>Could've hard Lord of the Rings or Star Wars>Instead get Warhammer Fantasy and 40k
>>745861542>Star WarsEugh
>>745861542>Lord of the Rings or Star WarsThere is nothing these slop franchises offer more than what WH Fantasy and 40K have.
>>745861542>Boomer ahh fantasy shi that doesn't offer anything WHFB didn't>Franchise that has utterly shit the bed and produced nothing of value ever since Disney bought the IPHrmmm yes I am sure these would print more money than 40k ever would.
>>745861542>Star WarsFucking disgusting. Never post on this site again.Anyway someone tell me how to do this creampie thing on Warhammer 3, it keeps crashing for me. Am I doing something wrong?
god i hate star wars fags
>>745862883Get the latest .zip from cs.rin, that's probably the issue
>>745863430Which thread is that on that site?
>>745861542I wouldn't mind LOTR just because I hate Space Sci-Fi. But Star Wars is probably the worst popular Space IP ever.
>>745861542Is OP a complete troglodyte mentally retarded fucking subhuman?He seriously argues he wishes he got right column in pic related instead of left, and thinks this would have been an improvement?
>>745861542>could have had LOTR (instead of Warhammer fantasy)WH Fantasy is just fun LOTR with more variety.>star wars (instead of 40k)I can only assume this is an ironic shitpost from the levels of contrarianism.
>>745861542They could have won the fucking Internet by doing Genshin Impact: Total War.I just don't understand why nuCA hates money
>>745861542The only total war I want them to re-do and heavily expand on is empire
>>745863786It's mostly probably your blood files>WhereThe Warhammer III thread on cs.rinI grabbed the files from user "p3508967" on page 140, both of them, the wh3 bashiva zip and the bloodgod zip, chucked them both into the root folder of wh3 and all unlocked (on steam, you might have to do something different on epic)Usually when a big update happens or you verify steam files for whatever reason you would need to update/replace both the creamapi and blood files
>>745861542>Lord of the RingsWould be called an ambitious mod of TWW3.>Star Warsshitty franchise for boomers. No one legitimately likes Star Wars. Either they were teens when one of the series came out and got too into it, or they are just into "big popular things"
>>745861542My dude, not only do we already have a LOTR total war game, it is also free and possibly one of the best Total War games ever made.
>>745861542>Nearly all promotional material has started by being Imperial Guard focused, showing off terrain, movement, different forms of engagement, units, etc. all from Guard PoV first before showing off other factions second>Assurance that all factions will play very differently, showcased exceptionally well with how the Orks have to fight against the Guard in such an asymmetrical manner>Cover mechanics, army functions based on unit LoS, ranks, etc. all accounted for, actual tactical unit placement makes for a substantial difference in battle>The literal only people mad about this are histoids(cuckolds) and Star Wars fans(boomer cuckolds)I think this one's gonna be alright.
>>745865394SOON BROTHERS
>>745861542Star Wars was or is still being worked on. Many leaks happened for it the last year or two.
>>745861542This entire thread is fucking crazy. 40k is orders of magnitude more popular than Fantasy, and Fantasy was ALREADY the best money maker for Total War in its entire history. Reason to worry is CA's incompetence, not the licence.
>>745862080Retarded and delusional. Warhammer is bargain bin slop and just soulless ripoffs of those much better settings.
>>745865543And yet Warhammers potential moneymaking is infinitely larger than either of those franchises combined when it comes to total war.
>>745861542we fuckin won
>>745865495warhammer also has the benefit of retarded players who yearn for more dlc
>>745864572Thanks, I'll give it a try
>>745865543And yet not a single LOTR rts has ever been as successful as TW Warhammer is. Sounds like you're the coping retard to me.
>>745865495>>745865640>tfw salivating just thinking about all the chapters DLC they'll have for 40k
>>745861542Honestly I'm glad they didn't touch Lord of the Rings. That's best left in the hands of fan modders with actual respect for the source material. In Sega's hands you would get brown elves, heaps of female troops in Rohan because "oh Eowyn was there so it's normal," etc.>>745862080Anon I love 40k but it is the most sloppy fictional universe in existence, it is like if you threw every fantasy and sci-fi universe in a blender. There is barely a single original thought in the entire setting.>>745861593Star Wars has been raped so much as a setting that it wouldn't make any difference at this point, on the other hand.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pGz5sfYgiTgI neeeeed it now...
>>745865975Haha what a stupid faggot, Space Marine Shills will buy any-->There's a nonzero chance of eventual Farsight Enclaves or Tuska Daemonkilla DLCFuck
>>745861542I'm totally gonna buy it and play it, but I don't understand how 40k is going to work with a total war game. It's all about unit formations, so it works will in setting like Rome, Napoleonic warfare, Medieval and the Warhammer fantasy settings, but I just don't see it working with 40k. I'd be like if they did WW2 or some shit. That style of warfare just doesn't fit the core gameplay. Plus, is it all going to take place on one planet? Is every faction going to be fighting over the same planet at the same time? It doesn't make sense.
>>745866150When you think about it if the goddamn Chaos Dwarves became a faction in TWW literally nothing is off the table as DLC.
>>745865975lol imagine thinking anyone here would buy the DLC. It will all be in the game the same as it is in fantasy. We don't have to pay for shit, just unlock it.
>>745866150>>745866265I'm excited for the really niche shit (if we get there) by CA/GW
>>745861542>wanting star wars
>>745866237Have you not looked into any of the updates on the game yet? They've shown a really extensive range of adjustments to showcase how it'll work beyond just being dudes lined up in ranks shooting like Napoleonic soldiers. It's also definitely going to be fights over many planets in a larger scale system. https://youtu.be/exGVokQjtnchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w6bB1McmzM
>>745866237>Plus, is it all going to take place on one planet?Hopefully not. They did it with Dawn of War and that was dumb. WH3 has a huuuge map so hopefully they will make it in the whole galaxy. Not sure how they will do the tyrannids if that's true though. Maybe they won't have planets as staging points and they can just come up or down from the outsides of the map
>>745861542>Could've hard Lord of the Rings or Star Warsholy fucking cringe. As cringe as warhammer is, it's nowhere near as cringe as either of those franchises have become now and you look like a massive faggot for wanting either of them.
