CEO today.
Day 1 schedulehttps://ceogaming.org/tv/>Avatar Rumble, Tokon Rumblehttps://www.twitch.tv/ceogaming>Street Fighter 6https://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters>Tekken 8https://www.twitch.tv/tekken>Tokon Pools, UMVC3 Pools and 10v10https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleeps>Avatar Pools, VF5REVO Top 24 and Top 8https://www.twitch.tv/jwonggg>GGST Pools, BBCF Poolshttps://www.twitch.tv/juicygamenight>2XKO Pools and Top 24https://www.twitch.tv/maxmode_fgc>Smash Melee Pools, Smash Ultimate Poolshttps://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp>GBVSR Pools, Tokon Poolshttps://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleeps2>SSF2T Pools and Top 24https://www.twitch.tv/atarifgc>SSF2T Top 8https://www.twitch.tv/nuckledu>Samsho2019 Top 12https://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgc
Community Tourneys Day One>KOFXIII, Fate/UC, Divekick, Puyo Puyo Tetris 2, BBTAGhttps://www.twitch.tv/nuckledu>DOA5LR, MBTL, Tekken 5 DR, USF4, SCIIhttps://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgc>Them's Fighting Herds, SamShoVINo stream but probably gonna have some unofficial stream somewhere or if not, wait and look for VODs.
>>745334496I had some great matches on FF cotw yesterday.
>>745334496Where'd all the fucking colour go in the last combo example?
I don't care about Asa Mitaka
>>745334226My bad it's 10k
>>745334519>BBCF off stream for 6 hoursDamm I guess I can watch Tokon and Strive while waiting.
One hours till the doors open
I should have called out. I just want to veg out and watch the first Tokon major.
>>745334496idk shit about fighting games but the animation of the first 3 clips looks a lot cooler compared to the last one.
>Danger can't cancel into her Unique despite it being -4 on point blank hitwhy?
>>745335673Because they were worried about her being broken so they made her everything bad instead. That's why she has a hoverdash that has no reason to actually exist since they removed its ability to overhead before the beta and you could see her doing it in early footage.
>>745336078they make the game casual friendly to bring in casual bucks then once that well is dry, use patches to keep the game at an acceptable level of playercount until their next game. All modern fighting games do this nowadays dont you see
>>745334519>2XKO is having its top 24 on the same day as pools for everyone elseOuch
Rivals 2 added not-Kirby in the form of an undead goo platypus. Why are you still not playing this game.
Avatar got more entrants than Strive? People really don't like Robo-Ky, huh?
>>745334519>BBCPwait what
https://streamable.com/mmrljl
>>745336078>she has a hoverdash that has no reason to actually exist since they removed its ability to overheadIt hits standing characters, you just need to setup for it
>>745336385I honestly forgot about Chrono Phantasma for a sec and I was gonna joke about BB players and a freudian slip
>>745336385Uh oh Jebailey fucked up
>>745336453Chiming in here to ask, since I don't play Tokon: when you say Danger has a hoverdash, do you mean like Morrigan and I-No. Are you saying that she can only hit standing opponents with aerials after that? Like it's not even a Mid on crouching opponents, it just whiffs?
>>745334496does kof have any cool pictures that capture the feeling of the franchise? so far i only got tekken and street fighter outta fighting games
>>745336331I am, it's a good game. Par for the course, goo boy feels better than his inspirations.That said, the character isn't for me. I don't have floatybrain.
>>745336678Something like this?
>>745336926not bad but iori looks like a deer in headlights
>>745336678kof is the absolute best when it comes to that and nothing even comes close, it's one of the reasons it got popular
>>745336678Ghost of Yotei main character figurine looks sick anon.
>>745336331sell me on Rivals 2 as someone with no competitive Smash experience
>>745337127this one's cool>>745337129thanks anon, i'm a big fan.
>>745337127do you know where i might find stuff like this in a better resolution?
>>745336661Yeah, similar stuff as them or Izayoi tooIt whiffs on crouching unless you delay the shit out of your air normal, but it will hit standing characters, leading to a combo or a true blockstring with no extra resourceThere's a few differences as a result, doing instant jL makes for a quick non-commital anti-air, and jump cancelling out of the startup gives her a really long dash jump, or a weird angle on a neutral jumpShe can also steer vertically out of her hoverdash, and she retains momentum out of one of her air projectiles, so there's a lot of implications to it when it comes to neutral
>>745337252no idea really, Shinkiro is the artist that does all these SNK illustrations if that helps
>>745336678Sick Tekken 4 poster
>>745337392>Yeah, similar stuff as them or Izayoi tooHoly fuck that's rough. God damn. It already pisses me off pretty hard when tall normals can go over some crouching opponents, but that's even worse.That's like, when Skullgirls had to acquiesce on its autistic hitboxes because shit was so inconsistent levels of anti-gamefeel that has to be addressed.
And the gates of CEO 2026 has open!
>>745337494they have lotsa talented illustrators, unfortunately mostly low rez, i'd have to AI upscale this like 10x to make good posters out of
>>745337840I'm sure there's some archive or something somewhere if you look
>>745336678Gb2gaia narutard
>>745336678I want a Pot of Greed…
>>745334496EYEBEAREYEBEAREYEBEAR UPPERCUT
>>745337936naruto website thoughever
all streams is offline
>>745338289it starts in 2 hours bro
>>745337156I don't really play competitive Smash either. Rivals 2 just appealed to me because it's focused on the fundamentals and delivers a game that does want you to play it earnestly like a fighting game. A lot of other platform fighters throw in some gimmicks for spice, but Rivals 2 is just straightforward as fuck, really fun to play, telegraphs basically everything you might need to learn in some way or another during play, and just cuts through all the bullshit to be an extremely competent experience.It wholly deserves to be the standard bearing vanilla-in-a-good-way basic bitch figurehead of the platform fighter sub-genre in the same way as something like Street Fighter
>>745334519>vf5 and 2xko schedules that close>2xko having top 24 while vf5 having its top 24 and top 8 while other games are still in poolsThose niggas lying about the sign-ups for 2xko. The fucking top 8 is at 2pm on Saturday lmao
>>745338618Maybe they saw how fucking long 2xko sets get last EVO
>>745337634I think people are too quick to jump to conclusions regarding her hoverdash, you need to look at it within the context of the gameThe mix in Tokon mostly comes from command overheads or specials that are in the reactable range (with another option for a low), or require assists to do stuff like jumping and doing an air normal/landing into a lowDanger's jM is not, on standing it's gotta be something like a 16f overhead, if it hit crouching opponents then she would be beyond broken because with assists it's fairly easy to get the frame advantage for it, and it gives a full conversion on hitEven outside that, you can still setupFor example nobody's gonna be blocking low when you do a jump-in, so you can substitute your air normal for an assist call, land and do your instant overheadWith tag pressure, you also have enough frame advantage to do whatever you want, even on crouching, and it is faster than IADs
>>745338884Not reading. Go back to Dizzy, wyte boi
>>745338884garbage
What happened to 2XKO? Everyone gave up already?
