>>744875595
he looks like an ugly loser with no friends, what does he know of real life? bet he was an incel virgin too

>>744875674
Anon, stop looking in the mirror.

>>744875674
FPWP. This is a rare case of OP not being a faggot and actually bodying the wannabe smartass.

>>744875674
His hobby was going into the mountains with friends to search for the buried treasure hidden by the Tokugawa shogunate.

>>744876060
Unfathomably based.

>>744876060
Sadly, the only treasure that they found was the anon reading this post

>>744876060
sounds like reddit slop to me

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>>744875595
What fucking "things"?

>>744876149
You sound like a bitter faggot that could use a good treasure hunt with friends.

>>744875595
Thank you

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>>744875595
No one cares about how much of a performative normalfag you are

>>744876149
I'm sure you are living the life, sitting on your ass being bitter. I envy you.

>>744875595
In short, you cant come up with anything new or interesting if your only hobby is to cooonsume. Thats also why ninendo dont want "gamers" as developers.

>>744876381
Gym

>>744875595
I've shot men, I've called for fire on men, I've launched steel explosives on men. Am I the most experienced? Not by a long shot. Shut the fuck up and play.
t. Gulf War, GWOT, and soon war on China (still in service)

>>744876059
oure retared

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>>744876983
As long as its not boring "stay still and lift shit." Do the gamer sport.

>>744877101
2 more weeks.

>>744877101
>this nigga exploded on men

>>744875595
What the fuck does that even mean? That's soundsgoodism. Shit that sounds profound and true, but means jack fucking shit.

Games imitate real world scenarios and behavior. You can relate to a buddy in a game, you can relate to hating an antagonist. Dumb shit just spewed nonsense and people gobble it up.

>>744875595
Going outside once a week is more than enough to remind myself how bleak and shitty IRL is. So he is not wrong at all.

>>744877834
> What the fuck does that even mean?
Kinda proving him right there, chief.

>>744875595
this is true

>>744878042
Not an argument, retard. Now you're doing that vague shit he did because you can't actually explain yourself.

>>744877101
no one asked fag

>>744875595
I'd love to "engage with other things" but nobody will hire me
I just get interviews then I get ghosted

>>744877834
>go fight a war
>get grenaded constantly
>finally get discharged after losing a leg
>play COD
>PTSD triggered like a bitch
>cry under desk because you engaged too much with games

His other hobbies
>Bass fishing
>Monopoly (he is also the president of the Japan Monopoly Association)
>Watching baseball games

>>744877101
>I've launched steel explosives on men
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

>>744878270
Bitch nigger, OP did "ask"

>>744878396
You see, this anon is joking but at least makes a point. You get an actual example of how real world experience can affect your engagement in a game.

>>744878042
Hi, could you elaborate on what the guy in OP picture meant? I'm just trying to better my life and better engage with the games I play. Could you answer the following:

A.) What it means to truly engage with the game?
B.) How being a shut-in that doesn't do much other than work on projects and plays video games affects my ability to truly engage with video games?

>>744878420
why is japan so obsessed with baseball
how do you even hit the ball with the baseball bat? that on its own seems impossible. like smacking a mosquito out of the air.

>>744878420
Based.
I do the same but play domino instead of monopoly (we have no national association AFAIK).

>>744877164
>Rock climbers don't have a weird defensive attitude about their hobby challenge: impossible

I can agree with that, works for both gamers and devlopers. The best devs are those who don't play video games at all.

>>744875595
>if you pitch a pretentious quirkslop dragon quest clone and it gets rejected, you will cry bitch tears

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>>744878524
Yeah no problem. It's simple brah. You see...
Umm. Well when you're engaging with the game you...uhh...look, sometimes you just need to go outside. And if you do that, I....

You just..

LOOK MAN, JUST GO OUTSIDE FOR BETTER GAME ENGAGEMENT. YOU ARE LACKING THE NECESSARY EXPERIENCES FOR THE TRUE ENGAGEMENT, HOLY SHIT

REEEEEEE

>>744878819
>The best devs are those who don't play video games at all.
Enjoy your new assassins creed and sportsball, anon!

>>744876983
Exercise is just something you're supposed to do, it's at the same level of intrigue as filing taxes and eating food. Get a real personality please.

>>744877101
That's cool and all but that's only past murder for pedophiles. You have to keep murdering people for pedophiles or you'll lose touch with what it's all about.

