Reminder that Sony's public humiliation ritual isn't complete yet.Fairgames is still happening.
Working at the gaming branch of Sony is a humiliation ritual every day already.
>fairgames$err, i think you mean Break$out, bigot.
That’s the extraction bank heist shooter where you play as a sassy black woman right? Oh joy
>>745567724Yall chuds ain’t ready for this here kino
>>745567157Will this be Concord 3 or 4? I've kind of lost track.
>>745567157it hasn't been on state of play in a while
>>745567875Concord 4.>Concord is Concord 1>Highguard is Concord 2>Marathon is Concord 3But if that shitty Horizon Hunter Gatherers game comes out first, that would steal the title of Concord 4 and Fairgame$ would become Concord 5.
>>745569127You forgot deadlock
>>745567157gamers will have zero time for that woke nonsense when pic rel hits the scene. its gonna be a kinopocalypse. better save up for a painters dropcloth, your crusty old sock has zero chance catching the cum thats gonna be blowing out the sidewalls of your sac the first time you boot up.
>>745569180Valve's game isn't a looter shooter and it also isn't dead. You're thinking of something else that's so dead I've also forgotten what it was.
>>745569127I feel like people throw around the Concord label way too freely. Concord itself was special because of the sheer arrogance behind it, on top of the massive budget, assumption it would be the next megahit multimedia franchise, and just how quickly it died.
>>745567157Kek, Sony's done so much stupid shit that I forgot about Fairgame$ and the other upcoming flop, Intergalactic.
>>745569503I agree with you in as much as that big stupid Concord Extended Universe meme is lame, but all of the official Concords (Highguard, Marathon, Fairgames) have the same critical ingredients:>same kind of multiplayer competitive shooter squad vs squad game>Sony trying to push it as the next big thing>woke (to varying degrees)>way more expensive to make than any of them had any right to be>commercial flopsGoing end of service is just the mortician chiselling the name on the tombstone.
>>745569550>IntergalacticI think Sony might actually be in trouble if Wolverine barely makes a profit (if at all) then Intergalactic does the same on top of Marathon flopping and Fairgames and Horizon Hunters probably being DOA.It's coming to a point where it's harder to name a game that didn't flop in the PS5 era that's Sony exclusive than ones that did.
>>745567157>Concord was shit>Nobody bought Astrobot>SAAARos was shit>Marvel Tokon was shit>Normies are starting to question the quality of Wolverine>Fairgame$ will be shit>Intergalactic will flop>Laufey had mixed reception>Horizon Hunter Gatherers looks like shitThis question needs to be ask, but what's left for Playstation after the GTA6 hype dies down? Because people are starting to realize that they're at Xbox levels when it comes to making games.
>>745569503There was no real confidence. All of these games were greenlit at around the same time with the idea of a "shotgun strategy" where you have no idea which of these games will be successful so you just make them all and hope that one of them makes Fortnite money. Concord is only unique in that it took them less than two weeks to decide to shut it down.
>>745569127You guys tried really really hard to make Marathon into concord 3 but it didn't really happen, it just sorta released and was mediocre and had a suitably middling playerbase. It's nowhere near the same level of flop as the others, and it's not even woke.
>>745569716>what's left for SonyBall and gun gamers, unironically. They'll buy GTA6, they'll buy a PS6 to keep playing their shitty annualized shooter and sports games, and they'll pay for PS+.The question is whether or not there's enough of them to keep Sony afloat since Sony is so big, bloated, and expensive to operate.
>>745567157That's not the name of a video game, it's the name of a budget used game store.
>>745569481concord likes aren't looter shooters dummy, deadlock is woke as fuck
>>745569708>Wolverine barely makes a profit (if at all)Wolverine is an interesting case. Normies aren't finding it appealing for reasons that have nothing to do with woke or whatever. They're just seeing the gameplay and realizing it's just shit.
>>745569937>Normies aren't finding it appealing for reasonsTerminally online losers aren't normies
>>745569836>you guys tried/v/ did nothing but laugh at it flopping.>it's nowhere near the same level of flopYou're right, at this point, Marathon probably wasted more than Concord did and is beyond $400m in lost money for Sony>it's not wokeI can't believe you retarded shills still come here to try spouting this bullshit.
