One more day until Poison Song? comfy Morrowind thread, may your skills lead to consecutive hits, bros.
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I started a new game a few weeks ago because I didn't want to wait for an uncertain release date. Wish they would tell us earlier
>>745912010I've been doing a warrior run for a while now. God I love TR
>>745914029Racism isn't funny, you know.
>>745914029>yeah no hurries bro, just come back for orders after you got some experience, maybe join a local guild for cover story>return to Caius 2 years later>Archmagister of the Telvanni, Archmage of the Mages Guild
>>745914768SEEN ANY ELVES?
>you will live to see tamriel, rebuilt
>>745912010I have a bunch of mods for OpenMW now. Time to experiment with ripostes, blocking, sneaking, shooting arrows...
>>745915195>Tamriel Rebuilt>it's actually just mainland Morrowind and you need a bunch of different mods for the rest
>>745914923>>Archmagister of the Telvanni, Archmage of the Mages GuildHow do you pull that off? Mages won't even talk to me so I have to use levitation and speed potions to go anywhere.
>>745912887Where'd you get a picture of me?>>745912010I like how TR expanded Nuccius's quest by having him pop up randomly on the road to Narsis. I usually can't stand that kind of fanservice but the way it's handled is just endearing
Do I have to go to the TR website and download PS manually, or will it come via update with Protont/Discover whatever Linux calls it?
>>745915393What have you done?I know Rise of House Telvanni mod has an option to destroy the Mages Guild, but even in that mod there are alternatives.In vanilla there's no reason why any of those factions would hate you. Unless you did Trebonius' quest to massacre all the Telvanni councilors, but then the Telvanni would hate you, not the Mage Guild.Did you steal something and got your ass kicked out of the guild?
Why would they release it on a Sunday?Release this shit on a Friday so people can play it over the weekend jesus christ
>>745915227>modding the combatngmi
>>745916042I have 24 years of xp. I want to try something new.
>>745916092that's how they justify trying anal
>>745915969Du vill play on Sunday.Ve vill release our mod after your vacation ends.
>>745915419No one cares about your posts
>>745915969It's Morrowind, nobody playing this shit over the weekend.
>>745915419I wouldn't call it fan service, it's a logical conclusion considering the quest in vanilla was helping him leave vvardenfel
Why do people play like this? Morrowind had really good water graphics for the time, how does anyone fuck this one up.
Balmora....Home.
>>745916872Where are the waterworks?
>>745916912why would I want some slop mod to ruin my home?
>>745916912in your pants
>>745916912Rockstar seems to be leaking, so I would check there
>>745916381I have no idea because even if you wanted better looking water theres other choices
>>745915393if you're having issue with the conflicting reputations the telvanni sell a lovely perfume.
>>745915393Just buy some bug musk or use a charm spell to raise their disposition
>>745916219>he isnt playing right now
SEVENTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS
Why do Staff weapons have half the damage of similar tier weapons in Morrowind? They are already penalized for being two handed, so no shield.
>>745918937Because their primary use isn't for attacking
>>745918937they attack fairly fast so they're not bad for applying enchantments. the numbers on every weapon that isn't a longblade is fucked for reasons that todd only knows.
>>745919201then what is it
>>745919901For enchanting they're for spellcasters
Every time I look at my mage wielding an ugly shield I really miss Skyrim. I'd kill for a left-handed spellcasting mod.
>>745920497Skyrims spell casting is garbage, for once oblivion was best in that regard and you can just mod that into morrowind
>>745912889just slap it on to your game, nothing that bad will probably happen
>>745920497ok
>>745920769did they ever explain why Skyrim removed the ability to cast spells while holding a weapon?
>>745923027Yes because Todd wanted to copy bioshocks plasmids
>>745923027it's illegaljust like levitationcan't you do that in skyrim? I thought the gimmick was you could have a spell in one hand and a breb in the other
>>745912889Bro people are memeing about poison song coming out
>>745923027Because spells became for all intents and purposes just a type of weapon, a fairly underwhelming one at that
ITS OUThttps://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Poison_Song
>>745924140>m
>>745916381There's a mod that readds the 2002 water shader
https://youtu.be/mUxM3OGAIBM
>>745924140No it's not
>>745914768Correct, it's beyond funny; it hilarious.
>>745918358i always wondered who set the enchanting prices.
>>745926812the mages' guild
Does skyrim even have any good mods
>>745928554adderal or whatever that conversion mod is called
>>745928554Yes, but I can't post any of them on a blue board.
>>745928669Skyrim porn isn't even that good
How much better is performance on OpenMW
>>745929498Dunno, but you should play it anyway. Lots of good new UI mods only work on OpenMW. Plus is super stable, no crashes.
>>745929606>Lots of good new UI mods only work on OpenMWIts all slop for people trying their best to forget that they're playing MorrowindStay away from trannymw
>>745929606UI expansion for MWSE on vanilla is all you need for that.
>>745930171No no no I NEED my dialogue box to look like skyrims, I need my floating damage numbers, I need npcs to have their level above their head like a fucking mmo
>>745930471I mean I don't need that but I'm a straight adult so I don't care if someone else has it or not.
>>745912010People been saying it might not be done for a week or 2
my dad works for poison songhe says that it's getting delayed to 2027
Every time I think about playing Morrowind I get halfway through installing a bunch of mods and then I get bored of the process of just setting up the game and don't play.I'd like to do a playthrough with that immersion mod, Ashfall I think it is? But I just find the process of setting everything up and fixing conflicts and hunting down patches to be such a fucking drag.
