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https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/the-duskbloods-is-a-switch-2-exclusive-because-nintendo-was-the-right-partner-and-very-receptive-to-fromsoftwares-weird-idea-says-hidetaka-miyazaki/
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>>745853569
Honestly with how gay Sony is over Bloodborne I could see them throwing it away for being BB adjacent.
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>fromslop
who cares
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>>745853569
so basically, he fleeced Miyamoto for an easy blank check
based MiyaCHADki
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Yes I'm sure Gabe personally smited Miyazaki for releasing something so unoriginal.
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>>745853569
I wonder how much AI was used in this game, whether it be from the dogshit enemy designs or gay ass character designs, it's all just shit and un-natural.
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>>745853824
Probably none
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>>745853824
no need to use AI when they can use the same DS assets they've been using for over a decade.
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>>745853824
>this fantasy game has unnatural enemy designs
Yes?
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>>745853569
>they were receptive to his weird idea
grim for the actual quality, that's to say nothing of goytendo's lack of power.
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>>745853569
Japs never give honest answers
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Based Nintendo still taking on risk for new and interesting properties. But it’s a Nintendo exclusive so the browns on /v/ are going to seethe.
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>>745853569
That's a pretty terrible reason for this derivative of asset flip nightreign that will be mediocre at best outcome that will sell like dogwater on a platform for people who mainly buy games for 8-year-olds, but sure.
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>>745853569
Whai is weird about the game?
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>Sony consistently ignore Bloodborne
>Miyazaki asks Nintendo to make Bloodborne 2
>DuskBLOOD uses a ton of unused Bloodborne assets

Bravo, Miyazaki
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>>745854072
The fact that Miyazaki thought it was a good idea.
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>>745853971
this
case in point: >>745854067
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>>745853971
>From
>risk
Are you stupid.
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i can't believe we have entered a timeline where everyone is pretending that a battle royale game with some flexible objectives is some super weird out there quirk chungus game idea
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>>745854184
Well known companies can make something different to the norm and it is a risk. They didn’t make Dark Souls 4 or do a shitty remake. Duskbloods is an odd game and it’s not guaranteed to sell and make line go up. Are YOU stupid?
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>nightreign 2 with pvp instead of boss battle
dead on arrival
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>>745854347
it has boss battles too and the final showdown can get replaced with a major boss too
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>745854347
But it has boss battles, retard-kun
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>>745854347
There are boss battles in it, retard-chan.
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>>745854347
You faggots will just say anything to try to shit on it just because you hate Nintendo and/or Fromsoft, huh?
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>>745854280
It's nightreign bloodborne edition, so no, there is no risk with from themselves. Their games sell, people like and respect them more than nintendo at this point.
The only risk here is releasing it on a platform nobody will buy it on.
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>>745854184
Yes, look at how many people are bitching because it's a pvp game instead of Elden Ring 2.
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>>745854195
it's because it's on a nintendo console
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>>745853824
No AI just tons and tons of unused assets from bloodborne and dark souls 3
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>>745854549
>The only risk here is releasing it on a platform nobody will buy it on.
That's only a risk if they release it on PS5 or Series X. Switch 2 has mainstream appeal as the Nintendo game to play new Nintendo games on, and Fromsoftware themselves are a pedigree developer with a legendary reputation.

It'll sell.
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nintendo was desperate for it, of course they were receptive to it. they dont have shit besides their first party titles and they're over the moon that a revered company like From would give them the time of day with their dinky twp console
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>>745853927
yu mean kings field recreations?
go watch a walkthrough of kings field 4 and they reuse so many ideas in dark souls
you can see how lazy they really are
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>>745854507
yes
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>>745853569
So now where are all the retards who were saying they were going to play this on PC in a year or two? Reminder that there is still no Switch 2 exploit or emulator for the foreseeable future.
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>>745854195
Do we know what it actually IS yet? Has the network test happened yet?
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>All this cope itt
I wish I could play it, but sucks that its shitch 2 exclusive. Looks weird as fuck which I like
Oh well, will look forward to their next project, probably buy it because they're the only big studio that makes consistently okay to good games despite the contrarians screeching
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>>745853569
Translation: Nintendo was desperate for anything to sell their kiddy tablet and fromsoft was able to offload one of their failed side projects for a good price.
