>this is a 400 hours-long VN where the author uses complex metaphors to ask his his audience to give him a break as a writer and solicit sex from themBravo, Ryukishi...
I was going to ask if you thought I should read this, but sounds like after eps 1&2 he becomes a hack. a shame.
>>745651847Umineko could have been a nice, 40-hour magic-or-not mystery that also has family drama and plots-within-plots type of shit. It reeeeeaaaaaally goes off the rails as soon as Virgilia is introduced, which I think was in ep 3, so you're right, stopped at ep 2 was the move.
>unreader threadno love? couldn't see it
>>745653454Quit after finishing question arc. A fantastic decision on my part. Answer arc sounds like hot garbage.
>>745651847Umineko is pretty neat if you try to analyze it using the rules it gives you. Unfortunately the ending is a flop. But you still have 7 good chapters out of 8.
Why didnt Battler just fuck Rosa again
>>745651847/ourguy/ already confirmed that it only gets worse with each episodeThere's no point reading past the first one
>>745656765anon... that's his aunt...
>>745652336It's shit because the canon solutions to all mystery suck. I was giving it the benefit of the doubt until the servants became literal retards and everybody is on it. The unreliable narrator alone should be a red flag.The only fun you can extract out of this mess is trying to find a headcannon solution that doesn't suck, but that's just trying to salvage a pile of shit out of the sewers.
>>745658062>The unreliable narrator alone should be a red flag.the game makes it clear the narrator is only the protagonist of the story, everything else is fake
>>745657742and beatorichi is an incest love child, big deal
>>745658156Then why the fuck are there dozens of hours of meaningless & unreliable text in this """game"""?
>>745658480because without love, it cannot be seen
should i read this game?
>>745659250no. you should do anything else
>>745659250only after reading higurashi
TRANS WOMEM ARE REAL WOMEN
>>745649734>400 hourswut it took me barely 100 hours
>>745649734Mogged to oblivion by Higurashi
>>745653454sounds like somebody did not read attentively enough himselfhaven't you heard? being in love makes you see things that aren't there
>>745663070The lack of love made you blind, friend.
Without dial, it cannot 8
>>745659250it is 80 or 100 hours of very boring stuff going on, which is rarely good. like i think like 90% of everything that is going on is boring unbearable bullshit
>>745649734Barred
>>745662579This. Nothing in Umineko comes close to the high of 5 and 6 of Higurashi.
>>745671058not even Krauss Counter?
>>745649734130 hours.>>745651847The meta bullshit starts at ep.5, just pirated and give a try.
>>745671383>The meta bullshit starts at ep.5what? it literally starts at the end of ep 1with Battler refusing
>>745671737What I meant to say is that commentary about the mystery genre and relantionship between a writer and his readers starts in chiru.
>>745672213I don't remember exactly when he starts making it obvious so so you're probably right but I'd like to point out that he was already foreshadowing that in ep 1. I distinctly remember a scene where Battler walks in on the aunts talking about how the heart is the greatest mystery of all
>pachinko
>>745649734umineko was not for me, on a related note I pray for Ryukishi's downfall
>>745652336Ep 3 is the best episode.
>>745661872They arent even trans.>>745672793This is more about how shes deeply involved in crime in the first place and it doesnt come close to romance (because romance is about rudolph/her/Asuma and the swapped). Not about meta writer stuff.Its a hint toward multiple things.>>745663070Erika was wrong about that unfortunately.But she was so right about natsuhi fucking kinzo and Jessica being kinzos daughter.
>>745658480It's unreliable and meaningless depending of your perspective
>>745676263>Erika was wrong about that unfortunately.i get that erika's whole existence is predicated on epicly pwning everybody who wanted reals over feelsbut anybody reading that whole scene about her cheating boyfriend and ending with the idea of WOW THAT SURE WAS ONE EMOTIONAL EXPLORATION OF THE AMBIGOUS NOTION OF TRUTH IN REAL WORLD simply stopped thinking and drunk the magic koolaidafter all, is sincerely being in love all while two-timing some sidechick not even more reprehensible? at least an honest scumbag is consistent in his selfishness
>>745677768She was wrong and made it up in her head that she was being cheated on.Thats why with too much love you can see things that arent real.
>>745678040>well you see we don't KNOW for sure if all the shit erika was talking about was simply a jealous spergout or an understandable grievanceyeah let's reinterpret everything and anything into whatever you want, because not a word can be trusted to be word of god, now that's a moral worthy of oomee-catare you by any chance a ""fan"" of YIIK? everybody loves to make highly abstract interpretation to make sense of that damn mess, might be right up your alley
>>745653454I'm so Erika-pilled that I didn't even read part 8 because I'd already gotten all the mystery parts revealed in part 7 that I actually cared about.
>>745678736Its very obvious that she has problems with reality man. >>745678865Yeah after being right about almost everything ep 8 wasnt as required for me. I will say it was pretty weak but has good moments within.
