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>Plop down two machine gun turrets at the end of a one-way hallway
>Keep shovelling human flesh in my mouth
>Kill Nobilis for the third time in one map
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Roger, in.
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>exploit bad AI in an early access game
>come to /v/ to brag
>get this shitpost instead
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>>745900520
easier to just go to brapfutara at that point though
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What's to stop me making a pact with myself?
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Fun fact : you are not playing on normal difficulty, you are playing on easy.
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genie hand is so busted what the fuck thank you maim mark
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OK, how do I heal myself from wounds EFFECTIVELY
>just use rags and plastic bro
yeah nice several turns of waiting to see 25% chance 100% fail every time
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>>745901262
get splints/bandages and afterwards antibiotics and medkits.
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>>745900861
Have to say it's pretty based of the devs to deal with complaints about the game being too difficult by renaming easy mode to normal.
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lol
lmao
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>Dithery has a full on ED-209
>It ambushes me around a corner
>Oh shit!
>Throw two knives at it
>It explodes
Yeah it's an ED alright.
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>>745900861
I was so confused when I came back to my save after playing on release because it had gone from normal to hard that I restarted because I thought I'd fucked it somehow and only realised when I was picking the difficulty for the new game
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>>745900851
The fact you aren't an eldritch demon.
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>went and did rogue city after running out of missions on mars
i cannot believe the jump in resistances from tech 1 armor to tech 3
fuckers wouldn't die to my shitty shotgun, thankfully my tunnel rat stun saved my ass so once i killed one it was easy peasy with their tech 3 guns
that being said there was too much fucking loot, like 10 different armor sets that i could use and weapons, so many good weapons
also fuck flamethrower assholes
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>>745902503
Become the flamethrower asshole.
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>New to game
>Melee class also has Cannibalism
>Give class to person immune to infection
>Can take a hatchet and sprint into a group of 7 enemies and just kill them all, then recover calories spent by eating them, which also seems to help with recovering from wounds
This seems like it's the kind of thing that will be extremely effective until the second it hits a break point and suddenly it's suicide but it's so effective it's hard to stop. I don't even use the cannibalism for the damage boost, the hatchet just kills everything fast enough it's not needed.
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>>745902886
perfectly described as laser point weapons ignore dodge and have a perfect 95% chance to hit
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This is one fucking week into the game, should I just take escort, get target killed so I can run away whenever I want? I don't think I can kill 120 enemies yet
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>Easily clearing maps
>Corporations are at Tech level 4
Is this the part where I start just going back and forth to make the enemy harder? I also took over a corp and it dropped 4k in power, should I just focus on building them back up?
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>>745901342
yeah but then where do I get any space for stuff if I also include some food and ammo
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So what does the value for mission reward actually mean? At first I thought I would get random items from the faction for that total value, but looking at the rewards it's not near the value it said.
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Hm... I think I'll NOT go in this room
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>>745903210
>I also took over a corp and it dropped 4k in power, should I just focus on building them back up?
Yeah. It'll make them automatically win missions without your help more
and the more stations they own, the more free shit you get
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>>745903509
Are you sure you didn't get some in items, and the rest in credits?
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>>745903305
they are cheap once you finish the mission throw them away and pick up good loot.
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>>745903305
you get 4 row backpack soon(tm). once you have medkit you can basically cut all healing stuff in most cases. also get mats for capsule ship upgrade, it gives you few spaces you can put stuff into during mission. of course one of the main challenges is prioritizing what to take with you.

>>745903509
you get credits, which, given the garbage UI, afaik can't be checked anywhere aside from doing peaceful visit to a station and bartering after you learn you have like 3k credits with the faction laying there the whole time
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The real game doesn't start until you've upgraded the ship.
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>>745903929
by that point, you're the shadowlord of the solar system
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so if I fail half the missions already, it's about time to start over on normal?
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This game seems fun but I feel like I might get filtered by the difficulty. If I could beat the Hotline Miami games on the harder difficulties will I be able to play this fine?

How much overworld management is there when you're not doing missions? Is there a good amount of non-combat / roleplay elements?
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>>745904263
>hotline miami
Not even remotely similar.
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>>745903608
>>745903872
Oh you're given the credits as monopoly money for trading and the item rewards are separate from it. I have 4k credits with this one faction, so I guess I better spend it.
What happens in case of a trade break with them? Do I lose all credits with them?
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>>745904601
no
that'd be bad business
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>>745904503
I see. Well how difficult is the game? Like I said, it looks fun but I can't tell if I'm going to be restarting a lot.
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getting stunlocked because you dared to enter sneak mode is probably most infuriating thing that can happen
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>The only way to save humanity is to keep it in a state of constant warring so that no one gets ahead and brings gababool to the world
what did they mean by this
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>>745903154
why not?
i'd be more worried about starving to death than killing 160 TL1 enemies that die to any stray bullet
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>>745903154
What exactly does concentration mean? I figured out more skulls = bad but they're both pretty opaque
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>>745904951
The number of enemies per floor
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>>745904938
>that die to any stray bullet
50-90 hp, 25% of them armed with ECHO and storm TT
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>>745904802
Because war, war never changes.
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>>745904938
and I've died to ECHO stunlocking me because I dared to enter sneak to check if there's any enemies are nearby
>>745904781
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>>745904601
yes, if your rep goes too low you will lose the credit and ability to buy stuff. and if your rep goes even lower you can't visit the station at all. though you can obv just grind it back up again
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>>745904781
Except it doesn't because getting stunned in sneak mode puts you back into walk mode?
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>>745905715
tell that to my PMC that didn't get a single AP to spent after getting hit by single ECHO shot for 4 turns until she died
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>>745905805
thats because they are stunlocking your 2 ap with knockdown and pain
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>finally got a genie's hand drop
>tech lvl 100
>+10% melee damage +25% crit chance
am i missing something here or is this a scam
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>>745903516
No worries, the room will come to you.
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>>745906079
How is it a scam?
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>>745906079
It doesn't block a weapon slot like most other hands. And it lets you shoot radiation beams when you have no weapon equipped for free.
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>>745906079
Lets you shoot his laser for free, no ammo, no durability. Tech level 100 is funny though.
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>>745906079
>>745906472
>Boosts melee damage
>On a gun arm
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>>745906328
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>>745906618
yes
>>745906612
Quasimorphs are stronger than humans, yes. And you can still wield a weapon with it.
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>>745906746
You realize that very flimsy diagetic reasoning is not only irrelevant but not even accurate with how many other quasi limbs don't boost melee damage?
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>>745906612
Forget about the boosts, all right? This shit is hilarious. 20 laser beams per turn for absolutely free. My melee character destroys shit with it, even with her horrid accuracy. I am now going to find the best user for this horribly overpowered piece of alien shit. Boudica for range maybe? What class?
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Why the fuck can't my character automatically swap places with allies? Why do I have to manually move up to them and swap myself so they will stop blocking the door?
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>>745906893
The other quasi limbs don't boost damage because the only one that doesn't is a literal fucking cannon
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>>745906079
It's not rare as long as you know a source of barons that let their hands get chopped off.
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>>745907009
Or the coil tentacle

Or the forged arm

Or the mutilated claw
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>>745906909
Krav maga works on it so start there.
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>>745907598
Is you be a sayin kike tricks empower demanz n shieet?
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>>745907813
i mean it's in the class called golem group
which merc is the jew though?
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>>745907989
Priya's shadow clone lore blurb is that she wants to leave every fight richer
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>>745908189
She's also great for golem group since she can stack ally spawners.
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>>745908189
>shadow clone lore blurb
Say what now? Where can I read lore on the clones?
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>>745908284
I assume it's from the ron pact umbral mirror?
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>>745908284
Maximilian 'Max' Rohr

You see Max Rohr. And he looks exactly the way a clone should look when he can survive where others would have died long ago.

Bob 'Mustapha' Denare

You see an incredibly alive and charismatic man. You are pleased with what you see. So why does everyone say that your true name should be War? You strive for peace. Is it your fault that peace can only be achieved through overwhelming firepower?

Jan 'Black Jack' Shrammert

You see a slightly tired man, but one still ready for battle. Lean and wiry, he can force his body into unbelievable flexibility, staying unseen without losing any of his lethality.

Auberon 'Old Hand' Lukas

You know exactly what they say about you behind your back: an average clone. The workhorse of any PMC. But now, seeing yourself from the outside, you understand the price of that cheap talk.

Jacques 'Cowboy' Kennet

You see a clone whose engineers once listened to the whining of frontline operator-ability testers and decided that a fighter whose abilities revolve around shooting should help with... shooting.

Hannah 'Domino' Reich

You look straight at Hanna[sic] Reich, and you feel slightly uneasy. They made a woman into a tool, and she decided there was nothing better left than to become the most efficient tool they had.

Edward 'Al-Arabi' Lowrence

Your own shadow. You look at yourself from the outside and, for the first time, wonder whether you ever had naturally born prototypes at all. Why shouldn't clones simply be engineered corporate products? You should remember to leave a positive review for being give the face of such a handsome man.