>>745570029>can't believe you retarded shills still come here to try spouting this bullshit.So whats the woke
>>745569843Realistically, virtually all games, gun-and-ball or otherwise, will continue to release on PS5 until 2035 at least, and possibly for the entire PS6 generation. Everyone will just stay on their PS5, just like nearly every PC gamer will stay on their current hardware for the rest of their lives.
>>745569754They created an entire playstation controller deluxe variant with its markings. They dedicated a huge amount of at least two State of Plays to it. They had entire pre-made animated shorts to drum up hype for its characters and setting. They pre-ordered a big budget CGI episode from Blur for that video game anthology series. They bought the entire studio making the game before the game was even complete because of how confident they were in its success. They set the game's price at $40 in a sea of free options because they saw it as a premium product. They planned to have weekly brand new high fidelity cinematics telling the story of their characters. You don't know what you are talking about.
For me it's Marathon
>>745569937What >>745569981 is partially right, but the wider Twitter audience and other places shitting on the game so loudly that the journos have to run defense for Sony means it's not just /v/ who aren't impressed, same as with Laufey.I think Wolverine will be a case where word will travel real fast about the game after it comes out, and if it doesn't perform in those first few days, it's in trouble.>>745570081Here are the main things that are woke about Marathon:>it's from Bungie, probably the most woke of the major AAA developers, so the background woke is there (I'm sure an anon will post the disgusting Trans at Bungie, Black at Bungie, Latinx at Bungie pic, too)>the shells are simultaneously supposed to be sexless and raceless disposable dolls, but Bungie go out of their way to make sure it's clear which are black, asian, and so on>the first character on the class select screen is an obviously black male shell based on his faceBut things are so desperate for them they're not going further with it (like pride skins for June, or stopping using personal pronouns in the dev interviews).
>>745570170>They created an entire playstation controller deluxe variant with its markingsWow thats huge and requires at least 300 million dollar invest to make those controllers alone
>>745570159With the RAM shortage fucking everyone, Sony could literally just hold on with the PS5 for another few years and it wouldn't matter. With their shitty single player games taking five years to make, it's not like they have any good upcoming games that would be PS6 exclusive anyway.
>>745569843Ball and gun gamers aren't the ones making videos, posting on forums and keeping discussion of games online both healthy and active. They just play whatever with their friends and log off for months. The core gamer is important since they bring attention to other genres of games. Persona would never have become a multi-million seller if nerds on GameFAQs never stopped bringing up Persona 4 into every discussion.But Ball n' Gunners are also the type of people who won't bother with Horizon and Naughty Dog games. It's ironic. That generation of Playstation fans and journos didn't care that Japan Studios and the Japanese IP die because the Uncharted-era was popular. But now, the Uncharted-era of Playstation will die with a whimper since the only ones left on Playstation are guys who'd rather play FIFA. I feel no sympathy for the inevitable death of the journos' favorite studio, Naughty Dog. I know how the late-PS3/PS4 Playstation fanboy and the ball gun gamer operates.>Journo: "APE ESCAPE AND GRAVITY RUSH ARE DEAD. AND HERE'S WHY THAT'S A GOOD THING.">PS4-era Snoy: "lol ur favorite series is dead because flop">Ball and Gunner: "Its k bro. They look cool, but Im not into video games that much. Btw you wanna play some cod, anon? Seems ull be good at it. I got some cold beer in the fridge."I don't hate the ball and gun gamer, but I don't feel sorry for the journobros.
>>745570282>Here are the main things that are woke about MarathonThese reasons apply to valve yet they never get called out for it so it obviously can't be these exact reasons if its never brought up for others
>>745570341>another few yearsThey should hold on for another ten at least.
>>745569981Normies also don't care about Marvel outside of Spider-Man. Tokon flopped.
>>745569127So is Hyenas Concord 0?
>>745570282>>the first character on the class select screen is an obviously black male shell based on his faceso a black person existing = woke?
>>745570613No, Concord 0 is TLOU2. Sure, TLOU2 wasn't a flop but it wasn't a massive success either. Feels like that's when people started being more critical of Sony games. It was the beginning of the end to the illusion that Playstation Studios are masters of video games.
