- game intro starts in the coastal city of Sentinel, which is occupied by the Forebears.- youre a prisoner in a dungeon. You can look out your windows and see a large city looking out towards the coast. Has a very Kings Landing vibe.- another prisoner in the cell across from you asks you questions (where you decide all your character traits, background, and class)- During the night, Sentinel is hit by a coastal siege by the Crowns. They are looking for someone- a battle erupts from outside the walls of your cell (very similar to the first pirates of the Caribbean film when jack is in jail).- an explosive blasts open the wall into your cell. The Crowns are in Sentinel for you (they think youre the "prophesied hero" trope that will help them win the war they are in. - Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one. They actually grabbed the wrong prisoner.- Throughout most of the game it's assumed you are the one prophesied, until a late game discovery reveals the person that was in the cell across from you was the one they meant to grab in the beginning. - a choice you make later in the game allows you to meet/free the real one that was prophesied (they remain in the cell in Sentinel for the entire game if you end up siding with the Forebears and will have almost no role unless you side with the Crowns. )
>>745219006The Elder Scrolls VI: Fentinel
>>745219006Wow, great use of old, already done ideas and absolutely nothing new or interesting whatsoever. A true Bethesda classic.
>>745219518you do realise its just his hatefic?
>>745219006I will do you one bettershit starts in High Rock, you're captured by pirates, the imperials pay your ransom, you can pursue the pirates if you want but you're indebted to your rescuers, they're doing imperial shit and you can help or fuck off for 100 hours, Elder Scrolls
>>745219281fippy
>>745219006It's not gonna be called "SIX SENTINEL" you fucking imbecile because that would be almost as hard to pronounce as Demon's Souls which only exists because of retarded ESL japs.
>>745221224Six Seven is the most viral meme of all time
>>745219006>caring about a game that wont be a complete experience for almost a decade with its inevitable dlc, updates that break mods, having to wait for mods & dlc to be stablePlease consider killing yourself faggot
>>745221224you sound extremely autistic, people will just call it sentinel like every other entry, what the fuck are we talking about here
Would rather be a peasant working for my generous local lord only to discover my father is a High Elf from Cyrodiil and my mother was a princess making me nth in line to the throne.A bunch of Orkz attack my hometown and nearby cities, I collect a bunch of misifts and save the world.
>>745219006>Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen oneYou dumb schizo tourist.The only games where you're a hero of prophecy are Morrowind and Skyrim.In Arena you're just a random guy.In Daggerfall you're one of Emperor's trusted agents.In Oblivion you are just another guy that the Emperor happened to see in his dreams, not because you're a big shot but because you're the guy who's going to aid his son Martin Septim the Dragonborn, who actually defeats Mehrunes Dagon and closes the Oblivion gates forever.And while we're at it, Morrowind PC being a legendary hero is also dubious since the way Azura's prophecy works is that you "become" the hero by fulfilling the prophecy, you're not literally destined from birth. So it's a chicken or egg kind of shit. There are stories about Failed Nerevarines and such.
>>745219006Did'nt the Crown and Forebears reconciliate during the Great War to kick the Talmor's ass ?
>>745219006>AI slop imagefaggot
>>745219006>another prisoner in the cell across from you asks you questions (where you decide all your character traits, background, and class) >Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one. They actually grabbed the wrong prisoner. Breaks the lore. Next
the chosen one subversion already happened in morrowind THOUGH
>>745219281SHIEEEEEEETTTT
>>745219006Game actually starts in a mining in Alik'r, optional tutorial section meant to be skipped on subsequent playthroughs. You go into the mines, fight your way through goblins, and then when you reach a piece of Numidium triggering a big magic explosion that frees you and starts the story of the main game.
>>745224390>Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one.In both Oblivion and Daggerfall you were just some guy, your critique is stupid.
>>745219006But I don't want nigger scrolls
>game won't be out for atleast 2 years>will release into EA>won't be playable for another year>will need to wait no less than 6 months to fix all the issues that are still thereWho even fucking cares?
>>745219281
>>745219281kek fpbp
>>745219006Didn't the Crowns and Forebears literally JUST reconcile after the Thalmor invasions? Why would they be feuding with each other again, especially after Hammerfell just went through war and partial ruin and what role do the Thalmor have in the game?
>>745219006Why are you pretending to leak a game that won't be out until 2030?
>>745225256Me, I care
>>745225031Hahah
>>745225031TESVI: Starfall
>>745219006>- Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one. They actually grabbed the wrong prisoner.Yeah just like oblivionRetard
>>745221224>demons souls is hard to pronounceI think youre just retarded
>>745219006>"HULLO, SAAR!" the pitch-black prison guard shrieks, muslimfully, "ARE YOU DE BODY TYPE A, OR DE BODY TYPE B?"
>>745220257It’s also more creative than what we’ll get.
Cool idea but if we aren’t some sort of chosen one we won’t get any unique power that makes sense to replace shouts.
>>745227810One of the reasons it was always predicted to be Hammerfell is because sword singing is an obvious gimmick, like the Th'um going back to Morrowindhttps://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sword-singers
>>745227394Insh'Ruptga, brother. I have body type A but feel like body type B. WRuptga, I will be departing this prison and heading to the land of the white men to learn alteration magic and correct this grave error. I hear the Bretons of High Rock are quite wealthy, perhaps a noble family will disperse some tax money to fund my endeavor.
>>745219006>Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one.You weren't the chosen one in Arena and Daggerfall, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the chosen one in Oblivion Martin Septim?
>>745219281lel
>>745219006who cares, 99% of the game will be modded out
>>745228159Correct on all three accounts.
>>745223960>that the Emperor happened to see in his dreamsSo chosen one shit.
>>745227930A gimmick that might be in the game but doesn’t replace thum because it can’t be used with every build. You can’t sword sing a bow, spells etc.
>>745223960>and closes the Oblivion gates forever.Except not really thanks to the creation club. Hell even Shivering Isles retconned that almost immediately
>>745228770>You can’t sword sing a bow, spells etc.Why not? The strongest sword singers can also materialize spirit weapons out of thin air. The only reason its only done with swords is because the Redguards are sword autists
>>745227930>>745228852But wont this make bound weapon useless?
>>745228852Fair enough, the player character will probably be some special sword singer anyway who can sing better then anyone else.
>>745228948They could implement a gimmick that differentiates itself from a normal weapon you equip
My predictions The good>Kino naval battles >great exploration by boat >Ship customisation The bad>No diving or underwater >essential crew members that you can't get rid of >Preston 2.0>Exploration on land will be shit because vast empty landscapes are procgen>Most essential NPCs of any Bethesda gameThe ugly >The NPCs of course
>>745228948I mean they already made bound weapon worthless in Skyrim especially with no spell making and also limiting it to like 3 weapon types
>>745229318I cannot fathom making a game with ships but not having underwater exploration. Based on that one Bethesda employee's leaked pinterest there is a great focus on sardine fish swarms and so on. So there must be a lot of focus on the aquatic.
>>745229318Nothing is going to be procgen retard. I more worried about too much focus on base building shit like fallout 4. Bet you will have your own castle on a hideout you can customise like smugglers cave from Oblivion.
>>745225115The emperor was literally seeing John Oblivion in his prophetic dreams, the entire reason the Oblivion crisis is even ended is because he gives you the player character the amulet of kings because of explicit prophecy
>>745229396I'm glad I saved that one Beth employees page now because he later privated it.