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>>745854697
Kirby Air Riders City Trial - Bloodborne Edition
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lmao I'm crying it's Bayonetta 2 all over again
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>>745854184
the outcry against duskblood is that it isn't a safe dark souls 4/elden ring 2
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>>745854923
>>745854557
Nightreign sold.
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>>745854786
I wonder if Sakurai talked to Miyazaki one day, which gave Miyazaki some ideas
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>>745854958
Nightreign was multiplatform
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Ok...and? They still don't want most of us to buy it so less money for them i guess
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>>745854958
Elden Ring is the top seller on the eshop right now.
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>>745853569
>weird idea
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>>745854958
duskblood isn't nightreign
you don't lose anything if you die in duskblood, it just waste your time and enemies can get points off you
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>>745855001
Always a possibility, Sakurai definitely gets around when it comes to hanging out with other devs. Of course I oversimplified what Duskbloods is but that's the gist of it.
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>>745855048
>not duskbloods, the game that's coming out sooner
doa
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>>745853824
None.
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>>745855126
I don't believe your brain is getting enough oxygen.
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>>745855102
>phase 2 has crazy events that change up the map and gameplay
this sounds like something sakurai would inspire
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>>745853569
This guy could slap his name in a piece of cardboard and fromdrones would buy it in droves. Such a lame excuse.
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>>745855098
The point is it's just another from filler title. The only risk is releasing it on a platform where most people won't buy it. And it's multiplayer focused, making it even more baffling.
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>>745855098
So... it's nightreign, then? Why are you acting like a difference here or there means it isn't the same kind of game?
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>>745855161
concession accepted
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>>745855271
>why do you act like its different when it has differences
the only thing it has similar to nightreign is that it's multiplayer
and it's not even the same multiplayer, duskblood focus on PvP alot
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>>745854679
They are itt calling the game a battle royale after calling it a tarkov clone didn't work.
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>>745855271
Elden Ring is coming out (releasing as a full game) in like a week. Duskbloods has no release date, and Nintendo themselves just denied the rumors of a September 24th release date.

Elden Ring is coming out first and you are a slithering, idiotic retard. Get help from a professional, I'm sure your family (if you have any) is worried about your well-being.
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>>745855126
Anon, ER comes out next week.
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>>745854958
Nightreign doesn't have pvp lmao
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>>745855468
And? It's the exact same kind of game.
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>>745855416
>the map doesn't shrink
>you don't lose if you die, only when the phase is over and you don't get enough points
>"it's a battle royale!"
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>>745853569
right, so a huge studio can't make a game without bootlicking exclusivity onto a console? yeah no thanks
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>>745855530
>is a call of duty ripoff!!
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>>745855354
Again... do we know that...?
Put it this way, if it's a system where you queue into a match with a small party of players, traverse a semi-randomized map to fight monsters and bosses with the third-person FromSoft combat within a limited time to acquire equipment and upgrades with each run to power up for the challenge that the end, then that's fundamentally Nightreign. Those are the fundamental traits that make Nightreign Nightreign and not Binding of Isaac or something.
Okay, so when you die you don't leave souls on the ground that you can go pick up. That's a difference, but it doesn't make it such a different game that the comparison no longer makes sense. It's Nightreign. There are differences, but it's Nightreign. Assuming that IS what the gameplay loop is. Again, do we actually know that?
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>>745853569
>they approached microsoft first, but they said no
How can one man be so fucking incompetent?
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great. so some guy at nintendo buttered him up and got an exclusive. kinda stupid to limit your audience like that? surely everyone is willing to do a fromsoft game at this point. I hope it's another nightreign so I don't feel bad for not being able to play it.
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>>745853569
If this game sucks ass, all the drones can't deflect and say it was handed off to his second in command or whatever, like with DS2.
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>>745855126
Prolly because you can't even pre order Duskbloods yet
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>>745854736
It hurts to see a lot of what were probably covenant ideas get used in duskbloods from over the years of simple cops, invaders but purple and a small buff to enemies if certain conditions are met with mohgs covenant for invaders. The silver lining is anything that works really well and the community is receptive to will get used in future games since they are claiming they got away with trying out lots of things thanks to nintendo partnering with them.