>>745570613Kinda but without the humiliation ritual it's not really Concordesque either
>>745570486I'm sorry if I'm the one to tell you this m8, but ball and gun gamers are the main revenue stream for gaming companies. People like anons posting on /v/ are a rounding error at this point.>>745570509Valve isn't a suitable comparison until they start getting known for having excessive woke/dei shit in all of their games and those diversity groups I mentioned. And the few schizos on the board who constantly try to shit on Valve screaming 'akshually, Valve is woke too' doesn't make Valve woke. >>745570613No, because Hyenas never came out. The Concord series started with Concord, which is why other, earlier flops like Lawbreakers aren't part of it. I still can't believe Sega showed better business sense than Sony when it came to Sega killing Hyenas and Sony letting Concord out.
>>745569708>It's coming to a point where it's harder to name a game that didn't flop in the PS5 era that's Sony exclusive than ones that did.There was Ratchet and Clank and.... Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>we're still mid way through sony's humiliation arc
>>745570735I don't think anything but Concord itself is more humiliating than cancelling a game literally 2 weeks before it came out because they know how fucking bad it's going to bomb. >>745570823I'm standing by it, they poured every dollar they possibly could have into that game, it's not like they saved anything by cancelling it. The game was fucking done, complete, shippable (well, as much as anything is these days). They could have at least made back like a whole $180 from the 3 people that would have bought it but it was so bad it was aborted at birth.
>>745570553>Normies also don't care about MarvelDelusional, doomsday will make over a billion
>>745567724>extraction bank heist shooterNo, it's the Beverly Hills/Miami Beach/Billionaires' Row home invasion heist shooter.
>>745570892Astroboy did ok, and Ghost of Tsushima did too.>>745570947>Sega poured every dollar into HyenasThat's a fun theory but it was never true. Their 'Super Game' fund (the $500 million or whatever) was divided across a few games, and Hyenas was just one of them. And them killing it before it comes out lets Sega do finance jewry to classify it as R&D or something which gets them a bigger write off at tax time.
>>745567626Break in*
>>745571135>it's okay that we spent a hundred million or two on a shit game, we can reduce our tax liability by 25k!Anyways my point is that cancelling a game 2 weeks before launch is a uniquely humiliating move that Sega deserves ridicule for but the brown retards on this site have too much of a one-track mind.
>>745571442>deserved ridiculeI feel the opposite. I think Sega deserves respect for having the balls to kill something that close to being done because some sane person in their company said 'What the fuck are you doing? This is shit.' Just think of how many tone deaf flops come out without that happening, anon. Sega deserves a goddamn medal.
>>745570924Genuinely kind of sad about this one. From what I heard from a friend that got in to try it, it actually seems like it has potential but the character designs, bad character balance/fun, and mission design are holding it back,
>>745571519That's a very interesting perspective.
This was the actual Concord 2. It bombed so hard /v/ barely even mocked it.
>>745571628I love this stuff.
>>745569127>Marathonmarathon is still alive
>>745571628Unknown 9 is a brilliant title in hindsight
>>745571827kek
>>745571821Technically yes, but it's in the ICU in a vegetative state on life support and it will die whenever Sony wants to pull the plug. There is the chance for some hilarity with FairGame$ coming out and dying quick and stealing the true Concord 3 title from Marathon, which would be entertaining.
>>745569127Concord Alpha
>>745567157I'm genuinely out of the loop on this one. Is this their latest Live-Service attempt? Concord 2?
>>745569127>>745570613>>745570823Concord 0 is probably Battleborn.
>>745571916Brink was actually sabotaged by Bethesda (the publisher) forcing Splash Damage to shit it out half a year ahead of time.
>>745571949It was announced several years ago but we've seen basically nothing on it and key people have bailed during development.
>>745571916An insult to Brink. Brink if it released today would be better then most modern shooters. Unironicly.
>>745567157I'm buying FaG$ day one nigga
>>745571628This is the vidya equivalent of when Universal Studios spearheaded their Monster Cinematic Universe with Fem-Mummy
>>745572043they what
>>745571916Brink unironically has soul compared to most of these, they did have a coherent vision but they lacked the time/resources to bring it to life. The final product isn’t good, don’t get me wrong, but it was at least a studio trying to make a good game and failing instead of a studio cynically trying to make a successful game and being baffled when it failed.
>>745572113Universal Studios tried to resurrect their old shitty monster IPs (Frankenstein, Wolfman, Mummy, Invisible Man, and some others) by creating the 'Universal Studios Dark Cinematic Universe,' and the first film was The Mummy with Tom Cruise. It did so bad it killed the entire cinematic universe, lmao
>>745569127Marathon is a flop but it doesn't compare to those other two at all. I expect Fairgames will.
