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It was genuinely one of my favorite games ever. In 2016. Then they bloated it with endless "final updates" that banked on the emotional terrorism of being the "last" one to milk every drop of engagement. As result, I am burned out, and I resent this game.

>>745164893
It's better than it has ever been, shitter.

>>745164893
I can understand criticizing it for being bloated or for being a wiki-game but the difference between 1.3 and 1.4 is not significant enough for it to somehow go from one of your favorite games ever to being a game you hate

the calamity mod seems cool

i have decision paralysis about the secret seeds. there's so many and they all sound intetesting and you can combine them..

>>745164680
>is that a new furniture item?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>745164680
Always thought that cover art looked really stilted and cheap.
It would unironically be 10 times better without the dude in the middle. Wtf even is that pose

graphics and multiplayer need improvement though

>>745165610
Yeah, so combine them..

>>745166154
if you combine them all you get zenith which is dogshit unfun

what are the calamity alternatives?

>>745166354
Zenith is the best seed

>>745166104
I love the game but Terraria's are in general is pretty shit.

>>745164680
too much bloat. tried to replay it again recently and nothing is as I remembered and it turned me off.

>>745164680
bloatslop

>>745167381
Sorry to hear. It's still as good as ever for me. Just put in another 100 hour playthrough after trying out some new content mods. Ancients Awakened was the most recent, and ehhh I wouldn't recommend it too much. A little too milquetoast.

>>745166808
The spritework is mostly fine desu, albeit not groundbreaking.

i'll never understand bloatposters. it's just more content, more cool stuff, more bosses more items more things to find.. it's impossible for it to be a bad thing. i hope they never stop adding stuff

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>>745164680
i could never get into it

>>745164893
You never played it, Rajeesh. You were too impoverished to have a computer.
>mobile
You didn't play the game.

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>>745167695
>it's just more content
There is ZERO reason for the crimson to exist.

>>745167845
its fun and cool and neat

>>745167762
Best way to get into it is in multiplayer, it changes the vibe.

>>745164680
I played it with some friends 5 or 6 years ago. It was cool. We beat all the bosses and I did everything you needed to do to get Zenith. I like when games have god-tier OP endgame stuff you can grind out just to definitely say you've conquered the game.

If heard people talk a lot about some "calamity" mod recently. I wonder what that's all about.

>>745168140
The calamity mod is a humongous content mod that adds a ton of stuff to the game, but many people hate it for being a bloated mess with no cohesion to the base game.

Two lead devs for the calamity mod came out as degenerates from discord, and the whole mod has basically been put on indefinite hiatus because of them.

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>>745167695
>bloatposters
>posters (multiple)
anon...
there's been an obvious push by some retard into getting shitposting lingo about terraria to "stick" for almost a decade now
before the spur.us shit kicked in you'd see a header.jpg terraria thread every day on /v/ with some retard either trying to push the buzzword in his OP post or a few posts after it

>umm how do you know it's just one gu-
Because back when we used to have IP counters, there would be 4 posts in a row with 1 IP EVERY THREAD.

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>>745164680
Not until they add sex to the game

>>745168381
So it's like an unofficial expansion developed by weirdos. I swear I've heard of this happening so many times before in other games too.

>>745168990
Thankfully there are tons of mods that aren't developed by degenerates. So if you want a new experience, you can play with mods like Thorium or Redemption, which expand on the game's content with more areas and more bosses and more items. Also of note is the QOL mods that streamline mechanics. My favorite is magic storage.

It's good, but I kinda think Necesse may have surpassed it in the genre.

>>745167762
I really enjoyed it at first, and slowly grew less fond of it the deeper I got in to it. I was much more interested in exploration than big boss battles, and it seemed like the latter kept getting more emphasized. While I didn't object to the difficulty itself, it also seemed silly to me that the primary threat when facing eldritch abominations is that they would successfully run away.

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>>745164680
Modded is so fun, been playing this on and off since the 360 but I only did mods one other time in like 2019 or 2020
Calamity was mid, Thorium sorta feels like an expansion for Terraria so far

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>>745167695
"More content" in the form of literal shit furniture and 20 varieties of bomb less efficient than existing tools isn't exactly welcome. This game is still killing for a Hallow alternative.

eww what happen to calamity

Fargos won
Thorium won
Mod of redemption won
Calakeks LOST

>>745164680
it'll be even better if they add auto-trash to vanilla

>>745171810
Nobody can decide upon which alternative would be best. Some people want a candy theme, some want a robopunk dystopia, and then there was that guy who pitched an eyeball themed biome, and people laughed at him, so he went and made the Spooky mod.

>>745171810
>a Hallow alternative
honestly would prefer a new standard biome and a new evil biome. Hallow standing alone always felt perfect to me. The three mechanical boss souls + hallow bars makes your hallowed equipment. No reason to mess with that.