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>>745854117
every from game from DS3 to Elden Ring is just a bloodborne asset flip
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>>745855501
Not in the minds of "red man bad" fromsoft fans. You might be surprised but that is greater than half of all fromsoft fans. I'd he willing to put money that 33% of the fanbase flat out hates pvp and will refuse to play a game based around pvp. 62% are ambivalent to pvp. Less than 5% of all fromsoft fans are pvp enjoyers. Not all of the 62% ambivalent will be motivated enough to want to play a pvp game. You're looking at roughly 60% of the fanbase realistically. Chop that up further with switch 2 fromsoft fan owners and it gets pretty bleak. I don't think duskbloods does nightreign numbers. Hell I'm expecting it to do AC6 numbers at best.
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>>745853569
Shareholders and investors want to milk Elden Ring or something and they probably wanted him to make Elden Ring 2 or make it more cinematic, etc. Nintendo has always been more gameplay focused, so it makes sense why they went with them.
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>>745855781
If this game is good you’ll call it slop and that tendies will slurp up anything.
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we're the duskborn we're the new porn
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>>745855781
DS2 was good, not the best one and certainly flawed, but good.
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>>745855676
here's what we know
>the end of phase 3 is a 1v1v1 and each player has two lives
>there's a system to go hunt other players for virtue points
>there's a system to marry other players for virtue points
>there's ways to explore the map to get virtue points without killing random mobs, since those don't give you points
I don't understand how this is nightreign
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Miyazaki and his A team will leave Fromsoft and create a new company under Nintendo, watch it happen in real time.
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>>745856174
Don’t worry, they don’t either.
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is nintendo netcode any good
I dont think I've ever played primarily online nintendo games unless its MK7 or KI:U but those are pretty old and simple
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because that is always good lol
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>>745856242
if the upcoming takeover of investors take place next year, it will happen very soon.
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>>745853569
>online only multiplayer slop
Hard pass.
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>>745853569
Second network test in 30 minutes btw
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Fromdrones are realizing the only god /v/ worships is Gabe.
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>"weird ideas"
>it's just copying and pasting western trends
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>>745856334
Sure let's ignore all the other examples of Nintendo funding a game like Bayonetta 2, F-Zero GX, Xenoblade, etc.
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>unique game with unique mechanics made at a reasonable pace and on a decent budget
>this is now bad according to the third worlders of /v/
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>>745856481
>kirby air ride city trial
>western trend
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Nintendo is the only gaming company that matters.
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>>745856174
Ah okay, I see.
If points don't result in game wins, I wonder what they're for. Maybe buying/unlocking shit between matches? In any case that sounds like a fundamental difference from Nightreign, yeah, moreso than not dropping souls when you die. If it's a free-for-all at the end then the game is incentivising selfish play rather than cooperation, but you'll get more points for cooperating, so it sounds like there's a push-and-pull involved. That sounds neat, assuming it works as intended.
But yeah, I concede, this doesn't sound so much like Nightreign that they could be described as very similar games. Seems like the main overlap is just the concept of a multiplayer matchmaking and time-limited runs (and the actual gameplay).

>>745856246
I was just responding to the claim that "it's totally different because you don't drop souls when you die". I was asking what we actually know about the game the whole time, no shit I didn't know.
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>>745856334
So it IS a risk then? People say they want companies to take risks instead of making boring cinematic slop but when Nintendo have done it everyone gets mad and naysays it. This place is full of retards.
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>>745856563
>but you'll get more points for cooperating
one of the dev played with the game journalist and went head hunting
it gave him tons of points, the other plays had to team up against him since he kept killing them all
this game makes some wacky situations on the fly
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>>745856597
>So it IS a risk then?
nintendo is basically picking the scraps
and right now gaytendo is anything but risk
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>>745853824
I can fell the incontinent seetjing from that post
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>>745854786
Is it really like that? not a fan of nightreign but this sounds interesting
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>>745856821
The scraps of completely dominating two generations in a row?
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>>745856526
>getting real boss baby vibes from this
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>>745856848
>the map randomizes item placement
>different mini-bosses can randomly appear, and everyone can choose to kill the boss or not
>map has randomized NPC summons, and the NPC levels up with you, you can switch out which NPC you want
>forges, loot, and items can power you up
>last phase takes place in a free for all arena
>phase 2 has a randomized event that changes up the map, like loot beetles appearing everywhere, or everyone can now call down an orbital strike
it's surprisingly a lot like city trial
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>>745856302
nope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQ-HHE503Q
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>>745856242
I hate acquisition faggotry but this would be a good thing unironically, I fear for Fromsoftware while they're being held by Kadokawa
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>>745856819
Wouldn’t they want dark souls 4 then? Or bloodborne 2? Or Elden Ring 2? If it’s scraps why would it be an original and risky idea?