>>745572043that was a bait and switch, the movie ended with Tom Cruise becoming the Mummy.
>>745572043Ah I remember that. They wanted some sort of "Monster" universe with Frankenstein ,The Mummy, and some others but it flopped right out of the gate because that mummy film was so terrible.
>>745571519>I think Sega deserves respect for having the balls to kill something that close to being done because some sane person in their company said 'What the fuck are you doing?Same. This
>>745571556NTA, but wouldn't you prefer all bad games were cancelled before they came out?
>>745572319The most memorable part was the botched trailer.
>>745572272>doesn't compare to Concord>Marathon is a live service team vs team shooter multiplayer game>incredibly expensive to make for what was delivered>huge commercial flop>also by SonyIt's extremely similar to Concord, what are you even talking about?
>>745572404So exactly like deadlock
>>745567157First it was bisexual lighting, but lately they have been using a lot of bisexual smoke? Why always purple? Is it because purple is associated with poison?
>>745572281>its Mummin' TimeSure dude
>>745572319They were going to make fat Russel Crowe into Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
>>745572502Why are you autistically focused on Deadlock? I don't think you can even spend money in it since it's not officially released yet and is just in EA. And even then, Deadlock's highest player peaks blow Marathon's entirely out of the water.
>>745572617>And even then, Deadlock's highest player peaks blowCause its freeMore importantly how much did deadlock make in money? Oh whats that zero dollars! Sounds like a flop to me
>>745572364I'd prefer they get cancelled before the studios pour all the resources they can into them. Again, are you reading.. it was cancelled TWO WEEKS before launch. Cancelling a game in early or mid development at least means they actually cut the amount of time they spend on dogshit and move on to something else. Unbelievably large difference between a normal game cancellation and this.
>>745572113
>>745572685>you physically can't spend on Deadlock>omg, Deadlock made no money! FLOP CONFIRMEDYou cannot be this retarded. I don't care what Epic is paying you, I refuse to believe the anti-Valve shills are so unfathomably stupid.
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>>745571753Did concord had a similar roadmap?
>>745570823>And the few schizos on the board who constantly try to shit on Valve screaming 'akshually, Valve is woke too' doesn't make Valve wokeThat is much more likely woke people trying to push the narrative that woke is vague and nebulous than an actual schizo, even in /v/
>>745572937Yeah, but it wasn't a full year I don't think.>>745572962Good point. What good company those cretins keep, lol
>>745572825Explain how a game making no money at all isn't a flop. Can you name any other game that made no money at all and became successful
>>745572690>d prefer they get cancelled before the studios pour all the resources they can into them.I'd prefer all games that have any amount of time out into them be good, but we're not living in magical fantasy land, and you're not answering the question asked.>Unbelievably large difference between a normal game cancellation and this.Yes, and I'm asking if you don't think this is preferable to having a shit game on the market.
>>745573076Every successful game that had an open beta.
>>745572272>Marathon is a flop but it doesn't compare to those other two at allMarathon has practically cost Sony 4 billion dollars.
>>745573076Deadlock is still in early access and you can't even spend money on it, IDK why you can't understand the concept of a free to play beta. It's not a commercial product yet so it can't flop because there's no ability for it to make revenue.
>>745567157is this the actual cover? what dogshit
>>745569901>>745569180damn bro this game that is an "invite only" alpha/beta is dead as shit bro
>>745573216>is this the actual cover? what dogshitThey recently changed the name to "Br€ak In" so we don't know what the cover will be like, but it's definitely going to be something ugly, gay and retarded.
>>745569503I agree, we should label them Marathons and retroactively consider Concord to be Marathon Zero and Highguard to be Marathon: The Pre-Sequel.
>>745573169>>745573183>bro its beta!!!A beta doesn't last this many years
>>745567157I REFUSE to accept a game financed by a billion dollar multinational mega corporation that is about stealing from billionaires.
>>745573278Kills steam charts authenticity forever
>>745573328>A beta doesn't last this many yearsIt has only been 2 years and it's being made by like 5-10 people.
>>745573374You're right, marathon's steam numbers are being reversed botted, there are actually 100k online but bots are making it look like 3.5k!
>>745573328A beta lasts as long as the devs want it to, retard.Valve is in the position Blizzard was back in the mid-2000s where they had so much money they could do shit like work on games for years and years without it mattering.The only thing the longer beta period means is Valve has to make back that extra dev cost when the game released for it to be considered a financial success, but that also assumes Valve cares about it performing. (I assume they want to hedge against DotA2 maybe falling out of favor and having a backup, but I guess they could be using the game as a big internal R&D project for something.)
