Is Monolith Soft one of the current best dev teams in terms of game output/contribution, quality and employee satisfaction? Is there any JRPG franchise running in the modern era better than Xenoblade?
>>745548794>Monolith Soft one of the current best dev teams in terms of game output/contribution, quality andLmao no, absolutely not. XC3 was total dogshit and Genesis looks even worse. >employee satisfaction?Who fucking cares? How does that affect you as a consumer? Stop talking like an investor.
>>745548794Xenoblade is not good
monlith is fucking shit, the best thing they ever did and the only thing was helping on BOTW
X > Chronicles Wii > Chronicles 3DS > 2 > 3
>>745548794They only make the most concentrated slop after X.
>>745548937What is better?FF? KekKH? KekDragon Quest? Good quality games, arguableSMT? Good quality games, arguablePersona? KekTales of? KekTrails? KekNot looking good for the genre...
>>745548794yes obviouslygenesis is going to be amazing and this pakistani shithole will seethe about it for years
>>745548794SMT and Atlus. But Monolith is my second favorite current running JRPG developer.
>>745548794The other Monolith was better, they at least put out Blood and Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor
>>745549221>What is better?OP didn't say it was just limited to JRPGs. But Digimon Story Time Stranger and Expedition 33 are way better than Xenoblade 3
>>745548794Don't care. Not buying any of their games after how poorly Melia was treated in XB3.
>>745548794>>745548794>Is there any JRPG franchise running in the modern era better than Xenoblade?xenoblade is emblematic of the current dismal state of jrpgsI think few can be said to have damaged RPGs more than monolith, though atlus and squeenix have certainly tried
>>745549387I love digimon time stranger but you can't really compare them. Xb3 is way better if you try, especially in terms of exploration, story, characters and gameplay.
>>745549487>story, characters Lol no. The story and characters in XC3 are total trash. Don't pretend like you any of you actually like Taion and Lanz.
>>745548794>90% of Nintendo's first party games have some sort of involvement from Monolith SoftI will never forgive BOTW for taking staff from Monolith during Xenoblade 2's development cycle.
>>745549601Is that why Nintendo is so hell bent on open world slop lately?
>Nintendo is so hell bent on open world slopliterally never happendthis board is populated by LLMs, they see something and mindlessly repeat it even if it's blatantly false
>>745549550/v/ hates Taion so much they made a fake scene of him getting cucked by Ashera
>>745549550I love Lanz he's awesome.But alright go ahead and tell me what digimon TS characters are better and more nuanced.
>>745549818nigger this is a thread about THE tendie slop developer
>>745549834To be fair, I really doubt /v/ hating him or not would have changed much. Yurifags would have jumped on Eunie w/ her regardless considering events in the game.
>>745549907>I love Lanz he's awesomeDUDE MUSCLES LMAO yeah such a deep and interesting character. Totally not a biased viewpoint
>>745549943Shut up snoyjeet tranny.
>>745549974Yurifags get shouted down any time they try to post on /v/, but since Taion is brown no one gets mad about Eunie x Ashera fags You know I'm right
They make nice skyboxes. Never felt like they're good at anything else. Their writing sucks. Their visual design apart from the aforementioned is generic. Lore-wise a lot of stuff is pretty much just bog standard for the genre. And, of course, the gameplay sucks ass.JRPGs are just RPGs without the RP or G. Monolith Soft is no exception to this rule.
>>745549221The Desolate Hope.
Is Monolith Soft one of the worst current dev teams in terms of game output/contribution, quality and employee satisfaction? Is there any JRPG franchise ruining the modern era more than Xenoblade?
>>745550447Yes, no
>>745549943there's been 11 nintendo games this year and none are open worldyou are pakistani, a tranny, a jew AND a nigger-man
>>745549323Pakistanis are big fans of Racemixingblade though
>>745548794You tendies are something else man. I hope you get a PC one day.
>>745552000What is your favorite RPG series anon?
>>745553464I guess FF7-10 and tactics. But there are lots of individual JRPGs that are great.I won't say the Xenoblade series is shit but the combat is fucking horrible if you've played a tab target MMO(which its based on). I genuinely can't fathom having the opinion that the series is great because of that, even if the story stuff is in your opinion decent at worst.
They were.So much so that Nintendo poached all their talented devs for Zelda, leaving a skeleton crew to shit out XC2/XC3.
>>745553691Do you enjoy modern FF at all, if not what is needed to bring you back to it?
>>745554421>Do you enjoy modern FF at all,Not in the slightest.>if not what is needed to bring you back to it?Never gonna happen but it they made a game using the classic FFT art style maybe I'd take a look.
>>745548794I don't know what employee satisfaction has to do with anything, but I like them Xenoblade games. It's the only JRPG series I'm still a fan of, really.
>>745550040Ashera is also brown.Eunie and Ashera just have great interactions.
>>745555281>Ashera is also brown.But she isn't a man, retard.
>>745548794I hate that 3 only becomes good after you have bought the DLC, the story feels unfinished without it, in the past a game like this would have been heavily criticized for being unfinished, hopefully Genesis is not like that
>>745549550Nobody hates Lanz.>>745549980That isn't Lanz at all. Lanz isn't a meathead. He's pretty thoughtful and introspective but everyone treats him like he's dumb. Justice for Lanz.
