Alexis Kennedy's new game demo is out. Are you ready to dive in again, cultist?
How much of a common knowledge is the occult supposed to be now? I am not expecting perfect balance in this kind of game, but in demo certain personalities (sorry, I am phone posting at work and don't remember the term used in game) are used much more often than others. I picked honour at the start and could barely act accordingly, while despair appears in like every other dialogue choice.
Will download and try it out tomorrowLoved book of hours, but only did one full proper playthrough of it. Still missing half the books being lawgged in my obsidian vault, but that's just not going to happen ever reallyWas filtered by cultist sim tho
>>745190016Gonna try a conjurer run next.
>>745193376Had to immediately remake the character because I didn't pump any of the crafting skills to 7 so I would have no way to get rid of traces.
Sorry, I don't feel like talking and bumping the second thread. Yesterday was enough for me for the time being. So I will become a winter chud and just watch this thread archive.
>>745190335Balance and the secret history's trilogy do not go in the same sentence
>>745190016Finished it once, going on a second playthrough.I have my worries, it's lacking in polish in a lot of areas, but it's got some solid bones to build upon. Kind of scared for the setting's future, over half the Hours I've encountered are uncounted. I get wanting to make some changes, but going so far might make it feel like it's parading the corpse of one of my favorite worlds around while ostensibly being something else. Birds stay winning, in any case.
How am I supposed to complete the saint's eyes quest? All of the item options except for the razor blade are greyed out and the razor blade option pissed her off.
>>745196134Granted this information came from a post in the last thread, but there won't really be a future for this series, Traveling at Night is the last game. Kennedy wants to move on to new projects and unless they ever do decide to go back and make the BoH painting DLC the future of the franchise is in the hands of modders and third party developers.
>>745197334I really hope that's just a "for the time being" thing and he's open to returning to the setting later.
>>745197398Same but I get wanting to move on, its been a while and not the most successful project.I look forward to whatever comes next that's for sure.
>Dollar is used as a talisman of protection and component for Bright Arts>Because it's president is symbol of authority and incorporation. LMAO. Imagine trying to summon Hint and ask him if he accepts dollars for the summoning.
>>745197334Yeah I kind of imagined so, a CRPG is a massive undertaking so it's likely he'd be burnt out on writing for the setting for a while after that. I hope they expand the 6th History license if he truly drops the universe though.
>>745197621>I hope they expand the 6th History licenseIt seems pretty lenient already, what more would you like for it?
>>745197923I don't think it allows for mods of the games to be sold as "expansions" that would add more content? Getting more art assets in there would also be a massive boon to the community. I'd play a Book of Hours in each of the libraries, desu.
>>745198027I guess that's a grey area but from what I remember the big restriction was that you need to actually create something yourself instead of just taking the art assets they allow you to use and sell them as they are, like printed cards or something. That and clearly mark it as the sixth History and thus unofficial. I'd assume making expansions to the existing games falls under that.
Does this mean that I will have a lose my most developed skill no matter what if amount of high tokens are simply depleted?
>>745198027It is an actually good question, like the other anon said it is not explicity mentioned as a restriction per se, but in any case, just to be sure, why not mail them and ask? I get the feeling they might answer. To be honest I too am intrigued about the license thing it is a legit cool thing to do and a very rare one in this day and age.
She's so perfect.
>>745190016What do /v/ think of the new lore?>The axis still lingers but everyone hate them now due to the escalation during the war>Lantern principles were split into two by the US and the USSR because they can't get along, becoming the two new principles, the Incorporate and the Gleam>Most of the Hours are gone (especially the Vagabond who was already confirmed from BoH)>Most of the Aviform hours are fine (with new Hour joining the group)>Everyone knows about the esoteric now but not much
>>745199287>Incorporate *Corona. My bad
>>745199287Vagabond is being a vagabond, she is just an Uncounted for now in her pilgrimage. Meanwhile Thunderskin is implied to be outright dead.
>>745199287I feel like it has potential for shaking things up but if it's true that this is the last game in the setting I hope the ending of TaN resolves the situation in an interesting way.
>>745199083Because I would feel bad for taking valuable time out of their day to ask about a license I will most likely never use because I am too lazy and unfocused to create such a mod. But I'm interested in the answer too.
>>745199497RIP to a real one>Dance sadly
>>745199287Slightly worried that Corona and Gleam aren't considered Principles in their own right. I hope we see a few Hours come back through the course of the game so the past lore isn't made functionally irrelevant.Also, crackpot theory, but Nina might've caused the War in the Sun
>>745199287>with new Hour joining the groupWho's that?
>>745199783New Birb. Currently unknown .
I downloaded the demo and created a character, but now I'm debating whether I should even actually play it. The game's a day 1 purchase no matter what, so I don't know if it's worth spoiling myself on the beginning and then having to wait who knows how long anyway for the real thing.Has there been any kind of indication on how close it is to release?
>>745199287Kinda hard to hide the esoteric with massive fuck off holes in the world lmaoI thought they were in his mind at first but nah just big holes
>>745197334The anon that posted about that in the last thread here. I felt bad about not sourcing my info so I did some searching. The source is from an ama on Reddit from arabelladusk , the other person on Weather Factory. The exact quote >Q:After the third game, do you think you’ll do more in this world. it’s extremely rich.(And thanks for both, but especially Cultist - it proved a healthier distraction through Covid than alcohol would have . Despite the cannibalism )>A: Despite being quite mean in places, Cultist seems to have gotten a good number of people through dark times!The Secret Histories are really rich, but we've been working in them for years now - I think this will be the last game we make in it. We don't want it to get stale, and we have lots of other ideas for different worlds - they deserve a shot at the big time, too!