>>745861542>LotRtoo similar to warhammer, people would complain that it's "the same game again">star warsstar wars is a shit franchisewhat we really need is Empire 2
>>745866398I take back everything I said.This is going to be PEAK holy shit That battlemap is impressive as hell
>>745866398that looks really shit. It looks way less complex than wh3. Fantasy has a rock-paper-scissors element but this shit is just 2 sides shooting each other with the most strategic things possible being >get cover>attack from the flank to get around the covergay
>>745865495Nu 40k is dogshit marvel slop who gives a fuck about sales? Also CA is incompetent to an insane degree and the game has to run on consoles lmao
>>745867116>Also CA is incompetent to an insane degreeNah they made WH3 and that's a great game except for a couple of mistakes they made that pretty much only happened because of that faggot youtuber who bitched about seiges.
>>745867306Wh3 isnt even the best warhammer game retard
>>745867496Yes it is. I like wh2 and kept playing it long into 3's life but there's just too much stuff in 3 and it outweighs the bad stuff about it now. The worst thing about 3 is the sieges but the sieges in 2 weren't anything special either so it's only a slight detriment
>>745861593Maybe we'll meet in a bar.He'll drive a funky
>>745861542Neither of those IPs are conducive to total wars gameplay as they're binary conflicts with only 2 major participants.The only way star wars would work is if it took place in the old EU during the imperial civil war
>They should've picked my setting/historical period no one cares about other than meWarhammer was the perfect pick for total war
>>745869086>total wars gameplayThe only unique gameplay is the battles and that's always 1v1. The rest is map painting shit and how would that be worse with only 2 factions as opposed to many?
>>745861542I would rather they made their own fantasy setting, add monsters, magic, but keep units looking like iron age people from Rome 2. But that's not going to happen. Got bored by kitchen sink fantasy setting right quick.
>>745870132sounds like you just don't like the names of things in TWWH. I don't see how this >fantasy setting, add monsters, magic, but keep units looking like iron age people from Rome 2isn't just a reskinnned TWWH without guns
>>745870293No, TWWH is a kitchen sink setting, you have meme looking not vikings, medieval elfs, early modern empire and so on. I don't like that sort of mish mash. And designs are cartoony. I want iron age (maybe bronze age or early medieval fantasy) with MOSTLY realistic and grounded look, but some fantasy elements, like magic. It's just not going to happen, normalfags wouldn't care for it, it's basically a setting in my own head
>>745861542Star wars in total war would be retarded and 40k is aids setting, but i would give a lot to play lotr.
LOTR is a slop franchise only third worlders enjoy at this point .. if it had been LOTR you'd be having nigger elves and other bullshit
>>745870764>at this pointamazon made one shitty series and you suddenly hate the entire story and setting lmao easily-manipulated retard just hand over everything you like to people you hate right now if it's that easy for you to give them up
>>745870925its a finite world anyway, everything about it is solved, it has no mystery. DnD or 40k is infinitely more interesting then Christainity 2 electric boogaloo
>>745870957yeah that's why nothing new should be made about it but that doesn't mean games based on what's already there can't be good, especially RTS games with all the battles that take place
>>745861542I vaguely remember a not!LOTR mod for M&B:W which was really good. I can't say I loved it but it somehow worked. I think a smaller scale strategy like that could work for LOTR, just assembling your wandering band of hobos and fucking around the map. A large scale strategy where you are a general commanding whole armies would make it less... magical, so to say.
>>745861593FPBPLast time Star Wars was cool was before the prequels in the Dark Forces era
>>745870464>It's just not going to happen,Depends, there might be a proper LotR mod for Med 3 coming eventually.
>>745871451Problem with LotR mods is that they use movie aesthetics. So you have early medieval Rohan and then plate armor Gondor, urukhai. It needs to be all early medieval.
>>745871492because plate armor is fucking cool and you're a fag if you don't like it
>>745871540no u
>>745870957Speak for yourself, fag. I'm having tons of fun with the Battle for Middle Earth games.
>>745861542>lotrnothing they could add that TWW3 isn't already doing>SWagreed but WH40k is already coming. still, space battles would've been kino just like in SW:empire at war
>>745871492>early medieval Rohan and then plate armor GondorYes because Rohan was founded by the Eorlingas who settled the area after leaving their homes along the Anduin. They are 100% local humans while Gondor is a descendant realm from Ancient Numenor who were on a whole different level when it came to warfare and metalworking.
>>745871492I've only watched the movies but it makes sense to me that a bunch of village dwelling horse fuckers wouldn't be able to produce arms and armor to the level of the gigantic fantasy city faction
>>745871589nuh uh
>>745871761I know of those things. But as far as I remember books never mention plate armor, so it's out of place for any faction.Doesn't really matter that Gondor is more "advanced" because LotR as a setting stretches out for thousands of years with not tech progress.>>745871818Maybe, maybe not. I don't even care to argue, I just don't care for stupid kitchen sink settings where it's early medieval stuff next to late medieval or whatever else. Sick and tired of that shit.
>>745871818why and how do you think cities exist? They make shit you can't make in small villages by concentrating skills but they can only exist with the resources produced by those small villages and the small villages can buy the advanced products from the cities. Retard
>>745861542>there are fags who care about shit warsHonestly people with taste as shit as yours deserve a console TW.
>>745865543I'm sure you can elaborate on your reasoning, anon
>>745871934I started playing RTS games on ps1 lol it wasn't THAT bad. I will never go back but still, the only real difference is PC is more user-friendly
>>745871887Did you sign your post there retard? Edoras is Rohans capital and largest "city". That tiny hill fort. Are you implying there's another gigantic industrial area?
>>745871761>>745871818Numenor, and by extension Gondor, never had plate armor for the same reason that they never had guns. Tolkien deliberately kept the tech level early medieval to give it a Norse saga feel like you would find in Beowulf. Peter Jackson turned it into generic high fantasyslop.
>>745865543>40k is a ripoff of Star warsPeak ameribrain comment
>>745872070>no argument in sightThat is why and how cities exist, retard. It doesn't need to be stated that trade exists and Rohan doesn't need a giant city like Gondor to thrive. You wanted Tolkien to explain Aragorn's tax policy too, I guess?
>>745866265Did they really mispell dwarves like that?
>>745871934Never watched DisneyWars, I care about Old republichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8S0cEvJxJY
>>745862080Idk I think when it comes to worldbuilding, Star Wars is vastly better than 40k, probably because 40k started as satire, whereas Star Wars always has been sincere. But for a video game 40k is a fine choice.
