Kill all localizers
>>745352110Generals belong on /vg/
>>745352110Let them cook, fr fr no cap
>>745352110>should we introduce people so something potentially new and interesting, despite being foreign>No. Lol.
>>745352110How the fuck are these retards simultaneously advocates for "diversity" and "inclusion," and yet they flatten any and all actual cultural differences? Why the fuck would I play a Japanese game set in Japan if I didn't want Japanese culture in it??
>>745352583Japan is honorary white to them, unironically.
>>745352110The game: turboweeb adventure dokodoko tsundere panic that only sells 1000 copies in the west to the biggest weebs that already know what gyaru culture is
>>745352110>umautistyou deserve itstay off my board
>They use the classic tactic of showing an "accurate" (shit and wrong) translation and then the revision to trick people into believing their shit is actually goodImagine being an EOP, lmao.
>>745352583Naturally diversity does not apply to white-coded nations.
>>745352110learn japanese or stop playing tranny games, you make your own problems faggot
>introducing new culture>cultural erasure because we're transgender and it has to be about gender erasure which is just cultural erasureWhy can't I refute OP? I've read the bible and I can't find a single rule in there that claims he is wrong.
>>745352996Even then people speak like "plain" nobody talks like the cygames translation besides sheltered HR Karens
>>745352996Im fine with trying to make the gyaru still like Gen Z slang, but changing "Thats a great idea" to "Let Her Cook" is retarded. This just sounds like the Localizers taking creative liberties since they are all failed writers.
>>745352996loving these plain translations
You do not hate loc*lizers enough.
I'm trying to learn Japanese now. How do I do it faster?
>>745352583The same way they advocate for fag rights and importations of muzzies at the same time. The only consistent stance is their hate towards western society and white people (which Japs are part of in their minds).
>>745353531if anything Gyaru would be "Valley Girl" californian with occasional mixes of honorifics and Japanese terms they are used to saying IRL.
>>745352110>creating authenticity>inauthentic translationDIE
>>745353803consume more media in the language
>>745352583Diversity means brown and black specifically. Japanese people and culture are not included.
>>745353803get one of those dictionary books that have the readings by sound and work through them and a dictionary that has all the daily kanji and how to write/read them in correct order. work through each page per day until you get it: don't move past a page until you got it memorized. you got to spend at least 3 hours a day on this shit to get good at Japanese.
>>745352996>>745353672>>745353765>>745352110The only place these niggers belong is on a cross or outside in a box in an alleyway with the rats they worship
>>745352110I concur what a shit localization. Just call her a gal you dumb niggers
>>745353672>Im in the soupShakespeare said "Brevity is the soul of wit" and while it usually applies to length, it absolutely should apply to style too. Like, "Okey dokeyyyy" yeah, thats fine. But what the fuck does that line even mean. Same here >>745352996 sure call the dish Umstagram Worthy. That's fine, but why the fuck did we add "Let it Cook" when what she said was totally fine. If it sounds retarded with the change than saying it in normal English, then say it in normal fucking English. " A totes great idea" makes way more sense than "let her cook". Valley Girl is probably what gyaru slang should be
>>745353893>>745353925Do either of you know how to read or speak japanese?
>>745353817"ethnic" (foreign) representation into "first world" (Europe, America, UK, JP, Australia) cultures and "gender/sexuality" enforcement is what DEI stands for.
>>745353803>How do I learn [thing that notoriously takes years] fasterMove to the countryGet a girlfriend that speaks itThere are no shortcutsA girl I used to know who spoke it well learned by starting in pre-teens and spending years.Another guy I used to know who learned it in a relatively short time frame of 4 years did so by doing a year of exchange in Japan after spending 3 years with courses.
>>745354080I could order ramen at a stall about that? (basically survival tier Japanese.) speaking Japanese is not what you need to get good at for gaming but reading.
>>745354080yes I learned it when I was 16 for fucking visual novels by spamming anki for a year and then just reading visual novels all day until my brain stopped hurting. I was unemployed though so that strat might not work for you
>>745352258Back to Bluecry with you nigger
>>745353893Consoooom oh my Tim Apple I'm consooooming
>>745352583Your parents might've failed to tech you this but: it's not always about you. The majority of people want a cozy, easy game they can plug and play. Not some obscure and confusing "authentic" work of fiction. Once you realize and accept that you are a niche minority you will be less angry at the world not being just you.
im a localizer and you cant win.translate しかたがない as something other than "it cant be helped" and its oh no you literally killing the nippon spirit and destroying the original vision.translate more direct and its "no this is too robotic and stiff"that said some of translations my colleagues go with make me want to ask them what they are thinking
>>745352583Because they don't actually want diversity, they want everyone to exist in the same American progressive gentrified culture with only superficial differences such as food.
Learn japanese.
>>745354180anki is probably the most dogshit way to learn it if you are just memorizing for visual novels because it doesn't help with weird phrases or shit like that which you will encounter in video games and visual novels. guaranteed you couldn't read through umineko or higurashi, maybe Steins;Gate?
>>745352258Based armchair jannyGOD
>>745352110>hello, i would like to purchase one japanese game set in japan please>wait, you didn't remove the japanese culture from it first? what the FUCK? that's it, i'm getting a refund!There is no way that this scenario is common enough to warrant these kinds of rewrites.
>>745353803Short answer. Immersion. Just watch anime and try to read it. Play VNs, watch manga, ect. Don't be afraid to look up stuff. You'll start to pick up on stuff. If you are starting out though, make sure you do at least the N4 grammar stuff. Get an Anki deck and watch some videos. Tokini Andy has a good N5/4 series. Maybe do the N5 listening early on. This is just to get a foundation so it sounds a bit less like gibberish but the end goal should be reading manga and LN, playing games, watching anime ect. I will say that even doing it a bit has helped me. You just start to pick up on shit you missed before when you were just studying.
>>745354161i would say moving to japan alone doesnt do it just like having a gym membership doesnt make you buff. you have to actively study.but then again i got lazy about studying and passed the n2 when i thought i was gonna fail and the listening was way easier than i expected
>>745354336Of course I couldn't read entire novels without looking shit up constantly when I started, that's the point of reading the novels. You just do anki for a little while so you have a baseline to grow from, I probably should have dropped it even earlierYou just start with generic moe or nukige trash and then work your way up
>>745354274Honestly what’s wrong with "It can’t be helped"Yeah, it shows up a lot, that happens in every fuckin’ language.
>>745352110>cygames trannyslators being retardedwow, what a fucking surprise
>>745354618You should have ended with "it can't be helped" kek
>>745354586>nukige as the first thing. eww, brother. eww.just practice reading normal old Japanese like the folklores so you can dunk on nips with Tale of Genji or The Tale of Princess Kaguya, you'll pick up a lot of useful kanji that way.
>>745354618localization mafia has declared nobody uses it even though you can find it in english language books from 80+ years ago
>>745352110>gyaru culture is not very well-knownhuh? I guess nowaday, maybe, but anyone who's over 25 and has the vaguest knowledge of japan knows what a fucking Gyaru is, they were essentially a parallel to goth girls in the west
>>745354618>Yeah, it shows up a lot, that happens in every fuckin’ language.it just can't be helped.
>>745354540I am just starting out, I imagine once I get to the point I can understand and read a little, I'll be able to start moving really fast, but getting there is going to take a lot of discipline since I'm not seeing any pay off.Right now I've just been practicing with https://djtguide.neocities.org/kana/ so I'll check out Tokini Andy.
>>745352583It was never about equality. It was about making money by reaching to the widest audience possible.
>>745354760I don't want to "dunk on nips" anon, I want to jerk off and then read a 3 hour long Masada battle scene that is completely irrelevant to the actual plot progression
>>745352996>ターボいい波ノッってね~!>こーなっやら、『ぺが盛りレインボーカツカレー』作るしか!I see that it's kind of hard to localize that. The 'plain translation' doesn't quite catch the gyaru feel, so they layered the zoomer filter over it to give it the personality. Whether it's appropriate or not is up for debate.
>>745354546I mean this is rather self evident, no?You are not going to learn it by osmosis through the air if you move there but just basement dwell.The guy was doing an exchange, he studied one years worth of college courses in their language.But then this is 4chan + Nippon thread so it's probably worth spelling it out loud for the spectrum guys.
>>745352110I got a 30 day ban for violating US law for saying what I think of Mastercard and Visa, but the OP of this thread is allowed to spread vile, clear cut, death threats without punishment? What the heck?? Does 4chan and the companies who advertise here support calls for violence???
>>745354871I recommend writing those things down in a notebook in a repeat while voicing them out (literal practice taught in schools). separate some study time. do it the first thing in the morning if you can so your brain focuses on it better.
>>745354618Nothing, it has existed widely before any of us or those faggots were born, there are also plenty of different wording you can use if your only issue is repeating the phrase over and over, without resorting to quirky chungus. The 仕方がない argument was always disingenuous and exists only in regards to japanese to english translations, you never it invoked in regards to other languages unless they're particularly colonized.
>>745354824the people in those positions aren't in it for the culture nor are they in them for the promotion of it
>>745353826some dubs have used valley girl for gyarushttps://youtu.be/nKRHuck289k&t=30
>>745354992kikelizers are subhuman animals that require culling, paypal/visa jews are also subhuman animals for grovelling to Collective Shout.
>>745354273when will they localize dune to take place in harlem and the jyhad was breaking all the anti-theft locks in wallgreens
>>745354618languages do not map to one to each other.a common phrase in japanese doesnt map to an equivalent phrase in english of the same meaning, nuance, register, commonality, etcthis is something you comr to understand when you study a foreign language.in a given sentence, the jp might use some elevated poetic word for the noun, but a basic verb. then when translating you realize there is no near equivalent noun in english, a basic noun is whats usually used, but instead there is in fact a sinilarly heightened verb. so you lower the register of the noun but raise the verb to preserve as much of the intended register as possible in the whole sentence, rather than word for word which is impossible. this is how translation should be done, not word for word trabsliteration. at the same time its not free license to take the loosest interpretation of the idea that you can xhange the text abd therefore can make up whatever you want, which is what dumbass localizers like you see in the inages of this thread do. those are the same people who say dumb shit like shit "fantasy game/show has magic or some nonreal component, therefore nothing has to be tied to reality"
>>745354940Generally it's difficult to directly translate these sort of tonal nuances and stereotypical dialects because they rely on features specific to the language or that lack the same associations outside of it.
the bitch/slut discussion is actually funny to me because the Japanese are using the word 100% correctly but the western world has just decided it doesn't mean that anymore even though it does and is still used that way.