>>745229557True, but Martin is the one who mantles Akatosh and ascends to godhood
>>745229569And this was earlier this year.
>>745229569>50% of the npcs redguards like Skyrim being 50% Nord.Not hyped. I actually have nothing against Redguards I just can’t see our modern era not do some cringe virtue signaling.
>>745229569>>745229658Wish we got Black Marsh instead of Highrock. It’s sure fire the next location for ES7 but that’s like either never or 20 years away.
>>745229971Humans and mer literally can't survive in most of black marsh
>>745230003Easy retcon to The Hist suddenly allowing Mer and Men in because reason.
>>745229318>Kino naval battles>great exploration by boat>Ship customisationI agreeWhat I worry about, however, is that Bethesda still hasn't figured out how to make ship gameplay seamless. By that I mean, that the player can enter the both, start steering the boat out of the dock, anchor the boat at any time and dive off. I fear that the ship gameplay will look like:>walk up to helm and press X to leave shore>loading screen>boat appears on water tile #249 in the middle of the ocean>invisible walls around the boat basedou can never jump off the sides>There is a cage on the boat you can press X to interact with that triggers a loading screen and drops you underwater (underwater areas are procgen)>If you approach the city, press X to dock>loading screen>transported to docks>No diving or underwaterDoubt. ESO is coming out with the High Seas event which has underwater exploration (apparently you use some kind of magic to create an air bubble around you, allowing you to walk on the ocean floor). I'm 100% convinced the entire reason they're suddenly introducing sailing, naval battles, water serpents, and underwater exploration into ESO is because of TESVI and code/lore/game mechanics exchange between the two teams.>essential crew members that you can't get rid ofStarfield didn't do this, so it's unlikely TESVI will, EXCEPT during particular parts in the story. There are certain times in Starfield where you couldn't dismiss your companion, and I'm sure it'll be the same. But it's mostly untrue.>Exploration on land will be shit because vast empty landscapes are procgenThey already said that the landscape won't be procgen in the traditional sense, and will be a classic hand-crafted TES game.>Most essential NPCs of any Bethesda gameProbably. I don't think Bethesda will ever stop doing this despite overwhelming fan desire for it.>The NPCs of courseI pray to God they design nice looking NPCs for once. But it's Bethesda we're talking about.
>>745230128Its not the Hist that makes Black March inhospitable to foreigners
>>745229540Literally every Bethesda game used procgen you absolute Troglodyte. Well, maybe Redguard and battlespire but the big open world games all use it. Do you really think that every rock and bushel of grass was hand placed in Skyrim? You can even find the occasional floating tree or rock whenever procgen fucked up.
>>745229396ESO High Seas Event which introduces ships, naval battles, and sea monsters also has deep sea exploration.It seems to include some kind of air bubble that surrounds the player and allows them to walk on the ocean floor.
>>745230206Now it is.
>>745229971We'lp get Black Marsh in 2030s when Tamriel Rebuilt is done with Morrowind.
>>745219006>Throughout most of the game it's assumed you are the one prophesiedyou're only prophesied in morrowind and oblivion you secondary
>>745230310That would be retarded
>>745230373Much is.
I know it’s early but DLC theme predictions? Assuming one is new areas added to current map and the other being a new area like Shivering Isles or Solstheim.
>>745230526Stros M'Kai or Orsinium seems like a likely option for DLC.Second DLC will be about Clavicus Vile and Todd will reprise his VA role as him, both because it is his favorite daedric prince and he voice acted him in Redguard but also because it is his last Elder Scrolls game.
>>745230324TR tends to stick to written pre-skyrim lore and ignores ESO lore, so going by the PGE they also probably would not make most of black marsh playable as PGE 3rd edition says most of it is poisonous and uninhabitable to non argonians
>>745230221As long as it isn’t literally reused building,locations and assets like starfield I won’t mind.
>>745229658The game will look pretty and may even run better than Starfield with Xbox on their case, but anything below surface level like dungeons and side quests will be brushed aside in favor of graphics and basebuilding or some bullshit and redditors will love it.
>>745219281LOL/thread
>>745230649I think Stros M'Kai is definitely going to be in the main game, especially if we have sailing. >>745230526Orsinium could be DLC like the other anon said. I also think High Isle is a likely candidate. It's far enough away and to big to be feasible for the base game, especially if the base game is Hammerfell + High Rock. And High Isle would be really cool in the sense that it has its own semi-isolate Breton culture that feels Meditereanean.Besides that I could see a return to a Daedric realm like the Shivering Isles or somewhere in Skyrim to play on nostalgia.
>>745219006>Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one.You weren't the chosen one in Daggerfall. You were a nameless non descriptive agent of the Emperior
>>745219281>fentinel
>>745230143I doubt that loading screens are going to be that bad. Starfield was that bad because you could create absolute massive ships with dozens of extremely overdesigned rooms. A wooden ship is way easier to design for you know the limits for it. There are two ways I can see it.>Interior loading screens Everything else is seamless but there's a loading screen to enter the inside area >Completely seamless Similar to settlements in fo4 you'll have a limit of how much you can place. I'll also predict that the harbours will be surprisingly minimalistic and empty and a bit away from the city so it doesn't have to load everything at once
>>745229318>suddenly no diving when every Bethesda game has itYou people are so strange
>people unironically except TESVI to be good>after Fallout 4>after F76>after Starfield, the supposed greatest dream game of Toddfool me once...fool me twice...
>>745231259I'm willing to give it a chance since Emil was lead dev on Fallout 4, 76, and Starfield and he's not for TES VI.
>>745231259>after Fallout 4Fallout 4 was great. It's only hated by New Vegas trannies because "Bethesda bad"
>>745231412What is Emil now?
>>745231413>Fallout 4 was greatIt definitely was not.
will the NPCs still all have creepy googly eyes?
>>745231521Probably quest designer like he usually is for TES unless he's not working on it at all. I'm sure he's lead dev for F5
>>745231413It's as shallow as a puddle and as wide as a lake
>>745231259I didn't expect any of those games to be good though, and especially after the F76 launch following the TES teaser in 2018, I completely gave up on TESVI and Bethesda. But now, knowing what I know about its development, I have pretty mid-to-high hopes. And I think Asha putting their asses to the fire and decluttering the bureaucratic mess is only going to improve it.What I expect:>Mechanically/Gameplay-wise the best TES game with a variety of new systems (sailing/stronghold/best combat/plenty of AI systems interacting with each other)>Writing better than Oblivion and Skyrim but worse than Morrowind>More RPG-like than Skyrim, less RPG-like than Oblivion/Morrowind>continuous, detailed world — largest map to date but still full of quality content>Guilds more like Oblivion than Skyrim>Sword singing>Main story tied to Thalmor (large naval battles)>Sea monsters>Writing that's probably too safe and run through an HR filter>A lot of these ideas sounding better on paper than they feel in execution (which will be awkward and clunky and stiff at times) — but still the best TES game as a full package
>>745231413Fallout 4 is and was very mid.
>>745231259It they basically just remake Skyrim I will be reasonably happy. The biggest question will be how much they lean into the cinematic bullshit that has been plaguing a lot of their recent games.Bethesda can't write dialogue, animate or program. Why they think anyone would enjoy watching some badly animated mannequins wobble around and get stuck in the wall while acting out an elementary school play is beyond me. It started getting bad in Skyrim, but straight up unbearable in F4 and Starfield. Playing Oblivion Remastered really made me remember how much more enjoyable questing used to be in their older games.