>>744878819
Yeah but how does that cause my ability to "truly" engage with the game to fade? As a gamer. Let's not beat around the bush.

Of course this quote would have anons seething.

>>744879004
You still haven't explained anything. The only one seething is you, because you know you can't defend your (his) position. So now you're doing the ol' insult approach.

I'm sure you're next post will be something like
>Hah, If I have to explain it, you're just too stupid to understand

>>744876381
Books written by crazy geniuses

>>744877834
You really think that?

I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW I CAN TRULY ENGAGE WITH MY GAMES. WHAT MUST I DO

If you want me to fucking touch grass, I'll touch grass Johnny. PLEASE. JUST FUCKING TELL ME. I NEED MAXIMUM ENGAGEMENT

>>744879121
I'm waiting to be completely annihilated with an unbeatable argument. Feel free to use chatGPT, I'm not worried.

>>744878904
The people who make those games are gamers though lmao. That's all they know how to do.

>>744879075
>The only one seething is you, because you know you can't defend your (his) position
The dude has made 4 games, released his own soundtrack, voiced characters in multiple movies, owns his own company, and is a consultant for Nintendo despite not playing video games at all. What have you done, Mr Gaymer?

things outside of gaming =/= going outside

>>744878524
A) having literary and life references to better connect with and feel resonance from a game’s themes and gameplay. For example - I have just finished reading Pincher Martin by William Golding, now I have a much deeper appreciation for ghosts and ghost characters, as well as their motivations and what type of ghost the game is describing. I work a job, I like to notice the design and implications of workplaces in games - often they are deliberately designed with meaning.
B) too self-referential. You play Metal Gear Solid and clap when they reference the other games and say then lines, but you’ll never understand what adults in the60s-80s were thinking and what forces each character and faction are meant to represent, and what cultural or political movement is being discussed and why. It will mean so much less to you because its all just fake video game

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>>744875595
>literal card carrying communist hates video games
yeah we know how to deal with your kind.

Here I am, shit posting up a storm, and yet not one single post has responded to me with anything even resembling an explanation or a good defense of that empty stupid quote. It's all the same shit

>You really think that?
>You're proving his point there, buckeroo
>HE MADE X Y AND Z, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

I mean seriously, how hard is it to explain what the hell he's talking about? Why can't you answer the question? Could it be that you like the guy and he said something that sounded profound and you hate to admit that you're actually a pretentious idiot?

>>744879462
That kid was a literal CIA MKULTRA mindbroken zogbot btw

>>744879463
See >>744879447
Stories and even video game button presses have meaning drawn from the real world and you’ll never play a video game properly unless you’re feeling what it is from the real world the game is doing

>>744879447
I appreciate a honest post. But in no way does that explain why my own personal ability to truly engage with a game is and/or will fade. One's experience with a game can be enriched, but lacking these things does not take away anything from the games ability to entertain or engage you.

>play games as a kid with zero real life experience
>fully engaged
>get real life experience and barely play games anymore
>Hate my life. Hate my job. Hate everything.

Yeah, bullshit quote.

>>744879576
> One's experience with a game can be enriched, but lacking these things does not take away anything from the games ability to entertain or engage you.
Unenriched means less engaged, disengagement is not entertainment. I think you know that, and you know there is something out there in the world you could experience that makes everything you love about video games even better

>>744879528
And he killed communists? Fucking. Based.

>>744879463
Imagine writing a novel that focused on human relationships despite never actually talking to people. All the dialog would come off as extremely robotic because your only experience would be through things you read or watched. You would have zero personal experience. You should be able to see how this relates to what Itoi was saying.

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>>744876578
>Variety = normalfaggotry
Ngmi

>>744877834
>Games imitate real world scenarios and behavior.
Only shit games

The only reason any of you enjoy video games at all is because of your other life experience

>>744879659
Yeah bro he saved his country dude

>>744879659
And created the foundation for American imperialism to slowly rot away Japan and thus creating the enshitification of Japanese games since America is never satisfied with just ruining itself.

>>744879682
What does that have to do with an abstract medium like video games

>>744875595
I was playing Blade of Darkness as this big barbarian dude which only made me realize, man, I'm a virgin, what a loser I am. So I've decided to quit playing this particular game until after I sleep with 10 women. That was three years ago and I'm at 7 right now. Kind of sad on its own but I felt like saying it

>>744879804
I know its /v/ but this single-issue video games partisan shit is unbearable

>>744879682
No, because you're not making a fair comparison. We're not talking about me writing a novel. We're talking about me playing a game. If anything, I'd be less engaged as games are not acurrate representations of real life conversations. Neither are movies.