>>745872919it's not mispelling. Dwarves in WHF has always been called dwarfs.
>>745873065I wouldn't say that. Star Wars was whatever bullshit George happened to cook up at any given moment up until the old EU tard wrangled it into something cool.
>>745861542For like 20 seconds, in my head I was like>aww sweet I just remembered that Total War 40k launches in SeptemberThen I remembered it's obviously September 2027. Then is gonna be delayed to "Spring 2028".Being a retard sucks at times
>>745873159Nah the cool was there from the beginning. The bullshit George came up with was and still is good.
>>745873170at least you'll probably be alive to see it. Not me dag nabbit
There is already a Star Wars Total War called Empire at War
>>745861542>LOTRNobody gives a shit about this setting unless there are hobbits>SWLOLMAO
>>745861542>Star WarsIt's just Empire vs Rebels or Republic vs Separatists or, god forbid, First Order vs Resistance. Eventually you can add Mandalorians and some kind of crime syndicate like Hutts or Black Sun. That's not enough.
>>745873839>2006 gamethere are three DOW games and 4th is on a way, modern SW rts could be kino toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i00s--GdIzE
>>745873159The EU is the bullshit in Star Wars, tho
>>745861542>warhammer fantasybased, feels like it was made for total war>40kI only have a mild interest in 40k, I might give it a try if CA doesn't completely shit the bed and it's as sovlfvl as DoW1/2>LotRyou only need the M2 mod>star warsdead franchiseIf you want to make a new nonhistorical total war then I would prefer if they took R2/M2 unit rosters, add in mythological/fairy tale/pop-culture creatures, and slap them back onto M2's map. Like Dominions except with no age splits. Straight up have Arthurian England right next to Celtic droods.
>>74586208010/10 bait, got them to respond seriously.Respect.
>>745874839>R2/M2 unit rostersare people supposed to know what those things are?
>>745875068Rome 2 and Medieval 2. You know, the TOTAL WAR games?
>>745875106I didn't know either desu. 40k is going to bring a lot of first time total war players in.
>>745875106that's why I always put TW at the front. It's not hard to actually be clear in what you're saying. Two extra letters was all it would have taken.
I want every secondary Total War fan to LEAVE
>>745862080they really thought movie slop could compare to a game first IP
>>745875106I like the Warhammer games but I miss when Total War was for people who liked history only, and not low IQ fantasöy-onlies.
>>745861542It's hilarious how hard Disney and whoever owns Lord of the Ring shit the bed. I remember how prominent they were in the early 2000 and now fucking Game workshop is eating their lunch.
>>745866265You say that, but I'm sill annoyed we are never getting dogs of war.
>>745874125It amazes me that nobody at Disney can look at Empire at War somehow still have a presence on Steam and not do something with the IP.
Thoughts on the Army Painter?
>>745865479>still coping
>>745876198based
>>745861542>could've had millenialslop no one has cared about in a decade>or could get something thats popular right nowYeah?
Lord of the rings is a shitty setting for total war game.>Bad guys get all the cool monsters and technology>Good guys get dudes on horses but slightly betterWarhammer is so good for video games because they made sure every faction has cool shit. 40K humans have tanks and shit. Fantasy humans have more advanced technology with guns and gunpowder and shit. Fantasy elves have dragons. Fantasy dwarfs have airships. Etc.
>caring about Nu-TW when we have M2EX and REXI chortle.
>>745876309The main advantage of Lord of the Ring is that it's a very solid setup from a gameplay/campaign perspective. Most of the mods highlight this.>Main conflict is Mordor vs Gondor, which Mordor is poised to win hard. >Rohan starts off weak and has to deal with isengard, but once done can start assisting Gondor and trying to turn the tide.>Dale vs Rhun is a cool side theater. >Dwarves are going to have to slowly fight goblins across the misty mountain while also dealing with the armies of Rhun.>Elves are around everywhere trying to support human factions.
>>745876529None of that matters when the roster is boring for 1 half the game's factions and the other half gets all the actually cool shit.Also you can literally just play that mod.
>>745876608>None of that matters when the roster is boring for 1 half the game's factions and the other half gets all the actually cool shit.Eh... I don't mind that as long as Rohan gets good cavalry and Gondor gets infantry that is actually worth a damn fighting Orks.
>>745876132It's weird to me that so many WH games have this when it never ends up being anything in the game. I get that it's a reference to army painting irl but it's just needless fluff and isn't detailed enough to capture the reason nerds paint their little toys
>>745876741In WH games your color is supposed to be determined by the faction you play. Like, Reikland is going to have red outfits.
>>745876680Everyone with a brain does. The good guys in LOTR are so outmatched it's just stupid. It doesn't fit in a sandbox game like total war.
>>745876741If they are indeed ripping off Age of Wonders with faction creations then it will finally be useful
>>745876789You see, the problem is I don't actually like Total War being a sandbox, I don't think most fans do despite their claims, and Lord of the Ring works because it's a much more guided experience.WH1 has a lot of problems, even compared to the two sequels, but the game being far less sandbox esque and far more guided is it's biggest strength.
>>745876783these things are for making your own sub-chapter I thought
>>745876983They are, I'm assuming.Long term I imagine every fucking Space Marine chapter worth their salt is getting their own DLC. But in the short term a army painter is a good idea.
>>745876198The posts are right to. 40k looks bad in tw. At least what they presented so far. If you think otherwise you are retarded. Even art is all fucked. Look at the "cities". Copypasted empire/vamp counts but high tech skin lmao.Inb4 work in progress cope.
>>745861542>wanting to ruin lotrwhy would you want that
>>745861542Warhammer is literally made with war games in mind. You have a million factions and units. LotR or SW are nowhere near as fleshed out.>but muh EU!90% of that shit is even dumber than Disney garbage.
>>745877825I actually agree. Modern war with insane firepower simply doesn't work in a game like this. Some guardsmen running around when 20 lasers blast at them and barely does anything just looks bad.
