>mixed reviews>sub 50% rating>need a PSN account for EVERYTHING>not even 25k launch on PC>no crossplay>Console version is shitty tooHOLY
>>744840165I hate capeshit
It has crossplay between ps5 and pc though
>>744840165DSP has been playing it and says it’s garbage.
>>744840165>>Console version is shitty too-ACK
>>744840165is it actually bad or are the Chinese mad about something
wtf do i play now?sad day
>>744840165>no crossplaythat's a good thing though
>>744840986PC cant run it?
>>744840918it costs twice as muchwhich is why they sabotaged the PC version to make people pay up
>>744840165>no crossplayisn't there crossplay with pc/snoy?
>>744841054it's the same price
>>744840986Iron Nest
>>744840796Okay. You know how many current fighters have crossplay between EVERY or 3+ platforms and don't need a Playstation account? Go on, guess. I'll wait.
>>744841115keys are sold for 50the game is 70 on PSNthen you have to pay PSN+ for every month you want to play the game
>>744840917Lightbulb head says every game is garbage
>>744840165who?
>>744840986If you want a fightan, I guess the new Avatar game is actually good. Try that one out
>>744841175Okay so you're admitting you lied lmaoAlso ps5 and pc are the two most commonly used platforms for fighting games no one is playing on Switch or Xbox in 2026. You're mindbroken.
Why does Sony shove in PSN shit with PC games anyways?
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>steamdb ratingHow do you get that?
normalfags do not care about fighting games past the initial fotm period, and the fgc has been dead since covid. find a new genre of games
>>744840165What's the extension that shows this extra info on the store page?
>>744840165>>need a PSN account for EVERYTHINGOnline Xbox games on PC like Forza and Halo require a Microsoft account for online, but no one complains about those. Why is it suddenly a problem when PlayStation does it?
>can't buy Cap classic skin separately
>>744841264Lied about what? Where is the lie? You think I'm OP, you dumbass?
>>744841409>sf6 slop mechanicsDoA
>>744840523This. Just fucking die already with these garbage comic IPs
>>744840165>need a PSN account for EVERYTHINGThey announced this well in advance, you couldn't even get it in the regions you can't have a playstation accountstill you would think they would have given up on this after how badly it hurt helldivers
>>744841409It's not too late for them to take the chance to censor DA Noel
>>744841527https://steamdb.info/extension/
>>744841409>slime impact in fucking melty bloodThe absolute fucking state of fighting games right now.
>>744841739If your not OP then you're the number 1 OP dickride defender and that's even more pathetic
>>744841289To up their psn numbers.
>>744840918>3.5k
>>744840165I enjoyed the story at least but yeah Sony really fucked this launch
>>744840165>know PC version isn't going to work>sell pre-orders for 45 dollarsSony are some crafty assholes I'll give them that
>>744840165>psn requiredWell, fuck.When are they gonna learn with this shit.
>>744842639that's how many ratings it has, yes
>>744841529If I gave the slightest shit about forza or halo, I'd complain about that too.
Sucks that Arc was wasted on dumb superhero shit instead of making an anime game that people would actually like and play
>>744841529people already have a microsoft account
>>744841529Those are established series. This is a brand new game.
>>744843490You're retarded if you have a microsoft account. They're the private technology arm of the US government.
>>744843489like Strive?? lol
>>744840165It took me 3 hours to compile shaders and then the game crashed. I can't even refund this piece of shit because I'm part the 3 hour mark and the steam customer service told me to fuck off. Anyway I'm sure this game is great on PS5 but you know what would be even better? Passing the Save America Act.
>>744840523I can simp some capeshit nostalgia but making it anime was too far for me.
>>744840165If this game sells less than any Marvel vs Capcom, Capcom wins.
>>744840963How to the Chinese have such cohesion that they can completely tank a game's reputation on a whim? They all hate each other and are just waiting for the CCP to fuck up so they can go into their centurial civil war. What is it about games that brings them together and why cant whites have even a faction of that racial cohesion?
>>744840963>>744844652the chinese literally arent even playing it
>>744843489>that people would actually like and playnot if Sony was still the publisher and shoving all this anti cheat shit
>>744841207King knows what he’s talking about when it comes to fighting games.
>>744844652They don't hate each other. You've spent your life forming your idea of China via literal CIA propaganda. They're an advanced harmonious ethnostate that does calisthenics together publicly every day. They have basically no crime and you're basically a pale nigger monkey. Go do another world war against people who look just like you, pale retard.
>>744840523fpbp
>>744840165>petty irrelevant PC problemsBuy better parts or STFUGame is flawless on PS5 Pro.Marvel Talk, I can't believe Voyager made it into this game
>>744844929>They don't hate each other.anon we've all seen the liveleaks they don't bat at an eye at each other dying
>>744844164if it took 3 hours to compile shaders something is wrong with your computer.
Things we could've gotten instead of diaper shit>Arcsys Jojo fighter>Arcsys VS Street fighter
>>744840165>no crossplayWait really? Hasn't ASW done that before? I assumed Sony would be fine with PS5/steam crossplay.
>>744845305it does have crossplay
>>744845264>Jojoextremely homoerotic anime
>>744840986>wtf do i play now?super cosplay war ultra infinity
>>744845383Speedwagon is the best waifu so your opinion is invalid
>>744845383>Gay is when men existNice self report
>>744845109>Marvel TalkFavorite story I liked Amazing Guardians ending best but Samurai Outriders has the best team chemistry, also gameplay wise I really think they do a good job translating Green Goblin into a 2d fighter
>>744843315>that's how many ratings it has, yeseven if it was only 5% of purchasers rating the game...that'd be like 80k copies sold. 140-150k maybe across all platforms for a marvel game is really really bad.
>CHINAwhat does this have to do with the #2 country?
>>744841087yes but if you want a good experience on PS5 you turn off crossplay to not match with PC. Everytime someones framerate drops under 60fps you get rollback and its very noticeable. Theres some shit out there claiming UE5 is shit on PC and causing microstutters you might not notice but once you go online causes rollback cause that 60 fps that seems constant is actually dipping every so often fast enough your eye doesn't really detect it, but still causes the rollback.
>>744840523FPBP. Capeshit needs to die.
>>744840165kek imagine thinking this piece of shit ever had a chance of getting 50k
>pay 50 bucks to play with lag and 8f rollback>or pay 150 bucks to play on ps5i'm so pissed
>new fightan drops>play it for a day or two>its somewhere between ok and shit>boot up fightcade againmany such cases
>>744840165>this was supposed to be the SF6 killerLMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>744844719Can they even buy GPUs that can run the game
>>744840523>>744845836well keep crying about then because it's not going anywhere with success like Rivals or the new Spiderman movie or DC's new Absolute universe
>>744840165ArcSys should have made a Shonen Jump game instead of this Marvel shit.
>>744840165Not only do you need to use PSN to even launch the game, but it also requires Windows 11. You can't play it on Steam Deck/Machine despite the fact that Easy Anti-Cheat has a one-button option in the devtools to enable Linux support (and all other Arc System games enable it by default), meaning it was a deliberate decision on Playstation's end. Snoy is going to cause irreparable harm to the game's lifecycle just like they did to SFV.
check my combo
>>744846098yooooooooo DLSS so fire you can barely tell it's not native
>>744845640Based on purely anecdotal experience I'd say nowhere close to even 1% of playstation owners are rating their games.
>>744846064>, but it also requires Windows 11I played it on Windows 10 but the rest of your point stands
>>744846098FUAAAARRKKK this looks fire
>>744846098Average 9800X3D and 5080RTX gameplay.
be honest with me bros, are they going to fix it?i don't mind labbing in this scuffed version for a while but if it's going to stay like this i don't want to waste my money
>>744840165Fighting games are a dead genre.