The better quote would be, if you want to better engage with life, you should be playing less video games. That has substance.

>>744879815
Video games are less abstract than books my friend.

>>744879803
Awesome

>>744879804
Never happened, guy saved his country and now it's an ethno-fascist superstate that regularly gets chicoms pissing their pants in anger lol

>>744875595
The only way to make a good game is to play a lot of games.
No one that doesn't play games has ever made a good game.

>>744879462
He deserved it for being retarded

>>744879859
You connect better to the simulation, by having experience with what is being simulated

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>>744879913
>Japan
>ethno-fascist superstate

>>744879940
But that's absolutely empty fucking nonsense. If that's the case, we as children could not engage with the game. Yet, we often look back as the time we most enraged. When we were impressionable. Are you listening to these nonsense you are spewing? It's all the equivalent of broscience to fit a stupid quote.

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>>744879989
KUM-ITE
KUM-ITE
KUM-ITE

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>>744875595
The quote makes more sense if you understand it as proposition for lived-in contrast.

Read books, go outside, do whatever, and that gives you a breath of fresh air. Then you can come back and appreciate games with new insight, alongside a rested mind.

Sometimes I feel like I could trick you into destroying any part of your brain by framing it as something that suggests you should do anything besides play a video game. I mean Jesus Christ look at how many of you are in here arguing that present experience doesn’t draw from memory. Then again a lot of you have turned away from pissing in a toilet just because you think it’s an enemy of video games haven’t you?

>>744880012
>Yet, we often look back as the time we most enraged. When we were impressionable.
that's called nostalgia. Also known as a mental illness.

>>744878904
My man, AAA studios only hire "gamers" because they are the easiest to exploit.
Otherwise, no sane person would accept the conditions they offer

>>744877834
Based shadow enjoyer

>>744879886
Everything outside of the mechanics is nothing more than abstraction. The visuals are not the game.

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>>744875595
There isn't anything worth experiencing in the big 26. Nobody here can name a single thing worth doing.

>>744880012
What experience do you think you don’t have as a child? You’ve experienced movement, jumping athleticism colors, objects, space time, goals, currency. All these things were necessary for the game to mean anything to you, and there’s a reason why babies aren’t playing metal gear solid and instead only seem to enjoy bouncing colors on a screen - because they have experience with bouncing colors but not military operations

>>744880098
Nostalgia is a good thing actually, it's your mind telling you what's good.

>>744880172
>being mentally ill is a good thing actually

>>744879989
>woman prime minister wants immigrants to rape and impregnant their women and steal jobs from native man
They deserve it for being retarded

>>744875595
This week I had my wife wear the sluttiest type of bikini that I've been super into since I was like 9, the slingshot. Great experience. I also bought a toy randomly that my parents wouldn't buy me as a kid that I desperately wanted. Great experience. To be clear I own zero toys, dolls, vinyls etc. But it just feels like it repaired something in me to have this

What new things did you experience this month, or year, anons?

>>744880130
They’re literally geometric simulations of movement in space and time with a visual art layer, a sound layer, and a written script. The game part operates on all the same principles as any game ever has - moves, obstacles, goals. It’s just a new age form of collage.

>>744880138
art created before "the big 26" still exists and you can still experience it, zoomer retard.

>>744876060
let us guess, he found nothing

>>744880012
>If that's the case, we as children could not engage with the game.
Do you have the exact same taste in games as you did as a kid?

>>744880247
I got married!

>>744880212
>If I call this good thing mental illness (made up concept btw) that means I win
Only a fool things the mind and body are separate and need to be treated as such, they are harmonious and have a oneness that feeds into itself. Your entire theory is flawed, nostalgia is your brain communicating to you in the least pretentious way imaginable.

>>744879989
Husbant... ret's not make kiddsu...

>>744880272
>Can't name anything specific
>Just vaguely alludes to something
Every single time.

>>744880148
You're really trying to make this work, and it's not the in cards.

In my life, the things that have disengaged me from games has been EXPERIENCE itself. LIFE. Work, people, responsibilities. Me going skydiving, or traveling around Europe or getting laid isn't going to make GTA6 more or less engaging. You're clinging on to an empty platitude. Games are entertainment. They aren't that serious.

>>744880314
That's nice, but I don't really care about the babbling of someone admitting they are mentally ill.

