Where were you when Michael Kirkbride confirmed the next TES is called THE ELDER SCROLLS VI: SENTINEL ?
>>745206223When was the last time Kirkbride was in Bethesda offices?
>jeetess forces Todd to start making TES again>they set it in the homeland of the race most analogous to jeetsHMMMMMMMMMMM…
>starts with S like Skyrim>people will know what Sentinels are from Avengers DoomsdayI am noticing
>>745206347He wrote KINMUNE months before Skyrim came out so he knew about the College and the Eye of Magnus, and the Zenimax team got him to write a new Sermon for ESO at some point in the last decade.
>>745206223how is that impactful news at all?it doesn't tell you anything about the game.
>>745206512
wow is that a bunch of screenshots of comments hastily glued together without context? must be true
>>745206223this game will be written by emil tho
>>745206614>one of the expansions is “Return to Daggerfall” the same way Skyrim tried to cash in on Morrowind nostalgiaOh joy…can’t wait…
>>745206643The context is OP's text, brainlet-kun.
>>745206223>lemme handle that
Black Panther was popular like 10 years ago. Nobody cares about black media now. Odyssey proved we want trans men focused media. So making a game in Hammerfell is pointless now.
>>745207703They planned to make the next game be set in Hammerfell since Skyrim came out.
>>745206485he also wrote the books for hermaeus mora
>>745206223It doesn't matter because none of the old guard are working on it. Kuhlmann, Kirkbride himself, or any other major name. Starfield already demonstrated that Beth have lost the sauce. The only question is whether Todd can pull the wool over everyone's eyes again.
>>745207913Ackchyually that was Shane Liesegang.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Shane_Liesegang#Texts_Authored
>>745206347He worked on Skyrim and ESO, he wrote a new sermon of vivec for it. Wound not surprise me if Bethesda contracted him for some more work
>>745208152No Kuhlmann is a shame, MK (rightfully) gets a lot of praise but Kurt also contributed a lot and the lore wouldn't be the same without him
>>745206428That would be the Khajiit and the game is most certainly not in Elsweyr
>>745209476I wish it was, South Elsweyr is beautiful in ESOI dont remember North Elsweyr that much though, probably because it was mostly desert. I dont even remember the main hub in Northern Elsweyr
>>745206223Kockride is an edgelord faggot
>>745206614>what if our empty, contentless open world was a literal desert, not just a figurative one
>>745207913No, he wrote the Pelinal books
>>745209634we need more edge nowadays
>>745206223Lmao what a butthurt fag. He makes the most ominous posts about how he’s done with TES and even if Todd begs him to come back he won’t, and then he ruins the surprise for everyone for no reason. Sentinel is on the border of Illiac Bay and Hammerfell, so it’ll be half nigger world and half breton world. Wow. Thanks Kikebride I would have preferred to see it for myself in a trailer
>>745209634I'd rather a lil' bit of edge than the milquetoast safe setting that were the Commonwealth and United Colonies. So what if Kirkbride's OC Vivec facefuck raped Azura once, at least it's not boring.
>>745212836Nta but for me it’s not even about lore. Kirkbride has been taking weird ominous snipes at Todd and Bethesda literally for decades on Tumblr and other websites but whenever someone asks him point blank if he hates Todd he goes “OH NO NEVER I LOVE TODD!! I LOVED WORKING WITH TODD!!! TODD SAID I WAS THE GREATEST AND MOST CREATIVE ARTIST HES EVER WORKED WITH AND WHENEVER IM FEELING DOWN I LOOK BACK TO HIM SAYING THAT AND REMEMBER TODD HOWARD HIMSELF SAID THAT ABOUT ME!!**yes he literally said this btw
>>745206614It is pretty obvious where the next game is gonna be set by looking at the ESO map.No matter what area either game does it now needs to respect the lore of the other.While TES can get rid of ruins in ESO as its 1000s of years after, there will have to be similar continuities and this is teh 1st new TES game since ESO so bethesda have to have the beenfit of not being forced to follow what the ESO devs did.So yeah, hammerfell
>>745213036He can like Todd while still thinking Bethesda's way of doing things is disappointing, particularly when we know a lot of the shit he got pissed off over were actually the work of people like Bruce Nesmith rather than Todd, who contrary to popular belief, does not in fact develop each and every aspect of Elder Scrolls games all by himself
>>745206223>no soulecan't wait for people to realise just how carried this series has been by the music.it would be like star wars without John Williams.which the sequels may as well be since they have no memorable music.
>>745213036who gives a fuckskyrim is a boring pile of shit, and everything bethesda released after is also similarly shit. 6 will be trash, precisely because any and all edge and interesting shit will be sanded off
Played a bit of Skyrim a few months ago and it was even worse than I remember.
>>745213280Yeah. Inon Zur does alright, but man do the OSTs stand out when I replay Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim
>>745206223theres no faith in bethesda anymore, anon
>>745213116Rimmen was always my hub in ESO, such a nice city. Shame they got rid of Chapters to go the seasonal route.
>>745213116Yeah, the entire TES fandom has been calling Hammerfell as the location of the next game literally since Skyrim released due to the unusual amount of focus the Redguards get in that game with shit like the Saadia quest and the stupid tower theories and all, which makes it funnier when culture war tourists liken >>745206428 try to spin it as some recent politically motivated decision.
>>745213116Why did the ESO devs put the "Telvanni Peninsula" on the wrong spot, are they retarded? Do they not know what a peninsula is? Most of that is supposed to be Indoril territory y'know.