Victoria 'Spear' Boudicca

Before you stands Boudicca, whom the others named Victoria for the victories she brings back from the depths of the hottest hells. The other clones dislike her intensely for the caustic sarcasm she inflicts on everyone around her.
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>>745908498
Percy 'Paladin' Fawcett

You see the noble figure of Percival Fawcett, ready for close combat or long-range fire alike-- or to vanish forever into the depths of the dark bramfaturas.

Niko 'Rogue' Medich

Before you stands an efficient and brutal blood-soaked killer, fond of stepping over the bodies of slain enemies without regard for familiar patches, names, or faces.

Mirza 'Seal' Aishatu

You see Mirza Aishatu, a clone whose internal filtration systems-- liver, kidneys, glands -- have endured things no other living system in the universe could withstand.

Priya 'Abbess' Marlon

You see the Abbess: strong, cruel, and efficient, though all else being equal, she prefers to leave a fight not only victorious, but richer.

Isabella 'She-Wolf' Capet

Your own shadow. You see the She-Wolf in the flesh. A rare case where you can appreciate how every chiseled line of that noble face reflects combat efficiency.

Marika 'Nymph' Wolfnod

Before you stands Marika Wolfnod, one of the most beautiful women in this dangerous business. It is a little bitter and insulting to know that all those men will still choose talkative Jane over an efficient Nymph.

Francis 'Shrike' Reid-Daly

You know that Jane says only good things about you behind your back. You look at this face and understand that a handsome bastard like that is impossible not to love.

Laksha 'Lotus' Saminath

You look at yourself with a faint touch of imposter syndrome. Still, the numbers speak for themselves. No one has ever been as attentive on the job as you. PMCs are held together by your copies.

Kenzie 'Kunai' Yukio

There is no bloodlust in Kunai's eyes, but you can see that the art of iaijutsu, grafted into levels far deeper than consciousness, has turned his body itself into a weapon thirsting for blood.
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>>745907559
>forged arm
>extra strike
are you sure?
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>>745908568
>Kenzie 'Kunai' Yukio
1000 TIMES FOLDED NIPON GENETICS
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>>745908568
Missing the Boss, which iirc is just "Your own shadow."
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>go for the xiomara ending expecting the spidussy /v/ was talking about
>instead get mpreg
you will all pay for this
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>>745909102
but you did have sex. right?
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>>745908568
>Marika 'Nymph' Wolfnod
>Before you stands Marika Wolfnod, one of the most beautiful women in this dangerous business. It is a little bitter and insulting to know that all those men will still choose talkative Jane over an efficient Nymph.
>Francis 'Shrike' Reid-Daly
>You know that Jane says only good things about you behind your back. You look at this face and understand that a handsome bastard like that is impossible not to love.
Who's Jane?
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>>745909218
>Who's Jane?
The boss' secretary
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>>745909218
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>>745909243
>>745909259
No, I just haven't played the game and wandered in here randomly.
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>>745908568
so what ARE Nymph's pockets, exactly
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>>745909102
Gagtungr looks upon you with favor, priest. Rejoice!
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>>745909179
You do, but you get metaphysically emasculated in the process.
Xiomara lays an "egg" inside you from which Gagtungr hatches from, a process she describes as a "feminine" development of internal glory, and explicity contracts with Tezctlan's and Urparp's "masculine" seeking of external glory.
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Someone mentioned a mod that made Quasimorphosis tick down instead of up. Is there any way to do that manually by save editing the setting past where it would nornally go, for example?
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>>745909218
>>745909336
we love evil women
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>>745909563
*contrasts
NTA, btw
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>start new unfair save
>check inventory
>blade-23, gehenna chest piece
this is the run
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>>745908498
>>745908568
>blurbs are written from the perspective of the clone
Unbelievably kino, thanks nigga
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>>745909707
>dies on the first mission
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>>745909563
>>745909629
it seems like she's describing her femdom of you
and also making you into a god
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>>745910119
>you become a god but it's through a femdom relationship
Not worth it
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>>745910403
fag
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>>745909576
So basically her?
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>>745910810
jane doesn't leave you, unlike that whore
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I thought the clones were just meat puppets that the boss controled remotely (hence why you play them directly during missions) but if they have their own personalities and presumed autonomy then why does anyone (The quasimorphs specifically) fellate the boss? He just does spreadsheets and logistics.
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90 hp enemies on tech level 1 is scary
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>>745911102
The boss equips them and orders their genome upgrades and class development.
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>>745911102
nah, Francis even talks to you (the boss) during the tutorial to tell you that you need to rape the CR
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>>745910119
Sounds more like Gagtungr is going to be a parasitic worm in your ass. So you're like a goa'uld host or something.
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What if Gagtungr is a cute girl you can turn into a loli daughter god wife
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>>745900861
Yeah but hard is lame as fuck with all of the OHKOs you walk in to
>huuur skill issue
No, patience issue
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>>745911102
The boss decides whether or not they even come back. You'd better suck his dick if you expect to be reborn.
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>>745911745
In Tezctlan's ending, he wears him like a skinsuit.
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>>745910119
more like having a god gestate inside you until it can burst out killing you in the process
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>>745912379
Bet that's still someone's fetish.
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>>745911852
patience is a skill
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Ok, hear me out
>wage a total war against hexarchy, these Venus quashits and later on commies so there is no one left wanting to fuck around with rituals
Gotta remember demons are full of shit about many things, so the whole "you're fucked anyway" can be a bullshit, too. A guy having a smoke break significantly hampers demonic incursions, after all.
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I somehow got every meaningful upgrade except the baramfatura drive, the final +2 line to shuttle inventory, and misc upgrades, all with a single trip to mercury and moon each, with the rest of my time anchoring at mars and co. The big corps are at TL3 right now, and I'm having fun so far, but I only have enough resources to funnel into weapon upgrades without much in the way of armor and clone. Is this going to be a problem later on? Am I going to get softlocked if somehow my dumb ass failed to get the drive online before everyone reaches TL9 and everyone has machineguns or beam rifles against my ghetto ass Bishop?
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>>745912379
naaaah
i'll be gagtungr
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What determines how much food you find in a mission? Sometimes everyone has noodles and a soda in their pockets, while others there's fuck all to eat.
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>>745910119
Closer to Gagtungr wears you like a skin sleeve until it explodes out of you.
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>>745913024
It scales with the number of meatbags you have to kill
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>>745912763
Whilst the Quasis ARE full of shit Gagtungr being inevitable isn't one of them. Quite literally every ending results in its birth. Even the Civil Unity ending has the hivemind going "Gagtungr is the perfect platonic form and all things must inexorably converge into it" before using all of humanity to realize it. The setting is fucked by nature.
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>>745913459
>Even the-
As I said, they get the bullet, too.
They're all compromised
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>>745913313
thus you become him
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>>745913689
Not at all. You just die.
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>>745900861
>>745911852
>>745912663
>custom difficulty
>normal as base
>don't lose equipped items on death
>items repair after returning to ship
I pity the retards who suffer through all this RNG bullshit to prove a point to nobody.
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>>745914043
t. gun and ball lover
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>>745913459
Or maybe he can't come back at all without John Magnum's help.
So if you just retire to a beach house on a watery moon somewhere, just you, Jane, and a few recreational ARs, then humanity will be sort-of okay maybe.
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Explain to me how Maximilian with 0 incoming pain and -50% damage from crits is not the ultimate lategame pawn that's head and shoulders above all others
No, really, he seems so much better than anyone else that I must be missing something
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>>745914109
t. spent another hour farming up another fancy armor set he lost to pure RNG bullshit (will lose this next one the same way)
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is there any actual consequence to having all your clones under a pact? I don't see the whole bane doing much 2bh
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>>745914043
>>745914498
nigga if you want to set the difficulty to easier than easy go ahead, you don't need our approval :)
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>>745914619
Calm down champ, all I'm saying is that you don't need to prove anything by wasting your free time grinding shit in a Russian schizo game.
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>>745914559
Clones each have their own individual pacts, they can't share.
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>>745914498
you mean the armor i'm gonna get for free next mission? you sound awfully upset. i bet you punch walls over multiplayer games
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>>745914043
Repair After Mission does make sense. You've got all that stuff and a whole engineering team on the ship who can even upgrade weapons beyond the realm of physics. They could surely clean a barrel or sew a few patches onto your power armour.
The kits are for taking into the field when you need to repair your gun for the 10th time after firing 1500 bullets into the horde.
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favourite weapon to upgrade into ridiculousness?
for me, it is Archbishop
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>finally a mod to add a basic ass kitchen to the magnum
i dunno what the dev was smoking when he created the crafting system in this game
cannot cook on magnum
but you sure as fuck can on a mission if you find a basic ass stove
same shit with certain recipes being cheaper to craft on missions than on your own goddamn ship
absolutely trolling with this game design
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>>745914743
Then why are you here begging for our approval because you're bad? You can beat this game within 12 missions on unfair.
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>>745900861
i care why?
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>>745914874
>>745915416
I know I denied your gamercred by saying playing with some settings is stupid, but no reason to get upset. Take a walk before you throw a plate at your mom.
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>>745914043
kek just open up cheat engine lil bro
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>>745915512
You sound very upset that nobody cares you're playing on easy mode, why is that?
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>>745914008
nuh-uh
you're reborn as gagtungr
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>>745910119
It's an alien chestburster x1billion, the boss just acts as the vessel he eats
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>get ambushed by the Duke of Gannix
>he almost kills me with two hardcore poison shots, and threw a poison arrow at me or something
>run away to hide and heal
>I'm corned and trapped
>throw three molotovs at him and they all fucking miss
>examine him and see that he has almost 0 resistance to LACERATING
>start shooting my sawblade gun at him
>first two shots miss, bounce back, and fuck me up even more
>third one just cuts his fucking head off and kills him from full health
NICE

btw I dunno why people complain about the UI so much, I think it's great and fits the game perfectly
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>>745914792
is there a lore reason behind why clones can use pacts?
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>>745916234
it's a combination of not offering enough information and the navigation of menus being tedious
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>>745916264
why wouldn't they
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>the game doesnt tell you the enemy dodge/crit/cover chances on you in the log
why even have a combat log?

