>Nintendo was unable to make thisStill crazy to think about.
Gamefreak, you mean gamefreak and not Nintendo.Nintendo could make a better pokemon game themselves, hell, Nintendo could put Monolith software to build a humongously large pokemon game and it would have higher quality than gamefreak's shoddy output. Even the third parties developing the mobile pokemon games have more quality control than gamefreak.
>>744727218>>Nintendoand your age, OP?
Base building and crafting shit is so 2016.
>>744727218complacency is supposed to be punished. glad to see it finally happening to the pokemon franchise
>>744728878If Nintendo could, why don't they?
>>744730680And to think that's all it took to btfo gamefreak. The Pokemon Company had every opportunity to make this game at any time, and chose instead to let gamefreak fart out unplayable, zero effort garbage.
>>744728878And yet they didn't. Hypotheticals mean nothing.
>>744730680and it's still fun
>>744730680it's more fun than rust, subnautica, conan exiles, and valheim imo, i don't care for pvp sweats and the other ones were just lame or dull in some way
>>744732115Because the make loads money with little effort.
>>744732707>it's more fun than rust, subnautica, conan exiles, and valheim imoIt's because of the automation and the fact that it's a decent single player experience. As it turns out, a lot of people like to build up a sweatshop and see their indentured workers produce shit for them.
>>744730680The Japs are a decade behind the rest of the world, their big ARK fad was in the 2020's.
>>744732881colony management is a great mechanic that every survival crafting game needs in some aspect
>>744733027conan slaves should've done more shit like carried water jugs for you and waiting by your throne to fan you instead of being your retard hulked up bodyguard, watching the pals run around is more enjoyable imo even without the big naked tiddies
>>744732831>little effortExplains Nintendo perfectly.
>>744732831And then have a mental breakdown when someone else makes loads of money with moderate effort
>>744727218>unableThey didn't want to and had no need to.Subhumans bought 20 million copies of this shit and defended nintendo online. Why would they ever put in any effort?
>>744733746That's a good game though.
>>744727218If Nintendo “made” the Pokémon equivalent to Palworld you’d just bitch that they turned Pokémon into TOTK-slop
>>744733746Oops, my bad gamers.28 million copies.
>>744733746>FilenameThere are better looking N64 games out there
>>744733746>>744733604
>>744733774Heh.
>>744733873>>744733746Conkers Bad Fur Day looks objectively better than this in every conceivable way except draw distance and resolution. And I'm not exaggerating even remotely.
>>744733963So?
>>744734048Sonic 06 looking good
>>744727218>>Nintendo was unable to make thisThey did already though.Palworld plays just like Legends Arceus.
>>744734354But legend arceus is a boring ass dogshit "game" while palworld is actually fun.
>>744734025So they should be embarrassed
the seethe in this thread alone is amazing
>>744734558Why?
>>744733604Pokemon main moneymaker is merch. Little Timmy and his mom wouldn't know which one is pokemon and which one is a pal if you put their plushie side by side. That's why they don't care about other monster catchers because none of them looks like pokemon unlike palworld
>>744734591Because their game looks worse than N64 titles despite having an unlimited budget
They already tried to make an open world action pokemon and fartceus was their best effort.At least they tried lol.
>>744734708>despite having an unlimited budgetSource?
>>744734649A fine theory, but none of Nintendos lawsuits actually involved plagiarism at all. They were all on the basis of patent infringement regarding capturing creatures with spheres.
>>744730680This. If I had to play this genre I'd go back to abiotic factor and conan exiles.
>>744734537That's because you haven't played either game and just want to shitpost.
>>744734741>>744734591>>744734025>>744733774I'm trans, btw. Hope that doesn't change anything?
>>744734935So no source?
>>744734649>Little TimmyWhy are all Palworld shills jeets?
>>744732115How does the ownership situation of Pokémon work? I dont think Nintendo has the ability to just make any Pokémon game they want (and GameFreak certain isn't going to let then make a game that would upstage them)
>>744727218Not crazy at all. Nintendo has been making shit games for children since forever.
Pokesisers, Palchads are making fun of us again...
>>744733746Every develop at Gamefreak should be drawn and quartered
>>744735013why are all tendies delusional?
>>744735161Why?
>>744735386Retard
>>744735142>throwaway geometry at some random corner of the map still looks 10x better than main pokemon setpieces and cutscenesdamn
>>744735402We don't sign our posts here.
>>744734649>Little Timmy and his mom wouldn't know which one is pokemon and which one is a palThe mom, sure, because she knows nothing about it, and certainly doesnt care to know. But how would a kid not know? Were you that stupid as a child?
>>744735386Because they are subhuman and risk tainting the gene pool
>>744735430It really doesn't.
>>744735465Very poor attempt at a comeback. Wouldn't you like to try again?
>>744727218To be honest, it’s a dumb idea
>>744735523I can see it with my two eyes thanks to the screenshot you provided, just compare it to >>744733746
>>744735570Why?
>>744735631No, i don't think so.
>>744735507No I think that anon is right to a certain extent. I disagree with his overall statement, but compared to when we were kids, there are over a thousand pokemon at this point and I don't think an 11 year old could point out every single one in a crowd. Pic related, or honestly a LOT of palworld designs, would EASILY slip through the cracks. That being said:>>744734817
>>744733746even excusing the janky graphics, the "biomes" look like something out of a jeet's first steam game
>>744734817Nah, I think he's partially right in that Nintendo might feel threatened by Palworld potentially eating into their merch. It's likely they knew they wouldn't be able to successfully prove copyright infringement in court, so they tried to get them on patents instead. The fact that Nintendo didn't go after them until Pocketpair teamed up with Sony Music to grow the brand is a bit telling.
>>744735734Kids ask for merch of characters they like. They're not going to settle for characters they dont even recognize just because they're that desperate to own something pokemon related.
>>744736093Eh, if you establish it as an artificial environment meant to hold creatures from disparate parts of the world, having a bunch of specifically defined "biomes" in pizza slices is reasonable enough.The problem is that this premise is a little lazy as the environment for a fucking Pokemon game, even a DLC of one.
>>744736339it's just so painfully simple, it's the kind of thing you'd do for your first ever game, not from the highest profit franchise in the world
>>744736943Post someones first ever game that looks like that.
>>744736943Your first ever game, or maybe the player's home base, or maybe an enemy base or lategame dungeon. I think it could work in plenty of contexts. The problem is specifically that this is the main play area for an entire campaign, even if it's a DLC campaign.
>>744737052no
>>744737138Gee, i wonder why.
>>744734817Because pal designs are legally distinct enough so copyright lawsuit would definitely fail. Nintendo also lost copyright lawsuit against Kaga btw, that's why they do patent lawsuit instead because they won patent lawsuit against shironeko
>>744734979That anon is wrong. Nintendo is struggling financially.
>>744737468By that logic Konami would be the best Japanese gaming company lmao
>>744737512Nah they just have money while nintendo is holding a cup and begging for money.
>>744728878>hell, Nintendo could put Monolith software to build a humongously large pokemon gameExcept Monoloth only puts out JRPG shovelware.
>>744732115Why don't they? More like "why would they?"
>>744738123That would be an upgrade for Pokémon.
>>744738123That doesn't describe any of their output unless you're the type to think the term "JRPG shovelware" is redundant, which renders your opinion completely worthless.
>>744738392>unless you're the type to think the term "JRPG shovelware" is redundant,Yes, it is.
>>744738538So your opinion is completely worthless, thanks for confirming.
>>744738736>you're not allowed to believe objective facts because....?
>>744733746>JUST PIRATE/EMULATE BRO IT IS THE SAMEStarting to see how gamers live in multiple realities.Scarlet/Violet look bad, but to achieve this level of fuckjank you have to use a shitty emulator on a shitty PC and the post is just more disingenuous sugar for poor people who will never own anything.
>>744735386Because they are not indian
>>744738909>reeee why won't you just lie down and accept the "objective fact" that your dirty pervert Japanese games are cringe!!!Anime website.Go ahead and spam soijaks and frogs if it makes you feel any better, I know your kind likes that.
>>744739604>ad populum fallacyYou are still black
>>744739709No, the opposite if anything. This is a website for people who don't buy into the ad populum fallacy that anime and games with "too anime" of an aesthetic are "cringe shit for perverts". Yours is firmly the normalfag opinion.
>>744739604>anime website means you HAVE to like every single thing that came out of japan>>744739840It's cringe shit because it's low quality and made to be mass produced for the masses. That's the only reason why they push waifus so much. Come to think of it, Pokemon's biggest appeal, on 4chan at least, is because everyone lusts over the female characters and mons. Hmmm.......
this is a Pokemon
>>744739920>if you don't automatically hate JRPGs that means you must like everything that comes out of Japan!No. If you think someone has to love everything from Japan indiscriminately to that JRPGs aren't 100% shovelware, you are a complete fucking retard.
>>744740015I'm so sorry.
>>744727218Nintendo didn't make a shit game? That's good
>>744735067Nintendo has no control over development of the games at all. They can “provide advice” but that’s the limit if GameFreak doesn’t care. Also people forget that the lawsuit was filed “on behalf of The Pokemon Company”.
they don't have to and still make a glorbillion rupees thoughbeit
>>744740126>JRPGs aren't 100% shovelwareExcept they are. Every single Xenoblade thread has always just been a porn dump. that should already be a red flag.
>>744740015Looks like the average Square-Enix fanboy.a.k.a a retard
>>744740184I want to go back to the era where game freak had Iwata to swoop in and fix their shit. Motherfucker coded Gen 1 battle logic on the N64 solo in a week because game freak had "lost" 100% of the documentation on the battle system and its code immediately following the release of Gen 1.
>>744740250>every JRPG is shovelware and if you disagree you're just le weeb who automatically likes it because Japan>my proof? Threads 3+ years out from the most recent game are about characters and not gameplayLmao. ACfag?
>>744740126xenoblade fans indeed have no discernment, but that goes for any console exclusive fan
>>744738123ah yes, the schizo
>>744740342>my proof? Threads 3+ years out from the most recent gamelol you guys have done nothing but have porn dumps the MOMENT a game came out. Don't spew that bullshit at me.
>>744740437Holy shit you actually are ACfag. Lmaooooo.>no it really is a porn dump! Look! People aren't having seizures at a guy for posting boobs!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>744740250>>744740437-> >>744701094you sure are not trying very hard today, did you spend all your energy in the FE threads yesterday?
>>744740560>>744710739>>744710256>>744709781>>744702862>immediately flooded with waifushitHAHAHAHAHAHAThank you for proving my point.
>really want to enjoy this game but hate survival crafting shitFeels bad. Every time I unlock a new building material I feel myself losing interest.
>>744740658it's absolutely a rust/ark clone at it's core>go search mines for chromite to make this metalhow about fuck you
>>744740656>122 replies>3 posts with fanart and one with merch on an imageboardLike I said, you're not even trying.
>>744740656goalpost moving AND coping?kek, where's the porn dump you faggot?
