This game isn't very fun. It doesn't feel like there's really any goal and the bottomless pits everywhere are annoying.
>another noob filtered by Mina's gameMany such cases.
>"dude you have to get this game it's like link's awakening!">look inside >it's souls slop
>>745899272this
*inhale*>BLM>STEAM CHART SCREENCAP>SILKSONG>PIT SWEAT>OTHER GAME IS BETTER>UGLY>TOO HARD>BUY AN AD>/vg/>IT'S ON THE MOUSE>TRANSFORMED THORNE>ASTROTURFED>SPONSORED THREAD>CHEESED TO MEET YOU>SAAAAAAAAR>NOT VIDYA>DEAD GAME>MACACOthere, I covered all the usual topics
>>745899743I didn't say any of that. I just don't find the game very enjoyable.
>>745899809Yeah, but those are the topics that get brought up in every single Mina thread so I figured I'd get it out of the way.
>>745898792the goal is to restore the 6 generators, they tell you that pretty earlythe bottomless pits are annoying.
>>745898792I disagree. First, I have no idea what you mean by there being no goal in the game. The game has a clear beginning objective that drives the story on top of incentivizing the loads of secrets, and getting enough cash to unlock new gear.As for the bottomless pits, they can seem odd at times, but given how much more mobile you are in the game compared to something like Links Awakenings, they're a tool for controlling your progress over something like invisible walls.
n opants
>>745899272It's weird because the original poll they ran 10 years ago said people wanted a zelda clone. Dark souls/bloodborne wasn't even an option.
>>745901443I think its funny this image resulted in an official steam bundle of the two games.
>>745901680Pantsless furwives are too powerful.
>>745898792>gay tranny rat game isn't even funNo wonder it flopped.
>>745899272>soulsslopFucking how? Did you even watch any of the game play? I didn’t even like the game that much but your opinion is objectively retarded.
I had a lot of fun, I'm also ok with the game flopping because the devs are cucked and raped so I win anyway I guess
>>745898792The director is a complete sperg who thinks looking at a map means you‘re not playing the game (?) Dude did an interview recentlyhttps://youtu.be/f39IiBjjZ9A?is=drn_ua99rgSq_TFy
>>745905132>AI slop thumbnailWeird choice when interviewing devs who clearly hate it. Seems like an easy way to burn your reputation early.
>>745898792>bottomless pits everywhere are annoying.>the game challenged me and I could not live up to itSo that's your big criticism? Game hard?I guess it's bad now. Bring it in, boys. It's over.
>>745904645>Fucking how?By playing the game you stupid nigger
>>745905132He literally explains it immediately after mentioning. He doesn't want it to be a game where you're constantly pausing and checking a map. It's not that deep.
>>745905780>tendie thinks any game that is more challenging than bing bong wahoo is soulsslopChecks out.
>>745905132>who thinks looking at a map means you‘re not playing the gameThis is correct though. Do not respond to me, I'm just posting from the frontpage and not entering this thread, don't care about this game. But you are retarded if you do not agree with what the faggot game dev said.
>>745906236It is that deep because when you‘re playing a game with a giant nonlinear overworld having no map is fucking miserable. Most players aren‘t gonna constantly run in circles trying to find new areas, they‘ll just stop playing
>>745906414>you can lose your bones if you die twice before getting your spark back>the fucking hammer gives a dodge rollHow is it now a souls like retard?
>>745906640It's not big enough to require a map. Use your brain.
745906627>macaco is having to make up fanfiction nowYikes. His mental state is deteriorating by the day.
>>745906653>now*notFucking kill me
>>745906682You mean the devs that show cased the game had over 2000 i think (big number here either way) screens?
>>745898792the mechanics of the game are fun and all but the story is so retarded like it was written by a 10 year old that it takes away 90% of the enjoyment
>>745906653It is 2D. Soulslikes are 3D, have minor stamina management and different stats that different weapons scale with.
>>745905605It's hard in a way that's not fun. Too much backtracking too.
>>745906779In total, including indoor areas, yeah maybeBut you don't need an exact position map. The game's areas are about as complex as Dark Souls 3 level design, and you literally get an item that shows you if there's a collectible on your current screen or on a neighboring screen.
>>745906912In that case having a map shouldn‘t make too much of a difference and would adress the biggest complaint people have about the game, correct?
>>745906856That doesn't matter the spark system alone makes it a souls like
>>745906992The biggest complaint is "wahh too hard"the game has a map, just not an exact screen map
>>745899272>love links awakening >love Bloodborne it’s my goty
>>745907292This piece of shit has nothing in common with links awakening apart from the top down perspective
>>745907159>already have to walkback when you die >hey, let's add sparks so you have to backtrack a SECOND time potentiallywhat were they thinking
>>745907776Dark souls permanently mindfucked millenials
Yeah, it's blm shit
>>745906653Shovel knight was the same. Souls didn't invent corpse running. Stamina management is more crucial to soulslikes than corpse running.
Reading these threads really makes you realize how dogshit most people are at games
>>745898792>be me>hear mina has "bottomless pits">imagine a punch of furry waifus with their pits out>buy game>wtf it looks like a game boy game>play through entire game hoping for the pit slut level>it never comes>i never come0/10 worst game of the year NG+++++++ is bullshit
>>745898792i liked it; wish it was more zelda-like.
>>745908219You‘re not special for putting up with and defending shit game design. You‘re just retarded.
>>745908385Retarded AND better than you
>>745899272It's crazy how every single indie Zelda clone fucks up basic elements of the classic Zelda formula.
>>745908385>it's the game's fault and not mine!every time with casualbabs
>>745906640What you're really conveying is that you are so used to not thinking for yourself that you need the game to hold your hand. Which, to be fair, is the exact mentality when designing modern games. Nobody has an attention span, nobody wants to think about what they are doing and people just want to see flashy effects and cinematics. Even games that aren't literally walking simulators are dumbed down immensely for accessibility. To that point though, you have plenty of games that play for you and strip out anything that would require player consideration or planning.
>>745898792Bottomless pit everywhere...6 zones + 1...mortal shell 2? Why do indie games start to converge together and look alike each other?
