tokon patch rn
>>745798016Eww, she's all White and shit
>>745798016Magik is for pegging me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v322rGZngg4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKwBMHign8ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b8S4TDzSZchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsVmZnq-xMQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOgDiIA0ynwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqE-5y_q1dkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asog8WxBQ-shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvYlX653W8Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh2d2MJmrC4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPnysHmHDs
>>745798123I got you covered
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/snk-entertainment-dissolved-after-10-years-most-of-its-businesses-transferred-to-parent-company-snk/
>>745798016Did they remove the DRMs yet?
I'm seething at my current main in Centralfiction, it feels like nothing he does works for me and everything gets beatenI do like playing Azrael but I get annoyed at so much shit
>>745798263burakku
Why has Shen been MIA since 13 anyway? He was always one of my favorites.
>>745798309>operating loss of $125 million on SNKYikes, they need new gen talent soon.
What's going to be the next fighter to bite the dust?
>get into fighting games>don't get to play for 20 seconds if you take a single stray hit>games are entirely built around unclear situations and obscuring characters>if you guess wrong then you lose>retarded hitboxes and frame dataIs this just arcsys games or is it the whole genre? I've only played arcsys but it's making me hate fighting games
Korra won
>>745799029Storywise no info about him after XIII.
>>745799216that's about par for the course yeah.
>>745799184Why is Granblue there? Not even part of the tag fighter battlefield massacre.
games have too much fucking hitstun these days man
>>745799296It's not a tag fighter but I'm guessing it's there because people assumed it would fizzle out really quick too. But it didn't. I wonder why...
>>745799249That's a shame...
>>745799412GBVSR still has a really strong niche despite being another 20 second combos strong universal mechanics fighting game. It's still the only modern fighting game you can play where you spend most of the match in neutral.
>>745799367*COUNTERs this post*
>>745798350Did the DRM really Denuvo tier ?
>>745799412There are other fighters that still being supported that are more older than the game. Weird how they targeted Granblue but hey, 1v1 enjoyers are still eating good.
>>745799296Avatar is there too so it's a general image
>>745799490Above Denuvo. Theia is literally stage 4 cancer. Most problems of the performance including the decrypt encrypt asset shit came from that DRM. It needs to be removed considering the game already got gameripped (models and lossless musics are out in the wild now) to death plus mods exists.
My impossible Christmasland wish for Twilumina is that since the story seems to be based on KT they sneak SHIKI in. I've waited literally twenty years for the character.
>hear my main got buffed>look inside>it's undeserved nerfs being reverted>still has no neutral>still has no shield pressure>still dies to bad DI at 80% and can't kill until 120%>still dropped by every single person who played her and filtered out of every bracket by top 8This is NOT very cash money
>>745799772>vgFuck I'm a retard I guess
>>745799868They'll never make Oly good for the sake of their Zetter vision.You need to move on.
>>745799184Tokon on PC
>>745798016Incredibly amusing to me that these retards put in 7 anticheats / antiviruses / antimods that all run simultaneously while the game is open yet the game STILL got cracked. And despite the game STILL being cracked, they will not remove the 7 antiviruses / anticheats / antimods. I've never seen such intentional sabotage of a game. They even refused to release it in 130+ countries. What the fuck?
>>745800013I actually don't mind Zetterburn being top tier. He's fun to fight and, coincidentally, Olympia:Zetterburn is Olympia-favored. With how RoA characters are designed, there are much, MUCH worse characters who could be #1, Zetterburn is arguably #1 by a mere cock hair, and the roster is relatively balanced as a whole.If a floaty was #1 I'd kill myself.
CUAAAKS BOOM PUWAUW
>>745800073Sony has been an absolute dogshit company throughout the entirety of the PS5's lifespan, arguably even since the PS4 days.I would not be surprised in the slightest if they thought Tokon was good enough to coerce fighting game players into buying their shit machine, so they gimped the PC version on purpose. Yes, that sounds like a retarded business decision but these are the same people who made Concord and still give work to the people who made Concord.
>play fighterz again with some friends>can't really stick to a main team>get my ass shredded>they also note that I keep sticking to ultra short combosI don't think I can ever get into tag games properly.
>>745800289I wish I had friends who played fighting games. I have one friend who will sometimes play MK1 but he requires us both to keep swapping characters as some weird form of ego protection for him so he can feel like he only loses cause he's not playing his best character.
>>745798309>>745799170thats what they get for not putting mai in a bikini
>>745800454I've been playing fighting games with a group of friends for years and it's fucked up because we've been decently consistent but we've never managed to get two people on the same skill level for long. There's one guy who's way better than me, then I'm way better than the next guy, who's way better than the fourth guy, and it's impossible to get good sets between us.
>it's a friend has clearly way more time than you because he's unemployed episode
>>745800454I used to have a fighting game buddy but then he got groomed by some disgusting transbian and trooned out and cut all contact with me.
>>745799184what happened with the avatar game?
>>745798263a magik negro
>>745798016Can‘t wait for this dogshit genre to die out and be forgotten forever
>>745800705Rushed to release. Missing core features and has incomplete characters despite being a 12 character launch roster.That said I don't think it's going to die, I think it'll probably enter the same space GBVSR has occupied of just surviving stably on a smaller playerbase until it reaches the natural end of its cycle.
>>745800705Pushed out too soon, no ranked not even lobbies.
Why does Bob look so underwhelming, from everything that I've seen from him so far? This is not how I was expecting things to go.
>>745800759I believe the correct term is negress
>>745800705Released as a game in a dying genre. Any other answer is cope
the avatar game has horrible balancing but no one talks about itchars like zaheer and azula have every single thing then you have the braindead top tier gorillas like kyoshi and toph
>>745800774What exactly were you expecting and does he not meet those expectations?
>>745800818Faggot
>>745798016Magik is for blond Aryan boys exclusively
>>745800869Unless they have huge ips like marvel or dragon ball behind them fighting games are doomed to fail. Keep ignoring it and making up bullshit excuses.
>>745800834There're clear tiers but it gets a lot of leeway because it's a character focused game so it doesn't feel bad to play low tiers. Like, NKorra is probably the bottom 1 character and has very big flaws but I'd rather play her than play a mid tier in Street Fighter since she has her own game plan instead of just being a 49% win rate version of a 51% win rate top tier.
>>745800996it doesn't feel bad to play low tiers retards when your only AA is an air throw that you don't even get a combo out ofabomination of a community that will silently kill this game
>>745798016Stop saying fighting game(s) it's clearly only SF6 and FOTM flops
>>745801370>the only games that exist are whatever is popular right nowWow /v/ really doesn't play games
how do I into leverlessshould I try playing with my keyboard first to see if I'd like it or are keayboard keys too small to emulate how it feels
>>745798016Tokon needs more women.
>>745801903It's a cheap and decent alternative if you just want to get the hang of the control scheme. The size of the keys wasn't an issue for me personally, when I did eventually get a leverless it just felt like a way more ergonomic keyboard.Just be mindful of key rollover, many keyboards have a limit of how many keys can be pressed simultaneously and still register. It's kind of random which ones they are depending on how it's wired internally, and it can fuck with whatever bindings you're using.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWUUEzz0_Bwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAjYfTAdX3A
>>745800454as a guy who likes moving characters around when playing fighting games with friends, I can vouch for your boy. It keeps things a sporting competition. a "game". fun for everyone.the reality of pitting ones mains against eachother ALL NIGHT LONG is that some matchups aren't fun. Some matchups are unfair and going to lose 9 times out of 10. "learn the matchup get good" only goes so far because sometimes I KNOW the matchup inside and out and I don't have an answer for it and I can admit it. It then falls on the guy who has perfected a (usually toptier) character to willingly switch off in the name of sporting. Being a good sport goes both ways and I really do not enjoy the aggressive ego stuff. i don't enjoy getting farmed for wins all night I want to play fun matches/sets where both players at least have a chance. Does that make sense? I do the exact same courtesy when playing games where i have the advantage as well. It is sadistic to use one's main against a noobie over and over and over imo.If you're practicing for a tournament or something then yea you need a proper sparring partner, and if you have a buddy you can go toe-to-toe with, with mains, and go all out and have fun that is ideal. mirror match. But not everyone has that.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BE A GOOD SPORT THAT'S BEING A HECKIN SCRUB CORE-A TOLD ME SO
>>745799170I don't know what can possibly help them at this point
>>745801903start taking estrogen if you plan on playing leverless, ive heard it helps a lot unironically
>>745798309Why do they always gets closer to the bankruptcy rope everytime? Either they are the toughest company to die or just kept doing bad decisions.