>>744740815>>744740893And why didn't anyone call out the porn spammers? Where's the integrity in the game discussion? Why does nobody care? Gameplay enthusiasts should be angry at non-gameplay ruining a thread.>merchMerch is not video games.
>>744740656>LOOK! WHY AREN'T THEY GOING INSANE OVER PEOPLE POSTING BOOBS??? THEY'RE ALL COMPLICIT IN WAIFU GARBAGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T VIOLENTLY ATTACK IT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITYACfag please go, this is embarrassing.
Zoroark
>>744740658>>744740701Sorry anons, they made this game specifically for me.>Ah a new metal unlocked>Lets see what we can make and if I need to update my crafting benches.>Solenne has completed my thermal cores? Excellent, time to make that new gun.>*Stare into the distance from my mountain-top base built only for views and not practicality* I wonder what is out in that region. I cannot wait to explore it.>I should check on my second base to see if my Solenne breeding farm is done.
>>744740926Why doesn't the series have any redeeming values? Why do people only care about the porn? If you actually liked the gameplay, then you should be demanding that the disgsuting fanservice be removed. It does nothing to improve the game and only makes it worse.
>>744740924uh oh, someone's having a melty
>>744740924>And why didn't anyone call out the porn spammers? Where's the integrity in the game discussion? Why does nobody care? Gameplay enthusiasts should be angry at non-gameplay ruining a thread.Because there are no "porn spammers". A thread is only a porn dump when it is 0% gameplay. Zero.
>>744741031>Because there are no "porn spammers". That's because you claim that posts like "I want to sniff Mythra's feet" count as gameplay discussion.
>>744740991>If you actually liked the gameplay, then you should be demanding that the disgsuting fanservice be removed. It does nothing to improve the game and only makes it worse.Please stop embarrassing yourself. Nobody in their right mind actually thinks this. Gameplay does not oppose characters do not oppose gameplay.>BUT THEY TALK!Something happening that isn't gameplay is not opposition to gameplay.
>>744741117I do not. But nobody thinks those posters existing means gameplay discussion hasn't happened except you. That's the problem.
>>744740273Someone bailing GameFreak out again will only compound the issue. Iwata was right to BTFO them once, but they didn't learn their lesson.
>>744741132>>744741207There are literally entire sidequests that are just exposition dumps, so you can watch the waifus dance. How the FUCK is that adding to the gameplay? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-eipdzpv74And you have people praising this as high quality.
palworld is so good that devotees need to constantly tell me its good and never ever talk about how it's good, just that it is and pokemon sucks
>>744741406Not every part of a game has to add to the gameplay for the game itself to have gameplay or for the gameplay to matter.
>>744741554>video games don't need gameplay in them
>>744741504Keep ignoring the other thread if you wish
>>744741504there have been constant palworld threads discussing the game for like 2 years you retarded nigger, no one's here to appease and entice your dumb ass
>>744741619>if any choice is made for any purpose but to add gameplay then all the gameplay is unnecessaryNo.>but it might as well be!!!!No.
>>744741727>if any choice is made for any purpose but to add gameplay then all the gameplay is unnecessaryYes. Every single part of a game should service the gameplay. There is no exception here.
>>744741856Then no game's gameplay has ever been necessary in your book. Thanks for playing, this medium clearly isn't for you.>what? But my favorite game is pure gameplayAnd it's never made any changes purely for cosmetic appeal? None at all? LMAO.You still haven't explained how someone posting porn undoes discussion about gameplay by the way. No, making insinuations about the intent of everyone in the thread based on the fact that they didn't go insane at the sight of someone posting boobs is not an argument. Unless the gameplay discussion is somehow undone, it happened.
I want to see a nintendo stab at the survival crafting genre. they have an IP for just about every flavor of game. but they haven't done anything that falls into that category.
>>744741504This is the jeet thread where nobody has played the games but wants to shitpost anyway.
>>744742008>And it's never made any changes purely for cosmetic appeal?Letting you build a chair for your house in Minecraft is not the same as inserting a 5 hour cutscene about your waifu crying about her feelings.>You still haven't explained how someone posting porn undoes discussion about gameplay by the way. It's demonstrating that they don't care about the gameplay. Especially if someone was to post and say "we should get rid of the fanservice and cutscenes, so there's a better ratio of gameplay." A gameplay enthusiast would jump at the opportunity to implement this kind of mindset. A porn addict would get angry at it. See how it works?
>>744735631You CAN'T! Because it's NOT THERE!
>>744742261>Letting you build a chair for your house in MinecraftTerraria has had many visual updates over the years. Guess that means its gameplay was unnecessary this whole time! It should've just been a sprite viewer if they wanted to make prettier sprites.>It's demonstrating that they don't care about the gameplayGameplay discussion is not undone because you think the person who had the discussion was faking. If they posted accurate information and/or reasonable opinions, they discussed gameplay. Their "failure" to react to posters you personally disapprove of in the same way you would does not render their gameplay discussion nonexistent.Someone doesn't have to exclusively like gameplay to like gameplay.
>>744742581>Terraria has had many visual updates over the years. Now show me the 50 hour cutscene where the waifus talk about their feelings.>Gameplay discussion is not undone because you think the person who had the discussion was fakingYes, it is undone. It's inorganic discussion, bordering on shilling, because they're not actually interested in game discussion. Ask them to stop jerking off to porn of the characters for five seconds, and their entire facade breaks.>Their "failure" to react to posters you personally disapprove of in the same way you would does not render their gameplay discussion nonexistent.Their gameplay discussion is rendered nonexistent if they react to actual critique with hostility. Which is what I offer.
>>744735332>>744734649Fellow paljeets! Don't reveal yourself that easily!Kindly remember the player count is disappointing Sony, we can't be that rash!
>>744742873>Now show me the 50 hour cutscene where the waifus talk about their feelings.You first. Any Xenoblade, go.>but that doesn't literally exist!And you said that making any decision on grounds other than gameplay made the gameplay no longer matter. Terraria has made decisions on purely cosmetic grounds. Fuck, they changed a pet because the guy whose joke it was got canceled. If that makes the gameplay not matter, then the gameplay doesn't matter.>Yes, it is undone.Not physically possible.>they're currently jerking off to porn because they aren't reacting to it the way I demand!Proofs?>"actual critique" is telling someone they're a porn addict because they don't want to kill everyone in every gameACfag, please stop embarrassing yourself.
>>744727218>Palworld was unable to make thisLike seriously, where the fuck are all the sexy palkids? What the fuck were they thinking? They lost billions of sales by being retarded.
>>744743520>You first. Any Xenoblade, go.the moment you start playing, there are constant and uninterrupted cutscenes. GG.>Terraria has made decisions on purely cosmetic groundsEverything in terraria has practical use. Even furniture items that you don't use for NPC housing can still be sold off. JRPG cutscenes don't even have that viability.>"actual critique" is telling someone they're a porn addict because they don't want to kill everyone in every gameYes? Am I supposed to disagree with this? Killing my enemies is more fun than listening to therapyspeak and trauma dumps like this was an episode of Steven Universe.
>>744743604What about Dazzi?
>>744743823>no cutscene posted>not 50 hours>not talking about feelingsWanna try that again?>Everything in terraria has practical use.They updated sprites for things whose practical use was not changed. And added new music. Those are decisions made on purely cosmetic grounds. Thus, the gameplay doesn't matter, by the standards you laid out.>If you don't want to just kill just kill just KILL then you practically want an episode of Steven universe!No. There are many positions in between those two extremes.
>>744744002>wanna try that again?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90xxsZvn7dw&list=PL_sYhAj0WXRPQf_RR-km-i34wPrQrhncNOkay, show me when the gameplay starts. All I see is cutscenes and hallways. >They updated sprites for things whose practical use was not changed.Still practical. Most importantly, not shoved in your face via obnoxious cutscenes. It helps that they're all free additions, instead of being paid DLC, so I can easily ignore what I don't like.>If you don't want to just kill just kill just KILL then you practically want an episode of Steven universe!Anon, I play video games to conquer, not to sit and be lectured. Come to think of it, that's kind of why I prefer Palworld to Pokemon. It's fun to murder my enemies and see them laid before me.
>>744743520what's with this poopdickschizo in every single thread tangentially related to nintendo
>>744744218>look! Cutscene!Okay cool. That's' one of three. Where's the 50 hours? Where's the waifus talking about their feelings?>it changes gameplay for them to update this weapon's sprite!No it doesn't. They made changes for cosmetic purposes. You said that was enough to prove the gameplay doesn't matter. Don't deflect to DLC when your claim was that making a change without any intent for it to improve the gameplay proves you don't care about gameplay.>If I'm not conquering then I'm sitting and being lectured, those are the two possibilitiesWrong.
>>744744648ACfag is an actual specific guy that a few Nintendo shills have decided to adopt as one of their bogeymen.You can recognize him by his hateboner for any amount of story, claiming that stopping to talk in any capacity is tantamount to the game making him watch 30 hours of the game's main girl doing a pole dance while she cries about her feelings.
>>744744907>Okay cool. That's' one of three. Where's the 50 hours?The game's total run time is 50 hours. JRPGs don't have gameplay, so the most you get is cutscenes masquerading as gameplay. Kind of a flaw of the genre.>No it doesn't.Visual clarity is important. Cutscenes are not.>If I'm not conquering then I'm sitting and being lectured, those are the two possibilitiesPrecisely.
>>744745042The famitsu schizo is literally just one guy and a couple of orbiters, pretty easy to notice him since he has a very limited vocabulary and interests.
>>744745187>ACTUALLY... NONE of the gameplay is gameplay!Cute. Wrong, though.>Visual clarityShow me the visual clarity in the update they gave to the mini Minotaur.>PreciselyWrong. Objectively wrong and beyond retarded.
>>744727218>>Nintendo was unable to make this>>Still crazy to think about.what being allergic to innovation does to a company
>>744740015Honestly looks like something from Spyro 3.
>>744745573>Cute. Wrong, thoughSitting in one place and watching animations play out, with little to no interaction whatsoever, reminds me way too much of a snoy ""game"". Unless you want to argue that nu-God of War is a masterpiece in game design.>Show me the visual clarity in the update they gave to the mini Minotaur.Better flying animation, so it doesn't look buggy.>Wrong. Objectively wrong and beyond retarded.i disagree. I even gave you an entire xenoblade sub quest that was just wordswordswords. Not even an attempt at pretending that there was gameplay.
>invent pokemon>first games have SOUL>investors say make visuals better>add color and more pixels>investors say make visuals better>2D pokemon peaks, just need to keep up this level>investors say make 3D games>uhhh that's not really what we do>investors say make 3D games>game freak tries to make a 3D games with the same deadline and budget as the 2D games>of course it looks like shit and still sells millions>investors say make 3D games
>>744745927>literally anything that isn't pressing buttons is the same as anything else that isn't pressing buttonsWrong.>Better flying animationPurely cosmetic change. So the gameplay doesn't matter.>any words = lectureWrong.