>>745355079>yaaas queeen!is not valley girl slang man. that's zoomer brainrot.
>>745354824>but anyone who's over 25 and has the vaguest knowledge of japan and that's one of the fucking points anon. when I started to follow anime/manga like 2 decades ago, I also didn't had knowledge of Japan or most of its culture. But all the explanations and translators notes helped me to learn about it. now if I get curious about something I don't know, I just search google since you can't find the answer in literally 5 seconds. localizers remove all the chance for new fans to learn or grow since they don't want people to learn about different cultures, specially the otaku one since they clearly hates it.
>>745355229>zoomer brainrot>2016
>>745354896It's not even about making money. Woke games constantly flop but they keep making them. It's propaganda.
>>745355212the difference in the west you will get cancelled if you in the workplace call a woman a bitch or a slut. twitch forbids you from calling prostitutes working girls, whores and sluts when that's a fact if its to discriminate them. stupid policies, lmao.
>>745352110>gyaru culture is not well knownTHEN LEAVE IT THAT WAY, IF NIGGAS WANNA LEARN LET THEM LEARN. IF NIGGAS ARE DENSE AND RETARDED AND SKIP ON THE GIRL THEN LET THEM. LET THE NIGGAS WHO KNOW ENJOY THE SHIT THEY KNOW, NOT BUTCHER IT TO A ZOOMER CONTENT CREATOR CARICATURE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>745354790>it existsstrawman.the point is not whether certain expressions exist or not, its how often they appear.or other situations where the whole meaning of the word not does not have an equivalent in english. the reason you watch some anime and the hero says to the bad guy "i wont forgive you" and the bad guy freaks out like he just got told the sickest burn is because 許す and forgive are not the same
>>745355291oldest zoomer was 20 at the time. retard.
>>745354320Cute speaki!
>>745355015I've been trying to practice in the evenings, I haven't done much in my notebook, but it would probably help a lot more, even though my hand writing is terrible. It is a little annoying that the notebook I've been practicing in only has horizontal lines. It would be nice to print out some japanese practice worksheets, but I also kind of want to keep all the practice contained to that notebook. I wouldn't know where to find worksheets like that anyways.
>>745354943no its not aelf evident to people unfortunately which is why it warrants saying
>>745355386yes we have all read that lolcowlizers twitter threads, nobody cares
>>745355064>it exists therefore using it equally as often is fine and the only other option is reddit memespeakstrawman terminally online brainrot
>>745355475just write up-down nigga? flip the notebook. or get a bullet journal, they are basically dotted journals instead of gridded.
>>745354871Yeah if you are just starting then you want to do the study/grammar grind for a bit. Get an Anki deck if you haven't already. Make sure you practice hiragana and katakana. And do study the Kanji. They seem like complete bullshit but it actually makes reading pretty easy. I'd do the N5/4 Kanji but some other Nihon Jouzu anons might have a better set. The dictionary I use is Shirabe Jisho and its pretty good.And of course, don't be afraid to dip your toes into immersion. Find some anime and turn off the subtitles. Try to read a bit (fine if there is a dictionary in your hand). Hell, go on Steam and get a VN and play it in Japanese. Goal is to be able to play the games in their original language so no reason you can't struggle, even early on. And yes, it takes time. Some people can go N1 in a fast amount of time but go at your own pace. As long as you get not shit at it. Ganbare anon
>>745355485>make bad argument>get explained why youre wrong>dont careyou just want to be upset.
>>745355567tunk tunk tunk sahur
>>745352110
>>745352110>valley girl speech>gen z niggerbabbleOne of these things is not like the other one of these things
>>745352996>Turbo's riding a good wave!from google translatewas that so hard?
>>745355674yes anon you are so right I just want to be upset, please bring up how クリスマス doesn't mean Christmas nextThese are very original talking points
>>745355567I'm literally saying there are plenty of ways of saying the exact same thing without resorting to bullshit, what are you even arguing about, who are you quoting?
12 years ago people told me not to live in japan and while i enjoyed many things they were right.what people dont explicitly tell you is that even grinding away the language, codingz or whatever skill and finally getting a real position at a big company will still pay lrss than flipping burgers at mcdonalds in america.salaries in japan are a joke
>>745354940>The 'plain translation' doesn't quite catch the gyaru feel,maybe they could just let players use you know, their fucking ears and learn from actual experience how and why it actually feels different. it's basically the same with stuff like kansai-ben or okinawa-ben. no matter what the written translation shows, you just can't grasp how different it feels without actually listening to it.
>>745352996We are reaching how do you do levels of fellow kids that shouldn't be possibleWhy the FUCK are they proud of this
>>745355096@FBI @hiroyuki @grokDO SOMETHING THIS ANON IS POSTING WRONGTHINK
>>745352583They mean diversity in a masonic sense: mixing together everything into a single pot like in Elden Ring.
>>745353881The original wasn't authentic enough
>>745354274Whatever.
>>745355603I did say it was a little annoying. That's all it is. I've taken to adding vertical lines with a ruler.>>745355663If I just keep sinking time into it and don't let myself stagnate on familiar material, I should get there eventually. I don't have a dictionary yet, is that something critical to get early?Is there an anime you'd recommend for immersion? I'd want something long and simple with a lot of episodes, so maybe it'd be a good excuse to watch precure.
>>745355859my mind is 24/7 bullet proof against kike agendas, torture and harassment: I practice wrongthink on purpose to terrorise those loons who think their imaginary reality is real. Jews have zero protection and zero allies left.
>>745355837It's not just the "sound" (as you've rightfully pointed out with different dialects) but the playful word choice plays a big part
>>745352110>Cygames equates being a whore to being a zoomerROFL
>>745355782you have failed to make a single covincing argument.i know you go to 4chan to let out your life frustrations and win arguments to feel better about yourself and that this isnt going your way
>>745355808huh what whatre you talking about what does that mean huhsigns you lost and resort to huh? memes
>>745352583Inclusion (of as many customers as possible) means making the world homogenous in culture.
>>745355859This localization adds so much additional information that wasn't in the original. If the original didn't use any kind of metaphor, don't add one in English.
>>745355970genuinely great localization
>>745352583The seething Aino-fearing troons are hollering at this anon
>>745355983>If I just keep sinking time into it and don't let myself stagnate on familiar material, I should get there eventually. I don't have a dictionary yet, is that something critical to get early?Yes because you can look up anything you see or hear. The one I recommend has a good flash card feature and the words will have more complex examples. I'd say get one now.>Is there an anime you'd recommend for immersion? I'd want something long and simple with a lot of episodes, so maybe it'd be a good excuse to watch precure.I'd recommend Cinderella Grey but the YouTube subtitles on it suck. Generally, you want to do Japanese subtitles. Usually anything made for kids is good but do something you might like. I'm actually going through the Umamusume Starting Gate manga and its still a struggle.
>>745354273The majority of people aren't buying a fucking anime game you brain dead dick sucking moron.
>>745356306a physical dictionary is better than pure anki: you can just read through the pages and learn things you would never have looked through for, they often have examples of usage with a kanji dictionary and a literal dictionary? its even better once you get there.
Can you imagine these retards in the 80s?Ninja, Samurai, Sushi, Karate. All loanwords with no translation that were instantly accepted into the lexicon.They would be demanding we translate those words and then justify never translating them ever because "people don't know the culture". Yes dumbass because you assholes KEEP CENSORING IT.
>only direct translation is goodpeople dont know enough about how much their favorite japanese games have changes in them
>>745352583Leftists want their faggy Euro-Californian monoculture to rule the world. Diversity is just a stepping stone to complete cultural ruination.
I hate these threads so, so much. Not because you're wrong. Localizers are a blight. But because it's so demoralizing to see all their destruction in plain sight going unpunished, or even praised by faggots.
>>745356175You're arguing against something that is not in my post so the only way I can react is in confusion, other than calling you a nigger, you nigger.
>>745356542Just because you can't see the punishment doesn't mean it isn't happening. Grapes of wrath and all that.
i only ever see these horrible localizations in these threads.i guess i dont play enough low budget slop
>>745356515Japanese is a retardedly boring language and most of the puns that make it interesting are pretty much untranslatable. But the people complaining the loudest still think dostedt is a word.
>>745356671I wonder how many mistranslations I'm not seeing in the games I like. I guess if you don't play nintendo, or arcsys there's a lot less of them.
>>745352996Games should just have two translations. Plain accurate translations and the rewrite for faggots called localization.
>>745356542>going unpunished, or even praised by faggots.Did you know the localizers of FFVIII and FFXIV, both games with horrendous rewrites and inaccuracies, got promoted to full blown writers for later games?
>>745352110This just confirms that the gen z stereotype is artificially manufactured.
>>745355386> reason you watch some anime and the hero says to the bad guy "i wont forgive you" and the bad guy freaks out like he just got told the sickest burn is because 許す and forgive are not the sameYurusu can also mean "to permit". You sure its not a retarded localizer mixing it up with "forgive"?Also you're point is retarded because that phrase you are describing exist in other forms. "It is what it is" and "it can't be helped" are basically the same thing. The issue isn't that the localizer picked one of those two options. Its that they chose "You can't kappa cap cap what you can't boozinga"
>>745356821If you want a schizophrenia simulator, learn japanese and play these games in english subs with japanese voice overs. You'll start hearing two different stories at once because localizations are very different from the original interpretation you would be hearing from the japanese voice overs.
>>745356542The rot of "progressivism" will spread until people start forming activist groups and start rocking the boat.
What is the actual difference between the concept of a gyaru and a bimbo. To me they are the same. A bit slutty, probably dumb. Wears heavy makeup, dyes their hair if they arent platinum blonde. Cares about looking attractive and money. Willing to take miles of dick to get what they want.What did I say here that applies to one but not the other.