>>745861542>lord of the ringsWhat would they do that m2 mods haven't already? Seems a bit weak>star warsA lot of potential I think, but between disney and ca I think they'd ruin it, I think they'd need to make it largely original for it not to be two boring sides, and that won't sell any toys
>>745877825Posts were wrong about every single thing. 40k looks absolutely amazing and has far more depth than any previous Total War, while being on a new engine>Copypasted empire/vamp counts but high tech skin lmao.Nothing about that is copy pasted lmao. All of those are new assets
>Star Wars >two factions, one infinitely more powerful>like 5 units per side unless you dig into comics and other retarded shit
>>745861542LoTR will happen at some point I'm sure of it, Slop Wars on the other hand has no chance, they're working on 40k for at least 10 years.
>>745878169>depth>strategy boils down to take cover or flank covernah
>>745872919Tolkien coined "dwarves". elsewhere dwarfs was always correct
>>745861542Game of thrones would've been the best Total war option. Still relatively grounded instead of magic and monsters everywhere (a couple of dragons about). Strong faction identities and more of a focus on diplomacy and heirs.I enjoy total warhammer, its ambitious. the models and animations are great. But the gameplay is piss poor, map ai is still as bad as ever. Power scaling means theres no room for tactics shit just blows up or gets routed in an instant.Alas GOT shit the bed so hard everyone memory holed any care for it. HotD is surpisingly good though.
>>745878169>40k looks absolutely amazing and has far more depth than any previous Total WarLet's not overdo it. You sound like someone whose one and only Total War game is Warhammer.
>>745866265Cathay is more suprising than CD. they were literally nothing. Chaos dwarves shouldve been basegame but that doesnt sell to the bugmen.
>>745878258I'm playing since Rome 140k is the Savior of Total War and nothing can change it>>745878226It has every strategy previous TWs, but more with properly destructible terrain and gimmicks only futuristic setting allowsWe know this already
>>745878336>I'm playing since Rome 1sure buddy
>>745876741I don't really see your point at all. picking color schemes needs to lead into something deeper? if youre talking dawn of war the color picker is for skirmish battles so you can be whatever chapter/craftworld/etc you want. if youre talking space marine you make your own marine to do coop missions. should they have just forced ultramarine schemes on everyone instead?
>>745878241Honestly I'd rather have straight historical total war before anything Game of Thrones.
>>745878196>>two factions, one infinitely more powerful If they were to do star wars they'd just have to set it in a period where that isn't the caseMaybe something like post palpatine imperial collapse, largeish republic but with too little and weak military to step into palp's shoes vs. a swarm of imperial remnants trying to expand vs. various newly and historically independent ayylmaos and criminals
>>745878463cope cuck40k, the greatest setting ever made, wonTW40k is already a masterpiece
>>745878568No point, I just think it's weirdI played that 4x game made specifically to mod into a 40k game where you can actually make a chapter or a sub chapter and that was the only time I thought it was a mechanic worth anything. Also I have no friends so I didn't know about those multiplayer mechanics. Thanks for rubbing it in, jerk
>>745878967sorry anon I'll be your friend
>>745878947What does that sentence mean in english? What information is meant to be conveyed?
>>745880525
>>745880525Eastern European cope, judging by "Mediaval"
>>745861542Total War Warhammer is kino I love it but I wish they would fix the map for 3TW:40k is DOA console slop
>>745880668>TW:40k is DOA console slopIt's already objectively superior than TWW in every single way though
>>745878309Cathay would have been better as a game 1 race. By the time third game came out the design philosophy was so rigid that the faction felt too rigid.
>>745880594Im not the first guy youre responding to, you wrote that nonsense up and im asking what it means
>>745881047follow the reply chain
It's going to be Darktide all over again.40kids that never had any interest in the game (Vermintide, Total War Warhammer) lured in by their shiny spessh murheen with oversized guns, then bitching that:>the game isnt fun>the game doesnt play like i thought it would>the developers are idiots>why are mods taking so long to come out>it's better than fantasy because muh emprah but at the same time it's disappointing>it doesnt have my [insert boring fanfiction here]>why is the game playing like [every other game that came before]? it should play like [preposterous and asinine changes]>lol no one really liked fantasy bud, people only like 40k and finally the developers are listening>whats with the dlcs? why do i have to pay 30 dollars to play as my favorite recolor of this army?>yass furr da emphraah xxxDDDOne of the worst fandoms meets one of the worst modern developers.It's all so tiresome, yet it will be at least mildly amusing
>>745881121Deldar are better in every single way than Delves
>>745880696>a game that isn't out is better than one that isI can tell you are a consoomer with this statement alone
>>745881153you should kiss the ground fantasychads walk on.if it werent for fantasy to give you literally everything you know today you would have fucking nothing.so behave, shitstain.
>fantasy studio that was doing extremely well for more than a decade finally gives 40k fans some attention>YESSSSS WHY ARE THE BEST LMFAOOOOOO FANTASY SUCK!! EAT IT FANTASYNIGGERS 40K IS THE SUPERIOR SETTING!40k fans are the vegans of Warhammer.
>>745881214Of course. You don't have to play the game to know if it's good. Everything can be seen before release. I can tell that next snoy game will be a garbage moviegame without even watching trailer! Everything can be seen before you even play it. Taste is objective and measurable. Features listed and showcased already make it OBJECTIVELY better.TWW killed and dumbed down Total War series, removing massive amount of features. It was a disaster.TW40K is reviving it, arriving with a brand new engine and expanding on actual gameplay features which were needed.>>745881279Fantasy was always a low effort slop without any soul to it, nor any thought put into it. Fantasyniggers shouldn't be getting uppity, now they will be put into place
>>745881473Your mother and father will die in their sleep tonight, no immunities.Unless you apologize for posting such insane drivel about Fantasy.Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>745861542warhammer is just an inferior copy of 2000ad
>>745861542nu-CA can't into good games so any IP would have been inherently shit
>>745862189what's the point of saying "ahh" and "shi" if you still say shit in the second green text anyway?you know zoomers only say "ahh, shi, dih" because of censorship, right?
>>745881523GW wanted to axe WHFB in favor of Necromunda long before End Times and 8th edition alreadyFantasy is a soulless slop. It never had consistent setting. No care was ever put into fleshing out it's factions. Out of pity it was getting backported 40k lore scraps into it just to give it any flavor. It was getting retconned completely every edition. Even world map is sloppy.Delves are a lazy, boring moorcock plagiarism without any spin on it. Deldar are an EXTREMELY imaginative take on Fey. They are, objectively, better.
>>745861593Fpbp.