>>744740015Whenever I look at the weakest palworld designs I think they could do better, but then there's always pokemon to remind me that it could be so, so much worse and we should count our blessings.
>>744746424I disagree.
>>744746520Then you are wrong. Glad we could clear this up.Remember, next time you want to make a retarded claim, that hyperbole is a two way street.
>>744743604Sis, your dazzi, venusy, solene?
>>744746746>then you are wrong.Nah. I don't see it. Nintendo and gamefreak and monolith cannot make a good JRPG, because there's no such thing as a good JRPG. The exceptions are so few and far between that they're statistically irrelevant. When a genre does not care about gameplay, then it cannot be good.
>>744734615 Someone post the xerneas fairy attack animation please
>>744743604If they added palkids they'd have to deal with people bitching about child slavery and child labor
>>744746883Your standards for "caring about gameplay" are wrong. I demonstrated that Terraria, a game you constantly insist cares about gameplay, has made plenty of changes on cosmetic grounds. You claimed that making any decision on any grounds but pure gameplay improvement means you do not care about gameplay. That calls your standards into question. Well-considered standards don't need major amendments and exceptions to fit your favorites. They should just fit.>but my standards were actually about muh 50 hour talks about the waifu's feelings!Which no game has unless you consider any cutscene to transmogrify the entire game into that, which is completely delusional.
>>744747610You tried to compare them changing a completely optional side item, that doesn't harm the gameplay in the slightest, to a JRPG shoving cutsceneshit in your face every 5 microseconds. No, they will never be equivalent no matter how much you try and push it. If I don't like a tiny cosmetic change to the Tartar Sauce item, I can ignore it. I can't ignore stupid cutscenes and waifushit being shoved in my face, because the game will keep pushing them on me, even if I constantly try to skip them.
>>744746928XD
>palworld niggers talking about their game and not trying to get into a dickwaving contest with a vastly superior franchise their bootleg fag game is aping off of not once have I seen a single palworld thread that wasn't either coomerbait or this shit lmao
>>744747810No. If gameplay is inherently at war with every other element of a game, then it is so in Terraria as well, and Terraria has consistently looked flashier and overall more polished over the years. By process of elimination, the gameplay must be "losing", and redigit isn't doing shit about it, which means he's complicit and has hated gameplay the whole time.>but I can ignore it!If dev intent matters, then it matters.
>>744747984>PalGODS are on-topic chadsBASED
>>744748090>No. If gameplay is inherently at war with every other element of a game, then it is so in Terraria as well, and Terraria has consistently looked flashier and overall more polished over the years. By process of elimination, the gameplay must be "losing", and redigit isn't doing shit about it, which means he's complicit and has hated gameplay the whole time.That's complete nonsense. The graphical changes are so minor that they can be constantly given away for free. And they've been given away for free for 15 years. So clearly it's something they can do on a microscopic budget, while they polish the gameplay.Meanwhile, Xenoblade 2 couldn't even be bothered to give you Switch 2 upgrades without paying an extra 10 dollars. AND you still have to pay for Torna the Golden Country separately. So that's a full priced game, plus DLC, plus tip, plus tax. all because they wanted to emulate hollywood. They had to keep raising the price to pay for their cinematic voice actors and HD graphics (which still look ugly, by the way).Where are their priorities?
>>744748608>cosmetic changes are fine here but nowhere else because they've proven they make them in addition to gameplay changesAnd that is the case for every fucking game short of uber-pretentious artistic experiences that the board was pretty united in dunking on like mixtape.>but look at what they're doing with Xenoblade 2 specifically!All bad! None of it the fault of the very concept of games containing something other than pure gameplay. Sexy girls and cutscenes do not inherently mean ANY of that shit. Cave Story has sexy girls and cutscenes, is it a fucking movie game?
>>744732115>make low effort game>people buy it and expect more low effort gameswhy would they rock the boat by making a better game and then creating a continued expectation of better games?
>>744743604Why have a kid when you can catch a pink cat and a depressed looking lad instead?
>>744749000>cosmetic changes are fine here but nowhere else because they've proven they make them in addition to gameplay changesWhen they aren't hampering the gameplay, yes. Stop ruining the gameplay, and maybe I will be happy to tolerate a cosmetic change here and there.>Sexy girls and cutscenes do not inherently mean ANY of that shit. When they're literally dragging me through sidequests, just to spew exposition on me and ask me to care about their fucking feelings, when they're just pixels on a screen, yeah it is bad.
>>744749371>Stop ruining the gameplayImpossible when you consider the cosmetic parts of a game like its story and characters to "ruin gameplay".>yeah it is bad.If you cannot distinguish between Cave Story, Xenoblade, and Zelda, you are simply profoundly retarded. There is no other way to put it.>but they all ask me to care about the feelings of pixels!No they don't, they just ask you to be interested in seeing the story through. I enjoy being involved in progressing a fixed story to its end state even if I'm only interested in the world and find every single character's actual writing "meh" at best. Because that's video games as a whole.
>>744727218Until Nintendo makes a remaster of Duck Dodgers and the Rugrats boardgame game they can go fuck themselves.
>>744746870None of those are human kids, retard.>>744747464Somehow not a problem for nintendo.
>>744749614>Impossible when you consider the cosmetic parts of a game like its story and characters to "ruin gameplay".Because they are piled onto you, without your say or input, like a dump truck piling trash onto you.>If you cannot distinguish between Cave Story, Xenoblade, and Zelda,Cave Story doesn't require 100 dollars to enjoy it, because the dev clearly didn't care about the story or graphics or waifus enough to make them the focal point of the game. Miss me with Cave Story+ though, that POS demake. The others can go in the trash.>No they don't, they just ask you to be interested in seeing the story through.Zelda and Xenoblade try to accomplish this via endless therapy sessions, so it's very hard to care about them in the slightest.>I enjoy being involved in progressing a fixed story to its end stateI enjoy actually interacting with the gameplay. If the story acts like my input doesn't matter, then the game is shit.
>>744749684Do you not know how licenses for IPs work? That isn't something Nintendo can decide. Bitch to WB and whoever currently own Rugrats. Also how good are the games that you would name drop them randomly like that? I'm a sucker for board games.
>>744750158>they are piled onto you, without your say or inputMeaningless. Literally just spewing words to try and make out a difference where there isn't any.>cave story is better actuallyOh, I thought it was a movie game because it had sexy girls and cutscenes? Is it disqualified only because you remembered it was actually free? That shouldn't matter at all. Retard. Cave Story + is shit mostly because you shouldn't be supporting Nicalis, the fucking leeches. And a few issues which are fixable unofficially.>Zelda and Xenoblade try to accomplish this via endless therapy sessionsYou consider anything short of beheading a bad guy and making problems evaporate to be a "therapy session", so this is completely meaningless once again.>I enjoy actually interacting with the gameplay.Same. That usually means progressing the story along its fixed route. Games that try to present their story otherwise usually have both the gameplay and story suffer for it, and always fail.Games that have the reference for gameplay that leads to trying to "never interrupt the player" usually are afraid to do much with their writing.So there's really no way to try and avoid at least presenting a loose, linear story.
>>744750620>Meaningless. Literally just spewing words to try and make out a difference where there isn't any.Let me put it to you this way: if you don't like the cutscenes, you will be seeing about 5000 "skip cutscene" screens just so you can progress the game to what it laughably calls the gameplay. That's pretty damn intrusive, to be honest. >Oh, I thought it was a movie game because it had sexy girls and cutscenes?It's literally a 0 budget pixel game. No budget was allocated to the females or the graphics or the story. Nicalis decided that the game needed more graphics, and what a shock that the remake sucks diarrhea through a straw.>You consider anything short of beheading a bad guy and making problems evaporate to be a "therapy session"Yes. You want everything to be steven universe, I want everything to be undertale genocide route, or Armored Core For Answer genocide route. Just give me some tasty genocide. >That usually means progressing the story along its fixed routeAnd with JRPGs, that means discarding the gameplay randomly whenever the story calls for it. IE "you win the battle, but lose in the cutscene." I don't know how that's fun for anyone.>Games that have the reference for gameplay that leads to trying to "never interrupt the player" usually are afraid to do much with their writing.That sounds like a good thing. Better to not clutter the story beyond the bare minimum. Just give me a bad guy to viciously pummel until he stops moving. Really, the most you need for cinematic accompaniment is a giant yellow arrow that points to the bad guy and says "this is the bad guy". Or at least that's how modern game devs would do it. Back in the old day, you knew someone was the bad guy when they were trying to kill you. It was quite self-evident, but I don't expect modern gamers to pick up on those subtle cues anymore.
>>744740184Wasn't there a leak where Game freak was receiving passive aggressive emails from nintendo "advising" them to get more devs and ask for help?
>>744751064>That's pretty damn intrusive, to be honest.And it's also not a direct result of there being sexy girls in a game, nor a requirement if I enjoy the gameplay.>No budget was allocated to the females or the graphics or the story.No budget was allocated to the gameplay either. The fact that the story exists means it is a movie game by your standards.>You want everything to be steven universe, I want everything to be undertale genocide routeNo, you want everything to be Undertale genocide route, I want all games to do whatever. Some things can be Undertale genocide route. Some things can be Steven Universe. Most things can be in between the two.The hero's journey exists in service of the inner experience it gives the hero. They kill the bad guy because the bad guy represents an inner problem. If that's "therapy" then all good writing in human history has been "therapy", and you only prefer when the story can be interpreted in a way that everything was solved by killing a bad guy. Sometimes even the author interprets their story that way, but authors are frequently retarded about their own work. Fahrenheit 451 is specifically about TV being annoying and not about the death of information in the pursuit of newer, more entertaining media, if you ask the author.>discarding the gameplay randomly whenever the story calls for itThe gameplay is an abstraction of what's really happening. 0 HP is the end of the fight. The party losing in a cutscene is not an attack on me or a loss state.>That sounds like a good thing. Better to not clutter the story beyond the bare minimum. Just give me a bad guy to viciously pummel until he stops moving.Yaaaaaawn. Boring. The bad guy needs to be bad for a reason. This is why Bowser lacks the impact that Eggman has. Environmentalism might be a basic bitch moral to push but it's still a moral core that Bowser as a villain doesn't have. What did he do, disrupt the monarchy? That's just feudalism. He's a king.
>>744751978Probably the biggest gap between shill intensity and fan response in the entire franchise. Embarrassing, and I say this as someone who generally will go to bat for Gen V.