What kind of dodge numbers should I be looking to go into a mission with? going negative dodge feels like any jobber can crit you for 100 damage though cover at any given moment, but its so hard to keep dodge up with how much shit you have to carry.
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>>745916234
>To Hit: 65 Roll:85 Dodge:20
>(85-20=65)
Is Dodge subtracted from Roll? So if that guy had 1 more dodge or you rolled 1 less, it would have missed? If so, based. Also, given it cut his head off in one shot, are head shots more likely when the number is just barely enough to hit?
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>>745916650
There is a mod for an actually useful combat log on the workshop. Past that, as much as you can get, Dodge is the most effective form of EHP since resistances have a soft cap on them.

Enemies generally have pretty mediocre accuracy by virtue of always using full auto fire modes when available (and relatively poor stats in general) so even something as minor as 10% chance to dodge will go farther than you think. You just really don't want to sit in the negatives to give your opponents crit chance.
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>>745911102
The Boss built this whole thing from the ground up by himself, and still goes into the field to get shit done with everything is fucked (or more fucked than usual, really).

He's the strongest of them all AND he's not a gene-edited biological weapon, it's just him. He doesn't get cloned and doesn't come back.
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>>745912794
nah you're in a good spot
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>>745912794
If anything you need to kill some time so you have some new toys to play around with. The main issue with wasting time is that you want to get enough gene editing going to avoid being oneshot by high tech guns and to have enough gear that you can swap sets around for the resistances you need.
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Do the story missions have a fixed tech level or is it just a floor? If it's fixed why wouldn't I do a few round trip to Saturn, stab some fag and destroy the mission with my high tech shit?
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>>745918416
They a have a minimum tech level but they'll scale up to match the maximum.
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>>745916264
They're still ensouled beings.
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>>745914285
Ancom is already on track to bring him back even if you do literally nothing. Realware ushers him in even if you flat out murder their entire leadership. By the time Civil Unity is up and running, you're a brainless node like the rest of humanity in an endless hivemind. Gagtungr does not NEED you, but He likes you the most of his unwitting adherents.
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>>745900520
>turn-based
nah
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>>745916264
>>745918815
Since dying and being remade doesn't break the pact on a clone, does that mean that the originals suddenly got hit with a demonic pact out of nowhere that they didn't actually choose?
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>>745905106
as in 39 enemies (per floor), and said enemies have a combined "power" of 1178?
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Okay, so I accidentally let the quasi-meter get to a thousand, and the first time I got popped instantly by a beam, but this time I unlocked a pact? and after some time, the meter reset to 0. does it normally reset if i can survive a certain number of turns?
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>>745919078
Yes.

>*laughs in quasimorph*
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If I find a chip and leave the mission early can I redo the mission again?
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>bane buildup increases number of enemies on the map by placing new enemies at the elevator
>more enemies means more loot
>more enemies means they kill eachother faster
I thought bane was supposed to be a bad thing?

>>745919214
when it reaches 1000 all humans on the map eccollapse and run at you. a baron spawns and also hunts you down. the first time it happens triggers a story event that gives you an intro to pacts. If it reset without you doing anything its possible the baron died to robots or friendly fire, or something.
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>>745919430
Dunno. Maybe it depends on the
>When a clone dies
setting
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>>745914792
i know, what i meant is if there any in-game or in-story repercussions to using pacts like they were candy or if it doesn't change anything
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>>745918815
nope
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Did anyone save that one anon's upgrade and sidegrade guide?
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>>745919905
Nope, The only pacts that matter is Xio's because that's what starts her questline.
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>every faction is either being tricked/manipulated by the big bad or outright knowingly helping it
big fucking gay
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>>745920118
it's called late stage capitalism
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>>745920118
Well yeah, every faction that matters(hexarch) is cripplingly dependant on their omniscient AI because if they didn't use the AI then they wouldn't be able to compete.

Even the communists who aren't being memed by AI independently decide that it would be better to summon the big bad... For reasons.
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>MRS-21 unlocked for development
time to up magsize and turn auberon into a dedicated LRM firing platform with 60 on each shoulder.
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>>745920314
The communists got their power to fuse everyone into one from a quasi themselves, so they're actually one of the most deeply compromised.
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>>745919996
Shut up Molay.
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>>745919430
no, not on default hard anyway
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>got a tech 8 laser rape weapon
kino
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>Get the God of Fire flamethrower from a random tool rack
>Heavy so can't move and shoot
>But 6 effective range on a flamethrower
>Put it on my phoenix brigade guy and just unload it
>Covers the entire room in fire
Kino, absolute kino.
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>>745922271
Weapon range bonuses apply so Military cyborg head and tactile hands will both give it a +1 to range. Combined with Victoria that's a 10 range flamethower bay-bee.
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Why are medkits considered the only medical equipment to bring? They have less heal chance than bandages and spints
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>>745922271
going full fire and getting fire immunity is fucking awesome. just walking through the smoke and fire, burning everything. this is my best so far

I use TongKong though, is Phoenix Brigade better for fire?
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>>745922453
The tongkong fire spreader perk is much more important than pohoenix brigades fire perks. Though the burning immunity is pretty vital if you don't already have the foot implant for it.
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>>745922451
saves inventory space because they can heal (almost) everything without having to bring 6 different meds. Sometimes I'll bring Hydrogel Bandages and Medical Glue, they cover pretty much everything. But you still need radiation meds no matter what
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>>745922451
Because they heal every wound at once. It saves on inventory space and the heal chance is still high enough with clone veterancy
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>>745922567
Replacing heavy fire and last bullet with cauterize and flame in the dark could work, no? or lizard instead of last bullet?
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>>745922753
forgot to attach visual
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>>745914043
No, you don't understand! I NEED to smash my dick with a hammer! It's vitally important that strangers on the internets know this!
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>>745914043
local man plays singleplayer game way he enjoys, inflicts rage upon strangers
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>>745914043
that's just boring, anon. the challenge and the risk is part of what makes it fun. I start with Hard (normal) and tweak a couple things down. IMO repair after returning to ship is crucial, it avoids so much tedious micromanagement. But losing items on death is part of what makes the game so gripping, living or dying can change everything for you. Aside from that, I crank up random events, and reduce calorie expenditure to about 70%
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>>745904802
you know, quasimorpho predicted all this
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>>745922451
once you get augments and enemies start using other damage types beside physical bringing every kind of material that heals/repairs specific type of wounds becomes too much of a hassle, it's better just to bring 2 medkits, morphine and rad pills.
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What's the point of stealth mode? I mean obviously it allows you to detect enemies, but actual stealth doesn't seem to be a thing in this game. At first I thought maybe stealth would let you stay hidden behind cover or something but that's not it......Actually why isn't it a thing? Hiding behind object until the enemy looks away and then running to the next thing to hide behind to creep towards your victim could be a cool playstyle for some classes.
There's also the free interaction thing but I don't really see when that would ever be useful. The only thing I use stealth for is checking for enemies which could as well be replaced by skipping a turn in walk mode.
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When I bring Combat ARs to missions, I dress them up in communist armor haha
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>>745914043
Based donovan poster mentally raping most of the replies
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>>745923525
It does exist. You have to actually use a silencer. A class geared towards stealth like 317 or Cobra would help
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>>745923525
enemies, from afar, dont full attack you even if you end your turn in their vision. You can look at their health info page and see what mood they are in to know if they are actively attacking. Some class perks get huge bonuses for attacking unaware enemies. Silencers and generally being fast to kill stuff will also not bring the whole map down on one area. Often enemies will be in 'investigate' mode and pay more attention to dead bodies rather than looking at you, allowing you more shots on unaware enemies.
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>>745923525
free inventory use is broken, you can heal, repair, eat, use meds, swap weapons, unload weapons, move items to your quick slots, etc.
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Yes
That's the good shit
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>>745904802
>Can't convince the corpos to stop killing each other for five minutes so they can have a party truce, fucking with Quasimorphosis because humans aren't miserable for once.
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Upgraded recycler is too good. My inventory is now clogged with insane amounts of everything. I don't know how to get rid of these 100 normal clothing outfits or all the nails and so much bullshit I have to scroll past
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I remember finding the core battle system of constantly shifting between three stances to be tiresome and it felt unnatural
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>>745924394
It's really not that bad.

