Then Halo 5Then Halo InfiniteLike how many more times do they need to screw up a Halo game for people to finally say "No" with their wallets?
What other developers hate the games they are known for and are just outright incompetent at their one job?
>>744696296>>744696592My honest guess? Nobody else at Microsoft wants to work on Halo. They're either afraid of not surpassing the Bungie games or they don't care about the IP.All the good people at Microsoft have long since left before 2011.
>>744695928>>744699861Someone should spam some microsoft and 343 higher up inbox with this image.
>>744700081It's almost hilarious how a bunch of bigger studios switched to UE5 complaining about their tech but completely fuck up on the "easier" engine.It's almost like management is the issue almost every time but they decided they weren't the issue so they changed everything else.
>>744693515White and Japanese men may unironically be the only competent humans in modern history.
>>744695928What was wrong with halo MCC? It was literally the same games with the ability to switch to the remastered graphics
>>744700501Horrifically buggy, borderline unplayable for years
>>744693515Fire everyone there. Burn the studio to the ground. Throw salt on the ashes to purify the taint.Death to those who killed halo.
Switching engined midway instead of taking couple months to get everyone trained on it is fucking idiotic and anyone should know there are always unforeseen problems.
>>744693515Are we ready to stop outsourcing, bloating management, and actually hiring straight White men who play video games yet?No?Oh, ok. HeySo basically I'm just gonna not buy it (your AAA slop)I Know..... UGH I know... It's just that I'm not gonna buy it is all HAHAHAHAHRHAHAHA HARAHARHAR
>>744693604You have to be pretty fucking stupid to inherit one of the biggest franchises in gaming, run it into the ground, get like 4 more chances, and still fucking up each time. Halo is incredibly difficult to fuck up and yet they find ways.They cant even re-release older games without fucking it up.
>>744697170>https://youtu.be/dIA0azOqglQ>discover the gift of shami travels>find parallels beetween the shape and feels>reptilians publicly telling me to hide >now that they can't understand my stuff>https://youtu.be/95FcpqxTb_4Maybe don't try to take control of my soul
>>744700501unplayable when it launched, still bugged to shit, ports based on ports based on beta versions of the games, 343 deliberately adding bugs themselves, 343 removing the credits, netcode bugged so badly that dying when playing coop online sometimes reverts the players to different checkpoints, 343 refusing to patch it unless the community lets them add lootboxes
>>744700501So buggy that it was genuinely unplayable for years after launch. They would make Bethesda blush. Older games have a bunch of gay OC donut steel cosmetics shoved in that do not fit in at all, Halo 3 especially. They don't even have the original menus for the games so you don't get the full experience and you're instead stuck with one of the worst UIs I've ever seen.
I love halo 1-3 and I wish every day for halo to be dead already
>>744693515Kill them mommy Asha! Please mommy kill them now!
>>744694893they will do better next time, please understand!
ms will look at this think "yep let's give 343 a billion more dollars to remake halo 2"
>>744701297we know, every halo fan
>>744694538They didn't. Bungie left on their own accord because they were sick of Microsoft and Halo. 343 took over and has always been women and Indians and therefore never produced much of worth
>>744693515Has anyone made comprehensive list of where each of the assets come from? Seems like a fair bit is straight up lifted from Reach.
>>744701243Remember when they somehow created a bug in halo 2 that let you kill random people by shooting the ground with a shotgunRemember when matchmaking was completely broken for about 4 years.I have no idea how the fuck microsoft didn't just kill them then.
>>744701351>fires all the trannies and women>imports 6 gorillion more streetshitterscan the world just end already?
>>744700795Has any game that underwent game engine switch in its development ever turned out good? I feel like every time there's such news on a game, you can tell that the project would fail catastrophically
>>744701604I completely dropped the game after the first couple months and didn't come back to it until the PC release. They couldn't even make the campaigns work properly, I constantly had issued with shit not loading and progress not being saved.
>>744701297I watched a couple clips of the new missions for shits and giggles and it's depressing listening to how old Steve Downes is. 14 years and they couldn't give him one good game, not even some cool lines.What's worse is that he's 343's last claim at legitimacy and once he retires they've got nothing left.
>>744700281Fuck you, Sonic Team can make both good and successful games at times. See Shadow Generations for example.
>>744697797Anon... That wasn't even 343, that was mostly saber interactiveYou don't hate 343 nearly enough
>>744700246Honestly this was the final straw for me and I refunded (though I need more money for magic).But they HAD THE FUCKING GAME already and couldn't just revamped it, that is just bad.
the new missions are pretty bad. There are only 2 environments with the covenant ship being the majority and they reuse a lot of rooms and encounters. It got pretty repetitive.
>>744701809I didn't know that. There is truly nothing redeemable from them outside of halo 4's Cortana model.I just remembered that they charged money to unlock different colors for your spartan in infinite and got rid of team colored armors all together to replace it with fucking highlighted outlines.We really do not hate 343 enough.
>>744701967>halo 4 CortanaProbably the only really based thing they ever did yeah
the animations look a little weird. like there isnt enough "oomph" behind them. also chief's body looks strange when you look down, he's very skinny.
Out of all the legacy ips in the world, regardless of media type, are Halo fans the most raped?
>>744696296Chuds keep buying it though. Remake after remake, slurp slurp slurp.
>>744702630Almost. At the very least The war against the Covenant wasn't made to be pointless and at least the main characters of the franchise weren't made to be complete losers. See Star Wars for how it could have been slightly worse.
>>744702941>chuds keep buying itAbout that...Halo CE: https://steamdb.info/app/2806050/charts/Halo MCC:https://steamdb.info/app/976730/charts/
>>744693515>Halo Studios works with a bevy of external teams and contractors, something that may have led to issues during Campaign Evolved's development.a tale as old as fucking time with 343you would think by now microsoft would have learned their fucking lesson with this shit but they never do
>>744702941Buying?
Pretty funny how these retards are struggling with a generic remake. Everything is already there, they don't need to invent or design anything new and yet these morons can't do even that.
>>744702965Before I hit post I considered adding: "except maybe star wars fans"
>>744697010Square is the king of fucked up unforced error dev cycles
>>744697010>besides SquareIt doesn't work for them either, their rep is in the trash can
>>744703226Additionally Doctor Who is probably up there as it was THE Bong show in Britain but most people don't seem to give a fuck nowadays. (Though it is less raped than Halo).
>>744693515No MS studio is more deserving of total closure than 343.
>>744695989no, 343 has massive turnover for everyone but corporate dipshits
>>744700113>Doubt it. They showed the silent cartographer cutscene months agoThat doesn't mean it's not true. They could have spent that time finishing the other ones.
>>744700501It's a decent port now but for a good half a decade it was borderline unplayable, glitchy and buggy, and just hot garbage
>>744697010Square is UE4 and I'm not sure I would point at KHIII's 9 thousand year dev cycle or FFVIIR vs FFXVI as great achievements for licensing an engine.
>>744703813Did it really take 5 years to fix?
gay niggas. gay niggas.
>>744702630I would say people that play sports games get raped the most but they all have battered woman syndrome
>>744700501Pretty sure it still can't do online coop in reach because its netcode is built for Lan speeds and constantly rubber bands as it rechecks game state constantly and rolls back the client every time there's a mismatch. That's been my experience with it anyway
>>744703689343 is also mostly contractors at this point, but I really hope they get a bullet to the head soon because it sounds like they have no plan on what they even want to do so they're going to waste years remaking the original trilogy.
>>744703907No they fucked off for 4 years because the amount of potential buyers on Xbox One that didn't already own the game was basically nobody.
>>744696286File for more H1B visa's to tackle the problem.
>id releases coom the dark ages and its expansion>they look and play great, finished games that are fun and dont have the doom fans telling them to go suck start a shotgun>plus eternal still has a large and obnoxious cult like fanbase>id gets fucking canned because fuck you>343 releases flop after flop for 15 years>still kept aliveSeriously why
>>744693515Stop buying UE5 skins!
>>744693515>5 flops in a row>value of halo at an all time low>0 layoffs or closures despite GOATs like idSoftware being rapedHow do they do it? Surely blackmail at this point.
>>744704281It's something I will never understand. ID was quite literally one of their most productive studios and in less than 10 years put out 3 triple A Doom titles along with DLC for two of them.
> try something new> fail> copy paste old Bungie halo> sort of successful, not really, but better than before> try something new with a little bit of old (Infinite)> fail> mostly just copy paste but also have a little bit of new (Campaign Evolved)> failAlmost feel sorry for them lmao
>>744693515>When questioned about 343's repeated failures spanning nearly two decades, Xbox CEO Asha Sharma announced that Halo Studios would be renamed to Bravemind Studios
>>744704281the time between games is long enough for normalfags to wipe the previous game from their memories so they get excited when they see a new halo again so the sales don't drop off
>>744704485The really funny thing is that the whole point of Campaign Evolved really seemed to be releasing the Halo series on Playstation for the first time, and then just a month before launch Asha said Xbox will no longer be doing that making the entire thing even more pointless.
>CE anniversary is shit>4 is shit>MCC is old games repackaged (they still fumbled it btw)>H2A is just a cutscene pack (and H4s multiplayer with different textures)>H5 is putrid dogshit>infinite is shit>CEmake is poo poo caca shit0 good games award
>>744704281because Asha and microslop are fucking retards
>>744704631Kinda like when they released 2 on Vista then just never bothered with PC again until MCC kek
>>744704652At least workshop support on pc works for mcc.
