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Are we happy about this?
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>needing to ask strangers on the internet how you feel about something
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>>745214891
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>>745214818
I dont care either way as long as they finish out the trilogy and remake 3rd
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>>745214818
No im not happy about censored slop and Falcom died with YS X
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>>745215282
Wouldn't mind them doing the Crossbell games as well and stopping there.
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>>745214818
They censored this into the ground didn't they?
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>>745215550
Crossbell kinda sucks and im tired of pretending it doesnt but giving artists more excuses to draw Rixia and Elie's tits is good
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>>745215613
Don't listen to this guy (besides the tits)
Azure on this graphical level will absolute peak.
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>>745214818
Yeah. Trails 1st was great. They deserve the profit.
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Trails is such an awful franchise, JRPGs literally have no taste
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Tita is a sexy toy for rapeking
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modern falcom may not be anything special in the grand scheme of things and yet they're still somehow better than other current JRPG studios
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>>745214818
falcom never seem to ever reinvest in themselves any time they have any success so it really doesnt matter whether theyre doing well or barely getting by
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>>745214818
Kondos happy because this means he can continue to keep kicking the can down the road in regards to the main series and just spend the next 10 years remaking his games
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>>745214818
See this is why they shouldn't even stop making legend of heroes games, they are the greatest games ever made.
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>>745215790
Azure is definitely the weaker of the two.
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>>745215790
Azure was so hilariously overrated by people who played it early that its fucking crazy. The entire game is carried by chapter 2 where as the rest of the game are a bunch of people trying to one up each other as to who can be the main villain. Its honestly just proto Cold Steel
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>>745216367
this, nu-falcom began wirh azure
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>>745215790
>Bad gameplay
>Doubles down on haremshit to the point where its made a mechanic
>Everything in the Azure tree is shit
>Arios is a stupid fucking character
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>>745214818
>sold 20 copies instead of 18
>this is success
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Have you ever seen gameplay in a Trails thread
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>>745214818
Estelle WON!. Rean on suicide watch!
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>>745216367
>>745216354
>>745216479
Hahaha's hands posted this btw
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>>745215998
>JRPGs
why are you speaking like JRPGs are humans or something wtf LOL
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>>745216615
I think Cold Steel is pretty bad too, but I found it to be more entertaining bad than frustrating bad
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So basically 4th Calvard game never ever, since Falcom jumped in the remake train.
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>>745214818
Woohoo, ten years of Trails remakes
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>>745216852
Considering how absolutely atrocious Kuro 2 was and how mid Kai was its not like its very profitable to continue them
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>>745216354
>>745216367
zero is lower stakes and doesn't as many hype moments as azure, but it is consistently good and doesn't have anything as retarded as the big bad being a fat lawyer and no one important actually dying despite them doing a million fakeouts.
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>>745216852
next year
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>>745216852
idk why people are celebrating this
the appeal of this series was that it was always moving forward and now everyone just wants them to remake the first few games over and over instead of actually continue the story
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>>745214818
No wonder they did not care about Kyoto Xanadu.
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>>745216972
Zero was interesting and paced well enough. I found the criminal underworld to be a lot more fun and the D;G cult was sort of interesting until Azure decided to handwave them and go "oh hehe it was just a 400 year keikoku that went slighly wrong lmao" and got rid of them, which they seemed to have kind of ended up regretting considering that they are still kind of used in Calvard. All the good moments in Azure were hard carried by Osbourne and Siegmund

More importantly it was also just a more fun game to play
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>>745217123
>the appeal of this series was that it was always moving forward
lol
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>>745214818
Playing it I remember why I don't like Falcom games. It's a turbo-linear visual novel that disguises itself as a jRPG. In 10 hrs you get all combat has to offer, there is barely and exploration and progression and sense of discovery but overly long expositions and characters talking in circles. Only game I really liked from them was Ys8
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>>745217123
Because this series has been dogshit since cold steel.
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>>745217216
Earlier than that. Your perception is just wrapped because XSEED is mega retarded.
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>>745217123
4chan is home to a very small and loud subset of reanfags that have been relentlessly bullied for over a decade, and they are mentally ill to the degree they think calvard fans are fans of the arc to "shit on" rean and cold steel
and much to their dismay, most of the west likes the calvard arc more than they liked cold steel
and they cope by saying that japan likes cold steel, but then things like the OP conflict with them celebrating more remakes, because the remake seems to have flopped in Japan
falcom's home market has never been more irrelevant than ever
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>>745217341
Crossbell is great don't talk to me Cold Steel nigger
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>>745217123
Trails "fans" are not actually fans of Trails 95% of the time. Most of them only like one arc, maybe two. Then they just spend their time bitching about the rest of the series. They love LARPing about how much they love the series and how amazing le worldbuilding is etc but then most of them don't even like 75% of the games.
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>>745217406
Bit of a snore fest desu.
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>>745217406
It only appears that way because you played after the decline continued.
Going straight from 3rd into Zero and Azure shows how bad they are by comparison.
Don't tell me you actually enjoyed shit like this.
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>>745217681
nta, and no, going from 3rd to zero and azure was a blast
i didn't see a decline until i started playing the cold steel arc, and that declined continued into the calvard arc
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>>745217681
>assuming shit about me
I played the crossbell game with the fan made TL back in the days way before I ever touched cold shit so shut the fuck up you stupid fucking nigger.
>Don't tell me you actually enjoyed shit like this.
What am I suppose to be mad about here?
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>>745217473
the problem is that only one arc is great (sky), one is mostly good (crossbell), and the rest of the games are straight up shit or mediocre at best.
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If Rixia's boobs get even bigger in the next story arc, I'll cum on the spot.
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>>745217820
>the fan made TL back in the days
God pretending to be an oldfag is so pathetic lol
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>>745217123
I'm celebrating it because the remake was a good game, with a faithful localization, great gameplay, appealing looks, nice music, and cute characters. The open world is reasonably expansive but not tedious. It also has a decent amount of difficulty without being grindy or unfair.
It's basically a perfect JRPG. Taken on its own, it is one of the best JRPGs released in this decade. And compared to other remakes, it's pretty much the gold standard of a vidya remake.

