your 4:3 kino handheld
Thanks, but I'll be sticking with my Retroid Pocket 6 12GB.
>>744706207>16:9cmon manwe're not out here playing psp games
>>744705894I already have a Retroid Pocket 5 so I'm good, thanks.
Why not a deck?
>>744705894expensive as fuck, that shit better run switch games at the very least
>>744707260xbox hueg and three times the price.
>>744707261My pocket 5 runs 90% of switch games flawlessly. Reckon the nova should manage similarly but you wouldn't want to play switch on 4:3 anyway.
>>744707261>>744707606>did not bought before the price hike kek
>>744707805I already have a 4:3 chinkheld for retro games, I'll only get a new one when it's $50 for 16:9 switch.
Why specifically get a 4:3 screen when you can just get a 16:9 and enable borders or just have black bars? That way you can play whatever?
>>744708914The only reason I can come up with is to make the device smaller.
>>744705894The Thor has a 4.9" usable area in 4:3 and the Nova is only 4.5." Kind of pointless for me. Also I like clamshells a lot more so hoping they make a Flip version of the Nova.
>>744708914Because most good games are 4:3
>>744708914just play your 16:9 slop with black bars instead
>>744707260>why not lug a stack of bricks around
>>744705894Are there versions without sticks? Its fucking awful trying to put consoles with sticks in your pocket
>>744705894Who hype?
>>744713081There are already like 527 DS chinkhelds. How many more do you need and why?
>>744713208I have 0. Why do you have so many?
>>744713241Why don't you have one if you are so hyped about the release of yet another one that is just about identical to what is already on the market?
>>744713081What's the difference between this and the previous SP?because I've got the old one, and it's still a pretty cozy little gizmo.I don't really see how extra power could help it considering the lack of analog sticks kind of limits it to PSX and prior.
>>744705894redpill me on phone controllers like the gamesaar
>>744713081>720×480 >no cartridge slotI like a clamshell, but they're still lagging behind Analogue everywhere it matters.
>>744705894Can't wait. Ordered mine a few days ago. Bought the black one and some GCN buttons so I can make pic related.Gonna play a shit load of PS1 games I missed out on as well as some PS2 and GCN.
>>744705894I already have the 2S, 4Pro, and 5. I'm not sure what this would add; I've barely even touched the RP5 because I prefer the RP4 and 2S.
>>744708914Everything I want to play is 4:3, obviously. I'll wait till PS3 and X360 emulation is better on ARM and until the hardware is better and cheaper before I waste my time and money on a 16:9 device.
>>744708914Bars don't bother me, but your point is adjacent to something else, that being these higher end devices far outclass anything that ever really relied on 4:3 aspect ratios. I think this is where the RP2S (and similar devices) actually got the price-to-performance-to-AR about right. The Nova obviously has a bigger and nicer screen, but I'm not sure that warrants its existence. If you aren't already drowning in handhelds like I am it's probably a worthy pick-up, but most people would probably be better off with something else.
>>744713287Because i dont have one yet. You feeling okay anon?
>>744713287NTA, but I don't have any and have no clue where to start. What's the best one with a GBA SP form factor? Or maybe GBA Micro. I just want to play GBA and SNES games.
>>744705894Whats the best of these that can emulate PS2 perfectly at 60fps and cost under $100?
>>744715679lol100$ will get you n64 emulation not ps2
more like retard pocket nova lol
>>744715663You should check out the retro handheld thread on /vr/. They have links to comparison sites and lists and shit.
>>744715663Well yeah if you want a gba sp-like to play gba and you don’t already have one the rg sp is a no brainer
M64 worth it?anything similar to play my old gba or gbc games?I still have my consoles, but It might be a good gift for my cousin
>>744705894>12ms of latency while playing fucking NES GAMES with runaheadyeah, no thanks, cant wait to see this be yet another chinkheld rotting on people's shelves cuz you niggas don't play games.
>>744716731Fitting reaction pic
>>744716731linux truly is superior
>>744715795Wow so technology hasnt improved in the past decade? Grim
>>744716731thats pretty good considering the og nes hooked up to a crt had 33 to 100ms of end to end latency depending on the game
>>744706515>we're not out here playing psp gamesI am.It's also all right for 4:3, not ideal, but the black front looks good in person, better than picrel.