MIDNIGHT RELEASE WHAT THE FUCK CHECK THE NEXUSMODS PAGE
>>745931031play with friends I played every TR big update with a friend
Poor oblivion getting completely forgotten in the mod scene. I'll always have a soft spot for it, I wish it got more attention
>>745931294I don't care what anyone says but the porn mods in oblivion are better than Skyrim, more SOUL
>>745931031there are automated installers nowadays that download and unzip the mods, sort your load order, make merged lists and so onhttps://modding-openmw.com/guides/auto/
>>745931294It's because the engine is such trash. It never got a 64bit re-release like Skyrim or OpenMW. Oblivion produces the most crashes and it's a pain to mod.
Alright my Battlemage is level 16 and 1 to 2 shots everything with his conjured battleaxe I think it's time for a new character
>>745932059start leveling up a different weapon skill and stop using conjured weaponssuddenly the game becomes playable again
>>745928554Nothing that would make it into a better game.
>>745932230Nah at that point I should just make a new character.
What do you think Bug Musk smells like
>>745931294There's no mod out there that just makes the loot system Morrowind's, at least not in a decent way.
>>745928554Defeat
>>745933581neat
>>745912010Vanilla or HD?I'll be installing on OpenMW this time around, wanna see if load times and open spaces work better than script extender install
>>745932997Soft sweet, spicy, minty with after rain earth undertones
>>745930471That sounds kino
>>745935894I am a vanilla chad, because my computer bad
>>745931294It needs a hyper big mod that adds custom locations around the world. There is barely anything to see and find outside of quest objectives, the world is really bland & repetitive.If Oblivion had that mb more modders would work on it and add features.
>>745931294don't worry, someone but Oblivion in Skyrim
I almost forgot that I created a character specifically to collect all the Poison Song books and read them on Gorne before the update came out. It's probably about time.
>>745936471>Aleksandr Troian>sounds suspiciously like Trojan Horse, a type of computer virus>freshly joined server>vibe coder>"forgets" gitnice one
>>745936725You just reminded me I need to rewatch those MGS 1 and 2 visual novels before 4 comes out next week. Thanks.
>>745912010ITS NOT TOMORROW YOU ALL LIED TO ME
>>745937818It's always Today, your childhood is ruined.
omg I went to reinstall Morrowind again and found 4 already installed copies across 2 SSDs
>>745936360I wish something could make it like Nehrim's world, Nehrim's world was so much more interesting to explore.
You told me daggerfall was better than Morrowind because it "had more stuff" but that stuff is garbage and it plays like shit. Towns and dungeons all look the same, combat is worse and horse raiding is a nothing burger. Fucking boomers with their childhood nostalgia.
>>745940293Who are these "You" you speak of? Are they in this thread right now?
Is there a way to install a lot of OpenMW mods at once? Like a mod collection
>>745940293Always has been. Why do you think only hyper nerds with autism play it? And most mods purely add more stuff? They have imagination of caterpillars, changing characters major weapon from blunt to axe is the pinnacle of roleplay experience. Easily entertained by simplest things, schizo procedural world is extremely immersive for such minds.
>>745941385yeah
>>745941584how so? i don't want to install a huge list one at a time
>>745941643either by 'jak like NEMAS or through umo like those momw modlists are
>>745939978Same. I updated mods thqt have been updated and I'll just drop TR on it omce it's out.
>>745940293Arena is actually the best TES game
Quest Marker mod is a pain to set up. It would have been better if it just did everything automatically.
>>745942267It's less annoying not to use it. Do you really need help finding the skull? It's near Pelagiad.
>>745942267>using quest markers in morrowindkys urself
>>745942316I'm not a Skybaby. I know how to walk, search and follow instruction.I'm just looking at this novelty and going. How the fuck do you want to set up that?
>Perfect reputation with the whole castle (Ebonheart)>All quests are completed, highest rank possible>Everyone's nice and respectful to me>Get nibbled by a rat>"That's disgusting. You should leave before I lose my lunch.">The whole castle spits at me and treats me like a piece of shit>Get cured and save the game>It glitched out>I can't walk anywhere without guards repeating "That's disgusting. You should leave before I lose my lunch.">No one will serve me any more>Go to another imperial town (Gnisis)>"That's disgusting. You should leave before I lose my lunch."Thank you Morrowind.
>>745942586That's just normal Morrowind.
>>745942586Realistic as heck. If you got the plague today you'd be looked at with suspicion even if you were popular in town back in the day. Anon the Cool Guy would turn into Anon the Plaguebearer overnight.
>>745942586The voice acting for that line keeps making me laugh because of a recent experience at Gnisis.>Massive battle at the temple being invaded by the Sixth House>Outside there were hounds for some reason>Defeat almost everything, the battle is still raging outside>One of the key enemies is defeated>Get auto-dialogued by old mate imperial with my praises being sung>But because I contracted disease from the fagwalkers inside, the second I quit the dialogue box, rather than go and kill the last frew hounds, all I heard at point blank range right next to me was "That's disgusting. I think you should leave before I lose my lunch."It's not overly funny to anyone else but it was just one of those random "lolwat" moments.
I plan on creating a relatively grand quest line mod. So far I have completed 2 out of 4 chapters.Now I’m thinking of whether I should release the first 2 chapters. On the one hand I’d greatly appreciate any feedback, On the other hand I know as well as anyone else how releasing a mod that is not completed yet will look to the community.Also all chapters will compound upon another, so the effect of the later chapters is not as strong if they aren’t fresh in the players heads.
Maybe I should finish the main quests and fully play through expansion finally. On one character even
>>745928554Sure, definitely. But it straight up just has too many mods, so your options are either to go all in on some modpack and hope it's not garbage (can't rely on word of mouth / reviews, because most people playing modded Skyrim have shit taste) or spend 200 hours modding it manually then 5 hours actually playing it before you lose interest.