>>744751467>And it's also not a direct result of there being sexy girls in a gameAnon, you and I know damn well that half the cutscenes exist solely for ass shots and showing them off in skimpy bikinis. That's why they sell Mythra's bikini outfit as part of the expansion pass, right? Just to drive the point home that all they care about is ogling the waifus.>No budget was allocated to the gameplay either. And yet they still made a great game, proving that you can make a good game without needing billions of dollars of investment funds from AAA companies. I wish JRPGs had the same mentality.>The hero's journey exists in service of the inner experience it gives the hero. And JRPGs fail this basic journey because half the time it's filler, half the time it's just an excuse to shove porn in your face. There's no journey being made, the games feel like they're making up the story as they go along, instead of having some structure to build up to. Beating progressively bigger bad guys, until you defeat the final boss, at least has a clear line of progression that makes you want to work towards it.>The gameplay is an abstraction of what's really happening. 0 HP is the end of the fight. 0 HP means that the player is dead. If the boss reaches 0 HP, they should be dead. Circumventing that means that the devs are lying about basic game mechanics. It's like a boss being randomly immune to every single status effect for no reason whatsoever, instead of giving him logical resistances. All because they couldn't program a proper fight.>This is why Bowser lacks the impact that Eggman hasThat's extremely ironic, considering that Mario's game output has been consistently better than Sonic's game output. I don't recall Mario ever putting out an abomination like Sonic 06. I will even say that Hotel Mario was a better, more functional game.
>>744740015This is a Pal
>>744752103>the cutscenes exist because of the sexy girlsNo.>they still made a great gameBy allocating the same budget towards gameplay as story, character design, and graphics. Not by neglecting the rest in favor of gameplay.>There's no journey being made, the games feel like they're making up the story as they go along,Because you demand that "structure" just be beating up bigger bad guys. Duh. Of course they won't all fall into the exact same pattern.>0 HP means that the player is dead.Please disconnect the gun from your console. Nobody told you to attach that.But in seriousness, no. You (or your whole party, depending on the exact mechanics) hit 0 HP, you fail and respawn back with no story acknowledgement. The boss hits 0 HP, you win and get story progress, which might involve the boss being defeated.>That's extremely ironic, considering that Mario's game output has been consistently better than Sonic's game output.That's true, but I'd also say that Mario's output has gotten increasingly inconsistent and stale as Nintendo have become more rigid in their attitude about how the games should be written and presented, while Sonic kinda fell apart because every time they made a change in response to fans they flanderized the franchise in the process. Nintendo's attitude on Mario's story has directly harmed the franchise's output too, is my point, even though it's close to what you want.
>>744743604Kill yourself subhuman
was it nintendo's fault or gamefreak's fault?i've heard that it was nintendo who didn't care about improving the games, because they always printed $ regardless of quality
>>744752815Fuck off back to your normalnigger shithole, tourist faggot.
>>744752584>the cutscenes exist because of the sexy girlsWould you like to explain the blatantly fanservicey shots of them dancing and taking their clothes off?>By allocating the same budget towards gameplay as story,The gameplay's budget is allowed to vary. It deserves as much, or little, money as the dev deems fit as long as it's good. The rest should have as little as possible, regardless of dev intent.>Because you demand that "structure" just be beating up bigger bad guys.And they can't even do that. Most JRPGs are insanely incompetent at even the most barebones storytelling.>The boss hits 0 HP, you win and get story progress, which might involve the boss being defeated.But why doesn't it always signal the boss being defeated? Why does the story have the audacity to claim "actually he beats you and you didn't do any harm to him"?If an entire fight can be discarded as meaningless, then the whole game can be thrown out as meaningless. I want my impact to be felt in the story. There's no arguing about that. I say I beat the bad guy, he should lay down and die. My desire trumps whatever dumb crap the writers want.>Nintendo's attitude on Mario's story has directly harmed the franchise's output too, is my point, even though it's close to what you want.Mario's story has very little to do with the stagnation of the franchise. Infact, for a long while Mario's stance on graphics wasn't a problem either. I didn't care if they opted away from realism and HD graphics and high polygon counts, as long as they delivered a good product.Having Mario's plot written by Hideo Kojima or David Cage or some other pretentious schmuck isn't gonna make the games better.
>>744733827So 12 million fewer than Palworld.
>>744753181>how do you explain that cutscenes exist wherein the girls are sexy if all cutscenes didn't exist because the girls were sexy?Because a depending on b does not mean b exists for a.>The rest should have as little as possible, regardless of dev intent.No. The rest should also be up to dev discretion.>And they can't even do that.No, they have their formulas, they're just not the exact one you want.>But why doesn't it always signal the boss being defeated?Because story progression doesn't always mean the guy the protagonists are fighting dies. Duh.>If an entire fight can be discarded as meaningless,But if the fight were discarded as meaningless, then your story progress would be undone too. You keep progress through the game, you only "lose" if your goal was to enact a certain outcome in the story.>I say I beat the bad guy, he should lay down and die.If this is the rule, what stops you from saying you beat the bad guy when he's only at half HP? 75%? Why not just say you beat him before the fight starts, if beating him and not fighting him is the important part?>Mario's story has very little to do with the stagnation of the franchise.Sega's failure was constantly reconsidering how they wanted Sonic presented. Nintendo's failure was trying to perfect and preserve every individual aspect of Mario in the pursuit of an objective best Mario. They represent two possible negative extremes in how story can be treated in games.
>>744739087NopeI watched several jap vtubers play the game, and some had similar glitchesNotably the ones that played for more than 3 hours had more glitches
>>744734615>>744735734>>744740015>>744746303>>744747918>>744749318>>744752575Would.
>>744737468>Nintendo is struggling financially.This. At its current rate, Nintendo will go bankrupt in [infinity] years.
>>744757162thats yen so basically 100k dollars
>>744757275You're missing the point. They're net profitable. Even during the Wii U they were net profitable except for the three quarters they built a new office building. There is a hard floor of about 13M people that will buy anything Nintendo makes. As long as they hit that number of console sales, and sell their consoles for a profit, they will subside. Any sales past that are just bonus money.
>>744753590>Because a depending on b does not mean b exists for a.Why not? >No. The rest should also be up to dev discretion.If devs are making retarded choices, they should be wrangled accordingly.>No, they have their formulas,see above.>Because story progression doesn't always mean the guy the protagonists are fighting dies. Duh.Then they've lost me. I have no tolerance for a story that doesn't follow proper logic.>But if the fight were discarded as meaningless, then your story progress would be undone too. Except if you die to the boss, you get a game over. So they're not even being consistent. >If this is the rule, what stops you from saying you beat the bad guy when he's only at half HP? 75%?It is consistent for the player to die if their HP reaches 0. The same should be true of the boss. I am asking for consistency.>Sega's failure was constantly reconsidering how they wanted Sonic presented. Nintendo's failure was trying to perfect and preserve every individual aspect of Mario in the pursuit of an objective best Mario. Sonic having a grandoise and shakespearean epic narrating the game wouldn't save the game from being boring, gimmicky trash.
the power of being an exclusive productthe game is so fucking awful and bland that is still super succesfull because there are no other games like this
>>744749158This, remember when HGSS came out and the director said he didn't even know if games were allowed to have so much content? Well, time has proven that they aren't.
>>744735013>Timmy>jeetAm I missing something here? Why do you associate that name with India? Wanna share something with the class, anon?
>>744734615Here's your well designed mascot, bro
>>744757451>why notBecause that's basic logic. Making progress through a story does not inherently mean bad guys dying. They're usually connected, not ontologically linked.>If devs are making retarded choices, Choosing not to have 100% story is not a retarded choice.>proper logic.A story where the protagonist is not allowed to struggle and fail is a bad story. All games have story even if they don't have cutscenes or try to have a story at all, because functioning humans will attach story to the most abstract glyphs if they see those glyphs do stuff in sequence. If there isn't a struggle in the story, losses in gameplay will become the struggle. So in order for a game to have a protagonist who never fails, it must either be so easy you never get stuck and not have an intentional story, or be whatever difficulty and badly written. Neither of those sounds particularly good as a blueprint for all games, does it?protagonist to literally fail. They got used to the formula and suspension of disbelief buckled under their inability to really feel the protagonist not being able to do what they're trying to.>Except if you die to the boss, you get a game over.Yeah, a game over on your end is not equal to any particular story outcome.In order for me beating the boss to not matter, the progress I got for beating it would have to be undone. That progress wasn't undone by them not dying in the story.>It is consistent for the player to die if their HP reaches 0Anyone and anything that dies for good after hitting 0 HP had some story flag attached that made it so. Enemies respawn. No character's death is inherently tied to hitting 0 HP. Not even the player's.>Sonic having a grandoiseNot what I was talking about.Your demands are a bunch of disconnected and internally inconsistent pet peeves that you've tried to stick together thoughtlessly. Why bother pretending you have a consistent point of view? Why keep embarrassing yourself?
>>744758840seeing these giant bumbling retards in the wild is a vibe
>>744758840Looks cool. What game?
>>744759278He's no Dumud but I love retardosaurus.Specially when he pulls the missile launchers.
>>744759034>Because that's basic logic. Making progress through a story does not inherently mean bad guys dyingThat's how alot of JP games are, which is why their games are stagnating. Funny enough, western games are doing that alot too. "we must be le better men" and so on. That's why Kratos no longer cares about revenge, and would rather just listen to Jeffre Cantu Ledesma while his wife's bull is in the next room. No more fighting bad guys, that's toxic and problematic.>Choosing not to have 100% story is not a retarded choice.Having some gameplay would be nice. I wish JRPG devs agreed.>A story where the protagonist is not allowed to struggle and fail is a bad story.Hence why the actual gameplay provides the challenge. If the protagonist fails, that lies solely on the skill of the player. Compare Doom, for example, to nu-Doom. One is clearly overhyped pigslop for the cinematic loving masses, while the original is just you fighting monsters and progressing through the levels. I guess Bethesda just forgot how to do that. >In order for me beating the boss to not matter, the progress I got for beating it would have to be undoneA good chunk of the time, I don't even get any rewards, so if I wasted healing items beating this POS, then my time and my effort was quite literally wasted. >Anyone and anything that dies for good after hitting 0 HP had some story flag attached that made it so. When I protect Banon in FF6, I get an instant game over if his health hits 0, even if the rest of the party is still fine, and even if I still have phoenix downs in my party. again a case of the story just decided to shove its ugly face in my face.>Your demands are a bunch of disconnected and internally inconsistent pet peeves that you've tried to stick together thoughtlessly. My demands are easily met with games that put the gameplay first. I've even given you multiple examples of games that do this without struggling like JRPGs tend to.>embarrasing yourselflol
>>744759278>>744759386I know it's so awesome and cool when someone else does it. We get it.
>>744758840>fatass retarded dinosaur>literally called relaxosaurus>"damn these guys must be chill right">they immediately go rape mode as soon as they see youliterally soul
>>744759626Well animated beasts that actually look huge in-game is indeed much better than whatever the fuck that bridge is, it's not even close to a contest.
>>744758840Is kino I'm afraid.
>poketards discussing with paltardsevery design is ugly as fuck, stop arguing
>>744759742No not really. Btw I'm really sorry people are waking up to how delusional you fanboys are. Must have been a fun honeymoon phase, but now its over.
>>744759829>AI
>>744759861If you find pals ugly then you must be gay.