>>745213542>try to spin it as some recent politically motivated decisionIt's entirely possible, ignoring paranoiabethesda has the opportunity to make the mother of all pozzed media here
>The 36 sermons of Vivec, sermon 37>The light bent, and somewhere a history was finally undone. Of it, Vivec remembered the laughing of the netchimen of his village when the hunts were good. He marched with his father in the ash, growing strong in the hooks and sail, able to run a junk through silt. At eleven, he sung to an ashkhan. He became sick after Red Mountain, with the nix-blood and fever, and was infirm a hundred years. His mother survived him and laid his body at the altar of Padhome. She gave him her skin to wear into the underworld.>The worlding of the words is AMARANTH.ES VI needs Kirkbride to contribute in some wayhttps://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:36_Lessons_of_Vivec,_Sermon_37
>>745213542The tower theory is complete bullshit by the way
>>745213116>It is pretty obvious where the next game is gonna be set by looking at the ESO mapNot even that, they've been teasing it for years.This was an official screenshot posted by the main Elder Scrolls Twitter account on Dec 31, 2020>"Transcribe the past and map the future">three lights>light nº1 is in Solitude aka Skyrim's capital during TES V aka "the past">light nº2 is next to a bunch of ESO coins representing the-then current Greymoor expansion aka "the present">light nº3 is smack in the middle of Hammerfell aka "the future"Not to mention all the references to Hammerfell in Skyrim itself. It was never not incredibly obvious.
>>745206697So you thought dragonborn was a bad dlc?Are you a kid who was born after skyrim or just an insufferable hipster?
>>745213645Called that because Necron was the main hub
>>745213913Nothing about Skyrim was good
>>745213962Both. Got it.
>>745213962>t. Oblivion kid
>>745206223Sentinel would be a terrible title. It doesn't sound like a game set in Tamriel. It sounds like a game with robots and shit.
>>745213962Idk dragonborn was pretty good. It was nice to have a villain with SOME semblance of charisma and who you actually interacted with in some way before you fight him (it was pretty kino to have him randomly show up after you kill a dragon and steal the soul from you).Strong art direction for Apocrypha as well, and while there is nostalgia bait, Bethesda showed surprising restraint in that regard.
>>745213897There's also been concept art leaks from Bethesda artists on Pinterest who were gathering reference material for African stuff. It's 1 million percent Hammerfell.
>>745214063It mirrors Daggerfall. The former was TES2 and High Rock's capital, the latter will be TES6 and Hammerfell's capital.
>>745213981>>745214026I'm not an Oblivion kid, i'm older than that, but you can really tell most of this board were kids/teenagers when Skyrim came out, because a lot of people see their first ES game as the best oneSkyrim blows in genuinely every aspect of game design, except some of the music. If you weren't a stupid kid who was amazed at everything when Skyrim came out, you'd think the same. When 6 comes out and it's even more dumbed down and even more casualised, you're going to be one of the boomers who was unhappy with each next iteration of ES, calling it a dumbed down piece of shit, clamoring to nostalgia
>>745214086That's bullshit but I believe it
>>745214245Nice essay, kid. I wont be reading it. Suck my fat 40 year old cock.
>>745214063A dwarven robot named Sentinel is going to be the main villain. You heard it here first folks
>>745214245Funny you say all that, because my first TES was PS3 Oblivion yet I find it to be easily the worst of the Todd Trilogy without a shadow of a doubt.
>>745214063Neither does Oblivion to normal people who don't know ES lore
>>745206223What sentinel has to do with TES?Kinda boring not naming the region, maybe it's more than 1 region?
>>745214271Check it out yourselfhttps://youtu.be/-5lldjLj-PQSeparate every 2 numbers, and associate said number with its alphabet equivalent ie 2 is B, 3 is C. See what result you get.
>>745214462Oh, disregard that, I didn't knew it was a region, sorry.
>>745214462It's the capital of Hammerfell>lame not naming it after a provideBwo, Daggerfall and Oblivion?
>>745214460ES lore means nothing. It's as relevant as the Warcraft story
>>745214086
>>745213116what is this placename sense lmao
>>745214530Yeah, I know about Dagger fall but I thought it would be consistency by now.And Oblivion while not being a region it's the name of the plane, right? It still works.
>>745214617What the fuck is this ESO retard trying to say
>>745214209https://www.reddit.com/r/TESVI/comments/1e6fxao/bethesda_employees_pinterest_account_is_still/The main leak, there were others
>>745214640I think naming TES IV Cyrodill would be too nerdy. Oblivion is more palatable for normies
Oh wo i cannot wait man>Even more base building>Look we didnt make the combat system betetr you still press the left mouse ten-thousands times and chug 40 cheese wheels to heal>To make the game even more longlasting we implement AI generated dungeons and quest design. This means every day there will be uniqe quests made by AI only for YOU! depending how you play the game (Always online required ;))>For just the price of 90 dollars you wil have a map 20x times the size of Skyrim Nah thanks man
>>745214462>Kinda boring not naming the region,The funny part is that literally only Skyrim has what you could call an "accurate" title:>Arena was a name given when the game was thought to be a party-based arena combat game, and only retroactively stated to be a nickname for Tamriel due to how bloody it is (translator's note: Tamriel is never ever referred to as "the Arena")>Daggerfall actually takes place in the Iliac Bay, where you get access to half of High Rock and half of Hammerfell and other cities and kingdoms like Wayrest are just as important narratively if not moreso>Morrowind actually takes place just in the inner island of Vvanderfell>Oblivion is the worst part of its own game and 90% of the time you'll be in Cyrodiil instead>Skyrim actually does take place in Skyrim, simple as
How has Bethesda relied on radiant quests for three fucking games now and no one's lost their job for it
>>745214612Anon, who directed Starfield? Who directed every Elder Scrolls since 1998? What company is in charge of creating both Starfield and TES6? The idea the two are unrelated as if they're not two games made by the same fucking people is bizarre. A couple numbers, or having to cut each at different characters, is a coincidence. The whole thing exactly, with two numbers each, spelling a specific phrase now correlated by Asha and Kirkbride, is a bit too fucking clear.
