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It just feels so soulless. And the NPCs somehow look worse
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Just like the original
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>>744733185
you can bring back some of the soul with a simple reshade. gets rid of the washed out colors. Not sure about the fog but there's probably a mod for it. Other than that yeah argonians look like fucking shit but the rest of them I think are fine. I also haven't gone through the shivering isles in the remaster yet.
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>>744733308
Shut up zoomer
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>>744733185
Paddle combat in the original wasn't great but they somehow made combat feel even worse
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The Le Soul! It is Le Gone!
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>>744733185
it's a good enough time for a remake
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>>744733185
Vanilla Oblivion was always soulless. It's only bearable with mods that fix shit like level Scaling and the leveled lists.

The remaster has even less mod support last I checked.
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>>744733308
FPBP
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>>744733308
FPBP and truth nuke
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>739x415
I see OP took a fullscreen screenshot from their laptop.
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>>744733185
that looks way fucking better than the original, fcking tard
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>>744736127
You just don't get it zoomer
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The easiest method of finding out if someone is a third world brown shitskin is asking them about remakes such like this

Brown subhumans don't understand things like art direction and aesthetic, they lack the deeper humanity aspected required for that. Their simplistic brain simply thinks better technology = better graphics.
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>>744736203
Go look at the original, fucking boomer
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>>744736667
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>>744736863
holy sovl
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>>744736863
OG oblivion doesn't look like this without mods
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>>744736863
that's modded
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>>744736982
>>744736986
coping hard
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>>744733185
UE5 is just so soulless bros
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>>744736260
vanilla oblivion had terrible art direction
remake isnt much better - and works 10 times worse

oblivion is easily the worst tes game, and biggest gaming disappointment
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>change oblivions gameplay to janky ass clunky skyrim where the movement has been fully raped.
Yea no skyrim is worse in every way. Retarded project
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>>744737068
Vanilla Oblivion doesn't have LODs like that
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>>744737092
this is the ue remake which means its absolute garbage shit
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>>744737068
I mean it's just a fact. I did a massive oblivion playthrough a couple years ago and I distinctly remember the base LOD not going that high
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>>744736982
>>744736986
That's vanilla. I personally love Oblivions artstyle and refuse to install mods.
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>>744733185
And niggas here want bethesda to ditch creation engine 3 in favor of unreal engine 5 lmao
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>>744737092
Movement feels even worse than skyrim. Whatever shitty baked in physics UE5 has gives your PC in remastered weird inertia. And combat somehow feels worse than OG oblivion and skyrim other than being able to cast a spell with your hands full
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>>744737261
Its vanilla with modified tweaks to set the view distance higher than what the game otherwise allows you to you disingenuous fuck
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>>744733185
Too much definition scares the soul away.
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>>744737261
>posts screenshot with obvious tweaks to fix the view distance and lighting
>"its vanilla guys"
Kill yourself
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>>744737407
>>744737116
Ah yeah you're right, I installed an LOD mod. But I didn't install any texture or lighting mods
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>>744737601
run vanilla oblivion and see what it looks like during sunset fucking retard
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>>744733308
>it looks worse then the original
>"just like the original"
:^)