>Wonder if there's anyone behind this door? better shift to sneak.
>Am I doing literally anything? Standard mode
>Am I fighting and it's getting desperate? Run mode
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what's the next step after getting your pacts?
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>>745923771
>>745923905
Yeah but does it actually use the stealth mode for anything? As far as I know it doesn't actually make you harder to detect and unaware enemies perks and silencers still work in walk mode.
>>745923913
Only seems useful if there are enemies nearby, at which point why would you be in stealth? I do use it when looting piles of corpses in case someone tries to sneak up on me, but even then it could be replaced by skipping a turn in walk mode.
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when you think about it, if they used the clones for sex instead of war none of the bad things in the game would happen
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>>745924983
instead of khornite war demons we'd get slaneeshi rape demons phasing in to make people cum for their sweet shavva cummies

which i guess is technically a net improvement
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>>745919109
Pretty much, the power concentration is a "budget" that gets spent on the enemy units on that floor. Fodder enemies with low stats and a half magazine of ammo count less towards the budget than tough guys with heavy armor and big guns with lots of ammo. The stronger units seem to unlock as tech level advances, so earlier on you'll mostly see big swarms of weak guys with a handful of moderately threatening guys mixed in. You'll learn to identify dangerous guys pretty fast but as a rule of thumb guys with higher HP are higher level and more likely to have scary weapons.
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MY POWER
BREAKS WORLDS
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>playing for the first time
>getting bored
>read the lore blurbs and look at the future gear you can get from each faction
>fuck it decide to align myself with the space demon aztecs
>running at heretics as I eat hearts and human flesh while they back away in fear
I get it now
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>>745900520
>played like 10 missions or so
>decide who i want to give my secret data to
>look through my cargo
>its gone
I think i gave it away by accident in a trade menu to someone and also didnt take the rewards for it

I restarted, gave it to civil resistance, and set faction growth down the lowest setting so I can enjoy a nice long campaign.

I also just found a nice class chip, ghost of something which gives bonus range. Paired it with an operator who also gets +2 range and now they are an insane sniper
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>>745925146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvKyKSxWuw8
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>>745925246
Just wait until you unlock terror pack. It's exactly the build that you want.
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good game if you like crawling around like a retard baby and getting stunlocked to death
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>>745924751
building custom weapons and armor, making custom classes, then conquering hell
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>>745925246
Every faction but one seems to be trying to use the demons/demon research as weapons to defeat each other. Don't you think it will be more challenging to defeat them without demonic power?
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>>745925558
or you can sprint around and stunlock others to death if you want
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>>745924751
Genome editing until your favorite clone is an unstoppable super soldier.
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>Go to oasis for a peaceful visit
>Have to punch out a security guard and shoot his partner with his gun
>Find a rocket launcher and blow a guy to bits
>Eating human meat to regenerate health in a corner because I didn't bring any food or medicine
>All this to take a look at some billion year old demon's gold plated Dune fanart
I'm never going anywhere without full gear ever again
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>>745926156
lol
lmao
at least you didn't fail it and have to rebuild your relationship with realware to do it agian
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best thing to do to lower a corporations power?
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>>745922824
Why Flame in the Dark? Seems useful, but I think there are more useful options for a class built primarily around burning everything. Maybe something like this.

The Cyber Compatibility is for the dodge chance, as I'm mostly fielding borged out guys, and carrying all the fuel for the flamethrowers is fucking heavy so it tanks my dodge, so I get hit with a lot of criticals which sucks.
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>>745926440
And you could swap out Lizard later, when you've genemodding the pain tolerance of your preferred clones high enough.
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is killing tez for spider the "end" of the game? i juust fucked up extracting and had to restart the floor but i dont wanna do it again if all i get is the "end"
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>>745926440
or maybe this

Pressure Points
>increased pain inflicted on enemies
>increased AP lost from pain
fire hurts a lot so this would probably cripple most of them and limit their ability to respond to burning

Pyromaniac
>more fire and better fire
obvious

Cauterize
>immune to fire
Mixed feelings about this one. You can replace this with implants, but I only have one of the fire immunity feet and can't manufacture any yet. When I can, I'll probably switch this out for Cyber Compatibility or Therapist.

Combat Focus
>increased dodge
less critical hits while carrying around barrels of fuel

Enemy Anatomy
>increased health damage from wounds
the fire will kill them quicker

Death Over Chains
>extra AP when you get wounded
always useful.
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>>745926345
Take missions against them.
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>>745901262
+wound heal chance flat applies to everything.

In the lategame with a medical implant + rank you get like +50% flat wound heal, meaning using a rag on a wrong wound type still has a 55% chance to heal scaling up each attempt.

By that point you won't really be wasting turns/inventory space individually bandaging wounds though, you slam medkits and army medkits to stabilize multiple wounds + pain reduction + heal over time though.
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>>745925751
Its not about that its about bringing the downfall of all humanity for their hubris
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>>745906079
Free infinite ammo no reload laser SMG with nonexistent scatter, good range, infinite pierce.

Also lets you use a proper SMG against radiation immune quasi's. +25% flat crit applies to everything too, which is pretty fucking massive, usually doing more than even the military arm's +bullet on anything that fires more than 1 bullet per AP.

The genie arm is probably the best generic arm augment in the game, even if you don't use the free weapon functionality, only getting surpassed by the Ur golem arm later for gunners because 0 dropoff is OP and you can use proper tech implants in it since its bionic (and has better stats, accuracy/crit damage/damage falloff and no downside since -range countered by no dropoff).
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Genie's hand or forged arm for a pure melee terror pack?
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>>745927912
Anon, +1 bullet is 100% extra damage. You would need to shoot four bullets with 25% crit chance to equal +1 bullet. Not many guns shoot more than four bullets at a time.
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>>745928098
You are forgetting about crit damage scaling. Most guns run around with a 3-4x multiplier on crits with gun + clone scaling.
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>>745922824
>>745926440
Flame in the dark lets you see where the enemies are when you can't see shit cuz there's fire and smoke everywhere so you can burn them again while they're already burning

but, fire spreads so much you don't really need to know where they are to hit them again, just spray in their direction some more
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>>745926516
plox reply
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>>745927947
Neither, mutant claw.

Genie hand is a quasi limb and quasi limbs have zero hand implants that are useful.

Forged arm is genuinely an option with the synthetic muscle shoulder augment but as the anon above said, Crit chance scales scales better than damage through crit damage. Especially when fear and hunger already gives you massive damage already.

Mutant claw is an organic limb, not a quasimorph limb so you can equip it with both overgrown muscles to get the +1 strike from the forged arm and tremor module to get higher crit chance than the genie arm. The -60% pain damage is nothing to sneeze at either. Having an infinite durability weapon is really nice for buthchering and deep bram dives too and it's a legit good weapon on its own through having the amputate and cleave tags.
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>finally find a shop selling a cloning control system
>it's Dilthey, my perpetual victims of bullying
FUUUUCK I HATE DILTHEY SO MUCH ITS UNREAL
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>>745928194
there are borg/implant options that give similar or better effects if you dont have anything planned for the head slots
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I just used the Gorgon (acid thrower) and holy shit it just raped anything I looked at. Takes a lot of ammo, but enemies that are lined up just (literally) melt instantly
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>>745902886
You're correct. Melee still remains effective mind you but you will need to adjust a few things.
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>>745922453
A true master of fire makes a pact with Ur to unlock Ash, so save a spot for posession
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>>745902886
It has ups and downs dpeneding on how later in th game you are.

