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Souls bros... how do we cope with the fact this this is better than any Souls game ever made?

Anyway, discuss the game.
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>>745850514
its a shitty low budget ds3 clone, huge let down, they cut out anything unique about it
played ai limit recently, its just better
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>>745850967
>tranny weeb AI slop game is better
lol no
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>>745851005
like it or not there are dozens of soul clones, ones that have 10x better gameplay like khazan, diablo loot and progression system for autists like nioh, or retarded difficulty like lies of p
anyway ai limit is a much better package with story that isnt a from tier cancer aids, maze like level design and dynamic gameplay
or you can just play ds3 or elden ring, that have actual build and weapon variety, not fucking 2 clunky attacks like mortal shell 2
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>>745850514
I'm trying to get a refund because they pussied out to redditors and nerfed all the bosses and enemies. They basically gave us the IGN build and got praised for it by this generation of dad gamers who can't handle friction in their games.
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>>745850514
I'm having fun, but not being able to fully upgrade all of the tarstones is bullshit, and I want the NaylShotte to hit harder. They are going to be rolling out patches here and there and have already improved the gold economy on the PC port, so that's a start
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>>745851450
They made it easier?
The beta was already a joke...
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>>745850514
I like the monster designs and the body horror aspects of the game but holy shit the level design just ruins it for me. On top of that the devs are doing themselves no favors by being on Reddit and letting them decide how their game should be balanced and patched.
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good game
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>>745851450
>They basically gave us the IGN build
this is how I can tell when a retard is just joining the mob and has zero idea what he's talking about
Read the patch notes you hyperbolic fucking retard
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>>745851613
>The beta was already a joke...
It was a joke that the beta was made easy on purpose so game journos can feel good and rate the game well instead of crying over accessibility. Everyone was happy that the release was harder than the demo, only for r/patientgamers to flood the dev's discord and threaten refunds.
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>>745851613
They only changed the enemies from the start area to make them as hard as in the beta.
You play on night mode, which makes everything harder (and there are secrets in the world that only show up at night.)
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>>745850514
XP loss on death is an objectively bad mechanic and every game that copies this trope is worse for having done so
also kinda hate the early parry timing but otherwise this shit is AESTHETIC as fuck
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>>745851724
Okay, retard. From the official discord.

Bosses
The Lost Child
- Base Damage: (-10%)
- Max Health: (-15%)
Monolith
- Base Damage: (-19%)
- Max Health: (-10%)
- Some Monolith Attacks were retimed to be more fair, as well.

Enemies
Cultist (mace)
Max Health: (-21.1%)
Caerinid Spider
Max Health: (-33.3%)
Infested Stalker
- Max Health: (-52.4%)
Rusted Knave (Halberd)
- Max Health: (-20.8%)
- Fixed hit detection for overhead strike.

Weapons
-Great Martyr’s Blade Attack Damage +20%
-Troubador’s Lute Attack Damage +100%
-Caged Hystrix and Triarch Repeater no longer have minimum resolve requirements to fire.
-Improved tracking for Axatana, Black Needle, and Clockwork Scythe light attacks.

Seals
Guard can now be used while walking.

Tarstones
Parasitic Stone Buffed
Grudge Stone Buffed
Bulwark Stone Damage Reduction Increased Significantly
Clerik's Stone Buffed
Squall Stone Buffed

So nerfs for all the enemies listed and buffing the fuck out of the player. Remind me who didn't play the game again, retard?
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Is it me or are there not nearly enough beacons? I want to go find this new weapon on the map but I have to go 12 miles on foot with only 4 healing charges and then run a dungeon and fight a boss.
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>>745851450
>>745851613
There's a hard mode you just have to beat one of the first bosses and get the flame to unlock it on the tower
It also makes it night which is cool
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>>745851828
see >>745851856
the hard/night mode doubles enemy HP and damage and increases rewards
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>>745851828
now tell me how nerfing enemies in the tutorial is the IGN build you weeping woman dipshit?
Nothing here changes you getting 2 or 1 tapped in the second half of the game and only two bosses were touched

fucking whining moron who is not even playing the game
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>>745850514
I just started playing this game. How come my character got an entire village of random farmers to kill themselves? Surely they didn't need to be standing next to me when I exploded. Am I the baddy?
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>>745851828
>proves him right
Nice job.
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>>745850514
I got bored during the demo
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>>745851843
It's my main complaint about these games, reusing objectively bad mechanics like sparse checkpoints and XP loss on death which severely limit your ability to be creative, try shit out and experiment
Stop punishing me for trying to play the fucking game
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>>745851979
I'm not here to talk about your generic gripes about a game you haven't played, I asked a specific question about THIS game.
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>>745851979
bro just pick up your bloodstain, it isn’t a big deal
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>>745851979
Why is modern /v/ so fucking washed? Niggers on this board bitch about games not being fun anymore and then turn around to show how they physically cannot play games on a mechanical level anymore. Maybe the problem's you? Maybe you're a bitter washed up old man?
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>>745852060
/v/ has been bad at video games for many years now and gets worse every year. The days of Tribes vs Reddit are long past.
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>>745851919
>it doesn't count because it's only the first few hours, actually
I accept your concession.
>>745851950
You don't even know how to read if you believe that.
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>>745851450
Sir please this is a hard game; the nerfs were warranted
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>>745851450
>boss hard
>let me get some more upgrades before the attempt
>LE NERFS PATCH
>OH NOES THEY TRIVIALIZED THE GAME, IT'S BORING NOW
These retards don't even think before typing this stupid shit.
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>>745852113
>retard got BTFO
>hurrr...dur...my concertions...
you fucking parrot retards must all come out of the same factory because you spew the same stale buzzwords whenever you get ruined in a thread
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>>745851979
This poster is hung up on the mere idea of losing a fraction of a level worth of experience in a game with infinitely respawning enemies and a mechanic to reclaim the lost experience anyway. Imagine being this much of a bitch.
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>>745851906
>the hard/night mode doubles enemy HP and damage and increases rewards
Having to riposte trash mobs 3-4 times before they die gets old fast. I get the point brev, just die. What /v/ really wants is 3-frame parry timing so they can feel justified in complaining about the game being too hard. If the parry timing is 30 frames, they don't have an excuse and it looks embarrassing when they still whine about getting filtered.
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>>745852029
>>745852060
explain what xp loss adds to the fun of a game
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>>745851979
>ER baby mad at true souls-gameplay
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>>745850514
I have Souls fatigue.
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>>745852152
>>745852235
No, actually explain to me why I can't be upset that the game I bought needed a nerf patch for its bosses. Stop acting mouthy.
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Is there a recommended path to clear? I've just beat the gate to the east and just clearing counter-clockwise since I assume areas around tiel and proxima are supposed to be the starter zones
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>>745852354
post your playtime, shitposting bitch boy
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Am I missing something or can someone explain why >>745851828 doesn't count as a nerf. Genuinely asking.
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>>745852354
You can be upset, but you're also a bitch.
Both can be true.
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>>745852364
I'm at about the same place and I have no fucking clue where to go.
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>>745852286
nta but I kinda like the tension that comes from knowing that if I fuck up I'm losing a whole level or more.
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>>745850514
I did like the gameplay in MS1 but imma be honest, what the fuck was even the story?

I'm not a complete retard and don't need everything spelled out to me, but I feel the worldbuilding and story in the first game was just too cryptic for the sake of being vague.
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>>745852286
it adds at least a little bit of tension so that there is a small cost for losing, same with the run back

this makes the reward for clearing something without dying feel good. if those mechanics weren’t there, you would just sort of breeze through and everything would feel mid, but running out of heals and having a buildup of souls and finally finding a bonfire after a long trek adds a unique experience that would be absent otherwise if death had no consequence
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>>745852446
>>745852490
I want to feel like I can try something new or different or experiment with pathing or playstyle without being punished for it
When I replay Sekiro I mod that shit now to remove loss-on-death and the game is just better for it
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huh weird the guy crying about 'muh nerf patch' didn't post his play time. It's almost like he's not playing the game at all. Weird! Who would do that?
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>>745852490
Is your time not an investment? Even without losing exp on death you're going to need to do the run back because you didn't find a beacon before dying.
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The genre is tired now. What's it been, 15+ years of everyone trying to replicate Dark Souls?
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>>745852698
Go play Dark Souls and then go play this game right after, the difference is night and day.
>The genre is tired because I personally got raped so badly by Consort Radahn 3 years ago that I swore off games forever
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a fucking BIG mango
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Wuchang is the best soulslike
This is p good so far tho
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>>745852638
that's a (you) issue, you have some kind of autistic internal hang up over the theoretical loss of something you can get an infinite supply of
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Not buying it until they add boss checkpoints
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>>745852809
All the Souls clones have the same concepts.
>Zombie graveyard at the start
>Swamp
>the Cathedral
>The heretics
>The blighted/cursed
>enemy behind the corner

The genre became this weird meta-thing where From was trying to one up itself in combat that wasn't designed for that and other devs don't have the design intricacies of From but rely on better presentation.