>>744719321>AKSHUALLY THE NES HAS ALWAYS BEEN LAGGYkeep telling this to yourself
>>74471970733ms isnt laggy retard thats pretty fucking fast
>>744715074The thing you're missing is PS2 games. The Nova is superb at those, while cheaper stuff struggles.
>>744705894>widescreenretarded. who the fuck is playing psp on a chinkheld instead of literally every other retro console that uses 4:3 or similar ratio.
>>744719679what kind of retarded non gamer needs a visual reminder of where playstation buttons go.
already own the ideal chinkheld, I'm good.
Is it worth upgrading to the Thor from the RP5? I'm not getting the PS2 performance I wanted from the RP5 no matter how much I tweak certain game settings. I'm gonna give the 5 to a friend if I do.
>>744720114just buy it broyoure not poor, right?
>>744720153I don't want to buy it if I'm not gonna get noticeably better performance out of PS2 and up
>>744719881A straight white male. Your nigger console hasn't had a single good game in 20 years, btw. And I didn't grow up with PlayStation when it was last good (PS2).I want to enjoy PS1 and PS2 games now since I grew up with PC games and missed out on some kinos. However, your moon runes make no sense.Also, why do PlayStation buttons have the glyphs on them if they're so obvious? Check mate, atheists.
>>744720192buy buy buy!
>>744719909Would have been my ideal handheld if only it had video out
>>744720272I'd worry about my prematurely declining cognitive health if I were you
>>744713081The 35XXSP has a 4:3 screen for 4:3 consoles and a default overlay for GBA games that gives them the correct aspect ratio. The 34XXSP has analog sticks and the same screen as the RGSP. What is the point of this thing? They should just make the 35XXSP with sticks.
>>744720387>you're over 14 years old>that means you have dementiaYou will immediately cease and not continue to access the site.
>>744720192PS2 is nearly flawless on the 8Gen2.
>>744720734Thanks
>>744720695Lol i was there for 2 generations before the PS1. Enjoy your ugly stickers if you can't memorize the placement of 4 buttons and i hope you get a job in an air traffic tower and make it on the news some day.
>>744719731actually you know what, my bad, i actually meant 12 frames, which is 50ms.when emulation nowadays achieves 1 frame of lag, ur just getting 11 frames added thanks to android.vote with your wallet and avoid android like the fucking plague.for reference https://youtu.be/usQQ42egzus?t=1627
>>744720918>i was there for 2 generations before the PS1Some of us grew up with PC instead and developed skills apart from memorizing the placement of Fork/Circle/Box/Tent.I guess you scratch off the glyphs on all your controllers as soon as you buy them to make sure you don't accidentally miss out on a chance to remember the glyphs.By all means, though, keep malding that I bought a sticker for 20 cents and haven't bothered to take it off.
>>744721157what do you mean by "one frame"? if youre running at 30fps then one frame would be 33ms, at 60fps it would be 16ms etc. In the video you provided, hes running a 60fps game with the screen set to 120hz, which means the renderer is showing each frame twice. Supposedly hes getting 50ms end to end latency with runahead, which is pretty good considering snes hooked up to a crt also has around 50-80ms~ of end to end latency, see pic related. (however you really need a screen tester for a test like this, just counting the frames isnt really enough)
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>>744706515>we're not out here playing psp gamesOr Wii games with widescreen patches..Or WiiU games.Or Switch games.Or PS2 games with widescreen patches.Or PS3 games.Or X360 games.Or PSV games.Or any non-gacha game that's gotten a 16:9 Android release.Or...
>>744707261It does. But the aspect ratio and resolution mean that it will be blurry and have black bars
>>744721490the point is this:NES, in this case, is being run through meme options that are supposed to give you better latency than on real hardware.this, of course, isn't happening because android has incredible amount of overhead and is an awful platform for games.now imagine on games WITHOUT runahead, imagine PCSX2 which is already a laggy piece of shit on windows.its simple, linux is the future on these devices, as much as i hate it, and the chinks will never learn their lesson cuz the people that buy these devices collect them rather than actually use them.and when i mean 1 frame i literally mean 1 frame at 60fps, retroarch runahead on windows can make FB neo run that fast.
>744705894>4:3>kinoYou can play 4:3 games on 16:9 without problem.The same isn't true for 16:9 games on 4:3 screens.I don't know why woud you shoot yourself on the foot by buying a handheld with a limited catalog of games to play, but that's your own business.
