>The 30 year anniversary is coming up in 3 weeks>Not a single PEEP out of Activision or Toys for Bob or Sony or even Naughty DogSo this is the slow death of a beloved IP huh? I thought things were supposed to look better for us after Crash 4...
>>745693276Slow death? This nigga wasn't even in PS all stars
>>745693276Well, Crash 4 was a franchise killer. That's why Crash's twitter hasn't even updated to announce he's in fortnite.https://x.com/CrashBandicoot
People overestimate Crash’s legacy. Only the ps1 games were real hits.
>>745693276He's in Fortnite soon
>>745693276He's in fortnite and they've been releasing new merch. Calm the fuck down.
Post it
>>745693631>headcanonWoC sold 5.5 million copies.
>>745693662>>745693745Oh JOY!Fortnite and Funko Pop!? Wow just delete the thread mods, clearly Crash is doing A-OK!
>>745693276This series fucking sucks anon
>>745693817Wrath of Cortex sold initially on brand recognition alone and tanked over time because the game was mediocrity incarnate. Every single game after that (except for the nostalgia cashgrab remakes) has been a monumental disaster and the very definition of diminishing returns.Wrath of Cortex killed Crash the most painful way possible, with a slow death by a thousand cuts.At least Crash 4 and Troon Rumble completely obliterated the IP on the spot.
>>745694354>Crash wasn't popular after the PS1>N-NO, NOT LIKE THAT THAT DOESNT COUNTevery time
>>745694761I see, you're like 12 years old. You have to be at least 18 to post here.
I had fun playing wrath of Cortex as a kid, only years later did I find out it was hated
>>745694954I recently emulated it and I had fun with it. It's still worse than any of the PS1 games, but it was still a decent time overall. It's just basically crash 3.5 with more gimmick levels, (I hate the mech suit levels)
>>745694761I know like, it's genuinely an issue that there's a(t least one) toys for bob faggot that posts in these threads.But I wonder if the seething rage at people that like Crash games other than the ps1 ones is some weird cope that for some reason "their" crash 4 is somehow less bad.Even though much of it is explicitly worse than wrath and not just because you know It's About Time had an unmolested development cycle and there isn't the possibility of a>Director's CutThat fixes the niggling problems of the game like wrath has.
>>745696235People are allowed to like whatever they want and that's fine. I love crash bash even if it's a gigantic piece of dogshit. But I'm aware it's a gigantic piece of dogshit, and that won't stop me from liking it. Same with Twinsanity or whatever.I'd rather take a thousand Wrath of Cortexes than another Crash 4 I'll tell you that much, but Wrath of Cortex was still a failiure that destroyed Crash's reputation for years until Nsane Trilogy revived it, and then Crash 4 killed it again. Well, not the fault of the team behind the game, but Universal's mismanagement, holiday deadlines, yadda yadda. You know the deal.
>>745696532>Hey I'm really reasonable but um all the games are irredeemably horrible but less horribler than It's about time which killed the game and nobody liked crash until toys 4 bob saved it and those damn crash fans that don't exist killed the ip by not buying itYou know there's a reason why people love Nitro Fueled, and it's not because of malignant autists that hate fun online.
>>745697079I don't even know what your problem with my post is, but honestly I don't care.
Crash Team Rumble killed this series for good.
>>745694354Dead thread but I'm bored so i'm mega blogpostingTWoC did badly damage the image of Crash with being the 1st game on next gen (and Jak brutually mogged it) but I think Crash could've bounced back if any of the other devs actually caredNearly every dev post ND didn't really care for ND's artstyle and just did their own thing>VV were faithful to the ND style but never got a chance to make a mainline platformer. They were also the most respectful too like how they brought back Zembillas for CNK. CNK is far worse than CTR tho>TS dials up the wacky factor of Crash's Looney Tunes influence to 200% and is its own thing. This was the start of the flanderization (Crash acting like a dog, Coco is a ditzy airhead, Cortex becoming too overly silly instead of intimidating)>Radical is the final blow, the TS depiction of the cast is now even more exaggerated and we've hit full flanderization. Crash is even more retarded, Crunch is just Mr T etc>CTTR is the worst kart racer with boring track design and repetitive destruction gimmicks that get old fast>Titans series surprisingly has lots of callbacks and weirdly keeps the established world design of ND (while trying to expand it) but the gameplay, character designs, writing, and personalities don't fit Crash in the slightest and kill him until NST comes alongWe also now know from dev insights, that TWoC and TS was 100% the fault of the senior/lead devs and had nothing to do with the publisher, Traveller's Tales had some good talent but their leadership was beyond retardedRadical are really weird overall but they by far did the most damage since that was the true point of no return with how flanderized Crash became.Even if TWoC still happened, if a dev like VV got to do a mainline they would've course corrected Crash I feel1/3
Coco posting begins....NOW!!!
