Souls bros... how do we cope with the fact this this is better than any Souls game ever made?Anyway, discuss the game.
>>745850514its a shitty low budget ds3 clone, huge let down, they cut out anything unique about itplayed ai limit recently, its just better
>>745850967>tranny weeb AI slop game is betterlol no
>>745851005like it or not there are dozens of soul clones, ones that have 10x better gameplay like khazan, diablo loot and progression system for autists like nioh, or retarded difficulty like lies of panyway ai limit is a much better package with story that isnt a from tier cancer aids, maze like level design and dynamic gameplayor you can just play ds3 or elden ring, that have actual build and weapon variety, not fucking 2 clunky attacks like mortal shell 2
>>745850514I'm trying to get a refund because they pussied out to redditors and nerfed all the bosses and enemies. They basically gave us the IGN build and got praised for it by this generation of dad gamers who can't handle friction in their games.
>>745850514I'm having fun, but not being able to fully upgrade all of the tarstones is bullshit, and I want the NaylShotte to hit harder. They are going to be rolling out patches here and there and have already improved the gold economy on the PC port, so that's a start
>>745851450They made it easier?The beta was already a joke...
>>745850514I like the monster designs and the body horror aspects of the game but holy shit the level design just ruins it for me. On top of that the devs are doing themselves no favors by being on Reddit and letting them decide how their game should be balanced and patched.
good game
>>745851450>They basically gave us the IGN buildthis is how I can tell when a retard is just joining the mob and has zero idea what he's talking aboutRead the patch notes you hyperbolic fucking retard
>>745851613>The beta was already a joke...It was a joke that the beta was made easy on purpose so game journos can feel good and rate the game well instead of crying over accessibility. Everyone was happy that the release was harder than the demo, only for r/patientgamers to flood the dev's discord and threaten refunds.
>>745851613They only changed the enemies from the start area to make them as hard as in the beta.You play on night mode, which makes everything harder (and there are secrets in the world that only show up at night.)
>>745850514XP loss on death is an objectively bad mechanic and every game that copies this trope is worse for having done soalso kinda hate the early parry timing but otherwise this shit is AESTHETIC as fuck
>>745851724Okay, retard. From the official discord.BossesThe Lost Child- Base Damage: (-10%)- Max Health: (-15%)Monolith- Base Damage: (-19%)- Max Health: (-10%)- Some Monolith Attacks were retimed to be more fair, as well.EnemiesCultist (mace)Max Health: (-21.1%)Caerinid SpiderMax Health: (-33.3%)Infested Stalker- Max Health: (-52.4%)Rusted Knave (Halberd)- Max Health: (-20.8%)- Fixed hit detection for overhead strike.Weapons-Great Martyr’s Blade Attack Damage +20%-Troubador’s Lute Attack Damage +100%-Caged Hystrix and Triarch Repeater no longer have minimum resolve requirements to fire.-Improved tracking for Axatana, Black Needle, and Clockwork Scythe light attacks.SealsGuard can now be used while walking.TarstonesParasitic Stone BuffedGrudge Stone BuffedBulwark Stone Damage Reduction Increased SignificantlyClerik's Stone BuffedSquall Stone BuffedSo nerfs for all the enemies listed and buffing the fuck out of the player. Remind me who didn't play the game again, retard?
Is it me or are there not nearly enough beacons? I want to go find this new weapon on the map but I have to go 12 miles on foot with only 4 healing charges and then run a dungeon and fight a boss.
>>745851450>>745851613There's a hard mode you just have to beat one of the first bosses and get the flame to unlock it on the towerIt also makes it night which is cool
>>745851828see >>745851856the hard/night mode doubles enemy HP and damage and increases rewards
>>745851828now tell me how nerfing enemies in the tutorial is the IGN build you weeping woman dipshit? Nothing here changes you getting 2 or 1 tapped in the second half of the game and only two bosses were touchedfucking whining moron who is not even playing the game
>>745850514I just started playing this game. How come my character got an entire village of random farmers to kill themselves? Surely they didn't need to be standing next to me when I exploded. Am I the baddy?
>>745851828>proves him rightNice job.
>>745850514I got bored during the demo
>>745851843It's my main complaint about these games, reusing objectively bad mechanics like sparse checkpoints and XP loss on death which severely limit your ability to be creative, try shit out and experiment Stop punishing me for trying to play the fucking game
>>745851979I'm not here to talk about your generic gripes about a game you haven't played, I asked a specific question about THIS game.
>>745851979bro just pick up your bloodstain, it isn’t a big deal
>>745851979Why is modern /v/ so fucking washed? Niggers on this board bitch about games not being fun anymore and then turn around to show how they physically cannot play games on a mechanical level anymore. Maybe the problem's you? Maybe you're a bitter washed up old man?
>>745852060/v/ has been bad at video games for many years now and gets worse every year. The days of Tribes vs Reddit are long past.
>>745851919>it doesn't count because it's only the first few hours, actuallyI accept your concession.>>745851950You don't even know how to read if you believe that.
>>745851450Sir please this is a hard game; the nerfs were warranted
>>745851450>boss hard>let me get some more upgrades before the attempt>LE NERFS PATCH>OH NOES THEY TRIVIALIZED THE GAME, IT'S BORING NOWThese retards don't even think before typing this stupid shit.
>>745852113>retard got BTFO>hurrr...dur...my concertions...you fucking parrot retards must all come out of the same factory because you spew the same stale buzzwords whenever you get ruined in a thread
>>745851979This poster is hung up on the mere idea of losing a fraction of a level worth of experience in a game with infinitely respawning enemies and a mechanic to reclaim the lost experience anyway. Imagine being this much of a bitch.
>>745851906>the hard/night mode doubles enemy HP and damage and increases rewardsHaving to riposte trash mobs 3-4 times before they die gets old fast. I get the point brev, just die. What /v/ really wants is 3-frame parry timing so they can feel justified in complaining about the game being too hard. If the parry timing is 30 frames, they don't have an excuse and it looks embarrassing when they still whine about getting filtered.
>>745852029>>745852060explain what xp loss adds to the fun of a game
>>745851979>ER baby mad at true souls-gameplay
>>745850514I have Souls fatigue.
>>745852152>>745852235No, actually explain to me why I can't be upset that the game I bought needed a nerf patch for its bosses. Stop acting mouthy.
Is there a recommended path to clear? I've just beat the gate to the east and just clearing counter-clockwise since I assume areas around tiel and proxima are supposed to be the starter zones
>>745852354post your playtime, shitposting bitch boy
Am I missing something or can someone explain why >>745851828 doesn't count as a nerf. Genuinely asking.
>>745852354You can be upset, but you're also a bitch.Both can be true.
>>745852364I'm at about the same place and I have no fucking clue where to go.
>>745852286nta but I kinda like the tension that comes from knowing that if I fuck up I'm losing a whole level or more.
>>745850514I did like the gameplay in MS1 but imma be honest, what the fuck was even the story?I'm not a complete retard and don't need everything spelled out to me, but I feel the worldbuilding and story in the first game was just too cryptic for the sake of being vague.
>>745852286it adds at least a little bit of tension so that there is a small cost for losing, same with the run backthis makes the reward for clearing something without dying feel good. if those mechanics weren’t there, you would just sort of breeze through and everything would feel mid, but running out of heals and having a buildup of souls and finally finding a bonfire after a long trek adds a unique experience that would be absent otherwise if death had no consequence
>>745852446>>745852490I want to feel like I can try something new or different or experiment with pathing or playstyle without being punished for itWhen I replay Sekiro I mod that shit now to remove loss-on-death and the game is just better for it
huh weird the guy crying about 'muh nerf patch' didn't post his play time. It's almost like he's not playing the game at all. Weird! Who would do that?
>>745852490Is your time not an investment? Even without losing exp on death you're going to need to do the run back because you didn't find a beacon before dying.
The genre is tired now. What's it been, 15+ years of everyone trying to replicate Dark Souls?