Demo was cool. I only played a little of Cultist Simulator. Hoping I can enjoy this without needing to play all the others.
>>745200196Honestly playing BoH is more recommended than playing Cult Sim, because there are many callbacks to Hush House
>>745200196You'll probably manage with the tooltips, but playing the other games is definitely going to make the experience richer and help you understand the setting even more and what has happened to it.
So this fat bastard is definitely Hokobald, right?
>>745200104The lady in the park that wants you to curse the barroness says there are no holes.I think normies may not be seeing the same things as you.
>>745200729She's also clearly crazy, keeps talking about several different people to you and gets mad when you correct her. She also asks you to find her husband and I think it was mentioned that he's dead already, but I'm not 100% sure.
>>745200729The US and the USSR are straight up conducting magic in broad daylight. Though there are still people who tried to pretend nothing happened. From one of AK Reddit rambling >Now this is only half the story. The Incorporates and the Ministries are doing things that seem miraculous in a repeatable and provable way. Something is going on. But most of the world in 1948 believed in God - [citation needed] but you see my point. Something happened with the War in the Sun. Was it weapons manufactured by the Enemy that tore up the world? Was it gods no-one believed in? obviously not, don't be superstitious. Why are there bodies washed up on the beaches of southern England, bodies of people that never existed? How do you know they never existed? maybe the records were destroyed. Maybe the cities of the Change were just under-reported.People believes magic is technology and it might just be.
>>745200990It's so funny how Nazi Germany is simply "The Enemy".
>>745201118They permanently fucked up the sun
>>745190016buy an ad
>>745201218>video game discussion on /v/?>not on MY watch!
>>745201218a gacha thread died for this video game thread with genuine discussion...
>>745201768A twitter screenshot thread just died and you're laughing?!
>>745190016I only played cult sim.How many other games did they make?Are they all connected?Are they all good?
>>745190335>How much of a common knowledge is the occult supposed to be now?The doctor at the sanitarium is a Know. On the other hand, we know from the dream that the White Door of the Mansus is barred.I think a lot more of the common people have a basic knowledge of the occult, but deeper secrets are much more difficult to acquire.
>>745190335The same level of knowledge that today pleb has on ancient cultures, latin, sanskrit etc
>>745200382>>745200384I might give them another try at some point depending on how long this takes to come out. The tooltips did intrigue me.
>>7452018321 more.Same setting, same lore, same card-juggling. Next game is a CRPG however.Yes.
>>745201832Book of Hours is the only full game you're missing for now, and yeah it's very connected. I didn't like it as much as CS but it's still pretty good.Depending on when you played CS you also might not have played the Exile DLC, which is almost like a mini-sequel in its own right as it has its own very different type of gameplay from standard CS.
>>745202368They also made a short TTRPG. And also that time they ran a hotel roleplay game in Wales or some shit.
i should do a new run in BoHwhich background should i go for? ive already done cartographer
>>745202656Archaeologist
>>745202656For me, it's the executioner.
>>745198939Yeah, treat it like Buckshot Roulette. Count the results you've already used and haven't used yet. When you're about to do a roll, decide whether you have a good chance of picking a good result. Sovereign Syndicate and a lot of TTRPG systems do the same thing, but they use a deck of cards instead.
Second playthrough done and still couldn't finish the opening the saint's eyes quest. Anyone been able to do it? I wonder what skills/items you need for it, I even reserved the uzult for it but still had 0% chance.
>>745203196Always bet on Bosk
>>745202656Revolutionary, all my homies hate the Calyptra
>>745203196I did itMake yellow cost 5 item
>>745203258Well no wonder, neither of my runs had anything in Bosk kek.
>>745190016I don't know who that is but I got an email about it because apparently I had this in my wishlistI made a character
>>745204827Wait skimming this thread is this part of a larger series? Maybe I should play those firstI guess this is just a demo, I'll play this demo and then if I like it enough I'll go play the other games
>>745204871You'll probably feel pretty lost at first but make sure you read all the tooltips and you'll get an idea whether you like the setting and style or not. Cultist Simulator is more punishing, Book of Hours is more relaxed and atmospheric, if you want to look into the other games.
>>745205358Cultist simulator is sort of like Sultans game rightand yeah i'm glad I decided to poke around menus before starting the game in earnest
>>745196134>Kind of scared for the setting's futureThey are not touching it again in a very long time, they probably are tired of it and want to do something different now. On the other hand they licensed the IP under oddly reasonable terms (for free if you don't make a lot of bank plus you make your own content).
the US and USSR leaders are an edge dyad using the cold war over coronoa/gleam to create the greatest corrivality in histories so that they can ascend to become now latern/edge hours.
>>745201832Book of hours has the same card fuckery as cultist sim, except it is a rather relaxed and laid back game, you are serving wine to weird guests instead of stuffing people in cupboards this time. Lore is the same, and writing just as scattered and good as in CS. Can't say it is for everyone, but I really liked it.
>>745205528Both CS and BoH use cards for actions and to represent things like skills and memories etc, but CS is more abstract and takes place on a single game board while BoH has you slowly renovate a massive house and opening its rooms again.
>>745205626I believe it.