The genre hasn't evolved because no one understood the Ocarina roots.
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Does anyone even touch the other characters? Everyone seems to only play the BDSM armor bint.
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>>745853002
For the early game she's easily the best shell.
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Gaming as a hobby will not survive the millennial midlife crisis. /v/ will not survive the millennial midlife crisis. This thread is an excellent example of why.
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Is Hilga quest need specific progression ? After tiny frog died, Hilga and her stuff just disappear. The location empty
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>>745853057
Didn't get the #1 Victory Royale today lil bro?
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>niggas calling this a soulslike
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>>745853002
her aesthetic with the shotgun is a high point of the game, plus she has a huge ass
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I have Lies of P trauma. I keep thinking the parry timing is 3x stricter than it is. After the huge wave of mega-tryhard sekirolikes with single-digit parry timings, it's almost alien to have a sekirolike where you get sekiro timings again.
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Ranks for shells have been very different for many as I see which is prob a good thing.
I did unlock Proxima, Lazlo and Sariel in my playtrough. I think all 3 were pretty good, but sariel ability need some fixing only since when you upgraded it missed, but his pain ability is damn good very tanky char.
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>>745853131
That doesnt work good against all mobs nor bosses, but its damn satisfying to do.
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>>745853131
SOULKINO
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>>745852993
Wow dude you described virtually every dungeon crawler to ever exist, good job. How about you actually play games for once?
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>>745853002
she gets extra money, and was 100% required prior to the patch
After the patch I switched to Skellington Man and he's fun as fuck. Proxima is 100% good though, and you can cruise through the whole game on her if you want.
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>>745853057
I disagree and I'm a millennial. I think harder games are more popular than ever.
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No spoilers, but how deep does the "commune with chaos" temple go? Is this worth trying to muscle through at the start, or is it one of those giga dungeons where you're meant to periodically come back and unlock more of it as you go through the whole game?
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>>745853264
Triple threat, I think. She's one of the two early game shells, she has a FAT FUCKING ASS which people love, and the sample drops. Oh, and she's good too, so people can just continue on her if they want.
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>>745850514
Gameplay is solid, fighting feels and sounds chonky and satisfying, but dear lord the progression systems suck ass. Like you level up and get +1 hp, or go level your shells bond and get +1% shell recovery efficiency
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They need to change the shell pointing system.
Just let the player put SPs on all shells at the same. The current system has no point because you can only change the shell at the bonfire, so it's just a timewaster to transfer the points to the shell you change into.
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>>745853131
can you choose whether to grapple to them or grapple them to you?
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>>745853372
Its not that deep and you can shoot barrel to explode some enemies as well, there is also a secret handle in first area you enter that opens up another area that is outside and there will be a grisha + glimpse
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>>745853419
the best thing you get from leveling is the shell points which turn the game into >>745853131
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>>745852473
>Goddess of the planet gives birth to unborn which are all fucked up monsters
>monsters have glands that create a god milk that can be used for drugs that make people more enlightened
>goddess wants to create another god but her normal process of making babies doesn't work so she makes baby seeds instead
>guy who worships the goddess finds seeds and protects them with other guys
>eventually some of the guys form cults and they all want to ascend and become gods with the power of super special god milk but nobody can become a god unless the goddess specifically lets them
>main character is an unborn from a ritual the good guys that still worship the goddess performed
>he collects all the seeds from the cult and kills all the evil corrupt unborn then the goddess and the glands he collects give him everything he needs to ascend and become a new god

>process of becoming god causes an alien lady spaceship to crash on the planet because the ascension was like a navigation beacon
>remnants of the cults decide to worship her
>they steal her eggs from her womb for power
>evil alien sperm on board is corrupting everything because sperm love eggs
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I don't understand how to play around Harden in this game. Am I stupid because it doesn't seem to work that well
>Enemies will attack in combos with 3-5 hits
>Harden: you tank and get ONE hit back
>You then uhhhh run away because you can't parry again for another 3 seconds
>It's not like Bloodborne or Sekiro where you could get behind enemies by dodging because of how hard they magnetize attacks to you
Are you supposed to wait until the endgame when you can stack buffs and oneshot everything to use this?
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>>745852445
I still have some misgivings but it feels like the right idea. Fainweald seems to extend pretty much the entire east and north with 2 nearby gates. I'm running through the north gate now and so far nothing feels that much harder than the east gate enemies so it might be sorta intended?
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>>745853520
But it's like why even bother having these other progression systems if only one matters? And to unlock the crazy shit with shell points you've got to spend your Glimpse increasing your bond which gives such generous bonuses such as increasing your shell recovery hp from 25% to 26%. It just doesn't feel good to spend several Glimpse or thousands of Gloom on upgrades that sound and feel entirely irrelevant
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>>745853837
You should be going for Perfect Hardens, which will almost always instantly break an enemy. The upside is if you don't get the perfect it should stagger them enough for you to dodge out.
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>>745853945
Are perfect hardens like twice as strict as normal parries? I hardly even noticed you could do that.
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I hate to be that guy but how much plot is in these games? Do I miss anything if I haven't played the first one?
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>>745854046
It's much more strict, yes.
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>>745853430
nah
it attracts euros; grapples towards burgers
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This is fucking stupid
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>>745854401
Out Fucking Skilled.
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>>745850514
No coop, so I don't fucking care about this game
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>>745850514
I've completely missed the tarstone that lets you do the overhead shrapnel alternative shot with your sidearms. Where did it go in full release?
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How filtered will he be?
I wish i didnt finish the game already had fun times, now I have to play some shit game i pirated and watch others play on twitch :/
No new games to play Amsterdam 1666 doesnt interest me and its basically AI SLOP the game, Star Wars RTS meh, the only thing one can hope for is that The Blood of Dawnwalker will be good.
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Anyone got the bugged opened chest in the Collapsed Mind and found a way to get that Shattering Tarstone?
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>>745855142
I literally could not care less what assmold does
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It's huuuuhhhh shockwaves bro
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>>745855142
i'll be fair to this faggot and say that most of his gaming taste is pretty solid because he hyper focuses on gameplay and feel above everything
so yeah he's enjoying this game but he will absolutely seethe at the clunky state of many things
he play games every single fucking night, he plays way more games than /v/ does, so yeah sometimes i'm gonna check out his gaming streams to see how combat in a game is
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I appreciate having a ranged damage source that fucks people up and feels like pulling out a gun should.
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>>745855830
It does feel decent. I'm not far in and only found the crossbow as an alternate but it feels solid.
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>>745852939
correct, i earned it
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>Classic knightly armor
>Uses a greatsword in art
>Shoulder bash and riposte focus
>Black and orangish yellow alt color
>Body is protected by a boss called the warden
If it ain't intentional that has to be the funniest set of coincidences in the world
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>Low Test
Proxima players
>Mid Test
Tiel players
>High Test
Laslo players
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>>745856178
Laslo is patrician choice unironically.
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Genessa's faithful doubles have some of the worst AI I've ever seen. Or I'm using them completely wrong somehow. They'll just ignore enemies that are in front of you and run towards shit thats not even on your screen, off in the distance. The grisha summons don't have this problem. Enemies fighting each other don't have this problem. They actually do decent damage when they work but holy fuck is it unreliable. Feels like you're forced to use her stray doubles build.
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>high T
proxima players
>low T
everyone else
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Do you ever get the knight from the prologue back? He was cool. He saved my deadbeat bitch ass and he didn't even need to because you canonically have respawn powers.
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>>745856178
>tfw only unlocked the lil thief nigga so far
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>>745856343
>proxima
>clearly based on HT Geigar's biotech
>sexy Amazon with a gigantic ass
>A cold and focused alien hunter, stabs everything with a DNA sampler, even when she doesn't need to.