>>745338884What’s considered reactable here, like how many frames?
>>745339347that game has 8 rollback i doubt anything is reactionable on that
>>745338884I fucking hate active tag. You should earn your mix after a knockdown, not do some wildly unsafe shit into guess for your life
raped genre
>>745336331fag panderingalso not a fighting game.
>>745339347Everything is reactable but the game looks and plays like garbage so good luck figuring out who's attacking.
>>745336359I am definitely pre-disposed to disliking it more than most because I played Asuka and the ruined him, but I think 2.0 just sucks. It feels like a patch where they paid attention to things that annoyed professional players but in the process just made the game homogeneous and dull, and Strive already had issues with feeling homogeneous compared to past entries to begin with. I don't hate Strive but for what issues I have with it mechanically, I feel like they were all leaned into with 2.0.
>>745339521Anyone still complaining about the rollback are just self reporting they have a 2017 mid tier PC.
>>745340107i have 0 rollback on SF6 and Tekken 8 but in Tokon it's like 8 by default.
>>745339347I don't have the exact number but easily over 20f, sometimes with the EX glow/soundI think there are some rare exceptions (Storm, Spiderman), and then I think some are made better by how ambiguous they look, like Goblin or Black Panther>>745339534>You should earn your mix after a knockdown, not do some wildly unsafe shit into guess for your lifeI generally agree, but because the entire game is built like this it's not as bad (also you don't need resources for mix on knockdown)Also the generic assist sucks, so you have to lab a bit more which I find cool
>>745339534if you let someone get that close to you in a tag game you're already dead. this was true in mahvel as well
>>745339696You think the genre is raped? The threads are full of bots now.It's beyond kill
>>745334519Here's the whole thing in one image.Not sure why they didn't just make it like this on the website to begin with.
>>745340143Didn't post specs..
>>745340521about what
>>745339265>game has no content but shit to spend money on>Xbox version has been crashing for monthsRiot clearly doesn't give a shit anymore. Hell the game is below tokon at Evo France.
>>745339265A game made for no audience that was dead before it arrived.Lol players don't want to play a game where they don't have half a dozen other guys to blame when they loseFighting game players already have popular babymode games to play Lol's designs aren't particularly appealing to anyone but coomers, and if coomer fighters sold, Arcana Heart would not have had to crowd fund its own DLC
>>745340484>2xko counts each player (even if they're a duo)>still 150 less than strive and it has HALF the number of poolsLmao this shit dead dead
>>745341078Granblue fans were robbed. These niggas are straight up committing fraud.
>>745341078>top 6 get main stage top 8>2xko entrants are less than granblue (#7)>listing never updated by ceo so 2xko is still "top 6"The fgc is fake and gay
@sajam we need another 2xko slam stat!!!
>>745341050>Fighting game players already have popular babymode games to playAll of them are babymode games. The only not baby game is Avatar and it also feels baby compared to mvc2
>>745341219>Granblue fanswho cares lol
>>745336678>does kof have any cool pictures that capture the feeling of the franchise?Is that a serious question?
I just play boomer fighting games and remember the old days, tournaments nowadays are lacking something, I don't want to say passion because it sounds corny but I don't know what else to call it. It kind of felt like whenever the japanese players flown in to play it was like the saiyans arriving on earth for the first time and it was up to the local talent to defend earth but now it's just... eh
>>745341547>>745336678
Is Max dood competing in mahvel tokon
>>745341714>>745341547>>745336678
>>745336678
>>745337156In traditional fighting games, you get comboed and unless you have burst you just let go of the controller as you watch your character getting hit. In RoA2 and some other platfighters, you can influence the direction you're being juggled during a combo, which makes it more fun for the defender since you have agency and also requires adaptation from the one doing the combo. Other than that, it's one of the few current games that's not nerfing movement for no reason, I swear every fighting game and fighting adjacent game is slowing down over time. RoA2 is faster than anime games
>>745341745>Is Max dood competinglol
I just hit a nigga with the DOOM masenko in token to end my ranked session.
TOKON WON!!!! STAY MAD LOSER HATERS!!!https://x.com/i/status/2087965550190186860
AAA LOOK OUT
Genuinely how is Samsho 2019?I never bothered with it given it didn't have rollback on release and >lol Stadia tie-in But I'm craving a more old school footsies fighter that I haven't played yet and enjoyed the small bit of V I played. I was thinking of getting back into GBFVR for my sword fighting game tism but seeing yet another unga bunga mechanic being added is such a turn off.
>>745341547>>745341714that doesnt capture the feeling of the franchise though, i dont just want men in suits or a single focus poster, its gotta be one complete image for the franchise>>745341854this is like for a retro collection, missing the mark again>>745342050thats not even fucking kof
>Granblue finally nerfed BC to not hkd on a counterWhy did it even take so long? I fucking hate Arcsys and Cygames.
>>745334496>Tokon sold less than 500k copies in the first week>backed by Marvel & Sony>Tekken sold 1 million copies on the day of release>2 million the next month>Smash bros sold 5 million copies in its first week on a single platformI think we can safely say that Tokon is getting its funds cut short unless you believe in God and God has a plan for Tokon lmao
>>745343484Too late, don't care
>>745343104one of the best fighting games out there
>>745343526why did stellar blade attract these kind of "people"? you don't even play fgs
I wish people would stop trauma dumping during fighting games. Like I know you've had to have a rough time if you're resorting to teabagging during a match to feel good, but that's not something you should be asking me to handle when I'm just wanting to play a video game.It's like when you see tranny and fag flags show up on tourney stage. This is just not the time for you to beg for therapy and acceptance my dude (male).
>>745343153You might just have bad taste, did you consider that
#745343526>quoting incorrect data as fact>AI slop game reaction image
Why did they make Magik so cute in Tokon? She is ugly in everything else.
>>745343628You're right, what's your point?
>>745343526WRONG! LIES! FALSE!!!! TOKON WON!!!!! SEE PROOF >>745342507GO CRY SOMEWHERE AVATARFAG UR STUPID CARTOON GAMED FAILED!!!!