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>>745853569

This doesn't look great for him if it fails though.
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>>745857480
At least he’s trying something new. You’re insane if you think that a creative game from a respected creative failing would mean his reputation will be tarnished forever.
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>>745857608
Dragon's Dogma 2?
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>>745857391
>If it’s scraps why would it be an original and risky idea?
because it got rejected at other places and gaytendo is desperate?
not the first time this happens
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>>745858161
Why is nintendo desperate? They're doing just fine right now. You are beyond mentally ill.
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>>745857814
If Itsuno announced another game, everyone would still be interested.
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>>745853569
Is that Yoko Taro?
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Does this mean the Recluse is gonna be in Smash?
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>>745853569
>weird idea
>its just nightreign again
why are japs such lying hacks?
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>>745859080
No that's Emil
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>>745858996
>no response
heh
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>>745854786
If they had balls this game would be more like City Trial actually.
>hit the jackpot with overpowered 99 STR ultra greathammer build
>random final event is Race Across the Rafters
>get sniped by a greatarrow and lose in 10 seconds
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>>745859282
"very receptive" means "gave a lot of money" this is corporate speech
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>>745853824
LMAO Western fags frothing at the mouth when JP designs with human ingenuity
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>>745859282
>its just nightreign again
why are anons such lying retards?
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>>745859367
What the fuck are you talking about? I directly replied to you? How is there no response? I asked for clarification about your baseless assertion. Absolute dumbass.
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Funny how everyone would be on board with this game if it was a multiplat but since it's a Nintendo exclusive people have to nitpick every little thing they can to pretend it doesn't look good.
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>>745859749
You are full grown man.
You should have grown out of console war kiddie shit by now.
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>>745859491
>bald dude in pajamas
>human ingenuity
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>>745853569
Isn't Nintendo's C-suite full of foids now? Miyazaki certified fuckboi
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>>745859908
Isn't he saying that the console warring is pathetic? Sounds to me like he's the one that's grown out of it as opposed most of the spastics in this thread.
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Fromsoft reps could walk into any publishers office, hand them the most dogshit idea they could imagine, and the reaction would still be called "very receptive" to the idea.
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>>745853569
/v/ is gonna seethe so hard when this becomes the kino souls dueling game
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>>745855185
g-grapes are for browns...
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Just self-publish, for fuck's sake. That way you can do whatever you want and sell to more people.
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>>745856497
all shit games with niche sales

bayonetta 3 is garbage
xenoblade 3 sucks, genesis will too
f-zero gx is 20 years old
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>>745853569
I feel like this and Nightrein are Fromsoft trying out new ideas that they're not sure about and don't want to commit to a mainline game.
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>no one tard wrangling Miyazaki
uh oh
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>>745861492
>we need MORE corporate meddling
there are plenty of moviegames out there for people like you
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>>745853569
>my CRAAAAaaaAAAZZZY idea to make the exact same game again!
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>>745861820
Could you openly state what game it is exactly like and explain why it is exactly like it?
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>>745854639
NTA but I really don’t expect it to sell well, switch 2 owners are really know for playing souls like games
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>>745859749
exclusivity is cancer

it's not complicated
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>>745862240
it's gonna sell extremely well in japan
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>>745853569
The best thing you can tell an artist is "we're not doing that"
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>>745856242
that would be the funniest fucking thing if that happens
the double dose of seethe from anitNintendo and antiFrom fags would be glorious
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>>745862240
.
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>>745859282
Even if that were true, it was obviously pitched long before NR came out and did well. Fortnite Bloodborne IS a weird idea.
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>>745862438
It’s always people who seethe about Nintendo having good games that say this because no one else has a single exclusive worth playing
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>>745859372
You're not wrong, luckily the final version of the game will have more of those final phase events. Got close to winning twice
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>>745857608
>At least he’s trying something new.
LMAO
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>>745857814
Dragon's Dogma 2 ain't even bad, just an unnecessary and downgraded retread of the original.