I don't give a shit about 30 years of fanbase argument baggage and neither do most players. It's just a good game, and good games ought to be bought, played, and encouraged. While shit games are mocked and then forgotten. This is the natural order of vidya we must all preserve and defend.
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>>745217938
>get BTFO
>lol you're just le pretending you are le poser xD
Fucking dumbass here actually waited until NISA official release like the good little zoomer tard he is how cute.

Not everyone a newfag kid like you.
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>>745214818
yaaay, more falcon games please, ive gotten the achievements for almost all of them
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>>745217190
>It's a turbo-linear visual novel that disguises itself as a jRPG
and which JRPGs aren't like that?
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>>745217123
You honestly don't even need to play the rest of the series. You can play FC/SC and you've seen pretty much all the series has to offer. 3rd is also good but it can temp you into thinking that the rest of the series is going to be awesome even though everything set up in 3rd either goes nowhere or has a lame payoff.
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>>745218034
99% of the English speaking fanbase went from SC to Cold Steel 1 because we didn't have any choice.
But you don't know that because you were still in diapers.
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>>745217940
It actually felt really nice to finally play a game with actual good faithful translation. I just got done playing granblue relink and holy shit this game translation is fucking awful and big surprise Xsneed the one who did the localization of that game.
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>>745218174
Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy 7, Chrono Trigger?
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>>745218196
Im sure your made up number make sense in your head but no I did not go from SC to cold shit.
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>>745217820
>What am I suppose to be mad about here?
LOL
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>>745214818
I'm not happy about anything.
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>>745218174
So every RPG
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>>745218234
Xseed didn't localize the game they only published the physical version in NA, Cygames does their localization in house.
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>>745218821
My bad I saw Xseed logo and bad translation so I just assumed it was them
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>>745217473
i mean youd be hard pressed to find any series on /v/ that isnt like this
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why are ys physical copies so fucking expensive? its why I never even play those games
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>>745217940
>And compared to other remakes, it's pretty much the gold standard of a vidya remake.
You need to play more remakes.
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>>745216852
I have no idea how they can even follow up Kai and have it be a satisfying send-off for the Calvard arc. The arc itself just has too many unlikable characters (the main character being one of those characters) and the cast bloat is once again an issue. Kai was definitely better than Daybreak 2, but holy fuck is it still paced like shit. I guess we'll just have to see next year if Falcom cares enough to finally release it.
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>>745214818
As of 2025 Blackrock owns shares in the company
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>>745219340
i dont why falcom insist on writing 100 characters who do nothing instead of 15-20 solid ones
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>>745214818
>there is big scary monsters
Those localizers really earn those paychecks, huh.
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>>745219646
the game was literally mtl'd
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I didn’t enjoy most of 3rd but I had an Estelle Joshua Schera and Olivier FC final party and it was kino since I played them all spaced a year apart
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>>745219683
The guy who translated the FC remake was an ETL
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damn people are THAT BORED with the FF games that they swarm to the trails games
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>>745214818
How do we kill Falcom for good? Why are they still going strong?
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>>745219545
They mostly accomplished this in both Sky and Crossbell, then kinda dropped the ball afterwards. Even some characters in Cold Steel and Daybreak are pretty solid, but the problem is that there's too many main cast members. I think they keep coming up with character designs or archetypes and rushing to insert it into the game instead of thinking about what the character actually adds to the story.