>>745343710Arcsy
>>745343710His influence
https://youtu.be/jUqVZ4BLLTs?t=56I haven't heard music like this in ages. It's like from a JRPG boss theme.
>>745343795His influence would make her black tranny lmao.
>>745343526why do you avatarfag every thread
>>745343809I want no UI mode now
>>745343710They didn't. The second she opens her mouth she sounds like a huge bitch. In the story mode she unironically acts like a libcuck woke bitch girlboss all the fucking time. They just gave her a blob face and retards like you eat it up because you're a virgin.
>>745343665i'm not saying they are bad, they just dont fit my collection retard
>>745344037The reason of melty?
Tokon Warriors Assamble!!Tokon is up!!! This weekend is Tokon's we won so hard. https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleeps
>>745344146I'm not watching. Hearing Tong and Proxy trying to commentate Tokon from the first tourney they did for it was SO bad. They're just saying random bullshit to fill the air and had such an awkward presence, they clearly don't know what they're doing and just hoping it takes over Marvel 3, but they only fucking know Marvel 3.
>>745343862Quote the avatarfag post from the last thread
>>745344037>>745343710She also has a flat ass
>>745334496the only fighting game I liked is HFTF.
>>745344306It's not flat. Just in case, post your hand.
>>745344146Thank you Jesus they decided to go with Shuri and not T'challa for Tokon.
>>745344306that ass is white woman flat
I dont even play fighting games but I live in this thread to shit on fighting games since they all suck lmao
Aaand CEO is live starting from SF6, Tokon, Tekken 8, Avatar, Strive, 2XKO, GBVSR, Smash Melee and SSF2T.
IT'S UP!!!https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleepshttps://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleepshttps://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleepshttps://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleepsTOKON WON SO BIGLY!!!!!!
>>745344554i play mostly just to goon desu, street fighter and tekken are amongst the highest tier gooner games unironically
>>745343628Mentally ill autists who need to feel like they "won" when number, it's fucking exhausting. Nobody cares about playing the games or just simply ignoring it, always MY NUMBER IS BIGGER THAN YOUR NUMBERonly way to solve this is for jannies to nuke every single fucking steam chart/sales post but they won't
>>745344627>SF6Mercy kill when?
>>745343680>SFfag>defending arcslopIs this nigga serious?
>>745344253Yipes/Wong are on right now, far better
>>745344687he's from /tekgen/ though he just uses ingrid as hes avatar for some reason
VEGA IN 6 WHENWHEN WHEN WHENI CAVED AND BOUGHTED THE GAME ANYWAY AND PLAYED HONDA FOR A WHILE BUT ITS NOT NEARLY THE FUCKING SAME WHERE IS MY NIGGA VEGA
damn the Avatar game looks good
I'm looking at Tokon for the first time.
>>745344851Well if SF7 releases in 2030 probably in 2034.
I am loving all these dropped combos in Tokon. Shout at to them being the first match in the first Tokon major.
Bro this tournament level tokon play looks ass. I thought these dude were doing a button check lmao
>>745344760I'm not the pass fag, just using a reaction image of ingrid...
beat soul calibur on hardest difficulty mashing single attacks with siegfried.
>>745344964first time watching pools?
Chip shouldn't kill
>>745344757>Yipes and JustinOh shit, gonna have it playing in the background while I work then. It's actually almost funny just how much better Yipes is on the mic even when he's not hollering, and Justin sucked at first but he's been getting much better lately.
>>745345068Nigga you fags are afraid of going to majors you swear up and down that majors is a whole different level of play and now you're moving the goalpost lmao
>>745341604Saturation. An abundance of tournaments and a lot of high level players turned to streaming, including your faggot LE MYTHICAL japanese players who are beating scrubs in their pajamas online on twitch. So it's not exciting to see them anymore compared to when the only footage of them is on some dogshit 160p handcam on justin tv or something
Damm Marvel looks stale. I hope Avatar looks better.
>>745345103SFV tard
>>745345153You dumb fuck, there are always people who suck like you that enter pools. You want EVERYONE to be a god? For a game thats less than a MONTH old at that? Why, so you can then make another niggerbrained post going "OH MY GAWWWWWWWD FIGHTING GAMES RE SO HARRRRRRRRRRRD WHY DONT THEY MAKE IT EASY JUST FOR MEEEEEEE I JUST WANT TO WIN WITH NO EFFORT REEEEEEEEEEEE"Fucking KILL YOURSELF, you stupid no skill bitch.
>another MagikIs she meta?
>>745344146>still can't rewind youtube tns streamsChrist these fuckers are such jews.
Who is he?
>>745345490Magik seems like one of those characters that people get comfortable using early on but get demolished later on because everyone knows how they play . But we’ll see
>>745345612>agik seems like one of those characters that people get comfortable using early on but get demolished later on because everyone knows how they playDidn't work against Mai.
>>745345490she's the arcsys-mandated easy to play gorilla waifu with a big sword
>>745345395You faggots swear everyone who goes to majors is a god thats why you dont go lmao
>>745334496The last one doesn't even look like sagat. Sf6 looks so bad, man.
>Hey, google, who is Magik's love interest>She doesn't have one but it's implied she is bisexualOwari da...
>>745345686Yeah, like those other characters like Es and... uh...
>>745345579The nissan altima of mexicans
>>745345760Sorry anon, that's comics. Everyone fucks everything and if they don't someone else will come along and write a story where they do now.
>>745345683Mai solves neutral in sf6 with one move. Magik isn’t like that
>>745345763Strive Ramlethal is beyond braindead
3 rounds in a fucking versus game? This shit is gonna go on forever.
>>745345760>is angry a woman is bisexualYou need to go out more, virgin.
>>745345960>>745345809But my fiction with my perfect waifus...
Justin Wong literally just said on stream this is a 1 character 3 assist game.This isnt a versus game
>two balding old ass niggas on streamGod DAMN LOL
I have an ex-friend who ghosted me that's going there. Hope he drowns in pools, the cunt.
Avatar game is pretty fucking good
Why are Avatar announcers shilling Marvel on Avatar stream?
>>745346110why are you brown and posting aislop
>>745345763Strive ram and Unika who doesn't technically have a sword but basically uses what she has like a sword the way sol does since she's his grandkid. Beatrix in granblue.
>>745346037It’s not a tag game because there’s one lifebar.
>>745346102Should've entered to 0-2 him, you pussy.
>>745346162Its a1 character plus assist plus frame for that game
>>745346110The whole FGC is on Marvel it seems.
I once said this was a 1 character game w/ 3 assist characters and everyone bullied me
>>745346102Name him pussy.