>>745232001Dawnguard marked the beginning of Bethesda trying to write actual characters. They haven't cracked it yet.
What race you playing boys? Gotta go dark elf I think.
>>745232001>the cinematic bullshitLike what?
>>745231838>Mechanically/Gameplay-wise the best TES game with a variety of new systemsTo be fair. Starfield leaned in that stuff too, which sounded great on paper, but what we got was utter meaningless and had no impact on the game.Like they managed to make building settlements worse than in F4, so you know sailing will just be Starships on water, but somehow even worse.
>>745232139Pretty cool
>>745232204Altmer, my bro.
>>745232204Would be easier to say what I'm definitely not making: Altmer, Bosmer, Argonian, BretonUsually play an Orc, Nord, Redguard or Kahjiit. Used to dismiss Kahjiit as furry garbage but the ESO expansions in Elsweyr changed my mind
>>745232001The scene in Skyrim where you watch the old Dragonborn fight Alduin is so fucking funny because the Creation Engine cannot into cutscenes. Its like watching a middle school play where everyone keeps forgetting their cues and lines
>>745231707And? Not every game needs to be a deep exploration of the human condition. At least it's a competent survival game. Better than being a simplistic RPG and nothing else like 3 and NV.
>>745231838>>745232001you're going to get even more shallow, casual, master-of-all-guilds and dumbed down Skyrim and you will be happy
Heh, welcome to the Thieves Guild here in Tamriel, kid. You must have some guts if you were willing to find us here. We aren't to be messed with, kid. We're the baddest bunch of thieves you ever laid eyes on. I think I've taken a liking to you, kid. How about you join with us, and run a few errands? In fact, no, I've seen enough, I think you should be our new guildmaster.
>>745232001I think a common complaint they get, however, is that their NPCs are all quite stiff.There was a scene in Starfield's Shattered Space DLC that stood out to me as particularly uncharacteristic of Bethesda that I was actually impressed by — a duel between two brothershttps://youtu.be/SFqqCL5oddg?si=n0CV-P7gQ-8-HqJk&t=893Though Starfield and Shattered Space weren't particularly great, I think more of these unique animations/events would benefit TESVI greatly, rather than everyone either being stiff or enter "battle mode" which gets samey very quickly.
>>745232204Breton, easily Breton.I don't play as kn*fe ears or, God forbid, Beast races.(I will boast about my 1% elf bloodline when convenient however)
>>745232538>I've got a test for you>Oh, you've completely failed and got arrested >At least you tried>There's another test I've got for you before you can join>Ive go 3 targets that own us money>Don't forget that we don't kill people >Oh... you've killed them all...>Welcome to the thieves guild
>>745232219Pretty much anything that involves more than two characters. So many quests just devolve into you standing around listening to two people talk because that's all they can do with their shitty limited skills and engine.It almost never feels like you are actually interact with anything yourself. Like at least with stuff like Witcher 3 or whatever Geralt is a part of the conversation. Not just a glorified mute bodyguard. It's just: >watch people stand around and talk >go raid dungeon that might as well have been a random bounty quests>get to boss room>watch people stand around and talk>kill boss>return to original location and watch people stand around and talk
>>745232835You can headcanon this by saying the guild was so hard up and falling on bad times thanks to the Nocturnal curse that they were willing to induct anybody.
>>745219006I honestly dont care about chosen one stuff or not, i just dont like it being thrust upon you like its some urgent thing which make me need to pretend i didnt see it in order to start roleplaying something else. yes i realize this is autistic.>Oblivion: The emperor himself gives you an amulet, you need to deliver it to prevent fantasy hell from spilling over>skyrim: dragons are attacking, you need to warn the town! then you need to fight a dragon!too urgent>morrowind: You have some weird dream then you are released from prison and told to deliver a package to a guy who tells you about tutorial NPCs. once you deliver the package the guy tells you to fuck off and go get a job.perfect
>>745232441You can be "master of all guilds" in Oblivion too. Skyrim probably had, arguably, more exclusivity because you were forced to make a choice between the Stormcloaks or the Empire. Oblivitards seems to be okay with that in Oblivion.Only Morrowind had true guild exclusivity.
>>745232918kek true but this is definitely how TESVI is going to be
>>745232538Maybe this time the thieves guild will be actual thieves and not just some generic street gang>help me plant some evidence>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me with my protection racket >okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me do some vandalism to settle a score>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me sabotage a competing business>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me go talk with a contact>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me raid this ruin>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me translate this old text>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me locate someone>okay, can I do thief shit now?>help me settle things with my deadric cult>okay, can I do thief shit now?>now for our ultimate thief heist we have been working towards for ages, help me raid this dungeon like some generic adventurers
Why not Elsweyr? Alfiq are great
>>745233080>Only Morrowind had true guild exclusivity.You can join every faction in Morrowind other than all three houses. Similar to Skyrim to the civil war basically.
>>745233513>bunch of cool shit to do >NOOOOO IT HAS TO BE EXACTLY HOW I PICTURED IT! WHEN DO I GET TO STEAL SOME WIDOW'S PURSE???!??you are the subhumanest, my friend
>>745233642NTA but you cant become the guildmaster of all of them which I think is what he meant
>>745231413I am eager to hear what you think was "great" about it.
>>745233671>Skyrim thieves guild>cool shit
>>745219006>Sentinelprobably said a million times by now, but holy shitthe most reddit sounding, Game Awards title drop garbage ever, this is going to be the biggest piece of shit ever
>>745233812>runs like a mafia >has you doing cool mafia shit like racketeering, forging numbers, pimping whores and shaking down commonersIt's a good questline.
>>745234053It's a bad questline story wise. Awful, even
>>745234127Nah, average at worst.
>>745229318>no diving This isn't Rockstar
>>745229318Considering how shit Starfield was, what's the worst case scenario for ES 6?
>>745233642Well I mean you can only join one of the three houses. You can only be infected by one of the three vampire clans. If you complete the Fighter's Guild Code Book retrieval quest, you're locked out of joining the Thieves Guild. And if you do quests from the Fighter's Guild master in Balmora, you even have to assassinate Thieve's Guild bosses. If you join the Thieves Guild, it's basically the opposite.The final Mage's Guild quest haves you killing Telvanni higher ups, which means that you cannot complete the Telvanni questline.If you, as Morag Tong, assassinate members of a faction you belong to and are caught, your membership is revoked.
>>745234053It's one of the most nonsensically written and plothole heavy quest-lines in the entire Elder Scrolls series. But more to the point, why even call it the Thieves guild and not the "Ratway Gang" or some shit. Holy fuck Skyrim had some bad factions.>you want to join our badass warrior viking group?>You want to go around killing shit with a big sword, fuck maidens, and drink mead?>You want to follow in the footsteps of one of the most pivotal and legendary humans in Tamriel?>Sike! This is actually the werewolf questline!
>>745234520>>you want to join our badass warrior viking group?>>You want to go around killing shit with a big sword, fuck maidens, and drink mead?>>You want to follow in the footsteps of one of the most pivotal and legendary humans in Tamriel?You can still do all of those thoughbeit.