>>744704631This move is likely to finally kill halo unless they get some fucking STRONG exclusives that make people want to switch to xbox but lol
>>744704485I don't. They raped my favorite fps series into the ground, they deserve every failure.
>>744701791Wow, one game made in the last few years that wasn't even made by the main Sonic Team but a bunch of new guys they just hired. You sure showed me. Retard.
>>744704485>copy paste campaign beats and locations but completely change the overall feel the game, adding and replacing characters and functionality>failMaking it seem like the only thing they are doing is repackaging content that was once loved (that the fans wanted the return of), then to everyone's surprise having it flop is disingenuous at best.
>>744704281>>744704475>>744704623I think it boils down to two things1. They literally cannot find a replacement for 343. Microsoft wants Halo to keep going on but they can't find a replacement studio nor is making a new one viable because that's how this problem began to begin with. 2. Halo as an IP is more geared for a multimedia franchise than Doom.
343 unironically deserves to die. The studio AND the employees.
>>744701531Halo wars didnt rape the series and that was a different team.Yea its a different genre but still.343 just suck.
>>744704894Give it to 'thesda
>>744693515>Remake Had a Troubled DevelopmenYOU DON'T SAY???
>>744704967They're busy on Elder Scrolls and Fallout now going forward
>>744704816Kinda shot themselves in the foot calling themselves "HALO STUDIOS", at least before they could have pivoted to making their own dogshit instead of continuing to rape the Halo corpse
>>744704894I'm surprised they never tried to give id or any of the call of duty slave studios a spinoff to work on.
>>744704281dark ages was kind of boring but i have heard good things about the expansion. otherwise i agree
>>744704928Halo Wars 1 was neat. HW2 continued the rape by contradicting Halo 3's ending.>the ark and the flood are both just fine actually :^)
>>744695989as the other guy stated, unless you have deep pockets in microsoft itself, you probably won't even last one an entire game dev cycle, why else do you think they rely on contractors so much despite it resulting in nothing but shitshows, pretty much nobody that was there from the start is around in 343
>>744705075I never played the second one so idc.But I liked Halo Wars 1.
>>744704894why didnt they have id develop or help with halo? is it not that simple?
Is there anywhere to even go with the Halo IP story wise at this point? Isnt it pretty done and dusted? They would have to think of some really arbitrary reason to make an actual next installment, yeah?
>>744705215Not really. 343 has literally been trying to figure it out for over a decade at this point and still has no idea on what to do.
>>744705048I find it hilarious how their name on the cover became such a massive red flag that they felt the need to change name in the first place
>>744705215unironically having a lower stakes story about the aftermath of the war and how the humanity is battered but starting to find their footing thanks to reclaiming their birthright with the various covenant species having to essentially rebuild their societies after realizing their religion was a lie could have easily worked, especially if they focused on the later part, but they pretty much doomed that idea pretty early on
>>744705215Spin offs set earlier in the war is the only real option desu. At the end of Halo 3 humanity is on the brink of extinction, they only have a single planet left and have to spend a long time rebuilding. Reminder that Reach is the closest planet to Earth and humanity didn't start resettling and fixing the planet until nearly 4 decades after the war.Yet somehow in Halo 4, just 4 years after 3, humanity is seemingly back up to full power, with fuckloads of spartans and an xbawks hueg capital ship??
>>744693515this remake got me to play halo 1 for the first time (MCC) after being a "halo? more like gaylo reach around babys first fps lol" kid playing unreal tournament 2k4/tf2 instead because I didnt have an xbox and I wanna officially say I'm sorry this game is fucking fun and cool dude (on heroic anyway)
>>744705215You could have probably done another arbiter game after releasing Reach. Seems abit late for any of that now tho.
>>744705603Glad you're enjoying it anon, CE is my personal favorite in the trilogy. I hope you're playing with the original graphics to get the correct experience. Anniversary graphics ruins the atmosphere by making everything super bright and frankly just looks ugly.
>>744693515>make DEI standard now or your company instantly goes under the dirt>have to hire women and POC that don't really want to work so they half ass everything they do>AI becomes the new meta>you now have women, POC, and shitty AI that needs to be corrected>gaming is dead
>>744694893I love these compilations. While on the topic does anyone have an updated version of this?
>they remake H2 and it's kinda meh>but they restore the original forerunner twist at the end as a hail mary for the franchise...based? You be the judge.
>>744705603I found my old halo 2 copy.BUT I CANT PLAY IT BECAUSE MY CONTROLLER WONT TURN ON.
>>744693515>he team was led to believe by leadership that they could port assets into Unreal;HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS BAD??? DON'T YOU HAVE A WHOLE DEV DEPARTMENT TO TEST SHIT BEFORE HAND??? HOW THE FUCK does this happen manHow are these people so fucking blind??? Leadership is retarded half of the time where are the people who actually took the time to even rest and make a small halo game before trying to move the whole game onto another engine?
>>744704876Nigga, you were comparing Sonic Team (a rather incompetent group of devs who at least like the IP they are working on and can make good games) to fucking 343 industries (the devs who were hired because they hate/are apathetic to the franchise they are working on and have yet to produce anything that has created more profit/increased the brand value of the ip compared when compared to the prior game they released).
>>744693515>just have to remake a game, not even hard>fuck it up, again>woke it up, again
>>744705603I can understand why old arena shooter fans didn't like halo multiplayer because muh speed but man a lot of you missed out on a solid campaign.Heroic is pretty much the perfect balance for the games, legendary isn't too bad on 1 and 3 but it's a bit fucked on 2.>>744705760Something I don't see people talking about with the anniversary graphics is the sound being fucked up. There's not as much impact with guns, warthog is quiet and doesn't echo in caves, and a really autistic thing for me is the sniper doesn't have that specific sound when you zoom in all the way and hit zoom again to go back to hipfire, it uses the same zoom in sound again.
>>744693689DEI does that to studios.
>>744700501On top of all the bugs and shit, its ludicrously poorly optimised, halo ce and 2 take up something like 20-30 gigs of hard drive space and halo 3 can't break 20fps on my laptop from 2018 despite being released in 2007
>>744693515still looks and will do better than fire emblem dei bbc california wokeweave game
>>744706050>>woke it up, againMakes it even funnier when they unintentionally do something based
>>744705215Honestly the premise of the dawn crashing into a forerunner planet is not a bad one. The main problem though are enemies.If we're not fighting covenant this time around its probably going to be robots or wildlife (or maybe flood). I cant imagine that's enough to carry a whole gameThe covenant's raison d'être is gameplay, so that there's varied enemy design. The lore came later. Either a brand-new alien alliance is there (contrived) a bunch of forerunner bots are angry (potentially boring) or the wildlife gets a bit crazy.
>>744706365Geeeeegggg this
>>744696286Another 1600 job cuts will happen. Halo studios may be on that list now that the Halo game is out and it flopped.
>>744706082You're right, I completely forgot about how bad the audio is. Yet another reason to stick to the original.
at least you halo fans are doing better than fire emblem fans rn geg
>>744706297Halo 2 is about 56GB with campaign and multiplayer installed because they force you to install the anniversary versionLow performance is probably you just being on a laptop. I get locked 120 at 1440p on my rx580
>>744693515The premise is retarded. What's the point of remaking Halo 1 when MCC exists?
>>744701297Erm, you're not a real fan, chud. You're ungrateful.
>>744706471I get you just want to shitpost about fire emblem in a completely unrelated thread for some reason but you should actually understand the position halo has been in for 14 years before saying something stupid like that.
>>744705962Two incompetent studios dedicated to making games for am IP brand thst they keep fucking up and have zero understanding what made the original games work, yet they still remain getting work while studios around them get shuttered.Sounds like a fair comparison.
>>744706542They most likely planned on doing a remake trilogy for PS5 instead so they wouldn't have to give them 6 games for the price of 1.
>>744706445They're going to survive. They always do.
>>744706542There was probably two plans in play. One was bringing the series to Playstation and Two was buying 343 some time while they flail around like fish trying to figure out what to do with the franchise. Asha has already put an axe into their plan because the entire point of the remake is now pointless because they cannot do Playstation releases anymore.
>>744705192id is the Doom (and possibly Quake) studio. Giving Halo to them will take time away from their own IP, especially with how long development times are now.
>The original levels and combat encounters weren't designed for these things, so not accounting for them could have created all kinds of issues. Like it fuckin' did, and like I said it would? Who would've thought that putting mechanics in a game that wasn't designed for them would lead to issues. 343 is a magical kind of retarded, it's fucking amazing.>the studio's hubris led to further setbacks down the line. What hubris? They've never done anything good outside of Halo 4 Cortana, which I doubt was even designed by them, considering how they outsource damn near their entire jobs. I'm curious to what 343 actually does at "work"The 343 studio has to be some type of adult daycare for mentally deficient adults.
>>744702630yeah 15 years of shit games
so from what i can tell all these studios just have nepobabies fail upwards while telling the grunts to make something and then discard it after 6 months. repeat until close to the deadline where they finally go panic mode and make everyone crunch for 18 hours every day to shit out a minimum viable product
>>744696286Close the whole studio and Make a new one with Jeets. Bungie died on a rapid declive, but Halo was a desecration Gaming won't forgive on a long time.
>>744693689>Make a video game!>Sure thing. All I need is a 5 year contract>You greedy little shit! You get 6 months tops! Don’t like it? Then piss off! There’s plenty of jeets who can do a better job than you!