>>745214789so much for the cope that bethesda sees it as the "middle east" and not subsaharan africa KEK
>hammerfellcan't wait for 8 trillion years of /v/ crying about browns
>>745213539I just stayed in mournohold as when i got a hang of doing my writs and hand ins I made it easy to just automate it in my mind.At some point i started to use vivec instead but I stopped playing about then.Not in a rush to get back into it desu.
>>745214640Skyrim is literally the only mainline game in the series with a truly accurate title
>>745214964The Lead Designer tends to have more sway on the product than Todd does per his own admission since the company usually has him working on several products at once and he cant be as hands on as he was for Morrowind and Oblivion.So Ken Rolston for OblivionSo Bruce Nesmith for SkyrimEmil (lmao) for Fallout 4 and StarfieldIf Emil is lead designer for TES VI then despair.
>>745215060Brown waifus
>>745215046Lots of influence of both areas based on all the lore we have up to this point. Although I'd argue it was always more subsaharan Africa aligned sonce redguard/morrowind, especially looking at their gods
>>745213542It is a bit annoying to have it in another "men"s race area as well as something that is just fucking generic desert rather than something cool like valenwood or even the argonion swamp.Imagine too they like to release in the autumn so a fucking desert game released in november.
>>745215167Forgot: Ken Rolston was also lead designer on Morrowind
>>745213645The entire peninsula is telvanni peninsula but they only added half of the peninsula. Any sort of loss to it later in the lore is irrelevant. The game is set 1000s years before morrowind (game)
>>745215046Looking at the ESO map >>745213116, I bet the north part will keep the North African arab theme (which is how it looks in ESO) and the south part which hasn't been covered will be the rest of Africa.
>>745215167And yet Todd is the one that came up with the idea of Skyrim revolving around dragons at all, circa 2007 when the idea was still Uriel V returning from Akavir. And still, that doesn't answer my point: do you believe your MC's employee number in Starfield translating to Sentinel of all words, is a coincidence?
>>745215406Twerking turns my dick inside out.Grossest thing. Nigger whore behavior.
>>745215406Good heavens! I was a prospective advertiser for this site, but I'll be taking my business elsewhere!
>>745215398The erasure of the Nordic pantheon did more damage to Skyrim than dragons, and we know that was Nesmith's work
inb4 they add both high rock and hammerfell regions completely but instead of a seamless worldspace you just pick outputs from a map like in Starfield and zone in a proc-gen square map filled with random poi
>>745213897I think you miss the point of me posting the map.The post I replied to had the bay of in the north breton areas and the south northern redugard areas where the game is clearly gonna be set either in all of hammerfell including bagkroia and alikir or just the south where ESO has not done any content.What we do know is that there is supposed to be ships, sailing so I expect hews bane, stros mkai and betnikh to be part of the game.
>>745215281They could never do Valenwood justice so I'd rather not have them try.Setting a game in Argonia would require some retcons since the other races literally cannot survive within Black Marsh proper. And 90% of the lore we do have comes from ESO
The Elder Scrolls: ASSHOLES
The Elder Scrolls : EMIL
>>745206223>FOR THE GLORY OF VISNU, MICHEAL, YOU BASTARD JUNKIE! YOU HAVE JUST REVEALED EVERYTHING AND RUINED THE NEXT TRAILER! IF I WON'T REACH 1.000.000.000.000.000 VIEWS IN 24 HOURS, ASHA WILL REPLACE US WITH OBSIDIAN!
This thing entered actual production this year, right? With modern dev cycles, Bethesda is probably going to release it around Skyrim's 20 year anniversary
>>745215729>I think you miss the point of me posting the mapWhat made you think that.>The post I replied to had the bay of in the north breton areas and the south northern redugard areasThe post you replied you had the Daggerfall game map of the Iliac Bay, because the post he replied to wondered how does knowing the game is titled "Sentinel" help us. So he posted a pic with Sentinel outlined as a location in Tamriel.>where the game is clearly gonna be set either in all of hammerfell including bagkroia and alikirNobody is arguing this, anon just posted the TES2 world map>or just the south where ESO has not done any contentNo, it's gonna be the entirety of Hammerfell. A mainline game's not gonna limit itself because of fucking ESO.
>>745216465Been in full dev since 2023 actually, if you looked over linkedin updates from laid off staff. Probably out by 2028.
>>745216465Yeah according to Todd and Emil is lead director again.
>>745216465Early 2024 at the earliest, given Starfield released late 2023 and you gotta give a few months of leeway for Christmas vacation + people moving projects and getting up to speed while some remained behind to work on the Starfield DLCs.
>>745216498>No, it's gonna be the entirety of HammerfellIt could be just the illiac bay again
>>745216570>Probably out by 2028Zero chance of that happening. Zero
>>745216498>A mainline game's not gonna limit itself because of fucking ESO.The point is that they left the area empty SO that bethesda dont have to limit their creativity to include ESO stuff. If they do (by the looks of it) its only parts of the region they will have to closely look at ESO and keep their creativity in line with ESO.>>745216592Part of me thinks it would also include it as its about sailing and with the starfield shit they might add procedural gen to islands but doing daggerfall/bretons area and then all the islands that are already in ESO seems like a lot of work. Work they would want to slice off for DLC.