>>744759861>frog thinks he can discuss meta
>>744759925If it's not Pepe or Wojak it's not real art sorry
>>744759443>No more fighting bad guys, that's toxic and problematic.Is that really the endpoint you see for any story that doesn't hinge on the death of someone evil?>Having some gameplay would be nice.JRPG devs do agree. You then disagree with them about what gameplay is, because you think combat only counts as gameplay if it ends in someone dying in the story, for some reason.>Hence why the actual gameplay provides the challenge.Every game has a story level on which your successes in gameplay are acknowledged and your failures in gameplay aren't. There isn't an ending crawl of the original Doom that mentions how many times you died. So the protagonist doesn't feel like he struggled. Simple as.>If the protagonist fails, that lies solely on the skill of the player.Complete nonsense that demands protagonists not go through basic protagonist stuff because in games the protagonist is also the player and thus a special little boy. Sorry, not how it works.>A good chunk of the time, I don't even get any rewards,There is no boss in existence that you beat in game, lose to in the cutscene, and then nothing changes in gameplay. You at least get experience, dialogue, and story progress.>My demands are easily met with games that put the gameplay first.But even Terraria doesn't actually meet your demands. You have to make a ton of exceptions for it to work. >Oh, I trust them, they've shown that they intend to work on gameplay even if they add cosmetic stuffYou formed that trust because the game met your standards and then your standards changed to exclude it.
>>744759829Crazy how the artist didn't sign his work. I wonder why that is the case.
>>744759925most pals are bland as fuck, extremely simplistic designs even for monster catching games and some of them are literal ripoffs from pokemon (pokemon does the same thing too).
>>744759864You don't need to be constantly butthurt, learn to enjoy good games instead of being a stinky.
>>744760332What the fuck is on the right, do the Kalos starters have megas now?
>>744760332why did you paste some gay deviantart oc there
You guys still arguing about Xenoblade?
>>744759925Generic furshit
>>744760403But I am enjoying ARK
>>744760128>Is that really the endpoint you see for any story that doesn't hinge on the death of someone evil?Better that than "um, the mass murderer actually had le feelings, we should forgive them because they were le sad" ala Golbez and Egil and Beatrix and Freya and Abby. Total villain death.>JRPG devs do agree. You then disagree with them about what gameplay is, because you think combat only counts as gameplay if it ends in someone dying in the story, for some reason.I demand the gameplay take priority over the story. Simple stuff. the story must change itself to accommodate the gameplay.>Every game has a story level on which your successes in gameplay are acknowledged and your failures in gameplay aren't.Alot of good games will acknowledge you not dying at all. I remember Link's Awakening giving you a special prize for 0 deaths, I think it had something to do with Marin and being a seagull idk. Would've liked more, but there's an example.>Complete nonsense that demands protagonists not go through basic protagonist stuff"Basic protagonist stuff" involves videogamey actions like surviving bad guys and platforming through dangerous environments. Is that not enough?>There is no boss in existence that you beat in game, lose to in the cutscene, and then nothing changes in gameplay. Quick example: storming Bevelle in FF10. You can shrug off monsters that shoot meteors down at you, but some stupid punks point guns at you in a cutscene and now you're completely powerless. You just beat 40 of these guys back to back in multiple fights, but now you surrender for no reason. You don't get a damn thing except being pushed into a stupid hallway centric dungeon, and an underwater area where you instakill the boss with a phoenix down. Not feeling too motivated to continue playing, to be honest.>But even Terraria doesn't actually meet your demands.Yes it does. I don't care about optional cosmetic stuff. I will make exemptions because it doesn't get in my way.
>>744759891source?
>>744760526Nothing gets more generic furshit than eevee. It's whole purpose is to be generic
>>744760685>b-but pokemonlol
>>744760676Show me the artist's signature
>>744760527So, you see my problem, anon. You’re telling me you are sitting there, having a relaxing, highly enjoyable evening playing ARK. But my nephew, and the general consensus of the entire internet, tells me that enjoying ARK is a psychological and physical impossibility. Which means you couldn't have been enjoying yourself. which makes me wonder if you were playing it at all.
>>744760578>betterAgreed. Not the proper solution though. Neither "kill em all" or "redeem everyone" is automatically right, nor will ever be.>I demand the gameplay take priority over the story.The gameplay takes priority over the story by continuing even when the characters would prefer the game to end.>Alot of good games will acknowledge you not dying at all.Literally the opposite of what I'm asking for, if the protagonist has to be canonically acknowledged as never failing then the story is almost certainly going to be built around not acknowledging lesser gameplay failures.>Is that not enough?Not even close. The real "basic protagonist stuff" is going through personal change while you're on your hero's journey. Staying completely fixed on your starting trajectory is protagonist failure.>You can shrug off monsters that shoot meteors down at you, but some stupid punks point guns at you in a cutscene and now you're completely powerless.But you have progressed to the next dungeon of the game and have to beat this dungeon to get to more of them. You progressed. Your progress isn't being undone. The gameplay has moved on. What you're demanding is a change to the writing and presentation to make the course of the gameplay feel more natural, not a change to the gameplay.>I will make exemptions becauseYour standards are inconsistent and don't actually apply to the games you claim to like. No more and no less.
>>744760878Miss me wuth your faggot ass LARP, manchild.
>>744760332Palworld as a game isn't that great but a lot of the Pal designs are solid. If the artstyle/shading was a bit better and not generic UE5 some of the Pals would look really good
>>744760907>Agreed. Not the proper solution though. Neither "kill em all" or "redeem everyone" is automatically right, nor will ever be.It's kinda hard to go back to forced choices after playing games that give you the freedom to just kill everyone.>The gameplay takes priority over the story by continuing even when the characters would prefer the game to end.That's nowhere near good enough. I want something on par with Deus Ex, where despite it's problems, I can literally end the game early by killing Bob Paige.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2My1AXNV_wYes, it is an exploit, and it does hardlock the story progress, but damn if it isn't funny that you were able to just kill the main bad guy long before you're supposed to. Meanwhile JRPGS have to constantly cheat just so their special snowflake villains get to live another day, by breaking game mechanics.>Literally the opposite of what I'm asking for,Just making a point. back on the original tangent, It's okay for the player to fail via gameplay because that's fun. Making you learn how to do something better is fun. That's the entire point of gameplay. Watching a cutscene is not fun. Watching a bad guy get up after you wailed on him for 20 minutes is not fun. >Not even close. The real "basic protagonist stuff" is going through personal changeBut the gameplay alone can offer that. Doomguy goes from punching bad guys, to shooting at them with a BFG. It's more character development than 1000 JRPG protags put together.>But you have progressed to the next dungeon That's not progress. That's the game dragging you to the next area. You didn't earn it, the game just shoved it in your face.>What you're demanding is a change to the writing and presentation to make the course of the gameplay feel more natural, This too.>Your standards are inconsistent I disagree. At no point in Minecraft or Terraria are you forced to surrender because the plot says so, for example.
>>744760830And why would u need a signature just to prove its not AI?Signatures can also be put in by AI faggot.
>>744760526But enough of pokeslop designs.
>>744761485>It's kinda hard to go back to forced choicesI've never particularly wanted to kill everyone so I can't relate. I do know that it's not automatically good no matter the game, just like forgiving everyone isn't automatically good no matter the game.>That's nowhere near good enoughDeus Ex is a miracle game that's still coming apart at the seams for the trouble it goes to, and still has plenty of quests where you just don't have a perfectly reasonable course of action because they didn't have the ability to give you infinite options. Far better to just have a relatively linear story where the protagonist questions themself for awhile in the middle if you aren't going to do something specific.>Watching a bad guy get up after you wailed on him for 20 minutes is not fun.A game is not obligated to be maximally fun at all times, and games that try to be are often vapid. Terraria would be much worse off if they tried to make sure you were constantly at "peak fun", it would take away the journey of so many upgrades.>Doomguy goes from marching forward killing demons to marching forward killing demons betterLike I said, protagonist failure. He's cool, he's a fun character, but not a well written one.>That's not progress. That's the game dragging you to the next area.You did not hit an inevitable bullshit forced loss and then get put in a punishment dungeon for losers after you tried to reload your save and continue playing. You moved to the next dungeon, whose premise begins with the protagonists losing.The fact that those guys are "just some punks with guns" is not an element of gameplay. It is a story observation. Just like the fact that the monsters you already fought were chucking meteors at you. All the gameplay has is damage numbers and stats, and you don't see misleading damage numbers or stats, you see the party surrender.>but there's no forced surrenders in terraria!And that wasn't your standards five minutes ago.
I thought Pals were ugly when I played, but a lot of the Pals being posted in this are great
>>744760685>generic furshitIt's not even based on a real animal
>>744761479The outline mod looks like an improvement but I'm too lazy to mess with UELS or whatever that framework is called
>>744762183This.Never played the actual game and the more i see these pal creatures being posted on /v/ the more i want to play it.
>>744759925Genki Usagi Nakadashi.
>>744761908>I've never particularly wanted to kill everyone so I can't relate. I do know that it's not automatically good no matter the game,Then the games really need to stop asking me to bend over and lick the boots of mass murderers who were trying to kill me earlier.>Deus Ex is a miracle game that's still coming apart at the seams for the trouble it goes to,Yes. This is why I can forgive its occasional flounders. It clearly had a mission it wanted to accomplish, without lecturing the player. It helps that you're allowed to kill people or not, and it even lets you get creative in how you do it. >Terraria would be much worse off if they tried to make sure you were constantly at "peak fun", it would take away the journey of so many upgrades.Except it is peak fun. It knows to give the player options and breathing room, so each playthrough is different than the last. As an example, if I face the Dungeon Guardian, then in most JRPGs he would be an unkillable enemy or the game wouldn't recognize your efforts to fight him, but you can not only beat him, but get a neat prize for your effort. It's the little details.>He's cool, he's a fun character, but not a well written one.I disagree. What makes a video game character good differs from cinematic movies and books. Him killing demons better IS development.>You did not hit an inevitable bullshit forced loss and then get put in a punishment dungeon for losersThat is literally the Via Purifico. If the devs were smart, they would've let me fight my way out WITHOUT going through a lame filler dungeon.>The fact that those guys are "just some punks with guns" is not an element of gameplay. It is a story observationThere should not be a separation. I beat them like they're made of paper, they don't get to become unkillable gods in story.>And that wasn't your standards five minutes ago.Gameplay above story. Those are, and always were, my standards. Take em or leave them.
>>744762231Anon is just horny for furfag stuff but won't admit it.
>>744760332Even the worst Pal designs are still inoffensive compared to shit like Kleffky and that fucking bridge Pokemon.