>>745861542>Muh IP slop vs even worse Warhammer IP slop Remember when games could do their own thing and still sell well
>>74587605440Knigs acting like fantajeets did when WH1 was new is the greatest schadenfreude, and I say this having put hundreds of hours in every WH title. The Milanese send their regards, fantakeks.
>>745881795Posts like this one are more embarrassing from every vector of perception and intent than the posts they respond to. Truly, human communication is a horrifying mess of varied experience and resulting misinterpretation. My condolences, retard-kun.
>>745883304Accidently used terms from friend group A with friend group B
>>745881473Split screen Medieval 2 would be dope as fuck
>>745881823>ESLlmao
>>745881470History repeats itself, huh?>historical strategy studio that was doing extremely well for more than two decades finally gives fantasy fans some attention>YESSSSS WHY ARE THE BEST LMFAOOOOOO HISTORY SUCK!! EAT IT HISTORYNIGGERS FANTASY IS THE SUPERIOR SETTING!
>>745861542Warcraft
>>745861542With as much money as they have, compared to when they made Shogun Total War, they should be making multiple games every year, not picking between historic, Warhammer and 40k, and they should all have a lot more content.also they shouldn't have made Rome Total War's interface gay like they did.
>>745861542Total War games actually suck and TABS is not very different from these
my favorite total war is napoleon
>>745861542That's rare. It usually are the historical Total War fags who hate Warhammer with a passion.
>>745885545>they should be making multiple games every year, They're currently working on 40k, Fantasy and Alien Isolation 2.
>>745861542why do people pretend like star wars is good? the lore is just a bunch of shit Lucas made up on the spot and then later retconned a million times.to put it in the same category as lotr is a sure sign of brain cancer
>>745885803>They're currently working on 40k, Fantasy and Alien Isolation 2.Then they can make something for OP, too.I've only ever played the historical games, btw. It doesn't bother me, because underneath, it's all the same game, anyway.
>>745886181CA got cut apart hard after Hyenas was cancelled, they're not as big anymore as they used to be. I really think 3 games is their limit.
>>745886254I can't help but think somebody at SEGA browses /v/ because that shit got cancelled without a moment's pause unlike Concord and Highguard.
>>745867116CA is as bro-tier as a corp can be. They constantly update the game based on community feedback and they publicly own mistakes>ubisoft>EATotal war fans don’t know how good they got it
>>745887031>CA is as bro-tier as a corp can be.
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>>745887031I want Rabbids Total War and Tony Hawks's Total War, and if OP wants Star Wars Total War, he had better accept my offer to attack you for 1 denari and map information.
>>745887379you are brown lol
>>745887442no u
I can't wait to play it on my phone using the cloud, and owning nothing but a thousand dollars worth of game and DLC licenses.
>>745887031>CA is as bro-tier as a corp can be.Yeah, the bro that dumbs down and trivializes every aspect people liked, castrated modding, sells you "lord packs" at 1/4 of a full game's price, and makes you pay for blood effects that are a staple of the setting. What a lad!
CA was always a dogshit retarded devhouse and TW was always a mess.Med2 was the last one where they at least put some effort into the game.
>>745865394>trusting CA implicitlyThey’ve fucked up bad before, they’ll fuck up bad again.
The gameplay CA showed stuttered like crazy and u can be sure they used 10k PC to record it. That game will be unplayable mess with barely functional AI
>>745861542You can’t have lord of the rings star wars because star wars is a fake setting. The things that actually exist are a tiny fraction of the purported setting. What factions would there be? It’s literally just clone era Republic, CIS, Empire (republic reskin), and Rebels, which don’t have a military. You can’t make an entire army out of Jedi and Sith.
>>745890671Er, total war star wars. You can have a lord of the rings setting but you’d be piecemeal inventing every army unit subdivision. Everyone just brings their best and most elite troops all the time, there’s no tier one elf or dwarf.
>>745861542Honestly, who cares?When was the last time a total war game was good? Shogun 2? >15 March 2011oof.
>>745870925The mtg set was also nogged up despite wizards not doing that to other crossover sets, meaning it's a Tolkien estate directive. An official lotr game would be minimum 50% nigs.
>>745872106My brother in Eru, Numenor had steam-powerd ironclad ships.>Our ships go now without the wind, and many are made of metal that sheareth hidden rocks, and they sink not in calm or storm; but they are no longer fair to look upon.
>>745861542Would've preferred LoTR and Game of Thrones. Hell, maybe even Masters of The Universe.Still I think 40K won't be as successful as TWW trilogy.
>>745878309>Cathay is more suprising than CD. they were literally nothing.Cathay did have a presence in WHFB, but apart of some models, some lore and items used by others (notably the now mythical Cathayan Greatsword by Ogres which is still bizarre for me that no Cathayan infantry unit is armed in it and I could clearly see Celestial Dragon Guard doing their best Greatswords/Blademasters impression).Hell, if I remember well, CA had to go as far as 2nd ED Warhammer Fantasy to gather Cathay stuff up to 8th ED.Now Vampire Coast/Vampirates are also a big thing. And they were simply a supplement for the Vampire Counts until CA expanded on them.
>>745878309>>745894920BTW, I still hope we get Araby, Ind, Khuresh and Nippon.And nobody will tell me any of these are out of the question.Especially when lore is still actively made for them and old one is revised for The Old World.I mean what would be the point of going more into details on the wars with Araby?Even more so that GW did say they will go into other parts of the Old World once they finish with the legacy factions.
>>745894563nigger please. That segment is in a scrapped draft who are you trying to fool?
>>745861542I dont care about the 40K game for a lot of reasons. I don't think modern firearm war suits total war and misses the whole vibe and point, and I don't really think 40K works as a setting for a conquest map painting game because of the nature of the wars.You're not playing as like Athens fighting and conquering Sparta, where you really feel like youre building a faction up and gaining these victories. If you control some space marines youre just a tiny part of a vastly bigger faction being dispatched on, in the scheme of things a local errand. It takes a lot of the satisfaction out of itBut Warhammer Fantasy is an absolute pitch perfect setting for this, way, way better than LOTR or Star Wars. For one thing its the right kind of formation warfare, but also you play discrete entire factions, groups and states with discrete and fully visible territory. If you conquer a neighbouring faction by turn 4 and double your territory, that was your independent decision by you and your (mostly) independent guys, its a big deal to your faction that would be remembered as a great victory and major historical event, and you can tangibly see exactly what you've gainedFantasy was also originally conceived of and designed from the ground up to be the exact perfect kind of context for a game like this. A million little factions and at least somewhat independent subfactions all with enough background the focus on and pick to identify with as your guys. Dense constant competition and conflict all over the place between vastly different but in many cases pretty well developed groups. The worldbuilding is supposed to accommodate looking at it from different angles and from countless and very different, local perspectives. The worldbuilding of Star Wars or LOTR arent like that in the same way, to the same extent, because they weren't conceived of and developed virtually from the start as background to a well detailed global context of constant conflict and interstate anarchy
>>745866150If they make a major DLC with a new map that's just the Sabbat Worlds crusade from the Gaunts Ghosts books they've got me. I don't even know if I'm going to play the game at all right now but they do that and they've got me.