>>745906992>the biggest complaintWhen you consider what the biggest population of people are on the Internet, that's a point against your favor.Yes, since the late 2000s, a massive number of people flooded the Internet and gaming warranting an even greater shift to extremely dumbed down games with any mechanics deemed not "casual friendly" being removed or stripped down significantly. That's a fine argument if you're trying to discuss what will make the most money/sell to the most people, not what will make an actual good game.
personally I think having no on-the-fly map in a game with so many collectibles is annoyingpick one or the other, minimalism has to be consistent
>no bat husbandJUST
>>745909362See you‘re just a stupid brown retard. That‘s why you feel that way.
For me it's Rich Lady
>>745910047>I'm gonna pay you 100 Bones to fuck off
>>745908914Maybe if they spent as much time practicing the game instead of crying about it, they could actually improve.
I'm not going to say the game is flawless but I had fun with it.Made all the way up to NG+7 and got a -5% Below Zero.
>>745909917whiter than you, rajeeshI like how you have no argument against the design of collectiblesyou didn't even consider the possibility that maps have value as completionist tools rather than just the mandatory initial exploration phasethis is the entire purpose of Hollow Knight's map system for exampleyacht club games lacks the nuance for that kind of design - same reason they didn't understand bloodborne's healing system and thought making it more annoying would lead to a better game
>>745910221>only a handful of images of these twoThe only real failure this game has experienced.
>>745910306(also I'm aware that the hub has a map, hence why I originally specified "on the fly" - they just made the system more annoying for no reason, which applies to make aspects of the game)
>>745910047based taste
>>745910306
>I think I must be a pretty boring person because the only trinkets I used for 90% of the gane were the stat boosters, the wallower mitts, and the hollower book
>>745910784Who am I quoting?
>>745898792so true, i dropped it. its hard but not fun, so you don't care a fuck about improving
>>745908257>be me>hear about a "bottomless hole">imagine all the holes I can fill with my cock>every hole is a goal, after all>fall down hole>wtf it looks like a big goddamn tunnel>fall infinitely waiting for all the mounds to pound>they never come>i never come0/10 worst scam of the year.
>page 9whatever>>745906992It would be impossible to have a map. The rooms don't align correctly.
>>745912296t.
>>745912580is that really what I look like now? I've been falling so fucking long
>>745898792Then just put the game on easy. God damn.
>>745913582then he will cry he won't get the cheevos
Just finished the game last night. Overall, I really enjoyed my time with it, but wtf were they thinking with that autoscroll section near the end?
>>745914107am I the only one who didn't get filtered by that part?
>>745914107You can skip it
>4 hours later>josh still hasn't showed up to spam steam chart screencaps and claim the game flopped because it sold less than silksongHuh. He must be asleep.
>>745906653the hammer roll doesnt have i frames moron
>>745915073more mouse crotch!
I was getting filtered at first because the hammer not being able to change directions on the fly after charging without rolling is really fucking annoying
>>745898792Mina was fun, but I don't feel a strong urge to replay it. I hope they make a sequel and refine it. Wonder if they'll keep the GBC look if they do.
>>745916446>ywn bury your face in that fluffy featureless crotchbig sadge
>>745916757you say that but that crotch is too smooth to be fluffy
>>745916548Almost all of the struggle is from the early game. once you level up a little and get some good trinkets. It gets easier.
>>745898792>It doesn't feel like there's really any goalThe goal is to reach the generators in any order you desire, all while discovering tons of secrets due to the game's immaculate freedom.Seems to me you need your hand held.
>>745916817where's full?
>>745898792Is it a sandbox with no win condition or something?
I love Thorne!!!!
>>745912360>The rooms don't align correctly.They don't? Seemed pretty consistent to me
>>745916392no it does. you can roll through projectile
>>745898792I found it frustrating at times but overall enjoyable. I don't think I'd replay it for a while though. I was mulling on why the frustration felt so sharp sometimes and I think it's because the game is so compact and dense. You can spend a lot of time figuring out some puzzle or enemy and then immediately run into another situation that demands full concentration. If I were to revisit the game I'd probably play in shorter bursts.
>>745917514>bat tummy
>>745909580Thorne has actual wings
>>745916757Looks like she has fur-pattern pants on.Would be funny lol, kinda like sabrina
>>745916813>>745918513pretty sure that's a cropped transformation image, that's why
Mouse Ojou Sama, please step on me!
>>745910108kekand then there's this one
>>745918651>step oncringe footfag
Thoughts on the tower segments?I liked them even though I never got one first try except the first.
>>745919242kino graphics
>>745919242they're ok but I've seen many people think they have to activate all the nodes instead of just reaching the end, which makes them get frustrated after failing multiple times
I thought it was pretty fun. I'm generally pretty burnt out on soulslikes right now and this game does enough 2D Zelda things for me to still like it
>>745910306The map has a completion percentage and a checklist which automatically makes it more useful than the ones in Hollow Knight
>>745919242Fun little minigame but a bit chaotic.
>>745919242Theyre shit. I can appreciate the idea but as far as I know you cant retry them once completed and im not optimizing a route for anything in them, so it just boils down to getting to the end to get it over with.
>>745910784I basically used the same trinkets the whole game too. Iron lung is insanely useful
>>745919242Annoying and flow breaking. Really my only actual criticism
>>745921616>flow breakingBecause god forbid a game has any gameplay that differs from the main part of the game
>>745921743If it sucks then yeah. It controls terribly and there's no stakes since you just get knocked back to the bottom until you succeed. If they weren't there nobody would be demanding some autoscrolling minigame every time they beat a generator boss
>>745898792>bottomless pits everywhere are annoying.you suck at the game. git gud, chud
>>745917514source on bottom one
It's funny how we killed this blm dogshit
>sold 500k+ copies>"killed"okay macaco
They'll call you bad but they'll never call you wrong
>>745898792lol ur bad
>>745898792quite acclaimed
gomu gomu no giganto thorne
>>745924191He's wrong
>>745898792It gets fun after you beat around 2 dungeons. At that point, you've got enough tools and stats to mess around with different moves and items and not die every 2 screens.
>>745924945BASED
>>745901806Agreed.
>>745898792Celeste RUINED indie games.even the fucking top down adventures are full of bottomless put platforming.