Well I loved the idea and execution (mostly, except the 10 hours of Ange malding) of everything behind Episode 8. And I liked the ending.Sue me. You can't. Because magic is real
>>745679578Episode 4 does a much better job of getting across "the point" of Umineko than Episode 8 does because it doesn't spend half its runtime on LE WHACKY MAGIC BATTLES. But apparently that means it has bad pacing according to redditors.
>>745649734The anime's OP is really good.>You may be ruthless, but how cruel will my punishment be?Bars
>>745679010>r07 character>has problemssay it ain't so brotherlike half the cast are delusional (read: written as impressively ignorant) about different aspects of their lives anyway, what am i supposed to take away here exactly?my ultimate point is that for a strawman, erika does coherently except for playing a key player in arguably the single worst plot point: le contradiction in ep6 stand up for the idea she representspresumably why edgy ange conjures her specifically, as unlike all the other variously crazy bitches, erika embodies a very specific rejection of the themes the story keeps beating a reader over the head with
>>745652336>It reeeeeaaaaaally goes off the rails as soon as Virgiliathat's when it starts getting really good
>>745654030genuinely filtered
>the very first twilight>rosa killing the goats>beatrice tricking you>maria slaughtering rosa>battler reaching the golden truth>erika killing everyone>kyrie and rudolf killing everyone>bernkastel getting punched in the faceSo many KVNO moments and /v/ermin still get filtered, sad!
>>745656941How's your custody battle going, Joe?
>>745681152He lost it a long time ago. The wife took everything.
if you hate the ending, you're illiterateif you hate the filler, you are an ADD zoomer that is missing the most important part of the storyif you hate the magic lightshow debates, you lack whimsyif you hate the message of the story, you have no soulif you hate the prose, you're factually right and are fully entitled to your criticism
>>745681453Guessing the judge took one look at his body of "work" over the last ten years including not being able to make a youtube video and immediately ruled in her favor. Checks out.
>>745681152>>745681453he gets phone calls from his lawyers to the point of having to mute stream (see the last strangers of paradise stream)he admitted to going to court through a story of his kidmust be hard pretending like streaming is not your main source of income just so your wife doesn't get to claim a larger share of your income kek
>>745681985>stream >wife gets to take even moreI hate women.
>>745681985For a while I actually admired Joe because he was the one example of a streamer with a large happy family. Such a shame.
>>745662579>this fat bastard does one of Umineko's messages better than the entirety of Umineko
The Epitaph is literally impossible to solve>uhhh just magically know kinzo lived in taiwan lol
>>745682806This guy solved it before reading the answer arcs.https://youtu.be/oe43Q_G0hPg
>>745682806Actually chud, Krauss talks to Natsuhi about how areca nuts are from Taiwan and how Kinzo loves them
i am completely fucking befuddled how such a large number of VN readers treat word count as a creative virtuethen i remember that the one textual medium that consistently reaches "war & peace" levels of length is fanfiction, and have to remind myself that engaging in recreational reading does not make one sophisticated
>>745683072That's in episode 5. It comes too late.
>>745683072I love tacos but I'm not mexican tho
>>745682806It was pretty funny watching the collective english-only fanbase try to hack it out back in the day, only for it to be revealed that the first iteration of the english translation was about as useful in terms of providing directions as the song "Stand" by R.E.M.
>>745682493I still like watching him. Should play more weeb games though, they have so many turns and twists that they really lend themselves to his type of humor.
>>745683123Umineko seems like a perfect fit for you since you like to engage in imaginary arguments against theoretical opponents.
>>745682806it's almost impossible in english, in japanese people did get it though
>>745682493>For a while I actually admired Joe because he was the one example of a streamer with a large happy familynorthernlion
>>745684008>has one daughter who's already experiencing self-hatred over being a hapa
>>745683669I like watching him actually play the game, but more and more often he devolves into key jingling for his audience about gender/political discourse and gets away from the game itself. I guess he needs to farm the "but wouldn't she be better with a PENIS" and "dude BILLIONAIRES SUCK" trogs to fund his legal battle. The Strangers of Paradise finale was a perfect example, it was basically unwatchable between his chat ruining it and him going AFK through the climax multiple times.
>>745656941>had his own quirk chungus Beatrice>blew it
>>745684008>northernlionBoring as shit
>>745683669I can't watch him anymore because he's so depressed. You can tell he hates himself.
>>745681985>>745681453Genuinely kill women
>>745684385Yeah, the pandering to his audience is basically him digging a deeper hole for himself by not actually growing and getting new people in through streaming regularly.Another thing that fucks him is streaming once-popular games way past their streamability date. Makes a cycle of:1. being forced to play popular game by his community2. promising to do so later3. streaming it to subpar numbers and interest4. growing resentful of his audiencewith the next loops making the promise-to-stream span even longer
>>745684663but the depression is the best part
>>745684385>pull up a stream for background noise>he starts talking about Atplas Shrugged like it's the fucking Turner Diaries
>>745682502>fat bastardballroom dancer physique*
>>745656941>>745681152>>745681985>>745683669>>745685249E-celebs niggers derailing the thread should get a permanent rangeban, this is not instagram to gossip about your favorite whore
>>745684906fucking kill yourself nigger, nobody cares about your literally who boyfriend, go back to instagram news
>>745659250It's one of quintessential all ages vns.