>Wow this is so cost effective
>Wow, this is fucking suicide
>Wow, I am fucking invincible
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>>745904263
>>745904765
The management is mainly outfitting your clones and upgrading your ship with what resources you've scrounged up. Difficulty varies wildly from mission to mission. Some can be glorified milk runs while others will be multihour long massacres that could fail because you stepped near a door/corner at the wrong moment.
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>>745928972
its also much lighter than flamethrower as the ammo uses less weight than gasoline
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What class does Edward want? -1 enemy sight range and -1 Quasi I guess lends itself to Unit 317 of the classes I've unlocked, but that bonus is a far-cry from a sneak pistol guy than what Niko provides with his +40% pistol accuracy/crit damage. Is there a class which builds Quasi but doesn't want to that Edward is supposed to be designed for? I only have 9 classes thus far and no ability to customize them yet.
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I found a bugged item?
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>>745930237
Just use him with whatever you want since the -1 quasi is the actually important part of his passive and that's universal.
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feed dogs your meat(amputated from your body)
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>>745931027
cute
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>>745929154
fire is for burning demons, not helping them.
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Any way to lower faction power in like the save files or a mod or something? This ancom mission sucks ass.
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>>745932710
You don't have to do the mission yet. Get stronger first
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>>745915416
Upload yourself doing this, you mealy-mouthed little shite. Ten fucking thousand bucks you don't.
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>>745915404
Link to it? Cursory google found nothing but it really was cursory.
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>Proxy jumps two tech levels up
>not a single item in their station
maybe i'm just being impatient
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Damn I only just noticed the proxy corporation thing in the navigation tree. Is there a preference for which corporation I take over? I assume there are ones which have annoying lategame enemies that I'd prefer not to fight.
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>>745932779
The mission where I have to make them higher power than SBN? Its not a matter of difficulty, its a matter of tedium.
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>>745933865
Sunlight Coven.
It's always sunlight coven.
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>>745928394
You sure? The closest I can find is the Mutilated Claw and that does block a weapon slot, though I suppose it is an infinite durability sharp weapon.
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>>745933937
although it's good to bring SBN down, I won't help you help ANCOM, bitch
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>>745934297
Yeah, that's the one. Blocking the weapon slot isn't a very big deal when the weapon is genuinely good. The sunlight backpack has an extra weapon slot to fill and even without that if your last slot is an elemental weapon like the sunlight greatsword, the chem knife or the fire mace you should never get too cucked by damage types.

Especially if you bring a stack or two of armor piercing nails.
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>>745928098
>Not many guns shoot more than four bullets at a time.
Pretty much everything outside of pistols, some shotguns, snipers, and heavy weapons is at least capable of sending more then 4 with giggle mode which is what you're using during the times when you'd actually care about maximum DPS.
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>>745926516
>>745928319
>he didnt unlock the gay buttsex secret ending
ngmi, doesn't matter what you do at this point
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>>745930327
any mods?
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>recloned my top guy (Max "feel no pain" Rohr) with the latest genetic upgrades
>forgot to put the cyborg parts back into him
>realize this halfway through a mission
ah shit
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Can someone explain to me why Magnum has a Berserk-esque curse on themselves only
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>Kenzie finally died after 2,000+ kills and taking down several Barons
>It took a baron and literally the entire level transformed into beasts to finally kill him
Fuck, he was top rank and everything.
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Shittiest class that I can override to just make a cool pistol build?
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>>745935189
The one that comes with a pistol related perk.
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>>745935189
Unit 317 is halfway there already. Just pump a garland with upgrades you're good to go.
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>>745933527
unironically easier to fight against your proxy to get new stuff than waiting for them to produce in your stations
its still really slow with the production upgrade
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>>745934821
Yeah but it's only level gen and UI, don't think it's that.
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>>745900734
It's not EA tho, it's released.
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>>745935189
Space ghost and the pistols guy can easily get 100% crit chance and with a few perk changes 80-90% dodge before clone upgrades.
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i feel sorta bad killing my proxycorp companions but then again they spawn with rare implants and full sets of frame armor half the time...
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this doesn't seem worth it even with steel without
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>>745930327
Update.
>Fixed: It was possible to obtain the ron_shock_wrist augment, which shouldn't be available to the player.
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>>745937123
Wound severity scales with damage received so the increased defense somewhat compensates for the the increased chance to get wounds.
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>>745937156
Wait, how did I not have it? I am using steam version, and at this moment I am on 1.0.3!
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>>745937218
I see that but the amount of hassle or life threatening you get from 1-damage tickle wounds, especially on augment limbs, like getting your sexbot leg get breathed on by 1 entropy damage then suddenly you have to deal with -2ap for the next 10 turns, still not worth it
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>>745937123
>>745937273
It's not good, but not for the stats alone. This is only a wound modifier. So unlike the bimbo bot legs you aren't guaranteed a wound for tickle damage.

It's bad because it's a quasi implant and there's no organic or quasi chest replacement. It won't work with the military chest or the bionic chest from Ur. Both fo those can use bionic implants like adrenaline or the shield or reinforced ribs.

Using this is basically cucking yourself out of a a whole augment slot.
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>have a bunch of cool looking energy weapons
>most brapfutas are immune to radiation
i'm stuck with the SR-78 forever ain't it
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holy shit the jupiter brapfarta is horseshit, those bee guns are no joke paired with the 3 AP enemies
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>>745937273
>people fret over +20% wound chance, meanwhile
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Seriously, how the fuck does the trade module work?
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>>745938297
It buys what's for sale, preferring the stuff from what you prioritize.
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>>745935090
Being too strong and having bad luck. They didn't mean to wake up the demons, but they had no problem with killing a lot of random, innocent people. They are far from the only ones acting like this, but they happened to do exactly the wrong thing in exactly the right place and time to wake up ancient demons and encounter them.
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>>745938339
Do they buy weapons and armors? If they only buy goods why shouldn't I go there and trade directly?
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>a floor usually takes me 30 minutes to explore
this is such a fucking timesink goddamn
sure I explore the whole floor because loot but still, wish there was an option to limit number of rooms or something
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>>745938808
Get your scanner upgrades bro.
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>>745938872
that's with scanner my man
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>>745928972
gorgon is great
the best thing you can do is increase weapon range and watch the massive cone melt everything outside vision
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anyone change the COBRA class perks? what would you recommend?
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>>745939021
holy shit I had no idea it was a cone
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>outfitting everyone with thematic pacts
>Percy gets the crystal transformation pact, the ultimate expression of his stalwart and tanking ability
>Francis gets the Blasphemy pact, fitting into his status as a scout of hades making a battleground into his hunting grounds
>Isabella gets the Gannix transformation, embodying her human monster gimmick that can kill with just her hands while bleeding everyone on the floor
>Maximillian has the Ur transformation, becoming a living warbeast than a metaphorical one
>Yukio has the Skrivnus transformation, trapping anyone who gets too close for his nails to pierce
>Laksha has the Genie transformation, their status as being unassuming yet remarkably effective fitting her to a t.
Haven't quite settled on what to do with Bob and the others yet. Was thinking Flauros for Victoria, her being a hunter. I made her a Cobra so she can use nails while in the transformation instead of those horrid fucking horns.
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>>745938590
They sell everything, and buy everything, prioritizing stations where you'd get most improvement to sale/buy price (so reputation), then prioritizing items that have the best price compared to average around system for those items. There's also TradeShuttleBarterPriorityPercent, a ratio of money it sets it apart and with that money it first buys things of the category you selected, though I don't know what value TradeShuttleBarterPriorityPercent has (nvm, found it, it's 60%).
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why the fuck does it cost more materials to craft gunsmith repair kit on the magnum than by using fabricator in missions?
that inconsistency is stupid as fuck
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Chick-chick or Moo-moo?
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>>745939468
To make the crafting skills useful.
Because they have local resources you're making use of.
Because they are specialty machines whilst yours is generalist.
Take your pick.
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>>745939468
To incentivize you to waste space bringing in spare parts to make stuff.
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>>745939607
Moo-moo. You can use it to craft MRE's.
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>>745939697
Chick-chickbros... we lost...
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>>745906973
https://youtu.be/iTP4wLHZlbY
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>>745938808
>wish there was an option to limit number of rooms or something
there is
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>>745939207
picking another class to put bodybuilding, axe rage or dismantler on
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Bodybuilding is a noob trap
That's like 5 genome level ups worth of hp for 1 of your 6 limited perk slots
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>>745940180
yeah but it's pretty good before you can even consider genome editing. it's not a noob trap, it's a gift to beginners
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ready to roll
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>>745940303
why the plastic?
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>>745940328
smg repairs
plastic + kit + kit makes the kits last longer
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what repairs the golden ice bramfatura guns?
i'm running out of fix everything crystals
please dont tell me its gold
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>>745940838
Protip: Go to Cattaram and farm Meta-matter. They repair all quasimorph equipment with no max condition penalties and can stack up to 20 per slot. They drop pretty frequently and do not spoil so it's easy to stock up on them. The only downside they have is being heavy as fuck, weighing 1.5 kg per rock.
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does the difficulty setting Faction Growth affect their power gained/lost from me doing missions?
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>>745919450
Don't the enemy act as soon you leave the elevator?
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>>745900861
I play on unfair
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>golem allies on unfair
lol
lmao
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>>745941678
How's that going for you?
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any particularly good baron bodyparts besides the genie arm? realized you can amputate implants and parts while pact transformed
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>>745941996
slowly
I already had a couple of deaths so I won't get the achievement or anything, but it's fun
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>>745940838
>i'm running out of fix everything crystals
Just clear a couple floor of Gannix they drop like candies
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>>745942018
>genie arm
which of these arms is it?
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>>745942779
You don't have it. It's >>745906328>>745906472>>745906909
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>>745942779
genie is mercury
thats venus
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>>745942018
MLP legs.
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>>745943119
You can't put +1 AP implant on them.
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>>745942018
Golems drop really amazing items.
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Is it worth buying class/mind chips? I feel like the risk of getting a duplicate probably means no
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>>745943396
how do they calculate the damage resist debuff, is it after the damage goes through you basic resists first? doesnt seem good if it's the latter
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>>745900861
Kind of lame I spent 10 hours thinking I was playing the real game without dying then I finally found out I was playing the sissy mode. I guess I should have actually read it. The easy mode would be perfect without the stupid restarts though, very fun. I don't even know why the restarting thing is an option in this game.
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>>745943456
You need as many merc chips as you can get for genome editing.
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>>745943456
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3372043917
You can configure you own percentage or rolls until you get a class/clone/item you dont have, the base game does not have this and will easily lock you from unlocking new stuff
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>>745943456
Yes, when you get into late game you need a metric fuck ton to upgrade.
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>>745943463
It's just a modifier to the total absolute value, before converting to percentages. If you had +55 blunt, it add 45, resulting in a 100, then that is multiplied to reduce 33% (so by 0.67), giving you the final value of 67, for a +22 net increase. You stop getting a buff and start getting a reduction when your own pre+45 resistance is at 90. This is with Steel Without. Without it, it's 60.
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>go to the moon trying to get upgrade parts
>an easy mission should be doable right??
>I misread and it's 3 floors and not 2
I'm going to be forced to kill my first unfair baron very soon and I don't have any good piercing weapons right now. I forgot if they're weak to fire, but I place my trust in gasoline
Wish me luck
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>>745943949
>Moon
>pIerce
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>>745943789
So at first it seems that the lower your armour, the more you get out of it.
BUT because of diminishing returns on resistance from armour, reducing 50 armour to 30 would probably see a greater %resist drop compared to 100 armour dropping to 50.