>>744721814look man i think you got things mixed up. I prefer linux on chinkhelds too but i got my own reasons for that, and input lag isnt one of them. On modern android, coupled with options like runahead, you're gonna get better end to end latency than real hardware, thats what the facts are telling us. Dont know where you are getting this "overhead" thing from, Android doesn't really have this mysterious "overhead" you're talking about, at least not on modern devices. I'm not sure where that idea comes from.Maybe you're thinking of the forced VSync behavior that some non-gaming apps use, which can add a couple of frames of latency. But that's a property of the rendering pipeline, not Android itself.
>>744722176the facts are right in front of you, why can't you explain why its 12 whole frames compared to a regular x86 platform running retroarch with runahead?keep in mind that this wasnt even a professional test, usually with these amateur tests you get results in way smaller ranges, and yet its still 12.here's similarly conducted tests.https://youtu.be/_qys9sdzJKIhttps://youtu.be/Sw0hbW-05k0
>>744721713I guess you could buy that retroid dual screen accessory for those, but then you'd have a retarded Frankenstein handheld with a cable hanging out of the back, so you might as well just get one of those clamshell handhelds at that point for the best of both.
>>744721825no one needs more than ps2
Anyone have experience with Rocknix? Does anyone know how good the PC game compatibility is compared to the likes of Gamehub (lite) and Gamenative?
>>744706207I got the RP5G2. Should have just gotten the 6.
>>744705894i already have an rg35xxh which doesn't have nigger stacked shoulders complete with cancer lumps and is thus actually pocketable, so
>>744723229For future reference, all Linux/Android game performance depends on your chipset, DXVK version, and Vulkan driver. Gamehub & Gamenative use the same DXVK, the rest is up to you.
>>744708914because unlike you, i leave my house
>>744719737Almost every PS2 and Gamecube game works fine with widescreen patches, and you also gain a better aspect ratio for Wii and PSP if you care about those. Not that there's anything wrong with playing GC and PS2 games in 4:3 (most people did).
>>744723249What difference does it make, really?
>>744722970Dude you really need to stop with making comparisons with "frames" and start talking in milisecondshttps://youtu.be/_qys9sdzJKI>In the description: This video was taken at 240fps on an iPhone, and slowed down further for demonstration purposes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw0hbW-05k0>at 1:07 "I've recorded the footage at 60 frames per second...."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usQQ42egzus&t=1627s>at 24:31 you can see him recording the screen at 240fpsTherefore these cant be directly compared at all, if you measure end to end latency in milliseconds you'll see that I'm right. Also 12 frames at 240fps is about 49ms fyi
>>744723417I wish I didn't :(
>>744723475Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and above is much better chipset and has active Vulkan driver support by Valve And others.
If I wanted to play PSP or DS games I'd do it on the original hardware which is not rare nor expensive. And I definitely wouldn't buy an android system when my phone is probably more powerful anyway. A 4:3 linux system for emulating retro games is ideal
>>744721224>insteadMy primary gaming platform was a pc as well.>memorizing 4 symbols is a skillAlarmingly zombie-tier brain cancer
>>744723695Retarded reddit post.
>>744723475>>744723587I'm the RP5G2 Anon. And the fact that I would have to wait maybe a month more because the RP6 was just released but I could get my RP5 shipped immediately. So dumb, I was drunk when I bought it anyways so it was a surprise at the fucking post office when I finally did receive it. I don't hate it tho, great system. I got the yellow model with the official handles. Looks sexy AF. I can't remember the name of the program, but I hooked up my Steam library it plays Steam games (through emulation I guess) like Brotato/Vampire Survivors and more at full speed.
>>744705894>Order transparent purple>They make that the next-to-last variant that they send out
>>744719909Is that a romhack? I don't remember that location in crystal
>>744723587I have the original RP5 and it already does just about everything I could ask for. I hate the shitty glass front, but that applies to the RP6 too. I kind of regret getting it since I still prefer the 4Pro.
>>744723570conveniently skipped over this part huh>Count slow-mo frames (use math to compare to 60fps at realtime) on a computer.if you watched the vid you can see hes not counting every single frame of the recording too.its ok, if you dont feel it yourself thats absolutely fine, but this is an issue that i would very much like to see tackled before i even think about getting another chinkheld.