>>745852698Go play Dark Souls and then go play this game right after, the difference is night and day.>The genre is tired because I personally got raped so badly by Consort Radahn 3 years ago that I swore off games forever
a fucking BIG mango
Wuchang is the best soulslikeThis is p good so far tho
>>745852638that's a (you) issue, you have some kind of autistic internal hang up over the theoretical loss of something you can get an infinite supply of
Not buying it until they add boss checkpoints
>>745852809All the Souls clones have the same concepts.>Zombie graveyard at the start>Swamp>the Cathedral>The heretics>The blighted/cursed>enemy behind the cornerThe genre became this weird meta-thing where From was trying to one up itself in combat that wasn't designed for that and other devs don't have the design intricacies of From but rely on better presentation.The genre hasn't evolved because no one understood the Ocarina roots.
Does anyone even touch the other characters? Everyone seems to only play the BDSM armor bint.
>>745853002For the early game she's easily the best shell.
Gaming as a hobby will not survive the millennial midlife crisis. /v/ will not survive the millennial midlife crisis. This thread is an excellent example of why.
Is Hilga quest need specific progression ? After tiny frog died, Hilga and her stuff just disappear. The location empty
>>745853057Didn't get the #1 Victory Royale today lil bro?
>niggas calling this a soulslike
>>745853002her aesthetic with the shotgun is a high point of the game, plus she has a huge ass
I have Lies of P trauma. I keep thinking the parry timing is 3x stricter than it is. After the huge wave of mega-tryhard sekirolikes with single-digit parry timings, it's almost alien to have a sekirolike where you get sekiro timings again.
Ranks for shells have been very different for many as I see which is prob a good thing. I did unlock Proxima, Lazlo and Sariel in my playtrough. I think all 3 were pretty good, but sariel ability need some fixing only since when you upgraded it missed, but his pain ability is damn good very tanky char.
>>745853131That doesnt work good against all mobs nor bosses, but its damn satisfying to do.
>>745853131SOULKINO
>>745852993Wow dude you described virtually every dungeon crawler to ever exist, good job. How about you actually play games for once?
>>745853002she gets extra money, and was 100% required prior to the patchAfter the patch I switched to Skellington Man and he's fun as fuck. Proxima is 100% good though, and you can cruise through the whole game on her if you want.
>>745853057I disagree and I'm a millennial. I think harder games are more popular than ever.
No spoilers, but how deep does the "commune with chaos" temple go? Is this worth trying to muscle through at the start, or is it one of those giga dungeons where you're meant to periodically come back and unlock more of it as you go through the whole game?
>>745853264Triple threat, I think. She's one of the two early game shells, she has a FAT FUCKING ASS which people love, and the sample drops. Oh, and she's good too, so people can just continue on her if they want.
>>745850514Gameplay is solid, fighting feels and sounds chonky and satisfying, but dear lord the progression systems suck ass. Like you level up and get +1 hp, or go level your shells bond and get +1% shell recovery efficiency
They need to change the shell pointing system. Just let the player put SPs on all shells at the same. The current system has no point because you can only change the shell at the bonfire, so it's just a timewaster to transfer the points to the shell you change into.
>>745853131can you choose whether to grapple to them or grapple them to you?
>>745853372Its not that deep and you can shoot barrel to explode some enemies as well, there is also a secret handle in first area you enter that opens up another area that is outside and there will be a grisha + glimpse
>>745853419the best thing you get from leveling is the shell points which turn the game into >>745853131
>>745852473>Goddess of the planet gives birth to unborn which are all fucked up monsters>monsters have glands that create a god milk that can be used for drugs that make people more enlightened>goddess wants to create another god but her normal process of making babies doesn't work so she makes baby seeds instead>guy who worships the goddess finds seeds and protects them with other guys>eventually some of the guys form cults and they all want to ascend and become gods with the power of super special god milk but nobody can become a god unless the goddess specifically lets them>main character is an unborn from a ritual the good guys that still worship the goddess performed>he collects all the seeds from the cult and kills all the evil corrupt unborn then the goddess and the glands he collects give him everything he needs to ascend and become a new god>process of becoming god causes an alien lady spaceship to crash on the planet because the ascension was like a navigation beacon>remnants of the cults decide to worship her>they steal her eggs from her womb for power>evil alien sperm on board is corrupting everything because sperm love eggs
I don't understand how to play around Harden in this game. Am I stupid because it doesn't seem to work that well>Enemies will attack in combos with 3-5 hits>Harden: you tank and get ONE hit back>You then uhhhh run away because you can't parry again for another 3 seconds>It's not like Bloodborne or Sekiro where you could get behind enemies by dodging because of how hard they magnetize attacks to youAre you supposed to wait until the endgame when you can stack buffs and oneshot everything to use this?
>>745852445I still have some misgivings but it feels like the right idea. Fainweald seems to extend pretty much the entire east and north with 2 nearby gates. I'm running through the north gate now and so far nothing feels that much harder than the east gate enemies so it might be sorta intended?
>>745853520But it's like why even bother having these other progression systems if only one matters? And to unlock the crazy shit with shell points you've got to spend your Glimpse increasing your bond which gives such generous bonuses such as increasing your shell recovery hp from 25% to 26%. It just doesn't feel good to spend several Glimpse or thousands of Gloom on upgrades that sound and feel entirely irrelevant
>>745853837You should be going for Perfect Hardens, which will almost always instantly break an enemy. The upside is if you don't get the perfect it should stagger them enough for you to dodge out.
>>745853945Are perfect hardens like twice as strict as normal parries? I hardly even noticed you could do that.
I hate to be that guy but how much plot is in these games? Do I miss anything if I haven't played the first one?
>>745854046It's much more strict, yes.
>>745853430nahit attracts euros; grapples towards burgers
This is fucking stupid
>>745854401Out Fucking Skilled.
>>745850514No coop, so I don't fucking care about this game
>>745850514I've completely missed the tarstone that lets you do the overhead shrapnel alternative shot with your sidearms. Where did it go in full release?
How filtered will he be?I wish i didnt finish the game already had fun times, now I have to play some shit game i pirated and watch others play on twitch :/No new games to play Amsterdam 1666 doesnt interest me and its basically AI SLOP the game, Star Wars RTS meh, the only thing one can hope for is that The Blood of Dawnwalker will be good.
Anyone got the bugged opened chest in the Collapsed Mind and found a way to get that Shattering Tarstone?
>>745855142I literally could not care less what assmold does
It's huuuuhhhh shockwaves bro
>>745855142i'll be fair to this faggot and say that most of his gaming taste is pretty solid because he hyper focuses on gameplay and feel above everythingso yeah he's enjoying this game but he will absolutely seethe at the clunky state of many thingshe play games every single fucking night, he plays way more games than /v/ does, so yeah sometimes i'm gonna check out his gaming streams to see how combat in a game is
I appreciate having a ranged damage source that fucks people up and feels like pulling out a gun should.
>>745855830It does feel decent. I'm not far in and only found the crossbow as an alternate but it feels solid.
>>745852939correct, i earned it
>Classic knightly armor>Uses a greatsword in art>Shoulder bash and riposte focus>Black and orangish yellow alt color>Body is protected by a boss called the wardenIf it ain't intentional that has to be the funniest set of coincidences in the world
>Low TestProxima players>Mid TestTiel players>High TestLaslo players
>>745856178Laslo is patrician choice unironically.
Genessa's faithful doubles have some of the worst AI I've ever seen. Or I'm using them completely wrong somehow. They'll just ignore enemies that are in front of you and run towards shit thats not even on your screen, off in the distance. The grisha summons don't have this problem. Enemies fighting each other don't have this problem. They actually do decent damage when they work but holy fuck is it unreliable. Feels like you're forced to use her stray doubles build.
>high Tproxima players>low Teveryone else
Do you ever get the knight from the prologue back? He was cool. He saved my deadbeat bitch ass and he didn't even need to because you canonically have respawn powers.
>>745856178>tfw only unlocked the lil thief nigga so far
>>745856343>proxima>clearly based on HT Geigar's biotech>sexy Amazon with a gigantic ass>A cold and focused alien hunter, stabs everything with a DNA sampler, even when she doesn't need to.Do you think he would have liked Proxima? As clearly a send up to his work. I think he would have wanted her to have visible nopples on her armor and a phallic cod piece or vagina armor but otherwise he would have liked her.
>>745856202holy fuck, yeah, I needed to see this.
>>745855519It's a bug, when you get de shelled you barely get invincible frames. You got stuck on a second trap that killed your shell but instead if the deshell animation you got the stuck in trap animation which meant you're vulnerable to hits.
>>745856846Yeah that doesn't explain the boulder that missed by a mile.
