Nomura has been an incredibly boring character designer in recent years.
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>>745839553>NOOOOO IT DOESN'T LOOK LOWPOLY ANS SHITTY LIKE MY CHILDHOOD NOOO IT REMINDS ME THAT I'M OLD AND THESE GAMES ARE 20 TO 30 YEARS OLD NOOOO I'M GONNA DIE SOON WAHHHHwhy did you say this?
>>745839706what's an ans?
>in recent years>
>>745839553How do you make top look like a game made in 2026, exactly?
>>745839706meds
>>745839759They don't need to be realistic to begin with. That's only to get le approval from normalfaggots.
>>745839929Ok but you make top...just that? do you upgrade the graphics, how?
>>745839759actual art direction that adhered to the anime/cartoony concept artthis isn't hard to understand
>>745839963What games does that nowadays?
>>745840037most japanese RPGs, for starters
>>745839553>kid whose hair spikes up and to the left (his right) wielding oversized swordWhoa such interesting designs
>>745840097No, i dont want 3d anime slop.
>>745839963The shitting early 2000s cartoony anime shit has massively overstayed its welcome. Things like RE engine, Luminous, Platinum are significantly better in literally every way.
>>745840128well you're getting outsourced indian slop, so congrats
>>745839953Are you pretending to be retarded?
His designs are more charming when they look like anime characters instead of cosplayers or visual kei musicians.
Versus 13 is finally upon us.......
>>745839553>boring because not straight up anime
>>745840314Charming = thing from my childhood now apparently. The detailed and more fleshed out version is superior by far, I think you're just autistic.
>>745839553Cloud's slightly more realistic but otherwise faithful, it's more or less how he's looked since Advent ChildrenSora looks like that entirely on purpose, including his hair being less fantastical and losing its "crown" after like four people exit his body and he gets blown out of time and space by changing history so his friends don't bite the dust without a fight, so this one's entirely on OP for getting outsmarted by Nomura and for getting outsmarted by the children's media he sneers at
>>745840503I didn’t even grow up with the original, I just don’t care for photorealism in games.
>>745840503>The detailed and more fleshed out version is superior by farNo.
Cloud looks so goofy in remakes
>>745839553You can see the loss of soul in real time.
>>745840580>it's more or less how he's looked since Advent ChildrenWhich is to say bad.
>>745839553He hasn't designed anything in years, his last character was FFXIV's Gaia.Your upset with his underling Roberto Ferrari
>>745839553There's nothing wrong with that Cloud. KH1 Sora looks like shit compared to 2 and 3, but 4 looks worse. Cloud's hair is at faithful as "realism" could be, Sora's isn't at all.
>>745839553Maybe he got tired of constantly hearing about LMAO BELTS AND ZIPPERS AND SPIKY HAIRYou did this
>>745840314>His designs are more charming when they look like animethere's no point in discussing anything with weebs, especially when it comes to art style/design because your brain is completely corrupted by anime and anything that isn't anime should be anime
>>745840037Psychonauts 2 did that
>>745840752Sora's clothes in particular got less fantastical in every game, even in 3D where his appearance otherwise regresses to how he looked in KH1, it's a visual metaphor for him growing up. His hair changing to how he looked in BBS is probably a visual metaphor for him having to start completely afresh at the ass end of the multiverse.
>>745839759Make it look like an animated movie made in 2026>B-BUT CALARTS SPIDER-VERSE WOKESLOPNo you disingenuous faggot, I'm talking about adopting the lighting, materials, and rendering pipeline used to make stylized cartoony art drection look realistic. Video games haven't even caught up to Toy Story 1 graphically.
>>745840858Sora's supposed to have his shota hair and not his KH1 and onwards hair
>>745840963>Video games haven't even caught up to Toy Story 1 graphicallyKH3's Toy Story world is pretty fucking close, looks better in some regards
>>745840485in this case, literally yes
>>745841023Oh no, we had this discussion years ago with screenshot comparison
>>745839553>Nomura has been an incredibly boring character designer in recent years.
>>745840876It IS anime.
>>745840626I don't mind realism, but FFVII's designs benefit from greater abstraction. I think the original FFVII looks pretty good most of the time, but character appearances since then just look terrible.