Now I get to laugh at and make fun off all those fags I would argue with on tiktok who got mad when I told them the entire Calameme team was full of schizo pedo retards and that it wasn't just Fagsol. What a great time to be alive!

>>745169120
Lol no. Of all the games you could've picked

>>745171420
Does anyone know if you can do spirit and thorium together or is there biome/art conflicts

>>745175310
I've done a run with Thorium/Spirit/Redemption/Fargos/Stars Above. There's really no conflict. The problem mod is Calamity, it hates being installed with others due to changes in Worldgen. Same reason why other massive mods, like Ancients Awakened, don't play nice with the smaller mods.

Do be careful, though. With spirit, you have a choice between spirit classic and spirit reforged. I've played with both of them simultaneously, and nothing majorly bad happened, but except some weirdness in certain biomes spawning, like the spirit biome. Also expect a chunk of the jungle to be replaced with the Savannah. Other than that I've beaten them all to completion.

>>745175310
>>745175487
If you want to be safe, I would avoid using both spirit classic and reforged together. They can cause conflict with eachother, even though the mod devs say that there's not much conflict. but individually, you can add spirit OR spirit reforged to a mod pack and generally not have problems.

>>745169120
I enjoyed Necesse quite a bit but I don't think it's quite comparable. I do think something like Resilience could work pretty well in Terraria though, particularly for (real) melee weapons.

I always want to get better at building houses but I can never get good at it
I am now thinking about learning how to make mods so I can make a house blueprint mod or something in that nature

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>>745164680
Definitely one of the greatest.

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>>745164680
your god died

>>745177138
But I am too intelligent to care about something that focuses 90% of its dev time on hardmode/post-moon lord content when pre-hardmode is peak tewwawia

>>745177243
So then i take it you know the peak exploration mods

>>745177138
If you're into modding games, I'm sure you know the biggest and at the same time most cancerous and most unfitting mod with the worst community for your favorite game. Calamity is (or was) that for Terraria.

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>>745164893
>"i want LESS content!!!"

>>745177138
?
Thorium is still alive and well.

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Philosophically I don't recognize the notion that there can be a single "greatest videogame of all time" but Terraria's on my list of games that I absolutely recommend people play.
The only real major flaw I can think to point to with it is that it does suffer a bit with the New Game+ sort of experience with Hardmode being re-worked into the second half of the game and the pre-hardmode side of the game getting shafted pretty bad.

>>745178642
Red was so fucking based for this

>>745168381
Calamity went from being famous for worm bosses to being famous for the boss's worm

>>745178642
Crazy how bare bones the game was when it came out.
https://youtu.be/w7uOhFTrrq0
Yet, I'm one of those suckers who bought it, after pirating it originally.

>>745178893
Was it ever confirmed that Fas and Ozz were both kiddie diddling or just "accusations"?

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>>745164680
It's boring, also I hate games that give silence windows or parts where nothing is happening of boring grind because leaves room for my mind to start thinking of bad things and I don't want to play anymore

>>745179950
Speak English nigger

>>745164680
FORSEN PLAY TERRARIA YOU BITCH

apache update when

>>745178642
top kek

Terraria updates be like
>Ore type between Copper and Tin
>Pre-hardmode yoyo
>2 paintings
>10 NPC dialogues
>Zombie variant with a hat

It's fun until you realize the entire game is the exact same shit from hour 1 to hour 10000.

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>>745177138

>need a separate client to run mods
>need a 2nd monitor to keep the wiki open

lol
lmao even

ill never4get the good times before rushfag ruined /vm/ servers

>>745181157
>need a 2000 dollar air conditioner to keep me cool in the summer
>need a 300 dollar razer keyboard with LGBT lighting
>need a 400 dollar mouse for -20 less milliseconds in input lag
>need a 7000 dollar monitor for those crisp 7k pixels
>need a 500,000 dollar house in a rich neighborhood so someone doesn't break in and stab me

THANKS RED, I'M 5 MILLION IN THE HOLE AND STUCK SUCKING DICKS AT OLIVE GARDEN. I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY,.

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I attempted for the worthy hardcore and died on WoF. It’s too hard bros everything fucking one shots you

Terraria is basically equivalent to an entry level beginner minecraft modpack. It does completely mog vanilla minecraft though

>>745181479
Having played and made modpacks for myself, no Terraria stomps most of them.
Modpacks for Minecraft are mostly a meme because the base game itself has so little to offer and now having to account for interoperability that you simply can't make a modpack without having it just be a clone of one of the factory ones without having to completely isolate its progression to itself.

>>745167695
riddle me this anon, if more content = always better, why don't you play with as large a mod list as you could possbily muster? add ALL the bosses, ALL the weapons, ALL the items, I mean more content is always better right? it's IMPOSSIBLE for it to be a bad thing, so why won't you go ahead and never stop adding stuff, it's ALWAYS better

>>745182213
NTA but I always love doing that. Shove as much into the game as humanly possible, and my playthroughs easily last 200+ hours. The only reason I don't add more is due to limitations of the software itself.