>>745801370Fuck off retard
>>745801903the cheapest haute42's are like 40 bucks just grab one of those
I'm having a really weird problem with BlazblueI play Azrael and whenever I normal throw, I try to go into 236C, but the game never seems to register it as my rekka, it does 3C insteadIt's only ever after normal throwWhat's happening?
>>745798263Owes me sex
>>745803516They're retarded but the saudi princes love KoF so they keep saving them
>>745799236akshually she jobbed and zaheer won
>been in ranked queue for 10 minsmatchmaking not fixed in tokon it seems..
>>745803884It's weird how this makes her hotter.
>The new Tokon patch NERFED CHAMPION You genuinely can't make this shit up. Complain about Capcom's overly conservative approach to patching all you like, but at least they aren't literally mentally retarded like ArcSys balance team is.
>>745798016end of service in march 2027
>>745803808Seems consistent for me, maybe you're pressing C too early before the cancel window?Alternatively, do 6A 22C before the rekka
>>745804096The power of a Black Kween
>>745804236Yep you're right, I was doing it too early
Leverless playersHow do you deal with wrist pain? Do you have it on your lap or on a desk like a keyboard?Trying to learn Vice in KoF XIII is absolute hell on my wrist.
>>745799216That's just arcsys, but it feels like It's slowly becoming every fighting game.Even SF6 combos are beginning or border on overlong.
I've been out of the loop on the stick/hardware for the last 5 years.Have the Chinese taken over with those Haute leverless controllers yet to the point where they're like $60 now for a full sized one?
>>745804568Still the same mostly.Only difference is people are either using crossup leverless or using WASD leverless.Pad is reigning supreme tho
>>745804126the sword characters and spiderman will run this game for a year minimum, too
>Tokon sold less than 3k copies in Japan>It seems Sony did almost zero marketing for the game, it doesn't even have a japan twitter accountWhat was the point to hire ASW to animefied the characters then?
>>745798016fuck off arc troon
>>745804816Shut up cunt
>>745804568Chink leverless controllers are basically just a RP2040 board sandwiched between two pieces of plastic. A nice leverless is still 150+. Hitboxes are still the most expensive but nicest build quality, there's some overpriced razer/turtle beach shit, and qanba entered the market with the sapphire which is a great officially licensed controller on a budget.
>>745804795idk but i'm sick of shitnime art styles and arcslop in general
>>745801903OP here, I tried playing with a keyboard for 10 minutes and I have decided that this shit is ass and I will stick to pad
>>745798263Built for interracial lesbian sex.
>>745804930So trueLesbians are hot
Gun and ballers really didnt bite on Tokon the way Sony hoped they would huh, at this point Fighting Games are basically a PC genre. Any games for enthusiasts is basically PC now, not to mention lots of poorfags play fighting games and those are also on PC. Sony really didnt read the room on this one
>>745805162its already feels too late for this game honestly, unless the cyclops patch fixes every single complaint and has a massive sale on the base game
>>745804076nvm after i switched from us west from us east i started finding games in like 5 seconds
>>745799029Considering what it took to even get him to join in the first place, he probably just can't be bothered. I'm sure now that people are remembering Ash in universe he'll pop back up eventually to give Ash a piece of his mind
>>745805208they can fix the game over night with deleting EAC and PSN
>>745804795you should specify that its physical retail copies, don't wanna come across as disingenuous
Went online in tokon after the patch. Matchmaking seems a bit better now, and I had no 8 frame matches in about 10 of them. i don't have any issues currently, apparently it runs on much worse rigs now even the steam ver but idk because my pc is good
>>745804854>shitnimeFuck off back to whatever shithole website you crawled out of
>>745804854kill yourself
>>745805208I wouldn't go that far, but I think if it's going to have some kind of rise it's either going to be slow or there needs to be some kind of event to signpost it. Usually the big moment fighting games have is their launch and that's it, maybe some kind of version update could do it too, I'd say that was the case for SFV and its arcade edition. For Tokon I feel like the only thing I could see that happening with is if they remove the PSN stuff just because I think it's such an unlikely thing that it being done would be newsworthy and earn enough goodwill and faith that they're invested in the game that there would be a lot of positive word of mouth, but I also don't think that's going to ever happen.
>>745798016REMOVE THEIA
>>745798016Why is she looking at anon's crotch like this?
>>745798016Slav sex
Why does /sfg/ still hate Ingrid?
kekken 8
>>745806934Too magical?
>>745804126My cope is it's not a real balance patch, maybe he'll get buffed down the lineBut arcsys is definitely retarded when patching games, see how they nerfed the shit out of Testament in Strive 2.0>>745804771Yeah I don't really see how they can nerf sword characters since they'll also get pressure on block anyway
>>7458041264 character in a year, 20 on launch, 4v4, arcsys balancing schedule
>2XKO EoS'd>Tokon already 1k players>Invincible vs getting mass layoffs and ending support after season 1WTF IS HAPPENING TO FIGHTING GAMES?
>>745804126To be fair it's not a balance patch and I think The Champion getting two grabs in that way was obviously not intended, the animation was really off. I wouldn't have minded if they kept it in and fixed the animation, but I'm not surprised at its removal.
>>745808235That's just the tag sub genre
>>745808235nobody likes tag slop and dbzf was a fluke
>>745808235They got cocky and forgot that Capcom runs this joint
>>745808235Everyone wrongly assumed fighting games was the next "big thing" because Valve made a joke DOTA fighting game which caused Riot to panic and make 2XKO which caused Saudis to invest in SNK and the FGCBasically everyone is fucking stupid.
>>745808235Mahvel sold ~10m franchise total, tag genre is dogshit and never sell. DBFZ is fucking Dragon Ball so stop with the cope
I knew these tag games were gonne die quick, but not Concord quick. Worst sub-genre in existence.Total soCal and NYC death. I also partially blame France for making fighting game devs think we Europeans want anything to do with that AIDS subgenre. You niggas will consume any slop as long as its anime (DBFZ)
I'm having fun and that's all that matters. Niggers.
>>745808235real truke is that fighting games were always niche and not meant to have like 1 million concurrent players like csgo or dota 2 its like corpoations trying to force that shit because they used to be popular in 90s imagine if all the investors would try to make new starcraft or red alert just because they used to be popular 30 years ago and then going whaaat only 1k concurrent players??? what went wrong???
>>745808541nah, mahvel was beloved by all, great game for casuals, great game for spectators and utter kino for top players, modern devs just don't have that capcom magic to make it work
>>745808235Nothing idiot 1v1 games(not made by snk) will be fine, tokon had a fucked PC port because of Sony but will still do fine like the other arcsys games with fucked up PC releases since it already sold better than strive which was an absolute success, and tag fighters will continue being a genre where no one wants to play them unless marvel characters are involved as usual.
>>745808235what do you mean? these are all the highest numbers in online fightan history, sf5 was doing like 2k players a day. we are unironically in a golden age if you wanna hop online and find games
So, what's the next big fighting game? Virtua Fighter Crossroads is releasing next year.
>>745808715That's the next one. I'm more interested in the next 2D 1v1 game without tag shit. Injustice 3 maybe
>>745808235Invincible simply didn't sell well2XKO is a terrible game that no one liked and took 10 years to make so it's so deep in the negative they're never breaking evenTokon has a shit PC port, PS5 players are having a good timeFighting games will go on just fine
>>745798016I know theres ways to deal with assist spams but I still hope the system gets a change man. I had a lot of fun already with this game but In my personal view infinite assists with almost no coodown once you get three assembles plus the fact that you can always use defense mechanics even when you have no meter, is kinda lame. this coming from someone who plays SF6, the game with the most hated mechanic by /v faggots.