That aside, oblivion really aged like shit
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>race: Orc
>heavy armor, greatsword, conjuration, acrobatics
Yeah, it's gaming time
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What’s your favorite vannila class in oblivion? Be that because of the skills, vibe or even just the illustration.
I've always been partial to pilgrim, skills are all over the place but that picture is just great and the class fantasy is cool.
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>>744738456
>vanilla class
Assuming that we will not take into account how shit level-scaling is in Oblivion, Witchhunter. Sorcerer, Crusader, Spellsword, Agent, Assassin are also fun.
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>years of grifters saying the game gets too hard and thinking +5 attributes/efficient leveling is the only way to circumvent the issue (when it isn't even the answer to scaling well with the game)
>they convince people to play the game doing dumb shit like inverting your major/minor skills so your build involves skills you don't want to use
>virtuous get their hands on the game and balance it accordingly to these grifter/UESP comments over the last 15 years
It's insane how the combat feels worse in the remaster. If you played the conventional spellsword or utilised any source of magic you'd probably still enjoy things but the lack of stagger for traditional fighter builds is awful for combat. Also 2 handed got completely shitcanned
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>>744733308
fpbp, raped and gaped that faggot whore
>>744733437
Your dogshit game came out in 06, you wannabe boomer faggot retard.
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>>744736863
>5120x2880
Cool original, dumbfuck
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>>744738456
Sorcerer/Spellsword don't feel totally gimped and are fun. Assassin is decent it's just the Stealth spec makes it a drag to level comparatively.
I really like Nightblade but it's hard to not make a custom variant with at least Illusion.
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>>744739742
2 handed feels fucking AWFUL in the remaster its unreal
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>>744733185
>art direction is the one thing aside from the music the game is universally praised for
>demaster decided to butcher it
I don't get it. It's like they wanted it to flop.
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>>744733185
oblivion was always soulless and dumbed down shit
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>>744736863
Soul overload
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>>744740085
>>art direction is the one thing aside from the music the game is universally praised for
xDDD
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>>744733308
It's over for Oblibabs
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>>744740085
yeah everyone praises the overdone bloom and generic lotr fantasy design
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The nostalgia faggots ITT have for fallout 3 with swords is the same nostalgia zoomers will have for skyrim
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>>744740071
I was playing original a few months back, picked up a daedric claymore with 20 shock damage while playing a short blade character. Forgot how absolutely powerful that kind of weapon makes you feel, effortless.
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>>744740383
No one has nostalgia for Skyrim because Skyrimfags never stopped playing it thanks to the bazillion mods.
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>>744739954
Nightblade has a very strange skill selection for some reason. That’s admittedly one class I always alter to include illusion as you said and also sneak.
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>>744733308
fpbp /thread OP utterly BTFO Oblivion sissies in shambles
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>>744739943
you dont need more than this
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>>744740607
Honestly the more I play the three games the more I realize oblivion is, in fact, the worst one
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>>744740362
>generic lotr fantasy design
The Morrowind thread is down the corridor to your left.
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>>744733185
Nice rose-tinted glasses, nostalgiafaggot.
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>>744733308
Fpbp game was dogshit even at launch
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>>744733437
Worst post-Daggerfall Elder Scrolls game btw
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>>744740362
You don't get it zoomer, you weren't there to see the massive cultural impact the lotr movies had on fantasy which had never been mainstream until then. And Oblivion released only 3 years after Return of the King, its not surprising that the movies were a massive influence because again, in the 2000s, the LOTR movies were still fresh and were massive influences on pop culture and video games
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>>744740693
I too remember the giant mushroom towers and bugs with exposed nervous systems used as taxis in Middle Earth, alongside the burried Heart of a God being used to power a mecha. Very Tolkien.
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>>744736863
thanks for conceding, that looks abysmal 'grats
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>>744740880
To be fair to Todd we all were enchanted by fellowship of the ring at the time
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>>744740861
>If you don't like Oblivion you're a Zoomer
R*tard it's a game for dementia patients, how do you not get tired of generic Ayleid Ruins #43 and Oblivion Gate #32 by the 20 hour point? It's literally all this soulless bootleg LotR slop is.
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>>744740880
Since your reading comprehension skills seem to not be at their best today, let me rephrase my post:
Only Morrowfags like you care about the setting being "unique". The rest of us are content with "generic LotR fantasy" if the game is fun. Go back to your thread and let us resume proper discussion.
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>>744736203
I'm a zoomer and this was my first ES game cope
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>>744740383
Oh anon... the demaster being a longterm failure and people ceasing to talk about it and play it a month after release shows that Oblivion nostalgia is pretty much not a real thing. Neither Morrowind nor Skyrim have that going for them because neither game ever stopped being played, they're both still prevalent and relevant to this day. Sorry to say but Oblivion was always the awkward middle child nobody really cared about outside of growing up with it.
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>>744741108
>R*tard
What the fuck are you doing here
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>>744733308
FPBP
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The oblivion remaster scammed me by lying and understating the minimum requirements
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>>744741301
Censoring your name bc you have a lesser opinion, dumbass.
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>>744740680
not a hot take. oblivion was literally only liked for the brief period of time when people went "holy shit, grafixx!!!"
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>>744741196
>Only Morrowfags like you care about the setting being "unique". The rest of us are content with "generic LotR fantasy"
Given how 85% of anons ITT are shitting on Oblivion, doesn't seem like it.
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>>744740680
HURF DURF YOU WEREN'T 16 PLAYING THE GAME ALL SUMMER ON LOW SETTINGS YOU DIDN'T EXPERIENCE IT AS INTENDED GTFO MY VIDYA LIL ZOOMER
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>>744741268
So true
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>>744741609
Actually I was and I was 14.
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>>744740861
>sorry your honor we NEEDED to make Cyrodiil more boring and with nonsensical world building that abandoned what was set up in the past, these movies were too popular!
>noooooooooooooo don't shit on the game pls we worked hard on it, noooo don't ask what happened to Mark and Recall or Levitation or the Imperial Navy or the Tharn doppelgängers it was too much work and we needed to hire Sean Bean for 30 lines aieeeeeeeee save me Terence Stamp!!!!!!
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>>744733185
It's westslop, what did you expect?
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>>744733185
i really enjoyed the remaster but i pirated the 1.0 release day and haven't since cause that shit is like 100gb
im not buying it either until israel gets dismantled or microsoft stops giving them money. honestly im thinking israel not being a country anymore is more likely at this point.
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Oblivion was the best one. The quests were best, the visual style was best, the NPC AI was the best, the environment variety was the best.