>>745181479
minecraft adventure/rpg/combat packs just suck
the technical ones can be fun and neat but that's about it
>make your own
no

>>745182490
well you do you anon, live your best life, at least you're consistent I guess, I for one like when things have a vision and are more cohesive, I'm not sure you could even have that after tweaking and updating something for as long as terraria has but that's almost a philosophical discussion at this point

>>745164680
Gayest fucking logo and art Ive ever aeen

>>745181826
Mostly, the greatest content mods on Minecraft are tech mods. Minecraft combat just suck so much, so it's hard to make a mod comparable to Calamity. In the other hand, Terraria basically have almost no tech mods in comparison.

>>745182213
>lol you like this game with a lot of content? why don't you add shit tons more content?? gottem.

>>745183876
That's because there's no actual meat to the "game" of minecraft, even as far back as invdev the only thing it has was gathering resources.
Yeah having the shmoopledink machine double your ores out of your auto cobblestone is nice so you aren't constantly running out of resources to build the nine different components but you still haven't fixed the issue that minecraft basically has no gameplay and in this day and age trading worlds/builds is dead so there aren't even extrinsic factors for you to chase.

>>745164893
This, but also I resent red for nerfing literally everything fun in the game and constantly adding anti-fun mechanics like torch luck and NPC happiness (and some that are annoying like endless NPC padding making you build twice the house as before to get key NPCs) and not all of them were reverted, some red even doubled down on, also constantly having immersion-breaking collabslop that just so happens to have gamebreaking items that may or may not be nerfed to the ground next update.
And this is before even mentioning all the DEI and bestiality bullshit like the literal zoophile furry NPC.
It felt like I was playing single player 2D fortnite at some point and legitimately soured all the fun memories of the game I had over the years.
The constant frankly pointless updates also kept breaking the modloader and fragmenting the modding community, which also effectively fucked over mods too, and that's also before considering the rod of discord upgrade among other items and mechanics straight up only being added to fuck with mod balance and design because red is a spiteful bitch over calamity and fargo doing better endgame content than his piss empress.

>>745184038
yeah Minecraft's only draw is terraforming and building shit, they learned that ages ago and made the creative mode

>>745184151
Considering your spoiled text, deciding to make post end-game progression is your own fault and The portal gun rips the game a way bigger asshole than the rod of discord could ever hope to and it literally EXISTS for the purpose of giving it to a fresh character and replaying the game with it and isn't locked behind extremely low drop chance of an obscure enemy and is doubly so in the game now that there's a secret seed that lets you skip a replay of the game if you don't have your saves/character on hand

>>745183994
so let me get this straight, there's no difference to you? it's all content at the end of the day? you don't care what it is, as long as there's more of it you're happy like a little piggy to the trough? huh, interesting

>>745184456
As long as it's good content. It doesn't have to be super vital for every playthrough, but even something as mundane as a new chair or a new pre-HM boomerang is nice to have.

There's a far cry between something mundane and something outright terrible, like Calameme content.

>>745164893
I'm not even mad about the constant "final updates" specifically, they can add or change whatever, I'm mad that it means mods can never stabilize because tmodloader has to do a major overhaul update every so often that then forces mods to stop what they're doing, redo their entire code to fit with whatever new parameters that the recodes involved, and THEN they can start chugging along towards new content within the very limited window of time they have before tmodloader updates to the next "final update".

>>745184585
That seems like more of a problem with tmodloader itself than Terraria. There didn't need to be a massive overhaul update for 1.4.5. It was just a content update, mostly. NOt like they completely ripped apart the code and taped it back together.

>>745184642
anon, the devs literally do code overhauls constantly just to fuck with mods

>>745184679
When was the last time they did that?

>>745184519
>As long as it's good content.
>like Calameme content.
oh so Calameme is bad? but I thought all content was good? and more is always better? you're so close to getting it anon, it's almost as if people that complain about bloat don't like the new content relogic put in the game, shocking I know

>>745184823
Calameme content is bad because it hampers other content because it's selfish. If Fagsol and Ozzie didn't constantly nerf other mods intentionally, just so their gay snowflake mod could come out on it, it would be welcome in all of my playthroughs.

>>745184783
Like last update.

>>745184783
1.4.5, right now? Tmodloader is still working its ass off to be functional for that version, and 1.4.5 was months ago.

>>745184967
>>745184941
Kinda sounds like laziness on tmodloader's part. I play plenty of other games that often overhaul themselves in a big way, and yet modders are ready within the next month.