>>744880362
Literally anything made before the year 2026

>>744877834
Video games can't provide the same level of dopamine forever if that's all you do. Pretty simple.

>>744880012
Babies and even adults cant enjoy Gran Turismo until they learn how to tune a car, even better they’ve done it themselves irl QED

>>744879463
Gaming isn't fun when all you do is gaming.

>>744880286
No, I found out I prefer entirely different games by....wait for it.....PLAYING MORE GAMES

>>744880402
Why not?

>>744880242
Women sure do love getting raped by brown and black people.

>>744877734
KEKW

>>744880370
You trust those with an illness of the mind to identify it themselves? Your entire theory is a gaping abyss of reason. None to be found.

>>744880401
>Still can't name anything
Thought so.

>>744875595
>OP posts that you can't spend your whole life only playing videogames and it's good to have other interests and hobbies.
>Basement dwelling dipshits with horrible lives feel attacked
Kek good thread OP

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>>744880242
Takaichi is, surprisingly, more anti globohomo than her predecessor (but only slightly). It would have happened in greater quantities under Ishiba. Jiminto is completely controlled by the USA, which the evil commie that the zogbot killed was trying to stop.

>>744880428
Biology, entropy

>>744880362
Have you played all the HL1 expansions, including decay. Or any of the best mods for it. Sven Co-op is still getting new content to this day

>>744880496
That wasn't the quote you disingenuous cocksucker. Don't try to change shit when you've lost the argument.

>>744876149
this
>>744876406
>>744876698
faggots

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>>744875595
Sounds like normalfaggot cope lol

>>744875595
>rl friendslop

>>744876149
Is going bikepacking reddit slop too?

>>744880417
No, your life experiences grew so you were able to understand more complex games.

>>744880365
You dont really seem to understand what experience is, we’re not talking about distractions from playing, we’re talking about things you remember from your life as you play? For example skydiving experience will make MGS3’s HALO jump more impressive and visceral, can remember it on your face. Or I erase your knowledge of forcing holding your breath and see if the drowning music in sonic feels the same?
Experience =/= stressful homework. Skydiving is for fun too

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>>744880413
You're right, anon. Climbing Mt. Everest, and the cheese party with Viktor last Saturday really improvement my engagement percentage this weekending BF6.

>>744880310
Congratulations anon!!

When she gets you to the point where you're about to break something go for a drive. Just leave. Spend some time out and cool down. Being married is a constant cycle of sacrifice and making things work. Remember that

>>744877101
Goodest goy.

>>744880532
Kek, you are just proving my post true by seething about it instantly. Do something other than gaming and you might have insight.

>>744880696
But that wasn't his quote anon. Let me show you how we don't quote:

>>744880696
>Kek, you are just proving my post true by seething about it instantly. Do something other than gaming and you might have insight.

Anon, don't call yourself a pretentious aggot like that.

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>>744877834
>Games imitate real world scenarios and behavior.
No they don't, LMAO.
Real life combat is nothing like cod or other popular shooters.
Medieval combat is nothing like souls likes or DMC.
Even with games that try to be like simulators, you will never get the same experience as in real life.

>>744880759
Anon maybe your new hobby can be sucking my fat cock

>>744880520
I've played both gearbox expansions. Never tried decay.

>>744880827
>fat cock
Well since you like broscience so much, I'm sure I can find you a nice quote about feeding times and cold showers to kickstart that metabolism.

>>744878819
>The best devs are those who don't play video games at all.
I don't really think so.
All my favorite games were made by people who also play games.
Only Nintendo has the reputation of deliberately hiring non gamers.
And their games are all kiddy slop with no variety.

>>744880675
Yep! We’ve been together for quite some time so im familiar with that routine, wouldn’t have married her if she didnt understand it too. Space and time is occasionally needed, its the basic space-time principle

>>744876381
sex

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Video games are actually well written and decently balanced unlike real life.

Why do you zoomers just attack each other like this? It makes me sad, it shows you don't know how to interact because of lack of real world

Everything isn't about one upping the other person. Unless you're Indian

Oh wait I understand now. Nevermind. Why am I still coming here? 20 years this year. 20!

>>744880995
All I asked was for someone to explain the empty stupid quote. All I got was a bunch of asspull.

>>744880973
I wish you many years of blessed happiness.

Also, the brand "Avidlove" on Amazon is your friend. Don't be afraid of 6 dollar stuff. It's all silky smooth and comfortable these days, not scratchy anymore.