>>745234520Yeah Skyrims factions are fucking awful. I prefer Morrowinds factions especially with all the interplay in >>745234486
>>745234520That pissed me off as well. Or that fact that we ONLY have the College of Winterhold and there's very little reason to repeatedly go there once you've purchased all your spells and done their lackluster quests. It's also missing the familiarity and comfiness of being able to go to a city and know there'll likely be a Mage's Guild or Fighter's Guild chapter, and you can talk to familiar faces, buy, sell, craft, possibly even sleep in one of the beds.Skyrim's guild's just sucked ass in general, it's so lackluster compared to the Morrowind and Oblivion.
>>745233590>decide to make game in Elsweyr>dev team misunderstanfs what Todd is saying>they make the game set somewhere else
>>745233837The Sentinel easter egg is just a reference to the fact that the game takes place in Hammerfell. Actual title will likely be... Hammerfell. There's no reason to name it anything else. Every game since Morrowind was titled after the setting province. The first two didn't take place in a single province so it makes sense they were titled differently.
Sentinel is alright as a nameIt probably isn't a Hammerfell-only game so they can't call it like that.They can call it seNtInel
>>745235031>Every game since Morrowind was titled after the setting province. Bwo, Oblivion? And Morrowind doesnt even take place on the Morrowind mainland
>>745219281kek
>>745235031What is TESIV: Oblivion? Certainly doesn't look like TESIV: Cyrodiil to me.Besides that, Asha Shar AND the Bethesda X accounts both posted exactly 8 asterisks. It wasn't an "easter egg" post, it was referencing the title and it was very purposeful. It's not going to be Hammerfell.
>>745235165>Isn't a Hammerfell only gameThere's nothing hinting at that. I really doubt Bethesda devs, especially after the layoffs, are going to bust their ass and make two whole provinces.
>>745219281incredible
>>745234520>plothole heavyI don't recall any, what were they?
>>745235230Why do Zoomers consistently not know about the Illiac Bay?
>>745221224You call it Five Skyrim?
>>745219281happy I opened this thread
>>745235181>>745235227Bwo?But yeah, forgot about Oblivion. But the Oblivion plane is essential to the story and you keep going back and back to it, it's the game's gimmick. Why would they name the game after a single city? Arena was just the first game without an established standard of titling and Daggerfall was at least named after a whole ass kingdom within the province, essential to the plot. I guess that city could be essential to the plot in TES VI...but that would be fucking ridiculous and retarded, how boring it is to have a whole ass province but have everything revolve around a single city???
>>745235294You're saying they're going to reuse the Daggerfall setting? This would be incredibly fucking lazy and disappointing.
>>745235230>I really doubt Bethesda devs, especially after the layoffs, are going to bust their ass and make two whole provinces.The basic landmass is already made during pre-production, which means it's already been laid out since at least 2023. Obviously, hand-finishing and tweaks still occur afterwards however. Besides that, Morrowind was made by a team of 20 people. Skyrim, just 100. They have had around 500 people working on the game since 2024, and even with the layoffs, have well over 400. They have enough hands on deck for the larger map.Leaks from the pinterest Beth dev pinterest boards showed inspo being pulled that paralleled both Redguard and Hammerfall cultures, the very extreme likelihood of a sailing feature being included, the precedent set by Daggerfall, the fact that Castle launched with two castle types (Hammerfell style and High Rock style), the etching on the Starfield trailer, Asha Shar in her latest post deliberately emphasizing how large the scale of the game is, etc. There are just too many hints that this will be the case.
>>745235294why do zoomers live rent free in your mind?
>>745235506Why? Daggerfall doesn't really count, just like Arena, because it didn't have a hand-crafted environment.Plus a Hammerfell game already has 50% overlap with Daggerfall, and a high rock one a 100% one...
>there have been 3 games named after provinces in a row (actually just 2 and not in direct succession but who cares!!)>this means there can't be any deviation from this unwritten rule and to claim otherwise would be unsensicalyour brain on retardation
>>745235448it's because the city of Sentinel will be the start of the legend of The Sentinel (You).
I know they've had the same roster for years but they should just say fuck it and add a new race to the lineup. That would be very exciting to long time fans
>>745235448And Sentinel is also a kingdom in the province of Hammerfell, whats your point bwo
>>745235506>There's good news too if your interest in the Elder Scrolls dates back to 1996 and Daggerfall: Howard would love to treat elements of the second instalment to a makeover. "I'd like to see the city of Daggerfall redone, or Sentinel. Daggerfall should be on a giant bluff, overlooking the Iliac Bay, and we just couldn't pull it off well then."From a 2011 Interviewhttps://web.archive.org/web/20110314001557/http://www.oxm.co.uk/26155/bethesdas-todd-howard-on-elder-scrolls-5-skyrim/
>>745235768Not unprecedented since Morrowind added Orcs and Imperials
>>745235448You don't get it.According to the wiki: "Sentinel is considered the guardian of the Iliac Bay and has been the safe haven of the western world throughout the eras". It's also the capital of Hammerfell. It'll likely have a very important role in the main story.Besides that, the title takes on a meaning beyond just the city itself as sentinel means "a guard, sentry, or lookout person who stands watch to prevent a surprise attack" suggesting that the player and/or characters involved in the main story will form a Sentinel against a major threat (probably the Thalmor, possibly Daedra)
>>745226389You mean to tell me… there’s a chance?
>>745235580>>745235609>High Rock styleThe Illiac Bay part of Hammerfell is likely High Rock influenced, so it makes sense they would have this style in, but that's precisely the problem. If we're getting Illiac Bay 2.0 then we are getting Mediterranean Redguard influenced High Rock and High Rock influenced Hammerfell. And that is literally blue balling, we are getting two very similar cultural shreds of two provinces when we could get a single province with all of it's cultural diversity. The Illiac Bay would just be an excuse for less worlbuilding.
>>745235627You are the sentinel of attention :3c
>>745219006Im not helping crowns, fuck them Im bringing Hammerfell back to the empire
>>745235506Have you heard of anybody that has played Daggerfall? And I mean really played, not just picked it up for a couple of hours before dropping it.TES was a very different game before Morrowind gameplay-wise and lore-wise, and Arena/Daggerfall are usually swept to the side. The setting will "technically" be the same as Daggerfall, but it will be completely different, because it'll actually be handcrafted this time and follow the modern Elder Scrolls format.That's like saying Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim are incredibly fucking lazy and disappointing because Arena technically featured the entirety of Tamriel, peabrain
>>745236045you be helpin us, wytboi, or we finna be havin trouble
>>745236019High Rock and Hammerfell are going to be vastly more different to each other than any two regions of Skyrim or Oblivion were to each other, be fr rn
>>745236069>Have you heard of anybody that has played Daggerfall? And I mean really played, not just picked it up for a couple of hours before dropping it.yeah, me
>>745236045based
>>745219281TOP ZOZZLE
>>745236208do you by any chance have autism?
Just unfuck what you did to magic in Skyrim and I'll be satisfied Todd
>>745233783Power armor war cool (and ruined by a stupid fusion core mechanic)The gunplay was better (but not as good as an actual shooter)
>>745225115Nah, in those games you were still a Prisoner, so a special superman
I need feedback on my character.
>>745236365I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
>>745219281They/Them seething now
>>745236365what are you talking about, there’s no one there
>>745236019>>745236183Besides that, we don't actually know how much of Hammerfall and how much of High Rock is going to appear. I highly doubt the map will be 1:1 Daggerfall's. I imagine most of Hammerfall will appear, given that ESO's playable area leaves out most of Hammerfall, and I imagine it's to allow Bethesda the space to be creative and surprise people.