>>745216578>Emil is lead director againWrong, actually. Kuhlmann was meant to be, but he was passed for Alan Nanes.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Alan_NanesEmil wasn't Skyrim's lead designer either, Nesmith and Kuhlmann were. So far Emil has stuck to being Lead Designer only on Fallout and Starfield, never Elder Scrolls.
>>745216769Yeah, bud. He's just going to be sitting around while Bethesda takes ages to make the game
>>745216830>you either lead the game or don't work on it at all, there's no in-betweenClever kid are you.
>game so shit the title is censored with asterisks, as if saying it is offensiveNot a great omen is it?
>>745209634only irony poisoned retards think edge is a bad thing
>>745216830Either he'll be a quest/faction writer again (like he was for Oblivion and Skyrim) or he's lead dev for Fallout 5 and is doing preproduction, or both
>>745216465It started development in 2023 and is already in a playable state as corroborated by multiple insider reports, linkedin resumes, and the CEO of Xbox herselfI know making fun of the game for just entering development in 2023 was funny and all but you gotta let go man that shit was literally 3 years ago
>>745207703
>>745217048>you gotta let go man that shit was literally 3 years agoFUCK YOU TODD YOU ANNOUNCED THE GAME 8 YEARS AGO AND IT'S BEEN 15 SINCE SKYRIM
>>745217228you couldn't do that math without an app?
>>745217294I find it hard to post a screencap of my brain on /v/ - Video Games, anon.
>>745215046Only secondaries say that. Redguards are objectively black, if not in culture then certainly in phenotype, and have been since the Redguard spin-off in the 90s.
>>745217694>certainly in phenotyperedguards aren't real you fucking loser
>>745215046>>745217694Niggas always do be fohgettin' 'bout the reales' nigga, TRAYVOND THE GODGUARD!
>>745217694Truth is Redguards are whatever the designer is thinking about at the time. They're Arabs in Daggerfall judging by their building style, Black Panther-inspired pirates in Redguard, Yokudan weebs in Morrowind, have basketball American names in Oblivion like Curtis or Kelvyn or Neville, and back to being Arabs in Skyrim.
>>745217906They can be all that at once y'know. In the Redguard comic made for the game, some of them wear turbans, and Sentinel is. depicted as a islamic golden age arab city like it is in Daggerfall. The same comic depicts ancient yokudans as clearly african-inspirednpeople with tribal masks who fought orcs while naked.The fact that people have the belief that they can only be one or the other is particularly strange to me, since arabs and africans are not exactly entirely separate civilizations with nothing to do with another y'know? Islam plays a fairly major role in subsaharan African history and vice versa.
>>745218382That's nice and all, but how did you get a pic of me?
Redguards have always been a mix of subsaharan Africa and north Africa (which is Arab yes)
>TES VI brings spears back just so you can make a spear chucking Redguard buildI kneel Todd
>>745217048>in a playable statethat means or confirms literally nothing
>>745215167Alan Nanes is the design director for tes6
>>745219819>the quest designer for every bethesda fallout is the lead this timeDead on arrival
>>745208152This. Bethesda is a completely different company than it was 15 years. It will be awful corpo slop.>>745213280This too. Soules sound is the sound of TES.
>>745219923He also made most of the oblivion quests people remember, but yeah, he's got some stinkers
>>745206223>SAAAR THIS GAME IS INCREDIBLE, DO THE NEEDFUL AND REDEEM IT>Yes Jeetsha, you are right, all of you should redeem it! Consider this comment a totally natural response and not a faux attempt at drumming up hypeOH MY ONIONS, I MUST REDEEM!!! THE TWITTER SCREENSHOT OF A REDDIT IMAGE TOLD ME SO!!
>heh as I expected it seems you have no retort to my schizophrenic meltdown
>>745213542>politics started when Donald Trump was elected presidentyou are a fucking retard
after FO4 and Starfield, I do not have any interest in playing TES SkyrimButBlack
>>745206223>Michael Kirkbride
>>745216950You're underage
Kinooooooooo
>>745224640Honestly modern Beth could learn a thing or two from daggerfalls story. It was actually really interesting, the issue was the main quest branches so much that its likely you only see a piece of the story on a playthrough
>>745223502NWAH!
>>745213297>skyrim is a boring pile of shitAccording to who?
>>745224724They could learn a thing or two about bringing carts and airships back
>>745224878According to me, you stupid nigger. You let sales numbers and arbitrary scores dictate your taste? I've played all of these games and i've come to the conclusion that Skyrim fucking blows
>>745224724Keeping actual notes on what I found out during my Iliac Bay investigation on what each kingdom secretly wanted and who had the fucking letter was incredibly fun
reminder
>>745225298>According to meSo some who doesn't matter. Got it.
>>745214617A lot of the place-names in Tamriel come from Arena, where they were semi-randomly generated. Just two words stuck together. Like Stonefalls, Stormhold, Wayrest, Ebonheart, Dragonstar. The more interesting sounding names in Morrowind are just retconned versions of these, like Balmora used to be Stoneforest, and the name Sadrith Mora was made later to mean "Mushroom Forest".Cyrodiil doesn't suffer from this because in Arena, the only place in the Imperial Province was... the Imperial City.
>>745206223at home, playing skyrim
>>745220360>>745208152Anons in 2010 could post the same shit but replace Starfield with Fallout 3.