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No really, I could probably get you idiots to disown breathing itself if I implied some liberal recommended it to decrease gaming

>>744880946
Your favorite games are mediocre modern indie games no one gives a fuck about?

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>>744881056
What practical advice!

>>744876060
Let me guess, they actually searched each others bodies?

>>744875595
It's funny because the more I engage with things outside of gaming the less I want to play.

>>744881193
The agender agenda

>>744881193
Anon, your failed attempts at wit have brought you no closer to winning the argument. Take the L and move on with your empty motivational speeches.

>>744880995
If I was on 4chan for over 20 years I'd kill myself

>>744881265
Yeah I'm the same. Both good and bad. Good because why would I need games if life is great. Bad because work can drain you and demotivate you.

>>744881272
Bro
Bro
You are the one with nothing in life besides video games.
You are not dispensing any Ls to anyone ever.

>>744878942
What's wrong with pdf s?

>>744881272
Its not even a matter of motivation, its about basic awareness of how the brain works. Or did you forget exactly how much experience you have when you play games?

>>744881375
So you admit my engagement hasn't Faded? I JUST NEED TO KNOW

Hey guys I know you think he said ‘you personally, for playing video games, are a loser who has no experience and has done nothing’, but if you look closely, you’ll notice he didn’t

>>744881303
So how many years left? 6-7?

>>744881198
Here's actual practical advice. Get term life insurance from New York Life. For about $45 a month she gets 200k at least if you die in the next 25 years. The numbers will vary based on you but will be close to that. It is a literal no brainer.

>>744881272
>argument
Low IQ mongoloid post

>>744881410
Who said anything about faded? There is some experience somewhere that would make you enjoy some game more. That is all all all

>>744875595
while this is true for any hobby I stopped playing video games a loooong time ago and life didn't make me want to engage with games anymore. Video games are so bad. Browsing /v/ every now and then is more entertaining

>>744876137
oh you~

>>744881489
More like 19 lmao

>>744875595
Says the guy that made storyfag games. Having other hobbies shows just how worthless video game stories are.

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>advise anon to get non-vidya hobbies in addition to vidya
>anon gets angry and defensive about how it's unnecessary
>another time advise anon to take care of his health, go to the gym
>watch anon argue being fat and unathletic is better because you're less likely to be drafted
You're just slothful faggots.

Gonna tally the thread minus the same fags. Seems more people disengage from games the more they engage with life.

I declare the quote trash and declare myself the winner.

>>744875595
I was thinking about this when I saw the new MonkeyNess video

https://youtu.be/VOQIFMpHnlw

>>744881767
You know what he meant

I think my biggest regret it was not going to Olive Garden last tuesday. I was not on my A game for Counter-Strike

>>744881856
Yes, I knew what he meant. But it's not what he said. He tried to sound profound and ended up saying something that actually had no substance. I hate when people do that shit

>>744875674
Nigga this is the dude who made Earthbound. He knows what he's talking about.

>>744881940
>i know what he meant but if i read it wrong he sounds stupid
Quit doing this shit. You are making yourself stupid leaving yourself behind in a flurry of irrelevant insults

>>744880362
Well, you could play the Mother trilogy (the games made by the dude in the OP).

>>744881761
You are not a true gamer if you have other hobbies

>>744875595
He's right. Consuming only one type of media makes you bad at creating and enjoying it. It makes everything derivative. Enjoy other hobbies, including physical and outdoors hobbies.

>>744879750
>Variety
Like making the same thread with the same Itoi quote for the millionth time? That kind of variety?

>>744882248
What if my other hobby besides vidya is game dev

Mother isn't even good in any way whatsoever

I remember renting it and feeling actually offended at the presentation

>>744875595
I think this quote has a point, but is mostly used by people trying to justify the prevalence of people who don't really know video games but still have power over video games.
>but that's a good thing, those nasty gamers just want to remake their favorite game
And? What's so bad about remaking something someone loves for actual reasons rather than remaking the most successful entry in the franchise? The idea that anyone who actually fucking likes games would be worse for game dev than someone who doesn't is mostly pushed by the companies that genuinely do hate "gamers".

>>744882687
Playing videogames is not a hobby.