TampaNeverSleeps is live at CEO 2026 for Marvel Tōkon. Yipes and Justin Wong break down Carnage tech, Ghost Rider mix-ups, and assemble counter baiting as bracket matches roll on.
>>745338136You can find plenty of them on ebay for $100. Probably cheaper if you get it used or 2nd hand via mercari
>>745346102Should've entered to 0-2 him and showed him nude photos of his wife, you pussy.
>>745346253i said the fucking same and the tokondrones came out of the woodwork to be like nuh uh theyre totally using all the characters
>>745346110Because the game looks really good and visually appealing as most post dbfz arc games do and is liked by loads of people which happens to included announcers you dumb slopjeet.
745346110745346276Your AI slop bores me.
I’m just happy that arcsy chose a hot character to be the high tier character . <3 magik
>post dbfz arc>looks really good and visually appealing
>>745346382Kill yourself tranny.
>>745346397Are you implying tokon isn’t visually appealing?
>>745346276Thanks. Prefer this over Avatar
What the fuck are the Tokon stage rules?
>>745346327>>745346253>>745346037>>745346221You fags are only saying it because Justin said it. It's still not true. Almost no one knows how to play yet, definitely not the people in pools. Playing one character only makes no sense when active tag is this strong
Who is the least used character in bb
avatar looks so much better than tokon though
>>745346397Yes dickhead the biggest reasons strive is the 2nd best doing arcsys game after dbfz is because it looks good, is almost Tekken tier simple to pick up, learn and play at a mediocre level, the music is appealing to normalfag anime watchers, and the game came out at an amazing time.
>Tokon>Supers>DHCs>It doesn't kill>Oh no! I'm controlling a character I didnt lab!>jump back and wait for a moment to tag your real character inLMMMAAAAOOOOOOO you literally cant convince me that Tokon isnt a poorly designed game
>>745346538There’s no reason to not use just the strongest character and supports. There’s only one (1) lifebar
>>745346537random first match, loser gets to "counterpick" if they want
>>745346538>Almost no one knows how to play yetYou're suggesting that even the pros who play 1 character 3 assist dont understand the game better than (You)?
>>745346612>magik>magik>magik>carnage>magik>robbie>magik>magikThis is like Tekken 8 patch where they released DLC Leroy.
>>745346632Play neutral with one character, start your pressure, active tag in to the character with actual mixups in the middle of your blockstring, use other characters to finish the combo. You now ended up with a different character than your original one.>>745346683>You're suggesting that even the pros who play 1 character 3 assistI literally watched a Diaphone match from his latest vod before posting to see if something had changed since I last paid attention to this game, but nope, he was changing characters.
>>745346705Magik has an excuse for being a girl.
>>745346538It has one lifebar holy shit nigga it isn't complicatedSFXT is more of a tag game than tokon is because you actually have 2 lifebars and need to be mindful to switch when low
>>745346612Just don't DHC into a character you don't know how to play. It's like complaining that Bursts are poorly designed because you don't know what a Burst-safe route is.
>>745346612what is bad about this, you make the decision to swap to your other characters, if you don't bother to learn them then don't swap
>>745346705Have you never seen people play a tag or arcsys game on release at day 1 of a tournament before?
tokon lost kek
>>745346253you can play it like that if you want to but watch all of the top level players and you will see tags and it is arguably more and more necessary as you the level of play goes up
Will you fuckers just wait until TGA and BAFTA to know who won?
>>745346764There are no benefits to changing. In fact certain characters work best at certain assist placement on the team so if you're tagging you're fucking up your most optimal assist placements on the team the game is badly designed
>>745346764>>745346927No you play magik
Avatar gameplay moggs Tokon if you put them side by side
>>745346896... the bad game awards competition because it was never invited anyway!
>>745346253Rookie mistake, stating an opinion before the pros tell you the narrative
>>745347045It does, tokon looks so slow and boring with tekken 8 effects everywhere
>>745347009>There are no benefits to changinghere's SonicFoxhttps://streamable.com/vgcx4pNotice he plays Spider-Man in neutral, then switches to Goblin when he gets a hit. I predict high level in this game is gonna be:>match starts, you maybe play a few instants of neutral considering you can move before the round starts>someone gets a hit, puts the other person in the corner while doing somewhere around 40%>now with meter and oki, next mixup kills>repeatExplains why there are so many rounds since round start is the only time you play neutral. It's gonna get boring fast
>>745334579>KOFXIII, Fate/UC, Divekick, Puyo Puyo Tetris 2, BBTAGhttps://www.twitch.tv/nuckledu>DOA5LR, MBTL, Tekken 5 DR, USF4, SCIIhttps://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgcBoth links are in reverse. DOA5LR and others are in nuckledu's stream. Fix it next thread.
>>745347186You didnt even argue my point that changing your assist placement will unoptimize your assist calls. Thats how the actual game functions right now and many pros talked about it
>>745347283>your assist placement will unoptimize your assist calls.Only if the assist is ass, like Carnage's vertical
>>745347283I didn't argue that point because it is true. Changing your assist placement fucks up with muscle memory too even. Doesn't change the fact that active tag is too strong to ignore. I guess we will see in a month or two.
>>745347092>Tokon had Tekken 8 effects
>>745337156I wouldn't get it. It has some serious design philosophy issues that come with trying to be a spiritual successor to an extremely broken, unpatched, 25-year-old Gamecube party game. Balance is horrible (though still better than Melee, but that bar is very low) because it's trying desperately to be Melee so the only characters worth playing are the Melee ripoffs and everyone else is just gimmick characters whose gimmicks do nothing but add extra steps between them and the Fox gold standard. There's an overemphasis on mechanics that make the game less about fundamentals and more just a hundred knowledge checks a minute about its needlessly-convoluted engine which tries to out-Melee Melee. A small playerbase made up entirely of sweats means you have to be okay with getting blown away 3-0 in under 90 seconds for the first 100 hours of playing before you start reliably standing your ground. And without going into detail about shielding+lack of whifflag+floorhugging, until you get your opponent above 60% or so, the whole game is about fishing for grabs.It's Early Access in name only and even the devs have admitted as much. They released the game in an incomplete state because they ran out of budget. Maybe in a couple years the game will be more complete and have a bigger playerbase with console, but now, I'd avoid it.
>50 minutes>we have seen the same 5 characters on tokon out of 20 rosterlol????
>>745347420The fuck
>>745347474>the only characters worth playing are the Melee ripoffs Meanwhile EVO grand finals was between Orcane and Forsburn, with a La Reina cameo, top 8 had Lox...
is the tokon stream running at 60fps?
>>745347420Grubbas...