>>745841163>this nigga discovered what concept art is
Sakurai did it better
>>745841023I think the art direction in KH3's Toy Story world is leagues more appealing, it's fantastic what they were able to accomplish. But if we're just comparing raw processing power, the video game that needs to render assets and lighting in real-time for 60 frames a second still hasn't reached the graphical fidelity of a feature that required heavy-duty render farms for each single frame of animation. Video games have to rely on all sorts of smart optimization tricks to keep their visuals next-gen and performant, animated 3DCG movies have no (hypothetical, not budgetary) limit so they can be as wasteful with their resources as they can feasibly get.
>>745840037Vividlope
>>745841394*pukes*
People will genuinely come in here and tell you that FF7 looks better than remake when cloud is 3 polygons and some wd40 on the ps1. This has to be a mental illness or some sort of psyop. I grew up in that time and thought it looked like shit, especially after the ps2 came out and FF10 had a massice graphical step up. FFAC and the FMVs showcased clearly the style they wanted in their games and modern entries reflect that.
>>745841383SE characters look ugly as fuck in Smash.
>>745840503>MORE POLYGONS AND TEXTURES = BETTER ART
>>745841446>People will genuinely come in here and tell you that FF7 looks better than remakeIt does, yes.
>>745841446I didn't grow up in that time and I think there's a beauty to visual limitation that people are only starting to appreciate after it's gone
>>745839553I have a feeling Square is forcing him to make more "grounded" "realistic" characters because normies won't play wacky "anime" games and they need to make a gorillion dollars or the game is a flopIt's not the PS1 days any more where you could experiment
>>745840314Cloud in the remake looks like a teenaged girl in cosplay.
>>745841608That's some ass-backwards logic when one of those games stars FUCKING DONALD DUCK
>>745841383looks like shit
>>745841446FF7 original had groundbreaking, cutting edge 3d visuals for its times
>>745839553the clerith lovechild
>>745841608>because normies won't play wacky "anime"it has nothing to do with anime. Good art style is good art style regardless if it's anime or realistic. Normies love Persona and it's anime. Many people back in the day thought that ff7 looked like crap in gameplay, but the fmvs looked great (and the fmvs were not anime by the way)
>>745839553>>745839929>>745839963>>745840314More often than not, they would have done it similar to current games if they could have.
>>745842012>the fmvs were not anime>
>>745841736Donald Duck is an animal mascot and one of the oldest and most widely accepted in the whole worldSame logic does not apply at all for original human charactersYou can do whatever you want with Donald Duck that doesn't mean you can pull out all the designs that flew in a PS1 game and expect it to sell 10 million like Square wants
>>745842097correct
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>>745842397>just make 3d anime fire emblem trails slopNo.
>>745841608You know what he produces when a project he's not head of gives him a carte blanche character design role? The same shit he's doing everywhere else. Dark haired pouty lipstick girl #12, Noctis clone #6, and Weiss #2.
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>>745839759make it look like the cgi cutscenes from kh1 and 2
>>745839706>>745840503You are in your 40s and you spend all day, every day, schizoposting like this. Stop larping as a young man dunking on grampas in FF threads. And are you saying you're NOT autistic? lmao
>>745839553>>745840314He was a "concept artist" with his character designs.He didn't create polygonal art.And his drawings are GAY.
>>745839759someone literally made a FF7 mod that makes the characters look like their concept art 1:1 in their spare time.we're in an era where anime games can look almost 1:1 with their 2D counterparts, but square didn't want to push an anime art style because turning it into an action game with realistic graphics was them chasing western trends, as square literally admitted to
Uncs will deadass look at you and tell you right is beautiful and stylized and looks amazing but would NEVER want to play as left because it looks like shit. These people aren't human
When Nomura is criticized in any way I just see red, it makes me so mad
>>745839553I like him.
>>745839553A negative post about 7R and KHIV at the same time? There go my next few hours. You're going to be sorry you did this.
>>745843192This shit looks terrible, like someone unironically threw it into an ai to gen the sprite
>>745842623I do not understand how someone can look at these designs, with their angular faces, exaggerated hairstyles and big eyes, and say that they aren’t anime.
Nomura hate when you should be hating on the faggots that made those gay ass FFXIII games and ruined the entire goddamn series.
>People are confused about why the guys named Cloud and Sky look similar
>>745842279Oh I'm sorry, my mistake. Donald Duck, Woody, Sulley, Pocahontas, Hercules, Maleficent, the list goes on...Cartoony =/= "out-of-date." Compare the jump from Toy Story - Toy Story 5 to Snow White - live-action Snow White. Live-action Snow White must look so much better because it's "more realistic," right? Those nasty-ass mo-cap dwarves SURE look appealing!