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>>744876381
Having a life outside of video games

"Creative incest" is a very real problem and it's propagated by the retards you see on 4chan who think if your work is not 100% original it "doesn't count", and propagated by corporate suits who have no fucking idea how to continue a work without self-reference like Star Wars

If you don't read a lot of fantasy you're not going to write interesting fantasy because you're going to be starstruck by entry-level shit, this kind of problem (a criticism I remember being leveled at Harry Potter when it was a fresh series, J.K. Rowling's unfamiliarity with both magical fantasy and boarding-house fiction led to an uninspired blend of both)

>>744881761
Truthfully I just don't like or care about anything that's not games. I just don't enjoy anything about real life whatsoever. It's not as if I can force myself to enjoy other things.

>>744875595
He doesn't play video games.

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>>744875595
>Go to gym
>Work
>Sometimes play soccer with the bros
>Travelled to Europe and SEA countries
>Still hate the modern state of gayming and wish for a 2nd video game collapse
This is a quote for insufferable pseudo intellectuals on xitter. The Japanese love to give out those dogshit quotes that almost always appeals to normalfag superiority when normalfags don't give a shit about hobbies in general now. The anime or train otaku is infinitely better than the average retard that plays his shitty TikTok videos on full volume in public

>>744883248
It sounds to me like you're advocating for creators to spread out within their genre of their medium and look at what people are already doing. Isn't that kind of the opposite of the quote? And definitely the opposite of most people who would agree with the quote? And by extension, an agreement that anyone who wants to make games should be knowledgeable about the type of game they want to make first?

>>744883578
God, no, reading comprehension. Pull from things that aren't video games when making video games.

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>>744879528
Your hero was ZOG popstar btw

Gotta have a real life and touch grass so I can be a worldly human being and then use all of my experiences to uhhh make art that just fetishizes my own memories and further plays into the delusion that materialism is based and not a total affront to divinity.

>>744883861
>a fantasy author should read fantasy before they write
>a video game dev should ABSOLUTELY NOT play video games before they develop
Make it make sense

>>744883248
It really feels like a matter of balance. It’s good to know the medium or genre you are working with, but it’s also bad if you are so much in love with the cliches of the genre or medium that you only regurgitate them up instead of creating something actually new. I guess that the ideal game designer should have both love for the medium, but also great amount of curiosity towards world in general to tap some outside-the-box ideas from.

>>744875595
Can't go hiking or camping because ticks don't die off during winter anymore. Every other hobby is full of annoying normalfags I don't want to be around.

>>744883971
Genre-savviness is important too but you're clearly not listening. Go read Dune and tell me what might have been an influence on it.

>>744883082
then what is it

>>744884167
People overemphasize the value of the stuff you get from outside of games because most people who have the motive to be game developers already love games and don't need to be convinced to play them.
Or at least that's the theory. In practice, I think that's bullshit, and most devs need to be convinced to actually play video games.

>>744875595
It's nonsense

Other basic human principles addict gamers deny
- Sleep
- Metabolism
- Hydration
- Toilet use

>>744884269
>genre savviness is important
MEDIUM savviness is important in video games. That's what I'm saying. We've gotten stuck in place mechanically because we have a generation of developers who haven't played enough video games making games for a generation of players who mostly don't give a shit about video games.
>but all the classic devs who made innovation didn't play video games
Zelda 1's gameplay was based on fucking Ultima. Miyamoto didn't pull top down dungeon crawling gameplay out of his memories of exploring caves as a child. He saw mechanics in another game and made a game that used similar mechanics to express how an experience in his real life made him feel.
>read dune
That would put me out for the rest of the thread at least, I'm not ten anymore, I can't tear through hundreds of pages a day.

>>744884307
>overemphasize things outside of-
How could you ever say this sanely about any subject? As if you really were just ‘video game island’ man and life is just a matter of creating solipsistic specialists

>>744884646
> I'm not ten anymore, I can't tear through hundreds of pages a day.
Yes yes you’ve degenerates quite a bit haven’t you

>>744875595
what he meant by "things outside of gaming" was beatles music exclusively

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>>744880560
hi :)

No please, continue participating in absolutely nothing besides video games. That’s what makes it so easy for me to just poorly copy any book directly and shit it out in game form, and make a million dollars from you who think 8’m the genius who invented it. Please stay stupid, the only reason any of us have any money is because of your ignorant rube buy-in, just how we like it

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>ITOI:
>YOU NEED TO GO OUTSIDE BE NORMIE BE JAP GOY AND OBEY THE LAW SHIT YOUR PANTS AND PASS OUT IN THE STREET

>>744884883
That will get you very far fwiw

>>744885001
I thought Japan was like a utopia
Now I will stop supporting Japan forever

>>744884646
>I can't tear through hundreds of pages a day.
Fuck, dude, I can tear through hundreds of pages a day without even thinking about it, I live to read.