>>745929698>nooo why does this GB zelda clone have GB zelda elements in it
>>745925219Seconding this, midgame is arguably the best part but I got filtered by the difficulty spike in the final level. Only fundamental problems are>janky hitboxes>forgettable soundtrack>awful unga bunga boss design (fuck madd house especially)
>>745898792Fun is a buzzword you use when you can't think of a proper reason for why a game is good.
>>745929931>forgettable soundtrack
>>745929931I wish more bosses were mostly sedentary but then made use of wave and aoe attacks you had to survive before they exposed a weakpoint. There are a lot of bosses where by the last 10% their attacks and movements are so fast and chaotic that your best bet is to just spam attack like an idiot and hope your DPS wins out.
HOW DO I NOT GET RAPED BY SHIELD USING KNIGGERS RAPING MY ASSHOLE
>>745930476you need to burrow
>>745930476Some Enemies, particular shield bearing ones, can lose line of sight on you if you bury directly behind them. If you get the explosive charge upgrade for the hammer the AoE will penetrate their defense.
>>745899204fpbp
>>745907159>the lives system in mario makes it a soulslike
>>745906992It would be nice if it had a map, and he knows it. the problem is the screens don't line up in a way that makes sense because they don't exist contiguously and for some reason he doesn't want to just do a webbed map.
>>745929931Madd House is mediocre, it's true, but it's literally just a big floating hitbox.
>>745908456It's not a Zelda game, and it's not trying to be one.
>>745907776I don't understand how dying being punishing is now a souls thing.
>>745923585post 6196129 on e621 content warning: its straight, i just like thorne in everyway possible, plus thorne and mina are cute together (im in a poly relationship with them)
>>745932016Who are you quoting and why are you posting pictures of yourself?
>we will never get another Solstice or Equinox clone because the general public is retardedI hate this timeline.
>>745933191>we will never get another Spyro 1 because the general public is ADHD zoomers who need dumb minigames and alternate characters and forced backtracking or they'll cry that the game is "empty" and "boring"Vidya going mainstream was a mistake
>>745933175I'm rubber your glue whatever you say bounces off me and you eat yourself
>mfw Theory of Everything
Boop!
>>745898792The goal is to git gud at using the dig jump mechanic.
>>745923123Buzzwords, buzzwords buzzwords.
>>745932016If it works just it does in souls games then yes it does retard
>>745933097straight is okay when it's minaI'm so straight for her it loops around to being gay again
>>745904645It 100% is a souls game, anon.The only things it took from gameboy zelda, is the looks. Its digslop instead of rollslop. The demo made that perfectly clear.Its more a 2d bloodborne then a new zelda
>>745939349All I read from you that anything involving trial and error automatically makes it a souls game.
>>745938797Souls games let you die multiple times in a row without losing money?
>>745939124Honestly fair.
>>745940041>Souls game's dont let you die multiple times without losing moneyThis guy has never been to an arcade before.
>>745898792I dropped it at the sandy area, I really don't know why. It wasn't because >too hard, skill issue either, I found a couple secret bosses like the garden one and deleted it with daggers and charm speed combos. I was having a decent bit of fun but not enough to really push me forward? I just stopped playing it one day. I didn't feel as engaged as I was with Pipistrello where I 100%ed the map despite there being no achievement or reward other than seeing 100% on the file, it was that fun exploring.
>>745906856>implyingYou can absolutely have a 2D souls. There are many of them. Some of the better ones happen to be porn games, even.Not to say Mina is a souls game. It isn't.
>>745898792lilpup pampersnoofer codedMy game mogs the fuck out of this and pizzoy tower
I appreciated the map design, and how it didn’t take an unreasonable amount of time to get anywhere once all of the shortcuts were opened up.One thing that I would like to say about the tone is that I was pleasantly surprised with how dark it was willing to go, even in unexpected places. The ending especially caught me off guard.
>>745940458Oh please you're playing as a rat in a cageCringe tranny slop
>>745940458Old good new bad. Face it.
>>745899204>>745931912I haven't played the game myself so I don't know how good it supposedly is but I can definitely say with confidence that it's the game with the most insecure fanbase to come out this year.
>>745931912WOW that looks like shit for trannies with zero sense of style.
>>745940342?????
>>745940458I felt the same way. It struck a good balance between shortcuts and fast travel, which I feel like a lot of games struggle with
>>745941290A lot of the shortcuts felt pointless with all the check points until you use the mode that cuts them down
>>745940648>>745940768>>745940849>>745940969all me
>>745941150For whatever reason, this thread appears to have attracted at least one schizoposter. They disappointinly utter nonsense instead of getting creative and calling the game a neoscrimblo or something.
>>745932016>dark souls: if you die you can get your souls back by touching your blood splatter >mina: if you die you can get your bones back by touching your sparkHow are they not the same shit retard?
>>745944314so any game with a power up is a mario-like?
>>745944374What mario game lets get your coins back by touching your death spot retard?
>>745944407oh you're low iq and can't follow an analogy
>>745944448You analogy sucks ass
>>745931912In order to do any of this I'd have to get the mace (which I don't have since I picked the whip) and the right sidearm which I also don't have and you lose when you die. So yeah I guess I could keep pushing through the game until it gets fun but right now I've just beaten the second boss and everything is still kicking my ass.
>>745944658 (me)I think I got the weapons mixed up but whatever lol I just got off my ten hour shift
>>745944448Leftist discourse pretending to not understand.jpg
>>745944448Name one mario game that has this mechanic you fucking retard
>>745944779>>745944724you're all low iqanswer my simple question: is a game that has a power up a mario-like? yes or no
Mina is agile and flexible
>>745945030Yes in the same way that any game that has corpse running is a souls like
>>745945030You are low IQ. You type in all lowercase like a blithering retard and are making a pass poor analogy while pretending to not understand the difference between a power up in a Mario game and a defining feature of souls games. And since you're way too fucking stupid to understand the implicit answer here: No. Power ups do not equal "mario-like" and the conclusion you are trying to very poorly lead to is fallacious and poor.
>>745945165power ups are a defining feature of a mario game
>>745945051She may not stay that way for long unless she goes easy on the cheese.