>>745352583It all goes way back to Brock's jelly filled donuts. Basically, american kids are retarded.
>>745357163Pretty much nothing you just said has anything to do with gyarus.
>>745352583Diversity and inclusion means adding brown people and faggots. That's literally all it means.
>>745357163Fucking look at them? That's a bit like saying there isn't a difference between a cowboy and a ronin.
>>745357198As an American who was a kid back then I can confirm everybody knew that was a rice ball when the topic came up at school. And nobody was fooled by turning the lesbos into cousins in Sailor Moon.
>>745357163Gyaru is a scene bimbo.
>KILL ALL LOCALIZERSmeanwhile>ACE ATTORNEY IS LE SOUL DRAGON QUEST IS TAE GREATEST A WEE BIT KINO BASED KID ICARUS UPRISING MMM YOUR COCK IS SO THICK AND HARD TED WOOLSEY
>>745354436This depends on the game. For a game that's trying to have broad appeal, you probably should tone down the stuff that's going to fly over the average player's head. But a gacha about anime horse girls? Most of your audience either knows what gyaru means or would be interested in knowing and you'd have to be a fucking retard to neuter it
>>745352583>diversity>inclusionThese mean "browns" and "LGBTroons".They don't know anything about cultures outside their own corporate-produced consoomer monoculture, and in fact they think you are morally inferior for having any culture but their own. They hate you for not being like them, they are actually one of the best examples of "bigotry" by definition that exists in the modern age.
>>745357514eat your hamburgers apollo.
How would you translate gyaru speech?
>>745357514Who are you quoting?
>>745357514
Trans rights are human rights. You will never win.
Is this an uma thread?
>>745357514Old good, new bad.
>>745352583>How the fuck are these retards simultaneously advocates for "diversity" and "inclusion," and yet they flatten any and all actual cultural differences?That's the irony of it all. The people overly obsessed with being politically correct and inoffensive are actually the most racist, bigoted, sexiest, etc people of us all, because that stuff is the ONLY thing they see.
>>745357818Trannies oppress the gay community.
>>745357825try reading the thread instead of just looking at the OP image
>>745357713For Japanese games YOU are the DEI faggot
>>745357818Living beings only have a right to one thing. Hopefully it'll come to them sooner than most others.
>>745352110This reads like the kind of shit LLMs come up with when they're doing the whole faux positivity thing and talking about shit as if it knows what it's talking about while confidently spouting nonsense. And no, I'm not saying than an AI wrote this, if anything AI must be pulling that kind of irritating shit from corpo jobworths like this who are trained to speak to their shareholders and fellow employees like they're retarded children while also lying to their faces.
>>745357961Non-sequitur.I don't want japs to consider me when writing or making games. I want them to make what they want to make, and I will purchase things from them that I deem to be worth the money.
I hate Cygames trannylators but how do you expect them to translate Gyaru slang to English?Like how are you gonna translate American cowboy slang to German? There's no German equivalent to "howdy partner". The best you can do is research German rancher slang and I'm sure people will complain about that anyway.But there is no equivalent to gyaryu culture in English speaking countries so you can't even do that
>>745355654Honest and soulful localization
>>745358201Then learn japanese or cope with your trannyslations.
>>745358412Or I can just use the claude max sub that my job pays for to translate them for myself, and watch you cope and seethe.
>>745356542Localizers are a celebrated class among normalfag ironic weebs.
>>745357745The fuck is a kotatsu?
>>745358359God fucking damn it, I wanted to play that game. Is there a fan patch that fixes the translation? Or is it like Popful Mail, and you just gotta read Japanese?
>>745356697Looking at this, I'm reminded of the Bravely Second sidequest where they are all stuck in a room and supposedly the only way out is to teach the retarded dragon how to cast big fire instead of these powerhouse characters just plowing through the wall
>>745358550Author of that comic misspelled "coffee table" real bad
>>745357163You just described every woman
>>745357803Rub a dub dub
>>745358473You're still going to miss half of the context because when Japanese isn't just boring ass "Kore wa desu" it's puns that make absolutely no sense in English so you're either going to just miss it completely or Claude will have to handhold you through pages of TL notes.
>>745352583Japanese is like... Problematic We have to fix it for those clueless zipperheads
>>7453583201. Leave what should be untranslated untranslated. "Gyaru" itself should be transliterated.2. Create new slang that matches the meaning vibe of the original slang. You can't substitute in phrases which refer to in real english slang which references English subcultures, so it's hard, but this is the only way.3. If there is a convention for how certain phrases should be translated from other games and anime that have been translated before, use that.
>>745358495>Inserting the wrong personalitywtf man
>>745355859>alright this seems reasonable enough>he's even conceding that it's serviceable and plenty good as it is>>WHAT>what the FUCK am I readingIf you blanked out the example this would look so reasonable and sensible, but that's some crazy whiplash seeing that shit in the middle of those words. There's no way, NO WAY, he's saying all that about these lines. I could not think of a worse example for the point he was making if I tried.
>>745352110This is "her" btw, the "internal" translator
Localizers will truly serve you shit on a plate with pride.
>>745358783My nigga, my xister, none of that has been an issue in LLM translations for people who aren't retarded (read: understand how to set up a work environment) since the context windows went to 1M. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>745358897Doing these things is exactly what this entire thread is seething about.
>>745358495Are ironic weebs real? I have never seen one. I think they only exist as clout demons on the internet. They don't do anything in real space.
>>745357745I miss when she was funny, and not a politischizo like her dad.
>>745352583>How the fuck are these retards simultaneously advocates for "diversity" and "inclusion," and yet they flatten any and all actual cultural differences?Because they don't want diversity, they want it to be "them".
>>745358989>Know a little JP>A dialect character appears>No idea what the fuck the character is saying>Look at the EN subtitles>No idea what the fuck the character is saying
>>745358609KEK
>>745358989Looks like a 12 year old boy, so I could believe it's a pooner (female that thinks it's male) or a de-trooned one. If it's male then it either had a very serious hormonal disorder from birth, or sick and evil parents that put it on puberty blockers very early. Either way, it's a creepy looking freak.
>>745358989That's female. I can tell because it's trying to look as unattractive as possible, which tracks for these goblins.
>>745358989the nose knows
>>745359049Yeah. Basically the people who would only get their anime from Toonami and Adult Swim were ironic weebs.
>>745358897creating new slang sounds like the worst most cringe thing troonlators could do
>>745359031Well if you followed those steps, you wouldn't have translated Gyaru as "gen z" or used anything that references gen z slang or subculture. Reject the idea that parallel subcultures exist, and reject the idea that dialogue ever needs to get "punched up" because it's too dry, and you'll do fine.
>>745352110Isn't the U.S.A.'s "valley girl" speak the usual equivalent to gyaru in localizations?Trending internet memes that disappear within 1-6 months shouldn't be considered a true "parallel culture".
This is why I have no qualms with all translators and localizers being replaced with AI.Bring on the $1200 Xbox and $1500 GPUs, I don't care, I want these people gone.
>>745352583I noticed this a decade ago. If a movie comes out with too many whites it's "not diverse" when the cast is all black or all Asian, it's "diverse" despite being 90% one race.That was when I discovered diversity was just their code word for "less white people". It's just pure contempt for white men specifically.
>>745355705>lermontov translator.jpgThat's literally Vladimir Nabokov on translation
>>745357514All have shit localizations. Are you lost?
>>745352258Akshually when the board was created, it was explicitly stated generals were fine on /v/ and that it was just for the constant threads A general thread is better than a “culture” thread, especially the “culture” that arose around 2016
>>745359304Yeah but "trending memes" have been forced into localizations since the 90s. Blame Working Designs for starting this trend of bullshitted "translations."But then again, fucking Squaresoft in the PS1 days was just straight up making up the translations entirely for FF8 and FF9.
>>745358783Missing a joke here and there is preferable to forced memes and offtopic references from trannylators
>>745359209It's the only option though. You either leave it untranslated, lift English slang which already has associations and meanings, accidentally implying that a character is califorinan or spends too much time hanging out with children, or you try to say something new that has the same meaning as what you're trying to translate.
>>745358592Don't worry about it too much, it's an exaggeration. The actual translation is well done, I'd say it's about 90% accurate. You can check it yourself herehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ymsbED2lwx-04HcK08-SCsx3dIiuVfHMa28ARAhBFpM/You should, however, use this mod to restore censored content and the Japanese dubhttps://cdromance.org/dc-iso/skies-of-arcadia-uncensored-version-europe/
Japanese peepo don season dey languageWe gots to spice it fo dem
>>745355386Nigga you're a fucking ESL, why the fuck are you even talking about English like it's *your* language?
>>745352583They're just agents of globohomo. The goal is the complete eradication of local culture in favor of a global homogenized society where culture is strictly a commodity.
>>745352479It's funny how (un)intentionally racist it becomes when you realize they are refusing to show another culture.
>>745358971And that's one of the more benign examples
>>745352583Stop nooticing things
>>745359304Yeah, just a vapid tanned woman who bleaches her hair and wears skimpy leopard print clothing. If location is important you just say she's from California or Florida.
>>745358989>Should I translate sexually deviantart works my friends make?>No, I should work with an Oriental company about trainers bonding with cute anime horses, all while malding about "Merry Christmas".
>>745353803Become a NEET if you aren't one already, then just consume moonrunes all day everyday
>gyaru culture is not well knownThese people need to be thrown off a fucking rooftop.
>>745359049It's basically anyone who says they like anime, but have only watched battle shounen and hate fanservice and any kind of classic anime trope.
after seeing how bad the localization was when uma global came out i decided not to spend a single dollar on the game.how do these people keep landing these jobs?
>>745359516The american language belongs to everybody :^]
>>745352110What is gyaru culture besides wearing garish makeup and blonde hair dye? Do they talk like dumb bimbos or something
>>745359658It's very obscure, like Christmas. Nobody knows what that is.
>>745359516ESLs think that because they had to study English that magically means they understand it better than native speakers. It's a brown thing.
>>745352996How are GenX/Millenials even bigger "I'm hip with the kids" faggots than fucking BOOMERS were.