>>745347679yeah the game just natively so slow
>>745347420I forget that Granblue has unironic trannies who show up from time to time on stream, like Rivals of Aether. Eugh.
>>745337156>>745347474*Unofficially Early Access, I mean>>745347583And yet it's always the same two or three players. When you look at top 16s or even top 8s (or even the whole playerbase), the Fox surrogate is the most popular.
avatar game looks sick
>>745347765i didn't mean it that way, I was playing a game and it was lagging my stream
>>745347879looks like a flash game
CEO will always be dead to me for jumping on the Infiltration ban so quicklyThe head of CEO is a sex pest too lol
>>745347803>the Fox surrogate is the most popular.Zetter and Clairen are the most popular and the ones reddit is always complaining about, asking for nerfs. But top players were for the most part complaining about Orcane, so much that he got a rework, and also about Lox after Stango showed everyone he was broken. Before, the strongest character for a long while was Olympia. I also forgot to mention:>>745347474> A small playerbase made up entirely of sweats means you have to be okay with getting blown away 3-0 in under 90 seconds for the first 100 hours of playing before you start reliably standing your ground.That's true for every fighting game other than the big 3 (SF6, Tekken, Strive) and Tokon for now because it's new. Go play something niche like UNI2 or VF5 and see what happens.
>>745347420tokonniggers... THESE are your heroes?!
>>745348021proof?also inflitration is a cornball
This thread solidifies Avatar as the larpers game of choice to use to shit on other games.
KOFXIII Top 4 and DOA5LR Top 4 is live!
>>745348098ESL jeet
>>745348059that's granblue retard
>>745348130stream?
>>745347420You get told if your match will be played on stream right? So do the tourney organizers deliberately pick these guys just because they are cosplaying or it's just a coincidence
>Shilling Marvel on Avatar Stream>All those PS5 adsDamm lol explains who gave them the money.
finna watch strive and avatar, maybe some tokon but that game is braindead af until they nerf assists spam in neutral and that demented reactable alpha counter
>>745348201>>745334579The links are in the wrong place.>KOFXIIIhttps://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgc>DOA5LRhttps://www.twitch.tv/nuckledu
>>745348260dont watch tokon it's been same 5 characters for 1 hour straight, imagine if watching strive but its only sol, ky, anji, may and ram nothing else
>>745348327magik, blade, loki and?
>>745348380carnage fuck its actually 4 same chacters
>>745348229Are you fucking retarded
>>745348327We have 2 storms on stream now you faglord.
Hol up, I just realize Justin and Yipes are wearing orange prison shirt? Wut?
Tokon is just dominated by long reaching normals in neutral into assist mix slop rn
>>745348327>>745348380>>745348441Literally had a Hulk, Magneto, Wolverine, Spiderman, Storm, shut the fuck up you stupid nigger
>>745348554they're wearin the costumes they wear in the street fighter movie.
>>745348609Ouh promo ads stuffs
>>745348609>Max, Yipes and Justin were foced in to the movie Is SonicFox and Arslan Ash there too. Daigo is there right? Daigo is on the movie right? Tell me Daigo is in the movie.
How long till we get another "avatar is so Godlike" mandated post?
>>745348685>forced into the movieyea i'm sure they just came to their houses and kidnapped themfucking retard
>>745348757That's how Max said it was. So is Daigo also in it? Why is Legendary Daigo not in the movie?!
avatar is so Godlike
>>745348868tokonsisters... it was our turn
Holy shit watching Tokon is actually pretty nice. I’m going to search for some high level matches.
Colossus combs Illyana's pubes
>>745348987it shoulda been me
>Strive evo champ getting humbled in Tokon
>>745349049>tokon already filtering striversgodlike game
>taking soive players seriouslyLOL
Tokon flopped, Avatar flopped, Invincible flopped, HxH flopped, 2xko flopped, Strive 2.0 flopped, CotW flopped, Tekken 8 flopped. SF6 is still king, you guys can stop pretending to like other games already. We all know you all were just pretending in order to get Capcom jealous so that they would update SF6 more frequently, but that was never gonna work because as much as you pretend to dislike it, none of you can stop playing it, as we can see from the steam charts.
>>745349049KSHUE NOOOOOOOOO. Maybe he'll be lucky in Avatar.
I love the pro wrestling gimmick of CEO
All those assists flying around looks great.
>>745349151Actually SF6 also flopped.
>>745349187that one time Harada was the last champ in the Tekken ceo event was so cool
>justin just said tokon's a 4v4 gameERRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMM TOKON ANTIS?!?!???!?!?!?!?!?!? THE GOD OF FIGHTAN JUST OBLITERATED OUR TRANNY PROPAGANDA, WHAT DO WE DO?!?!???!????????????!??!?!?!?!?!?
>>745347092You have not played or even looked at Tekken 8 to call them the same effects.
An other Magik vs Blade on tokon the 20 roster was absolute mistake
Avatar is fun to watch, I'm glad. Top 8 should be fun, hope there's a Zuko in there so I can learn something.
Oh yeah this board doesn't watch pools and get's surprised when pools things happen.
Toph's theme sounds familiar
Yeah I'm switching over to Tekken this tokon shit boring af
holy fuck that miracle yoshi on tekken stream
Will forever be angry that DOA might as well be dead. DOA5 top 4 is fun.
That Azula player going nuts!!
Guys, listen, I like Magik's design but I'm already tired to see her in EVERY match.
i've been tuned out of fighting games for like two years what should i watchi tuned into strive and there was an anji so i closed it
>>745349747If only more people were using Danger….
>>745349694We're getting a new DOA game bro
>>745349750There's Tokon and Avatar as the new hots
Avatar is so fun, but have you experienced the world of Avatar Aang: The Last Airbender? Paramount’s epic new movie, released July 2026, brings Aang and the world of bending to life like never before. Stream it now on Paramount+.
That Azula player is kino.
>>745349750I’d say either watch Jwong stream the ATLA fighting game, or go watch the community tournaments, ParagonFGC is streaming KOF 13 rn
>>745349617Based set
I'm having a blast watching this Azula!
>>745349793Until I see it beyond that teaser, I don't believe it. And then there will be the annoying hurdle of getting people to jump from their hating of Tekken 8 to play it instead.There was a lot of layered anger in that sentence I could have written out. I just want DOA to be alive again.
>>745349812does tokon have any MAHVEL hype>>745349847aint watchin jwong. kof might be alright tho
Damn, this Zuko is cracked
>>745349859Tekkentards notoriously hate DOA tho, they'll be busy ruining VF
>>745349873>does tokon have any MAHVEL hypeThis is pools right now but there's jwong and Yipes commentating.