I don't care about genres, corpse runs suck ass 99% of the time. I tolerated it in Mina because the spark system counteracts it but the game really didn't need it at all
>>745945323The sparks make it pointless. It's not a real punishment unless you suck.
>>745945362It's an issue at the start before you get your second spark and that's it. Maybe Mina's grave too if you only have three going in
>>745904645>Did you watch any of the game play?I PLAYED the game. I actually play games. It's souls slop.
>>745945513it has a whipit's castlevania slop
>>745945513it has a mouse it's rescue rangers slop
lollmaoeven
>>745919242I didn't mind them except the orrery one since that has insta "kill" tiles that are very annoying to deal with.You can't die and they are not hard, so at worst they're just annoying.
>>745944314ignore the other retard mentioning mario, but mina works a bit differently. but the concept of "lose currency on death" stays.you know what game has that? shovel knight. and mario odyssey.it's basically become standard death punishment in games were lives don't exist anymore.and dark souls didn't invent it in the first place.
>>745946036>people finished a single player game!???!?!?>AAAAAAAIEEEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
>>745944779Minecraft has it. Minecraft is soulslike.
>get past screen with spear guys>next screen has knight that can kill you in two hits>unlock room with the key I bought from the store>giant ass pit I can't cross and subweapon just out of reach wow what a "fun" game. I love barely progressing no matter where I go and losing half my health when an enemy knocks me into a pit.
>>745949572>me when I'm bad at games and can't function without immediate gratification because ipad babysorry lil guy. maybe try minecraft
>>745950067I have a job nigga. I already do the same sequence over and over and over at work. What's fun about getting killed by the knight niggers 200 times while the game actively denies giving you any tools to use against them in the opening area. I'm sure the shield subweapon would be great if it wasn't on a fucking ledge. Oh and don't even get me started on the laser beam guys to the west.
>>745898792Sounds like someone who's unskilled at playing games.
>>745909580I can assure that Mina and Thorne didn't waste any time getting to know each other after the post credits.They didn't waste any time. Not a single second.https://files.catbox.moe/c0yr73.jpg
I think my main issue with Mina is that the game doesn't give you two main weapon slots. It could've been far more mechanically expressive if you could combine two of them.
>lose absolutely everything, become a pariah on a run who will probably have to flee the land or get lynched>but hey, she got a boyfriend now
>>745899272It feels way closer to a 2D Zelda and Castlevania mash-up with some questionably tacked-on souls elements.
>>745953336Could've been worse. Thorne liked Mina from the beginning, and now they're not enemies because of unfortunate circumstances.Plus In the end, Mina now has at least one person who's on her side, when everyone else turned against her, and her other allies were killed.
>>745950067I paid for your game but you made it unfunly difficult. I will now refund your game. Enjoy starving, sadistic devnigger.
>>745953271Technically you do have two weapon slots, if you equip yourself with all the beastium trinkets.That being said, having it so that you could have one preferred weapon style, alongside all the other stuff was probably the right call.Having a lot of options can be nice and all, but there can also times where having to much can be a bad thing, and in this games case, having one main weapon wasn't a bad thing.
>>745953209In other words Mina and Thorne definitely fucked.
>>745902498Except it didn't flop.
>>745906859>Too much backtracking too.Sounds like someone who's never played a zelda game.
>Missed the two weapon upgrades you get from going back to the boat from the BackwaterAh fuck
>>745898792The goal is to reactivate the Spark Generators, and the bottomless pits are there to filter white men who can't jump
>>745916754The next shovel knight game was 16 bit, so chances are Mina the Hollower will probably be the same.Though like Shovel Knight Dig, the next Mina the Hollower game is likely to be developed by two game developing studios, and probably heavily feature Thorne as well.
So we all agree that hammer is the best weapon right?
>>745955135Guardian Casket is the best weapon, but the most difficult to fully utilize.
>>745955135hitting once but hitting hard will always be the best choice in a videogamepeople love glass cannon builds
>>745955135Against enemies with an actual attack yeah, it's not as good for stuff that just bodyslams you or moves too quickly. I didn't really like it for most bosses.
mina if she real
>>745955135All the of the weapons have their uses, so I wouldn't say one is better than the other, unless you feel there strengths outweigh the other weapons strengths.Technically the Batter Buster could be considered the best weapon in the game, for the simple fact it's the only weapon that gives Mina a range option.Or the Guardian Casket where you can literally do big damage without taking any damage if you master how to parry enemy attacks.
>>745955135I want to like Whisper and Vesper because I think dual wielding swords is cool but most enemies attack so fast or move so much that the quicker attack speed isn't really that useful in most circumstances. Whip seems by far the most reliable in any given circumstance where as the others are more niche. I really don't like the Blaster though.
haha haha______
>>745899204I like how 4chan calls everything reddit, and moves onto something else just because reddit is doing it, but the "heh skill issue" and "git gud" seems to be something that both of you faggots agree on. Literal brainlet preset reply to everything.>DONT YOU CRITICIZE INSULT MY FAVORITE GAME IN ANY WAY OR I WILL CALL YOU UNSKILLED
>>745956484reading this post like it's mina doing a mickey mouse laugh
>>745955870I never really found the enemy attack speed an issue when using Whisper and Vesper, if anythinh I found it one of the weapons I could reliable use to deal damage because of it's fast speed.The Battery Buster can be kind of broken depending on how you use it, because of it's ability to attack from a distance, which is something you'd usually need a sub weapon for.
The hitboxes are fucked on every enemy.
>>745899272This, kept seeing this shit advertised as LA like only to find out it's another dime a dozen souls-like pixeled art indie game. I even made the mistake of getting it on the eshop, so no refunds.
>>745958218skill issue
>>745958218
>>745958218Get good.
>>745955135It packs the biggest punch, but I wouldn't call it the best weapon.
>>745953209There's only one bed shown on the hideout, so it only makes sense that Thorne and Mina made good use of it.
>>745899272How is Mina the hollower soulslike braindead retardYou have no iframe slopThe world is alive and breathingMechanical skill matters far more than rpg stats
>>745953209
>>745918651AI garbage
>>745961393good morning luddite
>>745945165you don't play games and have an extremely limited understanding of game design
>>745901443I think it's funny this image is already experiencing jpg artifacts
>>745961484/r/lostredditors
>>745955135it is
>>745961590That's what it looks like on e621 too. The original image is just that low quality.