>>744707159NTA, Phil Spencer literally gave them all the time/budget in the world. That is a huge reason why Microsoft is in such a shit situation right now.
>>744695989No, Microsoft hates that shit, that's why 80% of its workforce are temporal contractors that only stay for 18 monthas and are kicked to avoid paying benefits
>>744705850>Remake the cut ending>The skeleton isn't human anymore>Remake 3>Guilty Spark says "You are NOT forerunner. And so, this ring... is mine!">Remake 4 just to uglify Cortana, everything else is the exact same
Someone really needs to find Epsteins kompromat and force bill to finally close this shit studio.
>>744704281Because Microsoft wants to turn id into a revolving door of contractors like 343 already is, because having people with seniority in the studios that might fight back stupid orders and notes from execs is a no no for business
Fuck off, 343 is actually peak gaming art because they turn every single release into a live-action survival horror game for their own developers. If you don't like playing a broken UE5 asset flip made by 18-month contract slaves, you're just not a real Halo fan. I hope they force-feed us Halo 2 Remake built on RPGMaker next.
>>744693515IT'S A FUCKING REMAKE! EVERYTHING IS THERE FOR YOU TO JUST COPY AND PUT A SHITTY UE5 ON TOP! HOW DO YOU FUCK THIS UP?!? WHAT MANNER OF LOW IQ DYSGENIC SUBHUMANS DO THEY HAVE WORKING ON 343?!?
>>744697170Yes you can blame the tools because the engine wasn't created by 343 anyways. The slipspace engine was pretty much outsourced during its whole lifespan and the people who actually build it were contractors. The engine might as well not even be a tool for 343 because clearly 343 didn't even know what it was
>>744693515I truly don't care. Shut down 343 already and fire everyone involved in their games for good. It is long overdue.
>>744695592Remaking a game from scratch is genuinely not easy, but these fuckers got the keys to the kingdom. Some 343 is even more technically incompetent than Game Freak.
>>744707706Women, Indians and fake women.Sometimes a single person is 2 of 3
>>744693515every game 343i/Halo Studios has made, has had a troubled development
>>744693515It’s literally just a remake of a linear FPS that came out 25 years ago. There is an extreme competency crisis in the gaming industry. I just don’t think women and POC are built for this kind of work, they can’t handle it
>>744706379>If we're not fighting covenant this time around its probably going to be robots or wildlifeI had a fantasy that Halo 4 would involve MC crashing on some alien planet, fighting dinosaurs and robots like Turok. To me it was the only plausible way to continue.
>>744707904Not to mention that it was made in UE5. You know, the engine that lets you auto generate everything with the press of a button. Fuck these fucking people, keep firing them Asha
>>744707706>15 years of constant failure>The only success they've achieved has been through brand recognition alone>Due to lack of talent and skill, forced to outsource the most basic of tasks>Getting co-op to work after years of games not having it, was considered a huge triumph for 343, probably hired someone outside the company to do it>Keep allowing these assholes to make gamesYou could have Halo 3 rat working at 343, and he'd do a better job. Is there some tax write-off shit I don't know about? Are they trying to lose money for some reason?
>>744693515>have like 9 chances with the Halo IP between all the games, the shows, Halo Legends, etc>fuck up every single one spectacularlyImagine fumbling such a landmark IP that badly.
>>744708128Pic related was supposed to be a joke. This story is unironically taken more seriously than how 343 treats the lore, and has more of a sentimental soul to it than I've ever seen in a 343 game.1337 is cannon, fuck anyone who says he isn't.>I'm one heck of a momma' myself!
>>744704281They cost nothing and the handful of actual full time employees there would still be around to manage all the other bullshit like books
>>744708096They fucking better start firing all the trannies and commies like they did in Bethesda cause' holy shit! If they cut heads at Id software, 343 deserves a fucking rapture
>>744706782Just have Doomguy enter a doom portal that takes him and some demons to the Halo timeline. EZ Halo x Doom crossover that brings in both fans and combines the strengths of both franchises.
I think a lot more people would like it if they had the PC which could run it
>>744706297>halo 3 can't break 20fps on my laptop from 2018Probably an issue on your part cause it ran at 60fps without a single drop on my 2017 laptop.
The beauty of CE is that every weapon is viable on Legendary. Shame it can't be said about the sequelsHalo 2 ruined the weapon design and that carried over to Halo 3, ODST, Reach and Halo 4>muh BR to win>muh noob combo>muh garbage automatics>muh power weaponsSMG starts? H3 AR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyYwLCDyCU
>>744693515>western game fatigue is so bad halo is dead
>>744709575343 shot down a Doom and Halo crossover because of lore implications. It's never gonna happen.
>>744710141>no, we can't make a good game because loretubers will pick it apartJust fuck this industry to ashes.
>>744709857...except nailerYou die before the nailer blows up a single elite.
>>744706627Sonic's been good lately. Go fuck yourself. And Shadow Generations director literally upstaged the director of the last few games so I bet he's pretty pissed about it since the new guy is probably gonna get his job. He nailed a good sonic game on his first try and the old dude has been fucking them up for decades
>>744696296Nobody but white men should be making games like this.
>>744693515Halo MCC was one of the worst launches for a game I've ever experienced. That game is the reason why I'll never give 343 any benefit of the doubt. Game was broken for years and still has annoying bugs they'll never fix.
>>744709857H3 AR works more than fine in single player, or offline in general. The only things that kind of suck are single wielding dual wield weapons.
>>744693604MicroSlop already cleaned house. If Pete Heinz (the one that took over when Frankie "Bisexual Jannie" O'Connor and the bitch got shitcanned)'s first project out of the gate (a UE5 sloppa remaster like Oblivions) didn't move the needle, 343 (sorry, sorry: "Halo Studios") is DONE-done.There is nothing they can do to fix this since they cut out the multiplayer, so why the fuck would anyone buy this slop over the MCC (that Heinz sort of fixed the PC port of)? Only Playstation had some merit to it (first time on the console/platform) and even they collectively shrugged it since it had no multiplayer.
>>744693689Posting on NeoGAF, unironically. Frankie should've been fired after Halo 5, but for whatever reason they kept him until Halo 6 was done a decade later.
343 should have been destroyed after MCC.
What did people hate about infinite again?
>>744693689Years of complete and utter mismanagement destroyed the fundamentals of the studio and no amount of rebranding will change this. Anyone with talent quit or was fired by now. This fucked the leftover devs tenfold. Even if the studio was closed MS proved they can't create a new one.
>>744700246honestly, anyone still buying halo in the current year is a retard. it's like expecting a competent product from gamefreak
Campaign Evolved is the first game I haven't bought. Infinite was fucked up, but at least it was a step in the right direction because everything else was so terrible by comparison. However, seeing how poorly this game was handled confirmed that anything decent about Infinite really was just a fluke and that there is no hope.
>>744710690Open world is bad. Multi was really lacking on launch plus fucked servers (especially bad for Aus players). Goofy gameplay changes as well IMO
You're copying a 25 year old game with the easiest most accessible engine ever made, if you can't do that then what can you do? If a cook cannot make an omelette then you are in the wrong industry.
>>744710141>343>cares about the lore >after ruining it and making it unsalvageable in their first gameThose disingenuous cunts...
>>744710347>>744710709
>>744710141That was microsoft not 343 and we don't know why they rejected the pitch. Probably some bullshit about needing to "protecting the brand".
>>744710930What difficulty was this on? Heroic? Legendary? Anyways, I have heard the AI is complete dogshit, this video proves that notion true.
>>744710989According to the chat its heroic.
>>744703582Doctor who has already died and reincarnated at least once, so who fans know they just have to wait and it will eventually become good again
>>744711281>it will eventually become good againŁØŁ
>>744706490Sure the laptop is not exactly a high performance machine, but it gets a steady 40-60fps in CoD4 and a crisp, strict 60 at all times for half life 2 (although I would expect nothing less from valve). It runs plenty of games including console ports that came out years after Halo 3 with no trouble so the issue is clearly one of optimisation amd not just lack of power
>>744711340It needs to be run into the ground so completely that it gets shut down and written off first, but once that happens and a decade or so passes it will get revived by a new team woth fresh ideas and be good just like last time
>>744704652343 didn't work on H2A campaign, that was all Saber and Blur studios. The only thing they touched and ruined was H2A mulitplayer which was so bad that it was DOA when it came out.
I am sooooooooo glad Reach was the last Halo game I played. I had a feeling it was all gonna go downhill with 343 so I just never bought into it. It's sad to see, but I'm glad I haven't experienced any of it.
>>744711281That shit died with Capaldi and they know it, no one they bring on will ever top him so it's entirely downhill from there
>>744693515Does MS have to keep making halo games else they'll lose the rights or something? Just decades of blunders holy fuck
>>744695468>and managed to deliver a playable, “respectable” experience.they didn't even manage this though
>>744711813>Does MS have to keep making halo games else they'll lose the rights or something? Just decades of blunders holy fuckBonnie Ross wanted 343 to create 40 years of Halo games and turn Halo into a Star Wars EU transmedia franchiseFrankie hired different writers for everything.>Greg BearForerunner Saga>Karen TravisKilo Five>Chris SchlerfHalo 4>Brian ReedSpartan Ops, Halo Escalation and Halo 5343's Halo foundation was Kilo 5 trainwreck by Karen Traviss, the writer behind the Republic Commando novels and known for her obsession with Mandos being the bestest most honorable warrior culture in the galaxy who everyone look up to, and with the Jedi being evil baby kidnapping monsters. And then apparently she did the same thing with Halo and Gears of War novels
>>744703416still well see kingdom autism 4 in the 2030s
Halo failedThe games failedThe tv show failedJust pull the plug already
>>744704281dark ages looks superbland to be forced to use gay tracing and the game is only spiced fun when they remove you the shield in the dlc
>>744711237That's fucked then.