>>745185020
Not laziness, it's literally because 1.4.5 was a major recode.
https://github.com/tModLoader/tModLoader/issues/5070

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>>745178642
still is

I like it but I hate this game cause I'm bad at it. Progressing on classic isn't fun and master is too hard. After a few bosses I'm tired of it and am not even sure what to do next and then I ask myself why on earth I would ever want to trash my world with forever pillars and various kinds of corruption. Shit I'm barely having fun now and you want to make it shitter? No way dude. It's okay though. Solid 7/10 game. The Unisex player character is kinda gay as fuck so it loses points but whatever.

>>745185084
I see. Well, in the meantime, at least 1.4.4 is still maintained. And even 1.4.3 is still playable. So I'm not worried.

>>745185020
>It's the modder's fault and they are lazy for not keeping up with our constant vibecoded refactoring, that we actively fuck over modders by other means too is just a coincidence :)

>>745185084
>Q: "What will happen to 1.4.4?"
>A: 1.4.4 mods and the 1.4.4 version of tModLoader will continue to exist and be available for players both during porting and after. It will be supported as a Legacy version like 1.3 and 1.4.3.

>Q: "When will 1.4.4 stop receiving updates?"
>A: 1.4.4 will continue to receive maintenance updates to ensure it stays functional. We do not have a date for when content updates will stop; in the near-term 1.4.4 will continue to receive regular updates until we are ready to 'Preview' the 1.4.5 beta build to modders.

jesus this sounds like a nightmare to maintain, idk why relogic would even have to change fundamental parts of their codebase to introduce some new toilets and meme weapons but here we are

>>745185260
It's a 2d pixel game. It's not like they're trying to mod Crysis or something insanely difficult.

>>745180979
Woah Terraria has a gameplay loop? Why would a game developer do that?

>>745185359
it's a 2d pixel game with devs being actively hostile to modders
red refactored the entire fluid code under the excuse of "we have an extra fluid slot left to use, we added the tranny juice, it was more work than expected tehehe" to have a reason to fuck over modders by completely overhauling fundamental game code AGAIN

>>745185442
>they did it intentionally
Or maybe the codebase is at its limit, and they have to change stuff because there's only so much you can do on a custom engine? If they hated modding, then why even make tmodloader official?

>>745184585
>I'm not even mad about the constant "final updates"
because that would be irrational, dumbass

>>745185262
>idk why relogic would even have to change fundamental parts of their codebase
because you're a retard

>>745185084
why dont they just use claude

>>745185793
funny how some games don't break like that, maybe these devs are the retarded ones if they can't code their shit properly

>>745185861
Let's clutter the game with AI slop. What could go wrong?

>>745186037
funny how you're that retarded

>>745164680
i got 4 minutes on it on steam. bought it in like 2016

>>745186042
nigga it's mostly just shuffling around already existing patches that have to be correctly placed in the right spot and migrated over
it's like the ONE thing LLM junk is good for

>>745185020
Bet those games have better software architecture

>>745186110
Exactly. The codebase of the game is built from a guy whose previous experience in coding was making Mario fangames.

>>745186060
yes anon, you're the giga smart one, of course it was totally necessary for them to rewrite the fluid system like this anon mentioned >>745185442 their engine is totally not some shitty spaghetti code that seems to need a bunch of rewrites and even more spaghetti at every new addition

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>>745164680
I want a sequel already.
I'm sick of the updates that only add sidegrades and nothing substantial.

>Survival / sandbox game gradually becomes less about survival / building as boss fights become the main focus
This has happened so many times now that it's nauseating. What was the last thing you were even encouraged to build in Terraria? The Old One's Army? Fucking please.

>>745186294
Terraria 2 was quietly canceled alongside Otherworld's much more vocal cancelation because Red realized no one's gonna buy it.

>>745186328
What did you want to happen after players finished exploring most of the map?

>>745186259
That doesn't mean they're being hostile to modders. It just means that the game is built on spaghetti code.

Might as well say that Valve is hostile to custom servers and modders too, because TF2 is essentially taped and glued together with hopes and dreams, and deleting a single png of a coconut from the game will hard crash it for no discernible reason.

>>745186401
I wanted more areas that were perilous to navigate, like the underground Desert. I never really understood the concept of 'forever worlds' when the premise is procedural generation. That and the danmaku autism feels so divorced from the actual building side of the game. I know it's a 2D plane with parallax and you can't have everything break blocks but it looks so fucking goofy when bosses magically phase through blocks.

>>745186790
you probably played too many mods, the only danmaku autism boss in vanilla is empress of light

>>745186918
Moon Lord's a bastard too, you basically NEED Rod of Discord or a cheese arena to be able to safety dodge his fuck you lasers.

>>745186259
you are dunning kruger in full force

>>745164680
the game is at its best when youre cave diving for chests and every piece of gear is useful
post hardmode its just beat the boss to craft their gear ad infinitum

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