>>744846064Sony is the publisher as well, so they don't care how it affects PC as long as PS5s show up at tournaments. Good luck getting Sajam to speak out against Sony after the last time he did that with Capcom and got slapped around.
>>744846098You're amazing!
>>744846098use lossless scaling for smooth 60fps bro
>>744846303If it was just ArcSys I would say yes, but because of Sony having their grimey hands in it as well, the answer is a hard no. Wait for a sale at most.
>>744840165>no crossplayWait, seriously?
>>744846246Not him, both 10 and 11 work with the game but you also need TPM, which some W10 era PCs don't have.
>>744846432It has crossplay, but it's fucking broken, the whole pc version is absolute trash.
>>744846052>ArcSys should have made a Shonen Jump>Capcom vs Jump gets announced next year>Spiritual successor to MvC2/3>Run team of Zero, Nero and Ichigo which is even more degenerate than ZMCmy dick would probably explode from the blood rushing to it
>>744844719Because it's not available in their country, they have to play on imported PS5s.
>>744846064Not being on Steamos kills it for me, my main gaming pc is using steamos, I don't really want to play the game on my office computer I want to sit on my couch and play it on my tv.
>>744846487>kernel-level eac AND secureboot AND proprietary encryptionWhat is the fucking point of using all of these at once?
>>744846617>just buy a ps5 poorfag
>>744840523FPBP
>>744843175I hope Arksys goes bankrupt over this one.
>>744840165Injustice chads won again.
>>744845340OP bamboozled me??>>744846534>but it's fucking brokenOh, how?
why is sony even involved? do they own marvel or somethingi'm on pc to not have to interact with this fuck ass company and now they ruin pc games too?!
>>744846772PC players drop framesdropped frames=rollbackorPC player runs 50-58 fpsconstant 8-12f rollbackbasically unplayable vs people that can't run the game perfectly, and it's a crapshoot if your pc runs the game perfectly
>>744841816>>744842413it's impressive they managed to make the game even worse considering the base games obnoxious shield BS. If it wasn't for frenchbread making bank from being paid to make this, they'd be better off giving up on itAt least the roster is slightly less shit
>>744846568Luffy, Goku and Gojo are too broken for crossover fighting games.
>>744846860They are publishing the game, they paid for the development.
>>744846098Leaked footage of the Switch 2 port?
>>744846860TOKON was part of their live service push, and they also want that sweet marvel rivals money for themselves.
>>744843489lmao its nu-arcsys they are worthless
>>744841409>grown up Lenshit game
>>744846908nothing is too broken for crossover games, and everyone loves seeing a lady with thick thighs doing kung fu, or a karate hobo going toe to toe with gods. MvC3 had fucking Phoenix Wright and Frank West. The whole point of this shit is it's retarded.
>>744840523i tried to play spiderman today got bored after capturing the fat bald faggot
>>744846860>why is sony even involvedunfortunately they have a licensing deal for making video games for a good portion of Marvel's characters
>>744846568Would be based beyond belief. Let me play as Kumagawa, Train, or Senku.
>>744840165What's even the point of requiring a Playstation Network account to play the game on PC if you can't even play with Playstation players?
>>744844929Prior to the past 70 or so years, China has been in endless civil wars. Chinese have spent more time killing each other than they haven't. I don't need the CIA to tell me anything because liveleaks alone shows how much they absolutely want to see each other die in the most horrific ways possible.
>>744846860They paid for the game, vro. No Sony = no Tokon. Also because Sony owned EVO for most of its development, and fighting games function as live-service games, which lines up with their broader push in that space. So both Sony and Arc System Works end up benefitting from each other.
>>744843629strive is better than tokon
>>744840165Classic modern arcsys release. It looks beautiful, sounds great, and has lots of work put into the animations and characters except the game is fucking shitty to play while suffering from the combo of japanese programming and corporate meddling. Thank god the beta saved me 60 bucks.
>>744841409already lost to +r, xrd, blazblue and uni2 with the decision to add drive impact and burnout
>>744844652There's 1.4 billion Chinese, man. Even if only 5% of those were video game players who also played on PC, that's 70 million users. In fact, for the past decade, China has been the sole majority of Steam's growth. All it takes is one group of 10k to fuck up any game's review. Even less in most cases. There's no cohesion, there's just a fuckton of them who operate on a different culture which allows them to act like giant faggots without shame in most cases (like letting their babies poop in public trashcans, but I think they kinda stopped that maybe).
>>744846860>why is sony even involved? do they own marvel or somethingSony as a corporation has been doing what they can to hold onto the small scrap of Marvel licensing they still have, you better damn believe they want people to believe they own the franchise.>>744846984>TOKON was part of their live service pushNo this was separate from that. This was actually meant to be their premiere fighter for EVO when they still owned the event, but it was delayed because Arc Sys was busy with all their other fighters (and the aforementioned live service push going up in smoke for Sony caused them to rethink their general plan)
>>744847225i feel like ArcSys would've benefitted more from other collabs/their own projectscould've just done Naruto FighterZ or BlazBluei mean it already has the Unique button of BB anywaynow they have this mess of a launch which never goes well for fighting games
>>744840986Tatsunoko vs Capcom
>>744847225>fighting games function as live-service gamesthis is probably the main reason, they just saw an opportunity to jump in on the bandwagon with so many new fgs coming out managed to get the marvel licence thanks to their relationship with other marvel titles, and it fit into their big live service push. this shit is going to go the way of the avengers game though if it can't sell enough DLC and get shut down eventually. prolly have to keep the game up and running per the deal with marvel for a few years but after that if they don't get good enough returns they'll shut the servers down.
>>744847190>What's even the point of requiring a Playstation Network account to play the game on PCSame reason why they added it to Helldivers 2 after getting people on the hook, more accounts = bigger number to show off to shareholders because they're not going to tell them which platform's actually playing their games.
this peaked at 24k players with the Marvel IP while Strive peaked 31k when no one outside of the FGC even knew what a Guilty Gear was
>>744847964>while Strive peaked 31k when no one outside of the FGC even knew what a Guilty Gear wasCovid Bonus
APOLOGIZE
>>744840165>need a snoy accountdidn't they try this shit before and it failed miserably? why try it again?
>>744847964strive is just the better game, without draconic drm and runs on a toaster
is DBFZ worth getting into?
Is there actually people who like hyper armor
>>744848135not anymore
>be Sony>lock the game with PSN>don't have enough players>surprised Rick Bobby faceHow unoptimized is the game anyway since it's the primary reason people will shit on the game?
>>744848135just buy granblue
>>744846021I truly don't get how people like absolute.>bro what if we made Batman a psycho with a tiny head and a battle axe?!Then it's not Batman...
>>744848223i don't fucking like granblue. I want something faster
>>744848135When the game was still being worked on, sure, but the license ran out and Arcsys made sure to ruin the game with a dogshit """balance"""" patch before they left.
>>744848214this has to be the worst optimized game of the past decade if you don't count random indie slop
>>744848163as a system mechanic noSpecific characters can have it for certain moves though
>>744848271wasn't in bandai who is doing the "balance" now?
Drop the emergency bridget NOW! We need troons to make it their personality and save the player count.
>>744848393>Drop the emergency bridget NOW!Miles Morales?
>>744848325If by specific characters and specific moves you mean some fat nigger getting it as a bootleg reversal instead of real invulnerability
>>744848293I don't even think it's bad optimization, it's specifically the DRM completely fucking everything up.
>>744840165All fighting games are bad.
>>744848702t. guilelosequote
>>744848393I'm sure they're saving the female Loki skin for this occasion
>>744847964Strive doesn't have a hard PSN account requirement like
>>744840165Noooo it's all linux and poor fags! This game is peeeerfect
>>744849331it literally is. this mogs MvC
>>744848239It's a cool Batman variation. Same as Flashpoint Batman who was sold as a skin in every game that you could play as Batman.