>>744701791Also a tiny expansion placed ontop of a game from 2011 that didn’t add anything extra except a few shadow levels hardly a big push.
>>744711749That's unironically something that was said about the original run back in the day as wellYou are otherwudlse correct about capaldi being a superb doctor, perhaps the only one I would consider outright better than David Tennant
>>744693689343 in particular has been pants on head retarded for 15 fucking years and counting. How they're still alive when other studies have gotten the boot for far, FAR less incompetence than 343 in its entire existence is simply baffling.
>>744712485>343 in particular has been pants on head retarded for 15 fucking years and counting. How they're still alive when other studies have gotten the boot for far, FAR less incompetence than 343 in its entire existence is simply baffling.343 is a business division within Microsoft that has a rotation of contractors
>>744710832>fire or replace competent people because of their high salaries or genitals or skin color>product goes to shit>profits collapseStupid people in decision making positions will kill a billion dollar industry, the wealth they have doesn't matter, they will piss it all away like trust fund kids. Capitalism is funny that way, because it allows you to hang yourself if you're not careful. At least they have a "positive" brand image, as positive as promoting AIDS and mental illnesses allow you to have.
>remake the killer app of your entire brand>fuck it up royally>only 8% of xbots gave a shit (game pass game btw)>1% (one) (uno) of snoys even bothered checking it outAnd somehow, 343 will still return.
>>744712648no wonder it has issues if they just used this scroll for legal reasons and lazynesss
I'm a junior dev and I always wanted to work on a big vidya project but reading all what's going behind the scenes, the fact that studios will always favor AI or indians and if they even hire you it's just a matter of time before they fire your ass... all of that just ruin coding for me. What's the point anymore ? i'm not a senior dev so I can land a sweet gig, recruiters will prefer Claude or Pajeet over me anyway...
>>744712756Bungie didn't work on Halo PC. They outsourced it to Gearbox. lacks certain shaders, ie jackal shields, cov shields, dropship plasma, AR shadersBungie didn't work on Halo 2 Vista. They outsourced it343 didn't work on CEA. They outsourced it.343 outsourced CEA and H2A to Saber Interactive for FREE using the inferior PC ports as the base and Sean Cooper spent 5 years fixing the broken ports343 outsourced terminals in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary to Sequence343 outsourced Reach DLC maps (Defiant Map Pack/Anniversary Map Pack) and Halo 4 DLC maps to Max Hoberman and Certain Affinity (multiplayer, online, and UX design lead for Halo 2 and Halo 3)Halo 4 campaign just feels half-baked. It has sections that feel empty, lacking content. Removed point scoring. As a result, the timer was also removed(used for speed runs). You can't view the campaign terminals ingame; you must go to waypoint. Forge Island gives us ten times less budget than Forge World. Removed Race, Territories, Stockpile, Headhunter, and Juggernaut. “Infinity” gametypes include instant respawn, perk packages and customized loadouts (COD). "Legendary" gametypes fixed this.Halo 4 and part of Halo 5 are the only game 343i actually put together themselves with their in house studio, MCC and especially infinite has been nothing but wrangling contractors and contract studios. Infinite has something like 5 confirmed studios that worked on it. That is why their dev cycle takes so long and fucks shit up constantly(besides the technical debt). 343 is just an umbrella studio that directors other contract studios into making broken messes of games. Its why everything except Halo 4 is a broken retarded mess because Halo 4 was the only 343i title actually done in house and not through 20 corporate suit games of telephone and Zoom meetingsMCC was outsourcedhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpklokblI006QYtGlxUeds747lPZD_JSph56qLJqzhwCampaign Evolved is outsourced to Chinese
>>744712756Give it time, they'll figure out that vibe coding cannot replace actual coding eventually
>>744709857... i hate that i have to ask every time to clarify, but are you talking about combat evolved or campaign evolved
>>744713082The original Halo: Combat Evolved 2001
>>744709857Yep. Halo 2 sucks, Joe Staten's narrative direction sucks, the Halo novels sucks, Halo 4 and 5 sucks, and 343 Industries sucks.
>>744713082Lets just agree that CE = Combat EvolvedAnd something else like CPE = Campaign Evolved.
>>744712538the managers managing the rotation of contractors aren't very good at their jobs
>>744713204>>744712756>all of that just ruin coding for me. What's the point anymore ? i'm not a senior dev so I can land a sweet gig, recruiters will prefer Claude or Pajeet over me anyway... just outsource it bro
>>744712756be indie DUH
>>744712859i cant believe chinese did this shit instead of indians
>>744712859Fun fact: Halo 3 came with more bugs than gearbox version had at its prime.
Honestly I'm just glad 343 decided to make a remake instead of pretending they know how to make something new. All their ideas, the enemies, the sound effects, the music, even the menus, feel completely soulless and don't resemble Halo in anything but the name. It's like the studio couldn't be bothered to understand what made Halo special and just soft rebooted it into a generic sci-fi robot shooter.I fucking hate the Prometheans so much bros.
>>744715385Someone should post the warthog seat switching webm.They didnt even bother to make animations for it on the remake, you just teleport between the seat and turret
Are there even any major studios where the games don't have "troubled development" these days?
>>744715474Yeah it looks like shit due to the reach engine but if that's the price to pay for a normal Halo game I'll take it.
>>744715846Reach had animations for switching.
The thing that baffles me the most is that they decided to not use the Infinite enemies, which have really good AI and movement, and instead returned to a game from 15 years ago. Just the fact that Brutes and Elites (and Marines) can pick up weapons makes them incredibly more threatening.
>>744717038I have one theory as to why, and it's not a great idea: the fact that Slipspace was such a fucking mess that they had no one that programmed it left and had to scramble to get some other shit working, so they went to the last new piece of code they made back in 2019. Halo Reach MCC.
>>744693515>had to abandon the slipspace engine because it was built by jeet contractors who were fired the second the game came out>the slipspace was unusable and took months if not years to make the smallest changes because every single part of the game had to be baked into the engine at a fundamental level>change studio name>change engine to ue5>still hire jeet contractors and fire them wasting years of time and 10s of millionsi just...i just dont understand...
>>744704281>and play great
>>744693515Asha needs to shut down 343 studios and give the halo ip to id, machine games, or one of the call of duty studios.
>>744717669Asha needs to be fired for this failure
>>744716165Reach didn't have seat switching at all, retard
>>744717695Halo demake was greenlit under phil
>>744717853I offer no forgiveness. A father's sins passed to his son.
MCC when it first came out on the Xbox One was easily the most broken AAA release in history, the reason nobody remembers it is because PS4 dominated that gen and almost nobody actually owned an Xbox One.Anyone arguing otherwise wasn't there, you'd queue for 4v4 slayer and end up in fucking 7v3v2 oddball or some shit, the host of a public matchmaking game (the game was p2p at the time despite them saying it was dedicated servers) could kick people from the match like it was a custom game, fuck both of those are assuming you could get into a game at all.
>>744718164meant for >>744700501
>>744718019I was playing some MMC multiplayer earlier. I couldn't find a game unless I searched for everything, but when I did find a game I had a lot of fun. It almost added to the experience because you dont know if your doing Snipers Only, FFA Random Weapons, Warthog Racing, etc always a surprise. Game experience gacha. But Halo is still really fucking fun. Nothing else like it in some ways.
>>744704281john romero is the unspoken mel gibson of gaming, his combination of talent and noticing is too dangerous to be kept alive
>>744718019It's funny how besides a basic background, menu music and some shared UI the 2019-2020 rework effectively redid so much that it's comically unrecognizable. Like, jesus CHRIST what the fuck happened to the old release>can't even select proper customization, you basically just had menu options for each helmet and the color>halo 4 sets had to be entire sets, no mix and match customization>loadouts were also fuckedAnd shit was so fucked in other unpredictable ways that even when they got fans and employees to work on fixing MCC a bit for Reach / PC, basically no one touched 2 Anniversary's new graphics mode or its multiplayer. MP still has a gamma overbrightening bug you can't fix in any way whatsoever to this day as the simplest fucking thing to fix, and none of its glitches were resolved past initial dumpster fire patch cycle shit. They just abandoned it and left any fixes entirely to classic graphics in the campaign - which were a half-measure like EVERYTHING in the fixup that wasn't Combat Evolved, which fixed up a lot of shit the most.Pretty sure all the games still have some very notable glitches to this day, from minor graphics nitpicks to actual game-stopping issues like the Halo 4 mission softlock where you just can't continue one specific level and haven't been able to since the fucking original release at pure random.
>>744693515How much time do they need? You actual braindead gorilla monkeys. It's just a Halo Reach mod ported to Unreal Engine 5. It's not witchcraft, it's something some nerd could've made in his basement if he was paid to crack at it for the same amount of time. Get these people out of game development immediately.
>>744717695Asha did nothing wrong, the Demake was approved by phill spencer, if anything, Asha needs to fire all the ones responsible for this failure, I truly believe she must go full "Prophet of Truth mode" on how she handles xbox moving ahead
>>744718247My favorite unpatched bug is how they fixed the hit registration in halo 3 for the battle rifle only and literally no other weapons, every other weapon is still broken.Fucking shithouse dev team.