>>745699467>At least Crash 4 and Troon Rumble completely obliterated the IP on the spot.TfB games are worse than TWoC to me because TfB just repeated the exact same mistakes that killed Crash in the first placeThis era was just a repeat of the PS1 era>Remakes out of nowhere, heavily advertise that Crash is going back (and sticking to) the ND style>Big success, Crash is back as an icon despite NSTs problems>Everyone wants CTR next, NF delivers while also giving much more than people were expecting>NF adds so much new content it's more of a new game instead of a remake, and all the characters are designed to fit more with an ND-like artstyle>Time for new game, hype levels maximumThen>TfB randomly change the artstyle (again)>Character designs don't look anything like their ND versions. Cortex is closer to his Titans design than ND>IAT's marketing talks about how the dimension theme will bring new ideas but it's just a Warped rehash like TWoC>Physics aren't accurate to the OG trilogy (even NST was more accurate). Riding controls were absolute dogshit on launch and even post patch they still suck>Misunderstands Crash gameplay design with bloated box counts and spamming hidden boxes and gems everywhere>Copies TWoC level design of normal platforming into gimmick sections, but spams them even harder>Barely any Aku masks (and they don't carry over in levels), quantum masks are either rehashes of things we've seen before (Tornado Spin) or basic platformer gimmicks we've seen in other games lots of times>Retcons every game post Warped>Many characters are completely OOC>The forced woah meme2/3
>>745699489Yes!
>>745699532Everything about IAT shows that TfB don't get Crash, and they're no different to the other post ND devs that damaged the franchiseYes I admit post ND devs treated Crash badly and killed him, but I cannot ignore it happening all over again because Crash had a bigger audience than he did in the 90s with the remakes and he became an actual icon againIt's one thing for Crash's first death being due to him getting passed around and devs only caring about 'their' takes instead of being faithful to what Crash is and making their take be continually building upon Crash.But it's another to now see the bad history, then make the willing choice to repeat literally everything all over againTfB repeating history by only caring about their take, but then their take of Crash just boils down to rehashing shit but with worse physics, worse art design, flanderization again.At the bare minimum the other post ND devs actually did new things but TfB didn't even do that.Titans games gave Crash the JUST haircut and turned Tiny into Tony Tiger but even those shit games actually tried to tie things together.TfB just threw everything away and went "THIS is Crash now and he's better than before" then wow look at that he died againI don't care for TS but I get why it has a micro fanbase, and I also get why the Titans games don't have a cult following.It's been 6 years since IAT and nobody talks about it earnestly, if it gets brought up it's always about the art style, the box counts, hidden boxes/gems, the cringe writing etcIf someone says they like it, then they cannot say that without also pointing out about how people dislike it or they just outright shit on other people for disliking itThat's why TfB treatment is far worse than even Radical to me, Crash was even bigger than before but the death this time hits harder Let's not even get into RumbleThe only positive things I feel about Crash rn is the PS1 CTR custom content as that's actually hype3/3
>>745693276Crash was only good when Naughty Dog made them.
>>745699467>We also now know from dev insights, that TWoC and TS was 100% the fault of the senior/lead devs and had nothing to do with the publisherAs far as I know, Traveler's Tales initially wanted to make something more open world akin to Twinsanity (when it was called Crash Bandicoot Worlds) before Universal dialed everything back and caused trouble during development. This may be outdated info.The game had heavy time constraints too and had to be developed in essentially 11 months which was rough for the new hardare + new team combo.Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
>>745699684>This may be outdated info.It is actuallySome of the actual TS devs (including FakeNina) have talked about the development of TS and it went like this>Crash Evolution was the first idea, original plot was Evil Twins were making their own planet by taking pieces of other planets, and they were going to take the islands (One of the devs mentioned the twins were based on the martians from Looney Tunes)>Got scrapped because lead devs saw R&C1 recently release that had the exact same plot and setting>TS turned into dimension hopping, but the lead/senior devs couldn't agree on a solid idea forward which lead to many devs leaving the project and new ones being brought in>Many devs worked on different ideas they felt sounded cool>Final version of TS was a desperate stitched together of attempt of things that workedIf you don't believe me you can look at the TS devs YT where they've shared many stories and official dev docs and concept art that's never been shown beforeDevs have said that the publishers were very patient with them, gave them extended time and budget to make TS, and they were responded positively to the tech they got shown like TS' physics systemOne of the devs even said that one of the guys sent by the publisher to check in on the dev team got shown how the box placement tool worked and is the reason why there's lots of Nitro crates everywhere as that guy thought Nitro crates were great gameplayLike I mentioned in my other post, I'm not a big TS fan but if you're interested in the history at least watch this trio of vids about Crash Evolution.For the other stuff I've mentioned, you'll need to watch their other vids as the info is all scattered around themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJPGyRZRbYkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_spdTexn_4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPyHDyRX4LwThe N.Gin battleship vid also had lots of TS infohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTOz0IO-Ps
>>745700978Also Mecha Bandicoot was also supposed to have a shmup-like level which was supposed to explain how it got from Crash's dimension to the 10th onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAHRhAlwlqA
>>745694954Wrath Of Cortex is fun as an introduction to the franchise until you realize it's just Warped but with worse controls, worse boss fights, worse abilities, and more annoying vehicles.