>>745856921What is this bait? You stepped into two beartraps in a row.
>>745856921If it hit it hit the split second he got hit by the trap
>feet washer doesnt have a detailed cutscenewill have to give this game a bad review
>>745851714We need more lewd proxima mods, also devs need to capitalize on this by asking the artist to make his secret stash of sexy horror costumes available...
>>745854401Hey i need that as a special/ash of war
>>745853837Ideally, you are constantly attacking and hardening nid attack to hit get a perfect block or at least sneak a hit in after the block and dash out.One part I struggled with was that I kept just tapping it and the harden disappears the instant you let go. I was thinking there was a few frames to do it and you won't get a perfect if you held the button down. It'd more like the parry in sonic frontiers, as a weird comparison, it can work find holding it down. If you miss the perfect you will at least knock out 1 hit and for normal mods that staggers them.
>>745857375Yeah i guess the rest of the devs were like "nope this is too much even for us"
>>745857956Harden does seem to be nerfed compared to ms1, it always staggered enemies even if not hardened in a offensive move and your follow up was very fast
>>745857956If you get a perfect harden does the cooldown instantly reset?
How many shells can i try out in the beta/demo whatever this is
>>745858289There is only one shell in beta, you get to try the Thiel which is rogue shell
>>745858432>>745858289you start as a different shell though before its taken from you
>>745852139>using summon
>>745857469Need one that gives her a full helmet and bigger ass
>>745853837I think you're supposed to Perfect Harden multiple times. Perfect Harden won't consume your charge.
How do I get more glimpses? I swear they kind of frontloaded this stuff early game or something because once you get going with exploration it doesn't even feel like you see that shit anymore.
>>745855958Maybe i can RAH and become incredibilis in this game
>>745858950You get them mostly from cleansing beacons.
Surely there's a degenerate out there that will make a pregnant Proxima in a slingkini mod...right?
>>745858678would not be hard to expand the legs. i was thinking of checking out modding the game so i could look into it
This game is pretty fun but the enemy variety is SERIOUSLY lacking, feels like there's only a dozen enemy types total. Also I don't understand why poison is so fucking shit, I'm playing Tiel and poison is LITERALLY one damage per tick, losing a stack per tick too. Seems completely worthless except for detonating with that one talent.
>>745859261If she's pregnant why would she be wearing a slingkini?
I always thought the "hold B to sprint" gimmick in Fromsoft games is shit design, but when you put sprint on A, you actually see why Fromsoft did it. It is REALLY hard to pivot the camera and sprint at the same time when the sprint is on A, even with claw grip. Your finger has to stretch so much further. Since you basically never have to emergency swap between sprinting and rolling, the fact that they share a button isn't the biggest deal. Resting your finger on B ends up being a much more comfy hand arrangement.
>meanwhile average joe casually holding LShift to sprint
Finished the Forgotten Tower secret and got rewarded with an Active/Passive item. It cures Cosmic Disease and grants mitigation. I don't even recall encountering such a thing yet and im almost done the game. Also, Old Prisoner corpse disappeared. pic related.
>>745859325One anon already made a thicc female Harbinger mod which is awesome, but sadly the animations broke in the update it seems.
>>745860160Holding? Why not toggle.
>>745856626He would have liker her but he would have altered the design to be even more lewd.FUCK how much I hate that he's not around now imagine if he had been born a bit later and we could have him designing modern games
>>745860230It's for the final boss fight.
Is there a patch out for pirates yet?
fuark brehs
>>745860990So is that 47% damage reduction? Seems busted.
>>745861024might be nigh 100% with maxed out executioner stacks on eredrim
>>745861024Yeah, I was mentioning this in another thread. With Proxima's damage mitigation procs you can tank like crazy with some luck. currently 64% from the Moonshine. Playing on Night Mode and I can tank a good bit of hits. I even have the Bulwark tarstone that gives damage reduction on kill for a duration. I just sprint in and kill something fast, no regard for my safety, just swinging a chainsaw scythe which deals 35% damage each tick. The tick amount depends on what im hitting and how its getting hit. Sometimes 1 swing takes almost 2 seconds to fully swing because its stuck ticking dealing 2-3 swings worth of damage in a single attack. I fucking love this thing.
how much unique stuff is there to be found in playing hard mode? it seem pretty brutal so I don't know if I want to bother with it if the reward isn't proportional
>>745861465I haven't found any "come back here at night" hints aside from the one in the mushroom village so I haven't been using nightmode at all.I'm booting up the game now so I'm gonna go nightmode and check out the tutorial area and see if anything is different.
>>745860261based. i wanted to sexualize the harbinger
>>745861670Pretty sure there are only three must be night mode spots. The forgotten tower where you use all the glands you collect in three of the big dungeons, mushroom village, and the merchant at the camp. Other than that it's just the glimpses that spawn near where you found every shell.
>>745860990>>745861024>>745861439It's not 1 moonshine equals 1%, you silly billies.I've got 70 weltcaps and they sure as shit don't regen me to 70% health when I put them in the passive slot. It's more like 40%. The moonshine is the same.
>>745861670You can't return to the tutorial area.
>>745861804Even if it's half getting something like 25% damage reduction feels huge.
>>745861804exactly I was gonna say that, it scales def different, maybe its 0.1 per bottle, so 50 moonshines is 5% prob or it scales differently but def not 50%
>>745852354I don't know why you're buying this shit, basically every Souls game cucks out and nerfs everything in the first week, I've just started pirating them instead to play the real game
>>745850514its not trying to be a souls-game more like parry-slop game tacked onto a game like Shadow of Mordor/War. oh yeah, peak update the Windows 11 problem with the Easy Anti Cheat not functioning in 11 can be combated through making it launch in "Windows Vista" version. like holy fuck I hate Tim Sweeney so much and Microsoft for ruining the gaming ecosystem by binding games into this god-awful anti-cheat that plagues souls-likes.
>>745861730>>745860261is it uploaded?
>>745861868I think what happens is it gets added to the percentage of the 2nd tier at a dramatically reduced rate. So the 2nd tier weltcaps regens you to 35%, and I've got twice as much as 35, but I'm only seeing like a 5% extra gain.
>Isaac's second phaseDoes the game really expect the player to be able to parry all that?
You guys are wrong. The Grisha Remnant can become 100% and it's worded the same fucking way.
>>745854401>WIIIIILLS UNBENDING>FAAAAITH UNENDING
>>745862314You should try equipping the Skill Seal, it makes a big difference.
Roll slop
>>745863304Umm akshually it's a bloodborne style dodge not a roll.
>>745862338Weltcaps say otherwise.
>>745852408Because a few enemies and a couple of standout bosses getting nerfed barely changes the experience.The game is already a joke once you get enough Shell Points and if you're using either the Axe and Dagger or the Axatana. Unless you're beelining to activate Night Mode immediately and play on it from level 1 the game, like every Soulslike, is nowhere near as difficult as people make it out to be.
>>745863973>either the Axe and Dagger or the AxatanaWhy?
>>745864178NTA but they're fast and can use the most busted tarstone in the game, the one that lets every hit of your light attack combo count as two hits.
>>745864178>The ability tarstones for both weapons give massive amounts of iframes>Since the developers are a mixture of Slavs and Burgers, Resolve gain is based on the number of weapon hits rather than based on the amount of damage done> as a result fast weapons naturally are just better for spamming anything requiring Resolve while slow weapons just get fucked for no real reason>add really good shell abilities like Biosampler into the mix for guaranteed staggers when you need itThey didn't really balance this game.
>>745850514Can't decide if I like this or Wuchang better. I'm just happy that my favorite genre is getting so many good games. Souls chads will inherit the world.
>>745864440I like both, though I'm kind of partial to combat systems with no stamina systems these days.It's still crazy to me that FROMSoft perfected the gameplay style with Sekiro but then regressed for Elden Ring. Still great games but the only flaw I could find with Sekiro was lack of weapon variety and ARPG elements.
How do we show this man overcoming his inner demons for the woman he loves? Maybe he fights a corrupted version of himself? Shadowy figures of his inner doubts? >massive fuckoff potion that flails at you because drugs Well, it certainly gave me a double take.
What does the cursed child actually do? It doesn't seem to do any damage or break damage, the only observable effect to me seems to be a small amount of pushback.