>>745352583their entire ideology revolves around being oppressed and when they can't find real oppression they manufacture it. Just look at the SPLC funding KKK rallies to accumulate gibs for anti-racism efforts. They invent the problem and sell the solution while doing absolutely fucking nothing.
>>745352110This is good localization though.Gyaru culture is typically associated with youths, style, and involves a strong manner of speech with distinct phrases. Gen Z lingo is a perfectly reasonable approximation.Without this approximation, and using literal translations, most readers would have no natural way to understand the associations of her speaking or acting that way because they don't have any associations to work with, as they haven't experienced gyaru culture>but it's a chance to learnisn't a good response to this either. Sure, sometimes it is. But in this case it would be extremely destructive to the actual intended experience of the character - the primary thing you should get is that you associate them with youthful style and being full of energy, just like the Japanese do. You can't do that as a primary if you don't have that association ALREADY.
>>745359763die
>>745359658From the conversations in the topic most anons think every gyaru is ganguro.
>>745352110>gyaru culture is not well-known outside of JapanI went to a Christian high school that was so Christian it literally had a chapel inside of it that hosted church services every Wednesday and Sunday. 8 out of the ~40 females in my graduating class were gals.
>>745359754Because the old boomer jews funding every entertainment industry systematically purged anyone who doesn't have these types of opinions. Same as most art fields.
At this point I just don't give money to anything that involves a white woman in any fashion.Everything they touch is shit.
>>745359763Gyaru culture is old as shit, and exists only in anime now, not real life. The far better English analogue would be valley girl speech - it's also something that was a thing in the 80s, but only exists in media now.
>>745359049>Are ironic weebs real?Yeah hell the pokemon fanbase is full of them.
>>745359881which branch of christianity?most of them in the US have been infiltrated by bad actors and changed from within, that's why you see all these lesbian and gay pastors
>>745359910>not real lifeI saw a 40 year old woman dressed up like that like 3 years ago bro
>>745359754Because they never grew up. No one ever grows up now, everyone is a teenager forever
>>745359763You're right that Gyaru culture has associations, and gen z has associations, and a lot of those associations overlap. The problem is the ones that don't overlap. You're bundling a lot of associations that only gen z has, a whole American terminally online context that doesn't exist in japan.
There's no point in complaining about this. If you're that concerned about experiencing the artist's original intent then you already know Japanese. It doesn't affect you.
>>745359719Pretty much. Since it's all about going the opposite way of the "traditional perfect japanese woman", not saying all the syllables, changing some, converting them to cutesy synonyms, etc., is part of the deal.
>>745352258fpbp>>745352110Eh this doesn't look that bad.I remember when I was a kid there would occasionally be characters who sp0k3 1n 1337 sp34k.I always thought it was funny
>>745360001I would like to watch anime with my friends who do not know japanese.
>>745359986the problem is that your choices are "no associations" or "close but not identical associations". you can't exactly replicate the associations across languages
>>745360001yeah but claude said the japanese actually said this...
>>745353672I'M AT SOUP
>>745352583Well while most localizers care about diversity and whatnot, they are being hired for a commercial gig.To make something foreign more accessible so it will make more money.And that means their job is to make as much as possible completely culturally neutral to sell the game in as many regions and languages as possible
>>745360073Cool, but this is a videogame.
>>745359763Do you think people playing a very Japanese horse racing game animal girl based off Japanese horses would not be able to handle the term Gyaru?Die at your earliest convenience.
>>745359910Valley girl speech is the closest approximation of gyaru culture, I agree, but in this specific case for Helios, she's meant to be high energy and silly, which valley girl speech doesn't communicate and Gen Z lingo does. Fate/Grand Order came to the same conclusion with Sei Shonagon. FGO game also has a more laidback gyaru character, Suzuka Gozen, and SHE talks like a valley girl, while Sei Shonagon who is meant to act youthful and high energy (like Helios) uses Gen Z lingo.
>>745353672kekThose aren't even gen Z terms!What the fuck does "I'm in the soup" mean?
>>745360140I've never heard a Japanese person say they want the Americanisms removed from their shitty Hollywood filmsSo why do they think we want the Japanisms removed from Japanese media?
>>745360075No associations is a blank canvas that you can build on top of, and give your audience a deeper understanding of gyarus or any subculture in question. If you begin from a place of saying "Gyarus are like X" it's near impossible to deconstruct the associations that don't belong.
>>745359710>how do these people keep landing these jobs?Easy: the competent translators aren't going to get paid pennies to translate weebshit when they can do professional translations for big corporations doing business with the Japs.It's the online moderator conundrum but for media: anybody with the intellect, maturity, and even-keeled personality needed to be an effective, and impartial moderator is going to be doing far better things with their time instead of targ-wrangling a bunch of internet spergs. The same concept applies to translators.
>>745360208White women think Japanisms are icky, that's the actual reason.
>>745360208japs localise as wella good example: https://www.cjvlang.com/Hpotter/speech/dumblej.html
>>745360186You know Japanese games are all just VNs with different levels of glorification.
>>745352583You are now finding out that woke libtardism is covert globalist imperialism. Nations and cultures are evil, everything MUST be reduced to a grey slush.
>>745360001>Things should stay shit and wrong forever I personally don't agree.
>>745360197People aren't playing a trending horse girl racing game to learn about Japanese culture, and a free to play mobile gacha game does not want its reading experience to be awkwardly literal, it wants you to like its characters immediately. Immediately understandable and likable characters is literally the single most fucking important aspect of design for a gacha game.
>>745360226>Easy: the competent translators aren't going to get paid pennies to translate weebshitSo then replace these people with AI.That's what the fucking Koreans and Chinese are doing, all their shit nowadays is AI-translated because it's cheaper and usually less autistic.
>>745360290But also White Men Bad and they all need to go.
>>745359950>40 year old womanThere you have it.
>>745360219>>745360219we're not talking about a character's actions, we're talking about their dialogueare you arguing that character voices, dialects, and accents should all be flattened out to standard english in translation?
>>745360287Are you gonna read your game with your friends or something?
Why didn't they localize all the horse names, they really expect us to learn all these Japanese horses?
>>745360329I agree completely. AI is more than competent enough to translate Japanese to English now. There's absolutely no reason to hire Benson Tree Spirit-Smith to butcher niche Japanese media to own the le chuds.
>young girls being into fashion and talking in slang is a japanese only thinglol
>>745360392Stella Sora, for whatever reason, translated the names of the 3 main girls, and ONLY their names. No other character has her name translated.
>>745360329But that would cause total trans genocide and also let nazis take over america or something and all the water on earth would instantly boil off into space!!1
I think localization would improve tenfold if you just had heterosexual non-trans/queer people involved. Not even necessarily right wing people, just heterosexuals without a trans or queer identity
>>745360440right, so how would you translate that slang then?
>>745360392What kinda fuckin name is Haru Urara, change her to Spring Burger or some shit.
>>745359941Presbyterian, so middle of the road. However, that's with the context of 17-21 years ago.
>>745360494Ask AI.
>>745352583Actual answer: None of you guys (chuds) really hate Japanese people so you're okay with their culture. Whereas with other minorities you guys actually hate.For example: no one here complains about Japanese names being hard to pronounce. However black names are made fun of.
>>745360440You almost got it. Japanese girls are into certain fashion (colorful, hype, cute) and use Japanese slang that makes no sense outside their country. "Oni yabai" would be "demon bad!", and that would be retarded.
>>745353672>she fell in the soup!
>Mods kill the Uma thread>Mods leave the culture war thread directly related to Uma alive to gather several hundred postsmods = fags as always
>>745360373There's a lot you can do to convey voice and tone in standard English without using slang. Slang is always specific.
>>745360554Non-sequitur
>>745352583It's all a front, leftists would love nothing more than to erase all culture in the world and supplant their values into them, one hivemind where no one disagrees is their ultimate goal.
>>745360616the only one seething are you cunts seething at each other for 300 posts all day everyday
>>745360554>However black names are made fun of.Because they're retarded.
>>745360586>it’s only culture war when chuds call us outYawn
>>745360554>Whereas with other minorities you guys actually hate.Bitch, I AM a minority, eat shit, I don't like this localization shit either.Replace all of these worthless cunts with AI, every single fucking one.
>>745360494However young girls talk? What do I care about some gaycha just saying gyarus are not a supah exotic japanese thing. They are gyarus by another name.
>>745360474You're a retarded because most localizers aren't like that. Only 3% or so of all people are fags and fewer than 1% of them have the trans mental illness.
Media shouldn't be translated at all. Let people learn more than one language if they don't like their country's """creative""" output.
Please explain why Haru Urara can be used but not Gyaru or Christmas.
>>745360604So you are saying that a character that uses slang in the original should not use slang in the translation?
>>745360650do you like the change of pace talking about Uma translators vs Final Fantasy or Advance Wars or some other shit?
>changing the WEI to waheyUnforgiveable.
This game is so bland and shitIf only a localizer could rewrite it for me...
>>745360723?
>>745360770Better yet, localizers are too expensive, get AI to rewrite it instead.
>>745352110>>745353672Ah yes, the ever-popular Gen Z slang, "I'm in the soup"
>>745360586yeah this place is a no-fun-allowed shithole but you already knew that didn't you
>>745360827What do you mean you're AT soup?
>>745360556Yeah I am sure modern slang has no loanword they gave the meaning of Big/Great and Cool/Amazing.Just because I don't like localization doesn't mean I like word for word translations.
>>745360625>out of nowhere: left The direction-brained american.Can only think in left and right.
>>745360554>However black names are made fun of.Because they're often normal words pronounced incorrectly because they never learned to read, like that joke about the black mother naming her twin daughters Syphilis and Gonorrhea because she saw it on a poster at the doctor's office.
>>745360817Anon, you know damn well that a sloppa TL would still be ran through an "editor" who will do the same shit(or worse, trained to be pozzed from the get go).
>>745359941>you see all these lesbian and gay pastorsUnironcially just dudes wearing costumes for views or outright propaganda. Actual (openly) gay pastors are extremely rare
It's crazy how localizers pull shit like this and then people have the gall to ask why gamers celebrate when devs and localizers and American writers get laid off.