Fuck brown bug n' shroom Morrowind and backwater Skyrim
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>>744741196
The rest of us are in fact NOT content with generic slop.
First game was Oblivion (never cared for it much), but watched my dad play a little Morrowind as a kid, played Morrowind the other day and the writing and world building are leagues ahead of Oblivion it's unreal. As someone with a degree in social sciences/history, so I appreciate complex and layered histories and Morrowind scratches a part of my brain Oblivion can't. Even Skyrim has better worldbuilding lmao
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>>744741898
The quests were great in a series known for underwhelming quests. Compared to other rpgs oblivions still aren't very good
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>>744739943
different area, different weather, sea

epic
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>>744742020
nah the Dark Brotherhood questline is an all-timer
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I played the original for years ever since release, last time around pic related and played the remaster on launch and found it very soulful.
Even started making ambience mods for it.
Live in Bruma because never spent much time there in the original and the new weather effects look good.
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>>744742207
Oblivitards literally all cope-grasp onto the DB quest. Calm down, we get it, it had a neat plot twist.
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>>744742207
Yeah, an all-time warning of why you shouldn't hire someone as head writer just because he made one good story
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>>744742207
Settle down Emil
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>>744740861
The irony being that nearly 30 years later, the LOTR trilogy still stands out as one of the best series of movies ever made especially at their scale, while Oblivion is Oblivion: relegated to the butt of jokes, remembered solely for "Oblivion NPCs in real life" type videos.
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>>744742298
meanwhile Skyrim has nothing but stinkers and Morrowind is a bunch of fetch quest busywork outside the main story.
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>>744742207
It really isn't. You liked individual beats that didn't add up to a whole, that's it: the dude that conveniently sits below the mounted head you can drop, the murder mystery where you're the murderer, going backwards through the tutorial and killing your jail mate... how do they tie to the overarching plot of the DB? They don't, they're not only all disconnected but the gimmick doesn't even last the entire questline. People only ever talk about the first half of the DB, because Emil ran out of steam for the second half and so it turns into radiant quest style generic assassinations where random dudes are located in random caves or basements and there's no fun gimmick accompanying the kills this time around.
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>>744737787
And it's one of the most broken pieces of shit of a game that requires shitton of fixes if you use Windows 10. Even fucking music is buggy as fuck. Though I still like it, even if not as much as the rest of the games.
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>>744742608
Morrowind’s main quest is some of its worst conent imo. The whole prophecy section is nothing but busywork.
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>>744742608
In Morrowind you literally deal with immortal beings and back-stabbing plots and intrigue (somewhere similar to the DB quest if you involve yourself in House politics, just not as over-the-top). Skyrim also has THE plotline that everyone talks about constantly (Civil War), far more than anything else in the series. The DB quest just like every quest in Oblivion was systematically not complex whatsoever (except for that single time where you got to dismount that animal's head so it crash-kills that one guy), typically amounting to "go to X generic cave and kill Y". There's nothing particularly special about Oblivion, because most of its interesting elements are just in its writing (but its writing as a whole is still the weakest of the three), and not a genuinely unique tactile experience, because Bethesda games never really get complex mechanics.
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>>744742608
Killing the body double Emperor then being betrayed, seeing your Sanctuary in flames and going to a boat to kill Wes Johnson was utter kino you pleb.
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>>744743418
The civil war plotline is a whole lot of fucking nothing because there are no good writers at Bethesda since Kirkbride left well over a decade ago, I have no idea how zoomers have talked about it for over a decade