>>745236069Anon, I know that Daggerfall didn't actually have a proper representation of the setting. I address my actual problem with reusing this specific setting in another post.Also, Daggerfall got away with taking place in a smaller area lore wise because of it's improvement on mechanics and an actual ridiculously massive map that can be technically crossed (as opposed to infinitely generating planes around cities in Arena). Morrowind got away with using only a chunk of th province and a smaller map because of it's technical leaps and worlbuilding leaps with a hand crafted world. But the ante has been upped with Oblivion and Skyrim being whole provinces. >>745236183Wouldn't that be retarded lore wise? The Illac Bay region is supposed to be similar culturally despite harbouring two different provinces. They just influence each other that much. Maybe I am mistaken about the lore here. But either way, it's blueballing since everyone will just be asking why the fuck can't we seeing the rest of these provinces? The Illac Bay is a very small chunk of High Rock and Hammerfell respectively.
>>745236292>Sentinel releases>Only 3 magic schools: Damage, Healing and Necromancy (pity school with 3 spells, raise lesser beast, raise beast, raise humanoid)>There are no overlapping elemental spells, fire is for pure damage, lightning is for magicka damage exclusively, ice only for slow down effects>Healing is 3 spells total (Heal 1, Heal 2, Heal 3)>Each of these can be bought at any store at any time>They're as strong as they'll get the moment you acquire themIt's elder scrolls gaming time.
AYOHAMMERFELL BELONG TO THE CROWNZ MANG
>>745235847I legit didnt know that, I only know a little bit about the series pre morrowind
>>745219281Officer, this man died of a fatal skooma overdose.
>>745236593THEM CROWNZ IS WACK MANGITZ THE FORBEARZ ALL UP IN THIS BIHH, FOOH!
>>745236307Walking in a cool armor and having okay-ish gunplay shouldn't justify a "great" tag on a game spanning story, setting, location, graphics, mechanics etc. which were (for the most part) subpar.
>>745219281LMAO
>>745236524>The Illac Bay region is supposed to be similar culturally[citation needed]
>>745231413All Fallout games are bad
>>745223960Based Primary Fan.
>>745236832Except 1, 2 and NV
>>745221224you mean like Rainbow Six Siege or Six Sigma? Retard
>>745236517>Illac Bay+But that's also stupid.>here's a substantial chunk of two provinces, but one third is still not accessible lolEveryone will be asking why the fuck couldn't they have just replaced the chunk of one province with having a single whole province. A single province will have enough cultural diversity for one game. If they wanted more wypipo, they still have the Iliac Bay part of Hammerfell which easily could have a big Highe Rock diaspora and High Rock cultural influence to scratch that itch. Save that whole province for a separate game. Although Todd kinda blew his load by turning Cyrodill into High Rock lite instead of surreal Thailand with Slavic X Roman cultures, so a High Rock game would be a bit of a retread.
Want to replay Morrowind and wanting to mix things up. How's this mod?
That is not how TES as reality operates.Elder scrolls function as a type of 4th dimensional object representation of mundus, they are effectively the blueprints of reality but not at a single point in reality and instead at all points past present and future. Every entity, etada, ada, mortals are trapped in the causality of anuic trauma forced to exist through kalpic cycles as the only means by which lorkhan saw the possibility of breaking free from the prison that is reality within aurbis.The only exception are the prisoners, strange mortals who seemingly are not affected by the causality in the elder scrolls but instead define key moments in an almost nonlinear way since a prisoner is just a slot and every players take on the prisoner is valid to his perspective. Because of this every single TES protagonist is chosen one, since the game metaphysically implies that you are given literal agency to intervene into this universe as an outsider.The individual you are playing as is real to your perspective and c0da, but to the overall overarching aurbis each player character is undefined slot and an error.If this was not obvious enough in previous games, ESO with their retarded heavy handed handling of lore and inability to be subtle literally spell it out word for word several times, most famous being Sotha Sil explaining to your player character everything in the most direct way possible.In a Meta sense every player character is chosen, by you.
>>745236794Maybe I'm wrong, the fact that the whole lore of the kingdom infighting in Daggerfall is small kingdoms over the Illac Bay fighting each other, making alliances, backstabbing each other, fighting each other, etc. it makes total sense in my brain that there would be a lot of severe cultural influence on both sides. Yeah, the Dragon Break turned that shit into Schroedinger's Kingdoms but still, the influence would realistically persist because of the closeness.If they really are doing Iliac Bay or Iliac Bay+ I'm gonna be greatly annoyed.
>>745237153Oh so its just your schizo headcannon, got it
>>745226549asha has the whip over him now
>>745237125Bunch of nonsense just to say Scrolls represent the code of all reality (Jews believe Torah is the same and that they can even warp shit with it, in the past and future too) and that the whole world of the games is (You)r dream. Also, all the religious shit in the universe works in a way where if enough people believe in it it becomes real, I'm pretty sure
>>745237294>that the whole world of the games is (You)r dream. Wrong, its a creation of the godhead, and the godhead of the current kalpa is suggested to be Anu
auraless title
>>745219006FUNNY HOW THIS "LEAK" CAME *AFTER* WE GOT THE NUMBER OF TEXT CHARACTERS IN THE SUBTITLE
Dragonborn was the GOAT. All down hill from there if you try to best it.
>>745237210I don't think so, but even if I am wrong, fuck the "here are parts of two provinces instead of a single entire province" shit. I want to see all of Hammerfell. I can wait to see High Rock in a separate game. Or ffs, they can do a The Systres archipelago DLC like they did a Solstheim DLC in Skyrim. The Systres were owner by a bunch of different peoples throughout it's history, you can have your Breton influence shit and even the Imperials all at once there. Also, if it's not in the lore right now it's not too late to add it to the lore that the Iliac Bay has a High Rock influence. The time between Skyrim and Oblivion is 200 fucking years. Hammerfell is a bunch of years into the future after that. Lots of shit could have happened during all that time.
>>745236524>But either way, it's blueballing since everyone will just be asking why the fuck can't we seeing the rest of these provinces?Who's everyone? You don't speak for everyone. I think it's the perfect setting and most people seem to be quite excited for the setting in online discussions. And completely subjectively, I personally don't want to go to fucking Elsweyr or some dumb bullshit like that.>But that's also stupid.According to who? It's the perfect setting to explore sailing, piracy, classic Medieval fantasy, Moorish/Arabian Nights-esque fantasy, even hints of Nordic culture, Orc culture, ancient Nedic culture. High Rock is the center of vampirism. Hammerfell has crazy secret necromancy cults. It's probably the most culturally diverse region in all of Tamriel.>Wouldn't that be retarded lore wise? The Illac Bay region is supposed to be similar culturally despite harbouring two different provincesThat's a wrong assumption. Trade and political marriages between the two regions don't erase thousands of years of fundamental, irreconcilable differences. And Redguard culture itself is the most distinct of all playable races of Man. Consider magic: Bretons have Altmer blood, their peasants cast cantrips, and their politics run on wizardry. Redguards distrust elves and despise magic (especially Conjuration and Necromancy) because a magical cataclysm sank Yokuda. They view it as weak and dishonorable. A Breton city is built around magic; a Redguard city actively distrusts it.Breton culture is Arthurian chivalry, courtly romance, and feudal knights. Redguards are rooted in Yokudan Ansei (Sword-Singers) and grueling martial academies in the desert.High Rock follows the Divines with Elven influences. Hammerfell, even the coastal Forebears, still integrates Yokudan gods like Tu'whacca and Ruptga.High Rock has knights, peasants, etc. Hammerfell has snake charmers, belly dancers, remote sand tribes. And architecturally, of course, they're very distinct.