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>>745854647
He probably means that they've been flipping most of their animations since DeS.
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>Just self-publish dude
>Why not use their own money to do this?
The idea was pitched before they got Elden Ring money, and even then most of the ER money went to Bandai Namco.
If Nintendo agreed to fund the game, it is Nintendo taking all the risks because FromSoft already got paid.
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I remember when ds2 came out and they said we have dedicated servers now the pvp will be good and over a decade later it's still the same awful predictive garbage from demons souls.
Sadly, I think this game is DOA
I will buy a switch 2 for this game if it's good though.
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>>745854571
It's a Fromsoft game on a Nintendo console, that's double pretending it's never been done before and so original
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>>745855914
From's PvP is total ass so it's understandable. You could play literally anything else with PvP in it and it would be better.
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>>745863495
Shh anon, stop with the truth bombs or you will ruin their narrative.
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>>745863495
Nintendo is so great
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>>745863278
I supposed a big part of it is it's hard to justify spending $800 on a system with mobile phone hardware that runs everything at sub-30 fps.
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>>745863583
I'm not a PvPfag at all, but let's not get hyperbolic here. It's still better than something like, say, WoW's PvP.
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Oh no...
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>>745863672
Depends on the expansion, and even though I haven't played WoW in over a decade I'd surmise it's better than ER's purely because you don't have invaders showing up with maxed out inventories and twinked stats on top of shit balance, just shit balance.
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>>745853569
It's exclusive to Nintendo because the game is a training exercise for their B-Team hence they have an excuse for it looking mid as fuck
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>>745863495
Exactly. If the game flops, Nintendo loses. Miyazaki already got his bag and a game he wanted to make without Sony being a bitch.
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>>745863718
>tranny journos hate it
that means it's a masterpiece
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>game literally wouldn't exist if nintendo didn't pay for it
>UMMM SO WHAT? EXCLUSIVES ARE STILL BAD
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>>745853645
You'd think they would've wanted it given they spent the entire generation trying to push the fuck out of liveslop and exclusives*. Then again, I doubt From would even accept gibs from Playstation again after all the stupid bullshit they keep putting them through.
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>>745855185
grapes are poisonous to foxes though
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>>745863750
there is opportunity cost, and things like withheld bonuses if score metrics dont get hit. Though after Elden Ring popped off i dont think this studio will ever be allowed to make a game after Duskbloods that isnt another 400+ hr open world.
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>>745863718
This you?
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>>745855868
That shows you just how much got cut from Bloodborne thanks to Sony's constant meddling. Even Duskblood's PvP focus is BB cut content: most of what they wanted to do got replaced with chalice dungeons because that's what Sony wanted instead, and fromsoft had to comply because they were making the game with Japan Studio.
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>>745863780
Yes one of the world's currently highest esteemed developers absolutely need a major company to sponsor them to be able to make a game
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>>745863986
yikes, trannies are desperate
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my initial impression after going through the tutorials and playing a couple rounds is that Duskbloods is cool and unique, but i really wish it was co-op like Nightreign, instead of a Souls PvP game. everything else about the game seems great, but i just have no desire to PvP in general, and especially not Souls PvP.
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>>745863670
Then don't. If it's so bad, it's a no brainer. What's the problem?
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>>745864042
Xbox and Sony were not willing to greenlight this, retard. It actually is because of Nintendo's backing.
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>>745854786
Is that what it is? I'd buy it just because of that
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>>745861761
>worshipping le heckin auteur delivers us from movie games
Explain MGS
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>>745853569
I fell asleep while watching Rata play this shit. Can't wait to see it floppin.
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>>745862654
That's actually a good game unlike the duskflops though
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>>745863718
>0 days since polyfag seethed over Nintendo
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>>745864132
Did they need them to make Dark Souls or Elden Ring? Clearly not.
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>crazy idea to make dark souls but pvp
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>>745854195
Even weirder cause it's on the console where Kirby Air Riders is one of the only things to play.
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>>745864082
If you can't see the problem with that you're a genuine gen Z retard.
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>>745864145
It's not as manic or fast paced but you basically power yourself up for 3 rounds, 2 players eliminated phase 2 and 3 eliminated phase 3, and then a final match occurs. For the stress test its just a 3 player free for all but more is getting added in the final release.



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