So when using permapunch mode for Smert you can't use any charged attacks or weapon infusions?
>>745864535You want ARPG elements but dislike stamina? "How physically fit is your character" as measured by stats like endurance, and meters like stamina, is an inseparable part of ARPG gameplay. That green bar is a huge part of what defines build variety in these RPGs, especially at lower levels, where the tradeoff between HP, stamina, and damage is very pronounced. Like, in DS3, you have to make huge compromises in the early/mid game of a spellcaster run between damage-per-spell and volume-of-spells because of how you need to level both blue and green bars. Especially for pyromancies which are stamina hogs. That may not matter for the SL125 pvp bracket but it matters a lot in your journey to that endpoint.
>>745864835nta but stamina is gaysimple as
>>745864835For the record, I don't dislike stamina constraints, but if these games are going to lean more and more towards Action games, removing stamina (except for blocking, as in Sekiro and MS2) makes more sense to me to keep the pace of the combat going.Stamina I like more when the game is focusing on being a classic dungeon crawler with more of a focus upon RPG elements and a more deliberate pace to match it. In this case the stamina management reinforces the combat being deliberate.tl;dr Depends on the game for me. I like stamina in the older Souls games when they weren't trying to be more like typical hack and slashes.
>>745855142>How filtered will he be?Asmongold finished Sekiro which is an astronomically harder game than mortal shell 2
>>745864814Yes, but you don't need them. Just get the stagger buff perk and laugh as bosses literally fall before you.
>>745864778It's a curse applicator and summoning device when you get the tarstones for those.
>>745865108Is the low FPS due to the webm quality or is the guy recording playing on a potato?That's hilarious, though.
>>745864980IMO the reason Elden Ring falls flat isn't because it leans too hard into being an action game. The legacy dungeons in Elden Ring are unironically the best dungeon crawling in the entire genre. It falls flat because >Every enemy attack has a 50% chance to combo into another attack, so in practical terms you never know when it's safe to swing back unless you wait for a tiny handful of moves or do very specific actions to stay safe, which gets old very fast to figure out through trial and error>Dodge timings and attack animations that are designed to be as dishonest as possible and be the opposite of what your intuition says should be right, which makes them aggravating to learn >Overreliance on "dude how is balance even real dude just respec into the boss's kryptonite and kill him in 5 hits or just level [insert overpowered weapon here]" as a band aid to the game being so bloated with such a schizo difficult curve that it's impossible to balance All of these things would still be problems with and without a stamina bar desu
>>745865346It's probably the result of me telling my webm converter to compress the fuck out of the video so I could fit it on 4chan.
>>745865421>All of these things would still be problems with and without a stamina bar desuTrue though I think Elden Ring would've benefitted greatly from the lessons they learned in Sekiro. People complain about Soulslikes being rollslop, but Sekiro already solved this conundrum (and later Lies of P copied it) by making every defensive move valuable depending on the attack you're facing. Dodge, block (and perfect block AKA deflect), running away, and even jumping all get use and some attacks are easier to respond to depending on what you use.I get they were already neck deep in Elden Ring's development when they were working on Sekiro, though, and Miyazaki mentioned that if he could have a do-over he would've incorporated more from Sekiro into ER. The halfhearted attempt by adding the deflect tear into the DLC doesn't quite cut it for me.
He... he looks like me.. He's built like me... I... thank you #RepresentationMatters #MS2
>>745865108you didn't beat the game
>>745865976Based. Discord modders and Predditors getting the rep they desire.
>>745865976He looks like Baron
>lost childman this thing sucks
>>745866392Or do you suck?
Once I finish the game I think I'm just gonna hack glimpses so I can play with all the shells on NG+. It doesn't seem worth grinding for.
>>745866020But I did. I used Smert and the Grisha stone. That's what total chud victory looks like.
>>745867107>Once I finish the gameLol, I did it first thing. I noticed that glimpses don't do anything besides unlocking shell stories and so I was like "Fuck grinding, I want to see their stories as I find them".
>>745866916nah it was definitely the bossraped it one shot btw
Watched some gameplay vids on twitter and crazy how fucking busted buff stacking is. It took me a couple of assclenching hours smashing my face on a wall fighting droeg the conqueror then some guy just spams light attack on him using axe and dagger with duality and bleed and he fucking dies in seconds before he can even spam his bullshit homing skull attack.
>he almost killed me with his death animation where the sword falls into the groundokay, that's just funny, dick ass devs
>>745867707it also happens with droeg>>745867540some of his skulls will just decide to explode around him, enough to immediately break your shell.
They really need to buff triarch repeater. It deals less dps than the caged hysterix but also requires to do a stupid spin before firing which makes it incredibly clunky to use in fights.
Finally, a good body reshape. Not that kind of fucking BBW shape https://www.nexusmods.com/mortalshell2/mods/94
>feeding roomWait am o doing wrong? I just want a the dagger hammer for Christ's sake
I'm playing the first game and it pretty shit. Combat is slow and floaty, parry is inconsistent, only heal is mushrooms. If I was more patient I'd probably be more forgiving but I don't have time for this tech demo shit.
>>745868260Now give it a bigger butt
It's too big.
>kill the fat lady of the swamp>big fat fucking open ended paths>dick around, get lost, end up in a slum village>the fucking well dungeoni haven't been shit on by a game in a long time.my damage was ok, but i died a billion times and the whole thing was capped by 2 grishas and i ended up trying out the slayer sealam i underleveled for the area or what? the fact that i had to fight 2 of them whereas i didn't even find the singular makes me think so.i'm still on the OG patch tho
>>745869395using map, your progression is from top to bottom
>>745869537i did something like this i think.first part was ok, but since i got the maker's breath and i could break down the black walls i got a bit lost
what's the use case for gragu? i've been using eredrim for a good long while now and I enjoy his shoulder tackle but i'm kind of thinking of switching shells to shake things up a bit and i'm currently torn between smert or gragu
>Can't even unlock Proxima in the demoso why does she even look like thatis she actually a sorceress and all that metal is just grafted onto her skin to let her electrocute niggas or what
>>745869780She's an ayy.
>>745869780shes just a super thick alien baddie, dog
>>745869858what, is she the Mether's cousin or something
>>745869776Gragu is just better Eredrim that retards underestimated until people started beating the game. I'd pick someone else to mix it up unless you really like charging up Y again
The first game is awful and I beat Bleak Faith and Hellpoint. Second game looks cool but I won't play it without beating the first and I will not continue the first any longer.
>745870050thats cool man
>>745869780She's basically a predator. Her biosampler thing is basically a alien probe.>>745869912Not really but the setting has a bunch of aliens.
>>745869780she's an alien and the armor is indeed grafted onto her body. I think it's implied that it's like cyborg power armor of some kind
I wonder how much damage those crabs are doing to do if they all hit you at once (they will try)
>female Harby mod is outdated already>the Anon who made it probably bounced already and moved on to other thingsMy AGP is ruffled.
>>745870546
>>745852364>>745852445Go to the blood-soaked gate north of you next.
>>745868206But it's fun and satisfying.
>>745850514>how do we cope with the fact this this is better than any Souls game ever made?Stamina bar ...
The first game sucked so much I never bothered. Fucking unreal asset flip with no design.
>>745855519>steps in one beartrap>doesn't learn the lesson, steps in another one
>>745869395>kill the fat lady of the swamp>>big fat fucking open ended paths>>dick around, get lost, end up in a slum villageThat doesn't sound right. After you kill her, there's a beacon that you cleanse, then you get teleported back to the Keep.
>>745870953This game is way better. At least before you start cheesing it with the OP stuff. A naked run would be hard as fuck, though.
>>745870953>posted it again award
So is the mammon bloodline all just fat fucks?
>>745870982i mean yeah, but after that i wasn't sure where to go.see >>745869775basically after my visit to the keep i ended up at the one-legged wolf beacon and kinda meandered around until i ended up back to widow's overlook.on the way there i freed a grisha puppy, talked to the guy in a soup bowl and did that god-forsaken well dungeon
>>745871243Take your meds.
I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPS I HATE BEARTRAPSFYUKING NIGGERSS
>>745871253Ah. Well there's no beacons in that top right part of the map. You want to head for the cliffside structure that's to the 2 o'clock of what you've labeled "gate 1".
>>745871303Eh, maybe tomorrow.