>>744847121>>744847225so you're saying mvc4, if it happens, is doomed?
>>744841529Pcfags just needing any reason to bitch. Just look at the Linux retards complaining about no Linux support from a game that NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HAVING IT.These monkeys will bitch about gta 6 needing a rockstar account in 2 years.
>>744845204Exactly. The average pc gamer is fucking retarded now.
>>744842428>being this much of a dumb fucking niggerLol
>link my PSN on the steam version for the open beta, have to put settings on low-medium for solid performance>see that it's not really improved and there's other issues on top of it so get it on PS5>it's trying to make an tokon account but the PSN is already being used for PC and instead of linking it, it just crashes and goes back to the unskippable logos>have to use a dummy profile to even launch the gameAnyone else having this issue?
it seems like Sony is on a monumental run to damage their reputation
>>744841816How is it DoA if it's finally copying the one fighting game everyone loves?
For me, it's avatar
>>744850272>everyone loves sf6
>3070 as recommended3/4 of Steam´s users in shambles
>>744840165Don't forget it's fucking FULL PRICE
>>744840165works on my machine.
>>744848458Well it's worth including here and there because it introduces different quirks than a regular invincible reversal>defender still takes damage>attacker is still connecting with something and can trigger cancels>can be broken by reaching a certain damage threshold, number of hits, low attack, etc
Capcom WONMvC WON
>>744841264bodied that fuckin' lying freak.
>>744850618Wrong game faggot
>>744850879still MAHVEL. Tōkon works on my machine.
>>744848457The little nog isn't going to sell or move anything. In asia the side spiderverse cast is huge
kinda telling that nobody complaining about the game is posting their PC specs. niggas don't wanna admit that 2070 they bought 5 years ago ain't cutting it anymore. LOL
>>744849778Saaaar..no blam sony saaaar
>>744840165>no crossplay???I'm playing with a friend PS5 vs PC right now
>>744844164devilish well played sony
>>744848457His gf actually
>>744851073OP is a lying Capcom shill.
>>744840986Avatar, Restory, Splatoon Raiders. Idk be happy and stop buying sony slop
>>744844164>3 hours to compile shaderscheck out the 2019 laptop this guy's trying to play on. LOL
>>744850406It's the most played fighting game. Usually people stop playing games they dislike
>>744848043If they made this game without the stone shit it would've been 10x better. Roster was really godshit though, like 5 fun characters and then they expected people to spend money on Winter Soldier and Black Widow of all characters.
I’m watching my favorite streamer play the story mode right now and it’s so boring.
>>744851187>It's the most played fighting game...in Japan...
>>744844164This happened with Dragon's Dogma 2But the refund went through anyway, I'm pretty sure they're more lenient on day 1 since I used the "it's not fun" option instead of "it doesn't work"
>>744840986marvel vs capcom collectiontatsunokodfci
>>744851187>Usually people stop playing games they dislikeWhere do you low iq retarded niggers even come from? You are brown, i can smell you through the screen.
>>744851216>fighting game>story modelol
>>744848043no. fuck this garbage game and fuck Capcom for ruining it just because Marvel wouldn't let them waste half the roster on mutants.
>>744851221Which fighting game is more popular than SF6 outside of Japan?>>744851248>Smart people keep playing a game they hate for yearsSurely I'm the retard here
>>744851286Not reading your babble, Which country do you come from? Not your current one
>>744846303sony seems fully intent to let this game die to prove a point to themselves
>>744851286>Which fighting game is more popular than SF6 outside of Japan? Tekken 8 >>744851187SF6 playerbase on the west is beginning to crack with the recents changes.
Are fighting games actually that popular? It feels like there's 100 fighting games being churned out and then immediately being dead on arrival.
>>744851221...and globally. Need I post the steam charts or will you be a faggot and move the goalpost?
>>744840165>>744851286>>744851741the Capcom shills are revealing their presence ITT. false flag thread.
>>744850994wrong game plus if it did you'd be playing it instead of larping with low res photo dumps
Feels Good Man.
>>744851880>wrong gamestill MAHVEL. still works on my machine. sorry, shill. i'm not part of your narrative.
>>744851775Nigger what fucking SHILL? 6 is OBJECTIVELY the most popular fighting game right now. YOU CANNOT DISPUTE THIS. There are numbers live RIGHT NOW that fucking PROVE THIS. I get it, you seethe about it like a fucking deranged nigger, but this is the truth. People PLAY the game. And if they truly, TRULY despised it, they would not play it. But they do. Why? Because they're like you: defeatist, npc cuckolds who lack a spine and have no fucking integrity to not hold out on a fucking digital toy and would rather sit and whine about it like a little fucking bitch instead of ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING. I hope you fucking kill yourself because you're so fucking useless and inept at everything.
this what half you niggas are seeing when you try to play Tōkon on PC? LOL
Refugees, we welcome you to the AANG GANG
>>744851983>doesn't work on my machine, here's some more low res posts from my tabletkek
>>744852102I'm a grown ass man. I am not paying for Flash games.
>>744852129>I'm a grown ass man. I am not paying for Flash games
>>744840986Big Walk if you have friends.It's very relaxing unlike all previous friendslop
>>744851308Not falling for your bait and derailing the discussion. You're just gonna keep demanding proof and then we're no longer talking about SF6.>>744851534Tekken 8 is a good answer actually. It's close enough to SF6's numbers outside of Japan hours and pretty unpopular in Japan, so while you can always say even during western hours a bunch of SF6 players are from Japan staying awake late to play, Tekken is probably mostly western.>>744851775Not an argument.
>>744840523I've basically never seen any of these movies except for iron man and like two others my dad showed me. is there one actually worth watching?
>>744852065HAHAHA DUDE NIGGER HUMOR SO FUNNY LOL
>>744849727Depends, did you like Infinite?
>>744840165Kamala and Peni are kawaii so it's okay
>>744852173sorry bud, maybe you should've made a 3D game like everyone else this century.
>>744851646They sell but the active playerbase is only large enough to support around 4 fighting games before matchmaking starts to become a problem.
>>744840165
>>744852447>Tōkon Captain Marvel design revealed>it's not the Bartel costume with the sleeveless bodysuit and jacketfug
>>744852447dogshit filthy jeet , get it out of muh vidyers
>>744852608chinder
>Deliberately sabotaging the PC version because the new leadership hates it and wants to make the PS5 version look betterLiterally Watch Dogs 1 all over again. I hope the people suing Sony get wind of this, this might be legal grounds for fraud.
>>744840523i like capeshitit sounds like the performance is shit even on decent rigs (saw a few people with better cpu/gpus than me bitching) and people online were split 50/50 on whether it would work on win10so i just refunded my preorder insteadc'est la /v/
>>744852638Sir, I am an American but I understand your frustration so here's a Peni to calm your nerves
>>744841529Because Helldivers 2 was poised to enter the cultural zeitgeist and become a genuine phenomenon before Sony decided to fuck it in the ass. To this day I'm still impressed. They also sold K Pop Demon Hunters for pennies only for Netflix to turn it into a world sensation. Sony has a lot of talent in its roster but its top execs are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet.
capeshit is pretty cool thoughbeit Tokon is not>>744852950Good morning
>>744852608
Part of me feels like I should buy Tokon just to get at least some usage out of my PS5. So far I’ve only bought Switch 2 games this year.
>>744853001This guy is a total sociopath with not a single thought of honesty inside of him. Repulsive people.
>>744841529trvth nvke
>>744841151Oh damn. Thanks for mentioning this. I got the demo of this and really enjoyed it. Forgot to add it to my wishlist so didn't know it released.
>>744841409The melty devs should make a FSN fighting game already. Its so obvious, i don't understand how they haven't done it yet
has arcsys addressed the PC issues since launch? i know they mentioned it during beta but did they say anything new?!