>>745205984I see
>new king was supposed to be some giga powerful name that was the secret child of the sun-in-splendor and forge of days, THE most powerful hours>dies like a bitch in france to some german fungus
>Tooltip information about the Ministries always mention the Stars, but never have tooltip about them.Ominous
>>745206474New King simply can't be a child of Forge and Sun-in-Splendour
>>745206793It's a child of their Name, no?
>>745206793>>745206958How would one in either case avoid getting giga crime of the sky'd?
>>745206793I can't remember if it was EXACTLY their child, but 100% their offspring>Apocryphal chapters foretell the means by which the Sun-in-Splendour and the Forge might circumvent the impossibility of their joining, through proxies that are in some sense themselves>Here in a vessel shaped by fire and fate, George Collers confined a flame in human flesh, a blazing shadow of a blazing future, a Name of greed and time. Greene called it 'the Sun's bastard grandchild.' Van Lauren warned of 'the Second Dawn's first spark'. But Collers spoke of it reverently: as 'the Leashed Flame's true heir'.>The royalty of England, according to Willis-Ford, became the Sovereigns of the Leashed Flame, destroying or transforming their enemies, conquering Europe, establishing grand cathedrals to St Spark. The alliance with the Forge begins to take its toll. At last, the Bronze King undergoes his 'Great Misfortune' and 'Great Debasement', and is afterwards known as the Copper King. His attempt to cheat the Forge ends badly, the Leashed Flame is released, and the King's heirs are merely mortal sovereigns.
Is Book of Hours similar to Lobcorp or something?Struggling to understand what the gameplay is supposed to be from the screenshots
>>745205626That was sort of my guess as well, although I believed it's more of a "fuck the lantern, we'll pretend as long as we need but we're all about that edge baby" situation
>>745207601>what the gameplay is supposed to beChilling the game
>>745207601Not really noIn cultsim you have a similar (but not the same) kind of urgency to Lobcorp because the timer is always going. You can die in many ways so it's all about being prepared for a lot of situations, especially once you start making moves in the world (they can make staying alive harder, especially for the apostle legacies).Book of Hours is more of a relaxed experience that is about making the best out of your current set of skills without worrying about a constant pressure. You explore and renovate a HUGE library, find and decipher new books, handle guests and improve your knowledge and skills so you can go even further, until you find something major to do. That said, time is always moving forward, but at worse that's a minor setback
>>745207601It's a pretty basic game mechanically. You have a hand of cards, all these cards have attributes and most expire at the end of the day. The game is about trading cards for stronger cards to accomplish whatever your goal is. Like say you need Lantern 8 attribute to dust out an old tower so you:>Go to the church and pay the Reverend six pence to have him help you out, he has 2 lantern>Give him a cup of tea, The specific tea chosen is a consumable item with 2 lantern, this to give him 4>Chat to him about the sunny day, this consumes the sunny day card to give him six>Help him out with the dusting using your own attribute Phost, which has 2 lantern, giving him 8The room is now dusted, you have a new area to play with, it has new books to read and organize, and maybe something special like a crafting station for combining consumable cards into better cards that don't expire on use, or trading temporary consumables for a permanent one.BoH is just learning lore and exploring the world as you chip away at gradual barriers with no real fail state. Cultist Simulator uses the same system but gives you half a dozen plates to spin or else you die.
>>745206958Immortals can't have children at all, Crime of the Sky and stuff>>745207302Hovewer, the War of the Roads makes everyone in Leashed Flame and their successor Noble Endeavour mortals again, so theoretically they can't commit the crime. New King wasn't also. So to my understanding they could produce children again, which results in New King down the line. He might be Wickel, the Name of Chandler, as you said the "bastard son of Sun" which would make sense, because New King does many stuff with Chandler. Hovewer he is also imprisoned in the Hush House for a long time. It would be quite farcical if more or less a no name in in the court business comes out of nowhere and just becomes a New King
>>745195276I find it extremely odd that a) All the crafting recipes are shown from the start and b) There are only about two dozen items.
>>745205626I don't know about that but I definitely expect North/South France leaders to have corrivalry shenanigans.
>>745208437We do know that the New King is Henry IX of the Plantagenet line, so he is a direct descendant of the Sovereign of the Leashed Flame. He was appointed after the mysterious death of George V as well as most of his family, For the first couple years he just acted as a figurehead and did whatever parliament wanted while staying out of the way. Then Wickel broke out of Hush House and made a pact with him. He then declared himself an absolute monarch and took over the country so completely that his ascension was called The Restoration.
>>745190016Are your options in antibes oddly narrow, or is it just my spencer is a sperg so nobody wanted to talk to him?You can open the saint's eyes, and it does nothing as far as I can tell. (5 xp is basically nothing, that's one passed and one failed check)You can sell out everything not kosher to the milicia dickhead for cash. You can poison (or not) someone for cash. You can butter up the group or the proprietess to tell you about Nina's whereabouts.But the conversation trees felt pretty barren. The sanitarium NPCs basically don't say anything. Vincent just ups and joins you out of the blue like he's fucking cuno trying to flee it. I don't know, it felt oddly not generous in actual world interactions compared to the quadruple-nested footnotes.I miss the old artstyle for a number of things.
>>745209463I figured that it's just a matter of it being the starting/tutorial zone where the plot kicks off.
>>745208405Ty for the detailed explanation, that sounds ok as a way to chill out, really depends on how engaging the lore is I guess.
Man I feel kinda bad about scamming the granny in the park. First I took her money for a bullshit curse and even told the target about it and then I promised her I'd find her husband for 10K frogdollars despite knowing he's been shot. I wonder how that quest concludes in the full game and whether she'll actually pay the insane sum.