>>744705215Retcon everything after 3 and start making games set early in the Human-Covenant war
>>744718326This pisses me off so fucking much because now an entire generation of people think the Scorpion in halo 3 just blank shots people when that’s not what happened on the original game at all, you could direct hit people just fine and 343 is just a bunch of useless cunts
>>744693515When has ANYTHING these fuckers made not have a troubled development?
>>744718404Like maybe some books or shit, I don't hear any hell about those in terms of development because it takes nothing to make them. The results, like Glasslands, on the other hand...
>>744718314When it gets worse, and it will, remember how you naive you were in this moment.
>>744718404Halo 4 unironically.
>>744718447The closest thing they got to a W was apparently some skirmish tabletop game called Flashpoint.And I'm sure they'll somehow fuck it up.
>>744718326Not only that>They fix the bug for one weapon and none of the others>Had the audacity to blame Bungie for the bug even though the original game worked fine and 343 were the ones that broke it.
i have a gamepass still working and i played a lot of it. it seemed fine to me on an xbox, but halo's junk. i love the games, but who cares at this point. they're history. this sanctimony around media has to stop. you'll hear marty while you shoot guns, pretending there's more to it is dumb nostalgia mutating into praise. it was a mac shooter, man.
Halo Infinite wasn't that bad.
>>744718664it was worse than you can possibly fathonm
>>744718686It was better than 4 and 5.
>>744718762unfortunately this was not true
>>744693689fired white men aka gamers
>>744718762Halo 4 had a coherent vision despite it being a fundamentally shit one, that alone puts it above every other "game" 343 has shipped.
>>744718864also cortana feet
>>744693515From>adapting it for a modern audienceTo>adapting it for a modern engine
>>744704281dark ages was a step back, too many people cried about eternal's fast pace it seems.
>>7447190312016 was perfect. just make more of that while keeping multiplayer. easy.
>>744719031the nuDOOM devs just wanted to make that faggot shit they're retarded they straight up said in an interview something along the lines of>hurr durr why would I make a lazy sequel I wanna make something newwhen the best games ever made are iterative sequels that improved on the established formula people already liked
>>744704281The hearsay from layoffs and boards implies that it's because Id was too independent and expensive on their own terms, and Microsoft saw it as "overly big expenditures" and slit some throats to rein it in. Off in Frankfurt, running their own tech engine, giving it off to only Machinegames and while others tried to use IdTech no one else got it going well before Id decided to cut off support, they were running on full employees and benefits instead of Microsoft's obsession with 18-month contractors with zero benefits, and the list goes on. So Microsoft functionally disembowled them to curb costs hard and force Id into compliance.343/Halo Studios is so contractor-filled that whoever worked on Infinite isn't around for CER and that was only five years ago. They've repeatedly gutted the studio every year and a half, there's a constant in-and-out circular rotation, but this also means the management just do not get shit done worth a damn and no one has any firm direction, so they just keep rolling with the stupidity. What are you gonna do, lay off people who aren't sticking around anyway? I wouldn't even be surprised if the overall staff numbers are fluctuating every hiring period.
>>744704281I bet 343 is going to get decimated in the upcoming 1600 layoffs
>we NEED new elements like sprint>we think we can just copy over assets>we dont understand timeframes of certain tasks then drop the company who probably knows what theyre doing. we can probably do it ourselves>no wait...we cant>we dont know how to do normal cutscenes let alone real time cutscenes>we dont understand multiplayer, cancel itCase study on the effects of underqualified dei/nepo/resume lying hires that dont care about the IP involved
>>744719493the funny thing is the reaction to sprint. people said it's too easy to skip every encounter, so not only did they nerf it into being almost pointless, but then they added a brand new mechanic: slow down on damage that not only cancels sprint but hitches your movement and your controller aiming every time you take a hit. they literally have no idea what to do with sprint and the movement versus fans being pissy about it that they just took a bat to the player's kneecaps despite the highest base movement speed in the franchise technically.and you can STILL regularly sprint past many flood encounters because their aggression is so nerfed and infection forms no longer explode on contact, only from direct dive attacks.
>>744719031Dark Ages isn't nearly as good as Eternal, but the DLC took steps to rectify that and it was nowhere near as broken and incomplete as any Halo release in the past 15 years.
its amazing with all the studios xbox closes but they keep 343/halo studios on life support despite being arguably the most incompetent of them all
>>744693689the longer you live the more obvious it becomes that the amount of money someone or a company has has zero correlation to how intelligent they are.
>>744693515Go woke go broke
>>744693515They had trouble deciding if the new self insert needed a disability or not or were still adjusting the optimal chin size of Cortana.
this game was the first time anti sprint tards were actually right. there is no point to sprint in this game. you run plenty fast without it.
>>744720878Please, I'm always right.
>>744705215L4D inspired flood survival game where you play an ODST reluctantly teaming up with Covenant trying to escape Installation 04.
>>744722019both of these are bad and look utterly fucking retardedI'd maybe compliment the Cortana design because it's human-made but it looks like dogshit so I can only think "damn, so much wasted effort"
>>744718553This is possibly the most retarded post get ever seen>recognise a game is slop on the gamepass>download and play slop game>”it’s just dumb nostalgia where you shoot guns”>expect other people to be happy with what you call slop
>>744722019no one cares about the opinions of 4fags albeit
>>744722019here is the correct version
>>744722019>Why is this good?It's shit>while this is bad?It's shit
>>744722093it looks alright
>>744722359This one is piss
>>744722379There's a few cutscenes in the game where she turns yellow. You'd know this if you'd played it.
>>744707159why would a AAA studio need five years to do a 1:1 remake?
>>744722442That's the joke
>>744710241You mean the needler? It works fine desu. If you catch an elite out in the open he's completely fucked. If they're near cover it becomes useless though I agree.
It’s weird seeing people blame “DEI” which is a made up term which isn’t even real. Y’all know it’s really because of late stage capitalism right?
>>744700501Dogshit netcode means you'll spend 95% of your playtime staring at a lobby screen, even in peak hours. It's only gotten worse since release.
>>744722585Why not both
>>744695928>"Halo Infinite probably shouldn't have tried to do so many new things at once." -343LMAO, the fuck are they talking about? The game DID LESS then previous games. It did less then their first game, halo 4. It did nothing new except a shitty ubisoft style open world for the campaign which was already done with ODST and there have been plenty of games they could have learned from that did it better. They can't make a Halo game and they even fail at apologizing/excusing not being able to make a Halo game. I really wish I worked a job that lets me fuck up and lie so many times and still get paid.
>>744693515You can get away with enshittification. cost saving and marketing in any industry except video games, because the audience of video games are, relatively, above average IQ males. You can fool anyone else, but not gamers.
>>744722585DEI is merely a marketing stunt to make the company look good and increase profits. Unfortunately they didn't get the memo that it's only for appearances and unironically fell for the meme so now we have women in charge of projects and jeets rotating through the company constantly.
>>744722735Tried is the operative word here. It "tried" to be a halo 5 sequel then a hero shooter then open world ubislop then stay on the old engnie then be on UE5 then on a new engine then...
>id software>released a trilogy of succesfull critical darling FPS games>no development trouble>every release was smooth sailing>they even made their own engine for it>gets 90% of staff gutted>Halo studios/343>have been spewing nonstop shit since 2012>sales dropping with every release>astronomical budgets>devs come and leave like a revolving door>get so lazy they had to switch to unreal engine>somehow allowed to live unscathedi truly dont get it
>>744722585Things like Blackrock, DEI and SBI already revealed themselves to the public. You are supposed to pretend it's a good thing, leftie.
>>744694893how is MCC seen as a failure? theres still tons of players playing on PC today. and its just a huge bundle of all the classic Bungie games, which still holds up to this day.
>>744694139That is the issue. They gutted the studio like 5 times now. Anyone with any talent left the building ages ago. The leftover people either don't care and only in for the resume or depressed as fuck because they know their games will be shit. Campaign Evolved is smaller scale than CE was at the time when it came out and it is still mediocre at best. Romour says it (and like 90% of Xbox rumors are true) they cancelled the next mainline Halo and the multiplayer spin off. They supposed to make Halo 2-3 etc remakes in the next decade but even that is in question.It is fucking over.
>>744695468I think it's more to do with the release window, they couldn't push the game any further back without getting hit by the end-of-year GTA6 rape train or pushing it into 2027 and missing the 25th anniversary entirely.
>>744713082If someone's complimenting CE, they're not talking about CampE.
>>744722997cuz they were already gutted after halo 5. thats why infinite was outsourced rubbish. but MS are retards who didn't learn their lesson and decided to outsource for demake again and surprise, surprise, it's shit.
>>744693515one of the most iconic gaming franchises has been dumpstered and humiliated, hard to believe
>>744722997343 are due to get raped by layoffs as well. Asha announced 1600 layoffs + another 1600 layoffs later in the year, which kind of sounds strange, why wouldn't you just do it all in one go and save yourself the PR trouble? The truth is that the upcoming 1600 layoffs are for studios like 343 and coalition that still had games to ship. They're not getting by unscathed by any means
>>744724240how is it hard to believe? i processed it years ago. halo has been nothing but a dumpsterfuck of embarrassment since 343 took over. they had to change their name to halo studios because 343 wasn't associated with a single good title
>>744695468>original executive producer and head of production was that the sheboon
>>744723238>Anyone with any talent left the building ages agowas there ever anyone with talent in the building? unless 343 just moved into the same building bungie was using...