>>744853059>>744843490
Tag fighters are just so lame. Its always the same "5 seconds of neutral into 15 seconds of combo" shit. Its for people who relaly like labbing combos all day and don't care about neutral at all
>>744841529ANY game requiring any sort of third party account should be nuked
>>744853312it's a 1v1 though, a really lame 1v1 game.
>>744840165Fucking Square Enix finally figured out a couple years ago that partnering with Playstation was a bad idea. How has ArcSys not gotten the memo even now?
>>744840165I wanted a Jojo fighter from ArcSys. Fuck capeshit I'm glad this is flopping
>>744853365Its 1v1 for now. Jwong and other people have already figured out that you can get way better combos if you do multiple tags. Its going to become the meta real quick
>>744853001are deadpool's weapons considered ninja daggers?
sighhh i'll buy a key anyway...i can't wait for a patchi had too much fun in the betai hate devs
>>744853424 one lifebar so you are just swapping the point character, it's eternally stuck in 1v1 mode.
>>744852102>KorrashitRemove it and I will gladly jump in.
do i click it bros?the fomo...the addiction...
>>744852960Helldivers 2 was going to go to shit regardless, Arrowhead refuses to actually spend more money on the game than what Sony is footing it seems, glitches that were at the start are rearing their ugly heads again.
>>744853424>Jwong and other people have already figured outWe've already had the TNS tournament for the beta. People have been posting combos and mix with tags before and since. It's already the meta and you're just out of the loop:https://x.com/TokonFighters/status/2083207290950242513https://x.com/SkeezerSays/status/2083229482056384927https://x.com/HUEBERT47/status/2080898739594539457https://x.com/HazimRequiem005/status/2083228188730102011
>>744853391I don't care but I'm waiting for pretending trying to get people to buy their shit on a Switch is going to work, when the KH collections had to be STREAMED on the Switch 1.
>>744853974They didn't have to be streamed, Square Enix simply got lazy and rushed out cloud ports to have something ready on Switch in time to capitalize off of Sora's reveal in Smash.
>>744854056>cloud portswhat the fuck is this?
>>744854076Those streamed ports that were literally just mentioned.
>>744840165>get into 5 bar match>8 frames schizo rollback>weird>get into another good connection match>8 frames schizo rollbackI don't get it. What fucks this game up so badly?
Works on my machine. Radeon RX 7900 XTRyzen 7 7800X3D 8-core @ 4.20 GHz64mb DDR4 RAM
>>744854506Every time I've had that playing with someone I know, it's because they're cranking their PC graphics higher than their computer can handle
>>744854602how much is the cpu? i'm stuck on arm4 forever because of the prices
>>744853052So you admit you never watch him. Yeah he's quiet about some things (being very quiet about anything Stellar Blade related, especially the sequel despite how positive he was about the trailer), and on a rare occasion is he actually dishonest.
they slowed it down from the beta. holy kek fighting games are dead. avatar deliver us from damnation
>>744853856If you don't want it, I'll take it.
>>744854696proof?
>>744854643If you say so. My computer can handle far more intensive games with ease. Even lowering the graphics doesn't help.
>>744840165Game will hopefully bomb and end up like Invincible vs (dead in a month)
Reminder your GPU isn't relevant for this game. Your 5090 means dick if you don't have an even stronger CPU
>>744854771I think I misworded my statement. In my experience the 8 frames of shizo rollback occurs when your opponent has their graphics settings too high. If your computer can run the game well and it says 5 bar connection then it's not an issue on your side. As an example, I played with my brother and he was 'barely' able to run the game at 60fps on max graphics settings, and I would get the schizo rollback and he wouldn't until he lowered them. (For reference, my computer is much better than my brothers)
>>744840165I played the free demo and honestly it's just meh.Maybe worth $20-$30 if you like Marvel stuff a lot.Instead it's $110...I get it's probably Disney that chose that price not Arcsys but they can all go fuck themselves.
Game is already downspiralling on Day 2. Confirmed flop. Generation fumble.
>>744855049Makes sense.
It's legit giving me bluescreens after like 3 minutes of game timeAnyone else getting BSODs?
>>744855089nigga. it's Thursday. people have to go to bed. they have work tomorrow.
I'll wait for the day 3 patch. Game runs smoothly on my end during the beta but those crossplay desyncs are a dealbreaker
>>744844164Is your computer from this century?
>>744855145Anon... your RAM sticks are dying... I'm sorry.........
>>744853312Agreed. Even on a casual level they can be very monotonous, and the roster being so small just exacerbates that.
>>744851264>waste half the roster on mutantsMutant fighting seriesalways has beenalways will beknow your place you homosapien
>>744855089Good. It's already below SF6, the better game. Sad that they couldn't even beat a flop like Yasmine.
>>744853856wait for the fitgirl repack before deciding to buy
Works on my machine.
TokonSISTERS...
>>744840523Based
releasing a game in the absolute state tokon did is unacceptable regardless of how you feel about the dogshit gameplay. And sony still has the gale of killing physical while releasing their turbo slop.
>>744840963It's poors and troonix
>>744845938Nothing will kill the literal>biggest tournament fag fighting game everBc its impossible
>>744857065>day 0 (not even 24 hours)>already lost 10k playersdeserved.
>>744840523FPBPAbsolute garbage peddled by yids
>>744840165What's the problem? I know nothing about this game beyond the initial trailers which I thought looked pretty neat.
>>744852102A steaming pile of shit or a slightly colder steaming pile of shit...amazing options...Cant wait for Melty shit street shitter 6 edition as well
Why would anyone buy any tourney arcade fighter other than Street Fighter? These games rely on having an active community. Developing fightan games might be the biggest money sink ever. If the fightan community is still busy af with another game they are never gonna migrate to your inferior game you stupid fuck devs.Autistic about frame data? SF6Autistic about bing bing wahoo? Smash BrosThats it. Anything else is a dead community even Guilty Tranny
>>744857343>new game in fighing genre failed to captivate the player base of fighting game fans becsuse they are still busy trying to master SF6
I played for eight hours no problem. Having a fun time. I hope they do a Lady Loki skin like Rivals though since Loki is on my team.
>>744857537Loki is zeisty as fuck in Tokon, he's 100% getting a female skin
>>744857448>no Third strikeThird strike is surprisingly alive and will be alive for decades. People don't really want to acknowledge sf6 because it's caca and only really alive in japan
>>744857179>It's majority of its casual audience>and the autistic competitive halfKEKAROO
>>744852260watch the original spider-man trilogy and batman '89 i guess
>>744840165Why did the pc master race shit their diapies this time?
I watched one clip of a 21s combo and knew this game was shit and should be avoided, no fighting game needs comboslop that goes over 3s max
>>744857448I'm not getting tokon cuz I hate tag fighters, but it's a 1v1 game and modern fighters have rollback. There's no point shitting yourself about steamchartz for modern fighters until they're under 200 users.
>>744852260uh... the batman games are pretty good, don't watch movies read the comics. most capeshit movies are horrible, The watchmen and the dark knight trilogy are probably the best ones, also some of the iron man movies were cool too.>fantastic 4horrible>Hulk dogshit>soiman with brown MJWoke shit>Captain americaTerrible>Guardians of the RedditFirst one is alright
how did arcsys manage to create a worse tag game than 2xko. impressive.
>>744840165>it's dead on arrivallol fighting game faggots never stop losing
>>744840165Gonna wait for the Nintendo switch 2 version in 2 years
>>744852102No thanks. You niggers sound like Xturders evangelizing their game. Nothing turns me off from a game than this shit.
>>744858807>worse than 2xko2XKO has easy bake activeswitch slop aka the cancer killing tag fighters since mvci and babytag. The fact that this game doesnt have it to the extent that you just put someone in blockstun and immediately put someone in sandwich situations makes it infinitely better
>>744857792How many people still play Third Strike? like 12?