>>745569836Concord was considered the biggest flop in media history due to losing $400 million. If Bungie doesn't win the powerball lottery every year for the next decade, then Marathon will have lost over $3.6 BILLION.
>Well poisoning faggot distracting from Sony's abject failures by talking about an obviously successful game
>>745571961Battleborn was a actually good game tho.
I wonder if anon knows that Dota 2 was in beta for 2 years
>>745573412wtf are you on about, how is that a response to my post
>>745571967so what's their excuse for dirty bomb and wardogs?
>>745573398Weird a billion dollar company cant invest more developers to their newest game
>>745573498No I agree with you, Marathon and Concord are being reversed botted to hide their true player counts
>>745573424>then Marathon will have lost over $3.6 BILLIONIt's actually much worse, because it's $3.6 billion for Bungie, plus $250-$300 million for Marathon, then all the lost revenue Sony would have gotten from The Last of Us: Factions that would have released in the same year as when the TV show was insanely popular, so that could have maybe earned another $200-500 million depending on how popular it would have been, but Bungie convinced both Naughty Dog and Sony that it would be "too much effort for a live service game" despite the game being 80-90% complete and so they just scrapped it entirely.
>>745573530Those could've just been flops. From what I remember of Dirty Bomb, it was literally just Brink with a different coat of paint and some minor tweaks. No memory at all of Wardogs.>>745573556You can't be this obtuse. Valve can put as many or as few people on their games as they want. If it's 5-10 it's because that's all they want. Valve's culture is weird and people can just work on what they want, too.
>>745573556>Weird a billion dollar company cant invest more developers to their newest gameThey obviously could if they wanted to but they just enjoy being a small team of super passionate people.
>>745573623>Valve's culture is weird and people can just work on what they want, too.Yeah and thats a shit work culture and not beneficial for the consumer. You need structure to run a business
>>745573692>you need structure to run a businessThey have one, which is a flat hierarchy with people able to join what they want. And Valve is one of the most profitable companies on earth in terms of revenue per employee.They're a hugely profitable and successful business.
I really, really wish Hyenas had released just to see how hard it would flop.
>>745573649>small team of super passionate peopleBro get this corporation gaslighting out of here. Look at Valves output for the past decade, its mostly trend chasing genres and adding microtransactions and lootboxes. Look at dota underworld, artifact, CS2, deadlock. All just trend chasing there is no passion in their games anymore. All the veteran talent left in 2014 and it shows
>>745571628reminder bamco cancelled bunch of tales games to fund this "franchise"
>>745573862>intentionally leaves out HL Alyx because it obliterates his shitty argumentI hope Epic is paying you for this because you might be the stupidest person on the board right now
>>745573753>revenue per employee.Who cares im not an employee so i get nothing out of it, why not reduce salary from millions so they can hire a few more developers to make games
>>745573862>Bro get this corporation gaslighting out of here. Look at Valves output for the past decade, its mostly trend chasing genres and adding microtransactions and lootboxesDeadlock is literally the exact opposite of what you are saying here though, so what the fuck are you complaining about? Are you just complaining like a bitch, just so you can be a bitch?
>>745573931Thats trend chasing too for VR and its mechanically and physically less impressive than boneworks, Alyx just has better graphics. Also they retcon the cliffhanger ending they left us on for 15 years
this game has almost certainly been quietly cancelled
>>745573946They don't need or want more developers. Every studio that hires a ton of people loses their culture because it gets diluted. Valve is probably the only studio left who hasn't been ruined by that shit, and it's not a coincidence they're also privately held.>>745574030>trend chasing>VRYou have no idea what you're talking about and have no business even posting here.
>>745571628>franchise called unknown9>no one even heard of itit's like pottery
>>745574005>Deadlock is literally the exact oppositeHow? Its another hero shooter multiplayer game that will be F2P with microtransactions
>>745567157Wasn't that CliffyB's failed attempt at a battle royale almost ten years ago?
>>745574125You're thinking of Extreme Royale, and it was a literal mess they shit out in a few months as a hail mary to save their company after Lawbreakers tanked.
>>745574080>loses their culture because it gets diluted.lol what fucking culture? Be one of the laziest studios in history and have a terrible output of games since 2013? That culture?