>>745943192Release once ch 4 is finished.
>>745943192I've seen quite few mods released like that and it was fine, if mod is good then people will wait for updates, if not then nothing happens
Fuck it. Mod questions, at least I will have asked. Could you guys help please?I downloaded Custom Skill Cap, what would be an actual good cap? I'm a gremlin for going above the limits. Which is why I'd like a better Vampire set.Better Bars and Larger Minimap OpenMW aren't compatible, apparently, I have to edit openmw_hud with what the dev showed in the post. Is this right?Big Icon isn't compatible either.I want to play an Altmer for more Magicka, but I'd be damned if I get a gay ass haircut, I can't find more where I can get vanilla hair for other race, different colors or not.Would you recommend Tribunal Main Quest Reforged?For Tamriel Rebuilt question, Hlaalu or Telvanni? Redoran is apparently not finished.
>>745943192I'd release a part that is the most representative of your game, a vertical slice. You can test if people actually enjoy it and confidently keep working on rest of the content after.Otherwise, there is a big chance cool ideas and patterns you've repeated all over the project, aren't that really cool or fun to play and need to be cut or redone.
>>745942586I bet you quick saved before the healing animation was over, didn't you.
>Have a cute tomboy childhood friend cousin who isn't actually your cousin because you're adopted>Being forced to put a child in your real long-lost sister and kill yourself because of the song in your headDagoth Ur and Sixth House are truly monstrous
>>745943685I only know that telvanni is super outdated and worse quality than hlaalu, also less content, not a drought like redoran has but still less
>>745943942hot
>>745944017Poison Song will add House Indoril, but I'm not sure if I want to join them or go pick the TR Hlaalu stuff.That's why I have multiple saves after all.
>>745912887Based
>>745943660>>745943691>>745943484Yeah I hear you. One of my fears is that the mod will simply not be fun or interesting enough, since this is my first time I ever created a mod.I’ll think about it.
>>745912887My big pogchamp.Can't wait for the next quests.
>>745944140indoril won't be finished and have like 1/3 of planned contentstill size of vanilla house questline, but you won't become leader or anything
>>745944596Oh well, time to be a jew.
>>745946246Oh sweet. My nightmares.
>>745946246would
>>745944456Can't be worse than mods made by trigger warning people.
>>745936360Running around in Oblivion unironically feels like playing Starfield sometimes>it was okay in 2006
>>745947954That's cruel.
They updated the cover on Nexus, it's definitely coming today
>>745948646Shhhhhit. I'll need to update my game.Why God, why.
>>745948646I have just started new playthrough so it's of course released today
>>745912010With Tamriel Rebuilt and Project Cyrodiil everything's so far away I can't make a permanent residence anywhere without having to backtrack half across the world to store my stuff at my house. Maybe I should look into some mods that will let me mail my shit home
>>745948646Duh
>>745948646I'd try it, but I'm afraid of ruining my current save where I'm doing every quest and faction with one character
me? I'm not updating until everything for TR gets updated which will take probably months>>745948682just use multimark and teleport around
>>745948681You just need to download the latest and then replace it, right?
>>745948810I think so, both TR and TR Data
>>745947954If you think about it, Oblivion is another iteration of Daggerfall, with loads of lego-dungeons and fast traveling everywhere as soon as you get a quest marker. It's get fully realized in Skyrim/FO4 with Radiant quest system. Bethesda can't let go of the idea of a huge map filled with tool made/procedural content. With as little handmade rollercoaster quests as possible, because those only get more difficult to make as production value, scope increases. At most add some dummy NPCs to roam around, along random encounters. Yet players constantly demand interactivity, systems, long stories characters.
>>745948682Aren't the house at Anvil, and the Indoril Mansion (mod separated) the best residence ever?Just use Multtiple Mark and Recall.
>>745948810You'll also need to either create a new save file or fix the game somehow (I don't know how to do that)Otherwise, you'll end up with broken doors and NPCs.
>>745948853oblivion was supposed to have radiant quests, there are still remnants of it in filesfun fact, oblivion is best TES game when it comes to tracking all npcs in game in all locations at same time, you can get actual faction wars happening while you are away
>>745948894And here I spent the last two weeks playing TR like an autist...
>>745948968Hopefully they'll solve that one day.
>>745912010yeah
IT'S OUT NOW GO GO GO
>>745949274Is it?
>>745949414no
>>745949445You silly goofball you.
>>745949274lol I wondered when someone would notice
Play vanilla Morrowind content
>>745949274It comes out in 8 hours
I don't know who to believe, is it out or not?
no marrying cute indoril noble girl to join the house - no play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxsUYNg5NZU
>>745949513Moon Moth type mask
Anyone has screenshot examples of how different cells view distances looks?
>>745951539you can increase it up to 10 inside the game
>>745951539Don't bother increasing past vanilla maximum, the way it's meant to be played.
>>745951539I think 10 cells is perfect, but I play on mwse
>>745949274>download the prerelease filesngmi
>>745952340Is there any good shader or setting or something that allows for big mountains in the distance? Red Mountain should be able to loom at least over all of Vardenfell, but without making shit look too close and nearby
>>745948941the goblin tribes will launch raids to recover their leader's staffs, right?
>>745951539>>745952340I have upped to 15 lately, kinda makes initial load times long as fuck but I think it works well with all new stuff TR added + shaders that makes far away cells foggy and blurred
>>745951539if you can see Vivec from Seyda Neen, it's too far
>argonians and khajit can join the ordinatorsLMAO
>>745952426that is vanilla, though it's scripted in a way that they will never reach conclusionsMascar's overhaul adds bandit factions fighting over caves and forts with other bandits and it was working well from my experience. When I start I have some scouts near the skyrim border for example, month later I have bandit battles in the province interior
>>745952548In Vanilla, there's no race restrictions on factions. This is Vanilla parity. I'm sure someone will make a mod to alter that.Besides, the Temple itself doesn't discriminate technically.