>>745871253Wait I meant after you go to that structure (the tavern), you keep heading east to the edge.
>>745871367>>745871412lovely, thanksalso, is it just me or everything being tied to resolve is kind of a bummer?>shell ability, gun, buffs etcsince i started the game i've barely used anything but the gun.does the resolve economy get better later?
>>745871465as you spend glimpses to upgrade your shells, you can unlock perks to make their abilities cheaper; though proxima's, for example, is on the first tier.
>>745871465Once you get the lathe you can upgrade sidearms. Each upgrade not only ups the damage but reduces how much Resolve it uses per shot. There's also some tarstones that lean into ranged damage if you like.
>level 37>only 22 pointsthis is so fucking lame, man
>>745871465The best way to use resolve will change as you play and unlock new abilities, sidearms and weapon tarstones. I was thinking like you until I got Tiel and figured the most efficient use of resolve was shadow strike. Then I unlocked the forgotten crossbow and was like "this is actually worth using for those flying enemies". So now I had two different uses for it. Then I got Gragu and he has a skill that refunds resolve for any kill made with a ranged weapon. That meant I could afford to start using resolve for weapon infusions.I still think infusions could have better been a consumable resource like in most souls games, though.
I've been stuck for 8 hours now on Nameless Captive. I don't understand why this boss is so much harder than anything else in the game so far. Previous bosses were pushovers
>>745871665just parry/harden nigga
>>745871656once maxed you don't even have to turn them on, they're just always on
>>745871594I just hacked the shit out of my shell points because I got tired of refunding and re-spending them for each shell. I'm OP now. Not sure if it was worth it.
>>745871712Yeah, so that in turn means you can use resolve for those special melee attacks.
>find Smert>holy shit this dude is cool>can't invest in him because already put my glimpse stonks into ProximaSucks that these are limited. Like surely there must be like a high level enemy somewhere that drops these, no? I don't even need it to have a high drop rate. Also I don't know if it is just my luck but beacons seems to appear less and less the more I move away from the middle area and half the ones I do find doesn't need to be cleansed so fuck me I guess.
>>745871665See >>745865108
>>745850514How's the exploration and level design? I swear if it's another boss rush disguised as a soulslike....
>>745871796Beacons are actually pretty evenly spread once you unlock them all. They're never more than a 2 minute run from each other. It just seems harder to reach them in the south because the enemies are harder.
up ahead is definitely safe and enemy free
>>745871796what they should have done is let you pick one in the beginning so you don't have to invest in someone you don't want to play, then have the rest unlock as normal
>>745850514Does it have the same dumb harden mechanic from the first game?
>>745853131damn new ass creed looking good!
>>745871917That ruins the early game rush to find one. Just make glimpse pick ups way more abundant. Like 3x more.
>Proxima died to this shitty bug that doesn't do anythingLOL what a jobber
>>745872057Best death is Smert.
>>745872057Who said aliens had to be smart?
>>745871931it has elden ring ashes of war
None said all aliens should be smart.Just the ones that master interstellar travel.
>>745872108I never figured out how those worked.
>>745872179Proxima's first memory is of having crashed her ship kekMaster of interstellar travel? yeah right.
I want Proxima to extract my specimen if you catch my drift
>>745872372Her probe would puncture your nutsack and suck it out directly.
>>745872220you equip them on weapon then spam L2
Soulsfriends are eating good lately.The first game being so rough made me doubtful it would even get a sequel. But holy shit did they improve compared to the first game. Maybe that EGS money really did help.
first boss that has killed me since the the first area although I whooped him right after. Got too cocky; these late game guys can smash you into Harbinger form in like one hit
>>745872658Why are we killing these people, anyway?
>>745872791they stole all the eggs so we can't make her eat all the eggs
>check infusion tarstones level 1 and 2>pretty sensible>level 3, permanentkek, that jump
>>745869776At a minimum he's one of if not the best exploration shell just because he can regen heals off of kills and even if he does get severed the harbinger still gets the full stock of normal heals. Do not underestimate his punch, that shit knocks down anything short of actual giant bosses(ie: the lost child) so getting them into death loops is super easy. Technically he also has the bleed/anti-bleed synergy but as the other anon said he really is another shell that wants you to be spending the majority of your resolve on his shell active skill.
Is leech bugged? I keep seeing it flicker between what I assume the max stacks are of 200 and an ever growing number that just crossed 1000
>>745872987It is weird and nobody knows how it works.
>>745872908It really does feel like the devs were balancing based purely off vibes alone. "What would be cool?"I kind of dig it.
Killed hexapod, after this there is a gate I didn't walk through in the abbey yet and one down south I haven't reached yet. Are those the last two in the game? I did all the northern ones.
>>745872021I think it would be better to implement a respec/refund systemyou can smelt weapons to reset them to 0 and refund materials, you can refund shell points, etc.makes no sense for glimpses to not be refundable
>>745873083Yeah thats kind of my issue IDK if its giving me just a little bit of extra safety or crutch amounts of extra HP. I still have death looming over my head at times so its not an insane amount but the bonus HP has for sure saved my life a few times
>>745873638That's dumb for glimpses in particular because it's just busywork. Let us unlock all the shell stories faster. Ideally as fast as the shells are found. That improves the sense of plot development and encourages experimenting with the shells as you find them.
>>745873653You'll naturally be cycling through the tarstones to upgrade them all. Enjoy the vague effects of the leech stone while it lasts. You won't look back once you get the double attack stone for the axe and katana.
>>745873731true actuallythen yeah I think making them a drop or at least letting you buy them from merrick or something would be ideal
>what if we made king thwomp but also gave him a big swinging nutsack>and then after you go and fight a big dragon by repeatedly stabbing him in his nutsack
>what if we take the first game and just copy paste everything 100 times over
>>745873798Just let us accumulate XP with the shells by playing with them. Temper them at breakpoints for memories.
>>745871534>proximaguess i'll go get her.everyone keeps talking about how good she is. not even a coomer>>745871656>refunds resolve for any kill made with a ranged weaponcool. nice way to encourage use of guns for 1shotting or finishing off enemies
>>745873638Or they could've at least doubled the amount of glimpses you get in the game or something.Right now the amount you receive is really criminal, feel bad for the guys who spent them on locating Shells.
what do they eat?>>745874538they got refunded as it costs gloom now, which was a great change
>>745873864That sounds like a good idea.>shell builds XP and levels, hits a ceiling which is tied to the shell point tiers>temper by spending glimpses+gold/gloom to unlock next tier>balance the glint cost for tempering to make it so you can max at least the majority of shells in a playthrough, combine this with a shell point rework that gives each shell an individual point pool to play with you so you need to refund and respend when equipping a new shell
Alright yeah this is the exact kind of jank I was looking for thanks gragu
I don't care if Gragu is better, I'm going to play generic knight man Eredrim and like it.
Smert is fun but when fighting crowds I have a lot of trouble with fistmode on so I'm just using Axe & Dagger. He absolutely clowns on bosses but these southern enemies still just completely fuck me up when they're all rushing and overlapping attacks between my timestops.Once I've got his tier 4 unlocked I'm gonna track down Genessa, her shadow clone stuff seems really cool.
>>745871779>you died
>oh nice you can refund mats and gold you upgrade weapons with at a cost>+16 weapon costs 55k to refundniggawhat
I explored the whole map to get everything before doing any of the gates so to avoid being overpowered and to grind tarstone xp I'm doing them with the shells/weapons you find nearby and/or ones that got cool tarstones in the previous gateIt seems kind of ridiculous that the axe has a crazy ranged attack and can also apply curse
>>745875060i heard genessa got issue with her abilities atm
>>745875042Just have fun.
>>745875060If you get overwhelmed as Smert, freeze time then hit each person 20 or so times before backing off and restarting.
>>745875085>Playing pirated copy.They patched the smelting cost to be easier, like everything else.
>>745875123>I explored the whole map to get everything before doing any of the gates so to avoid being overpoweredYou need to do one of the gates to unlock fast travel and make the tarstones upgradable. Also you've just made yourself overpowered for the boss gates anyway.
>>745875212you do realize you can patch a pirated copy, right? I don't patch because they gutted enemies and bosses on top of the other changes
>>745875249I did the first one because it was in the demo already
>>745875263what a fucking faggot you are anon
>pirate game>see official update, seems like sensible stuff>supposedly you can pirate the updates, but the downloads don't seem to be working for meanyone else tried this?