Do you think he would have liked Proxima? As clearly a send up to his work. I think he would have wanted her to have visible nopples on her armor and a phallic cod piece or vagina armor but otherwise he would have liked her.
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>>745856202
holy fuck, yeah, I needed to see this.
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>>745855519
It's a bug, when you get de shelled you barely get invincible frames. You got stuck on a second trap that killed your shell but instead if the deshell animation you got the stuck in trap animation which meant you're vulnerable to hits.
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>>745856846
Yeah that doesn't explain the boulder that missed by a mile.
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>>745856921
What is this bait? You stepped into two beartraps in a row.
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>>745856921
If it hit it hit the split second he got hit by the trap
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>feet washer doesnt have a detailed cutscene
will have to give this game a bad review
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>>745851714
We need more lewd proxima mods, also devs need to capitalize on this by asking the artist to make his secret stash of sexy horror costumes available...
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>>745854401
Hey i need that as a special/ash of war
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>>745853837
Ideally, you are constantly attacking and hardening nid attack to hit get a perfect block or at least sneak a hit in after the block and dash out.

One part I struggled with was that I kept just tapping it and the harden disappears the instant you let go. I was thinking there was a few frames to do it and you won't get a perfect if you held the button down. It'd more like the parry in sonic frontiers, as a weird comparison, it can work find holding it down. If you miss the perfect you will at least knock out 1 hit and for normal mods that staggers them.
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>>745857375
Yeah i guess the rest of the devs were like "nope this is too much even for us"
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>>745857956
Harden does seem to be nerfed compared to ms1, it always staggered enemies even if not hardened in a offensive move and your follow up was very fast
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>>745857956
If you get a perfect harden does the cooldown instantly reset?
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How many shells can i try out in the beta/demo whatever this is
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>>745858289
There is only one shell in beta, you get to try the Thiel which is rogue shell
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>>745858432
>>745858289
you start as a different shell though before its taken from you
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>>745852139
>using summon
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>>745857469
Need one that gives her a full helmet and bigger ass
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>>745853837
I think you're supposed to Perfect Harden multiple times. Perfect Harden won't consume your charge.
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How do I get more glimpses? I swear they kind of frontloaded this stuff early game or something because once you get going with exploration it doesn't even feel like you see that shit anymore.
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>>745855958
Maybe i can RAH and become incredibilis in this game
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>>745858950
You get them mostly from cleansing beacons.
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Surely there's a degenerate out there that will make a pregnant Proxima in a slingkini mod...right?
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>>745858678
would not be hard to expand the legs. i was thinking of checking out modding the game so i could look into it
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This game is pretty fun but the enemy variety is SERIOUSLY lacking, feels like there's only a dozen enemy types total. Also I don't understand why poison is so fucking shit, I'm playing Tiel and poison is LITERALLY one damage per tick, losing a stack per tick too. Seems completely worthless except for detonating with that one talent.
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>>745859261
If she's pregnant why would she be wearing a slingkini?
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I always thought the "hold B to sprint" gimmick in Fromsoft games is shit design, but when you put sprint on A, you actually see why Fromsoft did it. It is REALLY hard to pivot the camera and sprint at the same time when the sprint is on A, even with claw grip. Your finger has to stretch so much further. Since you basically never have to emergency swap between sprinting and rolling, the fact that they share a button isn't the biggest deal. Resting your finger on B ends up being a much more comfy hand arrangement.
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>meanwhile average joe casually holding LShift to sprint
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Finished the Forgotten Tower secret and got rewarded with an Active/Passive item. It cures Cosmic Disease and grants mitigation. I don't even recall encountering such a thing yet and im almost done the game.

Also, Old Prisoner corpse disappeared. pic related.
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>>745859325
One anon already made a thicc female Harbinger mod which is awesome, but sadly the animations broke in the update it seems.
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>>745860160
Holding? Why not toggle.
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>>745856626
He would have liker her but he would have altered the design to be even more lewd.

FUCK how much I hate that he's not around now imagine if he had been born a bit later and we could have him designing modern games
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>>745860230
It's for the final boss fight.
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Is there a patch out for pirates yet?
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fuark brehs
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>>745860990
So is that 47% damage reduction? Seems busted.
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>>745861024
might be nigh 100% with maxed out executioner stacks on eredrim
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>>745861024
Yeah, I was mentioning this in another thread. With Proxima's damage mitigation procs you can tank like crazy with some luck. currently 64% from the Moonshine. Playing on Night Mode and I can tank a good bit of hits. I even have the Bulwark tarstone that gives damage reduction on kill for a duration. I just sprint in and kill something fast, no regard for my safety, just swinging a chainsaw scythe which deals 35% damage each tick. The tick amount depends on what im hitting and how its getting hit. Sometimes 1 swing takes almost 2 seconds to fully swing because its stuck ticking dealing 2-3 swings worth of damage in a single attack. I fucking love this thing.
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how much unique stuff is there to be found in playing hard mode? it seem pretty brutal so I don't know if I want to bother with it if the reward isn't proportional
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>>745861465
I haven't found any "come back here at night" hints aside from the one in the mushroom village so I haven't been using nightmode at all.
I'm booting up the game now so I'm gonna go nightmode and check out the tutorial area and see if anything is different.
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>>745860261
based. i wanted to sexualize the harbinger
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>>745861670
Pretty sure there are only three must be night mode spots. The forgotten tower where you use all the glands you collect in three of the big dungeons, mushroom village, and the merchant at the camp. Other than that it's just the glimpses that spawn near where you found every shell.
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>>745860990
>>745861024
>>745861439
It's not 1 moonshine equals 1%, you silly billies.

I've got 70 weltcaps and they sure as shit don't regen me to 70% health when I put them in the passive slot. It's more like 40%. The moonshine is the same.
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>>745861670
You can't return to the tutorial area.
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>>745861804
Even if it's half getting something like 25% damage reduction feels huge.
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>>745861804
exactly I was gonna say that, it scales def different, maybe its 0.1 per bottle, so 50 moonshines is 5% prob or it scales differently but def not 50%
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>>745852354
I don't know why you're buying this shit, basically every Souls game cucks out and nerfs everything in the first week, I've just started pirating them instead to play the real game
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>>745850514
its not trying to be a souls-game more like parry-slop game tacked onto a game like Shadow of Mordor/War. oh yeah, peak update the Windows 11 problem with the Easy Anti Cheat not functioning in 11 can be combated through making it launch in "Windows Vista" version. like holy fuck I hate Tim Sweeney so much and Microsoft for ruining the gaming ecosystem by binding games into this god-awful anti-cheat that plagues souls-likes.
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>>745861730
>>745860261
is it uploaded?
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>>745861868
I think what happens is it gets added to the percentage of the 2nd tier at a dramatically reduced rate. So the 2nd tier weltcaps regens you to 35%, and I've got twice as much as 35, but I'm only seeing like a 5% extra gain.
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>Isaac's second phase
Does the game really expect the player to be able to parry all that?
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You guys are wrong. The Grisha Remnant can become 100% and it's worded the same fucking way.
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>>745854401
>WIIIIILLS UNBENDING
>FAAAAITH UNENDING
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>>745862314
You should try equipping the Skill Seal, it makes a big difference.
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Roll slop
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>>745863304
Umm akshually it's a bloodborne style dodge not a roll.
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>>745862338
Weltcaps say otherwise.
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>>745852408
Because a few enemies and a couple of standout bosses getting nerfed barely changes the experience.
The game is already a joke once you get enough Shell Points and if you're using either the Axe and Dagger or the Axatana. Unless you're beelining to activate Night Mode immediately and play on it from level 1 the game, like every Soulslike, is nowhere near as difficult as people make it out to be.
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>>745863973
>either the Axe and Dagger or the Axatana
Why?
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>>745864178
NTA but they're fast and can use the most busted tarstone in the game, the one that lets every hit of your light attack combo count as two hits.
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>>745864178
>The ability tarstones for both weapons give massive amounts of iframes
>Since the developers are a mixture of Slavs and Burgers, Resolve gain is based on the number of weapon hits rather than based on the amount of damage done
> as a result fast weapons naturally are just better for spamming anything requiring Resolve while slow weapons just get fucked for no real reason
>add really good shell abilities like Biosampler into the mix for guaranteed staggers when you need it