>>744723814You're the reddit retard buying chinesium android emulation handhelds
>>744724285this is a trans post
>>744708914The switch to 16:9 as a standard aligned almost perfectly with the downfall of gaming. At the same time 16:9 became standard, we started getting "games as art" faggots popping up. This was a direct pipeline to the troonification of video games as we know them today.
>>7447145824pro ice blue is pure kino. It is like a smaller switch lite with more versatility
>>7447245364:3 is the white man's screen ratio
>>744705894Looks nice. Other than emulation, what can I run native on this? Probably the decomps of Mario 64 and OoT? Doom?
>>744725197>Probably the decomps of Mario 64 and OoT? Doom?Yes. There's an Android port of Star Fox 64 too that's pretty good.
>>744714582Sounds like you understand why glass fronts are stupid.>>744723229I use it on RP5. Performance is generally worse, but frametimes feel better. Heard some games actually run better, but none of what I tried. Helps that you can throw any ARM version of Proton you want at it. Fan is constantly ramping up while using Steam, but while it's annoying at first it's safer with how hot this thing gets under FEX.
>>744713081I've never been crazy about SP accuracy, I actually think it being thinner would hinder ergonomics. Hear the buttons improved from the 35 and it's the same as the 34, but I'm not in a hurry to try. Only real upgrade for me would be the screen, as the 35's is ass.
>>744721825I don't want to emulate anything modern that is 16:9 on a handheld anyways.
Does anyone actually have an analogue pocket?
>>744725184>4:3 is the white man's screen ratioIt's the new Ultra IMAX format everybody goes crazy for.
>>744725872I do. Better than anything running Android, obviously.
>>744718109It has improved a ton, but inflation and AI RAM bloat has made everything with a chip too expensive. Technology peaked in 2016.
>>744713081I'm going to wait on this to decide which one I get.
>>744723931its definitely a hack, thats not what kris' sprite looks like in crystal. Im guessing pokemon brown
>>744723782>Alarmingly zombie-tier brain cancerFunny, because that's how you behave.
>>744726846Konkr...Konkr...
>>744724285They're built better than 90% of American products. Original hardware is cool, but depending on the games, not much cheaper. A DS + HGSS is going to cost as much as a Thor
>>744726874>no uSure showed them
>>744727015>themfaggot
>>744707260same reason why i carry a phone around and not a laptop.
I have the retroid pocket 2, which in hindsight, I shouldn’t have gotten. My hinge still works fine but it the fact that it could break at any moment turns me off. I haven’t used it in a bit though. I do love that it can run GameCube games at least.
>>744726863might be prism
>>744707260Because people want handhelds, not gaming laptops you have to hold.
>>744708914because a 4" 4:3 screen is as big as a 5" 16:9 screen showing 4:3 content.which is all the content you're going to be playing on a retro chinkheld because its a RETRO handheld. 99% of the content is 4:3 or close to it
>>744727005I do have an anbernic 351 for GB/GBA and I like it. But Vita and N3DS with custom firmware already runs everything natively with SDs, I don't see how the new emulating knock offs would be any better unless you got majorly priced out
>>744705894>another product to spend money on and then collect dust while you continue to play on your pcThis one will be different though, right anon?
>>744727191Them was referring to the whole world, to whom you keep exposing your own stupidity comment after comment
>>744727005DS isn't American.But the problem with the Thor is it can't actually play all ds and 3ds games. I guess it's fine if you aren't planning on playing 1/4 of the libraries, but for me it's a non starter.
>>744706515Why not? PSP has a ton of great games on it. A 4:3 display only makes sense with something that caps out at N64 and PS1 emulation.
>>744708914a smaller device is a more pocketable device
if your device isn't completely pocketable (as in fits in standard non-children's non-cargo shorts non-clowncar pockets) then it isn't a handheld, it's a househeld
If you want cheap, real retro gaming (up to ps1) just get any 35xx (H is best) for $50. If you want anything that can play PS2, get like an old RP4 for $100. This shit is not complicated, you fags.
>>744732383Is the DSiXL pocketable?
>>744719909But that's not a Pocket Flip 2
>>744732974no ds of any kind is pocketable, especially not the modern chinkheld ones
>>744733046Why?
>>744733046lol
>>744733046Ayn Thor is pretty pocketable