>Gragu's alt color/shade doesn't come with an on-color option for the helmetIt makes sense since its considered a mask but man thats lame as hell
>>745875372nta but I pirated it because I don't want slavs to have money
>>745875042everyone thought Eredrim was better at first, and a lot still do. He's probably better still if you're not so good at the game because he's tankier, ends up with better heals (when you have 8 regular eventually), and doesn't have to recharge to fight a boss he died on>>745875263still in the tutorial, huh? Don't worry, when you get out of it the patch only has good changes
>>745875393i got it off cs rin without any trouble yesterdayi agree that the changes are sensible and i had already killed the 2 nerfed bosses so w/eProblem is that people report that the game is crashing a lot more with the patch, its not happening to me but keep it in mind>>745875424i pirated it myself i was calling him a faggot for his coping ass lying postdude has a +16 weapon and is concerned that the game nerfed 2 bosses that he has already killed and 3 bitch ass random mobs while taking a huge step on fixing game economythat guy has no idea how to patch his game until somebody uploads it to a torrent site
>>745875521>nerfed 2 bosses that he has already killedstupid fucking retard they nerfed the last boss as well
Wait a minute, this game is mid as fuck
>>745875521I don't know how to patch the game without an uploaded torrent :(I just want the stability fixes....
Are we finally getting games with sexy stuff again ? Is woke truly over ?
>>745875521mmm, i'm trying with these elamigos stuff.i mean, the downloads work fine, but when i try to apply the patch it doesn't do anything.the filechecker thing doesn't seem to find the required files despite them being there.i'll try again, if not maybe i can ask if you could share the update files you used?
>>745851450>nerfed all the bosses and enemiesGood.
Dev surely smoked something when making those movement, lock-in and camera>instead your MC rotates and walk toward camera when you push analog down, character walks backward>game tries to do soft lock-in whenever you just trying to swing freely>when you lock-in, camera somehow takes time to readjust itself>oh, want to lock-in to nearest target ? lemme lock-in the distance one instead>combat happens on the slope terrain>the hitboxes ignore the terrain, plus camera still behave like you on flat area>every single of cinematic attacks
How's the gore?
>>745875545yeah, his HP because it was bloated as fuck you stupid ass bitch. You're still going to die in one hit to him and seethe on Reddit about it, retard
>>745875603You probably DL'd a virus.
>>745875641Camera is so weird in this game that im not even sure if half the issues im having with it are from the game or from my controller being old and busted
So how much glimpses do we get? I kinda want to try out fist-only with smert but I heard glimpses aren't unlimited
>>745875764you'll max two out before endgame's last stage, 3 if you comb the map 100%
>>745875587ofcalso the seal remover is outhttps://www.nexusmods.com/mortalshell2/mods/102
>>745875759Just get a new controller with HE or TMR sticks.
>>745875694It's like Gears of War 1. Enemies dismember, split in half, bleed a lot, and explode. If you are wearing a white robe, it can become slick with red blood.
>>745875808>also the seal remover is outAw fuck, i have to make a new version of the meme now. Thank you tho
So I've cleared out most of the northern map and unlocked row 4 of Proxima's passivesBut now if I want to try out a new shell, among the five I've found, I kinda need to unlock their 4th row as well, for them not to feel like shitBut that's gonna take fucking forever, probably by the end of the game, just feels super dumb I already got 4th row on one, so it's not like it's a balancing issue of me getting over leveled. Why can't I have it on another? If the shells were starting classes, and demanded for a new playthrough to play as a different shell- this would make senseBut the game gives every impression of wanting us to play as different shells and swap between them. Which just doesn't seem to be functional in practice Why the fuck does the skill point stay in one shell when I switch to another? Are they fucking think I'm going to divide them between 2 shells, when I can refund them with one button press?This is just a hassle, forcing me to take the skill points in and out whenever I switch shells
>>745875861Hack your glimpses.
>>745875791Alright I might hold on then, I think gragu is gonna be one of my main dudes so I'll max him out first and decide on smert and potentially lazlo later
>>745875587>is woke truly over?https://x.com/MortalShellGame/status/1267879584701100033
>no jumping>no attack canceling>magnetic hostile attacks with perfect trackingIs this the souls-like experience I keep hearing about?
>>745875753eh, i did get it from cs rin.i'll still run a scan.i'll try one last time, worst case scenario i might live with it, or god forbid, BUY the game
>>745875935
>>745875830Nice. Lords of the Fallen 2 (3) will have dismemberment too, so hopefully other soulslikes will copy them.>>745875939>no jumpingGood, jumping in Elden Ring looks ridiculous.>no attack cancelingGood, actions have consequences.>magnetic hostile attacks with perfect trackingBad.
>>745875968there were people in cs rin talking about having to add 2 lines or something like that with one of the patchers? just give the thread a read over see if it helps
>Charlie liked it and made a video>already higher CCU than Lies of P so the sales must be good>now it's going to get even more Shazamposters lost. Pack it up. Back to the 'cord and refocus on GTA. You lost this one.
>>745875935aaaaaaand dropped
>>745876045Man I hope the Leekbros will leak GTA VI ahead of release. Really take the thunder out of it.
>>745876092I doubt it. Then they can't grift money
>>745851354>retarded difficulty like lies of pwut?
>>745875808Good. Now I just need a hyper ass Proxima mod
>>745876194Why do people keep saying this? How big are we even talking?
>>745876226BIGGER
>>745876045>sales must be goodThat's a shame, it means the price will barely get down during Steam sales like Baldur's Gate 3 and Expedition 33.
>>745876226At least this big
beat the first one, final boss was easy af. will probably get this game when it also goes on sale for 5 bucks
>>745850514what am I in for?
>slowly refills health based on weltcaps foundI got 77 of them and I don't get more than 1/3 of my life backprobably means that the moonshine damage reduction is pretty shit as well
>>745876434>5 bucks>>745876292
>>745853131>hitstops>slowdowns>janky animationsJust like every souls slop game. Atrocity.
>>745876472If I get that can I play the original version before the baby nerfs? I want to actually beat the game
>>745876472>15Mb/s
>>745876130its by far hardest souls cone i played, only game where i had to replay final bosses a dozen times, and then there is the dlc
Is Rukh just the bird or also the skull in his mouth
>>745876497Monster Hunter has all of that too.
>>745876504Yes, it's not patched.
so does anyone have that mod that sexualizes the harbinger?
>>745876473You could back up your save, then test out giving yourself 1000 weltcaps and seeing if that does anything.
>>745876514There aren't enough seeders to max out my bandwidth anon, it's not my fault>>745876504I actually would prefer the baby nerfs, I can't really be fucked to get repeatedly gaped for muh prepare to die hardcoer dark souls epic gamer experience, but I will put up with it if the game is good
If nothing else I do appreciate that NPCs do react to some extent to the shells you wear around them. Like I wasn't expecting to have the nameless disciple at marrow keep suddenly loredump me on his backstory when I brought smert home. Makes each of them feel more part of the world.
>>745851005>AI slopNigger Vitaly Bulgarov is the game directorIf u dont know he is u ought to stfuhttps://vitalybulgarov.com/
>>745876258Requires impregnation immediately
>Nexus mod made Proxima's alien head look a little less alien>Added jiggle physics to fuckin metal body armorone step forward two steps back
>Bing Bing Wahoo boss
where's the key to this crypt?
>>745850514is there a waifu? if no waifu no buy
>>745877157There's anything worthwhile in the crypt. Ignore if you dont have the key already.
>>745876258>>745877198
Is there a big frog in this game like the first one?
Just beat the game, I'd say it was a 7/10 experience overall.>ProsFun as fuck exploration and combat, weapons, sidearms and character abilities are all unique.Lots of enemy designs and cool bosses>ConsBugs, pretty inconsistent balance and slightly too much HP on some bosses and enemies.Lots of weapons never get used because you're so limited by money and upgrade materials you can only really max a single weapon.Interestingly I felt the fast weaspons hit basically as hard as the slow ones, making them way better. Is that just me or anybody else felt so?
>>745851354>like it or not there are dozens of soul clones, ones that have 10x better gameplayThey should be, that's how things improve and get better.