>>745237578Cool more schizo headcannon
>human province again>province that can (will) be made generic and turned into an approximate analogue for a real life culture, again>warrior culture province again so magic can be made even shittierBORING
>>745237548What are you implying , schizo ??????
>>745237610Elsweyr is cool and has cool lore
>>745237694S Indo-Gypsies and being surrounded by cats coughing furballs everywhere I go
>>745237610>Redguards distrust elves and despise magic (especially Conjuration and Necromancy) because a magical cataclysm sank YokudaThats just cope because they dont want to admit that a sword singer cut an atom with his sword
>>745237550Solstheim is insufferable to traverse. But the dungeons were mostly really good.
>>745230143Why can't the boat just be in the fucking water like Valheim? If an indie game can do it then I hope to Haruhi that a "AAA" game can do it.
>>745237115Quality
>>745237832Said no one with taste about TR ever
>>745225115A Prisoner is the definition of a "chosen one"
>>745237832Where should I start TR? Old Ebonheart is awful
>>745237865Wrong nigger.
>>745237125>>745237415Is any of this actually said in-game? or are you just regurgitating a forum post somewhere. Arx Fatalis (a much better game) explicitly TELLS Am-Shaegar that he is an extra-dimensional entity who needs to change the course of fate.
>>745233837Amazing tits
>>745237776Because Creation Engine
>>745227394>>745228142The right can't meme.
>>745238205If it can do laser shooting spaceships in fucking space, it can do boats in water, ancient and proven technology in comparison. come on now.
>>745237685That "Sentinel" wasn't theorized to be the name until Asha's ******** tweet yesterday. Therefore a REAL leak would've given the name BEFORE the tweet.
>>745237974>Is any of this actually said in-gameYes, you should read the in-game books thats where all the interesting lore is"Eat or bleed dry the gone-forlorn and gain that small will that led them to walk the path of Godhead at the first. Spit out or burn to the side that which made them delay. Know them as the Mnemoli."https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries_3>The eyes, once bleached by falling stars of utmost revelation, will forever see the faint insight drawn by the overwhelming question, as only the True Enquiry shapes the edge of thought. The rest is vulgar fiction, attempts to impose order on the consensus mantlings of an uncaring godhead.https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Black_Book:_Waking_Dreams>The dragon Paarthurnax referred to kalpas as being "the egg of the next world"Source: Paarthurnax's dialogue in Skyrim
>>745237610I think you sound like you're coping or dickriding Bethesda by saying that "uhm, actually blueballing you out of a whole chunks of provinces that likely we won't have a chance to ever explore ourselves in another game is le good". ESO sucks and is gay, and since we're talking Illac Bay+ the parts if the province we won't get to explore are the northern ones. Which border Skyrim. And it doesn't really make sense to make another game with is southern Skyrim+ with chunks of those provinces or to make a sequel with the upper halves of both provinces, that would just seem like money siphoning in a vein of microtransactions. "Buy another game to get the second half of the map!".Redguard distrust of magic is the same shit as the Nordic distrust of magic where they're coping with past failures like another anon said (Sword Singing exploding a continent for Redguards and Jurgen's spergout about the Thu'um because of a single (1) lost war with the Nords), so it makes sense that the magic would slowly creep back in, at least in certain places, especially one that borders High Rock. Again, this is the one place when lore can be realistically expanded, especially considering that it's been so much fucking time since the whole Oblivion Crisis and Skyrim was constantly implying that the world is going through rapid changes. A High Rock influenced Illac Bay region of Hammerfell makes much, much more sense for having some relatable wypipo rep in a negro province, rather than just giving us half-doses of two provinces.
>>745238286You're not making any sense at all , schizo !!!!!
>>745238275The way spaceships work in Starfield is that you get transported to another distinct, playable space where you get to "fly" around and shoot at ships or fly toward pre-placed objects. But you couldn't actually fly in the sense that you could leave this specific playable space to actually fly to a planet or to another galaxy (outside of menus of course).They only recently made it so that you could fly to planets in the same solar system, 2.5 years after launch, but it's also not seamless experience. First of all, you have to "trigger" this mode by holding down a button, to which your ship starts speeding up immensely, but it's also incredible apparent that all they did is create a new, expanded space for your ship and layer jpegs on it. Ships and unique locations in the solar system aren't actually rendered, you only see them because they have an icon in that space that you can fly toward. If you fly toward an icon, a "warp" animation plays (even if you're a couple km away from said ship, yes I know, it doesn't make sense) and the ship or unique location magically appears in front of you. Funnily enough, if you fly toward a ring planet, then try to fly past it (but close to its orbit), you start to see a huge gap between the ring and the planet itself, where the two jpgs stop meeting (because you're too close to it). I suppose they're two separate images and are layered lmao. Also your ship starts bouncing off the surface of the planet as you fly past as if its a bouncy ball.Long story short, Starfield was shit.
>>745238484>ermm, you're coping or blueballing because you don't want to play in the province I want to play in!kys retard tl;dr
Total Br*t*n Death
>>745238993>Be Breton>Literally have the best of both worlds (Elven and Man blood)>Be robust AND skilled in the magical arts>Haters seethe wherever we go
>>745238590I think you're simply too retarded to understand basic english
>>745219006>- Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one. They actually grabbed the wrong prisoner.WRONG. OBLIVION LOL.
I legitimately want to kill all skyrim babies, its the only rational thing to do. Look how fucking retarded they all are.
Unpopular opinion but TES would've been better off as a real time tactics game. First person is good for screenshots but makes actually playing the game an utter chore, it's only fitting in linear games and should've been abandoned when they were making Morrowind.
>>745231259It will be different this time though
>>745233062>fetch quest:l>fetch quest, Morrowind:0
>>745239685Thank God you have no say in the games industry.
What do you want Breton trash
>>745238286https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/743279360/#743279360>Tue 14 Jul 2026
>>745239882Bethesda is barely scraping by, if at all
>>745240168Yeah, now imagine what the reaction would be on release if you were in charge of TESVI kek it would be a disaster to everyone but you and a couple CRPGfags that wouldn't have played TESVI otherwise
>>745234520I would appreciate if we just get some actual fucking standard guilds in TES6.I want to be a fighter doing fighter contracts. I want to beat some guy up for money. I want to kill a few rampaging animals for money.Like its okay if the guild has an overarching story that you start to notice and then comes at you after a while, but at the same time regular guild contract work shouldn't stop.Same with with mages and thieves.Some of my best fun this last year has been playing Tamriel Rebuilt because that team actually understands how to write guild quests. They're JOBS given to professionals. They use your skillset and challenge you to use what your class has available to get it done.
>>745239685TES would've been better off as whatever type of game has faster dev time than whatever Bethesda's been doing
>>745232307I don't see the similarity tbqh
I see no reason to purchase or play any new Bethesda game
>>745241502Only true sons of Skyrim can.