>>745570924Oh god what the fuck is that? Is that supposed to be Horizon? I'd never know it without anons talking about it like it's the next big flop. It looks like a Chinese 2010s phone game or like a fake MMO you'd see in a TV show making fun of gamers.
>>745569708PS5 era is carried solely on 3rd party and console sales. And considering PS6 is expected to be far more expensive than any Playstation, it is possible that they could actually get to the brink of collapse. Playstation lost its uniqueness long time ago, its nothing but a generic console now. In a way, modern console gaming has become no different than PC gaming. When the "rent a pc" gets popular, i presume home consoles would be in a very bad position. (Portable consoles are safe for now, thanks to Apple and Google's gatekeeping)
>>745574205Yes, the culture of doing consumer positive stuff that makes publisher seethe like not hiding player data or charts, having a generous refund policy, and not selling out despite multiple offers to do so.The only tragedy with Valve is that we only have one company like them and the rest of the old guard studios are all pozzed shadows of their former selves.
>>745574310>3rd party and console salesAkshually anon, Sony makes almost all of its profit from store fees and MTX. They barely break even on their games and the console hardware sales are usually losses.
>>745567724>>745571054Amazingly enough there's more than one of these.
>>745574096>Its another hero shooter multiplayer gameIt's a MOBA. You don't even know what the game is.
>>745571821Marathon died in Disney World and is currently being transported out so it can be formally declared dead.
>>745574312>pozzedSo is Valve you delusional fool, they are woke. Old Valve is gone
>>745569626The arrogance and the devs not playing their own games to understand the basic screaming flaws in it are also a critical feature. And it's not just Sony, it's the press at large giving it a full scale suckoff.
>>745569708Sony makes enough from other means that they'll be ok, but even normie investors are going to notice the fucking billions and billions wasted on trash.
>>745574251it's kinda funny how generically bad it looks if you remove the titleit could be a number of different IPs
>>745569716They're not at xbox levels because they're still the default console. Just not doing worse than xbox is enough to keep them going...for now.PS6 is going to get interesting.
>>745574416its both, there are different kinds of hero shooters. Deadlock still has a cast of unique characters with unique abilities so its a hero shooter with the structure gameplay of a MOBA
>>745569836Bullshit. Marathon is easily the biggest financial failure of the year. It's budget is higher than the next two closest contenders combined. It had a AAAA budget and is LOSING millions more every month. It still exists only on Sony's charity.
>>745574439>Valve is pozzedNah. If they ever release something like Veilguard or Dustborn, then they're woke. Retards like you screaming about Valve being woke today are the same as retards trying to claim BG3 is woke because there's literally no woke game that isn't a flop. Nobody takes you seriously, because you're clowns through and through.>>745574456They do play their own games, though. Toxic positivity, anon. No negativity in the dojo!>>745574491Idk, the gaming division makes a lot of revenue but has almost an equal amount of operating expenses. It wouldn't take a lot of things going bad at the same time to put the whole division in the red.
>>745573593>Bungie convinced both Naughty Dog and Sony that it would be "too much effort for a live service game" despite the game being 80-90%How the fuck is that even possible? It's like the retarded kid in class convincing the valedictorian to decline his university scholarships to work at a gas station because "dude going it college is too much effort."
>>745569937Woke devs with their priorities in the wrong place is the woke failure mode here, but you're right in that it's not as blatant as Bazz. Shit like Jean Grey being fridge faced pales compared to how dull and uninspired the game seems.
>>745574205Counter Strike 2, Half Like Alyx and Deadlock. Half Life 3 will arrive soon, i hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I cope. I'm pope. Ihop.
>>745574556>its both, there are different kinds of hero shooters. Deadlock still has a cast of unique characters with unique abilities so its a hero shooter with the structure gameplay of a MOBANo. It's just outright a MOBA. The MOBA part takes up like 80% of the game and maybe 20% of it is actually aiming. So it's stupid to call it a "shooter" in any form.
>>745570613Concord: The Lost Levels.
>>745574356Store fees are literally 3rd party profits.
>>745571135Ghost of Tsushima and even Yotei survived significantly by tightly controling the budget. Highguard's budget was about the two of those games combined. And you can fit all three of those in Marathon's budget.
>>745574356so your saying their best strategy is being steam right
>>745574716For some reason Sony just thought Bungie were the masters of live service. The ex-CEO of Bungie also managed to convince Sony that they could help them get a dozen golden goose live service games.