>>744761749If you can't find an artist credit on official promotional material it's because it was made using AI
>>744762394>the games really need to stop asking me to bend over and lick the boots of mass murderersI'm equally sick of games assuming I'll want to forgive everyone as I am of games where I'm expected to just wanna kill everyone for no reason other than them being enemies. Both are annoying performative shit. >It clearly had a mission it wanted to accomplish, without lecturing the player.There's a ton of dialogue, you said dialogue was lecturing the player.>What makes a video game character good differs from cinematic movies and booksNope, a well written character is a well written character. Doomguy is a fun character. There's a difference. Sometimes a game isn't trying to be well written, and that's fine too. Unlike you, I'm happy to live in a world where games exist all over this spectrum of writing quality, depth, and quantity. I can still easily dismiss shit like TLOU without being so delusional I see it as identical to Xenoblade.>That is literally the Via Purifico.You didn't get a game over, try to reload, and then get dumped in the loser dungeon because the game ignored its mechanics to make you lose and punish you.>There should not be a separation.Too bad, there literally can't NOT be a separation. Appearance =/= stat block.>Gameplay above story.And making a change with no intent for that change to improve the gameplay is putting story above gameplay, per your own standards. Unless Terraria does it. That is blatantly inconsistent, yeah.
>>744762593source?
>>744762593Proofs?
>>744760275poketroon cope
>>744762394>I beat them like they're made of paperI haven't played the specific game you're arguing about, are they actually enemies the player has fought before by that point in the game? If so that's moderately lazy. Still not story-ruining, but they easily could've recolored them to imply they were a new variant with higher stats at least.
>>744762667>>744762654No thanks. I said my part and stand by it. If you want to prove me wrong then that's your prerogative.
>>744727218this game isn't anything like pokemon for the most part, except for the presence of the retarded fake pokemon
>>744762971>I don't have to prove anything I just have to make my claim and you can disprove itNo, making a claim requires you to back it up. You haven't claimed anything without at least an argument if not, god forbid, a source.
>>744762795>I haven't played the specific game you're arguing about, are they actually enemies the player has fought before by that point in the gameThe game is FF10, you're storming a wedding to save one of your party members. The enemies that surround you in the cutscene are the same grunts you just spent 10 minutes fighting in groups of 3, and they die in one hit at this point in the story. Infact, in the cutscene there's about 4 guys who point guns at you, including the fat cheftain who gets killed off screen later. It is the equivalent of Mario surrendering to Bowser because he's surrounded by 3 goombas.
>>744763083I don't know about you but I'm not fucking with no goombas. Those things can kill you just by touching you
>>744763062>>744762971
>>744763083Okay, that's a little silly. It sounds like they were trying to imply there were simply too many guards and even if you were instantly killing them they'd just keep coming and they're a lot more disposable than your party, along with them controlling the location. But if nobody actually said anything to back that up and the party just surrendered after successfully fighting all but four, that's officially putting too much onus on the player to read into things. They really should've just made the ones you surrender to a new variant.
>>744761479I just defeated the desert tower guy and so far 95-97% of the pals I've found are fucking blandmost of them look like designs made by a teenager who just opened his deviantart furry account>>744762479yeah but why is it always ">b-but pokemon"?not everyone is comparing palworld to pokemonI fucking despise pokemon and I also dislike palworld and think that its designs are horridjust pay 50$ and a few onion rings to a starving fakemon artist and he will deliver a collection of good looking designs
>>744762604>I'm equally sick of games assuming I'll want to forgive everyone as I am of games where I'm expected to just wanna kill everyone for no reason other than them being enemiesThen you can see why I hate JRPGs.>There's a ton of dialogue, you said dialogue was lecturing the player.Letting me do the most wacky and insane shit made me give the game some sympathy. When the gameplay is just that good, I have a hard time faulting it for its story faults. I'm not completely unreasonable, just give the player some respect.>Doomguy is a fun character. That makes him a well written video game character as well. Same as Mario. He's doing his job elevating the medium into something enjoyable. >I can still easily dismiss shit like TLOU without being so delusional I see it as identical to Xenoblade.Why not see them as identical?>You didn't get a game over,The game was over for me. Getting punished with one of the worst dungeons in any game, all because the story had to push me in that direction, was beyond unforgivable. >Too bad,That sounds like a JRPG issue, to be honest.>And making a change with no intent for that change to improve the gameplay is putting story above gameplay,If it's not gonna hurt the gameplay, then at least it's tolerable. You really have to judge it on a case by case basis. For example, despite my hate of JRPGs, I don't hate every single one of them. Quite fond of the 3 different Mario JRPGs. Mario and Luigi, Paper Mario, SMRPG. It's clear they put gameplay above the story, even if they still have story. Nobody cares about """character development"""" in a bing bing wahoo.
>>744763430didnt readleft is better
>>744763473don't care didn't ask
>>744763301Due to the situation, they couldn't even pull the "they'll just keep coming at you" angle because the battle is taking place ontop of a really high building, so it's just like 3-4 guys left up there. One is an NPC who dies off screen, and the last one is one of the main villains, who has been soundly beaten like it was nothing less than an hour ago, Seymour. He's a complete non-threat in the story at this point. The character we're saving, infact, is one of the most powerful in the entire game, since she can summon arch demons to do her bidding, and there isn't a single character at that point that can stand up to her.
>>744763473Left would unironically only look good if it were wearing a fedora, thay how shitty it is.
>>744763450>Then you can see why I hate JRPGs.No, they don't expect you to want to forgive everyone.>I'm not completely unreasonable, just give the player some respect.That way is how you get games where the player isn't allowed to lose. Ever seen one of those corporate mandate documents on an important character's appearance in a crossover? The way they aren't allowed to go through certain types of stress or failure? That, but applied to a player, is the endpoint I see for your mindset.>That makes him a well written video game character as well. A well written character requires good writing. Not just fun writing.>Why not see them as identical?Because not all writing and cutscenes are identical. Your belief that they are is delusion.>The game was over for me.But there was no gameplay "game over". You wanted the game to end. That's not the same thing. Your distaste for that portion of the game wouldn't change just because the story wasn't you getting defeated.>That sounds like a JRPG issueHow so? It's a very specific design choice when the visuals of every single character and gameplay element indicate their gameplay properties perfectly at all times.>it's not gonna hurt the gameplayA cutscene doesn't hurt the gameplay.
>>744763667>the battle is taking place ontop of a really high buildingThe enemies are holding a wedding there. Surely they control it and the building can reasonably be swarming with goons.
>>744763746>No, they don't expect you to want to forgive everyoneThey sure don't do a good job of it>That way is how you get games where the player isn't allowed to loseIn terms of story, that seems fair. You are not allowed to lose unless you actually lose in the gameplay. Failure thus cannot be blamed on anyone other than your lack of skill.If something bad happens in the story, and you were directly responsible, that's different. You knew blowing up the bridge you were standing on was a bad idea, you did it anyway, and you fell to your death. That's not a hackneyed out-of-nowhere story death. That's just natural cause and effect. I don't feel cheated by having a game over, that just felt natural.>A well written character requires good writing.In terms of a video game, brevity trumps all else.>Because not all writing and cutscenes are identical.When you're not looking at the obvious parallels, sure.>But there was no gameplay "game over". You wanted the game to endBecause it was just that bad. Only reason why I even kept going was because I already sunk enough time into it. Might as well see the end. (big mistake by the way, should've just watched a damn walkthrough and saved myself the time)>How so? Plenty of games incorporate story and gameplay perfectly fine. >A cutscene doesn't hurt the gameplay.It does when it's forced on me. And asking me to skip it is just a bandaid ontop of a wound, because the bad writing decisions make the game worse.
>>744763430>yeah but why is it always ">b-but pokemon"?Are you really going to play that card while posting a pokemon comparison? Also I think pals look good. It's an opinion. Also>putting a meme arrow inside quotation marks
>>744764117I don't think you quite grasp how silly the building design is in this game. The wedding takes place on a tower, whose top is essentially just a cramped hallway. I don't even recall there being any doors up there. for all we know, they could've just climbed the side of the building.
>>744764202>Are you really going to play that card while posting a pokemon comparison?yes because in my previous posts I was talking about how bad they look while also lots of them being pokemon ripoffs>Also I think pals look good. It's an opinionwell I think they look badit's a fact>>putting a meme arrow inside quotation markscall the police
>>744764176>They sure don't do a good job of it... by making stories where you are in no way expected to forgive everyone?>In terms of story, that seems fair.That seems heinously unfair to me. If the protagonist can only fail because I failed, he can't go through any developments that involve failure. Much fairer would be making it clear that the protagonist and not the player is who's failing.>In terms of a video game, brevity trumps all else.No.>When you're not looking at the obvious parallels, sure.The "parallels" of "I am not pressing buttons right now"? Lmao.>Because it was just that bad.But it wasn't a game over? So how were the rules of gameplay violated exactly?>plenty of games have every character perfectly visually represent all their gameplay traits at all times!Name some.>It does whenIt literally never does.I think I have to cut this off here. You're clearly incapable of making the connection between terraria making cosmetic changes and being given the OK and every other game making cosmetic changes and upsetting you. That's ok, we can't all understand cause and effect.
>>744764375Sure, you thinking they look bad is a fact. I already called the internet police btw. Brace yourself for teh banhammer
>>744764336So the protagonists would have to fight their way down through an even more endless parade of mooks to escape? Hmm...
>>744764585NTA, cringe manchild
>>744764572>... by making stories where you are in no way expected to forgive everyone?They expect you to slaughter the dime-a-dozen minions, but mr. murderer man gets forgiven because he cried or something.>That seems heinously unfair to me. If the protagonist can only fail because I failed, he can't go through any developments that involve failure. I don't see why he needs to. It's a video game, not a visual novel.>The "parallels" of "I am not pressing buttons right now"? Lmao.See my first point. TLOU and Xenoblade are almost creepily similar. Abby gets a boner for murdering Joel, much like Egil gets a boner for murdering homs. But because they have le sad tragic backstory, we should feel sympathy for them. To hell with them both.>But it wasn't a game over?It sure felt like it. Why punish me with a terribly designed and boring dungeon? >Name some.Terraria, Minecraft, Super Mario Bros, Tetris, Pong, all the classics.>I think I have to cut this off here. You're clearly incapable of making the connection between terraria making cosmetic changes and being given the OK and every other game making cosmetic changes and upsetting youWhen Terraria's cosmetic changes drag the gameplay down and make it a boring slog, then you might have a case.
>>744762971So u been going with the ''Just trust me bro'' and you thought we are going to take it?
>>744735067Its a 3 way split between Nintendo, Creature and Game Freak. Thats is really the problem. Game Freak has a big say in the series and its the ONLY thing that keeps them afloat. Looks at Beast of Reincarnation. Its their big game to show they can be a real studio and its a poor imitation of the games its copying. Nintendo has suggested they get outside help but Game Freak refuses because they can not lose control of Pokemon.I fully expect there to be more infighting once the lawsuit completely crashes and the possibility Furakawa "spends more time with his family".
>>744764827Except for the fact that the character they're saving can summon flying creatures to get them out of trouble, and actually does save her when she jumps off the building (it sort of makes sense in the plot).Did I forget to mention that the main characters have a massive warship with hundreds of guns and missiles aimed at the tower, and could've killed every mook with ease? and they never give a reason why they don't just level the whole building to the ground, other than it would've ended the story 20 hours too soon.