>>745861542LOTR could have been cool but heckin star wars? That's a hard pass and Sega made the right call.
>>745861542I had a flu induced fever dream years ago that I saw a trailer for a Final Fantasy Total War game. I still remember it vividly because it was just that kino.
>>745861542Meanwhile Star Wars has a whopping four factions and only two of them can be active at one time. The units would suffer from the same problem, the CIS is the only faction with real unit variety.
>>745899847>the CIS is the only faction with real unit varietyThe CIS is easily the best.
>>745885665historical total war fags have given up on the series after TW greece and china happened
>>745900360The CIS:>B1s>B2s>B2s (Rocket launchers)>B2s (Jetpacks)>B3s>Droidekas>Magnaguards>Commando droids>Tactical droids>Super tactical droids>Demolition droids>Dwarf spider droids>Crab droids>Buzz droidsMeanwhile, The Cuckpublic:>Clonemanii>Clonemanii (rocket launchers)>Clonemanii (jetpacks)>Clonemanii (miniguns)>Clone commandos>Clonemanii (red)
>>745861542>>745900984I'm genuinely looking forward to Total War: Warhammer because its new engine is going to get rid of the stupidity of different weapons being entirely new units that can't swap weapons between battles. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to swap my Demigryph calvary to lances or halberds between battles and let them keep their stats and experience.
Only played TWW2 years ago on release for a few hours and hated it, mainly because of the vortex gimmick shit, this was my only TW game I ever played and now I found out I got TWW3 for free, I can play the big mega map with no bullshit gimmick like vortex right?
>>745903081The big mega map with no bullshit gimmick is the only part of 3 that you got
>Drukhari at least 3 years after releaseshits fucked
>>745903156That's good then because I hated the vortex gimmick, I just want to map paint.
>>745861542Both are better, slop wars is especially shit>>745861593
I still think that, even assuming that "dualshocker" didn't made this shit up, their leaker simply confused 40k for Star WarsCadians look similar to Endor RebelsSentinel looks like AT-STEven lasguns now look similarPower Sword can be mistaken for a Lightsaber for absolute normalfagsAnd those are the people they often take for alphatesting. There was a behind the scenes vlog about TW:Troy where they said they got people who don't play video games at all to test how approachable the game is. And those people couldn't figure that campaign map works in turns. Bulgarian said that it took over an hour for some people to figure they have to press "next turn" to progress further. Which is why they had to redesign UI to make pressing next turn more obvious. This is the sort of a person who could leak "star wars" to those journosAssuming they simply didn't lie
>>745876132I play black heart kabal irl so i dont need it for my faction, ill be the default color scheme when drukhari dlc drops
>>745900984>Cuckpublic>ClonemaniiTee bee yaych I think cathay and chaos dwarves have shown CA could probably spin that out into an actual fun rosterI guess they could add on at least>regular republic troops (maybe you have to use them in a campaign until clones are made)>alien ally troops like gungans (maybe local recruit)>vehicles>jedi units
We have Medieval 2 mod for LOTR which is already more kino than anything nu-CA will makeStar Wars Total War would be gay as shit though with like 3 interesting factions, just play Empire at War or something
>>745905089Im convinced that the anon asking for total war star wars, dosent even onow about EMPIRE AT WAR lmao
>>745905089>limited so hard by the engine Galadriel only exists as a housewife for Teleporno>kinolmao kek
>>745880353why'd you wait until I was gone to say that
>>745862080ThisWell, LotR to Warhammer Fantasy, at least. LotR has spiders. That's pretty much it. A LotR total war would probably have a spider faction eventually, that Warhammer Fantasy doesn't really have an equivalent to. Everything else, warhammer fantasy has, and has more variety in. And the better story and nuance of LotR would be lost on Total War anyways.Total Warhammer would have flopped if it had been LotR, because Total Warhammer is an incredibly shit total war game, kept on life support because smashing a T Rex into elves is funny, and without that there's nothing the game has going for it.Warhammer Fantasy was really the perfect candidate for a silly Total War game because it has literally everything, with almost zero attention given to cohesiveness. The plot is an excuse to bash your figures together, the lore exists to justify why anyone will fight anyone, or handwave rats having machineguns. 40K will be shit because GW is interested now, and GW has the shit midas touch. Total Warhammer only worked because GW had already written Fantasy off, and was contractually bound to not give a shit even after it did surprisingly well.
>>745878241GoT killed itself with the last 2 seasons nobody cares about the setting now.
LoTR wouldn't make for a good Total War experience if you adapted it faithfully. The series is simply not about playing tall. You have to expand and paint the map to optimize the economy because there is no empire size malus. That constant expansion works for evil factions in LoTR, but the good factions tend to start next to each other and would block one another in, like Dale and Erebor. And there's the fact half the map is mostly deserted ruins outside of some midgets, a single inbed town and maybe a bunch of Dunedain huts somewhere. To make it work you have to sloppify it so much I'd rather just have Warhammer.
How anyone can still play these games post Rome 2 is beyond me. This franchise has been so utterly slopified, watered and dumbed down it's travesty. CA's designers are the most incompetent retards on the planet. They don't even play the games they are making. TW Warhammer is neither a good total war game, nor a good adaptation of Warhammer fantasy tabletop game and setting. It's just garbage made for drooling retards who only care about looking at shiny models. Call of Warhammer for Med 2 is still the most satisfying Warhammer experience you can get from this franchise. Other games aren't even worth mentioning.
probably didn't even wanna be my friend, just wanted to bump the threadbrb going to become an hero real quick
>>745906701what does CoW do better than TWW
>>745861542Lord of the Rings only works if you ignore everything in the setting, there are like what? 1000 elves in the entirely of the middle earth? maybe 2000 if we count the elfs of the green forest.