I can't wait for waifutards to get NTR'd by based shopkeeper man
>Ravaged Grisha TwinsHow the fuck are you supposed to fight both in this small arena
>there is some kind of textile printing facility here that is making skull print fabrics
>>745877406
>>745877157Here.
>>745877316Yes. It's the same frog, in fact.
>>745877406I dunno, maybe stop time, then punch one of them 100 times, summoning 30 of your own grisha?
me when I see a big frog
>>745877328>the fast weaspons hit basically as hard as the slow oneswhat slow weapons? Everything feels the same
>>745877560You can stop time? I'm level 10
>>745877328Slow weapons got access to other tearstones like the throw weapon stuff etc which are pretty strong and usefulbut in terms of melee normal hits fast weapons are way stronger
>>745877198there's also a masked girl who gets her tits out when you get knocked down instead of turning back into the harbinger
>>745877697>there's also a masked girl who gets her tits out when you get knocked down instead of turning back into the harbingerwhat
devs have a fucking explosive barrel fetish, it's just everywhere all the time
>>745877406i used a slightly upgraded proxima to stun/slow and knock them both down over and over by spamming her ability that makes her immune to stagger and take 50% less damage
>>745877732why can you not target the barrels with the right stick when enemies are around?free aim sucks
>>745877732it's mostly early game but I agree
>>745877732>didn't even kill the archerI thought ranged enemies must be weaker than melee ones but rusnigs just think different
>>745877776you can
>>745877646One of the shells (Smert) has Za Warudo as a skill. They can stop time and punch the shit out of anything, at the cost of half their health.
>>745877732it wouldnt be so bad if they didnt instantly and unconditionally fuck your shit up
>>745877869i could only lock onto barrels when no enemies are nearit will rotate between the enemies and ignore the barrels
>>745877729this was literally the best picture i could find i haven't unlocked her yet but she take her cloak off and gets angry
>buy game>start download>realise it's going to be an irritating slog>refund and cancel downloadI need to stop doing this
>>745878076I play for 10 hours and then quit at least you got your money back
>>745878076>be retarded>retardation runs wildsounds awful, my condolences
>>745877491thanks
>it didn't do phase 2, it just stayed alive at 1 hp until I let it kill melame, one of my first bugs
1050ti bros, we fkn play!
>>745878393he would be retarded if he didn't refund
Playing Tiel felt like cheating. Constantly in the shadows assassinating enemies with insane back attack crits. I really enjoyed stealth in this game, felt impactful and fun. Too bad it seems to be bugged because enemies just keep attacking in your direction
>>745851450I think it was just the early bosses that got nerfed. Mobs are the real threat anyway and can 2-shot you.
>>7458518282 early game bosses were slightly nerfed, and a bunch of the very strong early game mobs were justifiably nerfed. And they made some weaker tarstones better. Makes total sense to me.
>>745879148>>745879258Monolith, one of the most annoying end game bosses got a big nerfwhat are you on about
>>745879084it's intended, they're looking for you. If you stealth out of sight, they don't swing at you until you hit them
>>745853837Harden works great when you wanna spam your attacks since it works mid attack animation. Ideally you whack a guy while perfect hardening to blender them. Great for slower weapons where you get stuck in long attack animations.
>>745879298>big nerf>some hp>still attacks as fast as before, still does as much damagedid you even beat him? Let's see your achivement
>>745879497anyone complaining hasn't actually done that fight yet. They made it so you have to do 5 rotations of its mechanic instead of 6, which is still more than most bossesand it's still a gay fight
some of the visuals in this game is honestly fucking sick. You could tell the devs were inspired by rock album covers and 80s scifi.
>>745879497>Let's see your achivementlol
>>745879748oh ok, you didn't even fight him like I said. Thanks for confirming, thirdie.
>>745879084Stealth being impossible unless you play Teil was gay. I didn't like how the game has no backstab mechanic.
>>745879771if that makes you happy
>>745879605That is one big ass.
>>745850514It's the first time a soulslike has soul.
>watch a review>constant praising of no actual substance>yet the only actual feature that get highlighted is the lack of a stamina barReally? Is this all it takes for people to lose their shit for a yet another souls game?
>>745879810exposing people LARPing as 'hardcore' when they haven't even killed the boss in question does make me happy, yes. Thanks for asking.When you get to him, you'll probably understand why they tapped him the way they did and not the other harder bosses in the area.IF you get there (unlikely)
>>745880026you sound fat
I farmed 50 grisha remnants
Watch and learn brethers
>>745852993I think at this point souls clones can still be somewhat fresh it's just more dependent on artstyle and environment design over gameplay. I don't get why all these indie clones wanna copy not only the gameplay experience but also the atmosphere and aesthetics of souls games too, just do something completely different and people will be drawn to it just for the novelty
>last boss jumps around 50000 feet so you have to chase him aroundFUN, just like monster hunter!
>>745879605this looks completely devoid of any visual creativity what are you on about. How many times before have we seen fucking floating blocks like that in video games? there is absolutely nothing about this screenshot that screams originality to me. Not to hate on the game but that is just a truly awful example
>>745850514This is as much of a soulslike as Sekiro was, at least this game has combat variety.
so what does the slayer amulet do exactly?is it just easy mode or is it some alternative path?
>>745879073>1050tiDamn, is it that well optimized? Steam says minimum is a RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB or AMD Radeon RX 6600.
>>745879605This game looks like someone prompted AI to create a game about Zanzibart and Myrmidon of Loss
The big giant npc egon or whatever in the castigator castle is bugged right? Giving him gloom returns 2x to you with a max of 10kHowever if you give me any number less than 10k everything doubles once you give him 10k? I just got 40k
>>745878005This is an enemy, no?
>that last bossshit was so gay, taking a point away for that7/10, pretty good, stop making godawful last bosses
>An abbey that is home to a sisterhood of warriors and is covered in red flowersIsn't this wholesale lifted from Lords of the Fallen? Not to say that LotF invented those elements, but all of them being true at the same time is a bit funny. Not a dig against the game btw, I just found it pretty amusing how blatant it is.
>>745881676the dragon? lmao you just have to avoid his fire slam thing at 50% health and ~20% health. he doesnt even hit you if you hug his testies
>>745880359it's the game's central themes. It reminds me of surrealist painters like zdzislaw beksinski. Besides scorn and wuchang's final area, I want to see more of it in games.
>>745881850Probably not the red flower thing, but an order of warrior nuns is a pretty common trope in fantasy. Although the sisterhood here reminds me of the ones from the dune novels, the honored matres.
>boy, i'm down to half-health and a single heal, i hope i don't run into bullshit>mfw king's crypt or whatever it's called with a bajillion traps, kamizaze guys out the wazoo and a couple of big guys with the halberdalso, whoever put the item that teleports you to gay baby jail on the other side of the map, fuck you
>>745880035>exposing people>on an anonymous basketweaving forumlollmao even
>>745881850I'm pretty sure that place is meant to be a homage to lords.
>>745882290>it's still mad hours laterlollmao even
>>745882347*farts loudly in your face*Heh... now what, dork?
>>745882340looks more like something melania related to me
>>745882484>now it's RPing its fetishlollmao even
I think I finished the first legion(half the game)
>>745882484>>745882573You're both useless faggots.
>>745882643turn both your monitors on, lil bro
>>745879605Fat ass. I will now buy the game.
I dont want to die to another random barrel explosionPlz no morePlease
>>745881625thats genessa
>>745883539Maybe stop hitting the barrels?
So the corrupted gates (just reached the first one) are the dungeons that progress the story/open new zones?
>>745883947I think after the first one you can progress in whatever order you want, you just need the ability to cleanse corrupted bullshit that walls off the paths out of the starting area.
>>745883947Yep.
>>745884027>>745884034ty
>hexopod is a relatively easy boss moveset wise but every hit is a 1 hit kill at lv35Why do they balance shit like this. 1 hit kos aren't fun. At least leave more room for errors goddamn.
>>745884027I was able to cleanse the south gate on the tower immediately.
>>745884117You made a lot of errors if you let yourself get hit.
I wish we could hang skill issue poster upside down by the balls from lamp posts
>>745884178>that's still a pretty shitty way to go about things. Why even have hp at that point when most things, especially mid-late game kills you in 1-2 hits anyway. This is probably the only soulslike where I think the RPG aspect is almost completely tacked on so much so that they didn't even bother with a stat system.