>>744859482constant 300-700 for like a decade now >_>
>>744859609show me the last Grand Finals of Third Strike of this year. I want to see what the meta is atm and who is playing and all that.
>>744859428the game has next to no neutral. every round is either player stuck in hit/block stun into easy bake 30 second combos.
>>744851775and you are shilling for arc troon works
>>744859658Literally how does it have no neutral when 2H is even more obnoxious than DBFZs so air approach is even more dangerous without an assist covering you and there is no superdash to actually skip neutral
>>744859635 western tournamentshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL4pOsQeAP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYhGaiRAhrclastest nip tournamenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUq7HuZGe3oIt's a team game now
>>744840165Will this spell the end for fighting games? Will Evo be forced to play SF VI till the end of time?
>>744859727ok I concede it is active nice
if theres no crossplay then its better to get console version
I didn't even know it released
>>744857792The cope that it's only big in Japan is still really embarrassing, it's still the biggest game in the West too, people love to eat shit. It's stupid to pretend they don't.
>>744859716screen space is tiny for a 4v4 assist game. any contact with a random assist call leads to combo or block pressure.
After Strive? I hope they burn!
>>744859857>any contact with a random assist call leads to combo or block pressure.Show me a tag fighter that isnt like this. Your assists are an extension of your character. The entire drawback is they can get punished severely when you call them out on it.
>>744859934yes and you must balance this out with a strong push block to return to neutral. otherwise you what we have currently.
>max isnt live playing rnso the game sucks, and he hates it then gg
>>744859341Apologize
>>744860082He streamed for 20 hours, he got off 2 hours ago
>>744860082You need to be human to love or hate something. He is just a shill and the check didn't came in.
>>744859727holy shit Yun is so OP but in a fun way
>>744860173No one in the FGC is human anymoreIt's either shills or posers
>>744860041You have an armored drive impact that homes and a guard cancel that I dont see anyone right now punishing with the counter guard cancel. Your normal strings can only go for 4 unless you use an assist. Pressure will eventually end unless you're a sitting duck
>>744860082Oh so now you fags will use max, I thought his opinions dont matter?
>>744840963Ots one of those things where the game is good when you get into a match but this doesnt make up for the agonizing process of lauching it. If you played PC games in the 2000s it is time to admit that Steam has finally become the thing it was made to stop.
Hulk being indestructible and being used a vessel for the nu-soi authors to have weird existentials trip around the galaxy and the end of the universe is not cool.
>>744860565There's nothing cool about capeshit, it's just a bunch of random garbage from better IPs thrown together into a terrible soup for mass appeal.
>>744840917He’s been getting bodied, so of course he hates it, regardless of what the general consensus is.
>>744860386the alpha counter is just a pretend filler reaction check, barely relevant at high level play. DI just resets back to more hitstun. pressure goes on forever with 3 assist+spacing traps+staggers+turn steals+active tag.
>>744860717capeshit is cool though
>>744860934I have not seen any high level play where someone gets put on a blockstring that lasts more than 6 seconds. The only time I have seen it are xitter clout vids. Not even fenrich's matches have pressure that long and he gets alpha countered and spot dodged A LOT.
>>744840523Agreed. At some point it's oversaturated, try new things, experiment, please for the love of god, do something original.
>>744861234count the seconds at neutral per round (time when either player is not in immediate range of a normal).
>>744855785remove mutie
Star Lord is a 36 year old man why is he on the teenager team
>>744857431>>744859341t. doesn't play fighting games
>>744861410https://www.twitch.tv/ifcyipes/v/2838827068?sr=aThis is Yipes' latest stream. The match at 9:25:30 is a random match I watched an hour ago. They spend 6-10 in game seconds dancing around each ither until someone gets clipped and combo'd into a corner. Then either that someone jumps out because the pressure is fake or the wall gets broken.
>>744861725I dont play fighting games that dont interest me. I dont like the Avatar IP, and you're only proving my point. You fags are annoying.Inb4 tokon shill, I didnt like this game either
>>744861630I GET KNOCKED DOWN BUT I GET UP AGAIN YOU AINT GOING TO PUT ME DOWN
starlord having sex with penni
>>744861924there was maybe half of that. a lot of missed opportunities to for combo or block pressure from stray hits. game is new so it's understandable.
>>744861630Groomlord
>>744840165>>need a PSN account for EVERYTHINGI refuse to buy it over this alone.
>>744860565Cape Shit has always been the worst kind of power fantasy. Batman is the only good capeshit because he is a man without super powers just plot armor.
>>744860139I miss it...
>>744860545>If you played PC games in the 2000s it is time to admit that Steam has finally become the thing it was made to stop.Not to sound like a Gaben fanboy but is this really their fault? It's Sony that is forcing the PSN shit.
>>744840165>>no crossplayliterally how it's only on pc and ps5 LOL
>>744840986Play Avatar and please don't pick Azula, everyone is playing Azula these days (me included).
>>744861725Oh i played avatar Its an incomplete piece of shityou can cope all you want but if I wanted to play dnf duel 2.0 I would just play dnf duel
>>744863042thumbnail made me look twice
discord fighter?
>>744863429If Strive didnt become a discord fighter in the span of 5 years despite everything wrong with it, this wouldnt either.
I almost feel bad for ArcSys, it's almost entirely Sony who are fucking them over hereThey're trannyfags though so I don't actually feel bad for them
>>744852102I'm not a zoomer so I don't give a fuck about avatar
>>744852102This game can have the best gameplay ever but I dont like the show and I dont like how it looks, so whatever.
>>744863429this faggot ass nigga is super pocket watching.
>>744859774there is crossplay. OP is a disingenuous faggot.
>>744853052I asked him in his channel while he was playing Invincible vs what was his opinion on the game having 400 current players. He answered "Who gives a fuck dude, that's great, I like the the game okay? Who care how many people are playing ,I LIKE IT!!!"
>>744840165man they saw Avatar Fighting Game fuck up their release and decided to fuck theirs up even worsefighting game devs are such fucking incompetent boobs lol
>>744840165>"No disc? I'll buy!" -Steamgroids
>>744864194>he said he likes a game>LOCK THIS PSYCHO UPonly on /v/ is liking a game considered mental illness
>>744864194On one hand, hes a shill because he says this about every fighting game that comes out. On the other hand, on the context of your pic, Max is right. All of the elected officials are all in bed with big tech who want to establish tech feudalism even if it means vidya (and physical media) has to go.
>>744863429>no one in EU bought itIm not suprised since its capeslop but still thats lower than expected.
>>744847478>caused them to rethink their general planlmao they are doubling up on these live service crap
It's impossible to gauge how bad the actual problems are because every other complaint is like this>I know I don't meet the system reqs but I can run last gen's games on low why can't I play thisEven if Arcshit manage the fix whatever's causing the anti cheat to fuck people with good pcs over it'll forever have a bad rep because of people like this. Potato mod users I'm looking at you.
>>744864642Its like how Dragons Dogma 2 got reviewed for having MTX, when it has LESS MTX than most AAA shit. A story ran, and people stuck with it because most people have their opinions dictated to them.
>>744864775>Capcom product outta nowherethe fucking shills in this thread, man.
Every fighting game I look forward to has a terrible launch
>>744864775They literally gatekept basic features like fast travel with microtransactions. Do capbuck shills really?