Or even worse, adding a million fucking side characters who get more character development than characters in the main party. It's fucking terrible.
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>>745216852
Shouldn't have made two filler games in a row
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>>745220014
Too many smug toons. If i played FC and 16 people were following Estelle around to say shit like
>hmmf, as expected of the sky pirates
>could that be....hmm. I'll have to look into this

I probably wouldn't have liked it much.
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>>745220014
What is the point of Elliot why is he even playable he has never contributed to anything
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>>745220474
it drives me crazy every time a plot reveal happens and half the characters are like
>(heh... it's just as i thought...)
THEN WHY THE FUCK DIDNT YOU SAY ANYTHING
and it happens every single time
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>>745214818
GUNG HO WON
PROPER FAITHFUL TRANSLATIONS WON
ESTELLE RESTORED
REMAKE A TOP HIT
NISA RAPED AND GAPED
XSNEED KILLED AND BEHEADED
OTAKU WON
TRANNIES LOST BIGLY
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Is kyoto xandu worth playing??
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>>745220858
its decent and has (loli) pantsu
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>>745220858
its very mid
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>>745216367
Azure was the most disappointing game in the series for me. It has like 2 good moments and the rest is probably the worst filler in the series short of CS4's Chapter 2. Crossbell is FUCKING BORING after 80 hours of chores in the same city and 2 towns. At least CS4 had good combat.
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>>745214818
>Lloydfags btfo
>Reanfags btfo
>Vanfags btfo

ESTELLE

Also, you "muh censorship" fags complaining about her spats in the remake have shit taste

IS

BESTELLE
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>>745216972
In Zero Crossbell was also new. And the cast was new. With Azure shit got real repetitive. People only think of the somewhat cool finale and even then Liber Ark was still better.

Crossbell is just the awkward middle child to me.
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>>745221126
>>745221274
I didn't feel this way at all with Azure. Azure is a constantly escalating nightmare for the SSS and that's why I found it so entertaining. Even the one time they get a break during the intermission, it was just to fuck with them further. There is constantly shit happening and it has some of the most exciting moments in the series for me.
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>>745217216
It was always shit and anyone buying nu-Falcom games is a retard.
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>>745220793
Sex with Tita won
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>>745221378
Maybe I'm just growing out of the series because things just didn't really hit for me. I remember SC had way more impact on me when I played it around a decade ago. Or maybe I'm just becoming too accustomed to Falcom's Falcom-isms and that's why the story just doesn't really peak for me anymore.

I still love the gameplay though. It's kinda like comfort food to me. Playing Daybreak right now and I'm having a pretty good time. But boy am I sick of "Our job here is done, our experiments were a success, I'm done playing around, next time I won't hold back "yada yada. Every time it happens my mind just goes more and more numb.
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>>745221452
Bro you have like 10 gacha installed on your phone can you stop talking.
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/v/ is the only place in the world Ive ever seen talk about trails
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I kinda liked Cold Steel 1 and 2 but dropped 3, it got way too generic anime for me without anything substantial really happening. Felt like low IQ "now here's the twist!" M Night Shamalamadingdong normie shit.

Would I like Sky?
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>>745214818
1st chapter is one of the most boring JRGPs that I've ever played. The gameplay is cool and all, but good lord the first three chapters made me want to fall asleep every 5 minutes. NOTHING happens.
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>>745221584
Projecting, Falcuck? Your shitty series might aswell be a prototype for gachas considering how similar they are to each other kek
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>>745221585
Wow so you're saying falcom big revenue growth is all because of /v/? Damn we based as fuck
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>>745221806
Okay zoomie.
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>>745221824
id believe it
you niggas have been shilling this series for as long as I can remember. like 10 years at this point.
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>>745221659
>Would I like Sky?
You like cold shit so probably no
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>>745221873
Zoomies love trailshit though
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>>745221581
If you're sick of that kind of stuff in Daybreak, it only gets more miserable in Daybreak 2 and Horizon. Those trends continue and it feels frustrating when nothing is answered and the protagonists stand around listening to the bad guys talk.
I still enjoy the gameplay, but there are so many fucking issues with the writing. Combined with the cast bloat and my problems with the pacing, it makes the Calvard arc my least favorite arc so far. Daybreak 1 is the one everyone thought was a great start.

If you're not sick of Trails by the time you're done with Daybreak 1, then playing Daybreak 2 might make you lose your mind. They tried to patch things up a bit with Horizon, but it's still just as stupid with its writing. There's good character moments thrown in but all the shitty cliches will still be there.
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>>745221889
I literally just said I grew tired of and disliked Cold Steel, are you being dumb on purpose anon
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>>745221883
fuck yeah the 20 guys on /fg/ saved the whole company
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>>745221989
You liked 1 and 2 you have permanent shit taste
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>>745221989
He's an inbred retard from /fg/ who's only gimmick is to call everyone a reanspic and cold shit lover, just ignore him
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>>745222089
You're retarded
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>>745221984
Oh I've heard the warnings about Daybreak 2. Part of me thinks I should finally take a break after Daybreak 1 (I was still at CS2 a year ago and have just been playing these since) but part of me also knows I won't be able to resist continuing on.

Surely the gameplay is still good?