>>745213116>there will have to be similar continuities and this is teh 1st new TES game since ESOESO is not canon.
>>745225715Not like it matters, even if Bethesda counts it as canon (they do) there's no shot people working at Bethesda Maryland will give a damn about what some random dude from Zenimax Online wrote in 2016 about some city or another. And they can rightfully not care much, because ESO takes place nearly a thousand years before Skyrim. How similar is the world now to how it was in 1026?
>>745225825>they doSource
>>745225825Most of the hammerfell stuff in eso was based on information in Redguard/PGE 1st ed, so theres not much in ESO in that regard to retcon that doesnt have its source in Bethesda regardless
>>745213913>solstheim but retconned to be full of dwemer ruins, a completely different form of drauger, snorefest daedric libraries, and a donut steele gary stu villain >but it's good because they lazily copied the morrowind soundtrack with its original soundfont, not even bothering to re-record it with the orchestra that did skyrim's ost
>>745215281>that is just fucking generic desertFirst off, Hammerfell isn't just a desert, picrel. Second, the game is set in Hammerfell and High Rock.
>>745226092Isn't there like One dwemer ruin on solstheim in dragonborn
>>745224878The only person that matters.
>>745215465go back to /lgbt/
>>745215281Hammerfell's not all desert, it has basically every biome that isn't cold. If they include High Rock then that's resolved.
>>745206223ELDER SCROLLS VIGOOD MORNING SAARHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>745221504Tourists like you migrated here in mass when he did. The site has been going to shit with your political culture war shit ever since.
>>745213897>t.
>>745226168?
>>745213297>skyrim is a boring pile of shit,nah, its pretty addicting, just like oblivion and morrorwind
>>745217752They didn't say they were, secondary.
Will Todd deliver and more ? I just don't see it with their track record in the last decade and more. They don't even bother making PC-friendly UIs anymore.
>>745226117>the game is set in Hammerfell and High RockNo way would they do 2 regions That is a 2x the size of skyrim. they would rather sell that as DLC and that is literally 2x the work too as they cant reuse assets like they could in skyrim with every barrow and dragur being the same in nearly every dungeon.
>>745226798They could just do the Illiac Bay you stupid zoomer retard
>>745221504How is it political to set a fantasy videogame in a part of its fantasy setting that is already established to be relevant to the plotline they set up
>>745225936https://www.thegamer.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-rich-lambert-interview-trolling-devs-off-limits-lore-tv-show/>“Todd [Howard] has said many, many times that we've been carrying the torch for The Elder Scrolls and we are canon,” Lambert says. “All of the stuff we have done, they absolutely have to think about when they go and build their next thing. How they do that and what they're doing, I don't know. But, you know, we're absolutely part of the world of Tamriel in the end.”
>>745226916And to be fair, aside from vanilla ESO being an abomination, they released a series of DLCs and expansions with really great stories and lore (Orsinium, Morrowind/Clockwork City, Summerset, Elsweyr, Gold Coast)
>>745206428that would be morrowind
>>745216759ESO is not canon.
>>745227017lol no ESO summerset is an abomination
>>745225936The fact you assume a new official product for an IP is canonical unless specified otherwise.The fact ESO's developers have said it's canon.The fact no one from Todd's team have said they are wrong at any point in the last decade.The fact TES Anniversary Art includes ESO characters alongside those of the mainline titles.The fact Oblivion Remastered has ESO references.
>>745226884>zoomer retard>too retarded to follow a threadStop posting and lurk moar, it is never enough.>>745227051In your mind but it actually is the canon of TES lore.
I recently reinstalled ESO because I currently lack an MMO socialization game. So my question is... Which zones do all the women who play ESO congregate in?
>>745227076>Oblivion Remastered has ESO references.QRD?
>>745226916ESO lore is completely irrelevant to the 4th era it's far in the past.
>>745227076It's obviously not canon.
>>745226916Some guy claims Todd said it? That's supposed to be evidence? Ok. Todd Howard has said many, many times to me that ESO hasn't been carrying the torch for The Elder Scrolls and they are not canon.
>>745227152Probably vivec
>>745226916Todd also told good ol' Kuhlmann that he would definitely get to be the TES VI lead director, and that he'd vouch for Kirkbride in his bid to be ESO's lore guy. He's just a nice fellow who likes being reassuring to his friends, i wouldn't take what he says seriously.>How they do that and what they're doing, I don't knowCase in point lolAnd like what has already been said in this thread, ESO takes place nearly a thousand years before the point the main games are in after Skyrim, they literally can't include much shit from it without it feeling forced
>>745206223>Todd tricks jeeta by coloring Skyrim snow yellow and pretending it's a new game
>>745224724The last time they took notes from Daggerfall, you faggots started pissing and whining about traveling to different planets and not having seamless land to space transitions.
>>745227076But newfag anon said that his personal opinion controls external reality and employed developer commentary is inferior to his literal who rhetoric.
>>745227076>The fact Oblivion Remastered has ESO references.No it doesn't.
What are the chances we'll get Sword Singing as the new Shout 'magic-that-isn't-magic' for more 'streamlining' that doesn't require you to specialize or commit to any particular style of gameplay? (bonus points if it's tied to the main quest and how special and unique the player is for existing and you're essentially just Dragonborn 2.0)
>>745227310He was right. Just shows that when everybody else is lying youth speaks true.
>>745227358Sounds like psychosis and will not work well out in meatspace. The younger <100 IQ iToddler generation is doomed.