They didn't really balance this game.
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>>745850514
Can't decide if I like this or Wuchang better. I'm just happy that my favorite genre is getting so many good games. Souls chads will inherit the world.
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>>745864440
I like both, though I'm kind of partial to combat systems with no stamina systems these days.
It's still crazy to me that FROMSoft perfected the gameplay style with Sekiro but then regressed for Elden Ring. Still great games but the only flaw I could find with Sekiro was lack of weapon variety and ARPG elements.
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How do we show this man overcoming his inner demons for the woman he loves? Maybe he fights a corrupted version of himself? Shadowy figures of his inner doubts?
>massive fuckoff potion that flails at you because drugs
Well, it certainly gave me a double take.
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What does the cursed child actually do? It doesn't seem to do any damage or break damage, the only observable effect to me seems to be a small amount of pushback.
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So when using permapunch mode for Smert you can't use any charged attacks or weapon infusions?
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>>745864535
You want ARPG elements but dislike stamina? "How physically fit is your character" as measured by stats like endurance, and meters like stamina, is an inseparable part of ARPG gameplay. That green bar is a huge part of what defines build variety in these RPGs, especially at lower levels, where the tradeoff between HP, stamina, and damage is very pronounced. Like, in DS3, you have to make huge compromises in the early/mid game of a spellcaster run between damage-per-spell and volume-of-spells because of how you need to level both blue and green bars. Especially for pyromancies which are stamina hogs. That may not matter for the SL125 pvp bracket but it matters a lot in your journey to that endpoint.
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>>745864835
nta but stamina is gay
simple as
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>>745864835
For the record, I don't dislike stamina constraints, but if these games are going to lean more and more towards Action games, removing stamina (except for blocking, as in Sekiro and MS2) makes more sense to me to keep the pace of the combat going.
Stamina I like more when the game is focusing on being a classic dungeon crawler with more of a focus upon RPG elements and a more deliberate pace to match it. In this case the stamina management reinforces the combat being deliberate.
tl;dr Depends on the game for me. I like stamina in the older Souls games when they weren't trying to be more like typical hack and slashes.
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>>745855142
>How filtered will he be?
Asmongold finished Sekiro which is an astronomically harder game than mortal shell 2
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>>745864814
Yes, but you don't need them. Just get the stagger buff perk and laugh as bosses literally fall before you.
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>>745864778
It's a curse applicator and summoning device when you get the tarstones for those.
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>>745865108
Is the low FPS due to the webm quality or is the guy recording playing on a potato?
That's hilarious, though.
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>>745864980
IMO the reason Elden Ring falls flat isn't because it leans too hard into being an action game. The legacy dungeons in Elden Ring are unironically the best dungeon crawling in the entire genre. It falls flat because
>Every enemy attack has a 50% chance to combo into another attack, so in practical terms you never know when it's safe to swing back unless you wait for a tiny handful of moves or do very specific actions to stay safe, which gets old very fast to figure out through trial and error
>Dodge timings and attack animations that are designed to be as dishonest as possible and be the opposite of what your intuition says should be right, which makes them aggravating to learn
>Overreliance on "dude how is balance even real dude just respec into the boss's kryptonite and kill him in 5 hits or just level [insert overpowered weapon here]" as a band aid to the game being so bloated with such a schizo difficult curve that it's impossible to balance
All of these things would still be problems with and without a stamina bar desu
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>>745865346
It's probably the result of me telling my webm converter to compress the fuck out of the video so I could fit it on 4chan.
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>>745865421
>All of these things would still be problems with and without a stamina bar desu
True though I think Elden Ring would've benefitted greatly from the lessons they learned in Sekiro. People complain about Soulslikes being rollslop, but Sekiro already solved this conundrum (and later Lies of P copied it) by making every defensive move valuable depending on the attack you're facing. Dodge, block (and perfect block AKA deflect), running away, and even jumping all get use and some attacks are easier to respond to depending on what you use.
I get they were already neck deep in Elden Ring's development when they were working on Sekiro, though, and Miyazaki mentioned that if he could have a do-over he would've incorporated more from Sekiro into ER. The halfhearted attempt by adding the deflect tear into the DLC doesn't quite cut it for me.
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He... he looks like me.. He's built like me... I... thank you #RepresentationMatters #MS2
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>>745865108
you didn't beat the game
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>>745865976
Based. Discord modders and Predditors getting the rep they desire.
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>>745865976
He looks like Baron
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>lost child
man this thing sucks
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>>745866392
Or do you suck?
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Once I finish the game I think I'm just gonna hack glimpses so I can play with all the shells on NG+. It doesn't seem worth grinding for.
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>>745866020
But I did. I used Smert and the Grisha stone. That's what total chud victory looks like.
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>>745867107
>Once I finish the game
Lol, I did it first thing. I noticed that glimpses don't do anything besides unlocking shell stories and so I was like "Fuck grinding, I want to see their stories as I find them".
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>>745866916
nah it was definitely the boss
raped it one shot btw
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Watched some gameplay vids on twitter and crazy how fucking busted buff stacking is. It took me a couple of assclenching hours smashing my face on a wall fighting droeg the conqueror then some guy just spams light attack on him using axe and dagger with duality and bleed and he fucking dies in seconds before he can even spam his bullshit homing skull attack.
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>he almost killed me with his death animation where the sword falls into the ground
okay, that's just funny, dick ass devs
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>>745867707
it also happens with droeg>>745867540
some of his skulls will just decide to explode around him, enough to immediately break your shell.
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They really need to buff triarch repeater. It deals less dps than the caged hysterix but also requires to do a stupid spin before firing which makes it incredibly clunky to use in fights.
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Finally, a good body reshape. Not that kind of fucking BBW shape https://www.nexusmods.com/mortalshell2/mods/94
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>feeding room
Wait am o doing wrong? I just want a the dagger hammer for Christ's sake
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I'm playing the first game and it pretty shit. Combat is slow and floaty, parry is inconsistent, only heal is mushrooms. If I was more patient I'd probably be more forgiving but I don't have time for this tech demo shit.
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>>745868260
Now give it a bigger butt
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It's too big.
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>kill the fat lady of the swamp
>big fat fucking open ended paths
>dick around, get lost, end up in a slum village
>the fucking well dungeon
i haven't been shit on by a game in a long time.
my damage was ok, but i died a billion times and the whole thing was capped by 2 grishas and i ended up trying out the slayer seal
am i underleveled for the area or what? the fact that i had to fight 2 of them whereas i didn't even find the singular makes me think so.
i'm still on the OG patch tho
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>>745869395
using map, your progression is from top to bottom
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>>745869537
i did something like this i think.
first part was ok, but since i got the maker's breath and i could break down the black walls i got a bit lost
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what's the use case for gragu? i've been using eredrim for a good long while now and I enjoy his shoulder tackle but i'm kind of thinking of switching shells to shake things up a bit and i'm currently torn between smert or gragu
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>Can't even unlock Proxima in the demo
so why does she even look like that
is she actually a sorceress and all that metal is just grafted onto her skin to let her electrocute niggas or what
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>>745869780
She's an ayy.
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>>745869780
shes just a super thick alien baddie, dog
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>>745869858
what, is she the Mether's cousin or something
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>>745869776
Gragu is just better Eredrim that retards underestimated until people started beating the game. I'd pick someone else to mix it up unless you really like charging up Y again
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The first game is awful and I beat Bleak Faith and Hellpoint. Second game looks cool but I won't play it without beating the first and I will not continue the first any longer.
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>745870050
thats cool man
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>>745869780
She's basically a predator. Her biosampler thing is basically a alien probe.
>>745869912
Not really but the setting has a bunch of aliens.
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>>745869780
she's an alien and the armor is indeed grafted onto her body. I think it's implied that it's like cyborg power armor of some kind
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I wonder how much damage those crabs are doing to do if they all hit you at once (they will try)
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>female Harby mod is outdated already
>the Anon who made it probably bounced already and moved on to other things
My AGP is ruffled.
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>>745870546
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>>745852364
>>745852445
Go to the blood-soaked gate north of you next.
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>>745868206
But it's fun and satisfying.
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>>745850514
>how do we cope with the fact this this is better than any Souls game ever made?
Stamina bar ...
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The first game sucked so much I never bothered. Fucking unreal asset flip with no design.
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>>745855519
>steps in one beartrap
>doesn't learn the lesson, steps in another one
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>>745869395
>kill the fat lady of the swamp
>>big fat fucking open ended paths
>>dick around, get lost, end up in a slum village
That doesn't sound right. After you kill her, there's a beacon that you cleanse, then you get teleported back to the Keep.
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>>745870953
This game is way better. At least before you start cheesing it with the OP stuff. A naked run would be hard as fuck, though.
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>>745870953
>posted it again award
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So is the mammon bloodline all just fat fucks?
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>>745870982
i mean yeah, but after that i wasn't sure where to go.
see >>745869775
basically after my visit to the keep i ended up at the one-legged wolf beacon and kinda meandered around until i ended up back to widow's overlook.

on the way there i freed a grisha puppy, talked to the guy in a soup bowl and did that god-forsaken well dungeon
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>>745871243
Take your meds.
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I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS
FYUKING NIGGERSS
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>>745871253
Ah. Well there's no beacons in that top right part of the map. You want to head for the cliffside structure that's to the 2 o'clock of what you've labeled "gate 1".
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>>745871303
Eh, maybe tomorrow.
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>>745871253
Wait I meant after you go to that structure
(the tavern), you keep heading east to the edge.
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>>745871367
>>745871412
lovely, thanks

also, is it just me or everything being tied to resolve is kind of a bummer?