>>745952548name a vanilla faction that restricts joinability based on player race
>>745952548even telvanni accepts them and there is a book that states it outright
>>745952548Boat tarde, amigo!
>>745952701camona tong
>>745953237You can't join them.
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49231what's the /v/erdict on beautiful cities
>>745953417It's really nice but you need like 50 compatibility patches. Literally every other mod you install needs a patch for it.I just don't bother with it unless I'm using some automated install that grabs all the patches.
>>745953237The player can't join that at allAnd ironically, there actually is an Argonian NPC working for them in the vanilla gamehttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Tul
>>745953490I only play with TR so that's no problem for me
>>745952548Aren't they basically a branch of the Temple? And you can join them as any race. Besides, racial restrictions don't really make sense given that everyone sees you as a dirty n'wah even if you're a Dunmer
>>745952340that looks like WoWThat is not a bad thing
>>745953417It looks pretty good but seems to be incompatible with basically every other mod. I had similar experiences using that Open Cities mod for Oblivion years ago.
>>745953676>that looks like WoWReally? I don't see it
openmw launcher needs a better mod list organizer tbqh
>>745953756https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45642
how is my mod list for pure, fresh setup?I'll wait for TR update today before installing that
>>745953417from my experience most of the time mods have patches for it
how the fuck do I get lossless scaling work with morrowind? I know it can work but it just doesn't for me, it does nothing and makes cursor invisible
Why RPGs with "use skill to improve it" are so rare?
>>745952548based
>>745954061stockholm syndrome induced by xp system in games>running 50 delivery quests should turn me into unkillable godno, it should only make you good at running
>>745953417It's beautiful. But there's compatibility problems.
>>745953983I've never used it for that game, but when I have issues with it not reading controllers or whatever, make sure the game is windowed, and use the hotkey to activate it (not the scale button). It's control alt S, I think?
>>745953646It doesn't really make much sense in world but it's a game so its fine to let the player join them for that reason. Hopefully Othrenis won't be packed with argonian ordinator NPCs.
>>745954061First because it's impossible to balance and you become a god once you're good at every skill. But that is not a bad thing in single player. Esportfag devs think everything game needs competitive pvp balance.And also because they want to add replayability through classes and restrictions.
>>745954269I tried both but it didn't work, I see both that "it doesn;t worth with opengl applications" but I also see people run it fineAlso I've seen a guy have DLSS built into openmw and I can't find a single word about it existing, it's infuriating
>using a wireguard tunnel home to grab my save and play Morrowind after landing 600km away for a tripI wish vacation was this based when I was a kid.
>>745954061It's a cool concept but I think it could use some work in Morrowind since a lot of skills end up being very difficult to level without trainers (block, enchant, security etc.)
>>745954584you can upp skillgain, though some like enchant are still ass since realistically your only skillgain with it is when you use cast on use, you never recharge them and enchanting itself is rather rare situation
>>745954584>i need to pay experts to better some of my skillsI think this is perfectly fine desu
>>745946246OH FUCK THAT!
5 hours...
>>745954680Block is the one that annoys me the most. Last time I rolled a sword n' board pure warrior and my block skill only got to around 50. Thankfully that new N'Garde mod fixes it though.
>>745956318>Thankfully that new N'Garde mod fixes it thoughLink?
>>745954538This man is living in the year 2126!And he's still wasting his trip on playing video games.
>>745956408https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58658I've only tried it briefly but from what I can tell it basically swaps out the chance-based blocking for a full parry system similar to Oblivion. Also affects NPCs so it adds some much-needed challenge to the combat too.
I really want to try Poison Song, but I also really don't want to remake a character and redo all the quest.What an unlucky moment to get back into Morrowind.
>>745956871I love it how the mods turned NPC enemies into actual threats now that they have some basic AI that's not 'just rush the PC!'
>>745956871How does it handle spells?
After beating the main quest one of the Sleepers is still aggroe'd to me. I used calm to talk to him and he thanked me for releasing him from Dagoth Ur and I got the extra reputation but after that he keeps getting aggroe'd. It's only fixable via console now? I tried getting disposition to 100 while hes calmed but it didnt work
>>745957161doesn't do anything to spells
>>745957089just make a character for a different archetype
>>745957369Making a character that isn't melee is painful though.
>>745957398sneaky archer time
>>745957398ngmi
>>745916381Couldn't be me.
how can a song be poison
>>745956871Now that I'm looking at it, this is reminding m of Tainted Grail.>>745957252So spells can still cook people up. Good to know.
>>745957510Sneak Archer is an unfun cancer, and I hate people for making it popular. Reee.
>Tamriel Rebuilt is now [redacted]
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58653speaking of magic this one is nice, heard he now works on making npcs also cast like that
>>745957613>Now that I'm looking at it, this is reminding m of Tainted Grail.
>>745957510>>745957647The true high IQ play is sneaky mage. I don't remember if it's base game or mod, but spells give sneak attack crits in Skyrim.
>>745953237>>745953530The Camona Tong being hypocrits who decry about the purity of Dunmer culture yet still use foreign labor when they need it is very much a theme both in TR and base game.>>745954061>>745954584I'm sorry but New Vegas has the more interesting level up system compared to Morrowind/Elder Scrolls. Skills leveling up as you use them sounds fun on paper but it just ends up being grindy or making you dump gold into training.
>>745957720I am not a smart man.