I want to ask, earnestly, all the people that are upset by 343's continued blunders: do you actually expect anything different? How can you be upset at the studio that's only ever made shitty games for making shitty games? I wrote these people off after Halo 4, and have never been surprised since. The MCC port to PC was a pleasant surprise, but removed even the tiniest bit of reason for me to give a shit- I have the good games, albeit in a worse form for some, what do I care about the dollar-store version?Hand to God I'm not mocking you, I'm just confused as to how you can muster the energy to be mad about this for this long.
>>744724306nigger i dont want them downsized i want them CLOSEDSHUTDOWNhow the fuck can a company look at a history of pisspoor performance like this and still keep this shitshow of a studio going
>>744723193>zoomers don't remember the MCC launch and first 5 years of its existenceit took them years to get it as functional as it is now. it was completely broken with almost no support for the first year after launch. even then they were only remastering games that someone else made, literally the lowest bar possible, and they still couldn't do it without years of fixes and outsourcing to other developers.
>>744704281Doom 2016 was the only actual doom game ghey released. When I play doom, I’m not interested in platforming or shield slop
>>744708671You are the gayest sounding nigger I've ever heard
>>744724889i have literally no experience running a developer and i'm pretty sure even i could have accidentally fumbled into a few decent games running 343>just, uh...make it like halo 3 but with different maps and some new weapons
>>744723193when mcc was released, it came with more halo 3 bugs than previously imagined.
>>744724856this. >if you give a retard a calculator, he's gonna try to turn on the tv with it.
>>744693515‘I heard rumors that there's going to be something Halo on the switch 2 at some point like the legally obligated to do it.Is that true?
Opinions on Pierre Hintze? He was supposedly treated like a savior because he "singlehandedly saved MCC" when all he did was bug fixing, and then they made him work on this remake
>>744725885Just as bad as the rest of them. He's also the one who wanted to add microtransactions to MCC. Only reason that didn't happen is because of backlash. "Saving" MCC isn't praiseworthy, it's the fucking least they could do. The game shouldn't have required saving to begin with.
>>744725885>one guy gets brought in to fix cluster-fuck involving studio with decade-plus track record of failure, and a bunch of outsourced indian devs>he can'ti don't know much about him other than he's not Jesus, so I don't think he had much of a chance of saving 343/Halo.
>>744693515Is there a reason why they couldn't have delayed it by another year just to clean the bullshit up? They've got Gears coming in October, so it's not like MS doesn't have a big game release this year, and all this served to do is cement everyone's belief that the franchise is dead as fuck, when this should have been the start of the comeback tour. Even dedicated Halo channels are turning on it, and everyone I've heard talk about it have been saying "Please just leave 2 and 3 alone". I can't begin to describe how much it infuriates me that Id got the hatchet while Halo Studios and Machine Games somehow skipped through the layoff minefield unscathed. The former has been destroying MS's golden goose for the last 15 years, and the latter's games always sell like vinegar ice cream.
>>744693515Good.
>>744726581You can polish shit as much as you want, but at the end of the day it will still be shit. Xbox as it is currently would definitely not give them more time especially when the development already sounds like a mess.
>>744726581i'm old enough to remember blizzard spending years and tons of money on 2 different games (the thrall point+click, ghost) and then deciding>this isn't up to our standardsand them never seeing the light of day. that mindset doesn't exist in modern gaming. they needed a game to release in this quarter to appease shareholders so it didn't matter whether the game was functional or not. they'll just weather the outrage, fix it later, and then pat themselves on the back for the fixed product. this has happened numerous times over the years>Master Chief Collection>Cyberpunk>No Man's Sky>Every Civilization game since IV
The fuck did they have to develop?The gameplay and AI is taken from reach, everything else from the original Halo CE. They literally only had to make the graphics and steal the models from older halos. Like the work was halfway done, how could they have fucked it up that bad.
>>744693515Most of what I know about Halo comes from lore videos (mostly PancreasNoWork) and Red vs Blue. I get the basics on Elites, Grunts, and Brutes, but I want to dive into the other factions.Anyone have a good lore/setting video recommendations for the Prophets (San'Shyuum) and the bird pirate guys (Kig-Yar/Jackals)? Looking for something high quality that covers their history and role in the Covenant.
>>744726786unless you really care enough about the universe to get immersed in fiction, just read wikis. most video game fiction is total slop. i think the eisenhorn novels are the only gaming-related books i have ever enjoyed.
>>744693515>Halo Studios works with a bevy of external teams and contractorsWhy?
>>744727047because all of the DEI coordinators, artists, and administrative directors at Halo Studios need to hire game developers to make the actual software
>>744726768And the irony of it is that the game is bombing everywhere, in spite of their rush to get it out the door to appease shareholders. It's why I respected David Zaslav's decision at WB to forever shelve the Batgirl movie when it was essentially done, because he recognized that it was so shit that it would have caused major long-term brand damage.
>>744727047Microsoft/Xbox doesn't want to pay benefits by having permanent employees, so they use contractors and then boot them out the door when they are no longer needed.Part of the reason why 343 had to ditch Slipstream Engine was because so many different contractors worked on it, and nobody passed on documentation, that 343 couldn't even use the engine.People really aren't joking when they call 343 an adult daycare because the likely only permanent employees there are HR and the related departments.
>>744727146>major long-term brand damage.Good news is that the Halo brand has already been super damaged for a long time, so this does absolutely nothing but once again confirm how utterly shit 343 is.
i'm worried about the halo 2 remake. if they're reusing all the animations, models, AI, and music from prior games, then it's literally just gonna feel like CEmake again, only the arenas you fight in look different. imagine going from the CE to 2 back in the day. all the differences were insane. now imagine jumping from CEmake to 2make. it'd basically be a DLC rather than a sequel. plus unlike CEmake. halo 2 anniversary isn't half bad so why wouldn't i just play that if i want to play a remastered halo 2?
>>744726768Modern studios still cancel games sometimes. Sega canned the abysmal, horrific Hyenas game right before launch even though they had spent 4000 trillion billion dollars on it.
>>744727146yeah it doesn't make sense to me either for the reasons you mentioned. i feel like we've gotten to the point where the money people behind gaming don't even care about image or the games making money, because then they can just claim it as a loss for tax shenanigans. there is so much money behind gaming that it's way more (((complex))) than>make good game>get good reputation>profit>repeatthat used to define all of the best developers
>>744697797That wasn't done by 343. Most of that work was done by Saber and the Dig site team. It also came after years of the MCC being a broken piece of shit (still not completely fixed).
>>744727303true but that was also a live service game so that was just cutting their losses. i doubt they would have cancelled a single player game they put that much money into.
>>744727376Shareholders are really the worst kind of people. They really don't care about what kind of product the company puts out, or really even knows what it is, but what they expect is the line to go up every single quarter and if the line doesn't go up then they want blood.It's like the one Nintendo shareholder call where one fucking shareholder had the audacity to ask why they were talking about video games so much, like the guy was shocked that Nintendo wanted to talk about their upcoming games or how games had done over talking about how they were going to squeeze customers for more money.
>>744694893What's wrong with the MCC?
>>744727660yeah one of the only companies that consistently does what i mentioned is fromsoftware, and what are they always hearing from their shareholders?>hey your beloved genre-defining games don't make enough money as we think they could >you need to make some changes!they literally do not care about the quality of games.
>>744693515Whatever, shut them down already, they’re incapable of making anything decent.
>>744727660If the line goes -1, -1, +200 then he’s just been made a fool of. He would have bought at -2 and then had a better return, someone just got one over on him. That can never happen.But if the line goes +4, -100, -all of it because the business shut down, that’s awesome. He sold at +4 because he knew they’d just burned through it. He got his, what happens after isn’t his problem.
>>744693515Impressive how despite 343's rebranding to Gaylo Studios, they're still the same shit company as before. Might as well just shutdown the studio and fire every single fucking person in that company. It might as well not even be a company if all they're going to do is just hire DEI trash and pajeets to do low quality work as evident by Halo: Campaign Evolved.
>>744693515I really appreciated the devs decision to release the more expensive version of the game early so I could see that it looks like hammered shit and cancel my naively placed preorder.
>>744727047In theory you can sub out things like modeling and coding to contractors that specialize in these things. This means you don't have to go through the ass pain of finding and groveling for top talent. But in practice there are lots of nuances that can affect quality as other anons have said. Big ones include the lack of ownership, competing contractors undermining each other, and poor coordination.
>>744727376It's such a weird balancing act, because while shareholders (especially the big money guys who actually get a seat at the table) are largely just focused on "NUMBER GO UP BRRRRRR", they do also prod developers to actually get shit out the door. On the opposite end of the spectrum (just as shitty in a lot of ways, imo) is the completely privately owned Valve, which hasn't mad a game of actual note in fucking ages, and just seems content to coast on Steam money, buy yachts, take Hawaii vacations, and occasionally fart out a tech demo with a Portal skin when a new piece of hardware releases.
It would be really cool if modders could remake the in-game engine cutscenes. The original cutscenes relied heavily on the npc animations from the gameplay and I'd imagine it would'nt be too hard to port the animations to the Unreal slopengine.Then other modders could go crazy changing how Cortana looks or how anything else looks and keep it consistant during the cutscenes.
>>744728423I could make more faithful recreations of the Halo 1 cutscenes in Halo Custom Edition than anyone at Gaylo Studios.