>shell ability, gun, buffs etc
since i started the game i've barely used anything but the gun.
does the resolve economy get better later?
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>>745871465
as you spend glimpses to upgrade your shells, you can unlock perks to make their abilities cheaper; though proxima's, for example, is on the first tier.
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>>745871465
Once you get the lathe you can upgrade sidearms. Each upgrade not only ups the damage but reduces how much Resolve it uses per shot. There's also some tarstones that lean into ranged damage if you like.
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>level 37
>only 22 points
this is so fucking lame, man
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>>745871465
The best way to use resolve will change as you play and unlock new abilities, sidearms and weapon tarstones. I was thinking like you until I got Tiel and figured the most efficient use of resolve was shadow strike. Then I unlocked the forgotten crossbow and was like "this is actually worth using for those flying enemies". So now I had two different uses for it. Then I got Gragu and he has a skill that refunds resolve for any kill made with a ranged weapon. That meant I could afford to start using resolve for weapon infusions.

I still think infusions could have better been a consumable resource like in most souls games, though.
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I've been stuck for 8 hours now on Nameless Captive. I don't understand why this boss is so much harder than anything else in the game so far. Previous bosses were pushovers
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>>745871665
just parry/harden nigga
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>>745871656
once maxed you don't even have to turn them on, they're just always on
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>>745871594
I just hacked the shit out of my shell points because I got tired of refunding and re-spending them for each shell. I'm OP now. Not sure if it was worth it.
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>>745871712
Yeah, so that in turn means you can use resolve for those special melee attacks.
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>find Smert
>holy shit this dude is cool
>can't invest in him because already put my glimpse stonks into Proxima
Sucks that these are limited. Like surely there must be like a high level enemy somewhere that drops these, no? I don't even need it to have a high drop rate. Also I don't know if it is just my luck but beacons seems to appear less and less the more I move away from the middle area and half the ones I do find doesn't need to be cleansed so fuck me I guess.
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>>745871665
See >>745865108
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>>745850514
How's the exploration and level design? I swear if it's another boss rush disguised as a soulslike....
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>>745871796
Beacons are actually pretty evenly spread once you unlock them all. They're never more than a 2 minute run from each other. It just seems harder to reach them in the south because the enemies are harder.
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up ahead is definitely safe and enemy free
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>>745871796
what they should have done is let you pick one in the beginning so you don't have to invest in someone you don't want to play, then have the rest unlock as normal
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>>745850514
Does it have the same dumb harden mechanic from the first game?
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>>745853131
damn new ass creed looking good!
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>>745871917
That ruins the early game rush to find one. Just make glimpse pick ups way more abundant. Like 3x more.
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>Proxima died to this shitty bug that doesn't do anything
LOL what a jobber
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>>745872057
Best death is Smert.
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>>745872057
Who said aliens had to be smart?
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>>745871931
it has elden ring ashes of war
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None said all aliens should be smart.

Just the ones that master interstellar travel.
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>>745872108
I never figured out how those worked.
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>>745872179
Proxima's first memory is of having crashed her ship kek
Master of interstellar travel? yeah right.
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I want Proxima to extract my specimen if you catch my drift
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>>745872372
Her probe would puncture your nutsack and suck it out directly.
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>>745872220
you equip them on weapon then spam L2
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Soulsfriends are eating good lately.
The first game being so rough made me doubtful it would even get a sequel. But holy shit did they improve compared to the first game. Maybe that EGS money really did help.
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first boss that has killed me since the the first area although I whooped him right after.
Got too cocky; these late game guys can smash you into Harbinger form in like one hit
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>>745872658
Why are we killing these people, anyway?
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>>745872791
they stole all the eggs so we can't make her eat all the eggs
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>check infusion tarstones level 1 and 2
>pretty sensible
>level 3, permanent
kek, that jump
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>>745869776
At a minimum he's one of if not the best exploration shell just because he can regen heals off of kills and even if he does get severed the harbinger still gets the full stock of normal heals. Do not underestimate his punch, that shit knocks down anything short of actual giant bosses(ie: the lost child) so getting them into death loops is super easy. Technically he also has the bleed/anti-bleed synergy but as the other anon said he really is another shell that wants you to be spending the majority of your resolve on his shell active skill.
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Is leech bugged? I keep seeing it flicker between what I assume the max stacks are of 200 and an ever growing number that just crossed 1000
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>>745872987
It is weird and nobody knows how it works.
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>>745872908
It really does feel like the devs were balancing based purely off vibes alone. "What would be cool?"
I kind of dig it.
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Killed hexapod, after this there is a gate I didn't walk through in the abbey yet and one down south I haven't reached yet. Are those the last two in the game? I did all the northern ones.
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>>745872021
I think it would be better to implement a respec/refund system
you can smelt weapons to reset them to 0 and refund materials, you can refund shell points, etc.
makes no sense for glimpses to not be refundable
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>>745873083
Yeah thats kind of my issue IDK if its giving me just a little bit of extra safety or crutch amounts of extra HP. I still have death looming over my head at times so its not an insane amount but the bonus HP has for sure saved my life a few times
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>>745873638
That's dumb for glimpses in particular because it's just busywork. Let us unlock all the shell stories faster. Ideally as fast as the shells are found. That improves the sense of plot development and encourages experimenting with the shells as you find them.
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>>745873653
You'll naturally be cycling through the tarstones to upgrade them all. Enjoy the vague effects of the leech stone while it lasts. You won't look back once you get the double attack stone for the axe and katana.
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>>745873731
true actually
then yeah I think making them a drop or at least letting you buy them from merrick or something would be ideal
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>what if we made king thwomp but also gave him a big swinging nutsack
>and then after you go and fight a big dragon by repeatedly stabbing him in his nutsack
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>what if we take the first game and just copy paste everything 100 times over
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>>745873798
Just let us accumulate XP with the shells by playing with them. Temper them at breakpoints for memories.
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>>745871534
>proxima
guess i'll go get her.
everyone keeps talking about how good she is. not even a coomer

>>745871656
>refunds resolve for any kill made with a ranged weapon
cool. nice way to encourage use of guns for 1shotting or finishing off enemies
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>>745873638
Or they could've at least doubled the amount of glimpses you get in the game or something.
Right now the amount you receive is really criminal, feel bad for the guys who spent them on locating Shells.
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what do they eat?
>>745874538
they got refunded as it costs gloom now, which was a great change
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>>745873864
That sounds like a good idea.
>shell builds XP and levels, hits a ceiling which is tied to the shell point tiers
>temper by spending glimpses+gold/gloom to unlock next tier
>balance the glint cost for tempering to make it so you can max at least the majority of shells in a playthrough, combine this with a shell point rework that gives each shell an individual point pool to play with you so you need to refund and respend when equipping a new shell
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Alright yeah this is the exact kind of jank I was looking for thanks gragu
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I don't care if Gragu is better, I'm going to play generic knight man Eredrim and like it.
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Smert is fun but when fighting crowds I have a lot of trouble with fistmode on so I'm just using Axe & Dagger. He absolutely clowns on bosses but these southern enemies still just completely fuck me up when they're all rushing and overlapping attacks between my timestops.
Once I've got his tier 4 unlocked I'm gonna track down Genessa, her shadow clone stuff seems really cool.
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>>745871779
>you died
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>oh nice you can refund mats and gold you upgrade weapons with at a cost
>+16 weapon costs 55k to refund
nigga
what
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I explored the whole map to get everything before doing any of the gates so to avoid being overpowered and to grind tarstone xp I'm doing them with the shells/weapons you find nearby and/or ones that got cool tarstones in the previous gate
It seems kind of ridiculous that the axe has a crazy ranged attack and can also apply curse
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>>745875060
i heard genessa got issue with her abilities atm
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>>745875042
Just have fun.
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>>745875060
If you get overwhelmed as Smert, freeze time then hit each person 20 or so times before backing off and restarting.
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>>745875085
>Playing pirated copy.
They patched the smelting cost to be easier, like everything else.
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>>745875123
>I explored the whole map to get everything before doing any of the gates so to avoid being overpowered
You need to do one of the gates to unlock fast travel and make the tarstones upgradable. Also you've just made yourself overpowered for the boss gates anyway.
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>>745875212
you do realize you can patch a pirated copy, right? I don't patch because they gutted enemies and bosses on top of the other changes
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>>745875249
I did the first one because it was in the demo already
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>>745875263
what a fucking faggot you are anon
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>pirate game
>see official update, seems like sensible stuff
>supposedly you can pirate the updates, but the downloads don't seem to be working for me
anyone else tried this?
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>Gragu's alt color/shade doesn't come with an on-color option for the helmet
It makes sense since its considered a mask but man thats lame as hell
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>>745875372
nta but I pirated it because I don't want slavs to have money
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>>745875042
everyone thought Eredrim was better at first, and a lot still do. He's probably better still if you're not so good at the game because he's tankier, ends up with better heals (when you have 8 regular eventually), and doesn't have to recharge to fight a boss he died on
>>745875263
still in the tutorial, huh? Don't worry, when you get out of it the patch only has good changes
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>>745875393
i got it off cs rin without any trouble yesterday
i agree that the changes are sensible and i had already killed the 2 nerfed bosses so w/e
Problem is that people report that the game is crashing a lot more with the patch, its not happening to me but keep it in mind

