When did Nintendo become so anti consumer?
>>745830275they got extremely pissed that Zelda TOTK runs far better on a PC than a Switch, so why bother buying a Switch?PURE GREED
>>745830275Over 20 years ago when the lawsuits started
>>745830275Aren't emulators legal?
>>745830480Yes but nintendo does not give a fuck. That is why it was refreshing to see them getting fucked by palworld.
They are pro consumer, which is why they make games. They are anti copyright infringement because their IP is so valuable, unlike most of their competitors who care less because their IP is so shit (they rely on third party IP).
>>745830275Pirates are not consumers
>>745830480Yes but retards keep sharing encryption keys or download links.
>>745830275Ragebait.
>400 switch emulatorsBased Nintendo narrowing it down. Now I'll know which 1 emulator to use.
>>745831986SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE OPEN SOURCE WELL OPTIMIZED EMULATOR
>>745831389oh thank god, I'd hate to be associated with tendie consooooooooooooooooooomersJust keep paying up for my pirated copies cuckboy
>>745830275download recomps as soon as possibledont worry if they work or notshare them everywherewait for updates to trickle
>eden still upNothing burger
Man, i really should download Elysuim, even if im not planing to play anything
>>745830275I don't think removing emulators of consoles you're currently releasing games for is anti-consumer.After it's no longer sold? Yeah, go for it.
Listen up.We can't emulate Switch 2 games.However, I have come to the conclusion that Wii games can be emulated on PC, as long as you have a USB sensor bar, and you make a Mii with a Mii Maker .wad.
>>745832159That's fine. I don't want to be associated with people who use trainers to beat games.
>Ryubing is up>KenjiNX is up>Citron NEO is up>Eden is upWhat did they take down exactly?
>>745832442Why are you projecting so much you mentally ill tendie? I don't use any of that crap. Meanwhile you buy amiibos to get literal cheats ingame. Pathetic.
Always has been. They have always been uptight control freaks.
They're pro-customer instead.
emusisters...
>>745832471Fake scapegoat emulator repos
>>745830381the threads around the week totk leaked were more fun than the game itself it was fun to play while there weas zero information about it online but i don't ever want to play it or btow ever again
>>745832516Come on now. These days every pirated copy comes with trainers. So when you say>I don't use thatwhat you really mean to say>Well I don't use ALL of them, just certain ones. Like infinite health and ammo. Nothing game breaking.
>>745830480Corporations don't give a shit nor do they need to work under the guise of legality, the internet died when DMCA became a thing.
What's the premier emulator to use these days? I still have Ryujinx, but something better should be out by now, right?
>>745832435Why would you want to emulate Wii games to begin with? Worthless gimmick console.
>>745832760You seem to be more knowledgeable about trainers than I am anon, really suspicious. I pirate all the time at csrin and I haven't found a trainer ever bundled in with a trainer yetOnly cheat that I've used recently was on Pokemon Scarlet ,just so I could disable the fucking forced expshare and hope that the game actually became harder as a result
>>745832760What retarded shit is this tendie shill hallucinating about?
>>745832858I want to have Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree on my tabletop.I also don't want to worry about running out of blocks.I'll start accumulating Wii discs by buying them off eBay, and then I will run them on Dolphin from my disc drive.
It is legal to emulate though?
>>745830275and goyim will still support them
What games since Rhythm Heaven Groove are even coming out for the Switch?
>>745836347It doesn't matter because Groove is the only worthwhile Nintendo game to play that's released this year
>>745830275This is pro consumer though, why would I , someone who is a hard-working, Nintendo supporting consumer , want PC pirate vegans and zoomer twitter trannys get the games I pay money for for free? Nintendo making money on their games only helps to fund the enxt ones to be better
>>745837602>t. bootlicking balding manchild
>>745830480emulators are only ever illegal if code in them have proprietary stuff, like if a PS1 emulator ship with a PS1 BIOS, if they ship with a console encryption key, etc
>>745830381Poor people who conveniently think everyone with a single penny more than them is greedy should be enslaved.
>>745838367shalom rabbi
>>745830275What exactly is consumer about emulators?
>>745830275Based. Pirates get what they fucking deserve
>>745830275Good luck deleting it from my PC lmao
>>745830275Based Nintendo
my yuzu still works btwfuck ISRAELtendoFUCK consoles
>>745839123You're just a poor jew. Also a nigger somehow.