On the writing; I honestly think the character writing can be pretty good at parts. It's the actual main plot that just can't resist falling back into the same old Falcom structure and whenever my brain notices the pattern it just numbs out and it takes me out of the experience and I can't take the story seriously anymore. Like what the fuck was that chapter 3. They REALLY thought we needed more of that stupid mind control mask dance off shit?
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Falcom won.
Square shit lost.
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>>745221581
yeah by the time i got to cs4/reverie/daybreak 1 i was just beyond done with the falcomisms
from what ive heard daybreak 2 and horizon are just more of the same shit and i just really cant be bothered anymore
these games will take 1000 words to just say absolutely nothing and the same scenarios just get repeated over and over and over again
i dont know how i played so many of them honestly
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>>745215298
Censored how?
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She won.
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>>745222232
>Surely the gameplay is still good?
Yeah it's pretty fun in Daybreak 2 and Horizon. Daybreak 2 was interesting since I made a full caster party in that and it just worked.

Horizon raised the difficulty a bit on Nightmare. While I was getting through most of the game just fine, the final boss did require me to use my brain a little bit. I wouldn't say he was a pushover at all, but that's mostly due to the game's mechanics making him actually tough. It was a nice surprise.

>mind control mask
Yeah it's a bad trope they keep falling back on. Characters will stand around uselessly, "smart" characters will never realize something is wrong before it's too late, characters will be merely pretending in various circumstances, and characters will have concerns or revelations but they won't tell anyone. It actually makes you want to strangle the writers.

At the very least, Falcom upped their game when it comes to the finale fights. I think every single one in this arc has been great.
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>>745216273
that was because of kato he died in 2024, the new head has talked about growing a bit more.
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>>745218174
Metal Fucking Max, bitch.
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>>745217123
they specifically said the delay from the remakes is helpful because the timelines were too short for things like daybreak 2 and for the final games they want to make sure they are very high quality and take longer to make them. i'd rather they take longer to make it but it's just better
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>>745223425
I'll believe that when I see it. I have no reason to believe at this point that Horizon 2 will have any more effort put into it than Daybreak 2 or Horizon.
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>>745223885
They specifically said for the final arc, not horizon 2 iirc. I think it is very hard to say daybreak 2 was not obviously rushed so correcting that does make sense
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>>745218174
The entire SaGa series + The Last Remnant.
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Excellent news!
For me, it's Towa.
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>>745216682
Clearly he was talking about Japanese Role Playing Gamers.
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I started with FC back in 2017 and played them in order until I finished CS4 in 2021 when it released on it, but I haven't played anything after since then and I haven't gotten the itch to get them yet, I enjoyed Ys(most of the series, haven't played 9 or 10 yet) , Tokyo Xanadu and Xanadu Next.

>>745214818
Remaking the starting point of a series will always get an influx of newfags, so there's no surprise here given that people are starved for JRPGS
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>>745219050
falcom games are niche as fuck
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>>745220014
>adding a million fucking side characters who get more character development than characters in the main party.
I thought Trails "fans" loved that shit?
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>>745221585
the JRPG subreddit loves it too
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I've been avoiding the Calvard games because the translation looks like the worst in the series.
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That's great. Now they could get rid of all the forced diversity and darkie wank in the daybreak games that didn't give them any good boy points
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>>745215563
Kinda.
Its more annoying that these localizers put in meme words and made up words that dont exist in english... i fucking hate it.

I hope second game has an option to direct japanese to english exact translations without memes n shit.
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>>745222705
It's just shitposting.
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>>745215069
>needing to show strangers on the internet how you feel about something
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>>745214818
Falcom are like the slurm monster in futurama, just shitting out remake of their games onto a conveyor belt while a bunch of little gronks stand around massaging its belly.
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>>745220793
>no consistency in the terms that have been used in the english translation for over a decade
>awkward and stilted dialog
>dub literally can't even pronounce liberl
>chuds unironically arguing for "faithful" ESL machine translations
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>>745221968
zoomies don't even play JRPGs, they're obsessed with gachas and hoyoslop.
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>>745230598
Only an idiot would be consistent with incorrect translations. Correcting shit like archaism for オーバーマペット is better late than never.
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>>745228471
kek
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>>745214818
They just killed the Falcom Music Channel for no good reason, so I don't care about whether they succeed or not.
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>>745214818
Estelle owes me sex.
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>>745214818
It helps that, unlike say Halo Studios where they hired people who hate Halo, Falcom hires people who love Falcom games.
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How are zoomtards reacting to the incestKino?
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Did they uncensor her panties yet?
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>>745234170
not blood related so not real incestkino
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>>745234272
No, why would they? Estelle wore spats under her skirt until SC. It's not censorship unless they pull that shit with the next game.
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>>745214818
>release accessible version of their series that is an actual entry point instead of random point in the middle of large overarching plot on multiple platforms including pc
>act surprised when theres actual results