Just wear armour.
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>>745943949
Hormuz is closed fampai you're out of luck.
Nobilis sweeps.
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>>745944086
>he has never stabbed a baron to death
Anon pls
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>>745943949
>I forgot what they're weak to
You haven't made a spreadsheet of enemy strengths and weaknesses?
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>>745944232
You get an improvement if your total resistance before this improvement is less than 90. I am wearing armor, and this thing still helps a ton.
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>give hardcore unfair a chance
>get gunned down by an endless line of enemies that come out of sight and shoot at your twice in the same turn
Mmmm, I'm good thanks
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>>745944332
Duggurs resistant to pierce. You stab Gannix to death.
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>>745944468
I know they're weak to pierce, and that's all I need to know since it's one of the basic physical dmg
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armor piercing is hands down the best trait in the game
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>>745944663
You don't know shit apparently
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>>745944796
Uh ok? I died btw
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>>745944663
It would be best to check them all again.
I hope you didn't forget that different planets have different quasis.
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>>745944876
Nani, are they actually variable? They had way more than that when I played.
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>>745944876
Oh shit disregard >>745944880
When the fuck did they get pierce weakness and cut immunity?! Have I jumped timelines and swapped dimensions again?
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>>745945079
>>745945009
I've been playing since 0.8 and they always were weak to pierce and immune to lacerating, idk what you guys are smoking desu
I feel kind of stupid cause I could have just popped my head in the last floor until everyone ecolapsed and then evacuated instead of trying to make a heroic last stand
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>>745944252
Are you lost?
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>>745945209
Not a great anime but it was enjoyable.
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>>745945258
Oh shit, we got a bot here. This is the first time I found one in /v/.
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>>745945205
Back then they where weak to lacerating and resistant to pierce if I remember correctly.
Venus quasi weapons dealt cold, then changed to poison and then entropy later. Imagine being unaware of changes and getting 1 shot, that happened a lot.
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>>745945351
It's just a drunk who realized he was posting in the wrong thread half way through but then thought it would be funny to post it anyway and then double down.

I should know, I do the same when I'm drunk.
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>>745900520
nah
>get topilzin's maim mark
>insta gib the baron as soon as i see it
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It's crazy how detection is the most important thing in unfair but it's a non-issue in the lesser difficulties

Getting legendary/legendary xcom longwar 1 pod activation metagame vibes
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Do you guys use disc throwers? I feel like I never see anyone posting about them.
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>>745946435
I remember exactly one post, about how they are similar to Noita's discs in the way that they ricochet and kill you.
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>>745946435
Yeah I use a disc thrower
his name is Kenzie
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>>745946435
they fcking rule. still hoping for a chip to pgrade one. guaranteed amputations
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>>745946435
>
>>745946505
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>>745946435
I use them occasionally. Can get some nice trickshots with them.
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>>745934439
I'll keep that in mind man, for real! I didnt really get far enough into it last time to really interact with quasi's much except run away from them, seems I really missed out.
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>>745946435
They can be really good. Like anon said, you can pull off trick shots like firing around corners or bouncing a saw to hit one enemy twice.
I don't know why I don't use them more.
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I think beam/ion/shock is the best damage type in the game. But do any weapons have base piercing? That -35% is huge to fighting anything
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>>745947657
Ion is good because it's so rare for anything to have shock AND beam resistance.
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>>745939468
Locals machinery make use of surrounding atomic particulate hence required less materials. Use your imagination to plug narratives gaps
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This game is kicking my ass. I keep dying slowly to attrition. I do missions, the rewards are shit, I do more missions, the rewards are shit. The enemies never drop anything good, I eventually get zoned out in a doorway by some nigger, lose my stuff, I'm back to emergency kit gear.
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>>745900520
what's this game about?
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>>745949334
Awakening evil demons by using the suffering of casual gamers
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>>745949334
eating human flesh without properly cooking and preserving it in a can brings out the demons
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>>745948602
Are you traveling a lot? What tech level are corpos?
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Gagtungr aint real bros
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>>745914043
My friend does this a lot. He sets the game on the most brutal difficulty and then uses console commands to set player damage to 2x,player hp to 5x,unlimited resources, disables "bullshit rng mechanics" such as enemy raids.
Then he talks about how he finished the game on ultraturbofuckyou difficulty
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>>745949514
No. I'm hanging around mars. Tech level is low most enemies haven't got shit. I feel like I need to travel MORE just so there's some decent loot.
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>>745949532
That follows the trend; the whole gagtungr apocalypse schtick is just a psyop to raise cortisol levels and hit gavvakh stretch targets

I mean, the ufo demons lie about everything else. unbreakable pacts that are easily broken with a semi-uncommon item, spiderpussy sex that's actually oviposter mpreg, etc. etc.