>>744693515>Troubled DevelopmentThey literally fucked up everything.All they had to do was FUCKING take Combat Evolved/Anniversary Edition Combat Evolved and heavily improve the graphics.Meanwhile not only the graphics are shit, they added stuff that wasn't in the OG Halo CE, but they also cut out stuff like multiplayer.And yes, they were doing an exclusively multiplayer Halo game...which I would ask WHY? Why not include the damn multiplayer into Campaign Evolved?But the damage is done and I hope Asha simply shuts down Halo Studios and outsource the IP to someone else. Saber Interactive seems like a good choice. id too, but sadly id got gutted, so Saber is the only good choice here.
>>744701931Or even simpler.Simply take the original Combat Evolved and mod it to work on newer hardware.
>2021, Microsoft buys Id>Microsoft fires all of 343 and declares their games noncanon>Assigns Halo to Id from now onThat was all they had to make a lot of money, it really was that simple.
>>744728423There's a mod on Nexus that at least improves Cortana's appearance in cutscenes, I'm assuming through AI sloppa.
>>744727847At launch it was plagued with bugs, broken or missing features, crashed constantly and dropped connection every other match. My favorite bug was the unbalanced teams. You could queue up for 5v5 slayer and end up in a 4v6 for no reason. Most of this has been fixed, but there is still one big issue that remains. Spawn points don't behave correctly on a lot of H1-3 maps.
>>744728372yeah obsidian is the same way. they release a buggy shitfest (new vegas at launch) and blame the producer for rushing them but if they don't get rushed they sit around doing nothing or just work on other projects with your money (like sega found out with alpha protocol).it just sucks to read that companies like fromsoftware are getting shit from shareholders because it proves that there is no value in quality games if they don't sell like FIFA.even hollywood understands the concept of>prestige movies may not make much money but they win awards and help our reputationbut that seems completely lost on gaming shareholders
>>744705161>hurrr instead of building up teams, lets just use contractors for everything>why do people not like our buggy, unfocused gamesMicrosoft moment
>>744724686Yeah, Halo 4 had the best graphics on X360. It still looks incredible in the MCC though the very high resolution reveals many of the trickery they used to make it look better than it is. There is a documentary somewhere about the black magic they had to do to churn out the maximum of the system. I would argue even Halo 5 looked great. Now they can't even ship a complete product.
>>744724856Yeah because people operate on the capitalist assumption of:- if someone makes a mistake they are incentivized to learn from it and do better next time- if someone keeps failing they will be cast aside and more competent people will take over their place>in general things need to get better because capitalism forces competition and clear cut competition is offering something betterThe problem is after a market produces "too big to fail" companies these principles won't be true anymore because incompetent hacks begin operating on plutocracy and/or nepotism. Basically Xbox learnt nothing in the past ten years and they began to force everything with money. The moment they finally realize this won't work the division will be killed overnight.
>>744727174Sounds like a bad business decision
>>744725532The only legal obligation MS has is for Call of Duty. They don't owe Nintendo anything else.
>>744712164I wouldn't say tiny when it's not much shorter than vanilla Gens. Vanilla Gens took a few hours to beat and Shadow is around that length as well.
>>744723193It came out in 2014 and was a broken mess until 2019
>>744701693System Shock Remake, but that game went through a huge amount of dev hell cause of that retardation. It's a miracle it came out as good as it did.
>>744730935worked on my xbox one
Literally just hire a dozen diehard fans who understand the game, give them some UE5 workshops, have them run H2R through Claude and it would be a better remake than this pile
>>744731132The Halo 2 remake will be mostly AI coded
>>744693515>Halo Studios works with a bevy of external teams and contractorsLMAOjust hire a full time team you cheap bastardseven if hypothetically you imported a whole team of jeets working for slave wages, they'd probably eventually do a better job than your stupid ass fucking ragtag team of contractors and outsourced teams, simply because a full time team working on site will know everything about the project and share ideas dynamically
>>744731043And a lot of shit didn't work for me on xbox one. Corrupted saves, audio drops, and controller vibration getting stuck on requiring a full restart to get rid of, to name a few issues that I had.
>>744703086no friggin way
>original halo 3 was 5-6 gb in size>halo 3 in master chief collection is about 100 gb>expect insane details and visuals>lol nope still low polywhy 100 gb then?HOW
>>744693515>343 and Bungie are now competing to see who can tank fasterThis is amazing.
>>744731512isn't 100gb the entire size of all the games combined? still seems like a lot to be honest for such old games
>>744706782And firing half of ID's staff for no reason will take even more time away from their own IPs.
>>744731592H2A is probably half that shit with the CG cutscenes
>>744706379>Either a brand-new alien alliance is there (contrived) aSpace pirates and scavs. I'm sure forerunner tech is worth bank. And it would you give a reason to fight against not only every alien species in the game, but against human enemies too.
>>744731592The main menu is 30gb. H3 campaign is almost 7gb, idk about multiplayer
>>744731692>for no reasonThey had every reason. Id employees cost 5 to 10 times as much as contractors who can do exactly the same job with exactly the same quality. Why should they pay a premium for the same work?
>>744705598>. At the end of Halo 3 humanity is on the brink of extinction, they only have a single planet leftWhen was that stated? Humans have colonies in every direction, the Covenant didn't wipe them all out.
>>744731824>The main menu is 30gbjesus christ how horrifying
>>744731250For the ultra rich, screwing over the "little people" is part of the mindset. Even if keeping a stable team would be immensely more profitable, hiring contractors to avoid paying benefits gives them the feeling that they're saving money.
>>744731835Your troll post would be funnier if that wasn't exactly what they teach students in MBA schools who then go on to run companies into the ground.
>>744700501absolute dog shit netcode that teleports your bullets and grenades to anyone else looking down at the same time as you.
>>744732173pwn3d
>>744724856I stopped caring about the future of Halo after 5. I'm content with MCC and just peek in every so often to see what 343 is fucking up.
>>744731887Lord Hood himself says it in the cutscene right before we go to the ark, he wants to make a final stand and says that Earth is all we have lefthttps://youtu.be/jBiHMsKX1AM?si=82su73QSWExEBdXy&t=938
>>744731986At least companies recognize what’s going on and don’t promote those people to ruin more businesses.
>>744700501>>744732173>>744732242not gonna lie, felt great when it was utilized effectively.
>>744722474this. they didn't even need to build their own engine. just more ue5slop
343 know they messed up and will learn from this. The next Halo game will be awesome!
>>744732396Is it like that for all the multiplayers, or is 2 more egregious?
>>744732387If that was true, Xbox and Playstation wouldn't be in the sorry state they are now.
>>744732504I don't recall, I mostly played Halo 2 online and those videos were from 6 years ago. I THINK it was mostly a thing in Halo 2, and it's possible that's it's been patched, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>7447325043 probably has it the worst with the fucked hit registration but it's still the most popular one
>>744711908Nobody complained when Avellone portrayed the Jedi that way
>>744732504it only happens in 3 now. 2 got hotfixed over it decades ago.
>>744732364I don't remember this scene from the original (and the graphics look much nicer than I remember too) but it's been nearly two decades.It's easily interpreted as Earth being the only major planet and concentration of forces they have left. Especially with so many of the colonies having been in an open state of rebellion until the Covenant showed up and forced them to put hostilities on hold.
>>744693515Halo has been the Sunk Cost fallacy for a long time now. >Next game will definitely turn a profit, we're banking on nostalgia!>It doesn't>Next game will definitely turn a profit, we're banking on nostalgia!>It doesn't>Next game will definitely turn a profit, we're banking on nostalgia!>...
Halo “fans” deserved this for rejecting the TV show. You had a smart, tightly written cinematic masterpiece with snappy dialogue and sophisticated characters made for a mature audience… and threw a hissy tantrum because, uh, the rifle doesn’t look accurate to the game you played 20 years ago?This is justice.
i understand microsoft wants a return on the money invested, but they are like the biggest company in the world. if the team needs the time to deliver a good game, give them the time to make the game man
>>744710690The endless were shit, and the banished were from a top down RTSAnd the multiplayer was ruined by the cash shop
>744732975bait used to be believable
>>744732636That specific bug was only in halo 2 and got fixed in may 2020Most of the games STILL have tons of problems with online co-op though. Desync, progress not saving, crashing etc.
>>744695468>ACK!er canceled
>>744733025WTF were the Endless anyway? The story builds them up, then explains and shows nothing.
>>744693515>issues with using Unreal 5Then like, don't lol? How did all those hundreds of employees not think that simple thought?
>>744733510Apparently, that was all resolved in a book, so like the Didact, and like the rebellion of the "Created", another dead end plotline.
>>744732950Even if they still have a few hicks in the woods on some planet 50 gorillion light years away that doesn't explain how the UNSC is suddenly back in fighting condition with the largest and most advanced warship they've ever built after just 4 years. Remember that Reach was the heart of humanity's military industry and the ending cutscene shows humans back on the planet in 2589, while the war ended in 2553.
>>744733627What the fuck were 343 thinking making their books actually important.
>>744733713>343>thinking
>>744733713It was cool early on when it was just the Nylund books filling in the blank spots between the games in cool sci-fi military space opera thrillers that stood pretty well on their own, but I bailed after that.
>>744696296Is that a fucking Andor poster?
>>744693550>Rebs Gaming went on to allege that overall mismanagement created multiple obstacles for the team and even led to the cancellation of a multiplayer Halo projectThat checks out, Microsoft management is almost always too retarded to handle anything.
>>744733990You need a tuber to spoonfeed that obvious info? Grim!