>>744884989
>if you don't have a seething hatred for video games you must know nothing about any other medium or hobby
Where do you people get this shit anyhow
Is that really how the OP quote looks to you?

>>744876381
I have some side hobbies that i think can be gamified and nobody has ever attempted to do it. I'm going to keep it ultra autistic because i know how the thing works and behaves.

>>744875595
I think there's some truth to it and you see it in modern western writing in general, not just in video games. Writers back in the day usually did a lot of shit in their lives and were much better at making believable and serious worlds. Now every writer is some nepo baby hired straight out of the same couple leftist colleges who grew up in gated communities. Their only life experience is consuming the media they end up working in. As a result, their world building always feels fake, edgeless and retarded and their characters are unlikeable to anyone who isn't a sheltered college leftoid.

>>744885132
>a seething hatred for
Again with the hyperbole! I was speaking to those who protest his quote, if that helps

That OP never fails to make the absolute cretins on this board seethe that they are losers

>>744885248
Hyperbole? Anon, have you seen the people who post this quote? 99.99% of them hate gaming as a whole and wish gamers would do ANYTHING else. They don't actually want gamers to enjoy games or make better ones, they want to feel good about themselves for not enjoying games.

>>744875595
Hard to believe this guy ended up being a leftist
(or at least as much of one that a successful jap can be)

Kinda feels like that's how most manga and animes are now. Just a bunch of otaku that grew up reading that shit and thought to themselves "I want to work in the anime industry!"

>>744885348
Lmfao who posts this quote? You take it as a dogwhistle? You’re fucking hyperbolic, look at you lol!

>>744875595
based and true

>>744885794
>OP brought it up because it's rare and valuable insight!
Whatever infinitesimally tiny percentage of the gaming sphere this actually applies to is unlikely to see "help" like this. People who post it know this and don't care because to them, the proper level of engagement with games is "none" and everyone in this board may as well exclusively play games because they don't shit on games enough. This shitty quote is posted by people who do not like video games at all and want to validate their feelings.
>nuh uh, nobody posts or agrees with this quote that's been spammed regularly for years!
Lmao.

>>744886073
>continues his screed
Yep, you’re hyperbolic. The point of my first post was ‘it is your lack of literacy that allows people to sell you derivative slop’ but nooooo you had to go fight ghosts didnt you

>>744886179
>The point of my first post was ‘it is your lack of literacy that allows people to sell you derivative slop’
And the point of my reply was "this thread isn't about literacy, it's about shitting on people who like gaming".
>but it's not a dogwhistle
Yes it is, just like that rant from that one director who urges other directors not to watch movies because he hates homages and believes one directly leads to the other.
Do not blame gamers for buying slop when normalfags are overwhelmingly the ones at fault.

>>744886463
Well, then, its tough being so sensitive about your long war that you can’t take a simple quote clearly. Now why don’t you reply to somebody your bitching actually applies to, buddy? Funny to think liberals have tricked you into thinking leaving the house is an anti-gamer conspiracy.

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>>744875595
I mean, he's right

>>744886762
>you think leaving the house is an anti-gamer conspiracy
Look at that. I informed you this shitty point is much more often a dogwhistle than a real argument, and you immediately turned and assumed I was one of the people this point actually applies to.
No. There are maybe a few hundred people worldwide who need to hear this. The amount of people who automatically dismiss games even when they're making games is much higher than the amount of people who exclusively play games.

Itoi is a literal faggot and his works are so bad they resonate the hardest with homestuck tumblrinas, possibly the furthest away one can be from having even the slightest culture.

>>744886989
Reply to the OP and not a random ass post then. Because I said, a lack of literacy leads to being manipulated by derivative shit, and your post has nothing to do with that. I only brought up with you yourself brought up to me.

>>744887268
What* you yourself

>>744882687
To be a good game dev you need to know programming and art, so that's good. You should also get ideas from other things in your life.

OK now raise your hand if when you hear this quote, you think he is saying that you have never done anything and have no experiences

>>744886989
By the way, nobody would ever be able to come at you if you simply looked at the quote and said ‘yes that’s fair’,because it is.