>>745209463Never noticed it's a person sitting up in bed
>>745210303To be honest, husband being shot doesn't mean he isn't walking in wake world or Mansus.So you can potentially find him (you better not)
>>745197309My exorcist started with an item that did the jobMaybe you could also use the item you get from opening the the doctor's little bird box, but I didn't try so I don't know
I want to learn more about the lore of CS and BoH. If I replayed those games, took my time and read every single piece of text presented to me, would I be able to pick up the general gist of it, or is the lore a community effort held together by theories?Basically, I'm wondering if i can learn the lore without watching a youtube video on it.
>>745210952I got it with a wakeful eye (the golden dollar bill thing). Also, a witch's knot apparently works too, assuming these two were referring to items that could solve it. The "something holy" talks about the wakeful eye.
sex
>>745211470With Bessy.
>>745211470Sorry, the grail is missing, so no more sex until found
>>745211338You'll definitely get the gist of it. A more in depth understand would require multiple playthroughs, not to mention the fact that plenty of things aren't fully explained.
can you play as 200iq occultist who dabs on all the normies in this game?
>>745211338The hardest part is figuring out when exactly all the different events and shit took place, but you'll be able to figure out the cosmology and the important happenings I'd say. Then there's always the secret histories wiki where you can read about things you found interesting on your own time, it's about the setting itself instead of game mechanics.
>>745211470with worms
>>745190016What’s the 12000 ft overview of the lore? What’s different about this world compared to our timeline?
>>745211338You will definitely figure out important cosmology stuff and characters, although different doors and locations in Mansus still make me double check them. Than you will have to just understand major events like Intercalate and Lithomachy. And that's basically it, you can start argue about whether or not Coseley is a faggot and how to have sex with Teresa to cuck Illopoly.
>>745211338All you have to understand is that all Grailfaggots are faggots
>>745211338>If I replayed those games, took my time and read every single piece of text presented to meThat's exactly the best way to learn the lore. Cultist Simulator especially shines a journey of discovery, both of the lore and of the game systems themselves, you'd be severely missing out by wiki diving instead of exploring it organically. BOH on the other hand almost is like a playable wiki anyway, the gameplay is literally unlocking and reading lore books.Practically speaking, the wiki basically is just a collection of all the books and lore snippets, and where it goes beyond that into theories there's no guarantees they're correct and your own interpretation from the games would be just as valid.
>>745212425the grail is like the only humanity-aligned hour. all the other hours are either eternityfags or neutral, meanwhile the grail actively tries to subvert the forge and sun in support of history.
>>745212638"Oh man, I sure love all this sex and humanity" says anon as the qt grail cultist bites his dick off and eats it.
>>745211338Basically it's just a bunch of faggots larping as if they know anything about reality and stuff
Don't mind me, just getting lost in Rodia's bush.
>>745212757h-hotanother win for the grail
Immortals can have children just fine. The only thing the Crime of the Sky does is giving them insatiable urge to eat their child. It's a conspiracy theory in verse that the Sun and the Forge really wants to have a child so they used their Name to do the deed in their stead, and when the child was born, they would used their authority to forcefully control the Name so they can't eat>>745212638Prot-history =/= pro humanity. She partly wants the Cross to come back so she can eat them again. The Cross is no friend to human. The whole Eternity Vs History is more order Vs freedom. With Eternity everything is stable and orderly but extremely restrained because you would live in a predetermined universe. History just means everything can be true and nothing is stable. It also means a bunch of old stuffs can come back which might be good or bad depending on how you like it.
Would you recommend these games to me knowing I'm am add retard and I've never played any of them before?
>>745213862There are two possible outcomes. Either you get bored in 5 minutes or you'll get super autistically into it and for once manage to focus and study something deeper.
>>745212264>there's a secret world in dreams where secret gods reside>humanity entered it at some point>this is generally understood to have been a bad move and has left a lot of people unhappy>now half of the gods are dead after a war both in Europe and the dreamSpencer was "away" (read: didn't exist) for most of that war though, so he'll need some catching up to speed.
>>745213862no. I like the games but I would never recommend them to anyone
>>745213576>Sun and the Forge really wants to have a child so they used their Name to do the deed in their steadIf that was true Forge wouldn't kill Sun.
>>745213862What >>745214027 said. I can never focus on anything and am an ADD retard, but every year or so I spend about 3 weeks replaying BoH all day while heavily intoxicated. It's worth a shot in any case.
So what's the explanation for Spencer being able to casually open every lock and barrier?
>>745214118I have a friend who got like 50 hours in before giving upI still see him play from time to time but I had to accept that his autism was just not strong enough
>>745214489He was in Ys/House of Moon/City Unbuild/Nowhere/Out of Bounds while in Rowenarium.
>>745214489>travelled to ys despite it not existing>never passed through the stag door, but is still basically a know with how much info and exposure to the occult he's hadspencer is primed to become a knock long under... uh... vagabond? beachcomber?
>>745214137The Name thing really happened. It's just that their desire made them want to do the real thing next after using proxy
>>745215081>spencer is primed to become a knock longThat would be a great ending honestly.