>>744864939Theres never been a fighting game with a good launch. The closest was sf6, that one was relatively tame. Meanwhile every mid to big budget fighter ever since sfv had issues
>>744840523then you must be happy as i
>>744840918>believing in psstore data>>744841197 thats why im done with playstation digital future
>>744841529an old shit hotmail works
>>744864642Welcome to PC gaming where the majority of retards don't understand the bare minimum of benchmark testing.Always just buy the game yourself and test it for an hour or so, then refund if it doesn't work. The average idiot will say "works fine for me" without even checking the FPS or frametimes, GPU/CPU usage, etc, AT ALL.By all degree's, Tokon runs "fine" on my system (4080 Super / 5800X3D) but it's actually garbage because there is a consistent microstutter every 2 seconds which shows on a frametime graph, and my game is capped at 59fps rather than 60fps. In a fighting game, being 1 frame off causes major issues because everything is tied to frames and when playing online, that 1 frame is equalling 8 frames of rollback for the netcode so it's fucked.
>>744864265a shit game of course its mental illness like eating shit given all those retards like food analogy
I don't know what I would do if this game didn't have such strong anti-cheat. I can't stand cheaters, and surely would not purchase the game if I thought I might run into one. Thank you Sony.
>>744865165hello retard thanks to you and more retards we got this issue with online game anticheats instead of blocking the cheater with a few prompts
>tokon comes out>all fightan threads turn into abysmal dogshitthanks sony
I don't know what I would do if this game didn't have enforced PSN account log-in. I can't stand losing all my progress when I switch between platforms, and surely would not purchase the game if I thought I would have to deal with that. Thank you Sony.
Japs ruin everything from US
>>744840165Good. Fuck wokeshit and fuck Arcsys.
>>744865289yup any loss for california is a win for me
>>744864952Okay I'll bite. Thats not true.
>>744865289based also fuck daisuke.
>>744840165wtf i hate japan now
>>744841264There's more SF6 players on Switch 2 than Tokon will have on all platforms in a week
>>744840165Looked like shit from the start, the design of the characters absolutely sucks.
>faggots still mad about BridgetYou niggers letting this live in your head for the past 5 years is absolutely pathetic. Go to any hentai site and Bridget is still under the yaoi tag. Not even the fucking twitter troons use a Bridget profile pic these days, you are all perpetually stuck in 2022 and have been buck broken ever since.
>>744841264bodied that fucking freak
>>744840165>>no crossplaywtf then why do you need to sign into Sony's bullshit?
>>744865783there's crossplay
>>744865724They are perpetually stuck in 2016 anon, they've been crying about the exact same shit for a decade straight
>>744865283marvel's peak was with capcom
>>744859658No good fighting had relevant neutral game in like the last 20 years.Neutral is a meme, just skip it like everyone else.
this game doesn't need an anticheat, it isn't F2P if there is a cheater just ban him
>>744865816>>744859658neutral being important is a psyop orchestrated by zoners>no you have to walk 15 miles through all my bullshit before you're allowed to run your mix
>>744865864its a sony malware dataminer
>>744865783he's lying. there is crossplay.
>>744864642yo faggot maybe a 2d fighting game shouldn't have the same system requirements as aaa blockbusters. did you consider that or?
>>744864642That setup can run TEKKEN 8 and STREET FIGHTER 6, why can't it run Tokon which is a mobile game?
>>744865936Nta but when fighting games state their specs, its usually a nonfactor because you have potato mods at the ready. Its 100% EAC and the Sony bloat fucking things up because you have thr game work flawlessly on mid tier specs and explode on AAA machines for some reason, its not consistent
>>744864642yep. i'm straight up disregarding anyone who complains about not being able to run the game unless they post specs, target settings, and target resolution.
I don't know what I would do if this game didn't have gatekeep Linux. I can't stand Linux users and gatekeeping is pretty base, and I surely would not purchase the game if I thought I would have to deal with them. Thank you Sony.
>>744865926>>744865801
>>744866015>you have potato mods at the readyNo, potato mods do not work. If you're dropping frames on low you're dropping frames on potato mode as well. You should be forced to benchmark to stop poverty laptop users from playing online.
>>744840918PS5 version has 4-5 frames of input delay, it's bad.
Maybe I'm already tired of Arcshit game but the style really doesn't attract me
>>744866302Ok
>>744866637>6 minutes ago
>>744840165None of those things have anything to do with the quality of the game. That's the problem with you tourists. You don't care if a game is actually shit, you just want license to shit on as many things as possible, and all the memes you saw about this place convinced you that's what /v/ was like
>>744840165>>744840918>>744844719>"When you try to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no one."Tokon is too slow, clunky and shallow for actual fightan game junkies. And normalfags never retain interest in fightan games. So them making a Mahvel but slower and less combo routes literally appeal to no one. Honestly the senile faggots that run Arcsys should all just go away. Arcsys should only be a company hired for graphics, gameplay should always be handled by Capcom.
>>744848043>No Phoenix Wright>Made Spiderman's theme some lame and generic capeshit theme>Dogshit roster made just to promote Marvel's MCU slop
>>744864194>joins a stream just to make a steamdb player count post and clown on the streamerI'd tell you to get the fuck out too
>>744866887You niggers also said the same thing about Strive and that game lasted more than any of Arc's games. Longevity is something you fags get wrong every single time.
>>744848043This is patient 0 for active tag sloppa, I shant be apologizing for shit
>>744866887I'm an fgc veteran and I'm having fun labbing this game
>>744865348Well, they didn't gatekeep fast travel per se. It's more like they wanted people to pay to get more of the Ferrystones to use to fast travel. You can still find them in game, but they're pretty rare.
>>744867578lol tranny
>>744867746See>>744865724Also no argument
>>744866862>YEAH SONY!!! FORCE FEED ME MORE OF YOUR RETARDED PREDATORY PRACTICES WHILE I JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE IT LIKE A GOOD GOY!! I LOVE BEING TREATED LIKE CATTLE!Kill yourself. The jews are right about us.
>>744866862Technical issues at launch killed Melty Blood Type Lumina's playerbase in the crib despite it selling very well.
>>744867916think this is cope, people dropped it because of shield I don't think there were wide spread pc problems
>>744867578BBCF and DBFZ are still going strong so really it's too soon to say.
>>744867989Ackshually, the netcode is garbo with all the desyncs and the player rooms were kinda dookie, this is on top of shields and moon skills AND autocombos.
>>744868082CF was resurrected. Its on the same boat as +R where people found newfound love for it due to rollback being implemented, but people didnt give it enough live and respect when arc actively supported it during its run. DBFZ is well, Dragonball, though even the diehards are getting sick of that game.
>>744866302This has always been the case for console, this is why tournaments always avoid using them and stick to PC when possible lol
>>744867578Yeah and you have to thank tourists for that. These games aren't made for fighting game fans, they are made for your average guy that plays 3 hours of videogames per week and doesn't actually want to improve. These games stay alive just because they all shill them on social media and their other social circles. Anyone who started playing fighting games before 2008 knows that these modern titles are beyond shit.Xrd and XX blow the fuck out of Strive.3rd Strike and USF4 blow the fuck out of SF6.Dark Resurrection and even fucking T7 in comparison blow the fuck out of Tekken 8.Even SNK tried to appeal to tourists by featuring Ronaldo and that fuckass nigger monkey of Speed instead of properly reviving Garou.
>>744868217Except most tournaments use console
>>744868236So they stay alive because people play them, got it. A fighting game is meant to be played. A fighting game thats dead might as well not be a thing, its something you name drop to sound cool without ever engaging the game. Everything you wrote literally sounds like old man yelling at clouds. You even pulled out the old 09er card implicitly.
What the absolute fuck happened to Spiderman? I wish they had Yuri as his voice actor because holy fuck Josh Keaton's Spidey got fucking neutered here. What happened to "You got a black belt in stupid if you think you can beat me."?
>>744840165>need a PSN account for EVERYTHINGand yet you don't complain when you need a steam account for all pc games hmmm
>New Arcsys Marvel fighting gameDay 1 buy>70 bucksWait till its on sale>PSN account requiredNever buying it>It doesn't workDodged a bullet
Reminder that if the FGC or people larping as the FGC hates a fighting game, it's gonna do really well.