>>745900360I hate when clankers do nothing but build stacks of 19 droidekas and a dark jedi
>>745861542>Lord of the Rings or Star Wars>In 2026
>>745906390Divide and Conquer does this. It's a complete fanfiction, but it does work far better as a Total War game
>>745906701TWW is the only hard Total War game and the only one with any depth to it, explicitly thanks to fantasy features
>do you want Warhammer High Elves>with Dragons, Lions, Water Elementals and Sea Monster and Archmages and Phoenixes and shit>or Lotr elves>with bowmen and spearmen and thats it, actually.>or the empire>with steam tanks, gryphons and wizards and land-ships>or rohan and gondor>with spearman and swordsmen and some ridersReal hard choice
>>745907515DaC is slop.>um akshually Aragorn has 10,000 Dunedain rangers tucked away in his hut all along but he wouldn't bring them to help Gondor because>also Aragorn could just rebuild Arnor and forget about Gondor this whole time but he didn't care to because
It peaked with Medieval 2. The world map still felt like a game board instead of a soulless streamlined chore. The battles felt like they had some weight to them too unlike every game starting with Empire.
>>745907681Yeah, but it plays much better with all those additional factions and locations
>>745864746Third age was abandoned years ago iirc. Divide and conquer is what everyone's playing
>>745907847I prefer the og Third Age where the entirety of Eriador is amalgamated into one faction because that's the only way they could muster even a miniscule army to do anything, unlike in DaC where the Hobbits, Bree and Dunedain are separate factions and each could pull 10 million soldiers out of the ass when Eriador is supposed to be a dying place.
>>745861542is there any fanbase more unaware of how annoying they are than WH/40cucks?
Which TW game has the best mods these days?
>>745908527yes, lotr fans >um u see da world used to be flat and dis nigga feanor be burning all dis ships u see and da other elves see it and be big mad and dey de be walkin ova dere thru da ice and shiett
>>745908581warhammer 3 and it's not even close. Attila has more total conversion but the Attila engine is total slop
>>745908581Warhammer 3 and Medieval 2, specially after the release of the patch that unfucked both Medieval 2 and Rome 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVJjwT_PfDchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfTgolYufA
>>745908252I loved my buckethelmeted spear militia spearmen. Eriador was very underrated
>>745861542>Warhammer Fantasy and 40kThese are bigger IP's than the other two though.
>>745906905Primary advantage of Call of Warhammer is in the fact that it's Medieval 2 mod and Medieval 2's (or pre-Rome 2's in general) core design philosophy is just superior. Core principles (stat system, physics, interactions, etc.) on which the game was built give birth to more authentic experience in battles but also on the campaign map. Medieval 2's more simulationist rather than arcadey approach is just more satisfying. Strategy and tactics actually matter. The game rewards you a lot for thinking about high ground, terrain and positioning, fatigue, well executed morale shocks, etc. Everything just feels better when it comes to how battles play out. For example in Warhammer cavalry, melee combat and bunch of other stuff feel like trash, which is not the case in Medieval 2. In TWWH there is almost no need to think about anything, it mostly boils down to pitching one shiny stat-box against another shiny stat-box while pressing uber boring ability buttons which are nothing more than stat modifiers, all this in frantic click-fest of battles which are over in 2 minutes which play out on shitty arcadey maps which are barely larger than football fields. Combined with Medieval's 2 more gritty aesthetics, vastly superior sound design Call of Warhammer, even with all its jank and limitations of the time, gives more veritable WHFB expirence than actual Warhammer games. And I didn't mention the campaign experience which offers more player freedom and requires you to actually use at least few brain cells because there are actual decisions to be made and stuff to worry about.Here, I found some decent comparisson which should give you the idea of of how Call of Warhammer feels compared to TWWH:https://youtu.be/LXsqsHl7yqc>>745907592No TW game is actually hard, least of them WH which is the most mechanically braindead game in the franchise both on campaign map and in battles. There is nothing to think about other than which stat-box is better against other stat-box
Ooh a comfy CA hate/warhammer/lotr kino thread. I think i'm gonna rest my small nuts here and bump it for afaik 2hrs because that's when my sleeping meds will kick in
>>745861542A Total War game set in Arda would've had far, far more units just made up out of thin air.Plus you have another massive problem - you'd basically HAVE to have the game set in the Second Age, since that's the only point in the world's history where there were multiple flourishing kingdoms of Elves, Men and Dwarves that interacted with one another.
>>745909559>Medieval 2's (or pre-Rome 2's in general) core design philosophy is just superioras it happens I play both Med2 and Warhammer3 and I can confirm you are a fake and gay nigga talking out of your ass
>>745906953ThisA single battle could easily have more elves in it than exist, if pushed to total war's engine.
did I noclip into some bizarro universe where gw's elric fanfic has become a timeless work of fiction and lotr is soulless slop endlessly engaged in annual cashgrabs that repackage old products as something new invalidating last years products while also degrading the overall quality and design?
>>745910290We're in the universe where the quality of the original work doesn't dictate how well it would translate into a Total War game.>pretending that lotr hasn't been a slop farm since 2012lol
>>745910146Battle of the Last Alliance, Battle of the Five Armies, Battle under the Trees, Battle of Dale; why the fuck do people act like Middle-Earth is some wasteland with a handful of towns when elves and dwarves still had significant populations and participated in open warfare well into the third age?
>>745910702>We're in the universe where the quality of the original work doesn't dictate how well it would translate into a Total War game.subhumans are making up excuses why it wouldn't work. Same breed of faggots that said 40k couldn't work. I can cite multiple total war mods across different games that prove it can be done. Meanwhile, mouth-breathers will act like these are some violation of canon when they haven't read the original books, let alone the appendices.
>>745910794Because that's exactly the state of the middle earth, read the Iliad to see what real numbers are
>>745911154Iliad, setting aside it's nature as a mythical account rather than a stringent documentation of the conflict, isn't the same era of warfare. You're really trying to imply that warfare from 800 - 1300 a.d. was anything like the late bronze age era? That their numbers were remotely comparable? The average battle at the turn of the first millennium was at most ten thousand men? The Crusades couldn't even break 50,000.