old japanese men are retarded arent they
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>>745216852
They're padding their release schedule with easy to shit out remakes so that it can give them more time to work on the next Calvard game cause they want to make sure it's good this time.
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>>745230598
>>chuds unironically arguing for "faithful" ESL machine translations
its not the people's fault even botched MTL is more accurate than trannylators
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>>745234803
didn't the release of Zero and Ao on steam cut the fanfiction crap?
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>>745214818
I know the /fg/ schizo isn't since more crappy sequels to crappy nu-Trails is unlikely. This is still just recovering from one of their worst years ever and gives the wrong impression, though.
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>>745234667
>wanked game that tourists love because its not "weebslop" unlike how they attack CS onward gets a remake
>it does well
wow what a surprise
watch none of those fans be around by the time they remake calvard games because video essays dont wank those
>>745234906
not even fucking close, it only has gotten worse as time goes on
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>>745234906
No, not at all.
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>>745220858
Filler game just like the first one.
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>>745214818
Yes, Gungho ass raped the lolcowlizers and the troons are still seething about their quirk chungus tl getting nuked from orbit. I pre ordered 2nd chapter because 1st chapter was a good remake.
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>>745235710
New translation still sucks in some parts.
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>>745217473
Couldn't be me. I am 15 games in and have yet to play a bad Trails game.

