What if Nintendo hasn't shown any gameplay of this OoT because it's just a 1:1 upscale of the N64/3DS versions, and they're trying to sell it on the name hype alone?It'd be sad that the past decade of new 3D Zelda games was just Breath of the Wild. TotK was a mistake.
They're going to have to show at least some gameplay before the launch, and if it really is just another texture remake I think very few people are going to be interested. From what I've seen the general attitude is that if it's not a ground-up reimagining there's really no point. Which of course, is still likely to be shit in its own way, but we already have the original, the 3DS version, and the Ship of Harkinian having HD texture mods as it is. There's basically no point in buying this unless it's genuinely something new using OOT as a skeleton.
it might release in December as a last minute Christmas gift, it's going up against gta 6
>>745818456>What if Nintendo hasn't shown any gameplay of this OoT because it's just a 1:1 upscale of the N64/3DS versions, and they're trying to sell it on the name hype alone?I thought that was the idea.
Skyward Sword, BotW and TotK all had development cycles of 5-6 years. If it was a full re-imagining with radically different gameplay, it would not be releasing this year. It's probably another Tantalus remake while the main Zelda team work on a brand new game.
Nintendo is hiding everything to build hype. That is always how it works for their big games. We knew nothing about Breath of the Wild except what was within the Great Plateau until the game came out. They'll blow their load sometime in late September or October before GTA6 comes out.
>>745818456>game is out in three months>no direct>no trailer>no official pagebro it's 100% just gonna be 1:1 game with new graphics, farmed out to some westoid studio like Star Fox. It's over
Isn't it safe to assume it's getting the same treatment as the Starfox 64 port?
>>745821442We had gameplay this close to release, anon. That's how we knew about the axed WII U gamepad features.
>>745823345the difference being that SF64 is still a good rail shooter. action-adventures and Zelda in particular have moved past '98 design and geography, it's gonna feel incongruous like MGS Delta
>>745823471You're not excited for this but graphix?
>>745818456>don't want it to just be a 1:1 remake of the N64/3DS version>don't want it to be some massively reimagined bastardization either>but developers and fans both only comprehend things in extremes so these two are the only likely options
>>745825226I replayed the game ~2 weeks ago and it's still fantasticdoing the same thing but shinier is worthless to me yeah
>>745825334that's the dilemma of this remake isn't it, 1:1 sucks, full reimagination kinda sucks too, it all seems ill-conceived
>>745818456It is obviously just another Star Fox abomination.
>>745825592An anon in a thread yesterday found a good way for me to sum up what I'd want from an OoT remake - basically the SM64DS treatment in terms of adding more content and slightly mixing up original content without undoing the spirit of it.
>>745826205I think I'd ideally prefer a ground-up reimagining of the game, but since this is most likely not the case, yeah, give me a SM64DS situation with visuals akin to that GC tech demo from back in the day
The thing I love the most about the OOT remake is that Nintendo literally can't do anything without making people complain. If they make it too much like the original, people complain, if they change too much, people complain, Nintendo literally cannot win this one. Double binds make me so horny, you know. Stabbing someone with Morton's fork is extremely satisfying.
>>745825226I played the 3DS version already.
>>745818456>it's just a 1:1 upscaleIf you're expecting anything other than this you're extremely retarded.
>>745825334Why not have it be different? Resident Evil had a good balance. The same puzzles won't hit the same when 3D target locking isn't as revolutionary.
>>745826314>with visuals akin to that GC tech demo from back in the daythe thing is, even the tiny snippet we got suggests that they moved away from that look / OoT original concept art toward """realism""". That's why I think they farmed it out to a western studio like Star Fox. It sucks man
>>745823471>action-adventures and Zelda in particular have moved past '98 design and geographyYAnd we finally have a chance to correct that mistake.
>>745818456The real reason is they want to get Fire Emblem out before showing more of zelda. Thats how Nintendo works with their first party games.
>>745818456They'll need to change Hyrule Field at the very least. No way they they'll just keep an empty field where you have to roll to the other side.