Tokon sold less than 3k copies in JP holy shit lol
>>745808943>retail copiesdon't leave that part out anon, it would come across disingenuous
>>745808363cope
>>745808916>plus the fact that you can always use defense mechanics even when you have no meterI agree with assist cooldown being too short but the game 100% needs thisNot only offense is good but you can get 3 assist calls for 1 bar of assemble, or even for free if you have a meaty setup
>>745808943Gonna be so honest people do not buy physical fighting games anymore or anywhere. It's like using retail sales for sf6, mk, Tekken or Strive to make them seem like flops.
>>745804341Take breaks and do wrist twirls.Make sure your wrists are straight when playing and aren't at a weird angle.Make sure your fingers are arched instead of flat, like you are typing or playing piano.Most tips you read online about better keyboard posture are generally also applicable to leverless.>Do you have it on your lap or on a desk like a keyboard?I play with it on my lap, but some people use their desk. Size could also be a factor. I recently switched from my old haute42 m13 to their c-at which is much larger and much more comfortable for me.
absolutely fucking raped genre.
total tagslop death
>>745809335>retailwho cares lol
>>745809359im sure there's 5million extra sales on digital
>>745809386when's the last time you bought a game retail
>>745808943looking at the media create threads it doesn't sound like folks there buy physical copies all that much
>>745809412yesterday
HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT HAZAMAS CHAINS REEEEEE
>>745809335come bro stop being a bot (you won’t)even in my turd world country I am able to find other hue monkeys to play with no matter the time, although of course the wait time is a bit longer than SF6 or Tekken 8 or MK games which are all insta find matches.
>>745808678nobody gave a fuck about mvc outside america
>>745809612yeah MvC is the American sportsball of fighting games
PC status?
>>745809196> you can get 3 assist calls for 1 bar of assemble, or even for free if you have a meaty setupwhat do you mean?
>>745809868eternally seething as they do with every new game release
>shiteating BR shilling tokonof course.
uh guys Summer is almost over, where is the UNI2 patch
>Champion is the shittiest character in Tokon>first patch fixes a bug and nerfs him so he is even worse
>>745809551Anyone? How the hell do I beat Hazama? I play Azrael
>>745809973enjoy your input lag
Can she save Avatar?
>>745799296It's /gbvsg/ lore, where most people assumed it wouldn't succeed but it has kept a constant niche ever since release. Then an anon called it "the cockroach of the fgc" and it stuck and anons just post the rainbow cockroach because even we are surprised it lasted this long organically.
>>745809917Assist calls only cost Assemble Gauge when your character is in hit/blockstunThis means if you're plus on block, you can call an assist for free, with the limitation that you can't call the generic assistSo a basic way to do this would be blockstring into assist>special + tag out>assist call (meterless)>mix>special>tag to the assist>do it again
>>745810001>shilling you faggots really fucking hate video games or just talking about them huh? lmaoamazin’ bro.heres the current games I have been playing, just to get you seething a bit more.cant wait for that DD2 expansion soon broooo! its going to be a blast for sure.
>>745801903>>745804908its mostly really intuitive, but honestly it's more if you are coming from arcade stick. if you are already comfortable with fighting games on pad i wouldn't worry about it. leverless is just so much nicer to travel and walk around events with (can fit in your damn pocket) and also buttons are just faster for a lot of things vs a lever.
>>745809973I see, but you can only start doing this once you get all three assembles right? either way about to try it out right now thx.
>>745810412>DD2>nioh3>tokon>SF6>mhwilds>fullbody not vanillaabsolute shiteating. this is why nobody considers BRs humans.
>>745810510meant for >>745810387
>>745809335Nigga it only has low sales because no one fucking uses a PS5 or PC in Japan, they all still heavily use arcades.
>>745810580lmao
>>745804341you are genuinely probably using the controller wrong, probably tensing up your hand/wrist too much while playing, it's the same as playing the piano, you have to make sure you aren't putting too much pressure while playing or you are gonna fuck up your hands.
>>745810523seethe fag! that new Onimusha is also on my list how about that?
>>745810613well it perfectly fits into the pattern of you eating up all dogshit disappointing sequels to formerly good series.
>>745810640>reeee stop playing video games and having funnah, dont think I will bro.
how many layers of irony are you guys even on?
come home white man. I know you secretly like it
>>745810832i still hate this game
>>745806934sf niggas love their beefy men
Anyone up for some Fightcade?
>>745810832Daisuke is a legit satanic man that sold his soul
>>745810832Eeeeh atleast it's 1v1.
>>745810114>>745809551bro all your normals literaly anti air on their ownyou can just dash as you see him swoocing towards you
>tokon patch introduced new stuttersGame is 200% dead on PC, start the funeral Here lies Tokon, it became a discord fighter in record time
>>745810832i mean trannies are classified as "white man" so youre not wrong
if they are not retarded the avatar devs better release ranked soon. Lots of disgruntled and aimless players looking for a game to attach to
>>745810832This game is what, 5 years old now? This the only modern fighter that still kicking for 5 years?
>>745810832Sorry bro I'm too busy play +R Jam.
>>745811138yep, still rocking, still supported and doing well>>745811152same, might learn baiken too
So, did the Tokon patch change anything or is it still inferior to the crack due to Sony + EAC?
>>745810774yeah you will consume the shit
>>745811113I mean its not like they dont want to.Its just unfinished and you cant just press a button to create it out of thin air.
>>745807340>street fighter>too magicalKek
>>745811113ranked will kill the game since people will obsess even more about a png, tierlists and start one and done
The problem of Avatar is that it doesn't have enough interesting characters for the future content support.
>>745808235>Tokon already 1k players1k on steam, the ps5 version is fineit's a shame because the actual game is good but sony and arcsys really fucked up with the pc version
>>745810601Notice how games were played on PS4, because the PS4 HAD GAMES TO PLAY. You know I'm right you fucking mouthbreather.
>>745811138DBFZ, KOF15, Samsho, Blazblue literally exist and are older and are BETTER than Soive, you stupid faggot.
>>745811357there are at least 8 characters planned
>>745811357I wouldn't call myself an Avatar fan, but I watched the show as a kid, and off the top of my head I can think of:>homeless loli they meet in Ba Sing Sei or how you spell it>the old woman who could blood bend>the bounty hunter on the mole that could paralyze you
>>745811113Avatar blew its load and died of a heart attack, it's not coming back. It appeals to no one.
>>745811412meds
>>745811197It added new stutters for the retail version lmao>>745811407PC is a bigger platform than console for fighters. Tokon dead on PC means the game's done.
>>745810832>secretlyI don't hide that I like the game
>>745811407the actual game is ass and people are already growing tired of it.
why do people come in these threads solely to talk about how dead every single game is when that is obviously not the case for anyone who actually plays any of them
>>745811492>KOFXVRetard I say 5 years not 4 years.>SamshoWhere are the new updates or contents?
ded game
>>745804930>sauce my nigga
>>745810832never playing a game that glorifies trannies to this degree
>>745811649It's not bad, it just tried to please everyone which results in pleasing no one.Autocombos help casuals pick up the game, sure, but they make actually learning the game intuitively impossible for those same players. All they learn is strategic mashing.Combos without hitstun decay sounds like a good idea to make combo execution easier, but the hurdle for most people is always going to be a desire to learn intuitively rather than watch a combo video online. It doesn't matter how easy the execution is, casuals aren't doing year long combos.To please the hardcore they also filled the game with absolute degenerate bullshit "because it's a tag fighter" that makes high level play a nightmare. Hey! You blocked a jab did you? Time to hold 8 mixups in a row asshole. Oh, you tried to assemble counter? Enjoy having no assists fuck bucket.
/gbvsg/ faggots fuck off to /vg/
>>745803884Now reverse the roles
Unironically if Avatar adds ranked the game will die.
>>745812161How does something that never lived die?