>>745553691What's supposed to be so bad about it? It's fine. Actual tab target MMOs are boring abominations because the interface is fundamentally awful and the bloated nature of playing characters for thousands of hours leads to all sorts of stupid shit like macros trying to wrangle rotations of dozens of individual abilities and cooldowns and UI addons taking over your whole fucking game. But there's nothing wrong with the fundamental concept of auto-attack + timing your abilities as the basis for the combat system.The only real complaint is that it doesn't look very good. But that's an aesthetic problem, not a mechanics problem.
>>745555832Actual tab target games are much better because you can do more and they have more interesting enemy design and there are more enemies to fight and they aren't damage sponges in the same way, AND entering and exiting combat is a lot faster which doesn't break up the flow of the game.>ut there's nothing wrong with the fundamental concept of auto-attack + timing your abilities as the basis for the combat system.What are you talking about? It's fucking boring. It makes sense in the context of MMOs because of the complexity they offer having dozens of players playing some shit at once. It was a technical limitation before Koreans or whoever figured out action MMOs, so it was okay in that context. But a single player MMO is just a terrible idea.FF12 at least had the interesting gambit system that let you customize some shit to appease your autism. Xenoblade is just insanely casualized and slow in comparison, it feels pointless and like it only exists to waste my time and put me to sleep.>The only real complaint is that it doesn't look very good. But that's an aesthetic problem, not a mechanics problem.True, it looks bad too, but that's not my main complaint. It feels bad and takes too long.
Do we have enough faith in Takahashi that this qts game will be good?
>>745556285I don't have any faith after 3.
>>745556068>they have more interesting enemy designNo they don't. Standard enemies in MMOs are boring as fuck and the only thing the genre has ever expanded into are avoiding circles on the ground and a ton of gimmick fights that have to be automated by UI addons.>they aren't damage sponges in the same wayWhat the fuck am I reading. MMORPGs are notorious for this. Meanwhile Xenoblade being singleplayer at least lets you blow through every encounter in seconds if you're built right or if you're just oveleveled.>AND entering and exiting combat is a lot faster which doesn't break up the flow of the game.You select a target and press an ability and combat starts. What are you comparing this to? Because that's like the point of Xenoblade having MMO combat, there's no battle transition to another scene like a lot of JRPGs. Like if you're farming stuff in Xenoblade all you do is run up, nuke it in one hit, and then go on your way.I don't see any reason why it's any more boring than standard JRPG combat. Fundamentally it's all about character builds and items, but it does add positioning and timing as elements so you need to at least have hands on the controller.
>>745556285Yes.
>>745556529In MMOs I gather tons of enemies into a pile and kill them all while using various tricks to stay alive. In Xenoblade I struggle not to fall asleep and basically do nothing, activate abilities off cooldown while circling around retarded enemies that basically do nothing.And I dunno what damage sponges you're talking about in MMOs> and combat startsslowly, and when you exit there's also an animation lock as you exit. I really hate that shit.>there's no battle transitionThere isn't a screen change but entering and exiting is a transition between running around and battle mode where you're strafing around an enemy. Your character unequipping or equipping the weapon triggers me so much, I know you know what I'm talking about.>I don't see any reason why it's any more boring than standard JRPG combat. It's slower or at least feels that way because of the cooldowns. And the flow sucks because of the aforementioned equipping animations.
>>745556821Yeah I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Everything you're saying about other MMOs applies to Xenoblade except for sheathing weapons, which is so minor that I don't care about it. And that's your entire complaint.
>>745557001It's not minor if you're paying attention, that shit adds up and it's very annoying. Makes me want to avoid combat and feels like I'm being punished when an enemy catches me.I think you suck at MMOs if you think Xenoblade isn't a hell of a lot worse.
>>745548794Unfortunately being shackled to nintendo basically keeps them irrelevant but sure.
>>745557137I don't think you can suck at MMOs. There's no skill involved one way or another, just a willingness to waste your life.Though that has nothing to do with the combat. Anyway yeah the sheathing thing is extremely minor and you're clearly on the spectrum.
>>745557371>I don't think you can suck at MMOs. There's no skill involved one way or another, just a willingness to waste your life.Ah okay, you've never even played one.>you're clearly on the spectrum.I'm not the one talking about games I've never played.
>>745556529This honestly. I can't get into MMOs but I love Xenoblade. Maybe it's because FFXIV and WOW have really boring intros, but I think you explained why MMOs aren't as good as Xenoblade fairly well.
>>745557358If people cared they would've bought Xenosaga.
>>745557557I'm pretty sure he hasn't even played an MMO, at least you tried and I get not liking them but I can't see why you would like Xenoblade when it's just a casualized version of any tab target MMO. Less enemies, less skills, smaller parties, barely any team dynamic, lower difficulty, and in general even slower combat. I guess you just like the story in Xenoblade which tugs you along, MMOs aren't much for stories.
>>745558556Why are you still here? You don't like Xenoblade, you've clearly only touched the 1st one, you have no connection to Monolithsoft as a PCfag. Go away.
>>745558910lmao I came here to call OP a weird tendie. And I've played the first two, they have fun storytelling and pretty cool worlds but the combat is horrible.