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>>744743606
Same way we've talked about In My Time of Need or Paarthurnax being Hitler's second in command turned hippie.
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>>744743572
Skyrim's DB was cringe as fuck and I was glad they all got killed
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>>744733327
This, I cranked the saturation up to fever dream levels and it improved my experience instantly. I fucking hate bland grey colors and I don't understand why devs keep doing it
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>>744743606
>Kirkbride
>good writer
Morrowind is good despite that self-hating feminist.
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>>744743916
And as we both know there's nothing cringe or edgelordy about the Oblivion BDSM club.
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>>744733185
That’s what you get when you apply minimum viable product philosophy.
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>>744733308
lmao fpbp
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>>744733437
Oblivion didn't even look good when it released.
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>>744742603
That's bad. When I started a playthrough, I would actually go out of my way to steel Blackwood armor. I wouldn't do that in this case.
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>niggas really said the UE5 slopfest looked better than this
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>>744743572
Those robes are atrocious. Skyrim has very little in terms of drip. Same with Oblivion.
>fancy black robes
>they are all pre-enchanted
>fancy armor
>pre-enchanted
>no way to get unenchanted version so you can enchant it yourself
Fuck off with that design. There is a guy responsible for all that shit at bethesda.
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>>744733308
Uh oh...
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>>744733185
Can you remove the fog/haze? Because that shit looks awful.
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>>744746442
Pre-enchanted gear is fine, and the best way to play even Morrowind. The moment the player gets to make retardedly OP enchantments no NPC can do anything against, it's over.
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>>744745946
that's not even your picture, you guys are so cringe, there's no need to be such posers
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>>744746601
You can
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>>744746916
When pre-enchanted gear is worse than what you can make on average, its not good. More so on rare/artefact items that are supposedly completely above your skill and capabilities. And while Morrowind has plenty of neat artefacts and the "cast-when-used" option, Oblivion and Skyrim eat dirt in that regard.
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>>744747513
>When pre-enchanted gear is worse than what you can make on average
Double backstab damage and default Muffle aren't worse than your average low level enchants by a long shot.
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>>744747315
It is though, but what difference would it make?
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>>744745946
Because it almost objectively does
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>>744740880
looks fucking cool though and mogs roman copy-paste armor
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>>744749365
Nothing about this is Roman. It's very clear Todd saw the Gondorian armor in LOTR and said "add this to oblivion"
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>>744749453
>Nothing about this is Roman
yeah, im making the point that i dont like the imperial armor in Skyrim and Morrowind, it just doesnt quite fit the theme for me
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>>744749365
Said nobody ever.

>>744749453
Learn how to read.
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>>744749365
It really doesn't.

>>744749628
>it just doesnt quite fit the theme for me
Yeah because you're a retard who doesn't actually like TES lore and or appreciate roman history and just want generic Medieval Timesâ„¢ slop and that's fine but you can just admit it instead of trying to play these mental games
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>>744737073
I'm a Morrowind kinda guy myself but Oblivion is better than Skyrim
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>>744748482
>double backstab
Cute. About a single instance of something useful. Got any others?
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Oblivitards fail to understand that LotR was good because it created the fantasy genre as we know it. It wasn't trying to represent anything but its own written lore. It wasn't trying to be a second-rate copy of something else. It's authentic and original by its very nature.