>>745349876He was missing out on a lot of Redemption. Your support switches which moves give you recemption, those fireball loops weren't giving him any, he should use that combo for Mai support and change his BNB for R&S
>>745349747Better get use to it cuz we are seeing her all day.
>>745349694>DOA might as well be deador alive
>>745349936God, that's gonna be fascinating to watch, too. I consider VF offense to be REALLY hard. Probably frankly the hardest of the 3D genres to really handle.
Damm that Azula was so kino.
>>745349873It's not actually him, just a secondary steam for CEO and the main Avatar one has James Chen on it so the other commentators are better
>>745334496Exposing unc games on post at a time
>close tab because I got tired of watching Black Panther vs Magik>open it again>Magik vs MagikJesus.
>>745349997HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHA
>Tune in to Tokon>Magik vs Magneto>Tune out for few minutes>Magik vs Magik shit game with shit roster
>>745350076Man. If only if was some shit like Green Goblin vs Peni.
>>745349827Your AI slop bores me.
>>745348213Usually one of the players is highly seeded. I was put on stream cause I fought the best KI player in the city at my last major.
Now THAT's a Zuko who is used to different supports
>they censored the jew's flagkek
Why did the camera zoom in on 11Frames like that? That was nasty. Ugly fuck.
>>745350076and this is their post launch support schedule, just give up
>>745350247It's just Magik Magik Magik Magik and Magik throwing out brown portals.
>>745349105>>745349150sorry we have no experience with garbage tagslop
FENRITTI? IT'S OVER
The Leos are balling out in these Tekken pools
>>745349105real strivers are playing avatar as our second game, we don't waste our time on tagslop
>>745349151i never played a sf game in my whole life
Capcom fags still sore over MvC 4 not being a thing and are aggressively shitting on Tokon?
Crazy seeing people say Zuko is low tier, I main him and I think he's solid top 3.
Fenritti competing Tokon? So the japs do like the game.
>>745350416he's just in it for the money
>>745350416Fenritti plays anything that gives him money
>>745349747How did they even nail her design? Was she always destined to become popular in anime style?
>>745350412it's a skill issue. Like saying K', Ash or K999 are low tier.
>>745350463>>745350464based hustler
just picked up tokon, are there any peni or danger players I should copy homework from
avafart bros...
>>745350463>>745350464Ouh. Guess we'll see on EVO Japan next year for the results then.
>>745350494Bro. Magik is a good design. Anime style or not.
>>745350464>>745350463Which is why he plays Blazblue right? For the lucrative nonexistent money. Fucking idiots.
>>745350543its that tiktok tranny
>>745350586japan hates slopkon, cope
>>745350575She looks too manly in the comics.
>>745350586yes, how did you figure that out?
>>745350532very underplayed characters
>>745350543I saw so many angry trannies over Mike Z being in the game and it turns out that wasn't enough to deter them from playing it. Fucking hypocrites of the highest order.
>>745350543/hsg/ mentioned
https://pattheflip.medium.com/postmortem-the-godkings-post-apocalyptic-death-game-e92f9637f960Fired 2xko dev post.
>one of the two characters in the GFs for DOA5>Is Mai>Who you can no longer buy>And therefore cannot lab againstHow is she not a banned tournament character
>>745350640wtf are tokon players gay or something where are the waifufags
>>745349747The funny thing I'm getting from this situation is that being a Marvel game doesn't matter at all. I doubt anyone playing Magik has ever read a comic, and she hasn't been in the movies either, so she might as well be an original character. This game could have been a new IP and as long as it had a cute blonde girl it would sell the same.
>>745350416JP enjoying Tokon yeah
>>745350685Pat is an idiot and I'm glad he failed. Fucking Xturder.
my wife Toph is so strong!
>nobody watching shitkken 8thank god that game is dying
Carnage’s so vicious.
>>745350720>and she hasn't been in the movies either
>>745350709You'll play Magik and LIKE IT
>>745350720>she hasn't been in the moviesWrong. She was in the flopped X-men movies. She was even played by Anya Taylor Joyhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt4682266/
after 2 hours we finally see deadpool vs carnage
>>745350773I'm watching, this shit is actually hype
>>745350773it doesn't matter, Bamco is an actual demonic company
>>745350532I've seen Danger on the replay channels but no Peni.
>>745350839There was 2 other carnage players today to.
The only game I hate in this thing is Melee.
i'm surprised by how many carnages
Neutral in Tokon is so gay. When the tag pressure starts it's cool but the neutral is lame as fuck.
>>745351010There's Ultimate?
>>745350814>>745350829I stand corrected, but I doubt people became Magik fans because of this movie
justing looks like hes dead inside
TROOOONTROOON ON THE AVATAR STREAM
>>745351017He is also pretty easy to pick up and play
>>745351207nah avatar's a white man's game
MikeZ is taking notes
Wake me up when SonicFox plays
>>745351017He does five billion damage and Mutilate is a really good move to tag out of
>>745351252That nigga gigacanceled
>>745349750Get ready to see more>>745349747These are arcsys game pools what are you expecting?
>>745344851>VEGAI'm watching SF2 now but why is Vega showing as Balrog?
>>745351357what the actual fuck happened in s5
>>745351357>LucyWhy didn't they even try to make her a little decent?Where are all Dizzy legacy players?
I suck with Storm, how do you even play her?
>>745351357Respect for the one who use Robo Ky. Probably gonna instantly drowned in pools but still.
>>745351468Why would legacy players play a completely different version of the character with none of the stuff they liked about her?
>>745351468>Why didn't they even try to make her a little decent?She's decent but not decent enough to warrant playing her over Chipp>Where are all Dizzy legacy players?Strive Dizzy plays way differently
>>745351357wtf. I thought potenkim was mega busted. waht happened?
>>745351384Ah just looked it up. I'm a bit late coming to understand that. Like by multiple decades.I'll get my coat.
>>745351556Pachi vanished from Strive and is fucking up Tokon now
>>745351357>0 HC or NagoDid they finally put those characters in the dirt?
>>745351357>7 AxlsWhat's going on over there in GG
>>745351608slut
I hate how nobody mentions it especially since you gotta do the story mode to unlock a character but Tokon's story mode was GARBAGE. Literally no plot, no spice, nothing. At least DBFZ had fanservice but Tokon? NADA unless OH DLC BAIT DLC BAIT DLC BAIT
I don't like how Tokon's looks, I get zoomer-valorant vibes from it.
>>745351603Nago is still strong desu
>>745351603They put Chaos in the dirt, Nagoriyuki's still alright.
finally we saw Cletus vs Norman
>>745351713Very based
>>745351670its the only decent looking fighter this gen
>>745351602Pachi never worked on Strive, he went from Xrd to Granblue to Tokon.