>>745214046>>there's a secret world in dreams where secret gods reside>>humanity entered it at some point>>this is generally understood to have been a bad move and has left a lot of people unhappyThe Cross and their Hours have been ruling the world. It was the only choice for human. A bunch of Hours that exist nowadays rose up from human origin during the struggle to strike down the Gods from Stone like the Colonel. >Forge rebels against Flint>Watchman Vs Egg >Grail Vs Tide>Colonel Vs Seven coiled>Moth Vs WheelI have no idea why people believe the Cross Hours are good for humanity when it was human ancestors who did everything to keep them away
>>745215081Honestly make him Long/Name under a future Hour or a Nowhere hour like Chandler or Witness
>>745215348>>745215081>>745215631>becoming a long of russian gommies
>>745190016I despise the UI. There's just too much shit going on. Also the fact that you can't fastclick through people's conversations.
>>745216773>Also the fact that you can't fastclick through people's conversations.They'd probably implement that if you threw them a suggestion in the feedback system.
>>745201832BoH is fantasticI'm still unsure about this game. Like I'll 100% buy it because I like everything AK did, but I dunno if I'll really get into it, the UI is just so shit.
>>745216906Good thinking.
>>745217086If you do it, make sure to mention that the fastclick should only advance the text and not automatically pick any of the options when you have to choose how to proceed though. Nothing more annoying than breezing through dialogue and then accidentally picking something that wasn't what you wanted.
>BOHNot vidya
>>745210303I don't think I could find a way to ask people about the husband if you don't accept the quest even though I'm pretty sure she tells you as much details with or without.
>>745217985If you tell the curse target about her she'll tell you about her and mention her husband. Accepting the quest to look for him comes after you've dealt with the curse quest in a way that satisfies her.
>>745216906I think it's more that the UI is generally really fucking raw right now. It's just oddly unresponsive and jerky and I'd be really surprised it didn't get an overhaul by launch.Ditto for Spencer's running animation and how his coat flaps. I think both the current UI and his run animation were some of the first things to get set up to start testing them, and they added increasing amount of stuff as they went, and they'll do a second pass on them now that they're more comfortable with their tools so they don't have to redo it every three months.
>>745218186Maybe I didn't find the right way. I lied to the park granny and she offered to hire me again, I said no, and afterwards even though she said she'd be there if I changed my mind I don't think I could either accept it or inquire about the husband.
>>745218525What I did was >accept the curse quest>go to the cafe and start chatting>talk to the curse target and mention park granny>do whatever you want with the curse, either do it or decide to lie to the granny>go back to granny and say it's done>she's happy and then asks you to find her husband
>>745218525>>745218885Also I refused the husband quest at first but when she pleaded with me I asked how much she's willing to pay and got to accept it that way. Dunno if it matters that I didn't exit the dialogue.
>need 50 xp for a 4->5 level up>need 280 xp for 0->7 skillThat sounds expensive.>3 trouble is an instant -3 on skill checks, 10 is game overJesus, dread comes out like crazy if you just fail a couple of checks, and lots of crafts say they output dread/fascination on top of the item
>>745213862BoH is the most accessible since there's no fail state and it's just really comfy to collect and catalog books and stuff. Even if you don't know what the fuck is going on. I'm also a retard and have read and cataloged tons of the books and I barely understand like 10% of it. But I still had fun with it!
Rate my buildLove me birdsongLove me moth n bein all pretentiousSimple as
>>745197528>President BarkleyShut up and jam!
>>745215527It was a joke, anon. The Gods-from-Stone are no better than the Gods-from-Light or flesh, of course.
Sex with bookstore cutieFirst impressions>like the music and atmosphere>art is... art. Very much in line with the other games, but it does look weird to walk around and stuff>never played a disco-like before so the gameplay is novel to me. I particularly enjoyed the first meeting where I flirted with andree. We basically were on the verge of consensual handholding, nbd>seemed to be a good amount of variety in how you can go about it. Talking to andree, buying drinks for the drunks, I'm assuming that cursing that one homewrecker would have lead you to the sanatorium also, idkI decided to stay there for now but I don't particularly like or trust the doctor. He altered the terms of our deal after I opened that silly box, which was quite rude of himNina's pussy better be worth all this time spent
>>745219783>Nina'sNEVER trust a woman.
>>745197334NahThey'll always returnWorlds are never done
>>745199193>chew with your mouth closed you fat bitch>bessy disapproves (-2)
>>745219494I'd put hushery to at least 5, otherwise you won't be doing much crafting in the scope of the demo. You basically use the arts that were in the tree of wisdoms for crafting, the "wordly arts" are for different stuff.
>>745199287I never knew what the fuck was going on anywaysJust over here birdsonging and dreaming of wolves and shitMakin music and whatnotMaybe a little ithastry maybe a little forge for flairDon't know what hours are lolJust know i like pretty sounding music and pretty paintings ye
>>745219747>Balling at Night
>>745220063Wtf don't be rude.
>>745220121Im already in the game I'm just gonna let it rideI've crafted like 2 things so far and dunno what to even do with emFirst play through are always for not knowing what the fuck is going on lol
>>745220679Based attitude desu.
>>745220679You don't really need any crafting in the demo in any case. I expect you'll also get handed key items in the game for people who didn't level wisdoms, even though you might not be able to do as many things as others.
>>745220883You don't NEED crafting, but getting rid of troubles and making magical items can be useful.
>>745220771When I first played BoH I was lost the entire playthrough and eventually decided to end it with the one ending that's the most vague, the one they said is the "good" one where you dont write a new history or whatever and just continue being a normal librarian. Then, after having some knowledge I went back in immediately with an actual plan and did a full birdsong playthrough. I've forgotten exactly what I did and what ending I got, but I remember it was alot of fun. I remember it was quite difficult to place all of the ____ stories in the exact birdsong line, but that's what I wanted to do and achieved before getting the ending. I should probably do another playthrough at some point. I wanted to do one focusing on forge and ithastry, and and ending with making the bells or whatever idk I cant keep track of all this shit
>>745221120If you haven't played the DLC yet then that's one good reason to do a new playthrough.