>>745226798>That is a 2x the size of skyrimThey could always make the scale smaller, which would suck. Pic related: Beyond Skyrim Cyrodiil's Imperial Province is bigger than Oblivion's Imperial Province because the former is at scale with Skryim itself.Knowing nu-Bethesda, adding both High Rock and Hammerfell would mean that the two combined would be smaller than they're meant to be in lore, which would suck.
>>745226164There are three explicitly labeled ones, and dwemer structures dotting the map outside of the locations. Two could maybe considered "oh they were buried before and were dug up later" but one's sticking out in the fucking ocean.
>>745226798>That is a 2x the size of skyrimThey have more than twice the employees working there now compared to when Skyrim was made. Making a game twice its size is completely feasible.
>>745227334Yes it does. When making a Bosmer you can choose to be from Grahtwood or Reaper's March, neither of which were regions with names until ESO. Similarly, you can be a Breton from the Systres. Probably something similar for Argonians too i would guess
>>745227017Peaked with Orsinium and Clockwork City, now it's back to being shit.https://youtu.be/MxO_lgdIk4M
>>745226706>They don't even bother making PC-friendly UIs anymore.
>>745227458LMAO Skyrim is already a shallow piece of shit, you want to stretch that to a map twice its size?
>>745227076The anniversary art has ESO references because the artist they hired is a secondary who has clearly never played a TES game beyond ESO and Skyrim, as made evident by the fact his shitty Morrowind anniversary art had more ESO garbage in it than stuff that was actually in TES III
>>745227610Oh i have no doubt, and yeah the meeting with Sotha Sil in the garden was pure kino
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>>745227458>>745227704
>>745227175>>745227334They replaced the gender stat differences with origins, and some of them like Grahtwood, Reaper’s March or the Systres are ESO originals.
>>745214958There's nothing wrong with radiant quests, that's how.
>>745227180Tamriel barely changes. Seyda Neen is identical over 1,000 years ago. The culture of races in ESO is almost entirely the same as what appears in other games set in the distant future. And there are lots of things you wouldn't expect to change anyway, like monsters and natural geography.>>745227334When you make your character in the remaster, you also get to choose what region you come from. A lot of the regions are places that were introduced in ESO.No way around it, ESO is canon and already informing the design of mainline games.
>>745228059When they only make a handful of curated quests, most of which feel like radiant quartz anyway, there's a lot wrong with radiant quests
>>745216704You're retarded
>>745228072To be fair, the state of Vvardenfel in ESO is totally a bullshit retcon so that they can milk Morrowind nostalgia, and i like Morrowind and ESO
>>745227458Anon they haven't even been able to make a game of Skyrim quality in 15 years, what makes you think Starfield's devs will be able to make a good game?
>>745228072>Seyda Neen is identical over 1,000 years ago.Seyda Neen is supposed to be an Imperial colonial town built in an Imperial Style named after a recent shipwreck that was founded at most a little more than a decade before Morrowind's events, when Vvardenfell District was opened up for colonization.The reason it is in ESO is not due to some conscious desire to establish that Tamriel is stagnant for whatever reason, it is a result of the fact that MMOs are a soulless genre and poison for worldbuilding and lore that rely a lot on nostalgiabaiting.
>>745228295Emil isn't the lead designer for one
>>745228295Starfield isn't Elder Scrolls.
>>745228059This but unironically.
>>745228072Seyda Neen shouldn't even exist in the Second Era.
>>745206223>the SCALE, the GRANDEUR>the cities:
>>745217906>have basketball American names in Oblivion like Curtis or Kelvyn or Nevilledon't forget Trayvond the Redguard
>>745228449>>745228489I wish I could be this hopeful, but the actual people that worked on the old games? They're gone.
>>745228983All I'm seeing is a bunch of Fallout and Skyrim credits, they will not be missed
>>745228642Did ESO even bother coming up with an explanation as to why it has Seyda Neen in it like they did for their Cyrodiil not being a jungle (something something Talos' retroactively removed jungle across all of space and time) or are you just meant to accept the idea that the Dunmer randomly decided to build an Imperial town in the Second Era for no reason
>>745228645>xbox 360 as the lead platform>6 years after the console was released>lead platform's hardware was anemic even in 2005>bro why weren't skyrim's cities huge???
>>745229059>All I'm seeing is Skyrim creditsClean your glasses then.
>>745229059You're trying too hard to be a contrarian.
Don't care. Still calling it Skyrim 2. >three Farcrys and a Breaking Bad spinoff since Skyrim's release
>>745229067>The Gold Coast Trading Company, a trade partner of House Hlaalu at the time, was commissioned by the local House Hlaalu members to construct the town's various abodes and buildings (which as a consequence bore architecture in the typical Imperial-style).
It might come off as a shock to you, but there are MULTIPLE people out there that have a functioning brain. Recognising Shitrim as shit does require at least a bit of critical thinking, after all
>>745227232>Some guyI'm not a fan of Rich Lambert, but he isn't just some guy. He was the creative director for ESO and employed under Zenimax just like Todd.
>>745229068>i-it's just designed for old hardwareHere's your intergalactic capital city from Starfield™ (2023). This will definitely be the time they remove area loading screens from their ancient hacked together engine right?
>>745213542>recent politically motivated decisionGrats on being retarded.
>>745229306I like how they made this expecting the morrowfags to söypog at it only for it to just piss them off instead
>>745229067ESO actually presented two different, conflicting reasons as to why Cyrodiil is not a jungle.