>>745812185faith, holy water and a stake
if you can hop online and find a game in under 2 minutes it isn't dead and won't be dead for a long time. i wish you faggots would do something other than look at steam charts
>>745812161retarded
It makes sense why 'jam is moving to deadlock even beyond more cynical takes like "it has a future to cast in while every fighting game that isn't SF6 is violently faceplanting"Looking at Deadlock's community reminds me of looking at the FGC from the outside when I was younger. The people playing it are younger, they're excited about the game, the game is difficult and has a lot of different aspects to dive into but it's also actively evolving.Fighting games have an aging playerbase, are struggling to iterate in a way that makes the games more fun, and they're trying to save themselves by getting easier and less interesting to play long-term. They also don't really have new IP, either whereas one of Deadlock's strongest traits is "is a new setting people seem to like"
>>745800289stop thinking this is a "tag game" problem. I used to be a hater too until I got into dbfz, which implements them in a very fun and engaging way. that's where most of the game's mechanical complexity comes from, but in a good way since otherwise the game is VERY simple.>can't stick to a team>ultra short combosunironically just pick your favorite characters and stick to them. the game is fairly balanced and the usual tier lists only matter at top level play, plus most characters play very similarly aside from some key normals and special moves. even if you're switching a lot, you'll still be learning how the game works.as for combos, just learn your bnbs and conversions. you honestly don't need much else, your focus should be on practicing general defense, neutral and mixing your opponent, that's what gets the combos going and without it your gazillion hours learning a bunch of super optimized combos mean literally nothing.
>>745812251>i wish you faggots would do something other than look at steam chartsthey can't, hopping online gives them anxiety
>>745812412don't people here constantly complain about how young sf6 pros are
https://youtu.be/xeLFgp96u1M?si=-j1ncHnI1sqfJa0UAPOLOGIZE
>>745812412nah he is just a slime trying to cash in.good thing that he will not make it there.
>>745812412I'M SICK OF THIS DEADLOCK BULLSHIT IT'S ALWAYS GETS RELATED TO FIGHTING GAMES NOW
>>745801903Yes you can play with keyboard first. That's how I learned.It's basically the same as leverless but slightly less comfortable and occasionally you'll hit the wrong key because they're so close together
>>745812475byeah but at the same time it doesn't really feel "grassroots" if that makes sense. Like the content creators and loudest voices in SF6's community aren't so much new, passionate players who are coming up with SF6 as they are the boomers who've been playing since sf4 or V if not earlier, and you don't get the vibe that a lot of them LOVE the game.
>>745812624so you need to form a parasocial relationship with a streamer to enjoy a genre?
>>745812475>Craime wins EAC>15 year old kid is literally richer than me>Fucking random ass game>Slime Fighter 6 everybody>Prodigy? Fuck off.>Too casualized>Lmao Mena got washed>Tokido wins CEO>GOAT>HE FUCKING WON>FIGHTING GAMES IS SAVED>Fighting games is truly something so great>JP SUPREMACY>Kakeru must be proud>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>Holy shit best year of CEO>Respect to Booce Lee's run but Tokido wins
>>745812562I just keep pressing W instead of spacebar, I'm assuming this is why there's the wasd boxes but it sounds like having it on your thumb is better in the long run despite how counterintuitive it (currently) is
>>745812745>Craime wins EWC*
>>745808235tag games and licensed slop. bring back the orginal ips.
>>745812793>keep pressing WYou'll get used to it eventually.
>>745812672multiplayer games are social games.
>>745812841fighting games have irl locals anon, you're supposed to go to them
Assists didn't save Mortal Kombat. It's time to make MK a 3D fighter again. Things will be different this time.
>game with actually footsies and neutral >good monetization where you can actually use the currency you earn to buy characters and costumes>nobody plays it because it's not street fighter
i'm 35 and i just started playing fighting games
>>745812889locals arent a reality for the absolute majority of people.
>>745812672It's more about community vibes. I think it'd be silly to say people don't miss the '08 era when people were super enthusiastic about new, highly technical games like SF4, MVC3, even Xrd were out and new talent was springing up alongside them. Looking at Deadlock reminds me of that whereas the modern day FGC just feels infused with this melancholy that the best times are over and never coming back. People aren't REALLY excited anymore and I do think that makes a difference when it comes to the genre's health
>>745812926hope you're not talking about 66l simulator there
>>745812889Locals don't exist outside of extremely black states in the US.
>>745810832covid boost or not. it's crazy how it just doesn't die. even when they keep shooting themselves in the foot by removing mechanics and adding guest characters.
>>745812956ok then find a group to play with? fighting games are insanely social and have a great online community idk what you're trying to prove here
>>745812956They are, they just come up with excuses for why they can't attend them.
>>745812975i went to my first local last month and everyone there loved the genre and was super enthusiastic to run long sets for me even outside of the tournament setting. you're basing your opinion on the community from twitter and youtube and 4chan man lmao
>>745813030both those things were good moves tho. Wild assault had to go
>>745812889I did go but I outsperged everyone there
>>745812926I didn't enjoy the og or rising
>>745813104i'm just sayin that the widespread community used to be more excited and passionate about the current games and it seems to genuinely be that way about deadlock. The only new game I've seen recently where I regularly see people gushing about it just on a raw gameplay front is Avatar, everything else is "it's fun, But"
>>745813030>removing mechanicsremoving wild assault was a great idea, even if I play characters that got kinda gimped by the removal
>trying to watch a diaphone vid>he does that 'huh HA' laugh
>>745813193you're once again mistaking twitter and 4chan for the "wider community". the vast majority of fighting game players exist in local groups and don't post online barely at all
why is diaphone so handsome and talented? Is not fair
>>745813145>>745813258way more mechanics got removed from 1.0 to 2.0 than wild assault.
>>745813326I mean, you can play long sets and have fun with modern fighting games but the "twitter FGC's" feelings are pretty aligned with most people I've gotten to speak to at length about fighting games, desu. a lot of "SF6 is pretty fun but it's so volatile," 2XKO sucks, Tekken sucks, invincible isn't worth playing, avatar's pretty good, ETC. A lot of playing older games too and these aren't all FGC boomers who can't abide new things.
>>745798016>2D fighting gamesgrow the fuck up, losers
>remember i saw a bunch of fgc heads try to say 2xko was good, was gonna be even better over time, all the weird defensive comments >EoS'd >now waiting for the cope vids I'm also glad tokon is dying too despite wasting my money on the pc version and liking it, this port should not be so shit and be outshined by a fucking crack
I never tried 2XKO because I thought the art style was absolutely repulsive. 0/10 gookshit.
>>745813031the online community thinks that current fighters suck ass and just put up with them half heartedly.like thats the point of it all.>>745813036nonsense. you dont live in reality.
tokon will rise from the ashes when it gets its first discount which shouldn't be too long considering everything and by then everything will have been fixed including taking webhead and girl out back and shooting them in the knees
>>745813635>the online community thinks that current fighters suck ass and just put up with them half heartedly.lmao NIGGA please. the vast majority of people who play these games like them, fighting games literally do higher numbers now than ever before. i'm begging you to actually find a fighting game community and talk there instead of taking twitter seethe as the end all
>>745813326this is cope when the environment was not this negative outwardly in the past.like yeah man I totally believe you that every single public facing place thinks the state of fighters are awful now but these secret pockets truly think that everything is great.
>>745813716this is some weird gaslighting.
>>745813756I feel like i'm being psyopped here, have none of you seriously ever played a fighting game irl with someone
I believe it when people say that current fighters suck ass because I have the exact same opinion.And yeah I actively contribute to the negativity. Shouldnt have raped my favorite genre.
>>745812926>adds in a new unga bunga mechanic instead of toning down the existing unga mechanicsugh
>>745813804last time I played SF6 with someone offline I decided to abort the session because it was unbearable.