>>745217915
So you're not a Trails fan
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>>745235896
I'll take this any day of the week over the troonslation we used to get. Can't believe I still see queers throwing tantrums over gungho.
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>>745214818
I didn't like the remake, but I'm glad it's introduced more players to TitS
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>>745235991
Don't get me wrong: it's better the majority of the time. For some reason the Zeiss chapter in particular got the lion's share of bad translation.
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>>745235991
It's crazy that shitty l*calizer fanfic translations are always clowned on, but for some reason there's a set of hardcore contrarians for Trails specifically who defend them like they're OK
I don't think any other series has this. Old FF "translations" maybe?
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>>745235862
Least delusional Crossbellfag
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>>745236105
>I don't think any other series has this.
Dragon Quest.
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>>745236105
Because Skyfags are literally incapable of admitting to any faults with Sky, even if it's the god awful fanfiction localization.
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>>745236618
I never played the original but the remake is kino and I won't admit any faults with it. I'm the new generation of Skyfag I guess.
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>>745215928
never played this or know what it is but ive fapped to that tanned chick
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>>745236717
That's not a tan.
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>>745236717
It's Scherazard. (no not charizard)
The screenshot is actually modded, she has some mods that just make her outfit a little bit skimpier which I prefer to full blown nude mods
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>releases Sky 1st remake and finally has a game with big JRPG pull in the West
>FUD concern all Falcom games will be run through Californian consultants to be suitable for Western audiences from now on
>immediately follows it up with the most otaku pandery JRPG in years and makes it JP exclusive
Kneel.
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>>745235862
HAHA intensifies (but no really, the Cold Steel games are all good and if you hate them youre lame)
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[uplifting news]
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>>745236871
Kyoto Xanadu will come to the west eventually.
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>>745236871
>makes it JP exclusive
What? It's just not releasing simultaneously. KX is going to hit the west eventually.
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>>745236871
I've literally never seen anyone talk about this. Did it end up being as horrendously dog shit as Tokyo Xanadu was?
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>>745236934
theres a fan tl/mtl out for it but im hesitant to buy the japanese version cause i know the western version will eventually come out and i would want to get the achievements for that
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>>745237038
The characters are a million times better but it's way too long for how simplistic the gameplay is. Also it's a First Chapter game, they plant a bunch of plot seeds especially at the end to set up for a sequel.
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>>745237227
I wonder if it'll be another long running series like Kiseki. I do hope if they do plan on making it one they don't go for as ambitious a series as Kiseki this time. Like limit it to just 2-3 games at most and leave it there.
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>>745236871
>>745237227
>loli pantsu
>in 2026
WTF I thought this was verboten!
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>>745237317
Xanadu's been ongoing since 1985. It's just that they started shitting out bad Persona clones instead of good JRPGs.
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>>745237560
I meant in the sense of it being a single long running continuous story
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>>745237227
Did KX copy the Cold Steel dating sim shit where you can pick a love interest or did it go for what TX did and basically shipped everyone off with each other so the MC had a more focused romance?
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>>745237760
Never gonna happen, and that's for the best.
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>>745237920
I'd hope so. Surely Falcom must realize that making 10+ games in a single story and trying to tie everything together is just too difficult and will result in a lower quality product. Falcom are really good at making mini series arcs but they always fumble the deeper connectivity. Like I personally think the first 3 Kiseki arcs are all really good in a vaccuum, even Cold Steel. They just shit the bed when trying to connect to the other arcs. It's honestly the biggest reason why Sky is the best cause it doesn't have anything to reference before it.
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>>745238026
I feel the exact same way. The writing is at its worst when it brings up older characters.
>OH THIS NEW GUY IS JUST LIKE X!! THEY'RE JUST AS SKILLED/TWISTED/EVIL, MAYBE EVEN MORE
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I like solo one off adventures
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>>745238098
>posts the game that is literally nonstop references to past games
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>>745238145
I really liked that design.
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>>745221968
They love Rean low IQ anime of the week slop. They can't even begin to process the actual attention to detail and world building of the Sky series.
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>>745238231
9's his current oldest iteration right?
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>>745214818
how much of this was from estelle specifically?
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>>745238094
Yeah the writers never allowing past arc characters to have any conflict with new arc characters is insufferable. It's why you get characters meeting and then just spending 20 minutes sucking each other's dicks in a circle about how cool and awesome everyone is cause god forbid 2 characters actually not get along.
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>>745237527
Nice JC pantsu to peruse as well
>>745237884
It's technically a harem game (the only other guy in the party shares the same body with his twin sister, they use some currently unexplained magic to swap forms) and the rest of the party is MC and other females. Even the guest party characters (pic is one) they teased as obviously joining the party in the sequel were all females. All of them get flustered when they see other females getting too close to him. That said the MC is a charismatic, smooth talking playboy, to the point where it was kind of a topic on JP twitter that they aren't used to this kind of protagonist for this setting.
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>>745238265
The world building is at it's most simplistic and shallow in Sky and it's where it's the worst in the series. Make it less obvious you've never played a single non Sky game next time.
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>>745238434
>That said the MC is a charismatic, smooth talking playboy, to the point where it was kind of a topic on JP twitter that they aren't used to this kind of protagonist for this setting.
Well I'll take that over the shy, stuttering bland self insert protagonist Japs usually love writing. Sounds like an interesting game. Can't wait for it to get localized. Hopefully before they release another game in JP.
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>>745238276
Yes, at age 24. In Ys X at the end of the game you can read a store which puts you in the shoes of 63 year old Adol before he goes to the North Pole and dies.
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>>745214818
Yes because it means they won't go bankrupt as a company and will hopefully finish the series so i can finally die. Unless it gets stuck in remake hell instead of also pushing towards the finish then I will be cursed to walk this earth longer.
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>>745238435
Sure Rean tranny. Go back to fighting your demon self from the nega realm.
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>>745238661
I really don't see them remaking anything after Crossbell so you've at most got 2-3 remakes left depending on whether or not they skip 3rd.
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>>745238750
Proving my point. You faggots are the biggest larpers.
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>>745214818
Anything that hurts nisa heals me
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Should I bother with this? I've read Falcom has a weird stance on the jewish values.
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>>745238918
Amusingly the nanosecond NIS realized they aren't getting kept alive by Falcom via NISA anymore they immediately locked in and made a game that became their best selling in Japan in like 10 days.
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>>745217123
this >>745217398 and this>>745217473
unlike FFfags, DQfags or Personafags, Kisekifags cannot self-segregate because it is all one continuous story. And like with anything else humans experience, you don't love every part of that story equally.
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>>745217398
I too love making up fake scenarios in my head to get mad at.
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>>745239741
I mean achtually persona after 3 is one consecutive world. The other characters are aging and going through their own stuff.
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>>745238435
Makes it even funnier that most of the shit introduced in Sky gets retconned.
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>>745214818
485% of $1 profit is not that big a deal so I don't see why it should bother anyone
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>>745239190
Music to my ears. Decades in the making for them to realize they were being sabotaged
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>>745214818
We are
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>>745236904
i love shitting on them
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>>745239741
Nah I think most people just get burnt out and then try and blame the quality as a justification to stop playing because it makes them feel better when it's the game's fault that they stopped playing and not their lacking motivation. I played through every single game in the span of like 2-3 years and I can assure you you cannot drastically like one more than others cause they are all the same shit. You can tell I'm right too since it's always people's first arc that is the good ones and every later arc is the bad ones. You see this with Skyfags starting with Sky and with Coldsteelfags starting with Coldsteel and everything in between. There's no difference in quality and preference it's 100% people just getting burnt out on the series.
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>>745238284
100%
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>>745239872
and yet, only a reanspic wuold get mad at the fact that they've been made fun of in /fg/ for 10 years
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>>745240598
This is exactly the kind of response someone who makes up fake scenarios in his head to get mad at would make.