>>745360868>Yeah I am sure modern slang has no loanword they gave the meaning of Big/Great and Cool/Amazing.THAT'S LOCALISATION YOU MONGOLOID
>>745360868Well that's why this thread is here, isn't it? The idea that you -could- have an equivalent to that slang, but Gen Z slang is not the right one. I've never even heard the expression "I'm in the soup" before, AND it's not even close to what she said.
>>745352583Diversity = niggers. That's why the NBA is the most "diverse" sport every year.The goal is the eradication of whites and honorary aryans.
>>745358989>Do translations in house>Get a tranny so they are just as shit as the California trannylationsWhy even do that?
>>745360897>editorSounds expensive, they're fired, we don't need an editor, ship the AIslop as is.
>>745352110Not my problem. I started learning japanese during covid.Start learning, do it today. Things are only going to get worse and AI is not going to save you because AI is being trained by the very same localizers destroying your games right now.
>>745360676Names are more commonly untranslated, and especially horse names are often weird anyway, so there's little reason to question a name like "Haru Urara" or "King Halo". A gacha game must prioritize, above all else, the immediate likability of its characters, and communication of what kind of person they are and how they act should be clear, as it directly translates to how well that character makes money. Gyaru is not an immediately understood concept in western culture, and because immediate understanding of the kind of person Helios is relies on understanding what a gyaru is, an approximation is necessary.
>>745359304Because of the existence of shitholes like SEA and the fact that spanish jungle monkeys dont get a Spanish localization, a lot of companies treat "English" more like the global translation and try not to do specific American analogies that aren't as well knowns abroadI think this is total bullshit btw but it's true that companies actually do that this and this is the exact reasoning retards are giving for why they chose Gen Z and not valley girl.
>>745352583You don't get it, explaining what kansaiben is would melt most normal people's brains. We must turn everything into westoid or westoid adjacent, now eat your hamburgers Apollo.
>>745359754>How are GenX/Millenials even bigger "I'm hip with the kids" faggots than fucking BOOMERS were.Boomers are still alive and running everything. That's why everything seems so out of touch. Because it is. Millennials think zoomerslop is retarded, but we still understand it. "We're in the soup" is not something that anyone connected to anything modern could ever come up with.
>>745360695You translate the literal meaning of the slang to the best of your ability. Matches don't exist, you're never going to make your translation more accurate by including the word "Chad" or "brainrot" or any of the other words these localizers are actually using.
>>745360676Haru Urara is a name. Your own name probably means something too, doesn't mean you change it depending on where you are.
>>745360993>Gyaru is not an immediately understood concept in western cultureThe fuck they aren't. Gyaru are all over anime these days and any retard can understand tanned slut.
>>745360985*Also - i only play games from generations 3 to 6. Anything games beyond that have already been damaged at the source thanks to globalism and japs aiming everything at the "modern american" market (IE middle aged white ladies).
>>745352110They already censored valentine bourbon so I wasnt suprised in the slightest
>>745352996they did the same shit to granblue fantasy relink.people in a fantasy flying boats swords and armor setting were unironically saying "let him cook".
>>745360998I do agree on the Spanish aide of things. Unless it's a AAA game, we simply don't get translations. We MIGHT get one made in Spain tho, and that's the equivalent of making americans play a game where everyone speaks like brits.
>>745360613See >>745360963 to have your claim ass raped in real-time.
>>745361008Honestly, translating kansaiben as hickspeak has always been a reasonable thing. It's a pretty close parallel.
>>745360993>Gyaru is not an immediately understood concept in western cultureIt is though.
>>745352583Il give you a real answer, the golems in charge and the marketers want something easily digestible and enable shitty localization. Its not just the localizers themselves but the marketing teams and golems that enable it.
>>745354618It sounds fucking stupid every time it's used. Usually because the "it" they're referring to is something you can't call "it" in English without it sounding weird.I once ran into a retard who said that the Souls games must have been written in English because there were no instances of stock phrases like "it can't be helped" in the game. I then linked him the script for the game, which included about 30 examples of 仕方がない, with a few variants like 仕方がねぇ for good measure. He didn't see it in the localisation, so he thought it wasn't there.
>>745360993The fuck's an Urara, localize it.
>>745361027>You translate the literal meaning of the slang to the best of your ability.So you remove the slang, yes?
>>745360993>gyaru isnt understoodTranslate it into a Valley girl dialect and it'll be easily noticed. Its not that hard
>>745355859Vagrant Story's localization was greenlit and approved by Matsuno himselfCry more chud.
>>745361220>>745360993Gyaru is basically a cope for artists to say their characters aren't brown.
>>745361293>Only ESLs like itOk.
>>745361138It's more the equivalent of people speaking english normally, while you normally speak ebonics. mexican is the ebonics of spanish. >>745361238It can't be helped that you don't understand.
>>745361208>second largest urban area in japan>hickspeakfucking retard there are stereotypical rural accents in japan and kansaiben isn't one of themsomething like new york/new jersey has always been a better americanisation of kansaiben
>>745361238>Usually because the "it" they're referring to is something you can't call "it" in English without it sounding weird.Holy fucking ESL, "It can't be helped" is LITERALLY exactly the same as "It is what it is," which IS a commonly-used English canned phrase that refers to the EXACT SAME "it."I fucking hate ESL so god damn much, all of you need to be subjected to age verification so you can be perma-blocked from the western internet.
>>745358971Wait until you find out there's a whole generation of retards that defend this slop, and claim that FF has been "improved" by it.
>>745360586They did the same thing during the fire emblem direct.If you ever wonder why this board is a shithole filled with ragebait and culturewars, be sure to thank the mods.
>>745361208Kansaiben is not hick speak, Osaka is the second or third biggest city in Japan. Something like deep tohoku or kyushu would me more hick.
>>745361078>>745361220Try going to a convention like Anime Expo and you'll very quickly learn that the audience for a new free-to-play gacha game does not necessarily have the working knowledge of anime to be able to instantly understand a gyaru translated literally.You and I exist in a space where most of us either have watched many anime or are aware of them. You're probably in your late 20s, I myself am in my mid-30s. Do you think the 19 year old that is trying Umamusume because its trending but has only seen shonen anime otherwise is going to instantly understand a gyaru without any approximations used for the translation?
>>745352110God forbid you fucking learn anything about a country while consuming its media.
>>745353672
>>745361287See: >>745360201In the context of Helios, Gen Z dialogue specifically fits because she's a high energy gyaru. Valley girls aren't typically associated with high energy.
>>745361346That would be all well and good if the way it's actually used in anime wasn't usually to represent a hick. You don't usually get someone from osaka. Nevermind how it's used in settings where japan isn't even a thing.
>>745352583Uhhhhhh...shut up chud!
>>745361424Surely they can leave it as a gyaru and let the curiosity lead them to its meaning. As it is right now it's a completely different meaning.
>>745361283Mostly yes. There might be some slang you can translate because the slang in the original language has a literal enough meaning. Like, if I was translating English text that had the word "mary jane" in it, you could translate that as weed, but if a character says something like "skibidi" or "chud" there is absolutely no way to translate that into a different language.
>>745361517okay, show me these kansaiben "hicks"
>>745359049Ironic weebs are very real.All the niggers complaining about fanservice and le lolis are ones.
>>745359375Don't pretend /v/ doesn't defend Dragon Quest's retarded accents to death
>>745361536Again, they can't afford to "let the curiosity lead them". This is a gacha game. Literally nothing is more important to a gacha game than characters being naturally understandable and likable, because likable characters sell rolls.
>>745361517>if the way it's actually used in anime wasn't usually to represent a hick.I can't think of any.
Since there will always be people too dumb to understand, let's just localize text as blank boxes. Imagination is truly all that's needed.
>>745361494She's more a paripi girl.
>>745361616But have you ever seen one of those off social media?
>>745361664Everyone who hates it already ditched DQ because it's a very old series, but it still gets brought up often. Only the people who gave up hang around dqg
>>745361697Better idea, fire all the writers, localizers, and designers and just have AI make customized stories unique to each player that will be built based on the player's state ID, passport, purchasing habits, and social media.If art doesn't matter and the only thing that matters is the most mass appeal, there's no reason NOT to just use AI for everything, that'll get you THE MOST mass appeal since the average SEAfag who plays these games doesn't give a fuck about you using AI.
>>745361667The localization makes it vastly less likable, surely this is contrary to this objective?
>play a game in any language but English >The TL is good>play the English TL>it's full of american slang and the translators tell me I should be grateful they "fixed" the scriptWhy does this happen? Yunyun Syndrome was the biggest offender of this.
>>745352110I agree.
>>745360075I'm on a phone and it has your 3 "associations" lined up in a column lol
>>745353826Isn't Umamusume a weeb game though? I thought gyarus would be something most anime fans know about with Marin Kitagawa and Momo from Dandadan.
>>745361850America tends to be retarded.
>>745361850Speaking of, did yunyun ever get fixed properly?
>>745361885Ironic weebs don't think those are gyarus, they just think they're "fashionable" and will tell you they wish they removed all thr scenes where they get naked.
>>745360285My favorite example is Sonic Frontiers removing a bunch of spoken references for the jap script
>>745361494>erm ackshully its just a little bit different ermmmmIts nearly the same fuckin approximation, tool it up a little different and you will get there you pompous faggot
I know you want to run defense for your vandalizer gay friends, but it will only be lauded when they're fired.
>>745361872>pantyhose & sneakersUnnnnnfhhggff
>>745361950the last i saw they hired the same people that fucked it up to fix it so probably not.
>>745361950They rushed a patch to change most of it, but half the game is still quite bad. Not to mention the original translator didn't even realize a lot of the lines were anime references. In a game about otaku culture.
>>745361927California. It's all California. The rest of the country hates their guts but unfortunately all localization is based out of there or Austin(which is a Californian colony).
>>745360392This, Jojo proved you could do it and it changes nothing.>>745360574That shirt...if I walk up and press the X button, I should be able to use it for something.
>>745361950No.It got made less flagrantly horrible, but still bad compared to every other language.