>>744865160Who cares what he likesI don't care for nagger dagger man but only this place would have an issue with "who cares if game is unpopular I personally enjoy it" as an opinion
>>744868385>A fighting game thats dead might as well not be a thingThat's the one thing you wrote that is actually correct, everything else is either you pretending to not understand or actually thinking that the current state of the FGC is fine.You need a player base to stay alive, sure, but you also need said player base to also be actual fans. GG had found the perfect balance, it was popular enough in the FGC to guarantee sales and players while also not being big enough to attract fake fans (i.e. trannies that can't stop seething about Bridget).Nobody wants a repeat of what happened with SNK after KOF XIII, but if the choice is between that and them losing their identity, I'd rather have the former.
>>744868571People don't hate the game itself, it currently just runs like shit (even on consoles)
>>744846487I was still kinda considering messing around with the game for a while despite everything, but lmao, no way I'm turning tpm back on too. I don't need Sony anti cheat tracking cookies on my processor. And I don't need to wake up one morning to Windows 11.Fuck Sony, fuck Epic and fuck Microsoft.I should just move to Linux already. Windows 10 without updates isn't getting any securer.
>>744840165A real shame. A real fucking shame.I was really looking forward to it ever since the announcement. But I DON'T want to create a PSN account and I DON'T want PSN services running in the background of my PC.
Picture of japanese game devs thinking up ambitious new titles with IPs that print money with minimal effort
>>744868690it's not worth it anon. desu its hard to even say that you're missing out
>>744840165Are the capeshit sluts at least hot in this?
>>744840165pc faggots get what they fucking deserve
Is Ms Marvel really that bad of a character? I saw almost every tier list put her as the worst character in the game... :(
>The Disastrous launch of TOKON >PC retardsWhy do you play console games on PC then you fucking retard
>anon pretends he cares about the anticheats or PSN accounts>he uses windows>he uses chrome
>>744840165>Console version is shitty tooLMAOPC vegan copeWorks fine on my machine
>>744868385>the fighting game is... LE DEADokay enjoy those 8 frames of rollback and stutter then lmao
>>744868871thats pc faggots always>cries about the bug bad meanie snoy getting rid of physical games>supports steam, the grand daddy of you’ll own nothing and be happy
>>744868236>THESE GAMES WITH NO ONE PLAYING THEM BLOW THE FUCK OUT OF GAMES WITH PLAYERSthe mind of these small dog fighting game players should be studied because I think if you left the room they'd think you're dead
>>744868819She was a menace in the early betas, they maybe overnerfed her to compensateThough she still felt strong in last week's beta so I dunno
>>744869037faggots who whine about modern fighting games will do anything but pick a controller and play a fg they actually like
>>744867862That's just further crusading shit instead of like, the actual quality of the video game
>>744868217>this is why tournaments always avoid using them and stick to PC when possibleThe delusions of these retards
>>744868184It never really died, comparing concurrent players now vs pre-rollback, it's only like a 50% increase in the long-term (though, to be fair, the length of time between rollback being added and now is longer than the length of time between Jubei being added and rollback). It has like 4-5 times as many players as +R.
>>744869391cf held players shockingly well even before rollback+r is the game that got brought back from the grave
because gacha niggers and pornbrains dont actually play these games
>>744869551say what you will about gachaniggers but they are playing
>>744865816>No good fighting had relevant neutral game in like the last 20 years.There hasn't been a good fighting game in 20 years.
any game that has neutral as defined by posters here would have a meta game about removing playing neutral as much as possible
>>744869658Even fighting games in the early-mid 2000s was all about finding characters that can invalidate neutral, or have tools that make neutral play itself.
>>744869752SF6 is awesome!
How the fuck do you manage to make a stylized fighting game run this badly? Do the models all have Yanderedev-tier polycounts or something?
>>744841409>SF6 with a melty skin No thanks
>>744869814>Even fighting games in the early-mid 2000sMost of those weren't really any good either. Fighting games peaked in the 90s for obvious reasons.
The main problem with fighting games these days is that once you understand 'the system' you immediately know whether a character is strong or not after just one weekThe discovery period is dead
>>744869871Ah yes peak 90s fighting games!
>>744869871DSP is that you
>>744869928>reeeeeee bu-but muh footsies reeeeeeeee
>>744869928There's more to 90s games than ST. There's more to SF2 than ST, even. Plenty of 90s games were victim to shortsightedness (for the very same reasons the genre was at its best then). But "who cares just give me the combos bruh" is how you end up with SF6. That's the entire mindset of that game and why it is what it is. That's what you asked for. ArcSys comboslop and SF6. Congratulations.
>>744870104Muh neutch kinda nice thobeit
>>744870121Were not even talking about combos here. Were talking about neutral. Literally find me a fighting game where the strongest option ISNT skipping neutral because even in fightcade, outside of people messing around with lowtiers, the strongest will always be characters that autopilot getting in
>>744869906its a fault of new age precision balancing and system tuning that characters are too homogeneous, especially with the focus on simplifying offense. thus, any character who cannot keep up on offense is immediately regarded as weakeryou might think that overwhelming offense is bad for new players but what it does is making offense very predictable on both attack and defense, and defensive mechanics aren't keeping up with it because that would mean stifling the offense. That's why Tokon's alpha counter can be counter-countered without needing a read and disables the defender's assists
>>744866465Its crazy that we live in a time where I unironically wish there was a game that just played like a no-frills Street Fighter clone. How the fuck is there not a single fighting game on the market right now that plays like Street Fighter?
>>744870201this is the trvkeEverything interesting about fighting games will always be removed or mitigated by simply picking the best character(s)Blazblue's entire roll system doesn't even end up mattering because the best characters cover all options by default for instance
>>744870201anytime you ask these faggot what is the prime example of a fighting game with this so called footsies neutral game, there is never a response. its just bots sowing discord for the sake of discord.
>>744869928outplayed
>>744870285wow killer syndromeeveryone wants to be the new kid on the block that topples the big dog with their own super special spin no one asked for
>>744869906avatar isn't like that at all.
>>744870285i unironically miss rising thunder
>>744870201The trick with fighting games is realizing that there are two kinds of playersPlayer 1) the BEST move is the one that does the coolest thing, and he will do suboptimal shit because its objectively cooler just to style on youPlayer 2) the BEST move is the one that makes me win fastest and most often and I don't care if you think I'm a total faggot for playing like a boring faggot. This isn't a game.Player 2 is the kind of fag that looks at tier lists, has other people tell him which combos are optimal, and is literally never fun to play games with and would be alone forever if not for matchmaking. You just need to play fighting games with player 1 instead of socially retarded people
>>744870361avatar is an old style character strength game tho so it doesnt count
>>744870201>Literally find me a fighting game where the strongest option ISNT skipping neutral because even in fightcadeAlmost by definition skipping neutral is the best option and is almost always what defines the most busted characters. That doesn't make it a good idea for every game to emphasize it, though. Fightcade isn't a game, btw.
>>744870405you sound like a casual ass faggot who has no idea what hes talking about. continue seething at the wind though, you nigger.
>>744840165The signs were always there.
>>744870457>That doesn't make it a good idea for every game to emphasize it, though.If anything if the game has no neutral skips but some character has some then they stand out even more than a neutral skippy game because they have a much bigger advantage and are much more obnoxious to fightIt's completely pointless, neutral will never exist at a competitive level
>>744870405The appeal of fighting games is outsmarting player 2 and getting better. It was never about doing suboptimal shit for the sake of it. If you wanted to troll be my guest, just dont cry if you keep losing. People want to win, but winning isnt the most important thing, but learning to earn that win.Player 2 can look at all the optimal stuff all he wants, at the end of the day its o e upping each other
Why do fighting games even have parts of stages that aren't the corner???? just make the whole stage the corner. rounds should start with characters kissing and whoever buzzes in first wins.my idea is called Street Fighter 7 please do not steal
>>744869037>Associating game's quality to popularity and salesYou're retarded and it's not even funny holy shit. Go back to playing your modern controls drive rush heat auto combo slopfest.