>>745875424
i pirated it myself i was calling him a faggot for his coping ass lying post
dude has a +16 weapon and is concerned that the game nerfed 2 bosses that he has already killed and 3 bitch ass random mobs while taking a huge step on fixing game economy
that guy has no idea how to patch his game until somebody uploads it to a torrent site
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>>745875521
>nerfed 2 bosses that he has already killed
stupid fucking retard they nerfed the last boss as well
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Wait a minute, this game is mid as fuck
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>>745875521
I don't know how to patch the game without an uploaded torrent :(
I just want the stability fixes....
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>>745875521
mmm, i'm trying with these elamigos stuff.
i mean, the downloads work fine, but when i try to apply the patch it doesn't do anything.
the filechecker thing doesn't seem to find the required files despite them being there.

i'll try again, if not maybe i can ask if you could share the update files you used?
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>>745851450
>nerfed all the bosses and enemies
Good.
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Dev surely smoked something when making those movement, lock-in and camera
>instead your MC rotates and walk toward camera when you push analog down, character walks backward
>game tries to do soft lock-in whenever you just trying to swing freely
>when you lock-in, camera somehow takes time to readjust itself
>oh, want to lock-in to nearest target ? lemme lock-in the distance one instead
>combat happens on the slope terrain
>the hitboxes ignore the terrain, plus camera still behave like you on flat area
>every single of cinematic attacks
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How's the gore?
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>>745875545
yeah, his HP because it was bloated as fuck you stupid ass bitch. You're still going to die in one hit to him and seethe on Reddit about it, retard
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>>745875603
You probably DL'd a virus.
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>>745875641
Camera is so weird in this game that im not even sure if half the issues im having with it are from the game or from my controller being old and busted
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So how much glimpses do we get? I kinda want to try out fist-only with smert but I heard glimpses aren't unlimited
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>>745875764
you'll max two out before endgame's last stage, 3 if you comb the map 100%
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>>745875587
ofc
also the seal remover is out
https://www.nexusmods.com/mortalshell2/mods/102
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>>745875759
Just get a new controller with HE or TMR sticks.
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>>745875694
It's like Gears of War 1. Enemies dismember, split in half, bleed a lot, and explode. If you are wearing a white robe, it can become slick with red blood.
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>>745875808
>also the seal remover is out
Aw fuck, i have to make a new version of the meme now. Thank you tho
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So I've cleared out most of the northern map and unlocked row 4 of Proxima's passives
But now if I want to try out a new shell, among the five I've found, I kinda need to unlock their 4th row as well, for them not to feel like shit

But that's gonna take fucking forever, probably by the end of the game, just feels super dumb
I already got 4th row on one, so it's not like it's a balancing issue of me getting over leveled. Why can't I have it on another?
If the shells were starting classes, and demanded for a new playthrough to play as a different shell- this would make sense
But the game gives every impression of wanting us to play as different shells and swap between them. Which just doesn't seem to be functional in practice

Why the fuck does the skill point stay in one shell when I switch to another? Are they fucking think I'm going to divide them between 2 shells, when I can refund them with one button press?
This is just a hassle, forcing me to take the skill points in and out whenever I switch shells
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>>745875861
Hack your glimpses.
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>>745875791
Alright I might hold on then, I think gragu is gonna be one of my main dudes so I'll max him out first and decide on smert and potentially lazlo later
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>>745875587
>is woke truly over?
https://x.com/MortalShellGame/status/1267879584701100033
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>no jumping
>no attack canceling
>magnetic hostile attacks with perfect tracking
Is this the souls-like experience I keep hearing about?
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>>745875753
eh, i did get it from cs rin.
i'll still run a scan.
i'll try one last time, worst case scenario i might live with it, or god forbid, BUY the game
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>>745875935
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>>745875830
Nice. Lords of the Fallen 2 (3) will have dismemberment too, so hopefully other soulslikes will copy them.
>>745875939
>no jumping
Good, jumping in Elden Ring looks ridiculous.
>no attack canceling
Good, actions have consequences.
>magnetic hostile attacks with perfect tracking
Bad.
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>>745875968
there were people in cs rin talking about having to add 2 lines or something like that with one of the patchers? just give the thread a read over see if it helps
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>Charlie liked it and made a video
>already higher CCU than Lies of P so the sales must be good
>now it's going to get even more
Shazamposters lost. Pack it up. Back to the 'cord and refocus on GTA. You lost this one.
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>>745875935
aaaaaaand dropped
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>>745876045
Man I hope the Leekbros will leak GTA VI ahead of release. Really take the thunder out of it.
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>>745876092
I doubt it. Then they can't grift money
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>>745851354
>retarded difficulty like lies of p
wut?
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>>745875808
Good. Now I just need a hyper ass Proxima mod
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>>745876194
Why do people keep saying this? How big are we even talking?
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>>745876226
BIGGER
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>>745876045
>sales must be good
That's a shame, it means the price will barely get down during Steam sales like Baldur's Gate 3 and Expedition 33.
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>>745876226
At least this big
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beat the first one, final boss was easy af. will probably get this game when it also goes on sale for 5 bucks
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>>745850514
what am I in for?
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>slowly refills health based on weltcaps found
I got 77 of them and I don't get more than 1/3 of my life back
probably means that the moonshine damage reduction is pretty shit as well
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>>745876434
>5 bucks
>>745876292
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>>745853131
>hitstops
>slowdowns
>janky animations
Just like every souls slop game. Atrocity.
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>>745876472
If I get that can I play the original version before the baby nerfs? I want to actually beat the game
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>>745876472
>15Mb/s
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>>745876130
its by far hardest souls cone i played, only game where i had to replay final bosses a dozen times, and then there is the dlc
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Is Rukh just the bird or also the skull in his mouth
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>>745876497
Monster Hunter has all of that too.
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>>745876504
Yes, it's not patched.
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so does anyone have that mod that sexualizes the harbinger?
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>>745876473
You could back up your save, then test out giving yourself 1000 weltcaps and seeing if that does anything.
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>>745876514
There aren't enough seeders to max out my bandwidth anon, it's not my fault
>>745876504
I actually would prefer the baby nerfs, I can't really be fucked to get repeatedly gaped for muh prepare to die hardcoer dark souls epic gamer experience, but I will put up with it if the game is good
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If nothing else I do appreciate that NPCs do react to some extent to the shells you wear around them. Like I wasn't expecting to have the nameless disciple at marrow keep suddenly loredump me on his backstory when I brought smert home. Makes each of them feel more part of the world.
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>>745851005
>AI slop
Nigger Vitaly Bulgarov is the game director
If u dont know he is u ought to stfu
https://vitalybulgarov.com/
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>>745876258
Requires impregnation immediately
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>Nexus mod made Proxima's alien head look a little less alien
>Added jiggle physics to fuckin metal body armor
one step forward two steps back
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>Bing Bing Wahoo boss
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where's the key to this crypt?
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>>745850514
is there a waifu? if no waifu no buy
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>>745877157
There's anything worthwhile in the crypt. Ignore if you dont have the key already.
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>>745876258
>>745877198
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Is there a big frog in this game like the first one?
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Just beat the game, I'd say it was a 7/10 experience overall.
>Pros
Fun as fuck exploration and combat, weapons, sidearms and character abilities are all unique.
Lots of enemy designs and cool bosses
>Cons
Bugs, pretty inconsistent balance and slightly too much HP on some bosses and enemies.
Lots of weapons never get used because you're so limited by money and upgrade materials you can only really max a single weapon.