>/fg/
Why am I not surprised. You've breaching /vg/ containment, nobody cares about your schizo drama with your schizo buddies. Go back.
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>>745236105
>I don't think any other series has this. Old FF "translations" maybe?
Basically literally all mayor JRPG franchises, including persona, FE and xenoblade, but it's basically all JP games at this point.
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>>745236965
at the rate westoids are devolving they will probably ban all jp media in muttland by the time falcom gets KX localized
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>>745238094
This is just bad manga writing honestly. Plenty of shonen slop has this kind of thing all the time, sometimes in comically rapid succession where one jobber falls to another jobber who falls to another.
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>>745237227
>The characters are a million times better but it's way too long for how simplistic the gameplay is
Honestly I miss that kind of content-rich game which is GAMEplay oriented but without sacrificing the story, just not making it the focal point.
The last one standing in this category was disgaea and only due to post-game content.
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>>745240346
Estelle... why are you smiling at Olivier like that...?
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>>745237227
This sounds right up my alley honestly. The biggest reason why I much prefer Cold Steel and Daybreak as arcs to Sky and Crossbell is because of how long they are. I like the comfy SOL in these games.
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>>745238539
>the shy, stuttering bland self insert protagonist Japs usually love writing.
do you only ever watch/read older millennial battle harem slop before the isekai era and modern parodyslop/subvertslop like konosuba/rezero/overlord or something?
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>>745241119
I was talking specifically about the context of harem protagonists here not JP protagonists in totality.
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>>745239190
>USAID japan-sabotage money dries up because israel is running out of money in their infinite money well.
>A decade and half of damage to JP media gets 80% undone in less than a single fucking year.
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>>745214818
Do you think they'll pussy out and remove the Renne's Star Door stuff from Sky 3 if they remake it?
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>>745239741
Self-segregation straight up does not work, fire emblem has mostly self-contained stories, with at most games being duologies, and kaga dignidadfags and 3H+FW persona tourists constantly try to dominate discourse so IS panders to them and them only while eliminating the "weebshit" elements.
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>>745238754
CS 1 and 2 have aged like shit.
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>>745240598
who would feel bad about a board of literal indian jannies and paid shitposters making fun of them? did you not see the leaks?
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>>745240920
I don't read enough shonen shit to pick up on it.
Stuff like this is groan inducing.
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>>745241486
They don't feel any different from 3-4 to me. What parts do you think have ages poorly beyond some poor visuals?
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>>745240920
That's old dynamics, newer shonen pacing is way too fast to ever reach a point where "the old guard" is constantly referenced and wanked by the newfags within the plot.
The most you get is one of the earlier strong characters getting wanked to hell and back like gojo or sukuna in JJK but the story will end before there's even a new guard or generation change in the first place.
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>>745241548
The classic example is Dragon Ball. Every arc someone will remark "he's even stronger than [previous strong guy]!" Basically from the first tournament arc all the way to the end of Dragon Ball Super this keeps happening, until it reaches absurd cosmic levels and they have to introduce an omnipotent god character who's basically powerman so nobody can outscale him.
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>>745241205
they won't remove it but they'll do a fade to black and only voice it
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>>745241184
Amusingly enough if it's isekai harem protags specifically, they are in fact 50% playboys and 50% accidental gigachads that end up learning by trial and error how handle foids, and 99% of them fuck, 80% of them by the first 3 volumes (season 1 content), it just gets censored into fetus friendly narratives for the chinks.
It's only romcom niggers and older "battle harem" groids (and their modern "kicked from the party" counterpart) that tend to be inept with romance and not even allowed a relationship proper with their orbiters by the narrative.
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>>745240756
this image >>745235862, the reandown, the cs3 copypasta all prove you wrong, but using logic with a retarded mouthbreathing reanspic is a waste of time.
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>>745241601
the janky visuals
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>>745241814
I'm not sure how any of those prove me wrong, or even what I said that COULD be proven wrong in the first place but you're a schizophrenic so I never expected a coherent response in the first place.
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>>745241783
I haven't read many isekai so my experience is still with the early 2000s battle harem stuff so maybe this is just a similar case of how Kiseki gradually evolved to embody newer and newer anime tropes as the series went on and this is just the next step in that shifting trend and it's not the unique and out there choice I thought it was but simply Falcom doing what they always do.
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>>745242003
>to embody newer and newer anime tropes
>anime tropes
yeah that's the thing, you're making the classic problem of conflating the original LN/VN writing with the anime/manga adaptations
and to be fair, i don't blame you, most of the time falcom is doing the same anyway and taking the anime/manga ironic weeb slop as the original
this is why sky reads like a le mature battle harem from the millennial era and gets wanked and why for them the rean saga feels like "native isekai" and they hate it thanks to their favourite jewtuber and/or social media hugbox telling them to hate those "tropes"
frankly thinking of stories as "tropes" has to be the greatest move jews have pulled so far on the general populace, it basically kills your ability to enjoy anything and turns you into a conceptual zombie constantly trying to convert everyone else
> and this is just the next step in that shifting trend and it's not the unique and out there choice I thought it was but simply Falcom doing what they always do.
kind of yes and no, it's them shifting into actually following nicher LN/VN narrative structures and MC writing with KX, meanwhile sky and calvard are written like shounenslop for edgy teenagers that feel smarter than they are and wank "soft seinen" like FMA, berserk, HxH, etc
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>>745241548
Red pills son.
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>>745241881
>fake scenarios
no matter where he goes, a reanspic cannot help but try and defend his dogshit's arc honor and fail miserably at doing so
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The og translation was fun
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>>745242307
>this is why sky reads like a le mature battle harem from the millennial era and gets wanked and why for them the rean saga feels like "native isekai" and they hate it thanks to their favourite jewtuber and/or social media hugbox telling them to hate those "tropes"
Well I've never really seen Kiseki being "tropey" as being a negative and I've also never really seen a difference in degree of how "tropey" the arcs are with Sky being just as much as Cold Steel in how much they lend from media.
>kind of yes and no, it's them shifting into actually following nicher LN/VN narrative structures and MC writing with KX, meanwhile sky and calvard are written like shounenslop for edgy teenagers that feel smarter than they are and wank "soft seinen" like FMA, berserk, HxH, etc
This sounds right up my alley then since this is a controversial take here but Cold Steel is my favourite arc in the series and the biggest reason it is my favourite is because of how unabashed it is in sticking to the formula. I like how unpretentious it is in it's love for the tropes it is portraying and feels like it isn't trying to be more than it is. It was cheesy and over the top in the best way possible. I like Rean unironically for that reason. He's a fun protagonist.
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>>745242450
lmao nigga what the fuck are you talking about haha. Get a grip.
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>>745242693
>Well I've never really seen Kiseki being "tropey" as being a negative and I've also never really seen a difference in degree of how "tropey" the arcs are with Sky being just as much as Cold Steel in how much they lend from media.
NTA but that framework does in fact fundamentally change how you see/experience media on such an intrinsic level you may go your whole life without noticing it.
Long story short, it will make you see it as individual aspects instead of a holistic thing, and I don't mean seeing it as a complete story all at once, I mean you will see and focus on specific aspects far more than necessary while missing the forest for the trees.
It is a spectrum instead of a binary thing, and you do sound like you're on the lower end of the infection (for now) but it's still something critical to have in mind, at it's worst people start complaining about how X action is incredibly tropey and cliche while not being able to actually bring up a similar example, and instead just simply hallucinating said examples from the brainrot soup like an AIslop model from hearing them from memes and shitposts about what people claim something is instead of actually experiencing it.
And a lot of those "stereotypes" may also have been literal westoid gubmint propaganda to devalue and denigrate JP media so it wouldn't overtake western media on their home turf, but nobody is ready to have that conversation.
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>>745242992
I don't tend to think too deeply about it. My view is very simple. I just ask if I'm having fun or not, whether it's an original idea or an idea that's done to death, execution is more important and for an entertainment product if I experience it and I'm entertained then that's all it needs to be. It's why I don't rate Sky has high as most people I just found it to be a lot more bland.
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>>745217123
I'm celebrating the fact that good games (Trails in the Sky) sell well while shit games (Daybreak/Horizon) flop. Hopefully falcom learns something from this.
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SEVEN. DOLLARS.
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>>745217123
Falcom's new games fucking suck. That's why. The latest Xanadu bombed and is already forgotten.
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>>745243693
>Xanadu bombed
No it didn't
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Cold Steel remakes when?
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>>745243815
Sold 32,022 total in its second week before ranking out this last week. It bombed.