>>745840028>BLOODY BASTARD BITCH SAAR!keep repeating buzzwords drone
>>745830275Nextendo is still up.Fuck you, Shitendo.
>>745830480Yes, they're banking on nobody having the money or ability to countersue
>>745839783You're poor.
>>745830480Yes, but the idiots are sharing encryption keys which are NOT legal.
>>745830480YesNintendo has been pretending its preferences are law for over 20 years, anon, and nobody has bothered to tell them otherwise.
>>745840234You are a low iq nigger.
>>745830275Based.Fuck pirate trannies.Shoulda kept your faggot mouths shut. Lmao
>>745840779>you're poor if you don't own console designed for poorfags from thirdie countries and low income social circlesum.. my PC chair alone is worth more than Switch 2
>>745830275Let’s be real here emusnoys had it coming for years now
>>745832471What's the best option to go for these days? I haven't kept up at all
>>745841008>jeet melty
>>745830275>brag about selling 69 trillion copies 5 minutes after each Nintendo game release>still cries about piracy and emulatorsremember all Nintendo game sales are fake their game barely sell
>>745830275Nooooooo-*pop*Oh nevermind
>>745830381Sorru about your loss, emu bro
>pirates>consumers
>>745830275I only really care about the 3ds emulators really. It sucked that citra died because of yuzu trannies and their shitcord
>>745841053You are poor if you need piracy, yes. As gaben himself said, piracy is just a service problem.
>>745831408>>745837842>>745840860A well-informed Anon on the subject once explained that, under U.S. law, it's not illegal to break an anti-piracy or DRM encryption system, if it's so you can run your own product on a device that wasn't originally designed for it.So, theoretically, even sharing the keys can be considered legal, under certain circumstances.But it doesn't make a difference, because even if people don't share them, Nintendo takes down the emulators, just as they did with Yuzu and Ryujinx, which were both 100% legal but didn't stand a chance against Nintendo.And yes, you can charge money for an emulator because it's not illegal to charge for software you wrote yourself, which is used to perform perfectly legal operations, such as running software developed for one platform on another.
>>745841053>tranime
>>745842307>consolefag quoting Gaben without knowing the meaning behind his wordsclassic
>>745830275>pirate>consumerlol, lmao
>>745830480Completely, but the law has this really cool feature where you can just say whatever you want in relation to a C&D and the other party will be forced to comply or take you to court. If you have more money than them, you automatically win. If the other party is just an individual, you won't even have to do anything because they can't justify taking it to court since there's a 100% chance of them losing money and gaining nothing.I think it's a very epic part of the judicial system, more people should be using it.
>>745842413>being this new
>>745841053Why are you pirating console games, is it because you can't own PC games?
>>745842413Toradora is a foundational text here you nitwit.
>>745842589What makes you think I haven't been here longer than you?
>anti-consumerThird worlders who don't even buy games aren't consumers, they're parasitesThis is why the switch 2 "boycott" failed, whether you love or hate a game/console it doesn't matter because you never bought anything in the first place so they didn't lose a customer
>>745830480Emulators by themselves aren't illegal unless they're shipped with game roms, or the console bios/firmware data that's necessary to make them run games. Usually the authors tells you to go look for that data elsewhere, or to extract one from your legally owned console
>>745842307Do you even know what that quote means? 'Piracy is a service problem' puts the blame of piracy on producers, not customers. He was saying that if you make a really good service then people will buy it; your service needs to be more convenient and higher quality than piracy. It doesn't apply as much to consoles since that's also a hardware investment.
This is the point where MS of all people needs to stand up and claim these are not legitimate takedown requests because they are not illegal. >>745832471All of these have their own separate git, not github hosted as I recall. >Ryubing>KenjiNXI think Ryubing is the most advanced Ryujinx branch? I thought Kenji was basically very similar to original Ryujinx without any of the updates. I actually am the one who did the testing to get dual joycon onto Ryubing and working, or at least one of them. >Citron NEO>EdenHow do these compare? I was under the impression that Eden was better than Citron originally but not sure about "neo"?
>>745842773uTorrent was developed by a Swede and is maintained by an American.
>>745841325I had to use Ryubing or Kenji-NX in order to be able to speed the game up when playing Xenoblade Chronicles, but otherwise I think any of the listed ones are fine. Most people seem to prefer the Yuzu-based emulators like Eden or Citron NEO.
>>745842927and? 99% of it's users are third worlders
>>745830275>400 switch emulatorsThat doesn't even sound real.