>>745351750nigga are u blind
Can /ourgirl/ Magik beat 7 Leroys in the Tekken final?
>>745334496>sf2>corner>jumpin comboszoomzoom
>>745351556He literally wonmost pot mains are too retarded to make use of how good he is desu>>745351603HC is genuinely fucking dead, Jack still got 2nd at combo breaker with him but dropped him afterwardsNago lost his easy mix and has a weaker command throw, but he's still decent because he fucking kills you in 4 hits. I think they mostly made his matchup spread even more varied. idk if Verix was there
>>745351657>Complaining fighting games story
>>745351670because it looks like animeshit but they're capeshit chars, hence why it flopped it has no intersection fanbase
Damn, DOA5GFs mighta had trannies but it was hilarious seeing 11Frames slowly lose composure because he got downloaded. Dude was so fucking angry.
>>745351406Uhh Millia and axl are top tier/good now, nago, ram and Leo are still top 3 after pot got nerfed from top 2 to top 8, happy chaos got thrown in the garbage with only 1 person wanting to still play him and succeed at doing so and aba is less money retard proof so her main abandoned her. Anji is the same monkey he's always been and benefits from 2.0>>745351468Arcsys knows people don't want a top tier dlc guest character so they just made her a slightly more mid Giovanna. Also no ex dizzy player is gonna wanna play strive dizzy since she's both not top tier or the same lol
>>745351837I mean P4A and P4AU is fine. Blazblue is decently good but Tokon had like 0 effort at all. I'm actually genuinely surprised at how bad it was.
>>745337064bloodriot
>>745351907>Arcsys knows people don't want a top tier dlc guest character 2B Granblue?
Korra looks like the kind of character I hate to face
>>745351893its a cool one, would have been amazing if more characters were in it, in a wide shot
>>745351790On point, probably not, but I expect every team in the top 8 will have one of Magik, Black Panther, Blade and Spiderman in some slot.
>>745351974daily reminder korra was 21 and azula was 14
>>745351884Fun little tournament, game remains the peak of 3D fighters. I guess I'll wait for Tekken 5DR next but apart from that I am already running out of things to watch.Rachel wins
>>745351974you gotta deal with her
>>745351556Despite the board's protests they did nerf Potemkin in a way that matters even if he can still be a pain to fight on some particular characters.>>745351603HC yes. Nago no he's just a very popular character so people know how to fight against him and the small amount of nerfs he received made him slightly more manageable to deal with.
>>745351670its because of star lord
>>745351952They learned it from 2B which is why she is mid at best now
Not James Chen...
>>745352045Holy side tits
Chen unironically mogs 95% of commentators
I thought Tokon had Mariana Trench depth and the characters everyone said they're top 4 since day -2 weren't actually that because people were just discovering the game
>>745351670ngl the game looks chopped with the cartoon tracer graphics
>>745352167Shame he's a chaser
>>745351952That was genuinely all cygames and that motherfucker okubo from SC that got 2b in SC then ditched bamco for cygames and immediately used his connections to put her in rising for cygames.
Community tourneys suffering delays again
>>745352167when he commentates Tetris, 100%
>>745352171People were right about Green Goblin being potential man though've
>>745352167uh no
CAP PIc lfg!!!
>>745334496I never played a real fighting game in my life and I'm trying to learn SF6, any advice?I did the tutorial and took 10mins to pass the part where I had to do 2 crouching lights confirming into an uppercut :)
>>745352084>they did nerf Potemkin in a way that mattersPotemkin's biggest nerfs are system nerfs desuHe's not gonna give a shit about Hammerfall losing to lows against someone like May
>>7453517812XDQ is off to a great start
old Marvel players trying one or 2 non meta chars to not kill themselves out of boredom is pretty funny to watch
>>745334496They always claim execution is harder in old games but it gets progressively much more difficult in this clip.
THAT'S MY CAPTAIN, LET EM KNOW STEVE
Fate/UC Top 4 and MBTL Top 4 is live!
>simple tag game mixup and j. pickup combo>OOOOOHHHH AHHHHHHHH OH MY GAWWWWWD
>>745352353>60% DQ rate in round 1>one is from the top performing players for your game
>>745352281lol i like it but why yellow, they shoulda done orange blue like the game's title
as a cap main this is swaggy af
>cap can use his shield to cover forward rollcool
>>745352439That's because the games become more combo-heavy, but the basic execution of moves in older games is harder.SF4 has 1f links for bnbs but if you hit df twice and a button you get a DP.
YO CAP, ULLLLLLLLLLLLLLSTEPHEN ROGERIUS
That Cap play was sick as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox4H_0c7DCE
wow so arcsys finally made captain america an interesting movesetcapcom never did
>>745352576Well when you have to do the combos to win, it would seem that the execution requirement in the new games is in fact much higher.
>>745352620fuck this mogs flopkon
It's kind of coincidental how in most Spiderman comics the villain is green.
>>745352638Not that anon but having more moves doesn't make your combo harder. A hypothetical 3 hit combo where you have 1 frame to link the first hit into the second, and then the third move is a pretzel motion, is gonna be way harder than any 15 hit combo from SF6 with a bunch of drive rush cancels.
>>745352638I don't play much SF2, but personally I still miss inputs in SF3 to this day, I don't really miss my bnbs in SF4/5, so personally I disagree.I don't think this is a badge of honor or anything, I prefer the more lenient inputs.Not sure about 6, never played it.
THE CHAMP IS HERE
Fate/UC is live for real this time. Holy delays.
Arcsys forgot Magik is a demon
>>745352547What do you mean? His shield stops the wake up roll?
>>745352353>>745352514What's happening here? Nobody wants to play it?
>>745352757>A hypothetical 3 hit combo where you have 1 frame to link the first hit into the second, and then the third move is a pretzel motion, is gonna be way harder than any 15 hit combo from SF6 with a bunch of drive rush cancels.Both are much harder than SF2 execution requirements.
>>745352886Fuck you mean forgot her having the powers she has and the big ass sword is probably why they made her top tier in the 1st place.
>>745352886No they didn't she has her demon form.
REPLY TO ME THE BROKEN LINKS SO I FIX THEM FOR NEXT THREAD
tokon has more sauce than i thought it would
Super Turbo is so sick man I should learn to play it
>>745352638SF6 combos are baby mode easy for 99% of them
>>745353009so the whole game would have looked like the shaders on the classic cap and iron man costumes
>>745353075stream where?