>>745352583Localizers realized more than a decade ago that old otaku are a dying breed, you're not the main audience anymore. The goal isn't to translate accurately or to convey the author's intent and its cultural nuance, they want to make these games appealing and sell them to the average "nerd" with a mild interest in anime even if it's mainly Demon Slayer or Jujutsu Kaisen, which is their closest thing to "general audiences"
>Localizers and their ilk: Art matters, say no to AI!>Also localizers and their ilk: Uhh..uhhh, w-we had to make these changes chud, no one would get these weird freaky Japanese incel references otherwise, t-think of the game's mass appeal, we need the mass appealI want everyone in the west to be replaced by AI.No exceptions, every single one.
>>745362035>>745362040>>745362076A shame. Then I will continue to withhold my money.
>>745362003It's the same as FF14 where they are working closely with the main company. It's a lost cause.At least FF14 localization is pretty funny.
>>745362075If anything, Jojo proved how awkward it can be for a subtitled video.>hear a name spoken in English>subs say something different
>>745360724>changing wafu to woohoo
In a better world I would not have to research every game to see how badly faggots brutalized the script.
>>745362137On the bright side, the Spanish TL is good....you DO know Spanish, right?
>>745352110What the fuck it does mean. How could zoomies be able to replace gyarus unless you make them crossdress and take hrt.
>>745361832That's you specifically though. Both Helios and Sei Shonagon are popular among western fans of their games. Also man these threads are so tiring with just constant nothing posts, every second post in this thread is someone making a fucking strawman. Not you that I'm responding to. Just shit like this >>745362112 I feel like every time I try to discuss anything legitimately here it's pointless these days.
>>745361138Uchi puchi guchi muchi buchi
>>745353672>Original: "NNNOOOoOoOoOoooooo!!!!!">Translation: "No!"Why does this always happen and how come I never see anyone complain about it?
>>745362203No, I'm white. I don't speak mexican.
>>745361832For you and me, which is the part many people don't get. Have you seen all the Helios memes from global? They fucking love her, by all means they are likely proud of the results even
>>745361850>play a game in any language but English>dialogue is bland and flat>play the English TL>dialogue is punched up and has character
>>745360998>few people are familiar with [insert your country here] culture, so we cannot use it>everyone is familiar with internet culture, so we should use itAnne of Green Gables is one of the most popular books in Japan, and it was written in Newfoundland (Canada). Likewise, Dragon Ball Z is a global phenomenon. People learn about other nations' cultures by taking an interest in their people, and translated media is an excellent tool in this cultural exchange. Replacing it all with shallow internet culture is not only lazy (shows you are incapable of *localization*), but it degrades communication.
>>745362231Surely you understand you will not change anyone's mind. Most people have 20+ years of resentment over terrible translations like this one.
>>745362272This is an extremely unspecific thing but I'd guess a difference in voice direction, either less hands on voice direction, less time for retakes or simply a different preference of the voice director. The actual answer probably varies by example.
>>745362231Is it a strawman?Almost every time this kind of stuff happens the excuse ends up being "it had to be changed for mass appeal."And if mass appeal is the point, then AI has the most mass appeal, as we can see from all the third worlders and Chinese people (AKA the majority of the planet, and the vast majority of gachafags) who are obsessed with AIslop.
>>745361438>God forbid you fucking learn anything about a country while consuming its media.Have you not heard about Tower of Babel? God is a localiser.
>>745362327The Japanese DON'T SEASON DEY LANGUAGE
>>745362384Sounds more to me like God is AI.
>>745362272It depends. If you're translating a show or movie, you want to prioritize meaning and shortness (remove less important words if not needed, so the viewer has time to read). The viewer will understand the subbed "no" is meant to be longer and full of emotion because it comes with sound. Changing it in a book or game would make less sense.
>>745362327they just love it because it caters to their horrible sense of humor.the reason these translators insert as many memes as possible into scripts is because they know that crowd is going to screenshot it and it'll get turned into some viral tweet.they don't even know the entire reason it went viral is people are looking at it and going "why did the company allow this translation to happen that's fucking hilarious". it actually makes everyone involved look bad but they get to be twitter famous so they don't care.
>>745352583These are the same people who make fun of 4Kids and DiC dubs, btw.>Erm, that Rice Ball is obviously not a Jelly Doughnut!>Can you believe they censored the iconic Sailor Moon lesbians as cousins?
>>745361885The average Global player has probably never masturbated to a gyaru doujin before.
>>745362357There was a point in time where I was constantly having actual discussions with people, and my mind was changed sometimes, and so was theirs. Now it feels like every conversation is just faggots with grudges over something, constantly, no matter what.
>>745362231>Sei Shonagon>popularNot even close.
>>745362634When everybody is full of grudges, that tends to happen. The pail spilled over on this topic and won't be going back.
>>745362634Yes, people have a grudge because this has been going on for 20 years, and the arguments you trot out are the exact same dumb arguments that have been trotted out for years.You will never change any minds because you're not presenting anything new, you're just spouting the same dumb shit over and over again and expecting it to change anyone's mind.In that way, you're a lot more like an AI bot than you realize.
>>745362634Very common /v/ issue especially in the last decade.
We should replace the dialogue with tiktok clips for mass appeal.
>>745362634>i used to have actual discussions!>someone says something you don't like>ughhh it's just so pointless to engage with THESE PEOPLEwhy are you even here? if people are so disagreeable that you refuse to even engage with them why post at all? all you do is pretend you have the high ground by being above them while saying nothing to counter their arguments.
For all the armchair localizers in here with the complaints i do have to ask: when do you become the change you want to see?>inb4 "but im giving criticism!!"
>>745352110But gyarus have nothing do with Gen Z.
>>745352583Stop noticing
>>745362925I know I served you shit but cook it yourself
>>745361424>not necessarily have the working knowledge of anime to be able to instantly understand a gyaru translated literally.Just use the plain text and then lost of "~" or ":star emoji:" and have her be happy. Doing that would be a lot better than saying "we're in the soup now" whatever the fuck that means. I actually think "we're in the soup" is a Boomer-fied version of "we're lost in the sauce", which isn't appropriate for the usage in this instance. I think "let her cook" was on the boomer brain and then he turned "sauce" into "soup" and said "ship it!" and no one wanted to lose their job by objecting
>>745362925Best I can do is MTL manga from JP to EN, then try to clean up the translation with my 7th grade English.
>>745362925Just use AI if it's too hard and expensive for the actual localizers.Like, you get paid for this, I'm an accountant, if I fucked up a giant loan payment or something for someone I couldn't just go "lmao, if it's so easy then you do it!" It's my fucking job, it's what I get paid for, it's what my fucking degree is in, if it's too hard for these people then they should all stop being translators and be replaced by AI.Localizers and the people who defend them are unironically making me support AIslop because they're so fucking shitty, retarded, and lazy that I want them to be destitute in the street like they deserve.
I would not support AI if people actually did things properly. The human element is often a negative.
imagine being so fucking bad at your job that you are convincing people to like AI.
>>745362634People realized you can't reason with the other side(both sides did) and that their differences were unreconcilable. When you reach that point the only thing left to do is hate each other until it grows to the point one side wipes the other out. That's just reality.
>>745360921oh yeah I forgot that was a thingbut it is still true that feminists infiltrated a lot of churches to reinterpret bible verses that were harsh on women or about holding women accountable for their actions and behavior and over time they softened the church to the point now where it's just a LARP club for women to feel spiritual without actually committing to anything and it's a place where they can "wash their past sins" and 'reset their bodycount" and prey upon some poor unsuspecting churchgoing dude who gets tricked into marrying a woman with a whore past and whore mentality
>>745352110>characters blatantly say xmas every second word>happy holidays!i love troonslation!
>>745362925Can't really do much about it, the localizers are not my employees and clearly cygames is giving them the ok to take lots of creative liberties and turn anything too japanese into jelly donuts.Either resort to MTL or learn japanese. I'm doing the latter.
>>745363395>that creature on the rightEvery time.
>>745363395Me on the far right.
>>745363395this infuriates me to no endit really hammers the point home that their entire ideology is just anti-christian and anti-malemaybe the bible was right about good and evil and these people are like demons trying to take over
The real question is when the are the Japs going to start doing something about their IPs being violated? It seems like they don't give a fuck.
>>745363395See, you don't understand, no one knows what Christmas is, so this is actually really good localization.AI could NEVER do something like this.
>>745363507When it starts tangibly causing them issues, they usually don't know or care what localizers are doing.
>>745363507As long as they don't touch jp server they won't do a thing.
>>745363491>anti-christianYes because the Japanese Christmas is so Christian
>>745352583>NOOOOOO THESE FUCKING TOURISTS DONT EVEN KNOW ABOUT OBSCURE JAPANESE SOCIAL TRENDS FROM THE 2000s, THE TRANNIES ARE RUINING OUR GAMES FOR THE TOURISTS AND N*GGER AUDIENCE STOP IT YOU FUCKING TRANNIES AIEEEEEE IM GOING TO CHUD OUT Saved you from reading 400+ posts, this is the thread tl;dr
>>745352583Because Japanese people are easy to bullyThat is the only real answerThese trannyslators dont dare doing this kind of shit in Chinese gamesThe last time a westoid VA couldnt stop stfu on xitter, they just straight up fired her. Cant imagine any japanese companies doing that kind of thing
>>745363551Christmas is anti semitic, you can't include it in anything anymore.
>>745352110wait, if you must localize it wouldn't glam culture make more sense?
>>745363395You realize not everyone is a Christian right? What about people with religious trauma like trans women that were disowned from their Christian families? What about Muslims who play? Can you guys grow the fuck up for once in your miserable lives and realize not everything revolves around you and what you find normal/good?
>>745363395>we have to censor Christmas>...but "Santa", the guy from Christmas, is totally fineIt's funny that trannylation has come so far that it has looped back around on itself. Back in the Woolsey days, it was censored because fucking Nintendo and "how much can we show kids?". Now it's censored because some mentally ill freaks on 8 different prescription medications can't figure out what sex they are even though their penis/vagina is right in front of them, and now Christmas is an illegal word because it's a Christian holiday, which reminds them that they disowned their family after they came out as trans because they detected some micro aggressions when they did the big reveal, even though their parents said they'd accept them no matter what.
>>745363656thanks ChatNPC, but that's not what he asked.