>>745842773>ATTENTION GOYIM! YOU ARE A FAT BLACK JAK IF YOU DONT SUCK CORPORATE COCK! DONT YOU REALLY THINK THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION DESERVES A REACHAROUND? IF NOT THATS PRETTY ANTISEMITIC!
>>745842773unless it's an indie dev, the developers got already paid and most of them were already fired by the time the game was released. Buying a game has 0 (zero) influence on the monetary gain of the developers, unless it's an indie studio.
>>745842059I buy all my switch games and play them on pc.
>>745842598I'm not buying inferior hardware to play 3 games
>>745843163You're not doing anything at all regarding the Switch 2.
>>745843115>IF YOU'RE NOT A DEADWEIGHT NEET YOU'RE A CORPORATE BOOTLICKER
pirate trannies are the first ones to act shocked when the developers of a game they like announce they're not doing any more sequels due to lack of interest in the IPsame with crying about playstation dropping physical games, as if you were buying any, you're literally the reason why they do this
>>745843314why would i need to do anything about a console with no games?
>>745843409just be both or at least fight for israel (online) (useless)
>>745843754This implies you have a choice to do anything
>If you don't let me steal you're badFascinating behavior. It is a great example showing how different their species is from ours
>>745841325Eden is clearly the most supported out there for a long time now. It gets frequent updates and the creators doesn't seem to be afraid of the Nintendo ninjas. The only real weakness it has is visual novels. For some reason VNs tend to not load or crash after a few minutes on it. I'm keeping Ryubing around just for that but it didn't get updates for ages so newer VNs may not be playable. It could play Slay the Princess from the newer games but not Stories from Sol.
>>745843937i made a choice that caused (you) to seethe, thats enough for me.
>>745843702doesn't make sense when capcom spams 100 RE squeakquels per year
>>745844080>picrel average vidya thread that has no Switch port and tendies chimp out all over the board
>>745830275The moment their manchildren fanbase lost their last brain cell and became a bunch of zombies who would buy anything no matter what, thats why they ever tried to sell them cardboard
>>745830275They always have been.They went into customer fucking overdrive when iwata died though
>>745844123This but Nintendo making a choice, and you seething
fucking BASED
>>745844080Careful, you're dangerously close to condemning the yamato damashii of Nintendo's proud ancestors.
>>745832858>Why would you want to emulate [X] to begin with?it's not a matter of "why"
>>745842408You're actually completely retarded if you think """well informed Anons""" on 4chan who tell you piracy is super duper legal are anywhere near reality.>It's okay to charge money for emulators that play games, even if you didn't make the game!Actually knuckle dragging levels of retarded. Do other people have to chew your food for you so you don't choke?
>>745843409throwing more coins onto scrooge's giant pile does not help society
>>745844079>literally didn't even have any prod.keysthis is like selling guns illegally without the bullets and pretending that makes it okay because you technically can't shoot with itit's obviously done in bad faith
>>745844276the japanese are so brain damaged that they turned based nobunaga into a villain.
>>745844164RE fans buy gamesmegaman "fans" emulate games
>>745844532No? Without the keys it's completely non-functional until modified. It'd be like selling a completely legal gun without a firing pin.
>>745844423Distributing roms is considered illegal entirely because of copyright violations in the US and Canada. Maybe you should actually look up the law before assuming it is illegal.
>>745844423There's nothing that anon has said that is incorrect. Everything from the Bleem case to the DVD DeCSS case are precedent. >Charge money for emulators Almost nobody has done this, at least none of the major projects. I mean, you CAN do it if it was created by clean room reverse engineering, but its still not usually how things work. Even the big spergout about Yuzu wasn't that they charged for the emulator which they didn't - if you wanted to compile it yourself you could do so for free if you wanted the EA pull requests, or wait for them to compile a standard release update. People could donate and get pre-compiled EA binaries faster, but that's why when PineEApple started compiling them themselves Yuzu didn't get all pissy and try to make them stop, it was legal for both of them to do what they did entirely. >SO Y YUZU GIVE UP WHEN NINTENDO SUEZU Mainly because they knew that a loss because of boomer technological stupidity would let Nintendo's wackjob concept of 'all emulation is illegal, playing any game on any device that isn't blessed by Nintendo is illegal" could gain strength, and they also got caught on Discord talking about swapping ROMs to test during development which is small scale copyright infringement and basically this is the >Hey your tail light is out, so I'll use that to write you a ticket, but also when I got close to your car I say I smelled drugs, and the K9 shat himself and now I have a warrant to rape your entire house on a fishing expedition to find anything illegal, which I found when the locks to your gun safe werent' child safe despite no children in the house , now you're going to jail as an example etc.