it seems like a scam to me
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Pressure point is so much better on unfair when niggers have 120+ hp 4 AP before you can oneshot them
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>>745949727
How are you getting fucked then? At low TL enemies barely do anything.
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>>745949916
Like I said eventually I just get zoned out by something stupid like getting caught in a doorway or accidentally blowing something up. I think I need to just travel more so enemies have actual items worth picking up.
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>>745949954
NTA but if you're dying because of positioning issues like standing next to explosives or getting caught out of cover then better gear probably won't help you much. Try to use the sneak stance more to detect enemies in the next room
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If Textclan's boys weren't all wearing gay aztec feather dresses, I might have considered siding with him. But he's got no style.
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>>745900520
I think I'm done with the game.
I don't feel like restarting a new playthrough just to complete some questlines.
In the end, it was a pretty fun game with some random rng bullshit.
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>>745900861
Huh I was wondering why it felt easier than the only time I played it during early access.
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unlocking the map scan upgrade is a game changer
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>>745949532
THIS POST IS GLOWING
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>>745949954
You will get fucked a lot more by greater TL enemies. Your weapon against AI is your superior intelligence (presumed). The stronger the gear, the less important the intelligence becomes, making your enemies stronger to you in relation.
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>marika
>tunnel rats
>modded fn4
yep
its gaming time
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>>745950296
>superior intelligence
And superior reflexes. I can hit alt-f4 so fast, the shockwave blows everything off the desk.
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>>745948103
>make shit up to cope with shit design
sure
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Kys second Civil Resistance mission, NEVER SEND HIGH LEVEL DUDE THERE. IT'S A SUICIDE MISSION.
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damn unlocking mars quasis gives you access to so much better stuff, even the basic 1 golem pact spawn just mogs the deployables and voglea's squire with high resists off the bat and 180hp
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I like dressing my robots.
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Whats the best vanilla class? Do I just keep rerolling on unfair until I get scouts of hades? The rest just does not seem to take off early.
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>>745952110
reroll until you get tunnel rats
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>>745952110
The default start is fine.
The point of random start is to cause you to be creative rather than fishing for marika tunnel rat, niko ghost, etc.
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How do I progress Feathered mask quests? It told me to go to Mars and do something with realtech but im not seeing any options for anything.
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>>745952110
dunno about best class
but I'm autistic enough to reroll starting merc and class until I get Marika + Tunnel Rats
it sometimes took over an hour so I'm glad a mod came out that lets you select starting class/merc so I can save my time now
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>>745950105
Can I complete all questlines or not?
Which bullshit missions I should avoid to play with max level clone?
Civil Resistance second mission is ass from what I know
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Your guidance has converged.
You're looking good.
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>>745952348
Is your relationship with Realtech 80+?
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>>745952110
Tunnel rats, Cobra, Valkyrie and Scout
These are my fav early class, of course more class can work depending on your mercs
Just do a mission for someone that gives class chip if you rolled shit classes for early tech like martian inf or the sniper one
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>>745952189
>>745952351
Thought it would be something like that.
>>745952257
From my experience, on unfair you don't get to be creative. Whats the point if you get 2 classes that focus around later game options like based around implants, or heavy weapons that only start appearing at later tech levels.
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>>745952396
>Can I complete all questlines or not?
Nope. When you progress far enough in a questline the others become locked
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>>745952587
Yes well I would think unfair random start would be a challenge rather than a tool to mitigate playing on unfair.
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>>745952110
i wouldn't say the main starting char (if you're doing 1 random class/clone) is that important unless you have a favourite.
for class i'd say anything that has some meaningful survivability + offense. which is a good amount, it's more like some classes are pretty bad start, like MMI or terror pack. besides the obvious ones meantioned i'd say tongkong, unit 317, and ghosts are all good starting classes too.
>>745952348
subscribe to the faction stock market it tracks the quest
>>745952396
there are points of no return so you can kind of advance all of them to some point and then you have to commit. the exception is ancom and realware (and tlezcunts i think?) where you have to give them the PCPU at the start to start the questlines so those are mutually exclusive (or unavailable if you give the pcpu to someone else enitrely)
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>>745952587
I'd say on unfair tunnel rats is almost mandatory, you need progression of your ship asap since game is fine throwing at you 160 bodies with 4 AP and 120 HP from day 1. You need veterancy, clone modification, enemy point reduction, weapon upgrades as fast as possible
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>>745952802
One would think so, but its not balanced, I 100% agree with >>745952901, unfair is... well unfair. So you should not approach it as a fair test of wits either.
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>>745952110
tongkong is the best, combat focus is super low CD and makes you dodge everything for a few turns after the first bullet (this also counts for first bullet in a burst) death over chains is easy extra ap and last bullet is stupid with the heretic or any single load gun you find
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>>745952010
i wish your robot inventory came back with you so i wouldnt have to worry about forgetting it
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>>745953004
>makes you dodge everything for a few turns after the first bullet (this also counts for first bullet in a burst)
Wait what? Is this how it works? I thought it was AP based, so even burst fire attacks would only check the flee after the first burst? Damn that sounds strong then.
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>>745953027
There is a mod for that.
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>turn-based roguelike extraction looter with crafting
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what the fuck is this
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>>745953950
shoulda brought more nails
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>>745954018
i brought enough
what i'm wondering is what the fuck is this transformation
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>tfw kattaram rapture music
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man you really should be able to see what special attack a weapon gives how tf was i supposed to know the military gun arm required 7.97 ammo
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>>745952451
>>745952875
Rep is 100.
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It seems like they changed transformations leading into your bag and vest getting nuked
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Would the war-crime trait be useful for phoenix brigade? I changed the battery related perks for war-crime and enemy anatomy. Stunning the enemies when I set them on fire sounds like some good synergy and the extra damage on wounds is always welcome.
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>>745955649
almost all end-game weapons use batteries why would you swap the battery damage perk
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>>745955649
scout of hades can be replaced almost entirely by different perks in the endgame
do that
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>>745955094
Then the mission should be available in Mars.
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>>745955948
it isnt
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>encounter a drone
>die immediately
So what's the trick here?
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>>745955748
>>745955794
Just wanted a fire focused class. I'll try for a bit and see how it goes and revert it if it's shit.
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>>745955997
I keep a laser sight weapon for drones, spiders, and other hard to hit rushers. Of course they'll still fuck you up if you pull them wrong since they have 5-6 ap on unfair
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>>745955649
>>745955998
Phoenix is the battery class. Tongkong is better for fire, not just because its fire perk is the good one, but also because its other perks also synergize better with common fire weapons.
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>reached a point where every enemy has 3~5 pips with the occasional 6~7 pmc pip jumpscare boss decked with annoying implants
>getting jumped in small rooms with shitty covers is basically death because every enemy will spam burst and fuck you up good
>if i dare to fight anywhere but the invul crates or out vision them, i lose

What am i supposed to do here? Pump my PMC to 500 hp?
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>>745956624
Shaker grenades.
Any type of instant detonation grenade really
Rocket launcher
Run and full auto
Retreat into cover and wait for them to approach

A fuck you, die, pact
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>>745956789
i know i can do those things to easy things up but I'm wondering if at this point I'm supposed to pick up a few clones and pump either their hp or pain threshold higher
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>>745956624
Sex bot head to detect while walking about or the quasimorph head implant that wall hacks the entire map so you never get jumped.
The game has a ton of defensive options, HP, damage resist, dodge, cover, or outranging enemies. You should always use some combination of them.
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>oh hey look, that shelf has items on it, let me go check it out
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>>745957029
Your clone slots max out at the max amount you can unlock. Go nuts.

Seriously, it's expected for you to upgrade your clones.

I advise a 300 HP and 30 pain threshold for each during the endgame.

Not that they need it but you'll likely want it and be saved many times
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>>745951992
whats up with the stars on those itens?
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I've almost convinced myself to turn on keep loot on death. respawns already off
should i just restart on hard mode instead or go for unfair if i'm just going to decide hards to fair?
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So after playing with Djinni arm for a while I am concludingthat thi is the most busted build I've seen so far. Enemies with radiation immunity are the only thread, barons with 90% radiation protection melt. 4x beams per AP, 5AP per turn, ecah bean does ~40 damage, 126% dodge, walls die in one AP. No need for food, bullets or paying attention to condition. Resistances are around 60-120. Not like anything gets close enough to get a hit on you.

Melee builds are godly, but you are still vulnerable because you have to get close (or you gotta keep stock of nails and they suck anyway compared to 3x hits you do per AP with weapon). Not this build.
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>>745957949
You're ready. It's time to fight... Gagtungr!
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>>745957949
Erm, but 4 beams at 40 damaqe is less than one nail?
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>>745958228
Throwing nail requires two presses. Throwing nail requires nail. I can't actually kill a wall with one nail, I need two, dunno why that is.
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>>745958350
Because your damage isn't high enough I'd guess. I can oneshot walls with nails myself. Fear and hunger is the best damage in the game and each point you upgrade your calories by is another 20% damage. I've only for 4000 out of the max 9999 to boot.
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are pact summons hostile?
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can someone explain to me the ship of ghosts mission. i keep trying to do objectives and got to where i take over the engine room and then there i just get stuck in a loop of killing killing enemies revolving with q meter spawning quasis which i kill while other enemies appear which i kill again which raises q meter enough to start that and it goes on forever until eventually i run out of resources, my armor breaks and i got shock stun locked and die.
do i have to clear every floor of the guards?
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>>745958730
Friendly to whoever summons them.
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>>745944591
There's a reason it's called unfair. Dunno why people keep choosing "UNFAIR" then getting mad and saying "wtf this really is unfair!!"
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>install minigun arm
>first enemy of the mission shoots a sawblade that amputates it
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>>745958792
is that the pirate mission? You just do things in 4 floors. The engine room is just last long enough until you get a message, then you go to control room and clear that out
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>>745900861
But I play on hard with extraction anytime enabled
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>>745958949
so i can just skip enemies, go to aresenal and destroy thingie, then i go to engine room and guard it until i get message and then i got to control room and clean that up?
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>we can terminate orbit sir
>confirmed <something> and go
what does he say?
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>>745958792
There's just a fucking lot of enemies.Jane will chime in to tell you that you did it and that Dilthey is sending some fuckboys your way.