>>745363656>Why does nobody agree with me?Real mystery
>>745360998Better than localizers treating the English translation as the American version. Danganronpa added references to American Football teams.
>>745363395This is a real woman (unfortunately)
>>745363395Why do we live in such a time, where being just objectively incorrect and unfaithful is seen as a valid culture war issue that's up for debate because Christianity is le bad. Is a Jew or Arab going to get spontaneously incinerated by the mere mention of Christmas?Just let this horseshit end. The world has not been improved by this crap.
>>745363778if japs want to capture the market of all religions then maybe they shouldnt make a whole fucking event with centered around christmas with christmas imagery, sounds and theme in the first place
>no not the evil red man AIIIEEE
>>745361725If you get to an anime con you can see some
>>745363954The Japanese make their script for their market. The localizers change the script to fit into a global context. This involves removing references to Christian holidays. Can you grow up now? Or are you going to keep pouting and stomping your feet because a cartoon character on a mobile game doesn’t reference X-mas?
>>745363645Don't care. Indifference > Malignance, it's that simple.
>>745363950>Just let this horseshit end. The world has not been improved by this crap.You're on the wrong side of history, chud! We're going to make sure of that. Even if it kills everyone.
Does it not cause cognitive dissonance to have the horse girl say merry kuristumas and then the text is completely unrelated
If you put in half the effort you use to complain about localizers into learning Japanese you would've been N3 by now
>>745363491how many people are you gonna stone tomorrow?
>>745353531>This just sounds like the Localizers taking creative liberties since they are all failed writers.Welcome to 20 fucking years ago. It's been this way all these years
>>745363984Actually, the evil red man is totally fine. It's his holiday that is verboten.
How much of the wokeness of Metaphor Refantazio is from localizers?
>>745364071Odious AI-genned bait, do not fall for this
>>745363984Santa is actually a pagan icon, Christmas is just Saturnalia, so removing him and Christmas is really the Christian thing to do.Stay woke.
>>745364098You sorely over-estimate how much I complain about this stuff.These days I just push for AI and celebrate dev layoffs.
>>745364202If you put it that way they’re being anti-white
>>745364089>Does it not cause cognitive dissonanceThese people live their entire life in a never ending cacophony of cognitive dissonance. They genuinely believe that men are 100% exactly the same as women if the man simply says "I am a woman now"
>>745353803Watch every episode of Gintama- with your ears open, not just your eyes.
>>745364149I just cannot imagine anyone seriously pushing the Fox news War on Christmas line 20 years after it stopped working on normal people
>>745364237Are ancient romans considered white?
>>745352110What the fuck?
>>745360554Fact Check: FALSEPeople love Jamiroquai here.
Translation of Jap/Chink games is the only thing I will argue in favour for AI replacing people. The entire localization industry is corrupt and full of people who actively fucking hate me.
>>745364158The actual plot isn't really any different. atlus is internally subverted anyway these days, just look at the persona demakes.
Why the fuck are all localizers such obnoxious opinionated retards? Just fucking translate it properly. Fuck sake.
>>745363507Look at NISA. They quite literally don't care, if the project is released on time and it sells then it's okay they'll keep working with the same people. Any complain they could have gets forgotten when the localizers say all the changes they made were necessary for the game to be successful
>>745364301I don't understand what this means, all I know is that there is a literal war on Christmas within the horse game's translation and there is proof of it in this thread.
None of you are actually reading the slides you just see a woman who is a localizer and those are 2 bad words now so everything is bad forevernevermind that you cannot, YOU CANNOT, meaningfully translate Gyaru onto western culture because there's no fucking context for it in the west. Westerners think Gyaru is blackface, uma isn't gonna stop what its doing for a fucking 30 minute lecture of the intricate nature of teenage gyaru Xgenders, and you would complain about that too!!
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>>745364463see >>745352583you troon
>>745364071>The localizers change the script to fit into a global context.They change the script to appeal to their own sensibilities. The discourse in this thread alone is proof that they're not making it work for everyone. Just leave the fucking script alone. Better yet, leap into traffic from an overpass.
>>745364463>nevermind that you cannot, YOU CANNOT, meaningfully translate Gyaru onto western cultureAI can.Time to replace these people with AI.
>>745364421Their job isn't to translate
>>745364463Just call it gyaru.
>>745364421Any role that functions like a "gatekeeper", i.e. a single point of contact where all media of a certain type must pass through, inevitably attracts the most retarded control freaks imaginable who get off on using it to lord their power over people.Incidentally this is also why most of them hate AI, it vastly reduces that power.
>>745364463It's a fucking japanese game. You are no different from some 4kids retard arguing that riceballs are jelly donuts. Shut the fuck up.
>>745363507My impression of Jap game devs opinion of all of this is that it's a Western issue that the devs are annoyed by, but the little blue haired tranny birds in their ears tell them that this is seriously how it is in the West. To Jap devs, it's a Western problem that the West needs to deal with. To them, it's a closed loop that they don't have to deal with... except for when Western ideology forces them to change something in their game, and then they get a little more opinionated and more annoyed with Western ideologies, but they bend the knee anyway because you get more money that way.
>>745352110On cap?
>>745364516It's not just Boba -- It's a lifestyle! Imagine where wonder you could see just a bit past where would you could see, Oisu.Powered by Claude
>>745363395>XmasYou aren't any betterIt's CHRISTmas you fag
>>745364463Jersey Shore
>>745364463>None of you are actually reading the slides you just see a woman who is a localizer and those are 2 bad words now so everything is bad foreverWe're talking about the Christmas slide right now, tranny.
>>745364421That's simple. Localizers are all faggots too shit at their job to get better ones. They are working on anime and games because it's the bottom of the industry and it's all they could get. And they resent it. They hate their job and they hate you but they aren't good enough to get anything better.
>>745364635its not fucking Jersey Shore we're going to beat you to death
>>745364504>The discourse in this thread alone is proof that they're not making it work for everyoneThis thread is a loud minority, you're not a priority
>>745364541we're not talking about what the character is called, we're talking about how they talk
I pray daily for Hitler 2 to be born
>>745364504This thread is 99% people who don't play the game. No one has posted their CM results
>>745364696Just use a lot of ~ and stars for gyaru.
>>745364696It's not that hard to translate vapid airheaded sluts as vapid airheaded sluts.
>>745364686The majority will be fine with AI, so I guess you should be replaced.
>>745360554hmm i wonder why
>>745364753But that isn't what any of the gen Z girls in Uma are. They're explicitly made to sound like really young modern day Teens. In Japanese, they're hardly even gyaru, they're more Hanna Montana
>>745364739This is too cutesy for actual gyaru
Why does it always have to be internet slang? I played some game and it said "this is giving X", which is apparently zoomer for "this is giving X vibes". Had never heard the phrase before and I thought the writer jsut fucked up
>>745364463>Westerners think Gyaru is blackface,What the fuck?
>>745364753...which would, in fact, be localisation
>>745364098No, fuck you. Running away doesn't solve the problem. Eventually you're going to run out of hiding spots.
>>745363950>Is a Jew or Arab going to get spontaneously incinerated by the mere mention of Christmas?Have you met many Jews? Some are legitimately that neurotic
>>745364583>it's a closed loop that they don't have to deal withI wish that were the case, but devs have all but stopped doing regional releases in favor of one global release version. Gone are the days of based uncensored JP versions and gay censored NA/UK versions, now every gets the gay censored version.
>>745360554La-sha(pronounced ladashsha because the dash don't be silent) is well and deserving of being made fun of.
>>745364859"It's giving x" is from mainstream pop and kpop
>most important insight into localization decisions gets fully translated into English>It all goes down the shitter because buzzword buzzword, buzzword buzzword buzzword CHRISSSSSSSSSSSMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>745364421Localization is an inbred role where like minds only recruit like minds. And so it's people who believe that translating video games "gives them a voice" to spread "the message" and to "stop the spread of harmful wrongthink", and so the only people getting translation work anywhere are like minded people. In fact, they even leverage their services not by saying "we're very good at translating", but by selling their services as being able to navigate accidental cultural faux pas that they might be making with their writing. Because the Japanese care about things like this, and so it's easy to take advantage of their kindness. The trannylators even brag on Twitter about what they are "getting away with" in their usurpation of the true writer's intent.
>>745354273so being shallow and retarded is the ideal
>>745364673>overtanned slags sure it isn't
>>745360053Faggot lmao
>>745364089The people making these changes have literally built an entire lifestyle out of ignoring what is directly in front of them at all times.
>>745365056Sorry, tranny. Your days are numbered. AI is going to replace you very soon. In some cases, it already has.
>>745364859>Why does it always have to be internet slangread the presentationthe troonlators behind this have very little real life experience
>>745365010>fentanyl abuse and child rapeThese are more tranny hobbies, going by per-capita.Don't worry though, soon we'll just replace you with AI, then you won't ever have to see chuds again.
>>745365056>oh no! I've been found outCrying out in pain are we?
I’m not reading all this shitDeath to Xmas Oguri fags I deserved to win this CM my preparation was superior my planning was superior but that fat fuck robbed me yet again
>>745364942>... except for when Western ideology forces them to change something in their game, and then they get a little more opinionated and more annoyed with Western ideologies, but they bend the knee anyway because you get more money that way.
You unironically get better translations these days just plugging shit in to Google's AIslop mode than what "professional" translators are producing, what the hell is the point of this shit nowadays?
>>745365148Gotta diversify
>>745364714It's crazy how in just the past 10 years I went from supporting the legalization of gay marriage, to now knowing the sad truth that the bad guys won WWII.
>>745352110Why not share culture instead of erasing it?And why keep Curren calling you big bro when that's not popular outside of japan unless it's sex or actual siblings or both
>Everyone likes how Daitaku Helios is written>Everyone likes how Agnes Digital is written>except for right now at this very moment because it doesnt help The Cause(tm)
>>745365202>he
>>745360203>>745360827It's not the same character
>>745365265"I gave myself Psychosis" isn't the based tradwife magnet you think it is
>>745365270fr fr they cooked fax no printer
>>745365170...sorry, I didn't finish reading
>>745361950There's a few fan TLs now. Still not worth giving them money because the official English TL is horrible
>>745365360Get over yourself, you cave troll.