If you don't live off groid and fucking hate mice you are a nujak
>>745901443Thorne doesn't wear pants either.
>>745961725why did you screenshot an e621 post? and secondly it's a modern e-artist rendering gimmick to lower the resolution, add gausian blur, and other shit to your art because if it looks too clean it doesn't catch the eye. Here's the real version
here's my edit of the version
>>745962006>Goumang>EloraAny other cute pantsless anthros lately?
>>745962632I think anon is talking about characters in the Mina the Hollower game, not pantsless characters in general.
I love this squeaker so fuckin' much /v/ros
>>745905513Because youtubers are forced to use clickbait thumbnails, using hats insidebof a room, grayscale, mechanical sounds, "radio quality audio" is a equivalent of Bold text, SMPTE color bars between clips.
>>745961928this nigga lives off groids
>>745947348In minecraft it's items, not currency
>>745906640is this a meme? the map is not that big and they give you the tools to make exploring super easy
>>745953209CUTE!! CUTE!! CUTE!!
>>745963114what a sexy squikka
>>745963820Your emeralds?
>>745908178it was back in 2011, not anymore. since bloodborne rolls are free. you can usually roll 3 times and get an attack out on any weapons, on base stamina.
Ok ratfags, I just pirated your game. Should I change anything other than "no bone loss" to get rid of the biggest bullshit?
>>745899743>No HUMAN MEN
>>745966664Note that using any modifier that makes the game easier will lock you out of achievementsHonestly, bone loss isn't an issue unless you're really shit at the game, I think I only lost bones one time in my entire playthrough.
>>745966858It doesn't work like Shovel Knight where you're temporarily losing a big chunk of $$$ on every death and permanently losing them on consecutive deaths if you fail to take the pickup?
>>745967040You don't lose any currency unless you die multiple times without recovering your body.
>>745950343be less bad. Play for the job you want, which is skilled gamer. Or don't, stardew valley is there for you little bud.>>745953625bro I steal everything, games are free. art should always be free. Nobody cares if you refund, they made a killing already, huge hype cycle, that'll keep em going until shovel knight 64
>>745967731You literally can't do shit in mourner's mile until you kill everything so you can get a couple thousand bones to level up and get the umbrella sidearm. It's not a skill issue, it's just grinding.
>>745966664more save spots and auto jump out of tunneling
>>745966664Doesn't that kinda fuck the difficulty?Honestly it's not a hard game there's just a HUGE difficulty spike once you get out of Ossex (the town you go to after the first level) that doesn't get better until you level up your stats+find siderms and there are pits fucking everywhere that don't help.
>>745966664It's kind of hard to lose bones with the exception of a single section. The level up system even has an option to stash bones.
>>745899272I'll never forgive Yacht Club for it. I just wanted to play a spiritual sequel to Oracle of Seasons with a mouse girl who doesn't wear pants
Mina is a game with an identity crisis. It wants to do a lot of shit but does none of it well>Non linearity makes all the areas outside of your first or second one trivial >Wants to be an action platformer with deeply unsatisfying platforming mechanics >Wants to capture the feeling of Zelda without any interesting puzzles that makes it the case>The entire sub weapon system is a shit show until mid game but by then I didn't find a lot of them super useful anyway
>>745970224I think it does a lot of things well. The puzzles (platforming) are generally better than Zelda games, the platforming is generally fun, and the game clearly scales upwards in difficulty. I did it out of order the first time and it was much more difficult than the "standard" progression. Really, the game becomes easier or harder depending on what trinkets you get or use.Subweapons are weird though. I rarely feel the need to use them when I'm winning, and when I'm losing they're unavailable.
>>745958578People say this game isn't like Dark Souls and now i am seeing Dark Souls recovery, yes it's in other games but Dark Souls is well known for it, Dark Souls 2 Hitboxes, Bloodbourne healing. i am seeing souls like features here.
>>745974540What the fuck is "Bloodborne healing"? The rally system was not tied to blood phials. IT was just get hit>hit back quickly>heal most of the hit. Mina's system only even gives you healing when you attack.
>>745976291The only difference is Minas is mandatory and BB is a extra boost if you choose to use it, stop being disingenuous and win the argument legit.
Mina is a cute name for a mouse
>>745898792Sex with this rat.I will also not play her game.
>>745977638She's not a rat thougheverbeit
>>745974540>well it has one(1) element from dark souls SO IT'S A SOULSLIKEbased retard
>>745970224>Non linearity makes all the areas outside of your first or second one trivialYou can literally go anywhere you want in whatever order you want, and the trinkets you get can determinate the difficulty of future areas.>Wants to be an action platformer with deeply unsatisfying platforming mechanicsIt has platforming in the game but it's completely contained to not be overwhelming and tedious. It introduced new elements well, and they're easy to pick up, without being frustrating.>Wants to capture the feeling of Zelda without any interesting puzzles that makes it the caseIt's a Zelda inspired game, but it's clearly not designed in a way to where you need certain items to progress in the game, like a traditional zelda game.Nor are the puzzles mandatory to get further in the game. The puzzle are more like optional bonuses that you can do to get trinkets that will prove to be very useful, and they're far from being frustrating, especially if you have the right trinkets on hand, many of which you can get early game.>The entire sub weapon system is a shit show until mid game but by then I didn't find a lot of them super useful anywayThis again is something akin to player preference, and what sub weapons you get and when.Outside of two I found them all to pretty useful, and not using them in boss battles, feels like your just handicapping yourself, especially if they prove to be very effective against them.
>>745966858>caring about chievos
>>745977638She's a mouse genius.
>>745977719>>745977903Basically the same
>>745977459That's retarded. Rally being an "extra boost" is the very definition of rally. Bloodborne's healing system is every sould game's healing system, with the exception of that "Extra boost". Mina, meanwhile, has no "Rally" system because the healing gotten from doing damage isn't free.
>>745977950Except they're not.
Stylized squeaker...