>>745241485The fighters guild quests in Old Ebonheart are fucking stupid
Another Elder Scrolls, another big land mod project that will go nowhere
>>745237974Yes, for decades it was esoteric and hidden in TES books...then ESO with retarded gay millennial writing came out and started to make gods tell you this shit directly>https://youtu.be/tEfJD4HqrXM?si=3ZV4-6XO0SRCNxhWI guess because retarded morons like you prefer to not have lore be actually part of the setting and hidden in the same way such esoteric knowledge would actually be, across various banned religious texts. Now instead of having to research you will have big chungus Mora and Sil tell you>Holy CHIM my bro, you truly are The Prisoner of Aurbic enigma after all huh?
>>745242071>TFW Beyond Skyrim's only release was before the TES 6 teaser trailer even came out
>>745242071Because the Morrowind ones turned out to be the best in the long run, so the others aren't really needed.There's not really anything you can do in Oblivion/Skyrim that you can't do in Morrowind, except voice acting which you don't even want because modders suck at voice actingTES 6 might change this because it'll have settlement building and vehicles
>>745238784>but it's also incredible apparent that all they did is create a new, expanded space for your ship and layer jpegs on itNo, that is not what is happening. It is actually moving in real space, each solar system is an actual instanced world chunk. The switch to cruise mode is because of the way world origin functions the further the player would for from world origin the more float errors you would get and it also made random encounters impossible. During cruise mode technically you being the center of the world space origin.>Ships and unique locations in the solar system aren't actually renderedThey are, why are you literally making shit up.This is not defending starfield on my side, I hate that game, but literally why make shit up when you are neither a coder nor a modder so you haven't seen the back end of it.
>>745235028This actually what happend with each game Todd's been in charge of.>"Alright Todd, we're ready to start working on TES:III and we were thinking of setting it in the cat folk place">"Yeah, Elsweyr sounds good.">"Uh... okay, elsewhere it is???">One dev cycle later>"Hey, why did we set TES:III in Morrowind? I though you guys wanted it to be Elsweyr?">"We did, but you said no.">"????????"Rinse and repeat for three more games
>>745219006I was 19 when Skyrim came out and I'll be pushing 40 when this will come out
>>745219006Does that mean we can finally play as a normie without modding?
>>745238784You're working on outdated info, they added actual planetary vehicles to starfield in a patch.There are also mods that let you fly in atmosphere.Yeah the game's shit but they can do ships and have already proven it.
>>745219006bravo emil
>>745238784>>745242759When you saw the old videos of people bumping into "jpg", that was speeding past the boundaries using console commands which precisely caused the world origin lod issues, what ships used to bump into were unloaded Lods hence why they have collision at all, they are 3d models if they were to load properly. In current patch/iteration ships actually travel in real space without faking, but by using this bizarre hack where cruise mode for the purpose of long distance travel changes how world origin works. This is why when you get encounters in cruise mode it pulls you out back into real real space, it switches to stationary version of the world chunk with new world origin set.
>>745231413>Fallout 4 was great.
>>745242934I will explain for brainlets how this would function in case of ships.You would sail a ship in real time in an area with certain bounds, lets say in a radius of Skyrim map from the start of your journey, from the moment you sail out you can travel interact and have combat in real space in real time without any faking.Once you reach boundary of this Skyrim sized radius from your initial starting point you get a trigger something like>Wind is risingWhich will prompt you to go full speed ahead, from that moment you continue sailing in real time but you sail at a higher speed and technically speaking no enemies or encounters can spawn at all, you are almost like a ghost traveling through a parallel version of reality overlayed over the real one.Whenever you reach location you wanted to reach, or if you decide to stop, or if an RNG script forces a random encounter you will be kicked out of this high wind mode. Once you are kicked out of this mode enemies can spawn again, the RNG encounter that was scripted to trigger will most likely play out, or if you stopped yourself you can leave the ship now jump into water and whatever, from the moment you stopped there is a new real space radius around you size of Skyrim where you don't actually have bugs and issues.In both real mode and cruise mode you are traveling through the same giant sea map, the geometry and locations are not faked but encounters and interactions with the world other than travel are impossible in Cruise mode until you stop or are forced to stop which anchors a new world origin for the sea.
>>745243379Honestly that sounds pretty shit. Like from a gameplay perspective that sounds like wind waker, a big expanse of nothing that exists between the actually fun parts of the game.I don't think the sea zones near Hammerfell are so large they need to do this. It's not outer space. They can just make an actual sea and populate it with islands, enemies, random spawning pirate ships, and various hidden things.
>>745242759>They are, why are you literally making shit up.Except they are literally not you fucking retard>but literally why make shit upI played the game moron
>>745243379Yeah so like Starfield but on a 2D plane so in other words it's shit but because ships and unique locations are (most likely) actually visible to you and not just icons you travel towards until they appear before you after some load flash, it'll at least be somewhat better than Starfield
>>745243631I am a modder actively working on mods related to cruise mode, I don't understand what kind of cope you are going through right now but this is not how space in shitfield works. >>745243594>>745243902You are correct, but as I said this would be necessary only when you reach the edge of the initial area, which is at least as big as Skyrim/Fallout4/76 maps if they don't increase it further thanks to better hardware of what I assume it's next Xbox.This is necessary only if they again encounter world origin errors if the sailing will go really really far.Otherwise it can function like blackflag if the size of the sea does not extend beyond that radius.
Hey, what do you have against Bretons?
>>745244404Surely they won't still have world origin errors... they'll fix it, haha... they're not going to have a morrowind bug affecting TES VI... n-no way haha...
>>745219281most based post on /v/ in months
>>745231237It's the Creation Engine too. EVERY game that uses it has diving, even Starfield. Like I cannot imagine from a technical standpoint how you could take it out.
>>745235448The entire continent is called "The Arena" because of the constant wars and fighting.
>>745244728It isn't as clear cut, Bethesda's cell structure of the world allows certain level of permanence that is incredibly difficult if you have a different approach to how your open world loads.
>>745245148Hasn't been called that since Arena.
>>745223960>MorrowindEven that's not necessarily the case. The entire point of the failed incarnates is that there have been dozens of potential Nerevarines. The main difference between the PC and the failed incarnates is that you succeeded while they didn't.
>>745245320Well, that and the fact that Azura speaks to you in the opening cutscene and tells you shes chosen you
is there even anyone left in bethesda who worked on any of the previous tes games besides todd howard?
>>745242060Oh yeah, I hated getting sent as far as they were sending me. Started to get really fucking ridiculous. I ended up walking across the road to the East Empire Company and working for those jews instead.
>>745223960The failed nerevarines exists because all were born at the wrong time and moment, azura and boethiah herselves had to wait til nerevar's real soul found his way back to mundus thanks to the warp in the west.
>>745245676
>>745219281Lamao
>>745245431There's absolutely nothing stopping her from having done that with every failed Nerevarine. We're just the one who actually lived and had the skills to get the job done.
>>745237927Thank fucking jagar tharn for that.Ocato and Jauffre at least became our guides in oblivion.
>>745219006>youre a prisoner in a dungeonThis is how you know it's fake. Todd would never trick you with the same storyline 7 times in a row.
>>745219281ELDER SCROLL VI: SAAR
>>745219006>Turns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen one.This isn't a first at all even just in the main games. Fuck you and die
>>745223960>you arent the chosen one in oblivionThis is going to sound autistic but im the one who has the take the amulet to joffrey and if i dont do that the daedric win, world ends.I dont care about the lore reason, its more about the urgency of suddenly being thrown into a struggle to save the world where it feels like I have to pretend it never happened if i want to go do something else in the game. I think when people complain about "chosen one" stuff what they really mean is they dont like the urgency they are thrust into before they get a chance to explore the game.