>>745812926NOBODY PLAYS GRANBLUE BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING BRAINDEAD AND BORING AND LAME TO PLAY, MORE SO THAN EVEN GODDAMN SF INSERT NUMBER HERE. EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU SHITSLURPING RISINGFAGS MAKE THE SAME DAMN >wah people aren't playing my footsies game because it isn't sf!POSTS AND GET THE SAME DAMN RESPONSES. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW THE MONETIZATION IS, HOW MUCH COSTUMES IT HAS, OR HOW MUCH "NOOTRAL" A GAME HAS IF IT'S SO DAMN MINDNUMBING IT MAKES STRIVE LOOK LIKE MBAAC, XRD OR WHATEVER THE FUCK DESPITE HAVING A BUNCH OF STRIVE AND EX STRIVE SHITTERS PLAYING IT AND MAKES SF6 LOOK LIKE A PRE SF5 GAME.
>>745813719yes people think everything sucks ass now, people always yearn for the things they played when they were younger or appeal to their nostalgia. sf2 boomers hated sf3, sf3 boomers hated sf4, sf4 boomers hated sf5 this isn't new. the only reason avatar doesn't get the same negativity is its from an ip zoomies and zillennials loved as a child
Ouchie ouch
>>745813847Hey they did "nerf" BC
>>745813907this is cope.
>>745813974its the truth, as an 09er we dealt with a lot of shit from the oldhead 3s and alpha players at out locals lol
>09er making a retarded delusional postof course.
yes fighting game fans like avatar for vague nostalgic reasons, and not objective game design decisions that go against the mainstream ruination of the genre.especially since many of the players never even watched the show.
Raped dead genre
>>745813036My locals died outside of redbull
>>745813030>>745813415What significant mechanics aside from wild assault got removed that would be equal to shooting yourself in the foot and not patching a wound like removing wa was? Also the fuck do you mean guest characters how is that strive shooting itself in the foot when it attracted people and they didn't make said guest top 1 retarded like SF or Tekken did?
>>745810832I can just play that and other old fighters as usual.
>>745814059biggest larp in fighting game thread history award goes to you faggot
>>745803516it's just the licensing branch. i don't know why the fuck they created a whole new company for that. now everything will handled from within snk itself
>>745814251shut it, coper
>>745813415>>745814153If you wanna be pedantic, the mechanics removed in the 2.0 patch were Wild Assault, Reversal Super RC, Backdash BRC and Throw whiff PRCThe only two other ones removed prior to that were DP RC and Super PRCFor the most part, they removed shit that let you do stuff without caring about consequencesBackdash BRC gave you an unreactable overhead, and sometimes an extremely expensive evasive option like with Backdash BRC jD on Dizzy
>every tournament doing record signups>most active fgc in history across all gamesbuhhhhgenres dyingi can't leave my house to play with people i have anxiety uwu,,, uhh i mean FIGHTING GAMES SUCK AND NO ONE LIKES THE NOW
imagine trying to compare the impotent screeching of turd strike faggots in the middle of the SF4 hype wave compared to literally everybody shitting on SF6 right now.
>>745814382imagine not thinking you're just as impotent as they were
>>745810832>strivego dilate
>>745813030>adding guest characters.Guest characters don't kill games.
>>745810606>>745809276I see thank you. Yeah its just my left hand(input hand) my buttons hand is fine. And im finding out yeah its very more like piano than keyboard typing. Idk why KoF is like this with its linking but it seems like its a genuine rythem game that goes along with the inputs. Its not enough to hit Cr.LK three times In a timely manner, too fast, the next Cr.LK doesn't come out, too slow and it drops/guards. But its very annoying. Especially when it requires a jump HK or HP as a opener to link into a Cr.LK or whatever as the second punch/kick just will not come out in time before the guard is up/combodrops.Biggest advice that helped was someone who says to go on the rythem of a metronome. But even then some characters or links go on a completely different rythem. Dont suppose yall have any resources of advice that could help in that regard? Pretzels are np but again its that damn linking for openers that mess me up.
>>745814475I know Im not, because literally everybody is shitting on sf6.
>>745814305Yeah that's why I'm confused and asked him to elaborate. They literally did the opposite of shooting themselves in the foot with the shit they removed like dp rc. Also Lucy being the least egregious and least retard proof guest character of any of the most recent fighting games was nothing but a positive.
>>745814625
>>745814706>I have to vote SF6 first because its the current gamethanks for the input, tokido
>>745814758wait i thought no one liked the game though? unless everyone who likes it is a paid shill, but that would be an insane thing to think.... wouldn't it?
>>745813872Bodied that brownoid
>>745814854Tokido is literally on capcoms payroll.When Dogura dared to shit talk SF6 and SFL he got reprimanded by Capcom.You are pretty bad at shilling.
>>745814706>no one talks about 5oof
>>745814957oh i'm a paid shill now too? thats pretty crazy that everyone you disagree with is one lol its like you're being gangstalked by capcom employees
>>745815061no you are doing it for free, which is even sadder.
I cant believe that salaried capcom employees arent criticizing capcom product
>>745814957Yeah Tokido is a legend, but he's also Crapcom's strongest soldier.
Why did he fail to kill fighting games?
>>745815154CAPCOM EMPLOYEES ARE WATCHING YOU POST RIGHT NOW THEY'RE UNDER YOUR BED!!!! AHHH!!!!
>>745815212imagine sperging out this hard because you got called out for your retardation
>>745798016>nerf to championimagine nerfing the worst character in the game
Hello i am Mr. Mocpac... I am here to tell you to play sf6 now!
>>745815193I dont blame him for carving out a comfy safe wage in this incredibly shaky genre.Its just nonsensical to take his opinion as genuine.Though I do think it sucks a bit because I feel that SF6 couldve been improved by now if a few of the japanese pros spoke up a little bit.Instead we get this awful stagnation.
>>745814571don't lights chain in KoF?so i don't know how to explain it, but you just have to input it fast - consistently, rather than fast - mashing. like hitting the next light when the hitsplat from the previous is happening, rather than trying to link in the gaps.kinda just get used to it after watching and trying enough. then if you are also trying to special cancel its going to be a really small window. like cr.lk c.lk cr.lp x DP it can be super awkward, for sure.strong starters are way easier since KoF lets you cancel into command normals and those command normals special cancel. jump in > close heavy, command normal x special, is way easier.
>>745815517Ahhhh ok ok I did not know that about the heavys. Thank you!
>>745813689lol spider-man will be good for the whole game. Arcsys only cripples puppet characters
>been playing tokon all morning on the new patch>no matchmaking issues>no 8 frame rollback....bros?
>>745816476Performance?
>>745816591i was always having good performance so i can't be accurate on that front , but people are saying its improved a lot
>boot up GBVS>Ranked>No match in 30 minutesDead game huh?
>>745801983>She-Hulk, White Queen, Phyla, Psylocke, Jean Grey, Rogue, Jubilee, Scarlet WitchYes.>the restFuck no.>no Sue, Black Cat, Mystique, Enchantress, Spider-Woman, Hela, Nico Minoru, DaggerHoly shit taste.
>>745816476I only played it on console, but matchmaking seemed a lot quicker.
>>745811357nah bro, there are plenty, specially since the base roster is so basic and missing the interesting picks. if you're talking popularity and mass appeal, then sure, maybe, they need to play their cards right if they want this game to go on for more than three seasons, assuming it's even worth trying, and if it isn't it's probably not the characters' fault.
>>745812412He hasn't played Deadlock ever since they reworked ranked because he can't get carried by his full stack anymoreHe's afraid to solo queue
>>745810832Never buying a Guilty Gear ever again after this turd
i wish asbr had rollback bros
>>745816851>calls the best fightan of modern day turdshit taste, i bet you like blazpoo
>>745817017>the best fighting game of a pile of shit Great. And Blazblue was shit too.
NOOOO DON'T PROVOKE HIM
>>745817017Blazblue is trash weebslop
>>745817132Kill yourself tranny.
>>745811663You said still kicking. All of them receive support through active tournaments. Shove your goalpost up your ass bitch.
Why would you want a ranked mode in a niche genre? You're bifurcating the already small playerbase.
>>745817186As opposed to v's highly refined tastes of japanese products such as Nintendo, Sony, visual novels and other garbage IPs. Truly, a paragon of quality to take after!
hype beasts =/= fighting game players
>>745804930If only lesbians could make babies
>>745812926It's not even close to be a discord fighter and has survived the release of many other, much more hyped games.Relax. Rising is great, play it.