>>745979423that's not stylized, that's putrid garbage
>>745979620>zoomer when he sees something that isn't photorealistic 3d
>>745979850>makes up a scenario in his headstylized doesn't mean "completely different character"
>>745979962>when Mina reads Anon's letter explaining in great detail how he's going to snuggle and smooch and pet her
>>745979962>Mina reading a secret letter sent to her by Thorne.I think it's safe to say this letter is a lot more passionate than the last one.
>>745899272*Furry westoid soulsslop
>>745980065Based
>>745898792serves you right for buying into artificial hype the week it came out.
>>745899272Literally me
>>745980201
>>745899272Souls ruined metroidvanias and is now on its way to ruin 2D action adventure games, you just gotta deal with it.
>>745980065
>>745980686>when she reaches the end where he says he's going to hold her hand and smooch her forehead
>>745899272For once I'd love to see someone design bosses the Sonic CD way or the Katana Zero way where you just have to get to the boss or slash them a two or three times
>>745980747
>>745945323>I don't care about genres, corpse runs suck ass 99% of the timeHow did you niggers EVER play boomer games where you had to do the entire fucking level over again if you died anywhere in it? Megaman would have given you generational trauma. Fucking poser ass "oldfags."
>>745980935Where are you finding these images?
>>745981503They're slop I'm cooking up.
Mina hate is so forced
>>745980686hey anon gen some mina x human smut please
people saying this game is souls slop interpret the world in mere symbols. literal NPCs responding to base impulses. there's an entire dev stream talking about how they specifically designed the combat to bring back the element of positioning that has been eliminated in modern souls slop by means of instant iframe dodges.I fucking despise sharing a world with you retards because you, the people who can only interpret mere symbols are the ones who get to decide what's successful or not with your mindless purchases because you make up 80% of gamers aka consumer cattle
>>745981762Aight
>>745970224Your average "interesting" Zelda puzzle>See cup>There is a ball in the corner of the room>Your job is to smack the ball into the cup with your swordWooooooow this is so fucking deep bro, it's blowing my mind because I'm fucking 7 years old and it's the first puzzle I've ever seen in my entire life.
>>745981579This was a metaphor for rape
>>745981503>Where are you finding these images?Anon, you can't be living life like that anymore. Pandora's box was already opened so the best you can do is train yourself to recognize it.
>>745981968You need to do some Mina x Thorne stuff for sure.
>>745982020uhhhhh.....based???
>>745981968>put my boyfriend in the game
>>745981968ok you got me, very cute tho!
I fuckin' love mouse girls
>>745982020she seems to have enjoyed it though... mina bros...
>>745982225It's mouse culture, please understand.
>>745982041Unfortunately for this model Mina is on the brink of recognizability. It gets that she's a white mouse in a red coat and that's about all it needs, but Thorne is in that awkward spot where it doesn't recognize him as a character on his own very well, while at the same time he's bit to awkward of a "Bat" to make him just by throwing in some tags to help it along.
>>745982432Doesn't quite get it.
>>745982668That turned out better than I thought it would.I think the problem is that his eyes are only shown in a sprite and one public concept image that was shown, rather than official media where it's always obscured.
>>745982668Good enough, now slop him bigger like >>745924945
>>745919347Eye cancer-inducing.
>>745983128okay macaco
i feel like as gayming gets more and more popular there are more gaymers that treat any game that isn't their to suck you off as automatically bad
>>745899204GBC slop made by an indie team of faggots and tranniesRetards like everyone in this thread are exactly why ESG investors got into gaming and pushed DEI everywhere in entertainment. You are spineless losers who will eat any shit put on your plate. Actual GBC games have more soul than Mina the troon.
>>745983456What DEI element are in the game?
>>745983456frogniggers have increasingly had the most schizo posts I've ever read
>>745983456>frogposter is dumb
>>745982020The mouse simply doesn’t want to feel like a heart on a chain for her whole life. Please understand.
>>745982819It's trained mostly off of fan art and porn boorus. It's typically pretty efficient. Once a character has about 100 examples to go off of it can get some reliable results. The problem is that Thorne lacks that and what he does have isn't the greatest quality. Fucking chest belt.
>>745983910The funny thing is there's several sfw artists that have actually drawn an accurate Thorne without his mask, so I'm guessing those images aren't taken into account.
>>745983002Meh
>>745984160Didn't think it could be done at all, its not perfect, but its something!
>>745983910What model do you use?
>>745985589NovelAI. Subscription based. Not worth the price if you know how to set up your own models locally but I'm lazy and have cash to burn. Heavily favors Japanese stuff and porn in regards to training data but the japs occasionally like a western media enough that it gets enough attention for the AI to work it out.
>>745981968i am the entirety of /v/ and i fvcking approve
Mouse and bat differences.Mina and Thorne are still a match made in heaven.
>>745981381You're proving my point, retard. Dying and going back to the last checkpoint is the punishment. Forcing me to go back to my death spot (in games with exploration) to pick up all my stuff before I'm allowed to even attempt anything else adds literally nothing to the game and only makes it worse. I'm sick of indie games just aping this mechanic.
>>745981381You don't lose "accumulated wealth" when you die, you just reset to the nearest checkpoint, which if it's a lategame level means you didn't lose much progress.
>>745987379>It makes it worse because there's actual real consequences to dying besides a 30 second runback that I'm also going to complain about anyway unto itself/v/ doesn't play games anymore
>>745987379>WHY IS DYING A PUNISHMENTzoomers are dead on arrival
>>745987567Dying and going back to the checkpoint is the consequence. The corpse run adds nothing outside of being a thing dark souls did, and in exploration based games it railroads you into going down the same path every time until you get it back which is antithetical to the design of those kinds of games
>>745987819It's not. It changes it so the punishment isn't just dying, it's doing worse or giving up. You're free to go pursue another path if you feel the one you're on is too hard. But there is a consequence.
>>745987819No, it adds tension and risk to the act of dying hence there's an actual threat to the death besides walking back 2 whole screens (wooooooooo) to where you last were. The fact that it bothers you so much is proof of why the mechanic matters. You can't handle the threat of loss or the fact that dying is "real." TLDR get filtered, loser. This isn't even like Shovel Knight where they put your money over spikepits just to fuck with you, getting your not-souls back in this game is easy.
>>745981968>This post violates United States law
>>745988079They'll never catch me.