>>745685937>>745686001yikes
>>745679884Yeah episode 8 is far from flawless, too many memes and a bit of fluff, and as I said, it mianders too much on ange throwing a fit. But I understand (and respect) the idea of wanting to throw a gigantic mega battle to wrap everything up before delivering the emotional climax of the story.The first third was good, the last third was good, the middle one... not so much. But I liked it overall and it could've been such a monumental fucking disaster that I don't mind the flaws too much.
>>745676263>they>cuckold fantasy
>>745679884les be real there are few reasons someone wouldn't like ep 4- they don't understand and cannot empathize with the characters- it gets too close for comfort for people who repress their memoriesthis are just facts dont mind me
>>745687986You forgot>it's too silly
For me, it's miragecoordinatorhttps://youtu.be/p85zQLOMlUY
>>745689185I like happiness of the marionettehttps://youtu.be/C_DS1PGioWc
>>745651847it's kino, ignore the trolling.
So WE all agree that Ikuko = Sayu, right?
>>745689185System0 and its shockingly apt stolen Star Trek voice samples lives rent free in my head forever - https://youtu.be/Zs4wKRHmiR8
>>745656941>cries like a bitch at the ending and calls it a masterpiece
>>745690523I thought it was obvious that yasu was going to live like battler did when bern's red truth in ep8 was about beatrice and not the culprit. Ikuko's name as well just cements it, I don't know why people even deny it
Is Ange still a virgin in 2050?
>>745689185>>745690215Episode 3 is a masterpiece from beginning to end.>the white horse>first time ronove shows up with tomokazu goddamn sugita voicing him>first twilight with kinzo burning up, genji suiciding and putting shannon to rest>first time virgilia shows up>"it's like a braun tube">virgilia fighting beatrice for magic battle hype>beatrice the second's flashback>first time the epitaph gets solved>the entirety of eva beatrice's character>battler gets shot in the fucking face by eva>who the fuck even murdered dr nanjo>eva beatrice red wall creppypasta of death>SIGN, SIGN, SIGNI can't. I like the whole VN, but this one is where it peaked. Literal 10/10 would read again any day.https://youtu.be/T1IHzYIFzok
>>745691541With her personality? It's probable. Though there is a slight chance she isn't, because, I'd guess, most of her trust issues are about women.
>>745691541She'd probably imagine all her relatives looking at her when she's masturbating or having sex so that would be awkward
umineko moms deserve cock correction
>>745691541No, she had to work as a prostitute in the beginning of her writing carrer, read episode 10.
>>745689185the episode 4 tea party is still absolute kino, for as much people meme small bombs, it being played completely straight makes it so coolhttps://youtu.be/6Qs9EiK_JJE
>>745696871>kumasawa, genji and nanjo stared at each other, pointed at each other's head with a rifle clockwise and pulled the trigger simultaneously blowing each other's brains>something something devil's proof I don't have to explain shitthis one is as good as small bombs in my opinion, even beato laughed her ass off
>>745697032>beato realizing battler is just going to start bullshitting for the win she had to say no simultaneous murders in red for the next mystery
>>745686549>all agesthis "game" is exclusively for manchildren, like all visual novels
>>745697339All age is a term to say that there isn't porn
>>745697339go be brown somewhere else
>>745656765It wasn't said in read that they weren't fucking
>>745691794>Nanjo>epitaph gets solved>Beato is supposed to give herself up >for some reason, she just doesn't lmaoThat would be like her, but the gameboard is supposed to have hard rules.
>>745651847It has a manga adaptation that's really solid. Definitely the best way to experience it. The manga fixes some of the more iffy aspects of the later chapters and massively cuts down on the needless meandering.
>>745699552She didn't give up because she didn't knew that Eva solved the epitaph.
>>745699552On Game 3 the epitaph was solved by Eva (the piece), and she became a witch in the story while Beato stepped down. The Game 3 (in-game universe) ends with Eva murdering everyone and running away with the cash, but that's just a game, with no context for the game board.Then she pulls off the most devilish 180 to try and swing battler which was amazing.You only give game master duties to whoever solves all the mysteries within Rokkenjima, that's why only Battler (in the meta world) gets that right at the end of Chapter 5.
>>745699738>Definitely the best way to experience itFUCK no, the voice acting and music is required
>>745681570I don't like the ending because its sad
>>745703016it should inspire you to keep living
reminder ange is fat
>>745704836ange has a fat butt*