>$80 remake>star fox remake abomination graphics>modern zelda BOTW ui>quest menu for checklist checking subhumans>atrocious union tier voice acting >areas are still segmented like mgs 4 delta>content is 85% the same, 15% is cut because it doesn't fit modern graphics and UE5 look>any insensitive, sexualization and "outdated" jokes are removed or changed entirely>music is remixed and rerecorded to sound generic and more inline with botwyou know this is what's going to happen lmao, there's no way they're releasing a remake of ott this year without being like this, if it's coming out in 2 years i can see it being a high effort remake, but this year? nah lmao
It's going to be a 3ds upscaling with some cheap korok seeds around.
>>745826630If they're gonna remake a good game then it needs to be on point. Save the heavy creativity for a new game or a remake of a game widely agreed to be deeply flawed.
>>745818456If it's not the main zelda dev team handling it, then it's cooked beyond belief, anyone know, also the engine looks like UE5
>>745826912>quest menu for checklist checking subhumansthis will happen but who the fuck cares>awful voice actingwill happen and will be awful if they don't have a toggle for old va/have MS handle voice acting>>music is remixed and rerecorded to sound generic and more inline with botwwon't happen, nintendo remakes usually make tracks more dramatic if anything, and the ost in the trailer already sounds more haunting
Wonder if they'll fix the dogshit camera and Z-targetting.
>>745826654By making sure it doesn't move past '17 open world design instead, I presume?
>>745827056Why does it have to be on point? For the "ah, they got it right... (le nostalgia gasm)". If they're doing a remake, I want something new, not the same block pushing puzzles but in stunning 4K. Capcom had the sense for that.
>>745818456It its not getting a Final Fantasy VII graphics+3 episodes treatment with alot of sidecontent, Im not interested.
>>745827193>oops! it was contempt for the original all along!
>>745827193And I'm not sayinf you should bastardize like SOME remakes do. You can keep the great hits the same and keep the spirit of the og while reimagining(ie keeping that excellent balance of linearity and open adventure).
>>745827346That's the thing, I've seen fanboys scream online that IT'S MADE FOR A NEW GENERATION THAT DOESN'T KNOW THE GAME when the criticism of doing it 1:1 is brought up, butlike even if you only know BotW (SS,WW,OoT are all available on Switch), dungeons and puzzles from 1998 are not gonna wow you man, who would that be for except nostalgiaplebs
>>745827330It's not contempt. It's using new technology to do some things that were intended back then that they couldn't do until now. It's always the far end of the stick with you people.
>>745827508>new technology means no more heckin icky blocks!!!!you uhhhhyou didn't play BotW or TotK shrines, did you
>>745828741Man, I don't remember having to SPECIFICALLY push blocks. I just used the magnet rune to move blocks. In a game that didn't have all that many blocks to begin with. Compared to OOT. Also the practice is not lost on me when you faggots keep on going about BOTW/TOTK as a "but what about" goal post, when there are dozens of other Zelda's that share more comparable points in design. I know they're the most recent, but come the fuck on, broaden your mind.
>>745818456>it's just a 1:1 upscale of the N64/3DS versionsGood I really hope it's that. Kill all final fantatroon demakes apologists.
>>745829019The Spirit Temple in TotK alone is literally 4 multi-phase block puzzles.
>>745818456>1:1>he doesn't know the remake is a 6:7 remake
>>745818456This is my belief too. Showing a 1:1 remake would kill the hype.
Sooo, Direct after FE is out?
>>745829279>one temple>compared to most puzzles in general in OOT being push block onto switchAnd I'm not gonna say that that one temple is good either. I'm saying they have a chance to branch beyond that shit.
>>745827330BotW/TotKfags are widely known to hate the previous Zelda games.
>>745829573not true but ok
>>745826205Sm64 ds is a terrible game
>>745829680Only because of its controls, and that came from the extreme concessions they had to make for the DS' lack of an analog stick. There's no such input shortcoming on the Switch 2.
>>745829573bro where's your tribal tattoo at, i can sense it.
>>745829482They always have a big Direct in September.We'll see all the Zelda stuff there.
>>745829531One Temple that is entirely made up of block moving/babysitting (and is far more tedious than any block puzzle in OoT could ever hope to be). But the Lightning Temple also has quite a lot of block puzzles.>>745829953>they always have a big Direct in February or March
>>745829870it's-a him???