>>745817572because I dont care about epic infinite sets against someone I beat 30:0 where I learn nothing and have zero enjoyment.and if it cant support ranked then just let it die.
>>745812134
>>745818245Why would you continue to rematch players you're beating handily? Are you retarded? Do you need a developer to push buttons for you? If that's the case then I suggest you check your diaper, take your meds, and hydrate.
>>745818220It's dogshit and no matter how much you shill it here, it will remain dead forever.
>>745818301Holy fixed
>>745818245Have you tried learning to have fun?
>>745818351having to play against shitters until you randomly meet someone on your level which is never a given because of zero matchmaking is fucking retarded. kill yourself.>>745818470I know what fun is and thats not it.
>>745812908How is this not triggering the MAXIMUM DAMAGE cap?
>>745818407
>>745818702
>>745815005It was called job fighter for a reason. Nobody played 5 by choice.
>>745808943fgs are gaas. even sf6 and tekken 7 barely sold physical copies
>>745798016The dood said that 2xko only failed because of its control schemes and that free to play tag fighters are still the future
>>745818545>wahhh i hate playing the gameJust go back to jerking off to Juri's feet, retard.
>>745810832I'll defend Strive for plenty of the things others give it shit for, but 2.0 is them doubling down on everything I dislike about the game. I don't want characters to be more stripped back and homogenized, I want them to be more unique with their own gameplans. The Asuka re-work is atrocious, and even though I don't miss old Chaos, even his re-work is bad. Nobody wants to play characters where, when you play them, the sense is not 'This character seems like they were made with the intent of being fun and interesting', but instead 'This character seems like they were made with fear that they could potentially annoy the opponent too much'. +R has some characters I absolutely loathe, and in a perfect world those characters could be as fun as they presumably are for their players as well as being designed in such a way there's some fun for me to be had in fighting them. Strive 2.0 feels like it was made with the exact opposite ethos of whatever produced characters like that, and while Strive is its own game and doesn't need to do everything like prior entries, the characters were always such a big part of why I loved GG, so seeing them homogenize and sand them down even more than they had already been homogenized is a slap in the face.
>>745818971your cope posts make no sense. get a grip.
>>745818861It's 409 players on Steam right now.Damn son, it's like I'm really posting on /gbvsg/.
>>745818962While obviously not true, the control scheme was a big fuck up
>>745819014So Japan only? That doesn't make it any better.
>>745819014How's the DSG Doctor Doomposter schizo? Did he get new Doom pics and Doom 3D model from Tokon?
Has Strive been shit for anyone else?Most matches have been laggy as fuck even with good connection
>>745819184Region?
they should make another dynasty warriors fighting game, go back to its roots
>>745819241EU
>>745819063More like Japan x Europe.Japan was always more about consoles than Steam, and it's getting late into night in the land of the rising sun.Europe players are coming back from school or work, though they tend to be more active later, in a couple of hours.In any case, I can find players in the lobby, in casual, in ranked, despite going through a content drought. This is not what a dead game looks like.>>745819151Very quiet lately for mysterious reasons.
>>745819374>In any case, I can find players in the lobby, in casual, in ranked, despite going through a content drought. This is not what a dead game looks like.You can't.
>>745812251most steamchartfags and famitsufags don't even have money to buy the stuff they cheer . much less for the stuff they hate lolthey are poor teens and/or poor mentally ill adults larping as stockholders
>>745819271With current Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja? Hmmmm maybe.
>>745819410Why would anyone that lied before lie a second time?Will play ranked tonight in your honor. Still have to get gold master.
my character got buffed too much and i cant downplay anymore
i'll buy tokon when they let me play on linux, all my other fighting games work perfectly fine, no reason for tokon to just not work besides sony sabotage
>>745819571my main in sf6 was top tier and might have actually gotten buffed (blanka)
>>745819410Do you live in africa or something
>>745819272Oof. Well I had good smooth matches few hours ago but I'm a SEA turd worlder though.
>>745819641I live in the Middle East.
>>745798016I increasingly hate her sub-“Boris and Natasha” level Russian accent. It doesn’t really suit the character’s looks, and it’s so cliche as to be laughably stupid. She sounds like she’s about to go after “moose and squirrel”
i think i would have a meltdown if one of my characters got a nerf like this https://x.com/TMask97/status/2090526477624512802
>>745819508Me on the left
>>745812412Deadlock is on a slow, consistent downslide and is skinnerbox eomm mobaslop. So actually it makes sense that your retarded Sajam watching ass is mentioning it and loving it.
>>745813719nta.most posts in the entire internet now are made by mentally ill chronically online people and bots, anon. the sane people are not posting anymore and the functional autists are starting to leave in droves too now. you can see it by paying attention and noticing that 4chan, twitter and reddit have the same posters, talking the same way about the same things, and taking screenshots of the 2 other sites and creating a post with it in the third one that is being used at the moment. eternal summer actually became real but for the entire web
>>745812926>nobody plays it because it's not street fighteryeah, they just want sf4 again, or st in the oldheads' case, even though the games are still right therethat's why you never take people that complain about "muh footsies and muh neutral" seriously, they're gonna keep moving the goalpost for all eternity
>>745820551thats nonsense bordering on insanity.
>>745820415>consistent downslideevery time it releases a major content patch it breaks a new concurrent player record, anon-sama. why just say falsehoods?>but erm they don't stick aroundif you're a casual, why stick around and grind a game that doesn't give you a reason to grind it besides ranked ladder for its own sake? just get your fill and come back for the new update. You can grind once the game is out.
>>745820415i don't like the game but it's doing really well for a game that's not even out
Should I play SF6 with modern or classic? I don't think modern is as good as it is on Granblue.
>>745820660https://steamdb.info/app/1422450/charts/#maxYou absolute fibber. You silly little buffoon. The game has not hit its peak since release.
>>745820789even with this mistake do you mean to tell me that repeatedly breaching playercounts of 100k after people "lost interest" after the initial beta announcement doesn't bode well for the full release
>>745820785if you're going to play that shit game, have some dignity and play real controls.
>>745820624i gave you the real deal. if you want to be stuck in the retarded feedback loop made by larpers ragebaiting each other of current internet you do you
>>745814571>kof chain Lmao doing 4x light chain into special in kof13 was such nightmare attempt
>>745820551>most posts in the entire internet now are made by mentally ill chronically online people and bots, anon.how do we know you're not a bot as well?
>>745821398you need to take your meds.
>>745798016Magik sexo
>>745810832Nah I'm alright. Axl without 2-hit chain normals or even a 3P feels wrong.
I wish fighting games werent raped
>>745822019>without 2-hit chain normalsWhat even is the point of having those in Strive tho? IB doesn't reduce blockstun. The use I can see is countering Hammerfall, but they made it lose to lows in 2.0
>>745822598I think what I wanted to actually say was Axl without any air-combos from 5P > 6K > 2S felt wrong.
is that gran blue fantasy game actually playable? i really like the character designs,i feel like i would be graped online because i only ever played fightan as a kid. i used to play MK armageddon with my mom and my older brother
>>745822816Try the free version
>>745810832>Censored women>2 tranny characters>Absolutely horrendous lighting that hurts the eyesNo thank you.
>>745822678They eventually made 6K better so it combos midscreen into Winter Mantis, I think at some spacings you can even go for 5K>TK Bomber afterwards?He doesn't do full air juggles as much but his combo game now is pretty good
personally, I like Tokon
>>745823380No one asked 2XKO tranny
I want to play more tokon before the playerbase fizzles out but I've been playing it every night but if I don't then there'll be one left to play with but I don't want to get burnt out but I need to get good before there is nothing to get good against
>>745800904Magik is for black women and their magic futa cocks
>>745823380FUCKING TRAITOR, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HATE IT SO WE CAN GET MAHVEL 4
>>745823780>so that we can get another tag slop shitNo thanks
and here comes the videos, 2xko at least managed one thing, be easy video fodder
>>745804096Many such cases
>>745818976I stopped caring seeing 4 consecutive dlc release of the same cookie cutter design and gameplay.