>>745953676guy who has only played wow, looking at his second red badlands: "getting a lot of wow vibes from this"
>>745957706Oblivion casting. The best casting.
>>745954061It's a bad system. It only works for skills that are used frequently through normal play. That's why some skills will level extremely quickly while others are effectively trainer only skills with how slow they are. The armor skills don't make any sense and require you to do retarded shit like park yourself in front of a mudcrab for 15 hours, as an example.It doesn't ultimately matter for Morrowind. The game is easy enough even if you don't have a clue what you're doing. Training is also the only thing outside of enchanting to blow your mountains of money on, so the whole use-to-improve system is basically supplanted by pay-to-improve if you aren't intentionally limiting yourself.
>>745954061It's incredibly unbalanced so you have to accept the player will do whatever they want and break your game. This is impossible for most developers to cope with
>>745957172You need to lower his fight value, not just raise disposition. Intimidate him.
>>745952340>>745953745>>745953676I can see it
>>745957089have you been to the areas PS changes? if not you probably will be fine
>>745957841Nah it does look very similar. It's the combination of the colors, the layout with plateaus and cliffs breaking up areas, and the low-spec graphics. I don't think it's a bad thing either.
What's your favorite big city and why is it Anvil?>"Actually I like Narsis it's the biggest did you know it's the biggest city in any RPG ever please listen to me it's the biggest city in an RPG"No you don't>"Actually I think Old Ebon-"LMAO>"Vive-"Kill yourselfI won't even bother to add Kaarthwasten because no one picks Kaarthwasten, it's a city that's existence is somehow OK with itself
>>745958280>What's your favorite big city and why is it Anvil?Necrom.
>>745958330>Anon combing Necrom for a crumb of quest
>>745958223Nope? So far I've been playing on the OG game, and did ONE sidequest. The one with the horse in Old Ebonheart.Visiting that town and the plains outside made me go, yup, this mod will be peak. I have visited a bit of Mage's Guild for Trainers too. Took a peek at Narsis too.
>>745958280>your athletics has increased to 70The sprawl is too much, especially walking back and forth from goldstone. Narsis is much more navigable.They should add a porter who can carry you to and from the top of goldstone on his back (this was a real thing people did AND it would fit the MK art of the colovian guy with his mansteed)
>>745958467PS specifically removes that one sidequest, not even kidding.
>>745958280It's so WHITE!
>>745958424There's one quest in Narsis that sends you there i think
>>745957089For me, on the contrary one of the best things about Morrowind is that all you need to do at the start is get your free money from Caius and raid a guild supply chest before going where ever you want.
>>745940293>He believed a sarcastic postYou autistic nigger
>>745958581Eh? Really? Why? It was fun. And a bit sad.
>>745951539Just go with something like 5 cells. Tamriel Rebuilt was made with higher view distances in mind, you'll miss quest landmarks etc with vanilla view distance. Above that looks bad imo, some people swear by super high draw distances + fog shaders, but those shaders always look ass, drain all color and can be quite glitchy (especially Rafael's shit shader, it only looks good on screenshots)
>>745958651It's being refitted and relocated to Kragenmoor if I remember right. They're also adding the whole tournament the knight came for so that'll be a new thing
I am a Colovian rider on the Gold Coast lineThe arid grasslands are my brother, my skin is cracked and dryI was staying on the main road, for the love of the nineTill I took a shorter route to save some timeThe bandits only fired once, they shot me in the chestThey made have wounded me but they'll never get the bestOf better men, cause ill ride again
>>745958651A reddit post buckbroke the TR devs into being very insecure about Old Ebonheart
>>745940293People talk a lot about Daggerfall, and how it does certain things better than Morrowind, but boy is the non Unity version bugged as shit, and boy, do I don't have the time to explore something the size of England.Oh and back in the day, people were complaining about retcons in Morrowind too.Time is a flat circle.
>>745958581I don't get why they're removing shit like this
>>745958759At least, the knight won't be sad anymore! That's something. I felt bad lying to him.>>745958796Are there good reasons for it?
>>745958848OE has too much soul so they have to strip it out to better fit tranny standards
>>745956871Are the attack animations he's using in the demo videos part of the mod?
>>745958848it's not removed, they're moving it>why?Because they want to spread out some stuff in old ebonheart to other placesThe tournament for example, (i think) will be in tournament grounds one some formerly empty land outside the city, rather than inside the castle or in some cheat interior cell>>745958895I can't remember if the knight is being moved too, if he will be in the tournament instead, or something else.I like the quest too so I'm glad it's not getting deleted
>>745959018Hopefully, he won't get destroyed too much by us.
>>745958796old ebonheart has been the most controversial part of the mod since before it even released, there have always been people wanting to redo/remove some or all of it
>>745959018tournament got downsized heavily so I'm pretty sure he isn't in it anymore and the horse quest is just getting shifted wholesale
Since you're explicitly an outlander in Morrowind I hope one day we can actually pick which province we're from and get a nice little backstory associated with it.
>>745959209Isn't there already a mod for it?
>>745959209(You) will always be a nwah
>>745959550And then the meteor crash... there will never be any N'Wah.Sad.
>>745959613not canon
>>745959550Yeah but if I wanna be from Cyrodil or Skyrim I'd like NPCs in some part to go 'oh hey man haven't seen you in a while' and get a shitty little shack as a home.
>>745959087and it all stems from the TR team being retards and making OE run like shit for a decadeNo one would have said anything if they made it properly to begin with
>>745959087>old ebonheart has been the most controversial part of the mod since before it even releasedwhy?