>>745352990Tokon has beaten the sauceless allegations for a while now
>>745352907Yes it's kinda like how at that evo a bunch of 2xko and rivals entrants dqed to the point strive would probably be above both in actual players. Or was it just rivals and I'm confusing 2xko with that time a third of all cotw entrants dqed.
>>745352990>Get 2 sauce fighters in a month>FGC still bitches
>>745352898idk what's the exact setup but he can throw the shield, if you back roll you land in to the shield and if you neutral/forward roll he's in range for a meaty
>>745353183twitch.tv/atarifgc
>>745353183https://www.twitch.tv/atarifgc
best storm comic runs?
>>745353075can you cancel a normal into a special?congrats you can play st
>>745353267>>745353268>streaming in the retro categoryI was looking for all the sf2 related categories and finding nothing, thanks
>>745352990isnt too much sauce really unhealthy?
>>745353009Anyone with a brain and who will potentially buy arcsys games wants arcsys games to look anime, like arcsys games tend to. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>745346102>>745346186>>745346259>>745346318Just watched him get 0-2 bodied. Hahahaha.
dooms setplay seems really fun
brap
>>745352439try to combo a super in st
tokon looks fun enough I'd be happy to buy it at full price if the pc port wasn't awful
>>745353137so what people actually wanted...
>>745353106No they aren't.
>>745353415I should commission some Shuri braps...
>>745353009>hire company know to make fighting games stylized like 2D anime>surprised they wanted it to look like 2D animeimagine if every character looked like pred tony stark at the win screen with the legacy costume in this game
>>745353425I can. It's much easier than doing the last combo in the OP video.
>>745353549the patch on monday fixed all my issues with the game besides wifi freaks running the game below min requirements
>>745353364Look at umvc3. I practice my hyper grav loops daily
blade back assist is too good lol
>>745353397And yet you didn't do it yourself. You're a coward.
>>745353780blade is good in every slot
>tune in to tokon>carnage vs magik
>i'm one of the only guys playing magneto on pointis that a mistake
>>745353902yipes it's over
>>745353902hes too damn slow
low level pools in Avatar is funny to watch in a way I haven't enjoyed since vanilla Marvel 3
how old is james chen wtf
Did anyone even know who Magik was like 2 years ago? now she's insanely popular
>>745354072literally no one
>>745354072first time i saw her was in the midnight sons game
>>745353902>most popular loki assist is projectilebut it sucks?
>>745352919wrong. guitar hero's "do you feel like we do" is the hardest combo in fighting games.
all of dooms line in this game make him sound like a power tripping janny
>>745353982it might be a pretty high damage/low touch game but it still feels like no matter what, as long as you have health, you have a chance to take the round
SOURDOUGH BREAD
>>745353801I don't play fightan vidya
>>745352439you have never played a fighting game in your life.
>>745337156It's just a good game by good developers. I more or less agree with >>745338436, especially that it deserves recognition for doing what it does right.I do have some criticisms of it, but I do think some common criticisms are absurdly exaggerated. For example, some of what >>745347474 said:>trying to be a spiritual successor to an extremely broken, unpatched, 25-year-old Gamecube party gameIt's not trying to be a successor to Melee. If anything, its closest Smash equivalent is PM / P+, and it the moment-to-moment gameplay feels significantly different from Melee for reasons that would take too long to get into, but basically come down to execution barriers and intentional design.>Balance is horribleAbsolutely false. It's one of the better balanced fighting games I've played, and easily the most balanced platform fighter. Every character is competitively viable, although there are some uneven MUs (which is inevitable in any fighting game, but especially platform fighters). Tournament brackets and the ranked ladder both disprove this unequivocally.>There's an overemphasis on mechanicsEach character's gimmick takes getting bamboozled by once or twice to understand, and the system mechanics themselves are much more intuitive than other platform fighters'.>A small playerbaseThis is a legitimate criticism, especially if you live outside of NA / EU.>shieldingNerfed recently.>lack of whifflagThe addition of gameplay modifiers opens up the floor to actually discuss whifflag. I agree that either frame data needs to be adjusted on some tilts or whiff lag needs to be added.>floorhuggingThe biggest fucking nothingburger controversy I've ever seen. Floorhugging is perfectly fine and serves a practical purpose in both RoA2 and in Melee (through ASDI / CC). It's a grass is greener situation.Just my two cents.
>>745354486
this cap is so nervouse...
>>745354290All of his assists suck but he's good on point. He's probably popular as shooter assist because it makes it easy to tag him in, not for the actual assist.
>>745347803>And yet it's always the same two or three playersHow is top players consistently placing in top 8 supposed to be a bad thing? It just shows that the game consistently rewards actual skill and experience.
>>745348054>Zetter and Clairen are the most popular and the ones reddit is always complaining about, asking for nerfsThe Zetterburn whining on Reddit is out of fucking control. He's pretty balanced, and nowhere near the level of Melee Fox; he also has a concrete ceiling that other characters with more complex mechanics don't have, even if that ceiling is easier to reach because of how he functions. He's less like Melee Fox and more like Melee Sheik or Ultimate Palutena - a fundamentally strong character who does well while the game is young, but who will probably feel his limitations more and more over time.
>finally enjoy a new fighting game (Avatar)>it releases right on top of Marvel Tokon for some fucking reasonIt clearly needed more dev time for QA anyway, would pushing the release date back a month or two really have hurt them? Its clear someone at the top wasn't listening anyway.Its a shame because they've been very quick with bugfixes and the game plays fucking amazingly well with really neat systems and it looks really fucking good. People who think it looks like a flash game haven't actually genuinely looked at what flash games really looked like with their 2026 eyes on modern monitors.
this Cloned troon is pretty plabbable i dare to say
>>745346594Because it is. The game gives the great movement to your character, instead of making everything rely on tag.Tag is ass. The opponent does a tag to skip neutral, dash while you're blocking his bullshit, does some 4 second blockstring that would finish punishable on your block, then activates tag and now you have to eat a mix. All day of this shit.I hate tag so much it's unreal. Why is almost every new game nowadays being tag? Fuck tag, me and my niggas all hate tag. Tag is for trannies
that slayer vs zato match was really good
>>745356107trannies actually don't like tag. Tag is for niggers and hispanics
The Tokon UI is so good- nice looking health and super gauges- hit information in the corners of the screen- combo meter a good addition and not intrusive- damage numbers up near the health bar- character color is visible on the assist portraits so you know who is playing the orange black panther
>>745356736It's not the most visually remarkable but it is informative. It would be nice if the hidden style meter was visible in some way and maybe they could have a visual indication of when you're able to assist on the assist icons.