>>745823780Why would you want a mvc4 from Capcom after mvci? I know marvel aren't as controlling and anti xmen as they were before as seen with them letting arcsys pick whoever the fuck with tokon but still. Sure as shit wouldn't look as good as tokon or mvc3 visually.
2XKO is the Concord of the fighting game industry.
>>7458239592XKO being dead literally erupts the whole FGC social media everywhere and it devolves into fighting games are dying and were circling back to fighting games as a product courtesy of the article 6 months ago.
>>745822816Very playable indeed and alive.Yeah, there is a free-to-play version. Four characters that you can play for free (right now, it's Gran plus three draph tits). You can play multiplayer as well.Game is very beginner-friendly. Simple controls, short movelists, universal mechanics. Also pretty easy to jump from one character to another.Game is also soul-incarnate. Give it a try.
>>745824369Stop samefagging.
Tokon wouldn’t have flopped if it was Marvel vs. Blazblue.
>>745799490Denuvo is nothing compared to how raped it is
>>745824130Let 8ing go nuts on the character design.
>>745824303yes, because the FGC refuses to accept that fighting games just are niche and only really the big names like Street Fighter will sell millions
>>745824428Fuck you it's much better if it's Guilty Gear vs Blazblue.
>>745824130MVCI was more fun to play than Tokon
>>745824428Screw thatGive me Arcsys vs Capcom so I can play Ryu and do TK air Tatsu FRC
>>745824428personally i wanted marvel vs ultra fight DA kyanta
>>745824597based & bokopilled
>>745824369how is it in europe? is ranked dead and its all lobby play?
Stop making tag games.You are not MvC2.Make a 1v1 game.
>>745824860what was so good about mvc2 that just cant be replicated? i genuinely have no idea cause i dont play these games
>>745824693More lobby than ranked/casual.If you play ranked in the lower ranks, then you'll have trouble finding players of your level. The matchmaking will probably put you against someone of a higher rank (you don't lose points when you lose against them, it still sucks).It's a general problem. Game is out for a while and it's not difficult to rank up. So everyone naturally floats up to Masters.New patch may lead to more new players and more people in ranked.
>>745824130she's memeing, no one wants mahvel 4
You know what we need?Tekken vs. DC
>>745824936It was popular in arcades which weren't dead at the time. Balance wise it still sucks. People have less tolerance for shit.
>>745824936Mvc2 is a literal mugen funded by capcom. You can literally lame out scrubs using obscure marvel characters.
Asuka 120% vs Rival Schools
Nobody cares about Yasmine at all. They should have released Makoto instead.
>>745824936it released when uncs were teenagers and now they're old and jaded
>>745824936I didn't say it was good, it wasn't popular due to its gameplay quality.Tag fighters have never been "good."
As a former League fan, I'm baffled that fucking Samira is the final character they are adding. Fucking Samira. Before Ezreal, Lee Sin, Jax, Yi, Annie & Tibbers, Katarina, and loads of others classic characters tells there was no hope for this game.
>>745825546Sorry, SF6's lead devs want to replace all the old characters now that they have successfully cultivated a new audience of Japanese zoomers. Yasmine is their attempt at erasing Makoto, Ibuki and Sakura in one go.
>>7458244758ing literally is not worth a damn anymore as seen with the retarded shit they pulled with dnf duel being being slower and less worthwhile than pvp in the damn mmo the game is based off of, and then that piece of shit nen impact.
>>745824936MvC2 is not good at all outside of its presentation
>>745825734Anybody could look at the roster and tell you it's all wrong, and most did
50h in, probably gonna drop it soon.It's somewhat fun but I'm getting really bored of the 1 hour combo, 1 hour blockstring and 2 touch round. Also spam assist and the fact that you can make a shit ton of unsafe shit safe with it. It's my first tag game and it's really a monkey degenerate genre.
>>745798016>Marvel's path to succes was making an anime girl their main heroineI both hate and love this timeline.
>>745826172Comics are dead, gotta get with the times
>>745825734Everything wrong with 2xko is surprisingly NOT riot's fault but the retarded ass devs mostly. The most whiny, faggot, "representation is important" ass, literal tranny included, anime fighter and mvc players picking who they THINK would be neat "functions" instead of actually cool characters. You can tell by them picking illaoi, fucking teemo and senna of all people.
>>745819508People hate it but this is the ideal relationship dynamic.
>>745826172Magik is both not the main heroine in tokon and is objectively less of a main heroine in tokon than storm, danger, peni and even kamala.
>>745804930Lesbians are sexy, but MFF threesomes are superior
Is there ANY tag figther that's actually good??DBFZ? Skullgirls? Don't say MVC2 because I tried it and it straight up feels jank no thanks.
>>745826172Tokon isn't a success though, and Magik is popular because of Rivals
>>745826481No
>>745826481Skullgirls yeah
>>745826481Kof11
So did the genre filter MOBA fags? Will they stick around with their precious LoL fighting game or will they fuck off back to their fraud esport babby genre?
>>745824936It was so good it killed the franchise till Marvel changed leadership and gave crapcom another chance.
>>745826889The game is shit, nobody is sticking around either way.
>>745826490Magik is popular because she is a fucking dommy mommy monstergirl in the franchise that is Marvel.
>>745826413Preach. Getting cowgirld while eating the other out is quite literally the most pleasurable experience possible
>>745826481Tekken Tag 2
What a disaster of a week
>>745825840Makoto and Ibuki replaced Sakura for over 10 years.
I don't actually play Mortal Kombat, but I like reminding everyone that it exists.
>>745827189>these games should've just been 1v1!>CotW causes 125mil SNK losshard to take these people seriously
>>745827003Could be worse. Could be PenniPopular only cause DUDE JAPANESE GIRL & cause of a overrated and visually shit movie while at the same time being a literal knock off of Hiro from big hero 6.>spiderman but no spiderpowersWill never not be the stupidest shit
>>745825840I don't even know what a grown ass Sakura will look like, her entire character and personality is spunky schoolgirl, what's that like when you're 28?
>>745827680same thing but a streamer
>>745827775She could be streamer like Rashid, then they could've had Yasmine be a fan of her instead of Manon of all characters
>>745826481Naruto GNT4.
>>745826889they never cared to begin with. not when it was rumored, officially announced, or when it was released.
I'm beginning to think no one, not fans nor influencers nor developers nor publishers, actually know what makes a fighting game successful.
>>745826481DBFZ is the best modern tag fighter and it's a 7/10 at best
Did Riot force the dev teams to pivot from a cooldown based 1v1 fighter to a tag kuso game with 100 mechanics?Did Riot force them into committing to that stupid ass name?Did Riot force the devs to not have any mechanics that are a direct transfer of League gameplay (no character roles, no item builds, no cooldowns, no really unique abilities/ultimates, etc)?Did Riot force the dev team to miss various deadlines to where they basically had to punt the game out into early access, miss console at launch, and only had 10 characters ready?Did Riot force them to hire all their retarded FGC friends as designers and playtesters instead of actual qualified people who knew what they were doing?Did Riot force them into being retarded with post-launch patching with the fanbase they already had? Overpatching the game to the point where players had to basically relearn entire BNB routes and characters and system mechanics were changing bi-weekly at points?
>>745828085That goes for most genres.
F2P IS THE FUTURE OF FIGHTING GAMES, GUYS!Can't they see that everyone would play fighting games if only they were F2P like shooters and MOBA?
>>745826481BBTAG unironically
>>745827189>commentisparati
>>745828591>cooldown based 1v1 fighterI know very little of fighting games. Was this not done by anyone else?
>>745828965Granblue
>>745824936What makes MvC2 impossible to replicate is twofold.First is that its a shitshow with zero regard for balance or cohesiveness. Nobody would be willing to make a game where 95% of the roster is literally useless and most characters feel like they dont belong into the same game (because they were recycled from other games).The other is that modern fighting game design is way too dumbed down to allow for a game like this.MvC2 has insane movement and speed. Its also a game where converting isnt braindead. Despite being known for its infinites many rounds were just lame movement/poke matches where players didnt instantly blow up.MvC3 already tightened the gap between characters which is a good thing but the characters were also capped at a lower skill ceiling. And game design wise that game was already way easier with everything converting to the point that literal children could beat established players.This has only gotten worse now with further dumbed down systems like active tag in modern tag slop games that make the neutral way shittier.