>>745220883What I like about these games, particularly BoH is that you can muddle your way through without really knowing much or engaging with any deeper systems, but once you understand what youre doing you can do things with a huge amount of efficiency and unlock things you wouldn't have expected. I suppose this game will be much more like that. You can probably play through the entire game without crafting a single thing, but you wont experience most of what it has to offer. I expect that if you play it while taking full advantage of thse systems you'll find more and more paths to take, secrets, probably even entire storylines. Discovery is part of the gameplay
BoH's biggest problem is many upgrade stations you might need is locked behind later floors. Upgrading via Skolekosophy or Bosk is pain in the ass.
>>745221262Yeah I have seen that you can now host guests properly and have meals with them and stuff, and I think host more of them at a time? I remember that was one of my biggest gripes was that the guest system felt underwhelming and that you couldn't really do much with them, so I'm definitely going to go back to it at some point. Just havent had the desire to lately. Maybe after this demo, who knowsI assume they're full force working on TaN and wont be updating BoH anytime soon? I read another post about a possible paintings dlc?
>>745221553>I assume they're full force working on TaN and wont be updating BoH anytime soon? Yeah definitely for the time being.>I read another post about a possible paintings dlc?Idk how confirmed it was or if it was just something the devs mentioned as a possibility.
>>745221469This, Archaeologist is pain in the ass.
>>745221469My issue with them is that alot of them felt like the same stations. Maybe I wasn't discerning enough, but it seemed to me like there were a ton of those sky and lantern ones and barely any for moth, for instance. Those might be the wrong ones naming, but I remember it felt a bit unbalanced in terms of your options
Boo!
>>745221725Moth is immediately there at the barber chair but it's easy to miss it. I didn't even realize the chicken, vegetables and beehives were interactible in my first playthrough.
>>745221954Well I don't mean that there's nothing and I don't even mean that you cant get all of them early. I mean after I 'lawg'd everything in obsidian and marked all of the crafting stations, it felt like there were a million blues and yellows while other aspects or what have you were much more limited in their options. I could be wrong, it could be that those fewer crafting places still ended up having the same amount of options overall, idk, I'm not an expert on the game by any means
Gotta love pretty much everything this guy and his wife makes/has made. Even better, seems he's keeping the >Linux version>buy it in the first week/month, and you get the Eternal Version that all the DLC is free for you, Enjoy!
Are Kennedy and chinks still on bad terms?
>>745222193I didn't even realize that you get the prepetual edition if you buy it early, I just bought shortly after it came out because of the shilling on here and was pleasantly surprised
>>745222193I actually pirated BoH at first and then went and bought it mid-playthrough to start over because for once the developer is just a genuinely great guy and the game is well worth it.
>>745222334The chin*se are on bad terms with literally everyone, my traveler
It's like a hotel at Captain Teebs'.
>>745222406Well maybe everyone should think twice about hurting the feelings of the entire chinese people, ever thought about that?
>>745200102It's a long ways yet I'm afraid. Their approach to development means they like to get player feedback at every stage of the process. I think they mentioned having the foundation done but only like a 20th of the actual content in the game. That said they run a pretty tight ship so I don't think there much chance of development hell.
Anyone got yourself arrested because of trace overload yet?
>>745201832>Cultist SimulatorIf you don't mind reading and like the occult, this is probably the best recent example of ludonarrative consonance in gaming. That is to say, the themes and gameplay are linked (you usually hear about ludonarrative dissonance where like.. Lara Croft cries after being threatened by one guy in a cinematic as she's just a young girl, but in game she's murderlizing a whole host of mercs with a bow and arrow etc) . When you start playing CS you have little idea how anything works and gradually through time, fuckups, and progression get to learn more and more, which parallels the initiation into occult mysticism of a hidden world (they call it "secret histories" in this setting)>Book of Hours More graphical, but still with a lot of reading. You're also managing a Library of sorts so there's other mechanics more expanded than 'just' the card stuff of Cultist Simulator, but CS is great in and of itself, this is built upon . Definitely worthwhile >Traveling At NightThe new thing that's not released yet, demo just showed up. This one is more of a CRPG instead and looks promising >The Lady Afterward Technically released but not a PC game, though you can get a copy of the digital version as a DLC for Cultist Simulator or you can buy a deluxe edition with physical stuff for..what used to be a lot of money, not sure if still available. Takes place in the same Secret Histories setting, but this is a tabletop RPG . Havennt played myself but I hear its well done. I think some autist ported it into Tabletop Simulator too as a mod?--Those are the major games of this series, but they've also worked on other games that are in other settings like >Fallen LondonBrowser based, narrative driven , one of the early titles from the dev>Sunless Sea Excellent and highly recommended, mixes the writing style with an exploration heavy, combat capable adventure.>Sunless Skies Spiritual successor to above etc
so how does the """true""" ending tie into traveling at night? is WW2 and the war in the mansus the coming winter that was theorized?