>>745957089My only recommendation is to play vanilla Morrowind, do all Vvardenfell and Solstheim content, make a super-hard save. THEN install TR and play it. Ofcourse you will be OP god-tier char, but you wont have to redo V and S contents allover again and again on new chars.From my limited experience, even with lvl 1 char you can just hop into TR and enjoy the new content.
>>745959754The modern TR devs have a massive hate boner for anything in TR they didn't make. They're slowly but surely erasing all the work the old TR devs did.
>>745959895what kind of schizo headcanon is this
>>745959007pls rspnd
>>745959895This sounds like a recipe for disaster if true.
>>745959007>>745959926have you tried reading the disclaimer directly below the showcase?
>>745959923Anon, the poison song update is literally that. Erasing the work of the old TR dev team.
>>745959879Sounds like a deal. Thanks.I was under the impression that later content were on the level of Bloodmoon though?
>>745959754Because of the fact it's a big de facto Imperial colony in mainland Morrowind, some argue that's not accurate at all because the mainland isn't supposed to be a colony like Vvardenfell is and that in the in-game books by the Daggerfall guy it is explicitly described as a Dunmeri city-state and such, and also because the quests are kinda silly
>>745960010So it is quite literally, a Poison Song.
>>745960010The old work that was filler content with almost nothing in it?That old work?
>>745959980If I could read I wouldn't be on 4chanThanks
>>745959923I don't know why this shit happens so often. Where people invent imaginary secret conflicts in their mind and exaggerate things they have no knowledge about. Like the "todd hates obsidian and he's jealous of new vegas" myth that somehow appeared and got so many details added for years
>>745958467Actually, I also did the mortar quest, and the artist quest.
>>745959923The one this same nigger makes over and over thread after thread>>745959895Oh it's you... hi...
>>745960097I'm gonna guess his application to join TR was rejected because he's a shit ideas guy
>>745948682check out stormrider expanded landsit's a sailable ship with an interior you can swim it through all the provinces
>>745928554I'm currently playing a skyrimnet playthrough, and it legitimately is like playing an entirely new elder scrolls game. I'm currently roleplaying with my cat wife after breeding her full of kids at my house. Skyrim mods are on a completely different level. Also, skyrim has actual working season mods, so I can play stardew valley in skyrim if I wanted and bang my cat wife.
>>745960097Do I need to remind you how the modern TR devs completely butchered the Old Ebonheart thieves guild questline because they it was the work of the old TR dev team?
I'm about to start new playthrough so PS will drop in around an hourI don't know how my autism will handle lack of alteration but I'll try, I think burglary will award me extra sneak experience so maybe I won't be forced to use npcs to train any of my class skills, I hate pumping up levels like that
>>745959754It's controversial because the lore is fucky. It's there because1. Some ext dev put a cool imperial city there in really ancient times, like the early 2000s2. The city called "Ebonheart" in Arena was on the mainland, and a major city, while TES3's Ebonheart is basically just a castle and it's on VvardenfellSo, the concept of "Old Ebonheart" was invented to justify the random ext city staying, drawing from the apparent absence/weird depiction of Arena's Ebonheart. This is a dubious argument, since nothing in TES3 suggests that this mainland city exists or is separate from the original Ebonheart, and if it did exist, it would certainly be a Dunmer city, not Imperial. Worse still, the city as implemented has stuff that makes no sense: it isn't clear whose castle Ebon Tower is, and the Imperial Curia has not existed in PT lore for years. As a result of all this, the city has had people wanting it removed (to strictly match canon) or remade (into a Dunmer city) for as long as it has existed.
>>745960135The fact that he never shows up when the "Old Ebonheart is awful and should be removed and TR is le bad because they haven't done it yet" guy is around is kinda suspect, makes me think it's the same guy trying to start shit
>>745960097It's especially funny for Morrowind modders because you'll have a hard time finding more non-confrontational people.
>>745960214idk why you make shit up when the update comes out literally today lol
>>745929042Its gotten much, much better over the years actually, We know have Vrit-a-Mate level penetration physics! and it works on Beasts too!
>>745960202This. It doesn't matter if you use OpenMW or MWSE, Stormrider works on both and give you a mobile base on a comfy ship.
>>745960205>faggot furry gooner shitBrainless retard
>>745960248Marksman is a bit iffy. You could try to get Block too.>Light ArmorIt's funny how decades ago, using Light Armor as opposed to Heavy Armor would have been blasphemy.
>>745960170I did see an angry post the other day where someone complained the TR devs don't actually want new contributors or something, he was saying they supposedly didn't have enough reviewers for him, so I assume he dumped a novel of ideasguy stuff on them
>>745960364I played with similar build before and sneak archery actually worked really nice, it's mostly so I have some ranged abilitylight armor mostly because it's light, I would go medium but at least early game I want to have my carry weight lowI'm planning for next playthrough to go with spellsword, that one will probably use heavy armor
>>745960324I've gotten more dynamic RP scenarions out of my custom skyrim modpack than I've ever had in any other Elder scrolls game, daggerfall included. And I've put a large amount of hours into both vanilla morrowind, and Tamriel Rebuilt. Sorry you're just not in the know. I've explored dwemer ruins and fought fully TTS/ synthed Dwemeri voices, and spoke to them directly. And they give you interesting tidbits of lore about Dwemeri culture, and the LLMs are smart enough to know the context of the dwemeri ghost/memory to not come up with shit that would break the canon. Try doing that in Morrowind.