>>744764827>>744765085Adding onto that, the airship is the reason why they were able to drop in on the wedding, and could've just jumped off the tower back onto the airship at any time. They do something even crazier late in the game, when they jump off the back of a flying demon whale, 40,000 miles in the air, and land perfectly onto their airship without even a scratch.
>>744764984Well you did take it. I'm not seeing a single rebuttal.
>>744765401uh oh, tendo freak is going delusional again lol
>>744765567You'll get over it.
>>744728878>he thinks Lame Freak calls the shots
>>744759716unironically a trannylater problem>jp name translates to "hungrysaurus">"localized" as relaxaurus for some retarded reason
>>744734649>Pokemon main moneymaker is merch.>Little Timmy and his mom wouldn't know which one is pokemon and which one is a pal if you put their plushie side by side.You said it yourself. Pokemon's brand name recognition didn't appear from a vacuum. You need need appealing games to advertise the merch.Nintendo/TPC can't keep counting on soillennial nintendo adults forever
>>744766094They actually do. When Nintendo begged them to seek help from Monolithsoft GF told them to pound sand and that they didn't need help.They unironically have more control over the direction Pokemon does than Nintendo. Not over Pokemon Company though.
>>744766094It's actually a fact so it's easy to think that
>>744757414>they're profitable, therefore they should continue to coast off previous successYou have the thinking capacity of a 5-year old.
>>744730680What's considered 2026 and why is it good?
>>744727218
>>744766446>autoshootersit's survivatons, actually
>>744766285>>744766293Sure, GF is in control, which is why the games are released in sync with the anime broadcast schedule even if they're unfinished, right.
>>744766410They're not coasting lol. They retook the entire industry and now own 100% or retail as well. Lol.
>>744766537That's the scheduling that Pokemon Company puts out. Nintendo probably has the least control of the three.
>>744766446>/v/ discussing videogamesfake pic
>>744766264I'm willing to bet pokemania would've never happened without the anime
>>744766537>Sure, GF is in control, which is why the games are released in sync with the anime broadcast schedule even if they're unfinished, right.Uh yeah that only further proves my point
>>744766875>company delivering unfinished product = in controlLeast retarded pokeshitter
How come no one ever mentions that part of the reason these new 3d Pokémon look so dogshit is because of the lack of proper lighting and shading? It's like everything is lit by a cheap hotel fluorescent light at night, and this is all somehow intentional.
>>744767047>and this TV show is why Nintendo owns and controls pokemonFalse my child.
>>744727218i want to have sex with dupin
>>744766540So since they have 100% of retail, they don't have to worry about competing for shelf space. Surely this means they don't need to charge for NSO anymore, and they can lower the price of all their games, right? I couldn't imagine paying more than 10 dollars for Star Fox or rhythm heaven.
>>744727218yeah thank FUCK, they make better shit
>>744767609I can't help you with that. Sorry anon.
>>744727218palworld is going to have a paypig MMO game on mobile LMAOOOOO palworld can eat shit
>>744768158I wasn't able to get a bowl a full strike, as a wild Grizzbolt walked over and decided to gatling gun them all. Unprovoked.
>>744727218The easiest way to mog palworld at this point is base construction. Palworld's building blocks are ASS. If nintendo could make a 0.66 scale palworld open world, stuff it with pokemans, and have a much more robust base building tileset, then they would instantly win. Base building is the hidden weak link.
>>744768325ARK already did that and mogs palworld
>>744766527That is literally never catching on.
>>744768306>UnprovokedNo such a thing.Wistellas must die.
>>744768358Where are the pokemans?
>>744767991ah yes, as we know, pokemon has never had a paypig mobage
>>744768515There's none in ARK or palworld.
>>744767991Pokemon Go get some better bait
>>744768574>ITS OK WHEN INDIES DO IT
Remember when everybody thought this was never gonna be a real game or release?crazy
>>744767775actual cope post, holy fuck nobody can think this, even if you hate nintendo
>>744768991Yeah, now it’s a real game and even got it’s own full release and now it is even starting to spawn spinoffs.
>>744768985>ITS OK WHEN NINTENDIES DO IT
>>744727218they dont need to. all they have to do is remake red/blue for the 13th time and call it something different and make the tutorial 4 hours longer and ship it and it will sell 6 million copies in 1 week
>>744732115Every pokemon breaks sale records regardless of quality. People are buying the IP, not the game. It would be unnecessary, and arguably irresponsible to dedicate a huge amount of money, effort, time, and manpower to a project that will perform identically to an ugly and broken piece of shit you can put out in a year.
>>744768515Yes, I think there are multiple.
I'm trying to find the bakemi lewdsif you have them or can point me to them, I thank you
just a reminder that the emulator blaming faggot is a mindbroken tendie shill samefagging as much as humanly possible to keep his famitsu spam thread upgenuinely the saddest thing i have ever seen>>744724147
>>744769571Vixy!The cutest source of infinite palspheres.
>>744728878>copeYou are fucking pathetic.
>>744769872Falseflags are getting sad these days.
I'm going to make a better 3d monster catching game than pokemon and palworldno I'm not going to include furry gay designs
>>744770772please make them have evos...>BlueNeed Evo>RedNeed Pre-evo>greenAlready looks like a Evo-line.
>>744770846Kill yourself
>>744770846>Tarantriss in the same tier as Relaxasaurus and Lovander>not even above Dazzi aka pedobaitWTF
>>744770846>wasting manhours making animations for pre-evo shitters that you see for less than an hourno thanks
>>744763430That slop on the right is palworld? You are right- ugly as fuck.
>>744769913is that her shit
>>744770869no you retard paltwat.
I want to know more about the expeditions
>>744771089i didn't make the Tier list.This was made because these Paltards didn't belive their fucking creatures need evolution.
>>744740015>poketroons look at this and think to themselves>PEAK
>>744771114Mods or just don't do the animation
>>744771320I still don't.
>>744771089Spiders are kinda ugly, sorry bro, she ain't bad but she ain't that great either she is just "good".
>>744771423Did you know there was an evolution framework made during the pre-release?Do you know how many evolution mods using the framework were made? 1, using the Delphox line and injecting their premade assets and animations into the game.Nobody wants to make new models or animations for useless shit like this.>just don't do the animationSo you're fine with motionless blobs as evolutions? Absolutely pathetic.
>>744771320They don'tPlease remove that diarrhea stain from the thread, though
>>744771246Kill yourself
>>744771089>>744766185
>>744727218Will nintendo take on GTA6 and rockstar next i wonder? The fuckers patent the ability of a character getting in a car and be able to drive that car with ZELDA TOTK.
>>744771620
>>744771671if so that would be hilarious as fuck. FUCK ROCKSTAR
>>744771628>no counterargumentcope harder
>>744771770Kill yourself
>>744771713If you want evolution, then mod it in yourself. Nobody else wants to, nobody with the ability to do so anyway.
Who knew that all you needed to do to make survival crafters fun is not make it a pain in the ass to play. The pals are a bonus.
>>744771621>Please remove that diarrhea stain from the thread, thoughPaltards are as Retarded as Poketards.
>>744769571SEX
>>744727218>NintendoThat’s Gamefreak dumbass
>>744771787copeWatch this Evolution line and Cry.
>>744771770>palworld evolution>it just starts as sex and doesn't changegood middleground
>>744771867Kill yourself
>>744771320Nta, Pals work much better not having evolution. If I like a particular design, I don't have to worry about it getting overridden by something I might not like. Take Vixy for example. If it was in (Modern) Pokemon, it'd start out like that and then morph into a bipedal diva. There'd also be an in between form that's either ugly or forgettable. And there's plenty of Pokemon without evolution at all either. It's just not all that attractive of a mechanic anymore.
>>744771893cope
>>744771934Kill yourself
>>744771305Condense every pal and level them up to 50-60 and they'll pull like 50k expedition power each. You can get 1000% rewards. Do the research bench for Mining and Lumbering it has techs to reduce expedition time.
>>744771916some need, like i said like a lot of times, some pals are pretty bland, other however don't need evolution or at least a 2-stage evolution.
>>744771879Palworld evolution is unlocking their partner equipment on the tech tree.
>>744771770Can you even explain why you want evolution in the game apart from "other creature collectors do it?" Because Dragon Quest and Monster Rancher don't do it. Shin Megami Tensei doesn't do it... most of the time.
>>744771867looks like shit dawg
>>744727218my ONLY problem with Palworld is that there's no reasonable PC handheld in the current market that plays the properly at 1080p/60fpswe're either stuck with Zen 2 5-yo garbage with no FSR support or $1800 literal whos with no OLED screensmaybe the rumored Sony handheld will fix the situation somewhat? until then no i can't really give it the gravitas that Pokemon has because it's not directly competing in their own market (portable shit)I only know zoomers and millennials like me playing Palworld, Pokemon will prob break records next year again because Palworld decided to use UE5 and out of reach for low budget gamers
>>744771949>>744772010cope
>>744728878Nintendo can't make games any more
>>744772052Kill yourself
>>744769324I mean at least the tendies actually do like the series.The people paypigging the ARK clone are doing it purely out of spite.
>>744772008can you read the fucking commets?>>744771997
>>744727218Not unable, but unnecessary. They can invest less money and labor and keep to a regular release schedule for Pokémon games and still make billions of dollars. People buy it anyways.
>>744770846Why do people who call Palworld a rip off want Palworld to rip off one of Pokemons most iconic features? Not all creature capture games need evolution
>>744771818>PoketardsThey're called Nintendies, you cretin!T. Neutral Pokemon Chad who hates Nintendies and Palosers!
>>744772075..... you know there's a sort button right?
>>744772091cope
>>744771997I can put in some effort to make my shitmons compete with the bullshit powerful late game pals. It's all up to me if I want to go through with it. I just don't see evolution as necessary in this game.
>>744772297Kill yourself
>>744772119Evolution needs to be added because some Pals are bland, in your opinion. And THAT'S the only possible solution to the issue? They need to turn into completely different Pals that invalidate the old ones? You can't do anything more thematically appropriate for the existing gameplay loop like give them wearable armor or expand the number of skins? It HAS to be a mechanic that doesn't exist in the game and coincidentally already exists in the games you're used to. I don't buy it.
>>744772115>Millions of people have been playing Palworld ironically and out of spite for 2 straight yearslmao!
>>744772119If they're bland, then why not suggest how to improve their looks instead of wanting an entirely new pal to "upgrade" to?You suggest for people to ignore the pre-evo in favor of the new evolution. That's not a good thing.
>>744772320cope coping
>>744772275That's not even the problem with the webm. There's so much trash and clutter that there's no reason to use any of it. Pointless clones of items with slight stat changes, that have no use other than to waste time, since enemies in the game are already laughably trivial to deal with.It hurts the game quite a bit that you can't choose to empty your inventory, like how Minecraft does it. Just giving you infinite non-weapon inventory space was a mistake.