>>744884646
>We've gotten stuck in place mechanically because we have a generation of developers who haven't played enough video games
No lmao. Big budget games don't innovate technically because they're engineered for value extraction to satisfy shareholders, not players. Indie games may come up with a novel idea now and again but the medium has matured enough by this point technologically where there's a ceiling on what you can push with a "garage budget". Creativity, distinct concept from innovation and what the OP is actually about, is dead across all mediums BECAUSE we consume too much media. Reading lots of fantasy may make you savvy to the genre but it's not going to give YOU anything interesting to write when your entire experience of the world is through other people's eyes.

>>744887268
>a lack of literacy leads to being manipulated by derivative shit
Same with gaming. That's why random concepts take over normalfag games so hard. Open world, survival with crafting, battle royale, these are the results of non-gamers having authority over games. We do not need any voices pushing for the authority over games to have even LESS knowledge of games, no matter how indirectly.

Another big trick is that video game developers should be engineers, mathematicians, scientists, physicists, all sorts of cists, not “trained game dev “. Your genius data structures and designs come from applying outside design disciplines to the field of game design and programming

>>744887502
The quote on its own is fair. The sentiment it conveys is unfair: games now more than ever need people who like them in charge.

>>744887582
Your evaluation is extremely incorrect (especially highlighted by the successes of recent backrooms obsession etc) on its basis; you are categorically, provably wrong about what is happening. Lack of innovation *is* stifling value for shareholders.

You also, absurdly, are not aware of the concept of imagination, so you're Indian, Chinese, or Korean without any doubt.

>>744887665
I don’t know why you think its an either-or. Exactly how expansive of outside interest do you think he is demanding people have? It’s a pretty mild and relative statement don’t you think? I think he’s even talking about like listening to music to get ideas and stuff.

>>744887827
It doesn’t convey that sentiment, it makes no statement about how much video games you should play. No person only plays video games

>>744887932
He thinks its either or because he has never done a single thing in his life but play video games.

A lot of people here are objectively stunted failures.

>>744887582
>Big budget games don't innovate technically because they're engineered for value extraction to satisfy shareholders, not players
That is because the shareholders in charge of those big budget games do not play games and thus aren't actually gratified by their mechanical development. How does that disagree with my point?
>Creativity, distinct concept from innovation and what the OP is actually about, is dead across all mediums BECAUSE we consume too much media
Oh, you're one of THOSE. A hardline "creativity comes from applying real experiences to fiction" type. Disagree. People get derivative because they haven't put in the time or effort to process the media they've consumed, not because they consumed media in the first place.

>>744885001
This could be YAKUZA 0

>>744876149
>mfw I was right about filtering posts with the word “slop” in them

>>744876381
6th street
Austin, TX

>>744888095
assmad zoom zoom reddit KEK KWAB
you lost btw KEK

>>744888095
for someone who talks that much with slop, you'd expect them to make it out sloppy every night

>>744877101
Thank you for your service

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Itoi is so fucking funny to me
>be already well established writer
>be writing ad copy for a company called Nintendo
>meet with one of their top dudes named Shigeru Miyamoto
>tell him "hey I been playing this thing called Dragon Quest and I got an idea for a game"
>Shiggy just says okay and gets a dev team together so Itoi can put out Mother and this team would later go on to work on Pokemon

What the fuck was game development in the 80s.

Then again, of the big Nintendo OGs from the 80s and early 90s, only really Iwata has what you'd now consider a conventional video game development career track with his background in computer science. The rest are all from art or design universities.

>>744887582
>Big budget games don't innovate technically because they're engineered for value extraction to satisfy shareholders, not players
Microshit has given free reign to every game studio they owned for several years and all they made was dogshit garbage. Sony did the same to Bungie and you know what they did? Sony asked Bungie for advice on their GaaS and was told by Bungie to scrap the Last of Us 2 multiplayer and that Spiderman GaaS title, massive mistakes, especially last of us).

People give executives too much credit for ruining games when developers themselves are also part of the problem.

>>744887932
>Exactly how expansive of outside interest do you think he is demanding people have?
Enough that gaming is not allowed to be one of their favorite hobbies and they'd happily completely drop it for years at a time in favor of their job or gardening or something.
>It’s a pretty mild and relative statement don’t you think?
Yeah, it is very mild and relative. Which is why I'm so worried. "You should care even less about games" coming from the guy who already made the "games don't really matter, go live a Real Life" series makes it sound like he's personally disappointed in anyone who liked his games but didn't completely quit gaming after playing them.

>>744888404
Making games was easy and didn't cost so much money.

>>744888467
? Those ideas are both just money burning pits