>>745844938and what will you do with the emulator? you'll download it with the explicit intention of adding the prod.keys to pirate gamessame reason why you can't just sell certain gun parts even if they're "completely non-functional until modified", otherwise anyone without a gun permit could just buy all the parts and build a functional gunagain, your poor logic here is done in bad faith and it's blatantly obvious
>>745830275>Torrents are still upSay what
>doesn't buy their games>considers themselves consumerslmao
>>745842408>A well-informed Anon on the subject once explained that, under U.S. law, it's not illegal to break an anti-piracy or DRM encryption system, if it's so you can run your own product on a device that wasn't originally designed for it.That all changed with the DMCA, which makes it illegal even if you own it and are dumping it yourself.
>>745845801They genuinely think their opinions matter and it's hilarious
>>745830275They make money by selling games. If the games can be played for free then they don't make money and can't make more games. Is it pro consumer to not make games because everyone is stealing your work?
>>745845894Parasites think anything that stops them from stealing is bad, don't pay attention to their entitled begging
>>745830275Piratenogs aren't "consumers", you are leeches.
>>745845962>>745845876>>745845801>when someone claims to be a PC+switch idort, but despises the idea of emulation because the poor heckin corporation might lose a few pennies
>>745830275>unlawful trafficking
>>745846035there are barely any genuine idorts here desumost of those who claim so are lying consolecucks because they have no arguments to fight back
>>745846035Are you brown?
>>745846035>>when someone claims to be a PC+switch idortI know the switch makes pc gaming redundant these days but that's just rude bro.
>>745842408>100% legal>accepted money for early builds to play unreleased gamesehhhhh
>>745846035>me poor, me want others to work to give me free shit
>>745846217>I know the switch makes pc gaming redundant Console cucks actually believe this.
>>745842951>>745844120Thanks, I'll give Eden and/or Ryubing a try
>>745846217>I know the switch makes pc gaming redundantHow? Are you retarded? Must be. I have a switch 2 and a switch OLED. They barely get used. I finished Raiders and now the 2 will sit idle for like 12 months probably.
>>745846035>youtubers are against emulation
>>745830275When Iwata passed.
>>745846320They're shills, so yeah.
>>745846286you can just emulate on Nintendo consoels since the Wii. PC isn't really necessary anymore.
>>745846420I remain unconvinced.
>>745841325Eden
What will you do about it brokeboy?stop buying their games? you never started, they've been selling games for decades without you, and now are doing better than ever
>>745846437So how can I emulate Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance Forever? And how do I play Starsector on the Switch? And when did the Switch 2 allow romhacks and mods?
>>745841325I like Eden but the stable build because Nightly crashes more often. Most games work from start to finish, few have graphical glitches and very few crash and can't be beaten.
>>745830480Yes, but GitHub is run by Microsoft and they aren't going to fight Nintendo
>>745830275So what? They'll just pop back up again as they always have.
>>745846364oh banana...
>>745830275pesky turdworld brown piartes are not consumers
>>745846563What's the answer, sealion?
>>745846697There's no way to do any of that on the Switch, so claiming that the PC isn't necessary just made you a liar. But tendies lie all the time, so this shouldn't come as a surprise.
>>745846527based i have a switch already but ill be getting this too for any other purchases
>>745846803Then you personally should get a PC. It's not that complicated.
>>745846527>opciones>iniciarlmao the stereotypes are right, pirates are beaners
>>745846985So you acknowledge that your previous post was a lie and that the PC isn't redundant. Good to know.
>>745846527>latinx>nintendo derangement syndrome>emulator veganits all starting to make snese
why are nintendofags genuinely behaving like BLM did in 2015
>>745847306When you think your corporation is your best friend, you're willing to defend anything they do, no matter how questionable. It's sad.Meanwhile, even PC people who like steam will tell you "I don't trust gaben with my library, so pirate everything as a backup."
What always baffled me is how /v/ is so pro nintendo, despite the shit they do.
>>745847151PC is factually redundant for playing Nintendo games. That's why you moved the goalpost to playing something else entirely.
>>745847306Because you're evil.And I know you're evil.