>>745861542>He wanted a lotr game developed when Rings of Power was being pushedBrave
>>745912547Age of Sigmar would be way cooler.
So what's the consensus so far about 40k total war
>>745912814>AoS>What if Warhammer Fantasy but worse?naw dog
>>745912814>Age of Sigmar would be way coolerI'm not sure if I believe Age of Sigmar's End Times leak but if it's true, that'd be fucking hilarious.
>>745861542>STAR WARS TOTAL WARHow many factions are there?>56>ONE FOR EACH GENDER
>>745913607Qrd?
>>745878820It would be financial suicide. Star Wars doesn't HAVE an extended canon, none of the fans WANT the universe to develop offscreen. They want darth vader, they want luke skywalker, they want AT-STs, they want Jabba the Hutt. Star Wars does not have the depth to be projected into any future.
>>745912905Looks muddy and shitty. Unsurprising, it's what I figured it would be like back when hypothesizing about it back when it was just a rumor. Total War, in its current state, cannot handle primary ranged armies fighting eachother. It relies on the "stickiness" of melee combat, and nothing has impact or weight if everything is a ranged unit poking eachother.
>>745913892They did have extended canon and games to go with it. Lucasarts didn't exactly struggle to sell games. But that was before the dark times... before Disney. Now Star Wars is gay and lame.
>>745908859what mods does WH3 even have? Just a few extra content ones right? Or is there any real total covnversion?
>>745913892ThisStar Wars has two incorrigible bubbles of fanbase. The ones that resent anything they are not a part of, and the ones that like extended universe. These two spheres can never be made to merge. It's impossible. Before, this was... barely managed, but Disney has gone full hog into pandering the first group at the expense of the latter. For good reason, the first group want to consume things NOW, want to be a part of EVERYTHING, they WILL watch a shitty show they know is shit, because they NEED to validate their own obsession.The latter is, by nature, a lot more picky. They pick and choose which things they like. I like this book, these two games, and this spinoff, but don't care for these other games. You can't get them all on board for everything, number might go down if they release a show that's shit. Number can NEVER go down, you lose your job if number goes down. Disney has every single reason to cut the latter group off at the finger, and pander to the former group. Deny the existence of extended universe, that was Not Cannon(tm) and doesn't matter, you missed nothing, now watch baby yoda twerk
>>745914260There's tons upon tons. Really, just thumb through the workshop for a while, it's faster than me explaining anything
>>745913819A semi-reliable leaker(gets stuff right about 80% of time) leaked that the next edition of Age of Sigmar was going to be an end times event in which Sigmar dies and all the realms are merged into a new single world called The Last World.
>>745914010>Now Star Wars is gay and lame.By design. The goal was always to destroy George Lucas' work, no one could accidentally make a universe this bad.
>>745915009I miss when these retards would go out in public and be retarded; Oregon Trail skit got a good laugh out of me.
ASOIAF would actually make for a better setting for Fantasy Total War than LOTR>Westeros factions are humans, with unique cultures and buffs (like in Shogun 2), so it could be balanced well>Essos has bunch of jew city states, dothraki hordes, tons of mercenary groups, etc for flavor.>Endgame could be The Long Night with Night King invading from the north with OP as fuck army or Dany landing with her dragons and you can either bend the knee and join her or fight her
>>745917302Would House Velarion be a faction?
>>745862189>doesn't offer anything WHFB didn'tHow about being a sincere and well written story instead of a cynical parody made by mentally ill americans?
>>745917302ASOIAF would work perfectly even as a reskin of 3k>>745914260There are mods for new campaign mapsTons of new factions, races and unitsMods which simply add mechanics or featuresWhole game overhauls exist too
>>745918295Total War, Warhammer and Total War:Warhammer are made by bongs (with a bit of Bulgarian help), murricans have nothing to do with anything hereWarhammer is sincereStory doesn't matter for a wargame and for a Total War game. On the contrary, it would take away from a sandbox
>>745919056>made by bongsHeh. I remember when the forums imploded because their community guy said the right to discuss the game is a privilege. Americans didn't like that.
>>745914260The map expansions are neat. One puts in an extra eastern side of the map including Ind and Nippon. Old world is another that's cool but the slow turn times make my cpu scream.
>>745918295>How about being a sincere and well written storyI don't care about that when commanding lil digital soldiers around.>made by mentally ill americans?Oh you're retarded nevermind
>>745912905mite b cool but I will wait for more continual gameplay footage than the tiktok slop they're showing off.
>>745919287>>745918831>>745914520I have already tried both radius and grimhammer, they are nice little expansions but are there any other major mods im missing? otherwise i cant see how it compares to the Medieval 2 mod scene.
>>745919476>radius>Armored Slayers (Jezzails) (Chosen of Gork)
>>745919476The Old World campaignthis one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4QCJ1JNqes
>>745861542>Star WarsKys
>>745862080Spbp
>>745919660ok now we are talking, thanks>>745919569Yeah i wasnt a fan either, all the factions felt the same since they all had basically the same units. But i still had a fun time with it.
>>745872919Not only is it always dwarfs in whf, not only is dwarfs still grammatically correct, dwarves only exists because of tolkien autism and dwarfs was the standard until lotr
>>745919660ok that trailer convinced me to download the game again, but i notice its for WH2, what will i be missing from 3?
>>745920576It's for TWW2, because it's stable. Updates and dlcs to TWW3 keep breaking mods, which is especially annoying since mods add all what those dlcs do anyway. It's a nightmare to create overhaul for it, easier just a faction expansion which is what most modders do.You won't have TWW3 Kislev, Cathay, 4 Chaos monogod races, Ogres and Chaos Dwarfs. Many factions will play differently since they got their reworks in TWW3. But mod does it's own thing anyway, including Kislev.
What are the best mods for Medieval 2 now? Last time I played was Third Age 10 years ago.
Was CotET the only warhammer mod before twwh?
>>745920996I remember there was something for Rome 1 as welland there were 2 versions of this mod for Med2
>>745920973M2EX is fully released soon, pretty much a remasterhttps://github.com/Pannoniae/rex
If my only exposure to Wathammer is Vermintide 2 and I generally like strategy games (but don't play a ton of them) will I like the Total War Warhammer games?
>>745861542Would Star Wars even work with Total War? Unlike 40K most land units aren't much more durable than our real modern military units.Works better with the Men of War or Call to Arms model desu.