>>745829870this is the most early-2010s performative complaint ever
>>745830093Never did I say OOT block puzzles were tedious, just that they're a lot more simple/unimpressive today compared to back then. I'd do them,but it's just a "ok, done, now where's the actual interesting shit." At least the physics shit in BOTW/TOTk is something, despite the latter being reheated/underbaked nachos.Just do something new with 'em.
>>745830093https://www.nintendo.com/us/nintendo-direct/9-12-2025/?srsltid=AfmBOorwCCWLXdxbFoYJiBFmHtxsy-7z5Ge23BHueyY3lTqowgZAkPwY>Sept 2025 Mario Anniversary Sept 2026 will be Zelda
>>745825226>linear corridor with no platforming, no puzzles, and no gameplay to speak of that isn't just walking forward and talking to one NPC and one environmental interaction No.
>>745830285im just matching your artillery
>>745829953>>745830396Also to be honest the idea of them waiting all the way until October to reveal the first real gameplay of a game that has to come out just two months later at the latest is kind of silly. We're likely less than a month out from getting something, at which point /v/ is probably going to implode regardless as to whether or not it looks good or bad.
>>745827330>>745829573Nta but the last original Zelda game was BOTW which is nearing 10 years old. If I cant get a fully original game I'd at least prefer my remake to be different from the original because getting 2 3D Zelda games that are just rehashes back to back sucks
>>745831046Echoes of Wisdom was 2024.
>>745831495and was an LA Remake asset flip and LttP world rehash
>>745831542Confirmed for never playing it.
>>745831495>3D
>>745818456>Nintendo isn't showing me gameplay!And neither is Rockstar, big whoop.
That is the fear, yes, but it isn't the only exclamation.It could be the case, but it could also be that the gameplay/design is completely different, and given the autism of OOT purists is therefore just as controversial particularly if they did something bold to change it.Either way, Zelda fans are autists and will ree at whatever they do, and in the age of youtubers literally hating everything to market on that they're probably just best keeping it quiet for as long as possible.
If it's a 1:1 remake then showing nothing but a teaser with redesigned characters and environments a brand new way of framing the story was retarded. Everything about the trailer implied that it's a complete reimagining.
>>745826912>$60 remake>Stylized graphics akin to Twilight Princess>first realistic looking Zelda game since TP>Modern ui that flows and doesn't interrupt gameplay>radial item selection for a couple face buttons>Quest log to keep track of all the content>there's dozens and dozens of new side quests>Everyone is voice acted for particular scenes>not all of the new characters are voiced in game>The amount of detail in the level design requires loading between areas>the game will feel fresh and not an identical 1:1 with the original>Game retains anything pertinent to the original game>this results in an upgraded E10 rating>Orchestrated music*
>>745827493my favorite is seeing people say that Oot would stump modern gamers lol
>>745831046>>745831542>BotW was the last mainline Zelda to have a wholly original world>every other game since then has been a remaster, remake, or world rehashIt was a bit cute when ALBW reused LttP's world (if nothing else it wasn't a full console-priced game), but this shit's getting really old now.
>>745823229Ragebait.Nintendo won.
>>745832589I've heard a lot of people wanting them to asset flip Oot into a MM remake already, it's not getting old at all it would seem.
is this autistic realistic mario shit the pauline faggot's new gimmick or what
>>745832787...Nope. Definitely getting old.
>>745818456why anyone would expect anything good from nintendo after horrid dogshit like star fox and prime 4 is beyond me
>>745832497OoT is simply too complex for modern gamers though. At mean look at this, how was ANYONE supposed to figure this out without a guide?
>>745833313you literally have to be sat down and told how heart containers work as a mandatory part of your game.
>>745826912>>atrocious union tier voice actingIf you play Japanese games with an Eng dub you should kill yourself.
focus, lwe've got hostiles
>>745833313>Focus, Lgay
>>745833404yeah? that doesn't really make that webm any better now does it
>>745833404I know. OoT literally has Navi stop you in your tracks and tell you how to open doors when you're progressing the Deku Tree. OoT is simply too complex for modern gamers bro.
>>745833441lol get a fat load of this weeb
>>745833313Zelda was always the poster child of retarded handholdy games with constantly yapping tutorial companions, only shills and N64-kid normalfaggots try to pretend otherwise.
>>745832363You’re insane if you think Kiketendo would release this at $60.