Interestingly I felt the fast weaspons hit basically as hard as the slow ones, making them way better. Is that just me or anybody else felt so?
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>>745851354
>like it or not there are dozens of soul clones, ones that have 10x better gameplay
They should be, that's how things improve and get better.
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I can't wait for waifutards to get NTR'd by based shopkeeper man
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>Ravaged Grisha Twins
How the fuck are you supposed to fight both in this small arena
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>there is some kind of textile printing facility here that is making skull print fabrics
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>>745877157
Here.
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>>745877316
Yes. It's the same frog, in fact.
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>>745877406
I dunno, maybe stop time, then punch one of them 100 times, summoning 30 of your own grisha?
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me when I see a big frog
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>>745877328
>the fast weaspons hit basically as hard as the slow ones
what slow weapons? Everything feels the same
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>>745877560
You can stop time? I'm level 10
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>>745877328
Slow weapons got access to other tearstones like the throw weapon stuff etc which are pretty strong and useful
but in terms of melee normal hits fast weapons are way stronger
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>>745877198
there's also a masked girl who gets her tits out when you get knocked down instead of turning back into the harbinger
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>>745877697
>there's also a masked girl who gets her tits out when you get knocked down instead of turning back into the harbinger
what
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devs have a fucking explosive barrel fetish, it's just everywhere all the time
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>>745877406
i used a slightly upgraded proxima to stun/slow and knock them both down over and over by spamming her ability that makes her immune to stagger and take 50% less damage
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>>745877732
why can you not target the barrels with the right stick when enemies are around?
free aim sucks
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>>745877732
it's mostly early game but I agree
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>>745877732
>didn't even kill the archer
I thought ranged enemies must be weaker than melee ones but rusnigs just think different
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>>745877776
you can
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>>745877646
One of the shells (Smert) has Za Warudo as a skill. They can stop time and punch the shit out of anything, at the cost of half their health.
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>>745877732
it wouldnt be so bad if they didnt instantly and unconditionally fuck your shit up
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>>745877869
i could only lock onto barrels when no enemies are near
it will rotate between the enemies and ignore the barrels
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>>745877729
this was literally the best picture i could find i haven't unlocked her yet but she take her cloak off and gets angry
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>buy game
>start download
>realise it's going to be an irritating slog
>refund and cancel download
I need to stop doing this
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>>745878076
I play for 10 hours and then quit at least you got your money back
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>>745878076
>be retarded
>retardation runs wild
sounds awful, my condolences
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>>745877491
thanks
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>it didn't do phase 2, it just stayed alive at 1 hp until I let it kill me
lame, one of my first bugs
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1050ti bros, we fkn play!
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>>745878393
he would be retarded if he didn't refund
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Playing Tiel felt like cheating. Constantly in the shadows assassinating enemies with insane back attack crits. I really enjoyed stealth in this game, felt impactful and fun. Too bad it seems to be bugged because enemies just keep attacking in your direction
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>>745851450
I think it was just the early bosses that got nerfed. Mobs are the real threat anyway and can 2-shot you.
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>>745851828
2 early game bosses were slightly nerfed, and a bunch of the very strong early game mobs were justifiably nerfed. And they made some weaker tarstones better. Makes total sense to me.
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>>745879148
>>745879258
Monolith, one of the most annoying end game bosses got a big nerf
what are you on about
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>>745879084
it's intended, they're looking for you. If you stealth out of sight, they don't swing at you until you hit them
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>>745853837
Harden works great when you wanna spam your attacks since it works mid attack animation. Ideally you whack a guy while perfect hardening to blender them. Great for slower weapons where you get stuck in long attack animations.
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>>745879298
>big nerf
>some hp
>still attacks as fast as before, still does as much damage
did you even beat him? Let's see your achivement
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>>745879497
anyone complaining hasn't actually done that fight yet. They made it so you have to do 5 rotations of its mechanic instead of 6, which is still more than most bosses
and it's still a gay fight
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some of the visuals in this game is honestly fucking sick. You could tell the devs were inspired by rock album covers and 80s scifi.
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>>745879497
>Let's see your achivement
lol
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>>745879748
oh ok, you didn't even fight him like I said. Thanks for confirming, thirdie.
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>>745879084
Stealth being impossible unless you play Teil was gay. I didn't like how the game has no backstab mechanic.
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>>745879771
if that makes you happy
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>>745879605
That is one big ass.
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>>745850514
It's the first time a soulslike has soul.
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>watch a review
>constant praising of no actual substance
>yet the only actual feature that get highlighted is the lack of a stamina bar

Really? Is this all it takes for people to lose their shit for a yet another souls game?
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>>745879810
exposing people LARPing as 'hardcore' when they haven't even killed the boss in question does make me happy, yes. Thanks for asking.
When you get to him, you'll probably understand why they tapped him the way they did and not the other harder bosses in the area.
IF you get there (unlikely)
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>>745880026
you sound fat
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I farmed 50 grisha remnants
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Watch and learn brethers
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>>745852993
I think at this point souls clones can still be somewhat fresh it's just more dependent on artstyle and environment design over gameplay. I don't get why all these indie clones wanna copy not only the gameplay experience but also the atmosphere and aesthetics of souls games too, just do something completely different and people will be drawn to it just for the novelty
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>last boss jumps around 50000 feet so you have to chase him around
FUN, just like monster hunter!
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>>745879605
this looks completely devoid of any visual creativity what are you on about. How many times before have we seen fucking floating blocks like that in video games? there is absolutely nothing about this screenshot that screams originality to me. Not to hate on the game but that is just a truly awful example
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>>745850514
This is as much of a soulslike as Sekiro was, at least this game has combat variety.
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so what does the slayer amulet do exactly?
is it just easy mode or is it some alternative path?
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>>745879073
>1050ti
Damn, is it that well optimized? Steam says minimum is a RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB or AMD Radeon RX 6600.
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>>745879605
This game looks like someone prompted AI to create a game about Zanzibart and Myrmidon of Loss
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The big giant npc egon or whatever in the castigator castle is bugged right? Giving him gloom returns 2x to you with a max of 10k
However if you give me any number less than 10k everything doubles once you give him 10k? I just got 40k
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>>745878005
This is an enemy, no?
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>that last boss
shit was so gay, taking a point away for that
7/10, pretty good, stop making godawful last bosses
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>An abbey that is home to a sisterhood of warriors and is covered in red flowers

Isn't this wholesale lifted from Lords of the Fallen? Not to say that LotF invented those elements, but all of them being true at the same time is a bit funny. Not a dig against the game btw, I just found it pretty amusing how blatant it is.
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>>745881676
the dragon? lmao you just have to avoid his fire slam thing at 50% health and ~20% health. he doesnt even hit you if you hug his testies
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>>745880359
it's the game's central themes. It reminds me of surrealist painters like zdzislaw beksinski. Besides scorn and wuchang's final area, I want to see more of it in games.
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>>745881850
Probably not the red flower thing, but an order of warrior nuns is a pretty common trope in fantasy. Although the sisterhood here reminds me of the ones from the dune novels, the honored matres.
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>boy, i'm down to half-health and a single heal, i hope i don't run into bullshit
>mfw king's crypt or whatever it's called with a bajillion traps, kamizaze guys out the wazoo and a couple of big guys with the halberd