>>745828965"Granblue" between quotation marks because I wish it was a relevant mechanic
>>745827003how is Magik a dominatrix? She's a retard swinging a sword
>>745828965I think that was the gimmick behind Rising Thunder that got them the job in the first place
We will now enter a golden era of fightan.
>>745820415>Deadlock is on a slow, consistent downslidethe game is no where near done yet, it's in a pseudo closed alpha state. the fact it's doing so well anyways is genuinely impressive. idk how you can look at that game and say it's failing
>>745808235They’re all garbage now? SF6 only lasts because casuals love skipping neutral and autocombos.
>>745829351Golden era because it's forcing all of us to quit fighting games. Based?
>>745829351Is there a single anime game that's alive right now besides BBCF?
>>745829428There's Strive but saying it is like asking trouble
>First time fighting a competent Makoto after 800 matches.Not their main, but its nice to see still.
>>745829407Anime tourists will not be missed.
>>745829351I'm desperately hoping DOA7 and VF6 will lead us to a new 3D fighting golden age
>>745828965Granblue did it lightly but it was basically only to balance out the simple inputs and combo routes for the most part. An actual League fighter had potential to actually do so much more with it. Levelling up to power up certain moves, allocating stats/builds in between rounds to change numericals values for different playstyles, buying items to change properties and rates, etc. Of course the retarded anime and Marvel players on the dev team ditched all of the potential of trying to experiment and make it like an actual LEAGUE OF LEGENDS fighter and just jammed in stolen mechanics from their favorite games instead.
>>745829428strive
>>745829506>>745829614you can't even IAD in strive
>>745829428Strive has been the most alive anime fighter since it released and will likely be the most alive anime fighter and 4th most alive fighting game forever until another GG or BB game comes out.
INCOMIIIING
>>745829792Guilty Gear peaked with strive. They can't make a better looking game
>>745829881I'd say GBVS and DNF Duel look better than Strive but maybe that's just me hating the lighting in Strive.
>>745829516Not looking good after DOA6LR and VF5Revo.
>>745828591>Did Riot force the dev teams to pivot from a cooldown based 1v1 fighter to a tag kuso game with 100 mechanics?we know for a fact that this is a yes actually>Did Riot force them to hire all their retarded FGC friends as designers and playtesters instead of actual qualified people who knew what they were doing?dunno on the designers part but the FGC cabal was not part of the playtesters at all. It was a revolving door of non-FG players who got punted out whenever they got too familiar with the game because they had to make sure the game was playing well with brand new players, which made playtesting very inefficient and expensive
>>745829516>VF6the saudis will fuck it up by adding ronaldo and dj garnacho like in garou
>>745829789You can>>745829881I like how strive gave most of the girls dick sucking lips, bigger asses and wider hips to such a degree that even the Japanese always make sure to always include them in art.
>>745829589Well what the shit? Did they hire some hardcore fightan players that play only one game for 18 hours a day as core developers? The fuck did they think would happen if they release a clone of other games?
>>745830016>we know for a fact that this is a yes actuallyno we know that its literally the opposite.cl0ckwork joined the dev team and spread his retarded idea.>the FGC cabal was not part of the playtesters at all????????????????????????????????????????????you are literally just making shit up.
>>745830125>he didn't read the post-mortem
>>745829789An airdash is an airdash just slower.
>>745829881>striveThe one that's censored to hell and back and has an emasculated Sol? That's the peak?
>>745829924Nta but that's strange because xx and strive are the best looking arcsys games to me and I'd probably like Xrd more if it was less piss colored/lighted like pic related.
>>745824493No the FTG refuses to accept that their core values guidelines plus near gacha levels of monetization makes fighting games be seen as the worst waste of time and money in the market.
>>745830278I don't play fighting games for the story
>>745830125A former dev confirmed both things, clockwork was only brought in after the decision was madeThe shitty way they handled playtesters is also why the game was so buggy all the time
https://x.com/crofts/status/2090839683961905262>TOKON RUNS AT 60 THE GAME IS SAVED>Video has multiple obvious lag spikes in itDon't these retards realize yet that the inconsistent frame timing and the spikes are the ACTUAL fucking problem? The thing that is actually causing the rollback spikes online? That's solely caused by the CPU hogging the game does because of all the DRM and anti-cheat this shit has.And no, you can't just look at the Steam overlay saying 60 when you look at it and see it as everything is fine because it doesn't update or give you the information you need to actually see those spikes. Those microstutters are what makes the game unplayable. Fighting games need an absolute stable rock solid 60FPS for any input heavy moments or any drops cause it to feel like shit online due to netcode behavior.
>>745830634Shills are trying to divert away from the fact that your opponent's ability to run the game matters to you because rollback will smooth things out for them but stutter for you.
>>745830634thats a lot of words when you could have just said the frametime line on the top left was still jaggedjmcrofts has never been the smartest
>>745830634Can't remove the DRMs when arcsys is being held at gunpoint by Snoy until the game EOS'd
>>745829967Maybe they'll learn from these failures, VF5Revo had some nice updates I thought, kinda
Avatar pressure seems a lot less scary when you actually aren't scared to use flow reversal to reset to neutral annnnnd Azula hit me outta it. Feels like it wasn't that long ago that Azula pressure didn't feel this oppressive.
>>745830569sounds like nonsense to me.obnoxious fgc faggots were playtesters at all points which is why the competitive integrity was being questioned because people with dozens of hours got to participate in tournaments.cl0ckwork lying about it also makes no sense.post source and it better be a good one.
>>745818301Always makes me laugh that people get mad about this.
>>745830360I don't know what it is but something about some Strive stages reminds me of unreal engine washed out bloom.
>>745830492The gameplay was also garbageLiterally GG but for casual timmys
>>745826481skullgirls is one of the best fighting games ever made if you actually take the time to learn it
>>745830884it's almost like devs have to lie to cover for executive meddling all the timehttps://pattheflip.medium.com/postmortem-the-godkings-post-apocalyptic-death-game-e92f9637f960
>>745831016>pattheflipthis is a genuine nutjob.
>>745830634How do these absolute retards have any level of influence/followers?
>>745830929It depends on the stage, "Seventh Heaven District" and "12-Dimensional Flux Observatory" are super washed out and white, and they add some kind of color correction. I think Lars Canyon also has terrible visibility.Some are just gorgeous, I love "In the name of peace", and it reads super well
>>745829924DNF duel looks so fucking goodpretty much their best looking game, solely because it just went in with the color instead of just washing everything out, as they weren't the ones who were doing the core visual design.They have the technical skills, but holy shit do they do a shit job with some of their visual design.
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>>745829589That sounds like absolute ass. That MOBA micromanaging shit during a match would not mix well at all with fightan.
>>745830360>>745829924Strive is better on a technical level, but I like the overall look of Xrd, DBFZ, DNF better. I really hate how they started going in, from Rev2 onward, on constantly showing off all the fancy camera angle changes/zoom-ins/lightning changes outside of the rare instant kills/intros instead of trying to mimick a traditional sprite fighter by keeping the camera angle static (for the most part).
>>745828591Is this nigga really arguing for publisher/executive meddling in vidya?
>>745808235>WTF IS HAPPENING TO FIGHTING GAMES?Exactly what was meant to happen. The genre has no mass appeal and the skill required to not suck is too high for most people.It's a genre that should have stayed in the arcade or couch vs era and never attempted the esports and online ladder shit.
>>745829318https://youtu.be/sBxp3I9vKlUNever forget
>>745827680Sakura isn't actually spunky and during SFV it became very apparent that most players didn't actually know what she was like at all
idom_ny is grinding Strive matches while chatting longevity: two years left in the game, then maybe Persona 6 or a new Gear. Disney fighter roast still going.
Wake me up when a modern fighting game has multiple characters to unlock as well as costumes and aren't regulated to DLC.