How is sunless seas? I've heard the writing is better than sunless skies but the gameplay is weaker. It was before kennedy got ousted from the company, correct?I liked skies but did not finish a full playthrough. I liked the setting and atmosphere most of all. The writing was quite woke and faggy, but that didn't bother me at the time I played it as much as it would nowadays. I didn't particularly care for the concept of dying and leaving your stuff to your next heir, which meant I ended up playing it with saves and stuff, which meant by the end of my playing I was savescumming and forcing roll checks. I stopped after having barely survived the blue city or whatever that place was called. I went through and did whatever quest there and by the time I was done (after several save scums) I came back out with my train beat to shit and my crew starving and on the verge of going crazy. It was basically exactly how the game began, so I decided to just leave it there. Dunno if Id ever go back to it. Are there any other similar games that gave this kind of setting? I'm a sucker for these esoteric and slightly lovecraftian vibes one of my own world building projects is very much in the same vein as these games. I even have a concept for a game similar to book of hours about collecting books, art, music, etc. From various different worlds and cataloging them in a grand lighthouse. It would also be a management and merchant type game where you can make copies, translations, annotated editions, etc. And trade them with visitors, let patrons borrow them, send your workers out in s a search of new books and stuff. It would be cool i hope
>>745222767You can max out your Trace right away by fumbling the conversation with the cop but as far as I can tell getting arrested doesn't do anything and you get an inexplicable jail-out-of-free card and can just walk out of your cell. Probably not implemented yet.
>>745222347Yeah, its a nice bonus. I've bought early to support them and for that reason. >>745222379Good on ya, Anon. Its nice to do so to support them as they seem to make a good product , know they're working with a niche community, and support it well. Shit I just booted up the Traveling at Night Demo and they even have a well labeled large box that explains 3 choices >Can we collect data on the choices you make?>Choose No (or DONT ANSWER AT ALL, meaning its a true opt in) and we won't collect any data>Choose Yes, we'll use pseudoanonymized data on choices to improve the game >Choose Yes, Link, we'll align any bug reports w/email you submit alongside your choices in game Easy to understand, good choices for a demo, upfront about what exactly is gathered etc.
>>745222982>Husher casually vagueposts and disappears. Based
>>745223180They do a joker on you
release when? early next year?
>>745223385>GET HIS SUN-IN-RAGS OFF
>>745223532Kek
>>745212952Can you even do anything in the sanitarium? I don't think she really had anything to say to me. Maybe if I knew some bosk.
>>745224038The Sanitarium's very bare bones aside from figuring out where Nina went.
>>745212952Nice sweatervest FAGGuess we know YOUR guy knows Zest
>>745224340You're just jelly because you know the bitches can't resist my big bosk cock.
>>745223430Probably not until (late) 2028 at the earliest by the look of things and the scale that's been announced.
>my heart tells me i must find ninners
my concern is that it's going to be too linear, and you simply move from one designated city to the next. demo was alright but if each location is essentially that, I'm gonna be kinda disappointed.
>>745225619As it is now it kinda is. Your main gameplay cycle will probably be doing shit and move to another city when too many traces. Basically Exile gameplay but you always start at 1 specific point
>>745223145Atmosphere of Seas is amazing and the writing is better than Skies, since skies is after AK left (he wasnt ousted, the bad blood came later, he got tired of managing and wanted to be in the trenches on his own projects again). That said, it's punishing and grindy. I recommend playing it until you get extremely annoyed however long that might take, then edit your save file to max out stats and money to see the endgame content. Great soundtrack too.
>>745225237>he doesn't have a muse
>>745225619It doesn't sound like it's going to be linear considering you're encouraged to move around a lot because of Traces. If that map is anything to go by, the full game is probably still years out.
>>745225901I'd be pretty disappointed if that's all there is to Antibes considering the sanitarium has nothing to do and the park quest wants you to come back. So I expect it's not "never return" like the exile, but if it's 500 francs equivalent each time to move to the nearest node, backtracking is gonna be impossibly pricy.
>invent a whole eso world >make it vague as fuck deliberately ugh, what's this phenomenon called again?
>>745226939Being dangerously based.
>>745226939Filtering plebs
>>745226725Nah, you can actually come back. It even talks about how you can manage traces by moving out UNLESS you have the same route over and over again.
>game is called traveling at night>you can travel during the daySHIT game design. Talk about cognoludonarrativedissonance
>>745222586>Captain Teebs'Who's he?
so is there one mansus and 5 histories, or does each timeline have their own mansus? if the hours debate and weave history, that means there's probably only one mansus, meaning all hours fucking dying or being uncounted in our history fucked everything up for the other 4 histories as well.
>>745228032AFAIK 1 mansus and 5 Histories. Every time something very fucked up happens in a History(like worms) they do a reset.
>>745228512Wouldn't use reset as a point, since second is described as "true one". Plus it's known how Hooded Princes escape 5th History, and if there is only 5 (at least yet), means something like reset doesn't work.
>>745190016Any favourite quotes from the games? Starting out with the classic>The Wood grows around the walls of the Mansus. As any student of Histories knows, the Mansus has no walls.
>>745229123I guess it's less of a reset and more of a, fuck it lets start anew. The other Histories still exist.>>745229151>Light LEAKS through the CRACKS. My mind is BRIGHTER than it EVER was. THE HIGHER I RISE THE MORE I SEE.
Strange that Sixth History license includes artwork of most characters including exile but not summons.
>>745229151I really like Exile locations.>Deep in the taiga forests of Siberia, a hunting lodge decays gracefully into an ice-blue lake - a lake, it's said, that a falling moon-fragment scarred from the forest.