Crash is the best!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aRXdSdzJTuc&list=RDaRXdSdzJTuc&start_radio=1
>>745693662>>745693745I have no words
>>745693276It should've died the moment it left Naughty Dog's hands. Every game after that was just a painful desecration of the IP.
>>745693276turns out no one cares about the DKC with tacked on 3d and no movement tech scotformer that got gaped and raped wide open by mario 64
>>745693817yeah due to brand recognition alone, you realize it's a terrible game 5 minutes in
>>745696235This
>>745693276The PS1 games were the only good ones, who fucking cares. It's a zombie IP like Sonic or dunno, Megaman.
I really wish VV had a shot at a mainline Crash. The GBA Crash platformers were probably the best thing we had gotten from the series after NDWe could've had a kino Crash 4 with them
>>745693276let it go anon
>>745703249shame we'll never get to see what that could've beenthey got robbed twice, once in the 00s and again in the 2010s with how everyone was expecting them to make the next crash after nst and future tense
>Still no PC port
>>745693631I'm still mad at Sony for blowing it. Imagine having a Mario killer and just letting other retards take it away instead of purchasing the IP.
>>745703626>PC Port announced>Denuvo and EAC added to make the game run like crapMonkeys paw
>>745703626Anon...it's been nearly 10 years now...It's owari da...
>>745704510>7 years agoFeels like 2....
>>745693276this was a series of games for kids i played when i was 6 anon
>>745693276It went through the slow death like 20 years ago, then failed to have a revival a few years ago. You should be over this by now
>>745702824Crash looks weird with too many polygons and textures
>>745705016And?
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>>745705016And the game journalists of today struggle to clear it
>>745706129so why does anyone care about the series at this point? it was literally a cartoon mascot game for children
>>745706885Because the games were even if the franchise was marred with management fairly good and mostly designed to actually be something fun to play?You know, even setting aside the whole "game for children" thing you're mixing up with the game for everyone thing
>>745706885>it was literally a cartoon mascot game for childrenbro that's nearly every scrimblothat's like asking why people care about mario or sonic
>>745693276Let my nigga rest in piece. This IP died the second Sony released PS2.
>>745703713Actually it isn't their fault. The Crash Bandicoot IP was owned by Universal Interactive as apart of the contract Naughty Dog signed to gain a publisher for the original Crash Bandicoot game, Universal Interactive then got bought out and merged to become Vivendi Games who got bought out and merged to become Activision Blizzard. Which is why they own the Crash IP now. Naughty Dog didn't own their own IP, neither did Sony. So Crash got whored out into becoming another third party mascot platformer and Sony retaliated by buying Naughty Dog all together in 2001 to avoid that bullshit from happening twice. Got to love how litigious and bureaucratic the gaming industry is behind the scenes.
>>745699598Thanks for the effortpost, Anon. Goods work and almost perfectly mirrors how I feel.God damn, we were so close to getting some good, new Crash games. Can't overstate how lucky we were that NST and Nitro-Fueled turned out as well as they did. The teams behind those games cared. Glad I got to play NF through all the Grand Prix events.
>>745693276>Not a single PEEP out of Activision or Toys for Bob or Sony or even Naughty DogIt would overshadow that new Spyro game
>>745693631Actual Valid TakeI’m also a Crash Bash Enjoyer I love its OST
>>745699489Ohhh look at that tummy
>>745706885Stop being dumb
>>745706218Sex
>>745708056Let's be honest...it's gonna flop
>>745707335why do people care about mario or sonic? I don't>>745706980>fairly good for 6-8 year olds, yes
>>745693276there was a crash 4?
>>745700978That’s Twins, sure, but TWoC was 100% fucked over by Universal.
>>745693276What do you expect them to announce?
>>745709767Yeah
>>745709962Just a "Happy Anniver Crash!" Tweet would sufficeAt least pretend they care
>>745710774The anniversary isn't here yet Who makes a celebration like that 3 weeks in advance?
>>745710774I know it's not what you're hoping for but if you care for the CTR mods the 30th anniversary custom adventure mode mod was nice to play
They're so boring and ugly
>>745710774Corporations do not care. If I could put into words the bizarro levels or apathetic void they have for people and IP'S they manage I would. All they care about is momentary profit or gain. This could be something as simple as stealing candy from a baby to grandiose like getting 2 billion dollars from a capeshit movie everyone forgot the same day. They do not care. If they could have insects elevated to human intellect and then duped into paying 1000 dollars for movies and vidya they would do it.
>>745713004Soul vs Soulless
Twinsanity was the first game by that team
>>745713514and its still the one with the best OST
>>745706885Its comforting to talk about the shared interest or disinterest in anything with people. Sometimes humor or new information can be learned from talking about it.
>>745715128Zoomers can't grasp not talking about whatever's not the latest flavor of the month
>>745703249Agreed. don't understand why they choose tfb instead of making them do another spyro
>>745715393For me its that the CNK models still exist but were only used for one game. They didn't make an actual platformer with them at all when they best resemble the ND aesthetic in an updated console gen. They kept reinventing how Crash looked for every fucking game. Even when it didn't make sense. You go from the eternally smiling Twinsanity Crash to the tribal tattoos. How? Why?
