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What were they thinking with the combat in this game? It's just completely mindless button mashing with no depth at all. I know it was made by MMO devs but still. This sucks.
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>>744695360
You control the buttons you press.
Some dumbass "needing" to play in the optimal way that makes it unfun is making the choice to ruin the game for himself.
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>>744695584
Bad argument. If it's in the game, it deserves to be judged.
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>>744695630
If you say so.
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>>744695360
They didn't give a shit about it. They just wanted something to release between FF7 remakes which is why they created a Z-team of FF14 castoffs to make this instantly forgotten turd. Cid was based though.
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>>744695584
Anon the combat is literally just spamming basic attack and cycling through skill cooldowns. It's mindnumbingly shallow which makes it boring. It's a shame too because it all looks very good.
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Every FF has bad combat. 16 is the best it's ever been.
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>>744695584
There is no optimal or suboptimal way to play because the combat gives you no options to play with
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>>744695901
FF never had good combat until the 7 Remakes. Now they have had good combat which makes 16 releasing between the two and having such a stripped down barebones combat system even more confusing
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>>744695584
>If you play optimally then it's your fault it's not fun
What the actual fuck is wrong with you

It really just comes down to the game is too easy. I think I died exactly once from blatantly not paying attention and when I reloaded the boss was already at half health.
They went out of their way to make this game mindless and flashy, they didn't want anyone to actually be challenged.
My guess is that they wanted to make this a brain dead movie game to try to appeal to a wider audience but it failed at that too.
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>>744695901
>no builds
>no weapon variety
>no playstyle variety
>no weaknesses
>no resistances
>no elements
>no status effects
>just spam x
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>>744695360
>What were they thinking with the combat in this game?
What if Devil May Cry was garbage?
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>>744695630
Wrong. You're not Total Biscuit. You're no Youtube critic. You're likely not even media Literate to make the calls. Entertainment is infallible and perfect the way it is. Cynicism isn't based. You don't matter.
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Seems like they only cared about the boss fights and everything else was secondary
what else can be expected from mmo tranny devs
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>>744696154
FF16 isn't an RPG it's a linear action movie game so of course it isn't going to have anything an RPG would have. It barely even has stats
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Alt system:

You lose exp when you attack.
Slowly you whittle down abilities from a vast repertoire. Eventually all you have left with is walking. Walking toward objuctives gains experience. At full you have enough for several weak attacks. Not using them wiser. Like enemies exhausting themselves beating you. Time it so hits hit somewhere else, like another side of the face.

More combat the more exp you have later, ambushes, and just more, trying to make you attack and lose exp. Get to the end unable to attack. They're overpowered as you were at the start, so long as they don't move. Take some hits, move away, their attacks decimate others trying to attack you.

They can't move. You carry them. They use their attacks on who tries to attack you.

You get away and start to earn experience going to different areas, and huge amounts doing something decent. They become able to walk. You both fade into a journey of saving others.
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I agree. Then I put on the retard rings, which makes it even EASIER, and just spammed my way through it. Superficial spectacle. Like every FF from 10 on.
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>>744696357
All the women in this game have such squinty eyes
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>>744696207
>devil may cry with skill cooldowns
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The game peaked at the Bahamut fight, it's literally all downhill from there and the ending is typical Japanese stupidity
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>>744696506
DMC has no depth so might as well throw in a loot system too.
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I like turn based and action combat. I don't know why Square so completely and utterly abandoned turn based, but I don't mind action if they do it well. I hate 7 Rebirth as a game but find the gameplay quite good. 16 just felt like it was missing too much. Interesting gear, progression, and most importantly party members. I would like to finish it one day but holy shit the PC port is cheeks and runs like dogshit on my midrange rig.
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Mid's idea to hide her airship plans is so fucking weird to me, it's not like you're going to be the only person in the world to want to build an airship
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>>744696632
>I hate 7 Rebirth as a game but find the gameplay quite good
If you like the gameplay how can you hate it as a game?
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>>744695360
Enemies have too much fucking health in this game. I think this is one of the only games I've played where it actually made my thumb hurt from the endless fucking button mashing
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>>744696712
NTA but the story, atmosphere, characterizations, and art direction are all worse than the OG FF7 so your experience can still suck
t. someone that played Remake all the way through for the combat but hated everything else
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>>744696712
It's one of the most padded RPGs I've ever played, filled to the brim with useless, filler side content. And I don't like the character + story changes overall. I mostly finished rebirth because I liked remake so much, but them jumping the shark with the kingdom hearts shit at the end of rebirth completely ruined a game I was already fairly burnt out with.
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>>744695360
>game where you control the ice powers of Shiva, fire powers of Ifrit, etc
>combat has no elements
So what was the fucking point of even including that shit then? It's all just different colors of the same spells.
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>"BEARERS could be here." Anabella thought, "I've never been in this kingdom before. There could be BEARERS anywhere." The cool wind felt good blowing through her immaculate, blonde hair. "I HATE BEARERS." Anabella thought. Elitism and tyranny reverberated her entire being, making it pulsate even as the Gautland Rouge circulated through her powerful, thick veins and washed away her (merited) fear of children born with the ability to perform magic without the use of crystals. "With a chocobo, you can go anywhere you want." she said to herself, out loud.
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>>744696154
Yoshitpiss didn't want any of that stuff included because he says it makes games less accessible. He literally said that in an interview
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>Intentionally Vague Anime Asian/White Characters: Rydia, Palom, Porom, Fusoya, Bartz, Lenna, Galuf, Faris, Krile, Locke, Shadow, Strago, Relm, Gau, Setzer, Cloud, Tifa, Vincent, Squall, Zell, Selphie, Laguna, Zidane, Garnet, Eiko, Lulu, Paine, Lightning, Vanille, Fang, Noctis, Prompto, Ignis
>Explicitly Asian Characters: Yang, Edge, Cyan, Yuffie, Rinoa, Tidus, Yuna, Rikku
>Explicitly White Characters: Cecil, Kain, Tellah, Rosa, Cid (IV), Edward, Terra, Edgar, Sabin, Celes, Banon, Aerith, Cid (VII), Quistis, Irvine, Ward, Steiner, Vaan, Balthier, Basche, Penelo, Snow, Hope, Gladiolus, Clive
>Explicitly Black Characters: Leo, Barret, Fran, Sazh
>Explicitly Polynesian Characters: Wakka
>I think this guy is Indian but I'm not sure: Kiros
>NA: Mog, Gogo, Umaro, Cait Sith, Vivi, Freya, Quina, Amarant, Kimarhii
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>>744695360
Honestly all they needed to do was add an elemental system, some build variety and a simple party system.
Throw some gear custom and then 16 could've been a pretty good acton RPG.
Like the story is good, the power system is cool but it doesn't fucking matter because the gameplay is button mashing skill spam DMC
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>>744695360
>Morbol casts Bad Breath
>doesn't poison you
Slop
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>>744697221
This jealous degenerate cunt is beyond loathsome and I want to put through the most mind shattering torture until complete organ failure.
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>>744698356
That's how you know she's a well written character
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>>744698356
I want to subject her to hours and hours, days and days of sweaty mind breaking, Earth shaking sex in all conceivable positions with my enormous BBC(Big Bearer cock) until she is no longer capable of being evil and racist anymore.



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