>>745987874So why isn't the lack of progress a good enough consequence for you? What does the corpse run actually add? And why stop there? The corpse run is now too easy, let's add some other consequences on top like gradually diminishing max health and maybe a gimped attack stat until you get it back. Let's also add a timer to add to the tension. These are all bigger consequences and therefore better, right? They make the game harder so if you have an issue with it you just suck ass and need to get good
>>745898792what kind of games re very fun to you anon?
>>745988079violate deez nuts
>>745988316>So why isn't the lack of progress a good enough consequence for you?I'd be okay with that too. The corpse run system is just a way of making failure less frustrating provided you've actually learned what caused you to fail and take steps to mitigate it so you do a better job the next time. It literally makes games easier. No one is forcing you to go back to the checkpoint. You died and lost your souls. If you want that's it.>let's add some other consequences on top like gradually diminishing max health and maybe a gimped attack stat until you get it back.Because then the conditions of me retrying the stretch I failed at are different. So it wouldn't be indicative of me getting better or doing worse if the game nerfed me and then I went back the spot.
>>745919242I think they're alright. I can see how they can be annoying but they're too short and inconsequential to bother me.
Kissu~
>wokeslop bombs and kills it's woke studiosurprisedpikachu.jpg
Someone actually went through the effort of figuring out the exact species of bat Thorne is.In other words the kind of bat Mina's heavily getting involved with.https://www.tumblr.com/shroudedscribequill/824498749229367296/mina-the-hollower-figuring-out-what-species-of-bat?source=share
>>745990591>500k sales>kill studioi don't like Californian devs but that's a stretch
>>745990897>500k saleswould be great for a small studio, not a studio that spent over 5 million dollars and explicitly said 500k is half of the bare minimum
>>745990689I personally don't have the time and patience to do something like this, so I can respect the guy for actually going out of his way to do this kind of research.The conclusion is a pretty interesting one, considering it suggests instinctually Thorne would see Mina as a partner, yet also a food source of a sorts.
>>745940849Did you expect anything less from the r*ddit BLM furfag game?
>>745990591>>745991074It took Shovel almost a full year to reach a million sales, and Mina reached 500,000 a hell of a lot faster than it did.Yacht Club have already confirmed they're working on their next project independently, as they made a profit to continue working indie, so the game wasn't a flop.500,000 sales was what they needed to continue working independent and work on their new game, 1,000,000 would basically ensure they stay in the green.
>tfw no shortstack mouse wife to use you as a chair while she studies
It's funny how when the console wars ended all the jeets did after building PCs was move to steamcharts and gacha rankings instead. How about you faggots grow a real personality?
>>745990689So Mina essentially has a boyfriend who's the largest bat in the world, that also happens to be part vampire bat.Guess that explains why Thorne tried to eat her when he was berserk.
>>745964731hardly a currency and it's never the thing you actually care about when you die
>>745991074fake article
>>745990518thank you for cleaning up the pixelslop with real artcute
>>745991516Mina x anon is the real OTP
>>745991438shovel knight was their first game, of course it took people time to even notice it existedmina came several years later after shovel knight built a reputation for yatch club games, it's a massive failure for all the millions of dollars they spent on it and everyone who wanted to buy it already bought italso when shovel knight released , maintaining yatch club games didn't cost millions of dollars like it does now, by the time it sells anything more all the devs will be starved on the streets
>>745990689>Spectral Bat>3 foot wing span>Eats mice and small birdsThanks, I hate it.>Monogamous and forms small family coloniesWell that's cute I guess.
>>745954086>barely 500k sold after years of development with a physical studio in hollywood>not a floplmfao
>>745979307They're both murines anyway.
>>745992918Mina being shared between Anon and Thorne who are also gayfaghomo for each other
>>745995254wokes can't do anything but cope when their propaganda fails to make a profit hoping to damage control while people forget about itthey always do that
>>745990897YCG is in Seattle, bro
>>745995765
>>745997197bumping a dead thread for a dead game won't make it any less dead
>>745997354It apparently makes you seethe so I'll continue doing it
>>745997513that's not why you're begging to salvage a dead game
>>745995453I like it
>>745990591Reminder that both hollow knight and silksong still have 4 figures in player numbers so the "singleplayer game" cope does not work. Mina flopped
>>745996986>AI overview
>>745998014>reminder that two of the most successful indie games of all time have more players
>>745998041you trannies showed off 10/10 reviews from woke outlets and called this garbage the game of the yearhow come it's nowhere as successful as a small indie from a new studio? and hollow knight was made on a budget of AU$57,138 from kickstarter while mina had more than 5 million dollars
>begging to salvage a dead game
>>745998225Are you one of those single-game schizos whose life revolves around threads on 4chan?
>>745998256>no responseI accept your concession
>>745998376So yes, then.
>>745899272spbp
>>745953336I maintain that she's better off away from that island.
>>745953336She's only a pariah for that one shitty island. The rest of the world doesn't know anything about anything.
>>745981579Funnest moment of the game.>>745982020Also the hottest.
I literally came into your thread just to see mina flashing THAT smile but I can't see it here, what the fuck is wrong with you people, worthless faggots
I had more fun playing Mega Man X6. This game has no excuse to be this bad. It took a look at bad sequels from famous retro games and thought this is what fans want.
>>746000316The "I'm going to ride you until your orgasms hurt" smile?
>>746000571skill issue
>>745899743No >human menNo >fat mina
>>745982020>clear his shelves>he drags you to his rapecavewhat's his problem?
>>746000818He's black.
>>745983627>>745983647once the frog went mainstream you just knew it's over
>>746000603ah there it is, thanks nurse
>>745934102I liked Y better
>>746000707tranny game
>>746001108skill issue
it was a fun game. i enjoyed the experience including the dev's autistic design choices like no maps. i wanted more puzzles and less combat but no matter, thats a me thing.
>>746001332The no maps thing did annoy me at first but eventually you kinda remember the general layout just by playing it.
>>746001468same, it bothered me at first too but you get used to it. areas were designed well enough that you could recall where they were and such by region.
Mina...........easy on the cheese..............