That's where Oblivion failed.
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>>744733185
NPCs are an abomination
original mogs hard
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>>744750309
Oblivion has the absolutely worst world-building by far of any TES game.
Sorry but:
Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion
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>>744733308
fpbp

Oblivion isn't bad, it is just bland.
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>>744733308
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>>744736863
If only the LODs and draw distance in vanilla Oblivion actually looked like this. Instead you get a massive ruin phasing into existence just a hundred feet ahead of you.
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>>744750358
LOTR was good because it spoke to European ancestral blood memory. If Morrowind appeals to you, what does that say about your lineage?
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>>744750775
What a bizarre thing to say
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>>744750710
Kek fucking this

I was replaying Oblivion before the Remaster drop and was annoyed that farms and farmhands and etc. were just popping in like 5 ft in front of me, so when the remake dropped I just hopped over bc that shit was pissing me off and ruining my immersion.
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>>744750423
As long as you've got Morrowind on top then you're my nigga but I disagree. What was so bad about the world building? At least Oblivion was still mechanically TES. Skyrim was the biggest step of the dumbing down.
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>>744750775
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>>744750342
>anon cannot read
Many such cases. Okay, how about 40% more stamina when your average amulet gives 15% at most? Both Lockpicking and One-Handed 25% at the same time in a single enchantment? 30 points of Frost Damage and Paralyze at the same time? The same Frost Damage, with also 15 of Shock and slowing the target 50%? 70% more Magicka? A combo set wth 60% more Stamina, 40 more points of Carry Weight, 40% more One-Handed and Waterbreathing +100 Armor?
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You now realize that every new game is brown because that's what the outside looks like for jeets developing all of it.
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>>744733185
Worse than Halo Campaign Devolved desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sBFzW17VaA
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>>744733185
Does it have higher resolution nude mods than Skyrim?
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>>744750775
1. You're retarded and this is a stretch
2. The British loved romanticizing foreign cultures they conquered, even if they thought them savages. Romans sometimes did this too btw. And Yamnaya and Greeks were not above this either. European culture is built on a foundation of wandering men with fascination for whats outside of their realm.
2. The entire world-building of Morrowind and the Elder Scrolls is passed-down heritage of autistic high IQ European mean doing fantasy world-building in their freetime, this is not a "foreign passtime"
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>>744749365
>the most generic starter gear from 90% of RPGs out there
>"looks fucking cool though and mogs"
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>>744733185
Game runs like ass while looking like a ps4 game lmao
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>>744751179
Yeah it definitely does not look like a ps4 game but it does run like ass
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Nice discord raid
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How did they manage to make combat WORSE than OG Oblivion?
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>>744751262
cope harder
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>>744751361
It's actually better btw
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>>744750309
Nobody that has actually played the game at some point in the last 10 years earnestly believes this.
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>>744733308
Uncs weren't ready for this TRVKE
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>>744751434
Objectively untrue
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>>744751004
>Okay, how about 40% more stamina when your average amulet gives 15% at most
You can make your own amulet with >40% stamina regen + one more enchantment. Avergae amulets are level scaled, so once you hit lvl threshold, 40% is something you find lying under your feet.
>Both Lockpicking and One-Handed 25% at the same time in a single enchantment
>30 points of Frost Damage and Paralyze at the same time?
>The same Frost Damage, with also 15 of Shock and slowing the target 50%
You can make your own one that is far better than that. Your entire argument falls flat unless player doesnt do enchanting. And you always do your own enchanting because you never rely on game's loot probabilities.