>>744870519now this is a fg which actually sucks
>>744870538this is what playing cota feels like
>>744870538>rock em sock em robots the fighting game kino
>>744868236>Xrd and XX blow the fuck out of Strive.And yet they have zero player retention. Revealed preference.
>>744840165the funniest shit is all the FGC youtubers are just dancing around the issue.
>>744870543A game's quality, while not dictated by popularity and sales, has correlation with longevity and retention. After all, if a game is legitimately unironically bad, why would people play it? Barring monetary incentives of course, which some of these newer games dont even have.
>>744870632Half of them are still pretending 2XKO has legs.
>>744870632no one cares about fgc fagtubers more than /v niggers who dont play the games.
>>744847225>No Sony = no TokonThat sounds good though
>>744870529They stand out but the game as a whole is not as homogeneous which is why it's more fun to play. Even at intermediate play HF and 3S can be obnoxious depending on the matchup, but I'd still take them over SF6. Especially HF, and I suck ass at that game.
>>744852260Try Guardians of the Galaxy. It's the MCU at its worst, which also makes it MCU at its best. Winter Soldier, Civil War, Spider-Man Homecoming, and Infinity War are also cool.
>>744870679to feel like theyre playing the big thing
>>744870501Do you have SF6? I'd play right now
>>744870743Nta but thats a different argument concerning games that focus on system mechanics than character specific ones. 90% of sf6 is about abusing drive rush into skipping neutral which is why its homogenous. The entire point of that reply chain is that skipping neutral is the strongest thing you can do in fighting games since the inception of the genre. How the devs tackle it is a different thing altogether.
>>744870828yet cotw never managed to be big even though there was a lot of money in it and its still the highest prize money in tournaments.try a new cope bro, sorry to shatter this one for you.
>>744870828Yet DBFZ is no longer the big thing, its a 9 year old game at this point and you still have people playing it.
>>744870845sure, where do you want to meet? or are you making a room?
I like cape but I don't like shit unfortunately most cape is shit
>>744870926Nowhere near the amount it had>>744870895SNK shit is literally repellant to people intuitively
>>744870949I'll go to NA15
>>7448710172kxko was also just as dead, as was dnf duel as is the newly released immortals game.one day you’ll have to accept that SF6 is on top for a very good and well deserved reason or you’ll just keep suffering trying to come up with new copes. I say this for your own good bro, trust me.
>>744871127SF6 is literally duty fighter 6
>>744871093aight
>>744871017>SNK shit is literally repellant to people intuitivelyIt's the PS3-tier graphics.
MAHVEL is nothing without crapcom
>>744870880>Nta but thats a different argument concerning games that focus on system mechanics than character specific ones.It's not, actually. Meaningful character-specific differences tend to be easier and stronger to identify in neutral and in getting past it. Games that rely heavily on systems just make it more obvious.>The entire point of that reply chain is that skipping neutral is the strongest thing you can do in fighting games since the inception of the genre. Obviously, but that's true by definition given what neutral is. "How the devs tackle it" is the point.
if mvc3 came out today it would be considered shit
>>744871332>if imaginary thing happened then other imaginary thing would happenw o o o o o o o w
>>744871127The "good and well deserved reason" being that it's the newest Street Fighter and it didn't get as much negative attention at launch as SF5 did.>>744871332It is, but it's fun anyway.
>>744871467>The "good and well deserved reason" being that it's the newest Street FighterSF5 did poorly and SF6 has nearly sold as many copies as SF5 did in its life time, people like SF6 because it's>easy to get into>has tons of content both multiplayer but more crucially singleplayer>the game looks good and COOL to the average personMeanwhile all the other games don't stick because people don't care, the game is lacking or is simply just uncool to people.
>>744871587nobody cares about single player content in fgs
>>744871127>one day you’ll have to accept that SF6 is on top for a very good and well deserved reasonIt's accessible with great net code and a strong brand that meant the network effect could assert itself immediately. The competition is pants. It's really an indictment of fighting games in general, though. There's a lot about SF6 that I like, personally, but it benefits enormously from the competition being shit and the genre as a whole being niche.
>>744871656I realize you're hoping your delusions will be reality, but no, you're wrong, now back in your padded cell schizo
>>744871587I really don't buy that singleplayer content is important to a game's success. Half of the popular competitive games in other genres don't even have singleplayer modes. Nobody watched the shitty Strive "story mode".
"People" like sf6 because the vtuber they donate their paycheck to is paid by capcom to play it.
>>744871843if single player content was relevant capcom wouldn't be cutting world tour development
>>744871846>I really don't buy that singleplayer content is important to a game's success.then you're retarded.>Half of the popular competitive games in other genres don't even have singleplayer modes.pratically all of them were born from some singleplayer or are an iteration of a game born a single player mode.FG needs singleplayer content more because it's not a genre thats super widely played and we've seen that f2p fgs don't really work, meanwhile we see that SF6's with its super robust singleplayer have gotten tons of people into it and is what made it successful, meanwhile SF5 released without basically any singleplayer and flopped hard because casual players don't think its worth it without it, this is also why Tokon has promoted its story mode hard.
deadlock has 0 single player and is bigger than every fg while being in closed beta btw
>>744871981>if single player content was relevant capcom wouldn't be cutting world tour developmentpeople are literally mad that capcom is doing this, it does matter.
>>744871846Except people did watch that story mode, which is why fans felt that GG lost its friction in terms of story because there are no real "villains." I-no and Happy chaos are misunderstand and asuka is a dindu. The complaint was that ther eisnt any more unless you buy the season pass.
>>744872242Deadlock is a third person shooter (aka the most common type of game) made by Valve promoted on Steam, and people are still heavily invested in the lore of it and want single player or at least just co-op modes for it.
>>744872329>theyre so mad!yeah and what's the direct influence to the player # counts? oh right, nothing just like people bitching about drive rush and lack of balance changes
>>744871264They had capcom back in 2017 but the game they churned out was shit regardless.
>>744872418>yeah and what's the direct influence to the player # counts?Alex and Ingrid were higher cocurrent because of the singleplayer >oh right, nothing just like people bitching about drive rush and lack of balance changesplease stop assuming twitter fgc and 4chan are the whole playerbase
>>744842481Not just that but so they can collect telemetry on you and link it to a real person (whatever PII you gave them, email address at the very least) and sell it to marketing companies who do robust scale profiles on you.
>>744872329>people are literally mad that capcom is doing this, it does matter.they're not entirely mad that world tour isn't getting more content... they're upset because even though they're not working on world tour anymore, that dev time is apparently not going to anywhere else, as seen with the slow release of character costumes and not even having a new stage planned for season 4
>>744872803>that dev time is apparently not going to anywhere elsethey literally gave us Avatar Arcade>costumesfuck off, costumes aren't content and you begging for it is genuinely retarded, just mod the gameThe lack of a stage while asking for the same price of the ultimate pack sucks though
>>744871264You forgot that Infinite happenedAlso if MvC3 came out today /v/ would hate it
>>744871093ggs bro Im not surprised youre a canadian faggot lmao
>>744873169Ackshually vee hated it before too because its a 4 button fighter instead of 6
>>744872116>pratically all of them were born from some singleplayer or are an iteration of a game born a single player mode.Counter-Strike, League, Valorant, PUBG, Overwatch, Rocket League, DOTA, Deadlock etc. >FG needs singleplayer content more because it's not a genre thats super widely played and we've seen that f2p fgs don't really workTurns out having really in-depth singleplayer content like GBVS does nothing either.
>>744873240says the mexican jamie player with 500pingggs