Well deserved flop
anti-schizo bump :^)
Mina the Swallower
>>746005456This battle is going to be blatantly stacked in Mina's favor if both characters aren't made similar relative sizes, because what the fuck is Hornet going to do against something 500 times bigger than her?
>>746005849Apparently the Hollow Knight devs said that the bugs are human-sized at some point. It isn’t a Pikmin situation, so Hornet is likely taller than Mina.
>>746000070This made me laugh, and also curious as to where this came from.
>>745979962DEAR PESKY HOLLOWERSTHE KOOPALINGS AND I HAVE TAKEN OVER THE CITY OF OSSEXTHE MAYOR IS NOW A PERMANENT GUEST AT ONE OF MY SEVEN RAPE DUNGEONSI DARE YOU TO FUCK HIM IF YOU CAN
>>745998887I think many people will share the same sentiment. Ossex can burn.
>>746000571>I had more fun playing Mega Man X6.We all know that's a lie.
>>746005456>ratrannies have to roleplay fights like there was any competition to begin withboth hilarious and pathetic
>>746006902I'M GOING TO FUCK YOU AND PLEASE YOU WITH CUM
>>746009972Baron Lionel is one of *those* gays...
>>746010031yes yes yesthat outta do it
>>745988331Since you asked I'll give you my short list of games I DO like>RPGs and Gamebooks Fabled LandsLone WolfGrailquestDicemanShin Megami Tensei 4Epic Battle Fantasy 2Chrono TriggerXenogears>Point and Click AdventureHarvesterBeneath a Steel SkyShadowgateDon't Escape Submachine>RoguelitesNuclear ThroneRed RogueTiny Heist>TradingHardwarBuccaneer Tai-Pan!>StealthTenchu 1 and 3Metal Gear Solid >RTS Supreme CommanderWarzone 2100Dune 2>Platforming gamesCastlevania Rondo of BloodAzure Striker Gunvolt Megaman XUsually I like games that provide memorable experiences with secrets to find even if they're short or mechanically simple.
>>745995453I don't like it
>what if we copied a game for a 2 inch screen, kept the ridiculously small scale and made it stretch for 60+ inch tvs>and what if we made it worse than the game it copies in every single aspectthey sold this for $20 because they knew people wouldn't waste more on that low quality slop, and even then it sold like shit
>>746011759honestly didn't have a problem with this after the first level but it really does feel like a game that could be on the vita or 3ds and not PC lol.
>>746011759Most indie games sell for about $20. The one's that actually want people to play their games.Silksong was also $20, and I know for a fact people would have been fine paying more, but Team Cherry are just goated like that.
>>745990689What I'm getting from this is Mina gets prime bat boyfriend material in Thorne.
Erm, so the devs have filed for welfare yet?
>>746016202No, Mina the Hollower sold enough copies to where they can stay independent and work on their next project.
If this ever gets a sequel it should be about Thorne trying to rescue Mina or something.
>>745898792blm
>>746017491Bottomless lewd mouse
>>746016839If it ever gets a sequel I hope the devs learn how to actually make a fun combat system
>>746016839It's likely going to be game that features both Mina and Thorne being playable.It's still to early for Thorne to get a solo game, and unlike Shovel Knight, there's no addition free campaigns.
>>745898792This game sucks assMace has attack delay, it's only 4-directional (when most enemies walk and attack in any directions)Platforming is a complete garbageMina is slow as hell and even slower on stairs. The only trinket that increases her speed also makes you sprint on your next move after hitting enemies. Can't tell how many times this killed me by accidentally running into pits or other hazards.Burrowing is an absolute trash mechanics.Sidearms are useless. You can't ignore them. They barely do any damage, require joules and don't give you plasma without trinket (and you better use that slot for some other trinkets).The only somewhat usable weapon is that gun that can shoot diagonally, and even it has a flaw: sometimes you need to shoot enemies midair. Developers acknowledged that and made that A+X (jump + shoot) will change weapon mode instead of jumping and shooting. Fucking appreciated.Bone economy and losing bones souls style doesn't make sense, especially at the late game where your don't even need bones.
>>746005456wow holy shit people still watch this?
>>746016839...and getting corrupted and growing giant in the process, yes.
>>746017613Yet another reason to make a Thorne game, his combat style is flashy as fuck
Thorne and The Human Man should have a fencing duel over Mina's hand in marriage.
I think the biggest surprise with this game is that Mina is not a girlboss at all. These devs are still capable of writing good characters and they are still romantics at heart. They made Plague of Shadows after all.
>>745899272Yeah pretty much my experience.
>>746005987>bugs are human-sizedthat sounds fucking terrifying
>>746012880This is very much a handheld game, playing it on a giant screen is just wrong.I went with the switch version, was comfy playing in bed.
>>746018469Mace?
>>745931912I expected it to have a flash game artstyle for some reason. I've lost all interest
>>746020154Disgustingly based
>>746021914the whip-mace
>>746018469Literally everything you just said is a skill issue.Less whining, more gitting gud.
I'm good at games so personally I found it fun
>>746020943they made her a nerd which was cute>>746024023I think the biggest problem with the game is that, it gets absurdly easy by the endi also remember the side bosses more than the main ones. It's a strange game that just fizzles out at the end for me, everything from the Thorne fight to the end of the game feels disconnected, the town is attacking you but no one cares, the final dungeon sucks, the final boss is easy as fuck, you are swimming in plasma vials making it impossible to die unless you somehow get hit over and overthe only thing I can compare it to is Sonic Generations where the game starts off on an amazing note then just slowly fizzles out in the last 30 minutes
haha.......
>>745983567Female protagFurfag protag
>>746024686rich, somewhat sheltered nerd
>>746024952What a great night to have an ass triply bigger than whatever the uncropped pic has.
>>746027862I dunno anon, three times larger than this would be pretty fuckin hot to be desu https://file.garden/afTLQrlciDKq00rl/mina
>>746028295I'm just a big fan of hyper things in general, and hyper butts are very underrated.
squeak
>>746030836Most fanart has either the standard whip or the hammer. Haven't seen one with the daggers and definitely not the shield.
>>746031283
>>746031283Here's some Mina fanart with the Battery Buster.
Zesty bat husband......
>>745898792
>>746034668wooooo look at her go
>>746032128I need him like I need oxygen
Mina....