>>745571628Different weight class. Single player game, more like Veilguard, AC Shadows. SW outlaws.
>>745571904They've openly been positioning BrEak in as a f2p team extraction shooter, which removes a space for Marathon to retreat to.
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>>745574886they thought they were getting the Halo for themselves, instead they got 10000 RANDOM LOANS
>>745574876Sony wishes.>>745574946Sony hasn't said anything new about BreakIn, right? It's still not been seen since it was Fairgames?
>>745571949>I'm genuinely out of the loop on this one.It was Jade Raymond, as in the OG Assassins Creed, as in I WANT TO PLAY JADE'S GAMES striped bikini pics Jade Raymond's return to conventional gaming. Game is a f2p team extraction shooter where you compete with other teams to break into rich people's houses and steal their shit, with lists and scoreboards of said rich people.Has been in dev hell. Jade has fled. In pre alpha testing, and the players say it sucks.
>>745572502LOL. No you idiot. Deadlock has a different set of problems, mostly due to Valve being weirdos.
>>745570613Concord: Origins
>>745575017>compete with other teams to break into rich people's houses and steal their shit>competitive burglaryDid nobody stop to think about how retarded this sounds?
>>745572937Yes.
>>745573556Valve is weird as fuck, and making games really isn't their buisness.
>>745573593Also, Concord's leadership was ex bungie, and bungie convinced Sony to buy firewalk, and double the budget to accelerate dev so they could have it release with the PS5 pro.
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>>745574604>They do play their own games, though. Toxic positivity, anon. No negativity in the dojo!They SAY they play their games, but if some shit encrusted retard from here can play it for 15 mins and find 20, absolutely killer design problems, as we saw with maraathon, concord and highguard, then whatever they're doing doesn't count.
>>745575130>>745575321>>745575361I still can't believe Concord came out, flopped, and got pulled from sale in less than two weeks.
>>745575219They are some sort of a whimsical fantasy town that can somehow not only fully self sustain themselves but also defend against literal gods with like 20 total soldiers
>>745575392There needs to be a statue to memorialize it so that future generations will never forget it.
>>745575371to think there where people who's entire job was to play concord non-stop for 2 years
>>745575392And some people tried to come out of the woodworks saying the game was amazing and whatever else
>>745575371It seems impossible from the outside, but if you've ever worked a white collar office job it becomes a lot more plausible than you'd think.>maybe you know the game your team is making is absolute dogshit>but you can't speak up for fear of getting told you're 'problematic' or 'not a team player'>and you don't want to risk getting laid off because everyone in gamedev is getting laid off>so you stay quiet, collect your paycheck, and know you're shipping shitYou also have a combination of people in the leadership roles being diversity hires who have no idea what they're doing and are also insecure narcissists who won't brook any one questioning their 'vision.'>>745575484I think there were a few genuine people, but a lot of those where shitposters
>>745575012Last news was filing for the BrEak in IP docs, and some leaks from their last pre alpha playtest which were fucking ass. Last leaked report it was described as free 2 play extraction shooter with AI generated microtransaction cosmetics.
>>745573556>he doesn't know about the cabal>he is not aware of Valve's flat structureNot the brightest shill in the Indian guerilla marketing company
>>745575123>Did nobody stop to think about how retarded this sounds?It was the Summer of Love, with Pink Fent Floyd. Robbing rich people seemed to be in.
>>745575531>AI generated MTX>in your woke shit game about eating the richLife truly is a comedy.
>>745575519Well, Concord, Highguard and marathon's dev cycles seem impossible as fuck from the outside.>>745575484I played it, because if I'm going to shit on a game I intend to do it as accurately as possible. Game was C-, and had some what the fuck are you doing design decisions.
>>745575682>nd had some what the fuck are you doing design decisions.Like what? I never got around to playing this game. I really wish I did after seeing so much backlash online
>>745570924>What if Cornel West but we make him an archer
>>745575720Characters are all deliberately designed to be imbalanced, so you needed to travel in pairs to cover each other's hard counters. BUT, the game ALSO encouraged you to switch characters more than once a round, as previous characters used gave you passive bonuses.
>>745575749wow, who the fuck is that guy, and why did the horizon team put him in the game?