>the questmarker game fans are lecturing about handholdy game design!
>>745818456The gameplay is 1:1 the n64 version. the trailer stated as much. they're not hiding it. the sad part is 99% of switch owners are going to buy this game for the fourth time.
>>745833742OoT has markers constantly telling you where to go next, what are you yapping about?
>>745832497I could see people getting stumped by Majora's Mask but Ocarina of Time was never a difficult or puzzling game, I beat it when I was 8 years old.
>>745833865lollmao even
>>745833865No it does not you fucking retard. Post examples then
>>745833972>LE FOREST TEMPLE ARROW>THAT IS LE WHOLE GAME>ME AM SMARTthere I just did his post for you before he can respond
>>745833865Out of things that never happened, this is the most never happened thing ever.
>>745834027isn't that a late game temple, eeyikes... and if what this anon says is true >>745833582double yikes ...
>>745833972>>745834032>>745833965Why would you even shill for a game you haven't even played and only seem to have a vague notion of? Tendies are so demented.
>>745834032Not him but yes it does? Every Zelda since LttP gives you markers on where to go.
>>745834108>4th dungeon out of 11Nope.
>>745834160>>745834216>doesn't know what those dots are>confidently declaring them as quest markers (when they're just generalized locational pins on a map and not specific "go to this exact coordinate" markers nor come with "talk to/go do [x]" messages)Please. I'm begging anons who actually played these games. Don't tell this/these anon(s) what these dots are.
>>745834407>oesn't know what those dotsHoly fuck you really are stupid.
>>745834407Let me explain it more clearly to you since you seem to have a hard time understanding this game: The OoT map has a blinking point which marks the next step of whatever quest you are currently engaged in.
>>745834160>>745834216larp final boss
>>745834407the dots blink to indicate what area your next goal is in faggotyeah it's not a fucking 1:1 compass waypoint but it's still a marker leading you
>>745818456>What if this OoT is just a 1:1 upscale of the N64/3DS versionsit blows me away that tendies actually think its going to be a different game. it will be the same OoT with assets made for their current gen console and with cringey voice acting like the other zelda games. what else would it be?
>>745834251>4th dungeon out of 11Now let's look at the last dungeon. Remember, this is the game that would be simply too complex for modern gamers to figure out as OoTfags love to claim.
>>745833685Why not? this is a smaller release, ...or is it, anon?
>>745834651Only part I legitimately got stuck in OoT were the climbing vines at the beginning of the forest temple, which is purely a visibility issue rather than an intentional puzzle. Game is otherwise just plain braindead which is why it's popular to begin with, normalfaggots hate thinking.
>>745834651Nintendo themselves said that the game was too hard and they needed to dumb down the series going forward and thats how we got WW and TP. MM was the last "hard" zelda which was done before they could apply their new game philosophy of no gamer left behind.In fact you could probably find some double digit IQ mutt streamer on twitch streaming OoT right now and watch him struggle with the puzzles designed for Japanese and european children,
>>745833626Explain Zelda 1, 2 & 3 then. I'll wait.
>>745834651>royal family's song still opening the way like it did in zora's fountain, even after all this adventuringsovl
>>745834890What about them? Dungeons are literal numbered sequences telling you where to go in a specific order and all dialogue is tutorializing The manuals provide detailed walkthroughs of the first thirds of the games too. Zelda 2 is the most unusual and hardest one and unsurprisingly also the one tendies hate the most because it didn't follow the same exact braindead formula.
>>745834920They repeat that puzzle like 20 times in the game. It's not just at Zora's Domain.
>>745835067>zelda 1 tells you where to go and in the exact orderIf you're just going to lie at least make it believable
>>745834876They never said that, they said visibility is bad in some parts which is why they added more visual clues to some puzzles in the 3DS remake, plus quality of life like switching the iron boots faster. OoT is not even close to being mechanically difficult, some areas just look incredibly muddy and needed extra crutches in the form of literal yellow paint arrows to make navigation not completely terrible.
>>745835305>Level 1>Level 2>Level 3>Level 4>Level 5>Level 6>Level 7>Level 8>Level 9yeah real fucking mystery what order is intended
>>745834876>of no gamer left behind.lmao Miyamoto's 8 year old child beat this game with no issues. It's a game for toddlers bro.