>>745960272I could see a future where it's remade into a Dunmer city with a chinatown-esque Imperial section / fortbut I'd rather they redo Telvannis first because god damn that place is rough to go back to
>>745960531>scenarionsAn ESL is a stupid gooner faggot, who would have figured
>>745954061Traditional XP systems (should) work by incentivizing players to do fun things and then rewarding them, eg. You defeat a difficult boss, you get a big bump of XP you can spend on nice things. A use-to-improve system makes sense on paper but leads to some fucky incentives. A player might want to go out and do quests and dungeons but if they want to improve their crafting skill they need to sit around pumping out iron daggers. The point is to feel more immersive but the system is so distorted in various ways it never felt any more realistic to me than a classic XP system. Still, it's what people expect from TES.
>>745960364On the subject, are there any good mods for a marksman playthrough?
>>745959754>>745960043>>745960272I'll be honest, the people who hate Old Ebonheart and its lore just hate fun. Old Ebonheart has just the perfect amount of silliness that feels real, and I think it works well and offers unique content. A large Imperial city in the region actually works well and makes the Thirr River Valley interesting and a cosmopolitan mix of cultures (Hlaalu and Indoril alongside the Imperials) and is ripe for all kinds of interactions. The idea that it's a part of Vardenfell legally and Ebonheart Castle on the island is considered just a part of Old Ebonheart so that Imperials could try and colonize the island legally before Vivec just opened the island up anyway is perfect characterization of both Imperials and the Empire's relationship to Morrowind. The city originally being an Indoril city so HONORABLE that it killed and burned itself down to show how HONORABLE they were, only to be quite literally replaced by Imperials who took the free land and wonderful trade port is also perfect characterization of the Indoril.But above all else, Old Ebonheart s literally the city that saved Tamriel Rebuilt and its sister projects. Without its release and reception, nothing afterwards would've happened. That alone should give it some respect.
>>745960014>I was under the impression that later content were on the level of BloodmoonNah, nothing like that. You wont be swarmed with 50% magic resistant enemies with tons of hp or werewolf-tier enemies. You can kinda get fucked if you are under-prepared for Khalaan, but that is part of Temple quest you get in Necrom as uber-elite totally-not ordinator. Stick to Andothren, Almas Thirr, and Old Ebonheart - more than enough quests there for lvl 1 char to set off into adventures.
>>745959923That particular guy got his application to join TR rejected/ignored and now writes bizarre dev team fanfiction like that all day. No lie.
>>745960248for me it's
>>745960594>A player might want to go out and do quests and dungeons but if they want to improve their crafting skill they need to sit around pumping out iron daggers.I don't see the problem with this. This is how it should work.
>>745954061Because Elder scrolls games are sandbox games, more than they are traditonal RPGsIt only works in this context. See games like Kenshi, Mount and blade, etc.
Why didn't anyone tell me that N'Garde is the mod that redeems Spears?In that mod Spears have some of the highest parry coefficients so they are damn good at defending yourself, plus most other weapons have a penalty for parrying against Spears. It makes Spears good at actually being a tactical weapon without just buffing their damage. Same is true for Staves.
>>745960658>Old Ebonheart has just the perfect amount of silliness>sillinessWhat? Where?
>>745960658I agree and think Old Ebonheart is cool. It only became common to rag on it after Anvil and Narsis came out and started mogging it, but before that it was everyone's favorite place. It makes me furious every time one of the devs "jokingly" pushes to remove it
>>745960658You're right on all that but the #1 reason not to overhaul OE is because rework hell is what kills mod projects every time, 100% of the time. And OE is the most beloved part of the mod so far, so if it gets a REWOOOOORK then you know the project is fucking doomed. Allowing reworks is fine but they have to stick to bad, unfinished, empty areas that are not well-liked. Not the city that's the face of the mod and probably the best part of it.
>>745960658>The city originally being an Indoril city so HONORABLE that it killed and burned itself down to show how HONORABLE they were, only to be quite literally replaced by Imperials who took the free land and wonderful trade port is also perfect characterization of the Indoril.There should be more visible evidence of it's pre-Imperial past (or some butthurt Indoril questgives trying to plot a RETVRN)
>>745960658Gr8b8m8Old Ebonheart is garbage. TR should replace it entirely with something else. At least Poison Song is going to try and address some of the issues with it but it wont be enough. There arguably shouldn't even be a city there at all, at least not an Imperial City, since Morrowind obviously retconed ebonheart into being an imperial settlement on Vvardenfell.
>>745960830Meanwhile, Skyrim...
>>745960921Morrowind is a sandbox game too, its hardly a traditional RPG, it plays nothing like Baldurs gate 2
>>745960884Khalaan and the Raathim tomb feel sufficient to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ0Jhv9b0SE20 minutes until the stream starts3 hours until TR
>>745960603Not that I know off.Marksman is such a pain to level up.
>>745961021dang
>>745954061Because too many people are beholden to bullshit and anything immersive scares the shit out of them. Its literally "what do you mean my skills increase when i use them?! I want to do brew potions, level up, and allocate skill points into martial combat, not become better at brewing potions! YOU ARE TAKING CHOICE FROM ME!!!"
>>745960738Good to know. At least in the future I wont't have to farm too-Oh right, Guilds.
>>745960812Well it's boring is the problem. I'd rather have the XP from doing something fun and the game let me spend it how I want. Like I said, it doesn't feel particularly immersive either becoming a master blacksmith in an afternoon by shitting out a bunch of daggers.
>>745960014>>745960738Avoid Old Ebonheart. Stick to Bal Foyen, Almas Thirr, and the Aanthirim region in general minus OEThe only reason OE made it into the game is because no one cared about TR in 2018. And now the only reason it stays is because it would take too much time and resources better spent elsewhere to unfuck it
>>745961006Is this Q&A for TR or for those Skyrim fags?
>>745961129Why avoiding it?
>>745961129Please do fuck off. It has plenty of good stuff, especially the Thieves Guild. Please take your angst and just fuck off.