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>>745575779Also, EVERYBODY was slow as fuck. I hated movement with everybody...maybe less so with the Bazzinator. Combine that with high TTK, which meant you had contstant stalemate plink offs where nobody could get an advantage.No ults or hypercharges for pushing either.
>>745575571Robbing rich people isn't the problem, Payday 2 is great at that. But formally organized competitive sports team career criminals breaking into the same house at the same time to upstage each other while being televised? It just sounds like a slapstick bit.
>>745575682>I let a homosexual blow a pozzed load in my ass because if I'm going to shit on faggots I intend to do it as accurately as possible Uuhhh thank you for your service, I guess?
>>745575749>>745575841See Boondocks: The Trial of R Kelley.
>>745571821It’s dead. More people are playing fucking Kenshi than this game. It’s over dude.
>>745575964Just remember my poz loaded ass when the motherfuckers in the press lie and say it's just an ignorant bunch of hateful grifters. Or what did that wolverine thread that just fell off call us? Making money from Musk? I paid money for this. Well, they gave me it back, but I would have done it anyways.
>>745571916I remember my buddy having so much fucking cope about this game when it came out. We all wanted it to be good but he took it harder than we did. This game pissed me off but iirc it was because it was one of the first or biggest tiles that used Games For Windows Live, I fucking could not stand that shit.
What's the deal with all these new competitive team-based games? Isn't that market already completely captured by other games?
>>745576298>Isn't that market already completely captured by other games?Yes, but it wasn't five years ago when all of these current flop games started development.
>>745574886Played like a fucking fiddle
>>745571527Someone who had tried it said that it is basically Nightrein but shit. And plays way worse. So it's a doomed project by this point cause it's not beating Fromsoft.
>>745575017Offtopic but I still sometimes think of that comic with her face covered in cum back when Assassin’s Creed was first being released. I remember being shocked the first time I saw it. How I wish I could return to those days, the innocence of myself and the internet was so much nicer. And I remember missing the netiquette of the 90s back then, too.
>>745567157and the horizon online gameand intergalactic god the end of the ps5 is going to be so kino
>>745576504You're forgetting that Sony also has GummyBears, a kid-friendly MOBA game in the style of Splatoon, made by a team from Bungie that Sony extracted and made their own studio.
>>745576598lmao I also forgot laufeygod this sony self destruction is so fucking kino
>>745574251Go watch the trailer, it’s even worse in motion. The morbidly obese femwhale even has a pegleg for extra victim points. This game feels like it should have released in 2018
>>745576598it's going to do amazing numbersMOBA's are coming back!
>>745574604>. If they ever release something like Veilguard or Dustborn, then they're wokeThats retarded, they donate to only democrats thats woke. They make ugly characters and work with sweet baby
>>745576459Funny thing. The original comic is still blocked by hash to this very fucking day, on a DCMA claim by jade herself.
>>745575569We know of their retarded structure, doesn't make it good
>>745574604Bro NTA but BGIII is FILLED with woke shit throughout the game, what are you talking about? You are really gonna sit here and tell me you didn’t have multiple times you recognized clear leftist propaganda or degeneracy? Seriously?
>>745569981you are a terminally online loser you worthless retarded turd
Reminder Concord was supposed to have weekly animated shorts like the ones Overwatch had, and also paid to have an episode of Amazon's video game show Secret Level dedicated to it. By the time the episode aired, the game had been offline for months.
>>745576857No fucking way that is hilarious kek, I kept wondering why I haven’t seen it in years.
>>745576959I wonder how much money they put into this marketing plan40 million? 80 million?
>>745576917projection
>>745576806>they donate to only democrats thats woke.Learn what woke is
>>745576998You're retarded if you think its that high, there was no commercials or advertisements anywhere. It was at a few game shows and thats about it
>>745577035I guess democrats are no longer woke, you going to vote for AOC right
>>745577063they made a goddam ANIMATED EPISODE for it on amazon's secret level. They accelerated it's dev to be the game to go with the PS5 pro, and those internal ads were fucking everywhere inside the PS ecosystem.
>>745567157I WANNA PLAY JADE'S CONCORD GAME!
>>745577102Most democrats are woke, but supporting democrats is not in and of itself woke.
>>745569368All you had to do was take the same engine and artstyle as the base games and make multiplayer monster hunter. And you would have printed money! While still being able to include whatever woke elements you want!Like which retard thought this cartoony artstyle was a good idea?
>>745570686 Yes?
>>745577479it needs to run on low end PCs and consoles