>>745835305Here you go retarded and lying faggot, as you can see each dungeon is named Level-X. I hope you learned something about a game you never played but still feel the need to lie about.
>>745835305>>745834890What's with LoZ and having the most clueless secondary fanboys imaginable that just blatantly lie about what it even plays like? It's not like it takes very long to romp through these games, they are designed to be extremely accessible and beatable by women.
>>745834876>Nintendo themselves said that the game was too hardThis is Ocarina of Time's final boss btw.
>>745826314It would be kinda cool if it was the same/similar at first glance but with more shit to find. Maybe they'll put new shit in obscure spots like behind the Deku Tree, or fringe corners of Hyrule Field, or something. The story is the same but areas are remixed in subtle ways that freshens them up a bit.I always thought the way the game handled secrets was really unique compared to every 3D Zelda that came after it, stuff like the grottos and gossip stones (which dispense lore and almost something reminiscent of dev comments, of all things) often don't really feel "designed" in a conventional sense. It'd be cool if the new game were to try and recapture those types of secrets in some way.
>>745835841If you ignore all the dogshit UI and markers OoT has some cool visual atmosphere sometimes, production value is really what it excels at but you'll never see fanboys correctly identifying what they really like about it and instead lie about the game being complex or difficult.
>>745821442>We knew nothing about Breath of the Wild except what was within the Great Plateaubut thats 100% of the original content of botw
>>745825226Im not playing remakeslop but there is nothing wrong with that part.
>>745834634Nintendo would have to be insane to release OoT again with the same exact empty overworld and linear ass dungeons that consist of you just walking in a straight line and touching the only interactable object in the room.
>>745826423yeah which is why this shit shouldnt exist in the first place.
>>745836132>but thats 100% of the original content of botwalso he's wrong, they did show off shit beyond the Plateau before releasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dar1t_L2wBkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FMrndVpWs
>>745836254Empty rooms will have more kitbashed non-interactive clutter but the gameplay will stay 99% the same, no reason to reinvent something that's designed to cater to brainless cattle to begin with.
>>745818456https://www.resetera.com/threads/so%E2%80%A6i-popped-into-target-today-and-the-xbox-is-almost-entirely-gone.1610494/
>>745836131MM has the best vibes and atmosphere in the series and yet OoTfags will still claim it's the better game (because they played it when they were 8).
>>745818456Leaker hereIt's mostly a 1:1 remake with updated graphicsThe only real change is to the Forest Temple musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmrzRUojS0
>>745836132>muh PlateauHyrule Castle is the best part of the entire game.
>>745818456they haven't shown gameplay because that's not what tendies care about.
>>745836461https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-bungie-had-5%E2%80%936-games-in-development-but-most-fell-apart-after-sonys-3-6-billion-acquisition.1609870/
>>745836514hyrule castle was a massive disappointment.after all the wanking off I saw about it online I could just blow past it in two minutes with revali's gayle.zero original content in it either. just the same handful of enemies rehashed.and then the finale: an absolutely abysmal ganon fight.
>>745836461https://youtu.be/0FLQ_h_LaqAI'm hyped.
>>745836659>hyrule castle was a massive disappointmentNope. It's the best dungeon the series has ever seen.
>>745836838sad
>>745832363>And all the combat/puzzles are still dogshit.The shittiest part of growing up and liking Zelda is realizing that you have a preference for 1 or 2 3D titles you liked as a kid, plus maybe 1 or 2 more for mechanics/themes. 16-bit handheld/console games are the only consistently strong titles, with the exception of Echoes of Wisdom, which sounds awful.Ocarina, I remember playing it when I was 16 and almost beating it before all my 3DS games got stolen. Trying to play it now, and it's such a slog. That forest temple was so fucking boring.
>>745836771Dampe was freaky damn
Are we getting new voice actors, are the old ones returning, or are they recycling the old voice clips like in the 3DS remake?
I SWEAR TO GOD if they change 23 is number 1......................
>>745839641>67 is skibidi rizz Ohio
>>745837940Growing up is realizing that the open air design is the future because it leads to more novel mechanics above all else, which is generally what people like about Zelda if we're being honest. That next new entry is going to be cool if we're placing portals that seamlessly link two overworlds, ect.