The dilthey fucks are optional, you're free to head to the control room.
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having played a while, here are some things I noticed
>ship inventory management is abysmal, you get SO much loot down the line that you kill your tabs, the game NEEDS a new inventory system with a searchbar/items not being represented in stacks on the ship/loadout system
>I literally do not give a fuck about loot anymore but the scavenger ship upgrade and mission rewards still shower me in trash I dont need, give me a tool to mass delete trash/filter stuff to INSTANTLY put it in the bin
>the only loot worth it down the line are upgrade parts for weapons/armor (which you dont need anymore when you got your 2-3 giga weapons/armors upgraded) and clone parts (biowaste/drug package/organ packs) for infinite clone upgrading
I DREAD getting more items, the devs either didnt think anyone would play a single save that much or they just werent thinking with that ship inventory system
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>>745959173
ah that explains it, she did tell me about fuckboys and then i just started wandering around the sihp unsure if i have to get anything after killing them. so when she says that just go control room.
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>>745954238
A flauros pact. It's a rare encounter with an enemy clone merc, Spear being Victoria. Clone mercs also can end up with off-faction gear.
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>>745959001
that is Custom
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>>745959321
with hard as the baseline for all other settings
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>>745959260
that's me, anon
i was wondering what an awful fucking pact it was
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>>745957552
favorite mod to help to track items you need
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anons I have a possibly shit idea, help me make it work
>Laksha, regen from stabilization
>Valkyrie
>Gear maintenance
>Shielding
>maybe cyber compatibility or the skill that give +ap on wound
>all the implants that give +wound chance
could it work? gave it a trial run half built but accuracy feels fucking atrocious.
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>>745959451
flauros is the celtic bramfatura. morrigan is a celtic god that's known to shapeshift into a crow(among other things).
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>>745959189
>he didnt get the central command mod early
grim
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Can I upgrade the hockey mask?
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>>745959376
still cheat mode sorry
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>>745960229
it makes zero sense to not be able to extract when you've found something you consider valuable unless it happens to be the game's approved list of valuable items
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>>745955997
Pump up HP. Only way.
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>>745960413
sense was never a factor in slav game design
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>>745955997
>93% chance to hit
>miss
>drone fires a barrage of lasers that instantly put me at 97% radiation poisoning for the rest of the mission
cool
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>>745960469
hence why I still consider myself to be playing it on hard, I'm just changing one retarded setting
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>>745960430
anyone have the 3d model yet?
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Upgrading some low end weapons because its just easier than upgrading mid tier or high tier ones. Trying to make a silenced pistol for my special ops dude. Is crit damage or base damage more effecient?
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>>745960520
not my problem.
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>95% chance to hit
>miss three times in a row
the probability of this happening is 1 in 8000, or 0.0125%, so either the game is lying about hit chance or I am the most unlucky man in the world
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>>745960678
has to be the same model for the sex bot, right?
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why the fuck Steam accepts retarded gifs but not mp4
gif takes 5 times more space
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>>745961324
what the hell are you talking about?
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>>745961359
steam lets you upload gifs but not mp4 files
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>literally every single container is empty
I hate it I hate it I hate it
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I wish I could disable quasimorphosis fully instead of just turning it down to 50% (which does nothing for long missions) or having to fight on Mars / Saturn and their moons.

Fighting humans is way more fun.
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>>745961501
But you can just use cyborg head...
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>>745961501
Droid head + SBN shorts.
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>>745961239
possibly?
>>745961480
you can usually see it
but it is still angering, yeah
i want my fucking datachips
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>>745961501
Crack open some of those alcohol/drug cargoes brother, embrace the Clan Traditionsâ„¢
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>>745961682
>>745961480
Some isn't a tunnel rat I see...
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My top guy got domed when my shotgun burst fire opened up a three tile wide hole in an adjacent room and exposed me to an entire firing squad of high level corpofags with lightning guns. Why the space station walls gotta be made out of fucking paper, man.
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>>745961470
What are you trying to do? If you want to share/export video just use Steam's recording feature.
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>>745962154
to better traverse the station, anon
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>>745961158
Unless the chance of something happening is zero then it inevitably will happen at some point.
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>>745961501
Grab the craftable smokes mod.
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>>745962154
>Start underground mission
>Exit is close by but map is basically a C shape
>Tunnel to the exit, ignoring every enemy in the map
Paper thin walls are a god sent when you don't want to fight shit.
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>>745962184
adding videos to workshop mods
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>>745962295
So the latter.
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>9mm exploding item chip
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>>745961158
This probability is assuming that the bullet collides with the enemy, which may not happen due to spread. If it collides, the chance to hit is 95%. There is a mod to display true probability.
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>>745961158
playing old korean mmos with ridiculously low droprates teaches you that 0.0125% is actually pretty high. either way you're looking at it from wrong way, yes, isolated it's a low chance, but you're taking a lot of these rolls over the missions, you just ignore all the times you hit.
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>>745962928
It was with a sniper at 4 tile range, the spread didn't cause a miss.
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>>745962797
congratulations, your maps no longer have corridors (except the space medical one with hole tiles)
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>>745963124
Well, if you made 8000 shots during your gameplay, one time is expected.
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>>745963195
I understand how probability works, Anon. Just because it's possible doesn't make it feel any less bad when it happens.
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Jesus fucking Christ I don't think unfair is beatable
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>>745963124
Were you stance switching? Mousing over to see odds in normal, then switching to run while still hovering keeps the normal odds. You have to mouse away then mouse back to update the odds
Otherwise you could have been fighting a clone with the increase dodge on attack perk
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How do you guys kill the mercury baron?
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any linuxchads here? How does the game run with wine? Thinking of getting it in the current GOG sale
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Why does the Quasi-Engine have to be locked behind story quests?
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>>745963884
Don't let him even take a turn seeing you, his gun is absolutely insane, strongest weapon in the game by a country mile, and most of the spells he might have are also incredibly dangerous. Weakness to blunt means basic 9mm rounds and rubber .42 rounds are your best bet most of the time. If you have a strong melee character you might be able to just smash him in the face, he has relatively low HP compared to other barons. If you toss grenades at him he'll use his AP to dodge out of the way, and you can use that to manipulate his position and keep him from shooting you. If you have to slug it out with him, take cover behind a big metal shipping container, it's the only thing durable enough to last a few rounds against his laser. Filling a hallway with landmines is also a pretty safe way to take out barons and strong enemies in general.
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What classes work well wiht the rail guns?
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>>745964419
That's the problem. I honestly have no idea where or when he is coming. He just popped up one moment and my clone is dead. It's getting really frustrating.
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>>745964539
Isn't there an item that pings quasimorphs on the map?
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>>745963884
My melee character could withstand a few turns of being bombarded by his shit, but yeah, as log as I stay away from walls it works out fine. Mercury bramfatura is hell...
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>>745958508
Also the range is like 2x that of throwables and it pierces.
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>>745964019
because it's broken
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>>745964539
Find a room/hallway with a layout that lets you sense enemies using stealth well before they can see you, or plant a turret/robot in a spot you can see from safety and watch for it to get lasered in half. Obviously other quasis will make it harder to detect the sultan so if you're trying to hunt the sultan on purpose make sure the floor is cleared out. If you're just getting dunked by sultans during missions then consider simply chugging vodka to wash away the visions of weird aliens before they get too severe.
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What genre is this game?
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Cobra Booty too stronk
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>>745965323
it's like the rogue but with spaceships and demon pussy
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>>745965323
Extraction Roguelike
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>>745965485
that's a really stupid thing to say but i will allow it
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>>745965323
roleplaying top-down turn-based roguesque tactical extraction shooter
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>>745963884
>>745964915
>>745964539
go at the end of a path way and put mines in doorways. i blew him with 3 but the more the better. however you probably need to do it on a map against commies or tezclan otherwise there will be other quasis that will trigger the mines. or in general, abuse grenades. smoke grenades breaking line of sight tend to make enemies just stand there until it clears.
i'd recommend at least like 150hp with 50+ beam resist and you might survive a single hit. also bringing gavvakh can help because it will fully heal you

>>745965323
quasiroguelike extraction shooter
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>>745964490
For the enigma series the best thing to go for is the clone and military robot arm to boost your projectiles by +2, tripling the damage output of them. For the silver series just get whatever class perks benefit their weapon type, the CQC perk from scouts of hades works on the rifle, shotgun, and smg silver-series so that's pretty solid, or use the spaceborn ghost agent training for pistol type guns. IIRC since they're all silenced they can be handy with the clone that ganks unaware people (Jan)
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>>745961158
I think scatter can fuck you up, too. That's why single-shot weapons are gay. You need burst fire.
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The boner world must be the easiest bramfatura of them all. Friendly demons, healing everywhere... There's fuck all good stuff, but still. What a relaxing moment. Wish I had more freezer space for all this alien glue.
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>>745965574
>put mines in doorways
But what about the horde of quasimorphs that are coming for me?
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What the hell is item capacity from priya? Does it just increase stack size by 4?
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>>745965835
yes
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>>745965323
Stoneshard but in space and actually good
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>>745965835
>>745965874
I noticed it also increases stack sizes while in ship inventory when arming her. Wonder if that can be abused to put more things in the freezer.
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>>745965952
someone mentioned already that if you go to wh with another clone it will unstack the items. hopefully dev will fix it and make the stacks just larger for warehouse since it's obviously stupid this way
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3 missions in for the civil resistance and I fucking hate these lying cunts. I didnt think it was possible but if I have a choice between civil and literally anyone else Im fucking picking Franche-Comte and throwing you fuckers in a prison on the sun!
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Where the fuck are all the stomach replacement parts? I want to make a fully robotic clone, but I can't find any tummy machinery.
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>>745966308
It would help if it were clear what exactly a "colnode" was from the start. Jane seems to know.
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>>745966342
On Mars. Golem has one and fire turtles have the other. Golem's stomach is amazing.
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>>745965816
Pretty much.
If you're melee, it wears away easily at your armor durability though
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>>745966308
you help actual communists and you're surprised they lied to you to further their goal? tsk
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>>745966342
my cock in your stomach
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>fight every single faction in quasi levels
>eventually they plop into demons
>fight civil resistance
>they NEVER turn into demon portals
huh, wonder why that is
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>>745963884
>>745964915
Wait! Nevermind, I confused it with Marts baron. Mercury is a genie. Those guys are pussies. Melee dodge build rapes them.
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>>745967598
I think the explanation is that they, like your clones, don't have souls so demons can't get to them.



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