>>745839553Sora looks cute
>>745843363Kek I'm a zoomer fresh out of college and I think left looks like dogshit, is it still an "unc" opinion? Or are you going to backpedal "u-uh, u-uh, actually zoomies have shit taste too!" It's one or the other faggot
>>745844457The simple truth is Disney is still normie level stuff, bland photorealistic visuals are too, and anime is notAnime is more mainstream than it used to be but still not even close to the same level as Disney and bland photorealism It won't sell as well and that's all a company like Square cares about
>>745844578Congrats you're a brainwashed faggot with shit taste desperate to fit in. Everyone is real proud of you
>>745843984It’s just boomers in denial
>>745844676Kek, brainwashed by who? You're the one who wasted your time creating a whole-ass infographic just to spite the wrong-opinion boogeymen
>>745839553it was always a running joke but those clothes look even more the part. I guess it proves OP's point if the recycling is folding in on itself
>>745845046You really are a retarded zoomer if you think 30 seconds in photoshop is any amount of work.
>>745844645I want to believe this but it's really hard to when Kingdom Hearts is chuuni up the ass, I think they'll have no trouble selling the game on the promise of Toy Story or Frozen or whatever but no level of character redesign is going to rewire normalfags into thinking it isn't "that game where Mickey Mouse hangs out with an anime boy." The damage has already been done from decades in the public consciousness and a steady stream or re-releases
>>745845268At least I'm not the one using buzzwords like "unc" or "deadass" to create shitty (you)bait, kek. I'd expect a greater level of maturity from my elders.
>>745839553ffVII ruined JRPGsremake cloud needed more muscle
>>745845487Yea instead you just type "kek" every post so everyone knows you're le epic 4chan and fit in here.
Is anyone else already making themselves angry by imagining FFXVII being criticized in any way? You just know that game will come out and someone is going to dislike it for some reason and they're going to be wrong whatever they say and it's going to piss me off.
>>745845570Kek don't be such a wet blanket anon, I'm just having a laugh
>>745845592Me. I read your post and recognised myself in it.
They both look more fuckable
You guys really angered the shitposter, look at this: >>>/vg/578339586/That faggot has been spamming /ffg/ with crosslinks, wishing we'd come serve as its personal army, and my friend confirmed he's tried to report every post that clowns on him.
>>745847309Imagine the new 3d animations with Sora
>>745847327That's embarrassing. I can't imagine being so incensed by the sight of my own opinion coming from someone else.
>>745840128Then you're not buying Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts to begin with. Why does your opinion on this matter.
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>>745847430>>745847327Damn, i REALLY triggered you with this.
>>745840896>His hair changing to how he looked in BBS is probably a visual metaphor for him having to start completely afresh at the ass end of the multiverse.It's not that deep nigga. Nomura is just chasing the western anime-realism trend like in FF7R.
>>745847645Sure
>>745847645>I linked those posts on /vg/ to make you mad, actuallyWell that backfired because I've been laughing at you quite a lot
>>745847603Wait a minute... Aerith and Cloud are both in KH... Sora's parents are still a complete mystery... Nomura wouldn't dare... would he....?
>>745847645>I linked those posts on /vg/ to make you mad, actuallyAll you succeeded is embarrassing yourself.Again.
>>745847990>sora's mom hasn't shown up since kh1 because she was stabbed by sephiroth off screen>cloud was a fucking deadbeat world traveler trying to kill sephiroth before that happened
>>745847990>>745849668Funny as it would be, Sora meets both cloud and aerith in game and doesn't recognize either of them as his parents. I mean, Xehanort wasn't born on destiny islands either, and neither was Kairi, but Sora seemed to be born there and cloud and aerith are canonically from radiant garden in kingdom hearts.
>>745843692kek
>>745849820Sora's parent's on Destiny Island were not his real parentsOr there's some alt universe stuffOr time travel stuffOr body swappingOr whateverIt's KH they can do whatever they want
>>745850063I still think the real parental conspiracy theory is that Kairi should be Ansem the Wise's daughter, because she was associated with the castle library in hollow bastion and was princess of heart for Radiant Garden. They just didn't want to commit to it back when Ansem Seeker of Darkness was the only Ansem.
>>745847990If it were just up to him he probably would
>>745847663Yeah nah Sora losing even a tiny bit of crown imagery along with his clothes getting even plainer means SOMETHINGI would not cite FF7 Re which is super faithful ti every character except Tifa with the added compression shirt, and maybe Aerith with her giant ass from Rebirth
>>745839553anime is a boring art style