>>745847556most of modfags are huge nintendorks so the demographic shift is noticeable the last few years, you often see non-nintendo games being shitposted to death, which is no coincidence because they co-ordinate raids from discord, all of it allowed with very few exceptions, notice how you don't get banned for saying bad things about snoy or microcuck or steam ( despite rothshilds hiring a massive anti-shill campaign recently )
>>745847627That would only be true if Nintendo was a force for good. A force for good would not be shutting down perfectly legal emulation
>>745842408>it's not illegal to break an anti-piracy or DRM encryption systemIt actually is which is what the entire yuzu case was predicated on and the devs being documented pirates further strengthened nintendo's position that they weren't doing it for game preservation or something more defensible in court which is why they settled immediately.Ryujinx was never sued because the dev was much less of a blatant pirate, didn't violate dmca since the decryption shit was decoupled from the emulator, and also wasn't even based in the USA. Nintendo instead just made some offer to him to shut down voluntarily which he accepted.
>>745847627>digital piracy is evilHalf the population is going to hell then.
>>745847909Nintendo has every right to shut down Switch 1 emulation and piracy because they are still selling and supporting the Switch 1.
>>745847705Steam is the second most heavily shilled platform here after Nintendo. And it's not even a platform, just a store with a very very loyal fanbase
>>745848013No, Nintendo's detractors are evil.
>>745848017No they don't, emulation is legal. Bleem was sued by Sony like 20 years ago, Sony lost and since then everyone knows emulation is legal
>>745847573Except for mods, romhacks, recomps, native ports, fangames, and everything else that you exclude because you're a disingenuous sealion. ;)>b-but I can jailbreak older nintendo consolesHow's that going for the Switch 2?
>>745848017By that logic, you support them shutting down emulation of all nintendo consoles, due to the games on NSO and rereleases.
>>745848171>Except for [just more things that aren't Nintendo, same tactic I used last time]See >>745846985
>>745848578Maybe you shouldn't lie and shitpost, if you don't want people calling you out.
>>745830275>>>NOOOOOO WHY DOESN'T NINTENDO LET US PIRATE THEIR SHIT?? This can't be anti-consumer because only poor browns care about emulation, not consumers.
>>745848703I didn't lie or shitpost or tell anyone to not call me out but thanks for the useless advice.
Help please. I am new to handheld emulators. Where do I get mods? like 60fps for switch games.
>>745848760>I didn't lie>>745846437>PC isn't really necessary anymore.>>745846217>the switch makes pc gaming redundant
>>745848806Why would I help a PC vegan?
>>745848806banana
>>745848972They're right.
>>745849078If there are games that can't be played on nintendo consoles, and if there are nintendo games that can't be played on current nintendo consoles, then that kinda proves them wrong. You even admit that you have to violate the EULA of the Switch and jailbreak it, just to even come close. And that's a luxury that comes with the risk of Nintendo either banning your console, or you bricking the console. As opposed to the feature just being native, ala PC.
>>745849238But didn't you say exclusives are "anti consumer shit for trannies"? Why are you suddenly worshiping PC exclusives?
>no games>shitty hardware>preoccupied with people emulating their toddlerwaresDeath throes.
>>745849751>Why are you suddenly worshiping PC exclusives?Where did I say this?
>>745830275>anti consumerpirates arent consumers
>>745849946>>745849238>>745848171>>745846803
>>745842408You're retarded. It's the sharing of the keys that is the primary problem. Have a look at every fucking lawsuit involving piracy. You can steal all the digital content you want. Sharing it is what get's you in trouble (if they can prove it).
anyone who cares already has the emulators downloaded. hell i have Yuzu, Suyu, Ryujinx, and Eden
>>745848258No.I only support them shutting down emulation for consoles they currently sell, the Switch 1 and the Switch 2.Emulators for previous consoles offer more features than the NSO emulators.That said, I am playing Fire Emblem on the GBA NSO, only because I don't feel like firing up my Legion Go to play it for the time being.
>>745850037>ctrl+ "exclusives">your post is the first one bringing it up>doesn't appear in any of the posts you linkedYou good, bro?
Isn't this unlawful? Emulation is not illegal. Making backups of games you own to play on an emulator is not illegal.
>>745850139I'm doing just fine. You?
>>745830275I haven't even felt like I wanted a switch emulator, most games I wanted to play on switch but on pc were already on pc. Theres like 2 NIS games stuck on switch and kingdom hearts melody of memory
>>745830275>anti consumer?>As if Pirates are consumers
>>745832402Shut up Chaud
>>745850197Yeah but good luck fighting it in court lol