All that you have posted does not hold candle to high-end items in Oblivion either - stuff like Mundane Amulet, Amulet of Blades/Axes, Ring of Iron Fists, Ring of Vitality (one with three immunities), Sorceror's Ring, Sorceror's Helmet, etc.
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>>744751540
Objectively true kek but nice cope nostalgiafaggot
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>>744733308
fpbp
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>>744751590
>You can make your own
Anon, can you read your own posts? I can do the same and more in Morrowind compared to Wraithguard, I thought we were discussing the "on average" mentioned in >>744747513? You do not, in fact, make a 40% stamina enchantment on average, and you especially don't do a double enchant """on average""" given the perk that allow you to do that, Extra Effect, is literally the very last perk in the perk tree which requires 100 Enchanting. I'm not gonna bother reading the rest given how unfathomably retarded this first attempt at a reply was btw.
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>>744751361
They fucked with animations. They replaced directional attacks that you get from perks with nonsense, changed base animations too. Thats how. OG Oblivion's were fine, just needed skills to give more damage, and maybe do shit like dual-wileding and 1-handing a 2-handed sword when at 100 strength, shield bash would be nice too. Instead they fucked up animations, fucked with damage formulas, did not rework damage sources, and so we end up with rancid shit.
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>>744742207
It's alright. It's been completely astroturfed by retards like you.
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>>744733185
Using a 2 hander in the remaster makes me want to cut my balls off
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>>744741268
>demaster being a longterm failure
Why would I want to play vanilla Oblivion with "better" graphics that uses UE5 and runs like shit? It's not even worth launching without mods.
What are you expecting me to do, the fucking main quest? I skipped it with every single character after the first playthrough.
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>>744751868
>I can do the same and more in Morrowind compared to Wraithguard
No you cannot unless you mod the game. You cannot make a Wraithguard-equivalent, hell, you cannot even make anything close to it. That is what makes it genuinely unique and valuable. Same with a whole host of items. But you can make other stuff, and so your enchanted items compliment artefacts and uniques and vice versa.
>on average
Do you know what on average means? Let me explain to you - no restoration loop, no potions, no boost from that black book - just your enchantment skill at 100 with whatever perks you selected especially the double effect one, and a grand soul in a soul gem. Thats the average. At maximum you are effectively breaking the game with restoration loop and boosts, and end up with fortfy "effect" by n^x. At minimum you have a grand soul and just plain enchatment skill at value below 100.

TLDR: Blow it out your ass, you spastic autist.
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>>744751435
>in the last 10 years
Did something happen to it? Did it change?
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>>744751881
The combat in OG Oblivion does feel like shit because all animations are janky and floaty, and all creature/armor/weapon models are ugly. Morrowind somehow feels much better, though Skyrim somehow manages to feel even worse.
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>>744752756
Nostalgia started kicking in.
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>>744752952
Not a real thing.
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>>744752410
>No you cannot
I can very much make far more powerful enchanted gear armor than what you can find in the world, and far faster. Level 1, in fact, because that's how Morrowind rolls.
>Do you know what on average means?
More than you seem to, that's for damn sure. Here, I'll help you. "Something that is ordinary, standard, middle of the road, average". In case your brain couldn't compute that: the best enchanters in the world, with 100 Enchanting and all perks in their perk tree? They're not your average. The best blacksmiths in the world, with 100 Enchanting and ability to craft daedric gear? They're not your average. I'm really sorry you don't know how words work and that it's coming back to bite you in the ass hard, but it's not really my problem. Either get with the program and stop dropping your spaghetti because you've been caught and have no way out, or your bait's not gonna enjoy any more (You)s, my dear schizo.
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>>744750139
its too period specific and it makes no attempt to modify it, the nordic armors and the oblivion armors are obvious takes from medieval era but its heavily stylized, there was no such attempts with morrowind and skyrim imperial armors
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>>744751154
>most generic looking chad
>still cool though and mogs
some things are timeless
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>>744740085
>art direction is the one thing aside from the music the game is universally praised for
What the fuck? No it fucking isn't.
People were clowning Todd hard for abandoning the alien art direction of morrowind to chase after lotr back when the game came out.
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>nothing relevant without sexmods
The story of bethesda
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>>744733308
FPBP
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I'm playing oblivion (remaster) for the first time and.....

This game is so extremely empty and boring, holy shit. What's the point of having a huge world if there's nothing in it??