>>745884117Not one of these souls clone games I've have struck a happy medium with damage, Fromsoft also fucks it up often enough as well. Since I realized Bloodborne emulates really well I've been going through it with my first proper playthrough and man a lot of shit is just unfair.I'm looking forward to playing LotF2023 after this and seeing if they figured it out or not.
>>745884117the 1 hits are fine. the devs want you to think outside the box and make use of other game mechanics. like the weapon ability that inflicts Weak stacks which make the bosses do much less damage to you. it might not be the hardest hitting Resolve ability but it will keep you alive.also another thing is that when you cast these weapon abilities you get iframes for as long as the animation lasts.
>>745884282>Tiel lets you stealth>Smert lets you freeze time>Proxima lets you mitigate damageYou made a lot of errors if you got hit.
Got the hammer and I'm really sad.
>>745850514Is it better than Lords of the Fallen mk.2?
>>745884608nah not even closeit's still decent
>>745884330it really isn't because what happens is that the game turns into a case of just abusing buffs and debuffs to win. Is that really what you want in your action game? Fighting bullshit with bullshit? It's kind of thing that you see in challenge runs, not the first playthrough.
>>745883868but anon, they are EVERYWHEREi just died to some barrels that where behind a wooden door, so i swing my weapon break the door and break some barrels and dieSo sure the next time i stand back and shoot the door but it felt cheap as fuck
>>745856178But I haven't unlocked Laslo or Tiel yet anon..........I'm forced to play Proxima here.
>>745885058dry lips man
>>745884297if you're referring to gascogne, that's the point where the game won't let you go until you master the parry system.
>>745884775nta but I like fighting bullshit with bullshit, it's just pure fun and I play for fun, not for arguing with trannies on mongolian basketweaving forum.
>>745885125I'm after bloodmoon.
>>745850514The runbacks are fucking AIDS tier
>>745877198There is
>>745853131KinoRollslop could never
Guys I can't concentrate on parrying, Proxima's huge asscheeks are getting in the way of my concentration.
Can I refund shell point?
>>745885414Oouughhh SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
Went south prior to hitting the 3rd gate in the west so I can detour and grab the axtana and genessa, maybe just me playing poorly but yeah the southern enemies are on average way tougher so I think I did make the right call to run the game counter-clockwise as sorta it seems to be intended. I just want to ask though why the genessa boss fight for the censer was such a joke compared to literally every around it. Also whats the deal with genessa. I vaguely remember her mentioning that she was a fragment of the whole in early dialogue. Is that why her prompt to switch to her is phrased as letting her control the harbinger and why shes able to remain alive and conscious while being a "shell"? Also goddamn I gave him a chance because it sounded funny but vratko is a real freak while washing her toes.
>>745885414>>745885547She's already taken and used goods
>>745885536I'll allow it. Only once.
>>745885732As a level 99 rapemaster with hundreds of prior convictions, this is not a problem.
>>745850514>no character creationinto the trash and instantly worse than any Souls
These threads made me realize I really, really fucking hate this worthless zoomer infested niggerhole now, because I really like this game and want to talk about it but every fucking thread being spammed is just the same retarded regurgitated bait posts or could-be-a-fucking-bot meaningless short posts shat out from a smartphone about THIS LE SHELL HAS LE BIG ASS or whatever. Fuck all of you, fuck the nigger jeet hybrid running this site, I enjoy video games too much to be wasting my time on this pathetic shell of what used to be a good site. The internet is completely fucking dead, fuck all of you obnoxious sacks of shit talking like a video essay you were conditioned on since childhood because you were raised on a fucking smartphone. I can't fucking wait until the day this shithole dies.God I fucking LOVE video games so goddamn much it's unreal.
god i wanna dig my nose into proximas big fat gyattler
>>745886032See you tomorrow.
Looking at genessa's skill tree I'm a little baffled at how risky it is, that I wonder if the payoff is any good. So just as a baseline she's the only shell that cannot be restored because she doesn't get severed, a downside during exploration if you're carelessly blown up by a barrel but otherwise not the biggest deal. That said what the hell is the skill node that locks you into stray form? From what I can tell she doesn't get the shell HP bonus while stray so I'm really hoping theres a big payoff because from what it looks like shes too much glass not enough cannon
My Triarch Repeater is not strong like everyone else's and I need a hug
>>745886125Fuck you nigger, this fucking sarcastic back handed bullshit is exactly what I'm talking about, you don't hate yourself or feel shame at all over what a fucking nigger you are, instead you feel the need to do some gay clapback sassy bullshit. Worthless sack of human fucking garbage.>>745886089EPIC FOR THE WIN BRO LMAO!!! XDD LE COOMER SKIBIDI LOL!!!
>lil bro wouldn't tap allat booty
>Multiple loading screens of Lazlo posing with the axatanaThey really hate weebs lmao
>>745885414
>>745886917>Face is red>Tits outThis isn't my Genessa.
>>745886670i couldn't you'd literally need an angle grinder to get through that armor
>>745886670>>745886917Did they fix the female walk animations yet?
>>745882340That's Farum Azula.
>>745881102silky smooth 25fps
>>745887201Yes.By yes I mean no. However, the more profound answer is that you are wrong to assume the female walk is wrong to begin with. Proxima is an alien with big lats. She's not gonna walk like a normal woman.
>>745881102>Damn, is it that well optimized?it runs like shit
I remember once I tried to copy my mom's "walk animation" because I noticed it looked different than a man's when she walked me to school one time and my dad called me a faggot and hit me so hard threw up and lost my upper and lower incisors
>>745886032newfag
>Proxima is an Ayye LMAOI'm sorry, WHAT?
>>745887645Works fine on my my laptop with 8400 i5 and 1050ti.Just accept you will be playing at 720p and 30fps. Turn down all the settings to low.>But-Shut up. You're playing a modern game on 10 year old hardware. Shut the fuck up.
>>745887328>She's not gonna walk like a normal womanI just came from the truck stop today and saw a young woman wearing yoga pants with ass and thighs just as big as Proxima's walking just fine. Don't make excuses for devs being lazy asses and reusing walk cycles/animations.
>>745887948>implying he leaves his houseBait used to be believable.
HUGE
>>745888164Not everyone is a jobless neet like (You), anon.
>>745888264Sure, dumbass-kun. Keep kvetching about how an H.R. Giger alien doesn't match your expectations of real women.
The castle and its surroundings to the lower east of the map after outskirts of mammon is giganticIt's nice how it's all interconnected but man the mini-dungeons are starting to suck
Will I enjoy Lords of the fallen if I like MS2?
>>745888194Imagine the milk, bros.Sweet and creamy, or tangy amd sour?
>>745888491>call out lazy devs for recycling and reusing male animations for females>ERM ACKSHULLY THE LORE IS BASICALLY LE XENOTRANSMORPHS SO FEMALES SHOULD WALK AND ANIMATE LIKE MALESWhy are you like this?
>>745888904Not sure. Shouldn't you be doing more important things than arguing about animations in a Vatnik video game at 11AM on a Bangladeshi marketing site, dumbass-kun?
>>745888665it's more like souls in terms of builds and weapon variety but I guess you'll like it? I like it more than MS2 but I'm not done yet
>Hexapod has an unblockable attack that flashes the red warning icon a full 1.5 seconds before the actual attack lands>The windup animation for the attack is a threatening advance towards the playerI know it's meant to be a gotcha but it's still fucking gay and I will never get used to it
>>745889124What about exploration? I enjoy games with good exploration like AI Limit from the recent ones.
>>745889301I played that game on launch and apparently the game has had a ton of patches? I liked it and the exploration is pretty average. MS2 does exploration better I think
this shitty little tent behind the snail took me embarrasingly long, didnt help that i didnt touch eredrim until new game+
Do the Chalice Dungeons have anything important like weapons or shells? So far I'm enjoying the game as long as I avoid the boring shit.Reminds me of Elden Ring where I got burned out by anything that wasn't Legacy Dungeon.
>>745889854weapons and tearstones, yesdon't think I've found a shell in one
>>745876553He's already sexualized, naked with a visible dick bulge.
>>745890667See this is why I gave my man some clothes once I found them. Having him run naked is just not family friendly
>>745889817God the dragonslayer looks awful in those proportionsThe actual martyr's blade is already the perfect berserk-inspired design, there's no need for a mod