>>745365265>the internet fried my brain and i am happy about this
>>745364714Shouldn't you pray for a less retarded evil dictator? The first one was a colossal fuckup.
>>745365010>straight white men aren’t the majority in nerd circles anymoreIt's straight white men and straight asian men. And even straight black men, sometimes, if it's a card game or anime. Those are the majority. Everyone else is a mentally ill control freak tourist trying to ruin other people's fun.
>>745365270>Everyone likes how Daitaku HeliosA cute wacky anime girl? Yeah, I can believe this> is writtenLmao you fucking wish
>>745363645these lefty localizer probably don't even know that, they just see a christian holiday and rewrite it because christians bad, crusades bad, europeans bad, white people bad, men bad
>>745365462Only because he didn't actually gas anyone, don't worry we can learn from his mistakes. Personally I'm more fond of the vlad method though.
>>745365270>Everyone likes how Daitaku Helios is written>Everyone likes how Agnes Digital is writtenI notice how you didn't say everyone like how they're written in English.
>>745364881>learning the language = running away>shitposting on /v/ = fighting the good fight kekaroo
>>745365202I dismissed it for awhile but unfortunately it's true.https://agentannk.com/2025/08/22/three-game-translation-tools-i-tried-and-mostly-survived/Person who wrote this article has been streaming Idol Project 2 on twitch recently and it works great
>>745364859"It's giving" has been very popular in the past few years, but is pretty much used solely by women. I think is a zoomerism that spread via tiktok, since the only people I've ever heard use it have tiktok brain. I'm really tired of it though. I should have learned Japanese. They might as well just replace all dialogue with 4chan screencaps of Twitter screenshot posts at this point.
>>745365265It's unironically depressing to play WW2 games nowadays, knowing how much nobler a future we could have had.
>>745365056You lost, tranny.
>>745353803Start by learning kana, you just need to write them down until you can remember all of them perfectly.Then learn a bit of grammar every day/few days, personally cure dolly's videos really helped me because they go more deep down on what it actually means rather than just telling you "do this when that" and all. After that read things in Japanese, watch things in Japanese so you can find examples of what you read.>kanji and vocabularyJust learn them in bulk and look up everything you don't know yet when you are immersing.
>>745365010Demonstrably false. Western studios are bleeding money and laying off hundreds because their devs are all woke queer retards like you and they lack the imagination to create interesting lore or explore anything edgy. It's all safe and follows the consensus like a bunch of women. That's why they are dying. The fanbase is still majority straight men, and that will always be the case, the chuds are winning not because of some superior strategy, but because the "people" that replaced them are fundamentally incapable of producing the same value. They are simply inferior so chuds won by default without lifting a finger unless you call "laughing at them" to be them participating.
>>745365351What does that have to do with anything? "We're in the soup" doesn't make any sense at all, no matter what. "I'm in trouble" makes a lot more sense. The only way "soup" could possibly make sense is if they're trying to create a Gen Z type slang, but have no idea what they're talking about. "We're in a pickle!" would have been how a millennial would have translated it using normal speech.
>>745365797>>Western studios are bleeding moneyThe industry is bigger than ever.
>>745365109i dont think real authenticity needs a flowchart
Looks like an unironic trannylator found the thread and is angry about it.
>>745365797Ehhh... I'd say that the layoffs are more of a consequence of the fact that major vidya development takes long cycles, and needs a metric fuckton of surplus labor to make anything actually happen. People could stay employed at studios forever back in the day because a game could be made by anywhere from 5-20 people.No company needs the hundreds of bodies hanging around doing nothing while there's no games to be developed. Especially considering how few games even get made by companies now. Just look at Rockstar in the PS2 era versus now. Just wait until after GTA VI drops, and then a month later we're having another layoff freakout.
>>745365916That's true, outside of western woke studios that is, because they know how to please their audience instead of lecturing them about politics and they didn't systematically replace all the chud developers with fat dykes and nigger trannies.
>>745365109>read the presentationWhere can I find it? I want to tear it apart
>>745365916Yes, yes, enjoy being laid off.
>>745366015https://speakerdeck.com/cygames/httpsspeakerdeckcomcygamescygames_202607_cedec2026_12
>>745365916>wow this bubble is huge, surely it can take in more air and survive a hole being punched through it
>>745365270everyone (on twitter).
>>745365916Thanks to the east.Not the west.The western industry is seeing record layoffs, while China and Korea are seeing record profits.
>>745365859
>>745355654great fap but fuck that retard
>>745365973Yeah but most of the layoffs recently were directly after a game released and flopped. Or their studio was producing dud after dud. Yeah there was covid inflation but that's a convenient cop-out to attribute all the layoffs to in order to avoid the real issue.
>>745365984>>745366039>>745366067You're assuming that there's some kind of end in sight, but the fact of the matter is that quality and profit are literally on the opposite ends of the spectrum. The trick to selling more shit isn't to make your shit better, it's to market more and find more suckers dumb enough to buy your subpar product. And sales aren't even the driving force anymore because money practically appears out of thin air now and all the people in charge get their dues regardless of how a game performs, and they lay off everyone involved for an extra buck too.And this approach works and will continue to work and there is nothing anyone can actually do about it.
>>745366181I think it's fine as long as it's stated up front what it is and not pretending to be a translation.
>>745366348you type like a jew
>>745366348You are a retard who thinks the number can always go up, aren't you?
>>745366348And they will suffer financially because of it while we all laugh.We can enjoy games that are made by companies that prioritize quality over profit, and as they grow in size and those priorities shift, we can simply move on to another IP while the others rot. I'm sure they'll eventually figure out an equilibrium.
>>745366159You are acting like a trannylator, and you also didn't explain what it not being the same character has to do with anything. No one uses "we're in the soup". It doesn't make any fucking sense. A normal phrase to use would have been "we're in a pickle", exactly like I just said.
>>745366517Yukino Bijin is supposed to be a hick in Japanese, that's the way they decided to localize her dialogues
>>745366604It still doesn't make any sense at all. It's not a phrase that anyone uses. "We're in a pickle" is a phrase that people actually use, though that used to be more popular in the 90s.
>>745366159If your audience has to look up an obscure idiom it's not an accessible translation.
>>745363395Thank god for her. If that said Christmas, I'd have no idea what the fuck this horse was talking about. Hm? Yes of course I know Santa?
>>745363182>just use AI>armchair localizers complain harder>problem still not solvedTOO MUCH CHEESE, MORE MACARONI, MORE CHEESE AND MACARONI, I DONT LIKE MACARONI AND CHEESE
Learn Japanese. Don't tell me you have other things to do, you don't.>But-Wrong.
>>745352996>>745353672>plain translationLove how they call accuracy "plain" to pretend there's no choice but let them continue with their cultural imperialism.
>>745359049>Are ironic weebs real?The definition of "ironic weeb" is subjective, but I think of it as any surface-level fan who likes weeb-adjacent media but still feels deeply ashamed of it, so they hide behind a layer of irony (Ex: "it's so bad it's good!) so they're not making themselves vulnerable. Bonus points for being extremely performative on social media.
>>745366805If you're too shit to do your job, yes, you should be replaced by AI.
>>745366880I still enjoy Genshin, but everyone working at miHoYo should be put in a Siberian prison for bringing gacha into the normiesphere
>>745366159>We can't use "Christmas", the audience might not know what that is!>So here's this idiom that nobody has used in 300 years that nobody understands anymore
>>745366880>so they hide behind a layer of irony (Ex: "it's so bad it's good!) so they're not making themselves vulnerableThat's just zoomers, man. They pioneered the post-ironic world we live in, where everyone is too afraid of getting canceled for having an opinion that all they do is dogpile on other people for having opinions or else post the pre-approved opinions of other people (ex: youtubers)
>yeah, the japanese tea ceremony is pretty obscure outside of otakus>so we changed it to resemble a tailgate party. what's the problem?
>>745363417So what you are saying is... It can't be helped?
>>745367003>but everyone working at miHoYo should be put in a Siberian prison for bringing gacha into the normiesphereYou might not be ready to hear this, but it was actually Covid that did that. Mihomo existed for long before Genshin accidentally became popular because it was a free open world gacha game during a time where everyone was legally mandated to stay in their house under threat of law.
>>745359049when people bring up "actually good english dubs" now, they will bring up Ghost Stories even though it's a terrible dub because they think its funny.
>>745367083>where everyone is too afraid of getting canceled for having an opinion that all they do is dogpile on other people for having opinions or else post the pre-approved opinions of other people (ex: youtubers)This is literally what Millennials did to Sonic.
>>745365637Indeed. Discussing the behavior of bad actors upsets them so much that they constantly try to shame you out of doing it. Like you're doing now, ironically enough. So yes, Tranny. You lost, and I'm going to keep shining a light on your behavior, and I'm going to do it precisely because you don't want me to.
>>745367303No, zoomer, in millennial days people still posted their opinions and their Sanic fursona and whatever the fuck. It wasn't until pussy ass bitch zoomer times that this post-ironic misery began, where the only people posting opinions are millennials, because all zoomers know how to do is type LOL LMAO EVEN
>>745367083It's the inevitable result of using your real life identity online. Most oldfags and Japs still use aliases, so they're largely immune.
>>745367404You're missing the point deliberately. It's not zoomers actually working on the comics and fucking up the writing and continuity of the games.
>>745364634what do you think the x means
>>745367575>You're missing the point deliberately. It's not zoomers actually working on the comics and fucking up the writing and continuity of the games.The fuck are you even talking about? I'm "missing the point" because you're having an entirely different conversation.
the people that pretend they're localizers seem to have left.good work, people. see you next mission.
So much tranime seethe kekWe're even cucking gachaniggers.
>>745367576>twittermas
>>745367404Remember ages ago when the MSM was trying to put out the propaganda on Gen Z by saying they were "obsessed with authenticity"?Lmao. These retards ended up being the complete opposite of authentic.
>>745363984They don't hate CHRISTmas because of Santa, anon.
>>745362075I mean the reason it changed in subs was they would have gotten raped by lawyers otherwise
>>745366692jap dialogue is infamous for not sounding how japs actually talk