Now I know that all the people who claim that Oblivion is better than Skyrim are contrarian faggots
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>>744750860
>What was so bad about the world building
There's none, that's what bad about it.
They threw away all the previous Cyrodiil lore (which was even more schizo than Morrowind's) and replaced it with shit not just generic, but repetitive in that the regions are all the same in everything worldbuilding wise, the only difference is assets for houses and to some degree the environment.
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>>744754324
Morrowind had a very tight world where you couldn't walk two meters without a cave or a plantation or a town. Skyrim filled the world between dungeons with random encounters and unmarked locations, some of which updated depending on quest progression (doing the Companions means finding their members out and about on jobs, getting daedric artifacts can have Vigilants of Stendarr attacking you, etc.). Oblivion, as with most other things, was the middle of the road that lacked the RPG details of the former and the refinement of the latter.
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>>744741609
>HURF DURF YOU WEREN'T 16 PLAYING THE GAME ALL SUMMER
I was 14, coming off a couple years of Morrowind.
My disappointment was immeasurable back then, but it was on me really. Tribunal and Bloodmoon should have already made me understand what is blatantly obvious today: Bethesda has always been a studio of shitters who caught lightning in a bottle with Morrowind. Even the fandom's beloved lost talent Kirkbride only wrote trash in his unofficial lore additions.
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>>744755310
They should've made a proper remake instead of just upgrading the graphics (which don't even fit the original artstyle)

But of course, they did the bare minimum as they knew that goymers would fall for the nostalgia bait and all the quirky oblivion maymays
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>>744733437
Oblivion is a zoomer game, retard.
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Oblivion is the first strand type game. Both versions should be played, ideally one after the other.
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>>744733185
100 yard pop in range
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I found a way to make anons like Oblivion again...
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>>744747513
Most bis stuff is actually artefacts, since they break item enchantment limits. Off the top of my head, the mentor's ring, randagulf fists, the skull helm, aevar's mace, the sun damage robe in bm
I don't think it's a bad thing that the player can make better shit than generic emchantments. There would be no point in the skill otherwise.
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>>744750775
Lotr as a narrative maybe.
Noone's blood memeory is stirred by a plastic rendition of gondor's armor or shire-like cottages and woodland, it's stirred by shit like the ride of the rohirrim.
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>>744755909
uoooooooooh making a new Septim heir with Martina!!!!
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>>744733185
I remember that for a few weeks after the launch the UESP Wiki had a bugs fixed and bugs introduced page. The bugs introduced page was like 3 times bigger than the bugs fixed page.
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>>744750775
Jesus, anon, you can't just gut punch people like that.
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>>744740607
you are right but oblivion OG at least retained a good skybox and the demake somehow makes it worse
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>>744733185
>weird afterimage effect near edges of objects in motion
>new combo system adds nothing
>enemies dont alert each other
>game is extremely resource intensive
>zero mod support
yeah stinky, but I will buy the FONV remaster if it isnt a UE5 slop remake
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>>744755909
>Open Elder Scrolls thread
>Always find this artist
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>>744758757
Hey it took 180 posts this time around, make a Morrowind thread and he'll be in the first 20 replies.
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>>744742207
It was GOAT until the dead drops.
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>>744752896
OG Oblivion's combat is not exactly Dark Messiah's one, but miles better than anything else, especially Skyrim's.
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>>744753610
>I can very much make far more powerful enchanted gear armor than what you can find in the world, and far faster. Level 1, in fact
Dayum n'wah. Really. Lie, but dont stretch it.
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>>744733308
That's right
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>>744760923
Oblivion's combat is some of the worst of all time. It's as bad as Morrowind, it just swaps out random missing for HP bloat. Skyrim's combat is a big step up even though it is bad too.
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>morrowtrannies still seething at ObliviSOVL all these decades later
lmao
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>>744755909
Salsa
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>>744733308
FPBP. Bugfesta slop deserves no praise.
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>>744761668
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/ratopombo/martina-septim-greatest-empress-of-the-septim-dynasty
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I played both about a year apart and did not give a shit. The de-greening of the environments was the only thing wrong with the remake and the other improvements make up for it, including most of the other aesthetic changes (the facial animations and excessive bloom in the original are fucking terrible)
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>>744733308
You are simply not ensouled, that's all.
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>>744761480
Losing the dedicated casting button makes skyrim significantly worse imo
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>>744761903
Fuck off with your soul nonsense
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>>744756660
That is still the case.
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>>744733185
>pay some jeet 'lowest bidder' slopware company to remake your game

Of course it's a disaster. Fuck remakes, literally just tricking your fanbase and feeding them low-budget rushed slop with UE5 shaders.
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>>744761480
Ok, which games have better combat?



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