>>744772391Kill yourself
>>744772345>then why not suggest how to improve their looks instead of wanting an entirely new pal to "upgrade" to?Pokemon based game, the idea is that improve comes in the Evolution.
>>744772420cope
evolution autist still sperging out.
>>744772513Kill yourself
What I want from Pokemon that it currently doesn't do>complex, well-designed maps and routes chock full of landmarks instead of linear corridors or empty open worlds>deep dungeons that promote and reward exploration>a huge variety of monsters and moves to find>non-linear but non-open gameplay>little to no handholding, reduced cutscenes outside of the bare minimum exposition>cohesive visual style instead of flanderized real-world locations or generic assets>more difficult enemy trainers, bosses, and legendaries that make me try different things and discover new concepts instead of relying on thirty-year-old muscle memory>less grinding, but not less challenge>new gimmicks that enhance turn-based combat and make it deeper and more interesting>more things to do with your Pokemon as friends instead of combat or exploitationWhat I don't want from Pokemon, which coincidentally is what Palworld does>open world gameplay>mining and punching trees>crafting>base building>generic visuals>a tech tree>voice acting>a complete genre shift or real-time combat mechanics>reducing the pokemon to tools or mechanicst. I love Palworld, it's just not what Pokemon is or ever should be. It actually has literally nothing in common with Pokemon other than featuring creatures.
>>744772537>>744772550Said the One-Stage autist... and coper.
>>744772460This goes against Palworld's philosophyYou want small pals only in your baseYou want small pals on the battlefield because their hitbox is smallerBig pals are a liability, and you should stop using them
>>744768325You're assuming Gamefreak, who can barely make a functional game, is going to be able to make as good base building as what Palworld has?
>>744772660I said it before, Palworld can do better what Pokemon flawed over the Years.Also, i am not going to the endgame carring with me something like this.
>>744772607Kill yourself
>>744772749Question, is the spider in the image a real pokemon or a fakemon?
>>744772785cope over and over
>>744772798>real pokemonare you serious...?
>>744771790BUT I NEED TO FORCE EVERYONE ELSE TO PLAY THE WAY I WANT THEM TO PLAY!Clearly the correct thing to do is engage in a multiple year brigading operation that actually threatens the lives of everyone at Pocketpair until they obey ME and only ME and make only the game I want them to make! FOR ME! NOBODY ELSE BUT ME ME ME FUCKING ME!Is that tiny inconsequential bit of validation really too much to ask for?
>>744772749You can't beat the final boss with big pals, she has a laser that instantly kills anything over a certain height
>>744772874Kill yourself
>>744772929Well is it?
MISUTA MERRI- wtf
>>744773015Even so, the little ones are supposed to be a beginner's tutorial; they're designed to be weak and easy to kill—it's part of their design.
Pokemon should've kept the devs who specialized in making 2D and portable games on a budget for decades, to just making those same 2D games. And then used their billions of dollars to hire talent that was actually good at making 3D stuffBut I think Gamefreak doesn't want to relinquish their control of their prime license to any other studio. Nor do they want to expand the numbers on their day to day operations, even when Nintendo forced their hand after ending the DS lineup.Resulting in multiple projects where their golden goose comes out of the oven half-baked. Or fucking raw, in the case of the Switch games./food analogyReminds me of something similar that happened with Konami and Castlevania. They had a whole metroidvania team that was happy just to keep making those games, which sold a modest profit on very limited budget. But Konami wanted to ape Western trends, and chase entirely different audiences/big money. So they axed the tried and proven team, and put all their eggs in another basket.Now look at the state of that franchise.
>>744773016copernaitor
>>744773090YES
Litten's official evolution line is awful compared to all of the fan designs.I also wish we had gotten the clown.
>>744773242Kill yourself
>>744773428copercoper
>>744773494Kill yourself
>>744773174These little ones can shoot death lasers and summon rains of fireballs, they're only weak when they're low level
fuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyou
>>744769913they nerfed her too much in 1.0 when the red spheres fall off pretty quickly
reminder every new fakemon that gets created, it is a concept gamefreak will never touch (as shown in the leaks), which is why the designs keep getting worse
>>744773594suffering of success is real
>>744773235I'd kill for another 2D mainline game
>>744773515copercopercopercoper.
>>744773836Kill yourself
>>744773554and yet they still look boring, if these ones could evolve they could be not so boring.
>>744773870C
>>744773964Kill yourself
>>744773916You posted a good picture to invalidate your argumentRalts and Kirlia are 10x more interesting than Gardevoir, yet I'd never be able to use them in endgame battlesIf Ralts, Kirlia, and Gardevoir were separate species, with similar statlines, that would be WAY better
>>744773975O
>>744727218palGAWDS
>We have our own schizo nowBased
>>744774008Kill yourself
>>744773995So as this chicken could have some good evolution.
>>744773916Many Pokemon stay boring, or even outright get worse after evolving.
>>744774064Kill yourself
>>744774057P
>>744773995>>744774064Me personally I think Ralts and Gardevoir should disappear, leave me with just Kirlia
>>744774125Kill yourself
>>744774113>>744774158E
>>744773916chikipi is the 6th most popular pal in the game, so maybe your taste is just shit
>>744774104Modern ones are just lame
>>744774169Kill yourself
>>744774208>so maybe your taste is just shiti should ask that to you, one-stage.
>>744774471C.O.P.E
>>744774593Kill yourself
>>744774649E
>>744774708Kill yourself
>>744774030poketroons just cant help themselves
>>744774169>>744774593At this point I'm starting to suspect you're false-flagging, because there's no way anyone thinks these shit designs look good. The godzilla newt makes Baxcalibur look like Ogerpon.
>>744774749P
>>744774798Kill yourself
>>744774761>>744774851O
>>744774864Kill yourself
all me
>>744774902C
>>744774938Kill yourself
>>744772929Do you seriously know every pokemon?
>>744774958E.P.O.C
>>744775085Kill yourself
>>744773174Powering up the little one into a sleeper death machine has its own appeal. It's the same thing that makes people beat racing games with a starter shitbox
>>744775012I do Play pokemon Go, so yeah.
>>744775104
>>744775194Kill yourself
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>>744775274Kill yourself
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>>744775324Kill yourself
>>744775346
>>744774938It's honestly impressive how every single one you've posted is bad without exception. The closest to a good design is the bug fairy but the posing of the evo is atrocious.
>>744775391>>744775413
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>>744733746This has to be emulation
>>744775553
>>744775583Kill yourself
>>744775607
>>744775639Kill yourself
>>744775686
>>744728878Nintendo owns 23% of gamefreak
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>>744775835
>>744775540It could be, but I distinctly remember a streamer at launch playing and laughing at these same graphical glitches. Definitely playing on native hardware too because they are a massive tendie.
>>744775875Kill yourself
>>744727218Nintendo could have made that, Game Freak couldn't
>>744775885
>>744775916Kill yourself
>>744732115Why make a Pokémon competitor when you have some ownership of Pokémon itself
I'm starting to wonder if the anti pal shitposters even like pokemon
>>744775948
>>744775540It's not.https://youtu.be/rf71qMGcQZg?si=01Q7_V41VJoxtovW&t=206
i won
>>744775413how about this one?
>>744776358congrats you won the most autistic pokedrone award
>>744776501Siiiiiiiiiiiiiigghhhhh
>>744776498That's just a digimon
>>744776558Literally how.
>>744776614Seadramon rip off
>>744776649
>>744727218Ark is on the Switch though. Only an insane person would play it on the Switch but it is.
>gets unanimously called a retard for wanting evolutions in palworld>proceeds to have a thread long meltyI knew poketroons were autistic but this one must be a special kind of autistic.Seethe, cope and dilate as much as you want, Palworld will never have that shitty evolution mechanic, even the devs themselves confirmed that they don't want that blight anywhere near Palworld.
>>744776827cope is eternal i see.
>>744776750Are these even real pokemon?
>>744776827>wweposter>basedevery time
>>744776886it's just some guy spamming deviantart fakemonsas if the pokemon roster wasn't bloated beyond repair already
GameFreak intentionally crippling cool designs is baffling. Like....why? It makes no fucking sense.It feels like GF was getting tired of Pokemon by gen 3 and then REALLY wanted out by gen 5. Now they simply do not care anymore and it shows.
>>744776886no, fakemon, but judge the design.
>>744776959This one impressed me.https://x.com/Roblox/status/2011969252203643197
>>744776875Yep, looks like you will never run out of copium, and you better not because you will need it for the rest of your life.
>>744776649*Kingdramon*Horseamon
>>744777034said the one-stage anon.
>>744776886Just some tendie having a melty, you know, the usual.
yet another EASY palVICTORY
>>744776827are you blind?arrest yourself and go to bed, indeed they will never add more than 9 types.
>>744777147hi
>>744777169>they will never add more than 9 typesGOOD, the less bloat the better.
>>744776959I never liked the whole "thing but pokemon" design philosophy.It's too bad machoke exists. A modern man pokemon would've been hilarious
>>744777252Mmmmm... donuts
>>744771770Evolution exists in Digimon because they're based on Tamagotchi's where you only have one pet. It doesn't make sense for a series where you're many to collect and use dozens. And that includes Pokemon. Anyone competitive only cares about movesets, abilities and stats not evolutions. Anyone casual only cares about getting their favourite. The mechanic fundamentally offers nothing.
>>744777305is not really that bad honestly.
>>744777348>Urp
>>744772052>>744771934>>744771867>>744771770>>744772297arrest>also littleo does not have a middle stage
>>744777512
>>744777381Evolution shows a growth in a fun fictional way. A woman doesn't just shit out a fully sized human. How autistic does one need to be to not understand this?
>>744777383Well those ones aren't so bad, there's a little bit of originality there. I'm talking more like flamigo, trubbish and whatever the bridge is called. There's a few gen 1 pokemon that I almost don't like for the same reason but the art style carries them
>>744777554A human doesn't stay as a toddler for 18 years then suddenly transform into an adult
>>744727218They could have but all they do is make handheld sloppa. But worse than that, its all remakes lolol
>>744776498Reminder that he sold that to an unknown client.
>>744734048>people were paid to say this game was a 9/10
>>744734048Which gamecube game was this?
This thread was part ninte's defending a garbage and declining series. Furries posting pal characters in sexy poses and people arguing over which mechanics they want in palworld.
>>744753164 sneed for a homoautist wallmartcattle, foreigner sperg
>>744758840He's so cute and dumb.
>>744759925My super cure cute gf (male).
>>744762593Keep fighting your shadow war, soldier.
>>744772391>>744772513>>744772874arrest arresting over and over>>744773494>>744773836arrester to beyond
>>744769571>my screenie getting repostedFeels kinda nice, ngl.
>>744772607said the criminal scum under arrest>>744773964>>744774008>>744774708>>744774798ARR
>>744774125>>744774169>>744774864>>744774938EST>>744773242arrestinator