>>745229068Meanwhile AssCreed 2 on the 360:
It is actually The Elder Scrolls VI: Skyrim 2The space counts as an asterisk in password boxes
>>745229473you can't go in those buildings thougheverbeit
>>745229306Why does House Hlaalu even have land on Vvardenfell when the game takes place at a time when they're supposed to still be plucky weaklings confined to their corner at the southwest and House Indoril reigns supreme
>>745206223>SentinelI feel like this is a good time to repost this screenshot I took over a year ago.
>>745229629Because Morrowind was just nostalgia bait because the games future was still rocky at that point. Clockwork City was fantastic, though
>>745229628every buildings in skyrim is their own world within the game world, you idiot.this allow you to have a huge town and still run it on limited resources, bethesda is just full of useless cunt running a game on a shit ass engine that should have been upgraded a long time ago
>>745229739Every leak has Sentinel because it was the safest, most rational choice. I mean, I believe it is set in Sentinel, but just because a leak said it it doesn't make the leak credible
>>745229739Honestly this sounds kind of like starfield so I believe it.
>>745229794>every buildings in skyrim is their own world within the game worldSo?The fact they created interiors for 95% of them is the reason why skyrim's towns are pathetically tiny to begin with, regardless of them being separate loading zones.
>>745229473How many buildings can you enter.How many items can you interact with, pick up and have phyiscs attached to them.How many of the NPCs are static and forever existing, have their own names, inventories, schedules and quests attached to them.It's not rocket science anon, the more details the less quantity you can have. It's why Shenmue's world was smaller than GTA III's. It's always been the same regardless of generation.>well what about >>745229393Starfield is just undefendable garbage.
Personally, I'd prefer the game be set in Highrock. Valenwood would be epic but Bethesda are raped faggots and could never pull it off in a satisfying way not even under the best circumstances. So Niggafall it is.
>>745229372>He was the creative director for ESO and employed under Zenimax just like Todd.And?
>>745230125chud incels will complain about "muh redguards" being the focus, but I think it'll be absolutely hilarious to create a white savior player character and kill hundreds of redguard men while impregnating all of their women.
>>745229393>Here's your intergalactic capital city from Starfield™ (2023)Looks good
>>745213913God damn you zoomie normalfags really get touchy over skyrim
>>745206223god youre such a dumb fucking tourist secondary nigger faggot
Why couldn’t we get an Argonian game?
>>745206223I'm so glad to have dropped videogames as a hobby. What a fucking joke
>>745206223I was sitting here in front of my computer when I saw this twitter/reddit screencap thread and learned the news.
>>745230441Because normal people aren't gonna buy a game where at least half of all NPCs are anthropomorphic lizards + Argonians are not relevant to the ongoing overarching plot
>>745229393>considerably bigger than skyrim cities and full of locations both out in the open and in internal cells that you can enter>>745229473>set dressing buildings you can't enterretard
>>745206223~5 years ago i would have been hyped about this.now i'm as indifferent as before. the X posts are meaningless because both parties want to sell that shit. so even a dumpsterfire program that crashes whenever you try to start a new game would be described as 'grandiose'.
>>745230418ironic
>>745230620fish are pretty cool
>>745206223So there I was, cupping my balls in my left and, and scrolling with my right hand when I saw this thread.
>>745232329>fish are pretty co-
>>745230898>and in internal cells that you can enterYou can't enter a lot of those buildings in starfield either retard
>>745229628>thougheverbeitesl
>>745233613You can enter far more than in asshole's creed, you disingenuous cunt.
>>745225715Bethesda rewrites the entire lore every installment. It doesn't matter.
>>745218521He's looking to purchase a few bucks
>>745209634Truth
>>745206223>guy that hasn't worked for bethesda in 20 years say something
>>745234761>hasn't worked for bethesda in 20 yearsSkyrim is 15 years old
>>745226174shut up retard.
>>745234884He also wrote a book for ESO in 2017
>>745209634MK is a stoner sack of shit who thinks his acid trips are deep. My Nerevar killed his precious special OC Vivec and shit down his neck. I did this while sober.Fuck you MK.
>>745234984Kirkbride being high while writing Morrowind is a myth tho
>>745230372Please don me with your divine oldfag experience. Im positive youve been channing since the beginning. Have sex, virgin.
i've never finished a bethesda game they play like shit
>>745234973>2017 was 9 years ago
>>745234973And he's also friends with a guy who worked at Bethesda up until development on TES VI began in 2023 and who was originally gonna be its lead director, dude probably just told MK about Bethesda's plans he knew of
>>745206428You fuckers are so retarded it is unreal.
>>745213280>>745220360oof if soule is out then this game is dead on arrival
>>745213116Wtf daggerfall is in the wrong spot I'm never playing an elderscrolls game again
>>745232329>fish are pretty cool
>>745213369That webm rules lol
>>745229393>area loading screensThey are called cells and if you were not such a retard you would understand that the variables in their games are so astronomical that they need cells to keep the game performing.You do understand that every item in bethesda games have physics and item placement/memory as well as NPCs have scripted behaviors and routines.Its retards like you that complained about poor performance in a CPU intensive game like dragons dogma 2 who also complain about a memory intensive game like bethesda games.