https://www.famitsu.com/ranking/game-sales/last-week

https://www.famitsu.com/ranking/game-sales
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No clue if anybody had a similar experience, but I played ended up playing the Crossbell & Coldsteel games like a madman all the way through 4 a years ago. I always chose nightmare difficulty so the game would have a bit of bite in combat instead of being piss easy. I picked up Hajimari soon afterwards and that's where I've pretty much put the series on hold. I ended up getting really annoyed by the cast bloat and how it played into my quartz setups in that game. I found myself removing quartz setups whenever switching between the casts and I just got tired of it. Petty reason I'd say, but it was that combined with burnout.
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>>745243478
Zero dollars :^)
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>>745244564
>I ended up getting really annoyed by the cast bloat and how it played into my quartz setups in that game.
Nah that was basically my biggest issue with Hajimari too. I just ended up sticking to the same characters for the entire game cause swapping shit out was such a pain in the ass.
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>>745214818
Bring back Brandish you cowards!
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>>745244805
It makes sense that others would have similar experiences. Could have been saved if they created a setting for saving orbment setups that would allow you to swap with 1-2 prompts at most rather than having to do it all manually.
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I'm playing Trails of Cold Steel saga... Long ass game but I'm doing it for Fie, even if i'm just at chapter 3
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>>745244312
anon, its a literal who series which hadn't gotten a new entry in a long time
its also not AAAslop like faglus slop, its a falcom budget game, it made its budget back in 10k sales
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>>745238568
I think he technically just goes missing.
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>>745216552
yes. AAAA devs seethe at this one simple trick.
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fact: falcom could sell more games now leaning into dark fantasy xanadu next vibes more than more anime slop
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>>745238265
>implying Skyshit wasn't low IQ anime of the week slop of it's time
Delulu post but that's expected from Kisekiddies, thinking that their generic shonenshit was ever special



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