>>745226512Per blades lore, both are loyal to the empire, but the surrender for them was a stab in the back.
>>745245863The universe engineers you to be the chosen one by its own nature.
i cant bring myself to play a non nord in skyrim because of my lore autism questioning why anyone else would be the dragonborne so i hope they dont do something similar in the next game
>>745237694No beast country will be in a mainstream game, there aren't enough furries and even less scalies. When given options to do characters people reliably choose John Fighter, the 6'2" huwite muscle man.
>>745234446woke shit and how redguards built skyrim
>>745219281I am free. It's over, suck it Todd. FPBP
>>745228948Sword singing is bankai but cooler and made by superboy prime on weed.
>>745242602The point of beyond Skyrim is less to explore new regions than seeing how they evolved since the 3rd eraWhich means only the Cyrodill and maybe morrowind project are interesting
It's gonna be dogshit. I think this will be the game that finally turns people off of Bethesda's "hehe funni bugs". They are funny and endearing when the game is otherwise great. But when you release a bad game and there's Bethesda bugs, I dunno how even normies will palatilize it. These kinds of fantasy games attract a certain kind of normie, a more serious one. They have historically release janky games with janky physics. I don't see why it would change with TES 6. And unfortunately the few games they've been putting out have been getting progressively shittier in just about every measurement.So even if the normies swallow the dogshit writing, the terrible performance, the 30 year old left-click/right trigger slash fighting mechanics, it will blow up in their faces. I really hope they go a different direction with the fighting gameplay, but I don't trust them to do anything else well. Grim.
>>745245904In another words Joffrey is the chosen one and you are his sidekick. You are not the chosen one.
>>745246816Bugthesda has been dead since Fallout 4. They don't make crashfests full of bugs anymore. It's an old meme. Their games have gotten more and more polished every time, Starfield is their best yet in that regard. Problem is it's a polished turd.
>>745229598Fanfic lore
>>745233590I'm using a mod to play as a Alfiq Khajiit in Morrowind. It's fun.
>>745246870yeah the problem with reading one sentence then replying is you look like a fucking retard.
>>745223960The whole point of Morrowind is that you might not be the hero of prophecy. It is, in fact, up to (You), because that's the kind of game The Elder Scrolls is supposed to be. The developers thought of some events, but without the player, there is no event.
>>745219006I wonder if well have access to canons and muskets/flintlocks in this game, because I'm betting they're gonna play with the pirate aesthetic
>>745231237You can not dive in Starfield
>>745219006Not a bad idea.But I'm thinking playing into the mystery a bit more. Morrowind had the whole False-Incarnate deal, but really missed the mark by not having one around at the same time you were.It's rather obvious due to both standard BGS plot and how the prisoner works metaphysically that you can never not be the prophesied Hero, but having a second guy going around claiming and being a part of the plot would be nice.
>>745223960You are the Hero. You are always proceeded by Prophecy.The Prisoner is YOU. You are the Hero. No Prophecy means no event which means you don't get to play a real nobody.
>>745247464I hope so. That was the main reason I thought Avowed was an okay game. Give me more arquebuses.
>>745231259Liked all of those.Then again, I have the same tastes as a Racoon. The moment they put out something I don't like, I'm leaving just like I did with Star Wars.
>>745219006>aren't chosen onethat's in fucking Oblivion, retard, the chosen one was supposed to be fucking Boromir but in this timeline the heir to the blood is just a fucking cuck priest / monk in training, so your PC had to babysit him, and you're the one doing his duty>not chosen but become chosen one anyway after trials and tribulationagain, fuckface, that's in Morrowind, there's a million Nerevarine "awakened" by Azura before your PC, along side your PC, just as there's a million Sleepers awakened by Dagoth Ur. It's just fucking happenstance your PC was able to overcome every single challenges where the others fail, it's the climbing over the shoulders of giants metaphor, where the RNG just piles on trials and errors and your PC just managed to cling over each pile towards the top. That's fucking right, both Azura and Dagoth Ur were playing the long con and relying on RNG trying to manifest the Nerevarine over eons, trying to birth the anomaly that would ultimately fulfill the prophecy at every single steps and complete the circle / equation
>>745237153You seem autistic. Working yourself up over nothing. Bethesda isn’t smart enough to do cultural influence. If it’s iliac bay and not just hammerfell it will be medieval France and medieval Muslims with zero influence on each other. Look how they handled other cultures within the same provinces, colovian and nibanese aren’t a thing anymore just generic imperial.
>>745248895NTA but how did they do ESO? I've never played it. Did they butcher the previous lore like Morrowind? How about the foreign land, the Asian, Akavir, monkey people? tiger people? (Not khajit)
>>745249056Oh, I saw the ESO Tsaesci. I'll spoiler it so you don't accidentally read it and get mad. Tsaesci are just generic humanoids.
>>745249134Just like Oblivion?Honestly, now that they've appeared as generic human man for the last two decades, I'm just going to imagine Tsaesci from now on as just Fantasy Snake Goa'uld
>>745219006Nice AI post faggot
>>745219006>rns out for the first time in ES history you actually ARENT the chosen oneidiot
>>745223960No, only Skyrim. In Skyrim you're 100% a Dragonborn and could do animay shit from the beginning, there is no doubt about it, since Dragonborns are fucking rare. Which is why the game sucks. Your PC is a fucking animay chuunibyou special snowflake from the beginning, like most games they want to pamper you, the player, as the most specialest snowfalkes ever. Bloat your fucking ego, like most kpop mmo gachaslop rpg etc.Morrowind is different because of how janky prophecy works. There were numerous "chosen ones" before your Player Character, each one of these Nerevarine fulfilled certain parts of the prophecy, but all of them failed until your PC.
>>745229557>The emperor was literally seeing John Oblivion in his prophetic dreams,because hes seeing his death and you happen to be some guy who as around when he died. martin is the "chosen one" of oblivions story
>>745219006WE
>>745249725 In this case the fulfillment (or destruction) or prophecy depends entirely on the result of trials and tribulations that the "Hero" faces, the challenges. You have to actually complete the tribal tests for example to be officially called the Nerevarine by the tribes. So in this case the Hero's Journey literally is what makes your PC the Hero. This is what the Dark Souls games excel at. Trials and tribulations. Hard fucking challenges etc. Again, in Harry Potter, there were multiple candidates worthy of that prophecy, but it was Voldemort that ironically believed in that prophecy that set he ball rolling, killing the babies in that night. Eventually he tried to kill baby Harry and the resulting action actually marked the start of his downfall. And then again, Harry was not the only surviving baby that night. Baby Neville too survived, and he was actually the other chosen one. There were TWO chosen ones throughout the book/movie and both of them succeded in killing Voldemort at the same time. So Harry wasn't the only fucking Nerevarine. Dark Souls 3 had Anri, Sieggy and Hawkwood as the other chosen ones along your PC. Gundyr was also a chosen ones. The trailer guy in Elden Ring was a chosen one, the finger helmet guy in the fucking game cover was the actual chosen one, and you actually get to meet both of them in-game.
>>745249758WUZ
>>745219281>Only Argonians can breathe underwater - Saint Floyd of Riften