>>745229393now that's freaking epic
>>745235442The irony is that Daggerfall is the only game that features Daggerfall east of the Bay.Arena? West.PGE1? West.Redguard? West-ish.Morrowind Codex? West.Oblivion Codex Map? West.ESO? WestI too believe eastern Daggerfall looks better so I'm mad at this as well
>>745235576he's kinda like me ngl
>>745229886>It's because they made interiors in Skyrim!!!>Meanwhile Starfield cities are barely bigger and yet you can't even enter into 90% of buildings, houses or apartments Disgusting
>>745213542You sound like such a weak faggot holy shit. Go sing kumbaya about homosex somewhere else, nerd
>>745213116>Taking forever to do all of Tamriel because you keep waiting for console generation changes>Instead of just full-assing it in Morrowind, graphics be damned>This near 40 year old world that was a DnD campaign STILL doesn't have a full end-to-end map even in the premier MMORPG series (Elsewhere has parts cut, you can't can see areas not done)>Development has damn near ended on ESO because of Spaghetti codeStick a fork in the Elder Scrolls: It's done.
>>745213542I mean it's Hammerfell it'll just make that side-game (Redguard) irrelevant.
>>745236348I stand corrected but daggerfall(game) is indeed my favorite too. I grew up on morrowind so I'm millenial unc
>>745237748yeah starfield is shit, what else is new?
>>745214335Post hog, bb.
>>745238232>Spaghetti codeIts not spaghetti code and the game is still big. Issue is the player base is spread out as its too big, it lacks direction because MS fucked the team and its just basically be seen as a low priority (the future development of it) by the jeet at MS.They even had to literally 180 their roadmap because the jeet laid loads of the devs off.It was doing fine and they could have filled the map out by now but have been longing it out for future revenue by creating shit like planes of oblivion over areas of tamriel.
>>745238298Redguard was never relevant
>>745238298Redguard took place on one singular island and was about something else entirely, that's like worrying about Skyrim making the one side game set in Dawnstar irrelevant
>>745238779It's still relevant to this day akshually, it introduced the Pocket Guide to the Empire, which is the de facto founding document of modern TES lore and the birth of the setting as it exists today>inb4 delusional daggerlarpers
>>745206614>>745206223Why would it be Sentinel and not Hammerfell? Its not going to be just Sentinel and none of the rest of Hammerfell is it? To proper scale thats like if Skyrim was just Hjaalmarch or something
>>745238943Because it sounds cool. Skyrim is literally the only game in the franchise whose title is 100% accurate, so it's not a big concern of theirs, especially when Daggerfall, a game that is named after a city/kingdom much like Sentinel, exists.
>>745238930Pretty sure anon was talking about the game itself, not its manual. There's little about Cyrus' adventure that's relevant to the future. At best, it was the first time we got a proper look at the Dwemer outside of the retconned LOTR Dwarves they were in Arena. Unironically, Daggerfall would be more relevant due to its introduction of Numidium and the nature of its endings leading to Dagoth's Akulakhan and the Warp in the West respectively.
>>745238943See >>745214236 and >>745214843
>>745238408Skyrim is also shit
>>745238210>noooo you can't just make fun of my secondary delusions
>>745238943It's naming itself after a city like Daggerfall did, because the game isn't just Hammerfell, but includes parts of High Rock around the Iliac Bay. They made a whole ship building and vehicle system for Starfield, they're obviously gonna recycle that for sailing.
>>745235965>Original Skyrim (2011) Minimum Requirements>OS: Windows 7, Vista, or XP (32 or 64-bit)>CPU: Dual Core 2.0 GHz>RAM: 2 GB>GPU: DirectX 9.0c with 512 MB VRAM (GeForce 7600 GT / Radeon X1800)>Storage: 6 GB free spaceSURELY TODAYS SYSTEMS COULD HANDLE A BIT MORE OBJECTSyou got laid off recently by any chance?
>>745213116beth don't give two shits about lore continuity in their own games let alone the zos slop that they delibertately had them set thousands of years in the past so that it could be ignored freely
>>745239543why
>>745206223>SAAAAARS PLEASE TO BE CARE ABOUT THE ELDEN SCROLLS SAAARS BUY THE XBOX SAARSThere's no space between the final word and the question mark btw. Now fuck off back to Twitter.
>>745243413You sound mad.
You think TES6 is gonna have Elder Scrolls style companions, where they're purposefully more barebones so you can project different personalities to them to aid in roleplaying like Lydia and the Adoring Fan and such, or that they'll go full Fallout and give you a far more limited number of them but with actual """""personality""""" (any Starfield follower not named Andreja) and backstory and such?
>>745244776I think they know modern players expect a whole backstory and personality so they'll do the latter. I hold out hope that they still remember TES is the series for people with an imagination, but Baldur's Gate 3 is far in the rearview mirror at this point. The expectations for western RPGs are just different now.
>>745245042Same, I feel tons of people miss the point of the blank 'pack mule' style of companions and believe they're solely a time/budget/whatever limitation and not an intended artistic decision. Bethesda should stick to their strenghts, and that's creating emergent experiences born from their freeflow "immersive sim lite" mechanics, not creating BioWare style followers with personal quests and romance and shit.
Joyous.
>>745246190Are those the infamous stealth archers?
>>745246190It looks like this tho
>>745234984Kirkbride has not only said he was never high while writing for Morrowind, but he has never made any public statements whatsoever about taking psychedelics. That's all projection from people who read his work and go "dude shrooms XD" because they can't imagine people writing interesting things by just being well-read and creative.
Sentinel is just Daggerfall 2, since it'll be a rehash of the whole Iliac Bay region. It will most likely exclude the scratched out regions and I'm being generous. They could easily cut out way more of the northwestern region of High Rock, possibly all the way down to Glenpoint.The part of Hammerfell still in might get expanded south slightly, but not much. Wayrest and the Wrothgarian mountains are included because Wayrest is important and there will probably be a section of the game where you need to go convince the orcs to help or something.
>>745246575Nah it's not that complicated. It comes from this image, the joke circulated so long people began to believe it's real.