>>745199287>Everyone knows about the esoteric now but not muchI really, really hate this. What was great about CS was the feeling you are part of le secret club you have to hide from the outer world for various reasons. BoH lacked this in a way but TaN just outright says fuck this shit and suddenly it's like any other fantasy RPG with magic being present and part of daily routine.Awful decision. Absolutely awful. I might not even give the game a try.
>>745230609Suppression Bureau...
THE SUN IS FINE.DO NOT.ASK ABOUT THE SUN.
>>745230973How is the sun doing?
>>745230672Yeah. Secrer police to find and fight occultists. What of it?
>>745199287Eeeh, not sold currently. This barely feels secret histories at all. Aspects are all but gone, crafting system is woefully undernourished currently, especially considering you'll only access a fraction of it per playthrough, too many hours are straight up gone with no replacement for belief, and spencer hasn't proved interesting at all so far.
>>745230609I'll definitely get the game, but I kind of agree. It's also why I approve of their decision to move on from Secret Histories after this last game. Even if the plot hadn't advanced to this point, we the players just know way too much to get that feeling of exploring truly obscure lore and figuring out the rules of the world now.
>>745230609BoH still had this, you were essentially a sanctioned academic of this secret world. What's happening in Travelling doesn't seem unprecedented in the Histories really, things get out of control and become more overt, like with the Intercalate or War of the Roads (to say nothing of some BoH endings), and when the Hours get a handle on things again, secrecy is restored through divine fiat/mortal means. And AK mentioned that at the time of the game things are very confused and unsure, like with the solar church not everyone understands the actual reasons behind things. I bet one of the endings will involve you repairing and resecrefying all the spooky shit, with some appropriately bittersweet consequences.
>>745232081Plus as >>745232069said, I think with longtime players you need to do something with it rather than let it get stuck in perma-setting hell. I do know what you mean though, it's hard to recapture that initial magic.
>>745230609You already had Exile showing that the world ain't normal.
Haha yesHours and mansusI totally know what all of these are and am able to easily follow along with the lore of this worldHow do you do, fellow boskbros?>implying a grailfag would really>birdchads stay winning>so how about that third history, huh? That was a crazy oneI am just like you all here in this thread enjoying the game[10/100] charm/sophistication - try to blend in with the other anons
>>745230609paris got WORM'D in 1776 and the church of the unconquered sun is the main religion in europe, the occult has always been part of the mundane world. this time shit has gotten so bad it's gonna be a while (if ever) for things to go back to normal, but the average person also still doesn't know shit about the occult despite now being aware of it due to the giant holes in reality and magic is still rare and guarded. despite the sanitarium being a place for freaks and weirdos, you can talk to the director about the painting of the mansus and how it's still a very dangerous thing to be displaying something like that openly. I don't like the change but I don't dislike it either, depends on how the story progresses.
>>745232346I don't recall that desu.
>>745232462Sharp Stair, NOW
>>745232895Sex with maids in mirror
>>745232240>>745232546Idk to me it feels like if some show changed from X-files to Star Trek betwees seasons.I'm pretty sure AK is competnet enough to make it interesting in its own way but the initial awe that drew me to the CS is simply not there.Take paintings as an example. It was so cool to paint blurry visions from Mansus and than sell it to normies as some crazy avatgarde art. But at the same time, sometimes sombody saw it and understood what's actually happening.It's not the same anymore.AK simply told us too much. Things that are suggested but left for immagination have much more power and occupy your toughts longer time than perfect explanations.And there are plenty of games with weird magical elements but there are next to no games about secret occult societies.
>>745233425That's not on the shift of atmosphere and more on the game. You start being able to see every craft instead of them being something you need to learn despite being hollowed out. That's weird. You can talk to NPCs like the Scars in reality are weird, but the game makes no comment of you using them to craft right away. You're told this is a CRPG but NPCs barely have any dialogue. That's weird.
>>745233425I just don't think you could do CS twice which is why it's probably right to move on to a new setting after this. Granted I would like to see the BoH painting expansions happen.Also on the note of the paintings, early in the demo Spenser can find a copy of a play he wrote in the 20s which is basically what you're describing but with theatre, so those elements will still be there.
>>745233425I disagree with this take. There's a lot of parts of mystery left in the setting. To list a few: Janus, The Chandler, the hidden Hours (Giribago, Snow, Rising Spider), the House of the Moon, The Witness, Caer Ys...There's a lot of places for the setting to go, even post War in the Sun, with the player's choices influencing which Hours are restored and which stay Uncounted. You can do a FUCKTON with this setting and still make it mysterious, because in addition to previously established unclear areas, the wake and the Mansus are always changing.
Is there a single person ITT that hasn't played it?I wishlisted it because it looks like Disco Elysium.
>>745235748Multiple people have said they wishlisted the game without having played any other WF game. Which as a long time fan I think is delightful, I hope it brings more people into the schizo setting.
i am too brainlet to understand the aspects thing. never understood it in cultist sim either
>>745236574Everything and anything has aspects. The little icons when you click on it. A table would have an aspect describing it as a "thing", for example. It's just general categorization.Principles are a set of aspects that describe a thing's spiritual properties. A knife, in addition to being say "a tool" and/or a "weapon", also demonstrates the Principle of Edge. Your standard knife will have low Edge, while a god-slaying relic knife will have high Edge.Card slots in all SH games will ask for/restrict certain aspects as a way to nudge you into providing the right thing.
The inventory UI is legendarily bad.
>>745238069It's not final, they've talked on their development podcast how they're both shit at UI and are hiring a freelancer to help with it.