also, whoever put the item that teleports you to gay baby jail on the other side of the map, fuck you
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>>745880035
>exposing people
>on an anonymous basketweaving forum
lol
lmao even
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>>745881850
I'm pretty sure that place is meant to be a homage to lords.
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>>745882290
>it's still mad hours later
lol
lmao even
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>>745882347
*farts loudly in your face*
Heh... now what, dork?
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>>745882340
looks more like something melania related to me
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>>745882484
>now it's RPing its fetish
lol
lmao even
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I think I finished the first legion(half the game)
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>>745882484
>>745882573
You're both useless faggots.
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>>745882643
turn both your monitors on, lil bro
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>>745879605
Fat ass. I will now buy the game.
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I dont want to die to another random barrel explosion
Plz no more
Please
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>>745881625
thats genessa
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>>745883539
Maybe stop hitting the barrels?
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So the corrupted gates (just reached the first one) are the dungeons that progress the story/open new zones?
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>>745883947
I think after the first one you can progress in whatever order you want, you just need the ability to cleanse corrupted bullshit that walls off the paths out of the starting area.
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>>745883947
Yep.
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>>745884027
>>745884034
ty
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>hexopod is a relatively easy boss moveset wise but every hit is a 1 hit kill at lv35
Why do they balance shit like this. 1 hit kos aren't fun. At least leave more room for errors goddamn.
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>>745884027
I was able to cleanse the south gate on the tower immediately.
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>>745884117
You made a lot of errors if you let yourself get hit.
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I wish we could hang skill issue poster upside down by the balls from lamp posts
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>>745884178
>that's still a pretty shitty way to go about things. Why even have hp at that point when most things, especially mid-late game kills you in 1-2 hits anyway. This is probably the only soulslike where I think the RPG aspect is almost completely tacked on so much so that they didn't even bother with a stat system.
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>>745884117
Not one of these souls clone games I've have struck a happy medium with damage, Fromsoft also fucks it up often enough as well. Since I realized Bloodborne emulates really well I've been going through it with my first proper playthrough and man a lot of shit is just unfair.
I'm looking forward to playing LotF2023 after this and seeing if they figured it out or not.
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>>745884117
the 1 hits are fine. the devs want you to think outside the box and make use of other game mechanics. like the weapon ability that inflicts Weak stacks which make the bosses do much less damage to you. it might not be the hardest hitting Resolve ability but it will keep you alive.
also another thing is that when you cast these weapon abilities you get iframes for as long as the animation lasts.
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>>745884282
>Tiel lets you stealth
>Smert lets you freeze time
>Proxima lets you mitigate damage
You made a lot of errors if you got hit.
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Got the hammer and I'm really sad.
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>>745850514
Is it better than Lords of the Fallen mk.2?
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>>745884608
nah not even close
it's still decent
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>>745884330
it really isn't because what happens is that the game turns into a case of just abusing buffs and debuffs to win. Is that really what you want in your action game? Fighting bullshit with bullshit? It's kind of thing that you see in challenge runs, not the first playthrough.
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>>745883868
but anon, they are EVERYWHERE
i just died to some barrels that where behind a wooden door, so i swing my weapon break the door and break some barrels and die
So sure the next time i stand back and shoot the door but it felt cheap as fuck
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>>745856178
But I haven't unlocked Laslo or Tiel yet anon..........I'm forced to play Proxima here.
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>>745885058
dry lips man
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>>745884297
if you're referring to gascogne, that's the point where the game won't let you go until you master the parry system.
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>>745884775
nta but I like fighting bullshit with bullshit, it's just pure fun and I play for fun, not for arguing with trannies on mongolian basketweaving forum.
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>>745885125
I'm after bloodmoon.
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>>745850514
The runbacks are fucking AIDS tier
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>>745877198
There is
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>>745853131
Kino
Rollslop could never
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Guys I can't concentrate on parrying, Proxima's huge asscheeks are getting in the way of my concentration.
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Can I refund shell point?
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>>745885414
Oouughhh SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
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Went south prior to hitting the 3rd gate in the west so I can detour and grab the axtana and genessa, maybe just me playing poorly but yeah the southern enemies are on average way tougher so I think I did make the right call to run the game counter-clockwise as sorta it seems to be intended. I just want to ask though why the genessa boss fight for the censer was such a joke compared to literally every around it. Also whats the deal with genessa. I vaguely remember her mentioning that she was a fragment of the whole in early dialogue. Is that why her prompt to switch to her is phrased as letting her control the harbinger and why shes able to remain alive and conscious while being a "shell"? Also goddamn I gave him a chance because it sounded funny but vratko is a real freak while washing her toes.
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>>745885414
>>745885547
She's already taken and used goods
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>>745885536
I'll allow it. Only once.
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>>745885732
As a level 99 rapemaster with hundreds of prior convictions, this is not a problem.
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>>745850514
>no character creation
into the trash and instantly worse than any Souls
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These threads made me realize I really, really fucking hate this worthless zoomer infested niggerhole now, because I really like this game and want to talk about it but every fucking thread being spammed is just the same retarded regurgitated bait posts or could-be-a-fucking-bot meaningless short posts shat out from a smartphone about THIS LE SHELL HAS LE BIG ASS or whatever. Fuck all of you, fuck the nigger jeet hybrid running this site, I enjoy video games too much to be wasting my time on this pathetic shell of what used to be a good site. The internet is completely fucking dead, fuck all of you obnoxious sacks of shit talking like a video essay you were conditioned on since childhood because you were raised on a fucking smartphone. I can't fucking wait until the day this shithole dies.

God I fucking LOVE video games so goddamn much it's unreal.
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god i wanna dig my nose into proximas big fat gyattler
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>>745886032
See you tomorrow.
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Looking at genessa's skill tree I'm a little baffled at how risky it is, that I wonder if the payoff is any good. So just as a baseline she's the only shell that cannot be restored because she doesn't get severed, a downside during exploration if you're carelessly blown up by a barrel but otherwise not the biggest deal. That said what the hell is the skill node that locks you into stray form? From what I can tell she doesn't get the shell HP bonus while stray so I'm really hoping theres a big payoff because from what it looks like shes too much glass not enough cannon
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My Triarch Repeater is not strong like everyone else's and I need a hug
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>>745886125
Fuck you nigger, this fucking sarcastic back handed bullshit is exactly what I'm talking about, you don't hate yourself or feel shame at all over what a fucking nigger you are, instead you feel the need to do some gay clapback sassy bullshit. Worthless sack of human fucking garbage.

>>745886089
EPIC FOR THE WIN BRO LMAO!!! XDD LE COOMER SKIBIDI LOL!!!
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>lil bro wouldn't tap allat booty
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>Multiple loading screens of Lazlo posing with the axatana
They really hate weebs lmao
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>>745885414
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>>745886917
>Face is red
>Tits out
This isn't my Genessa.
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>>745886670
i couldn't you'd literally need an angle grinder to get through that armor
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>>745886670
>>745886917
Did they fix the female walk animations yet?
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>>745882340
That's Farum Azula.
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>>745881102
silky smooth 25fps
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>>745887201
Yes.

By yes I mean no. However, the more profound answer is that you are wrong to assume the female walk is wrong to begin with. Proxima is an alien with big lats. She's not gonna walk like a normal woman.
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>>745881102
>Damn, is it that well optimized?
it runs like shit
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I remember once I tried to copy my mom's "walk animation" because I noticed it looked different than a man's when she walked me to school one time and my dad called me a faggot and hit me so hard threw up and lost my upper and lower incisors
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>>745886032
newfag
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>Proxima is an Ayye LMAO
I'm sorry, WHAT?
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>>745887645
Works fine on my my laptop with 8400 i5 and 1050ti.

Just accept you will be playing at 720p and 30fps. Turn down all the settings to low.

>But-
Shut up. You're playing a modern game on 10 year old hardware. Shut the fuck up.
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>>745887328
>She's not gonna walk like a normal woman
I just came from the truck stop today and saw a young woman wearing yoga pants with ass and thighs just as big as Proxima's walking just fine. Don't make excuses for devs being lazy asses and reusing walk cycles/animations.
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>>745887948
>implying he leaves his house
Bait used to be believable.
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>>745888164
Not everyone is a jobless neet like (You), anon.
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>>745888264
Sure, dumbass-kun. Keep kvetching about how an H.R. Giger alien doesn't match your expectations of real women.
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The castle and its surroundings to the lower east of the map after outskirts of mammon is gigantic
It's nice how it's all interconnected but man the mini-dungeons are starting to suck
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Will I enjoy Lords of the fallen if I like MS2?
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>>745888194
Imagine the milk, bros.
Sweet and creamy, or tangy amd sour?
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>>745888491
>call out lazy devs for recycling and reusing male animations for females
>ERM ACKSHULLY THE LORE IS BASICALLY LE XENOTRANSMORPHS SO FEMALES SHOULD WALK AND ANIMATE LIKE MALES
Why are you like this?
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>>745888904
Not sure. Shouldn't you be doing more important things than arguing about animations in a Vatnik video game at 11AM on a Bangladeshi marketing site, dumbass-kun?
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>>745888665
it's more like souls in terms of builds and weapon variety but I guess you'll like it? I like it more than MS2 but I'm not done yet
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>Hexapod has an unblockable attack that flashes the red warning icon a full 1.5 seconds before the actual attack lands
>The windup animation for the attack is a threatening advance towards the player

I know it's meant to be a gotcha but it's still fucking gay and I will never get used to it
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>>745889124
What about exploration? I enjoy games with good exploration like AI Limit from the recent ones.
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>>745889301
I played that game on launch and apparently the game has had a ton of patches? I liked it and the exploration is pretty average. MS2 does exploration better I think
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this shitty little tent behind the snail took me embarrasingly long, didnt help that i didnt touch eredrim until new game+
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Do the Chalice Dungeons have anything important like weapons or shells? So far I'm enjoying the game as long as I avoid the boring shit.
Reminds me of Elden Ring where I got burned out by anything that wasn't Legacy Dungeon.
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>>745889854
weapons and tearstones, yes
don't think I've found a shell in one
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>>745876553
He's already sexualized, naked with a visible dick bulge.
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>>745890667
See this is why I gave my man some clothes once I found them. Having him run naked is just not family friendly
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>>745889817
God the dragonslayer looks awful in those proportions
The actual martyr's blade is already the perfect berserk-inspired design, there's no need for a mod



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