Is the best way to play halo 1 MP MCC or do people still fuck with custom edition?
>>744722442and in the original she was green
>>744702941every game has ended with 343 going>we fucked up, sorry, we'll learn from our mistakes next timedespite their constant failures, microsoft just gives them a free pass.
>>744696296>Boone
>>744733854yeah nigga they got good taste.
>>744702941>Looks at sales figuresYour info's out of date. Charlie Brown's not kicking anymore.
>...Had a Troubled DevelopmentSeeing this headline a lot recently. Maybe AAA studios are just incompetent?
>>744693515The studio is getting closed.
>>744730442I rather we had something like Halo 3 again.Halo 4 had an unstable framerate, especially in Coop, I played around December of the release year and it would reach the 20s or maybe even less with a friend in the latter chapters.They had to despawn guns to save up on resources, when something I liked in past Halo games was being able to go back and pick up something else.The LOD, even and especially on the MCC where you are playing at 4K is laughable, you can see the low res assets, is quite glaring on the mission where you got the elephant.
>>744734962Nah, they'll just gut another mildly successful studio they own for the resources to try again.
>>744711813no, they own the franchise, bungie handed it over to them when they went independent. originally they were going to just license the game out to random studios, like how we got halo wars. but bonnie ross wanted to have something she could claim full control over as an up and coming executive in microsoft, she wanted to be the george lucas of the halo franchise, so she got some bungie employees on board and convinced microsoft to form 343i that will do nothing but create halo games while also making a bunch of books, tv shows, movies, ect.
>>744693689Have you seen the people working in these offices? They do 20 mins of actual work all day and call off work whenever they can(pto, leave off absence or mental health days) and get nothing done for years. If a game does come out like campaign evolved, it's because it was rushed by the very last minute.Gaming today is fucking over.
>>744693604Halo 5 showed a spark of brilliance with its multiplayer. I fucking loved Warzone until it became P2W.
>>744702630star wars is up therethey produce B tier tv shows to sell plushes now
>>744705215close the studio, reboot the IP and open a studio either in europe or china
>>744700081I will never understand how using an engine that requires royalties forever is the cheaper option instead of having an in-house tech team. I cannot imagine epic still having their hand in my pocket 15 years after the game came out, poking me for pennies.
>>744733627>>744733713I wouldn't even mind if they filled in the gaps by explaining it through the course of the game, but they only explained a fraction of it in Infinite.Even an "earlier in Halo" blurb or video at the start of the game would help.
>>744693515>HALO Remake Had a Troubled Development,no surprise there
>>744733660They're also on a war footing and have been so for decades, the ship was probably in the works for years.
>>744707310The Studio represents a fundamental problem with core Microsoft design philosophy of "outsource all of the work".
>>744722019ai jeets are really desperate when they have to make up shit like this.
343 releases halo reach on pc>unlock system is somehow WORSE than OG reach>Zero bloom DMR starts for every match to the point where BTB is just crossmap sniping and even tanks have no chanceActual dogshit company.
>>744736137a truly incompetent studio that couldn't figure out how to implement the original progression system and replaced it with something everyone considered worse
Why did it take so long to remake the old game if you have all the codes and the engine can't you just reference that?
>>744736137>Zero bloom DMR starts for every match to the point where BTB is just crossmap sniping and even tanks have no chancenever listen to fans
>Waited 5 years since Infinite>2 seasons of a shit show since>Fuck up the remake>Mattel's Brickshop only set is a warthog (megabloks is dead)>Jazzwares don't ship to my country (I didn't even know they still make Halo figures)>No new game for at least another 5 years>Steve Downes is 76Just let go of this franchise anons
>>744736942translation:>we couldn't just copy and paste the old system and it would have been too time-consuming to remake it from the ground up>so we just made something half-assed insteadimagine literally admitting that you couldn't be assed to put in the base amount of effort into remaking a game
>>744737004It's not always that simple.That said, the people doing this were also managed by some of the most incompetent leadership out there, so it was likely to take twice as long and still come out unfinished.
>>744702630I like Halo and don't like Star Trek, but I feel like both franchises are neck and neck for most raped.
How do you fuck up a halo CE remake? The game is literally already designed. All you have to do is take what's there and recreate it with better graphics. You don't have to invent anything new, everything is already planned out for you from 25 years ago.
>>744737454i like both of them and it's honestly a tough call between the two, but i feel like mickey mouse has thoroughly out-raped them both with star wars at this point...which is impressive since they've had star wars for less than than 343 has had halo.
>>744731592It's awful.343 can't optimize for SHIT.
>>744702630Arguably yes, especially when it comes to lore. I don't know of any other franchise where it was so suddenly handed over to entirely new people who then instantly started making fanfic-tier bullshit that completely rewrote and invalidated what came before. It's so annoying because OG halo lore is very fascinating, but nowadays you have to sift through a layer of bullshit from 343i that's been slathered on top. Especially everything regarding the retcon of humanity no longer being forerunners.
>>7447376792A makes sense since it's the only post-360 game but how the hell is Halo 4 so fat 343 are a joke
>>744728850All they had to do was port MCC to the PS5
>>744737557Are you saying they shouldn’t have changed all the original voice acting or the weapon sound effects?
>>744693515Western studios are always whining instead of making an average game, they’d rather make a mediocre one.Then they’ll whine about low sales and no interest even though the studio chose the demographic they were catering to.
>>744693515The PC version of this game is a crashing piece of shit. But as a pirate I just deleted the game. McDonalds is hiring, 343. Halo peaked 20 years ago with Halo 3, time to bury this franchise.
>>744738189343i is dead set against doing what people want.
>>744738534Westerners ar used to someone bailing them out so they’re always willing to make garbage since they know they’ll get paid anyway and someone will foot the bill.
>>744702630Try splinter cell>how do we make this about black women
>>744693689>How can billion dollars studios be so fucking retardedDo you work in a modern office environment? Most of my day is filled with middle managers finding ways to give me more work while also making the solution more difficult. People who have no business making decisions are somehow making important decisions.
>>744702630WoW is the worst of it
>>744737812I think it's just uncompressed/higher res stuff. Looking at the folders, the maps are at 9.34GB which is already larger than the entirety of the original game, sound at 5.59GB with half of that being other languages, spartan ops videos at 4.38GB, then terminals and cutscenes take up about 4GB
>>744693515>this shit gets shilled from left and right>finally releases>it's a buggy steaming pile of shit>a-actually the game had a troubled development!!!!!Didn't read past your OP subject.
>>744739379WoW was always trash
>>744702941Do we though?
>>744739003I would say tom clancy in general.
>>744736137Bloom was godawful. The only good thing 343 ever did was remove it.
>le "bait"
>>744693515>>>>>>outsourcingDid they mean what I think they meant?I always thought you anons were just memeing.Are things really as dire as Anons back as far as 2015 would say?Why didnt anyone listen?
>>744740013It made the DMR even stronger than the CE pistol and rendered all other non power weapons useless.
>>744717669>Asha needs to shut down 343 studios and give the halo ip to idShe killed id.
Played it on legendary with some old friends on gamepass. I loved it just to be able to play with them, but it was quite a shitshow yeah. And legendary was piss easy now, mostly because when someone dies it takes like 2 seconds for them to respawn. In the classic games you had to retreat quite a ways away from enemies for it to be safe to respawn, but now you respawn as soon as you're like 10 meters away from enemies so there's almost no risk in rushing forward
>>744740136>It made the DMR even stronger than the CE pistolYou're exaggerating. The DMR had the slowest TTK out of every single human precision weapon in the series up to that point. Even in ZB it takes nearly 2 full seconds to kill someone. CE's pistol killed in just over half a second.>and rendered all other non power weapons useless.Why are people still pretending that the DMR wasn't the best gun in vanilla too? The TU unironically buffed a bunch of weapons and allowed them to actually challenge the DMR. The AR got its melee combo back, the Needle Rifle killed in one shot less and had no bloom even inn 85% modes, and the magnum killed in 4 shots before they nerfed it after like a week.When are you using any of those guns in vanilla Reach over a DMR and why?
>>744710930>Implying act'maam won't give this a glowing review
>>744725885sounds like a retardthe digsite jannies asked him for wages and he responded by rambling about how he was born with a gun pointed at his head
>>744740524Even xhe is shitting on the game lol
Bump limit.
>>744725885>all he did was bug fixingMCC got a lot of new features after coming to PC. Stuff like increasing the firefight player cap, adding all the missing Halo 3 weapons and enemies to ODST, overhauling Halo 3 forge to have some Reach functionality, and porting over a ton of pieces to both Reach and 4's Forge. They were doing a legitimately good job for a while, then Infinite came out and they had to stop because people wouldn't play the new game if the old one kept getting more features lol
>>744693515why does it have to be like that? why do western studios keep sabotaging themselves? why can't you idiots get your shit together and start making fun games ppl want to play? do you really wish for the future where only EU and Asia are making high quality AAA video games and you'll just hold the money bag? this halo was the fucking easiest win you could score and yet you still managed to fumble it.
>>744693689>hire only foids and pajeets>give them ai tools as a means to accomplish something>task them with remaking halo 1>they spend billions to shit out a snoy movie game interpretation >game fades out of existence after 2 days post launch The bonus story was fun to shitpost about at the very least.
>>744693515how many times are people going to give 343 money? lol
>>744738648Luckily they are getting gutted.Got the info just now.Hoping this will end up well for everyone.
>>744693515>Pee Poo Pee Studios making shit once again