Man I wish Morrowind had NPC schedules, Hell, even the meme Oblivion radiant AI system would be welcomed. I love morrowind, but after going back to modded skyrim, I really do miss the AI and pathfinding improvements with that game.
>>745960860NTA but I think it has some of the vanilla-like silliness in some places. The mage's guild quest where you're told to just go buy booze. The thieves guild guy talking like a pirate. I think there was a guy at one bar who tries to fight you. The whole thing with the vault break-in is funny, if you enter the crime scene you can just instantly die. The bureaucrats who are just tired of this Dunmer nonsense, and the Telvanni sent a golem to talk to them since they're too good for that shit. The mad-hoosa shield the redguard weapon seller is hocking. There's a lot of little funny details.
>>745960854Removing the RPG aspects of Morrowind by changing the combat to be action slop made so that zoomers can play Morrowind without getting bored isnt playing morrowind. Just go play skyrim insteadThats also why no one told you anything about ngarde, btw
>>745961253>Just go play skyrim insteadPoor Oblivion...
>>745961129>gachatard has terrible opinionshocking
>>745961209Because its low effort fan fiction tier garbage
>>745961253This whole Morrowind resurgence movement that happened was entirely because of Zoomers, though. Most of them didn't even play the game on release, they weren't even born, yet lmao.
>>745961253How many of these crusty ass boomers on this thread actually use ngarde? Lol
>>745961253Still plenty of RPG elements.Parry damage reduction, stagger chance, parry window, chance of NPC parrying you and pretty much everything about the mod is calculated from weapon skills, agility and other stats.You still get shitfaced if your weapon skill is low.
>>745961386>still plenty of rpg elements>proceeds to list elements of action combatMight I interest you in Oblivion or Skyrim instead since thats clearly what you want
>>745961167I don't know
>>745961248And those are bad why? Sure, they might be on-the-nose a bit, yet they have consistency and congruity with actual content/woldsetting and dont exactly go over the top or feel out of place. I think some people simply try to make shit up and have issues with anything because their lives are too sheltered/boring. Its a non-issue.
>>745961109Blacksmithing is fun, not boring>i spend an entire afternoon making daggers to max my blacksmithingPersonal issue. You don't need max blacksmithing in one afternoon same as you don't need master enchanting in one afternoon or master alchemy or master your choice of weapon skill. It's obviously very immersion breaking to become a master in one afternoon but you made the choice to do that.
I'm going to try N'Garde and if I don't like it I'm gonna just uninstall it.Simple as.No mussNo fuss.
>>745961503I don't think they're bad. I think they're great. Didn't mean to give any other impression
Is there a proper smithing mod for Morrowind?I'd love to be able to go dig up some raw ebony, forge it into a blade, and then enchant it into my personal messenger of death.
>>745961456Stagger and block exists in vanilla Morrowind, dummy. Apparently vanilla Morrowind has action combat elements. Eew it's literally dark souls.
I have OpenMWslop fatigue
>>745961109it doesn't have to be boring if youre autistici usually move in with trainers and do shit like i'm actually training, like one time i shacked up with this dude for a month, training long blades doing athletics in the fields and shoveling shit after his guarswouldn't recommend, i bailed a week early
>>745961640Then play Vanilla Morrowind if its so similar faggot
>>745961661you can sill play your uncslop original game that's limited to 256 .esp files and crashes every 15 minutes
>>745961634openmw has
>>745961740what's it called
>>745961728wait MWSEfags are still limited to 255 esp? what the fuck, I would need to remove 2/3 of mods I have>>745961759crafting framework I think + whatever plugins it has
>>745961661can you post your vanilla engine morrowind modlist
>>745961728>256If you're using more mods than this then you're not playing Morrowind.
>>745961808most mwse mods now are pluginless
>>745960860Old Ebonheart being Vardenfell due to legal loopholes is a bit silly. But it's the kind of silly shit that would happen in real life.
>>745961808I can't even fathom morrowind needing so many mods I run over 255 espsI have a sick curiosity as to what your mod list even looks like
>>745961241https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58635With Lua dark magic anything is possible. It is kinda jank but it's a good proof of concept of what should be feasible once dehardcoding of OpenMW gets further along. And I'm sure other aspects of Todd's radiant AI will be implemented in time.
>zoomers need openmw and 300 mods to be able to stomach playing morrowind so that they can go online and pretend to be superior to their peers for liking it more than Skyrim despite trying their hardest to make it just like Skyrim
>>745960594>The point is to feel more immersive but the system is so distorted in various waysHow? How is it distorted? If i want to be better at spear i go and hit things with spear. If i want to brew better potions, i go and brew potions. If i have money, i use trainers to get better at things. How is it distorted? How is it worse than nonsense of "i killed big boss enemy with a stick, got level up, and now can talk like a savvy hustler"? I think its just the case of people not liking not having choice. And that availabilit of choice and lack of constraint is what gets their rocks off, because commitment is a constraint.
>>745961808>crafting framework I think + whatever plugins it haswell guess I have something to do until TR update drops
>>745960812There is no problem with that system. Problem is with players who want freedumbs and spreadsheet autism.
>>745961973I have only 900 mods in my morrowind while my skyrim has 3000+funnily enough I more turn skyrim into morrowind than other way
>>745962104Are there even 900 mods for morrowind? How the fuck, literally 10x as many as my list with a bunch of quest mods I never do
>>745960594>The point is to feel more immersive but the system is so distorted I dunno i think you're just an idiot, it doesnt get more straightforward than "do x to get better at x."Not to mention there's no limit to training and there's nothing else worth spending money on. If you dont want to grind up something like alchemy, for example, then pay to train your alchemy up.
>>745961591Anon, you did not give me that impression. Yes, they are great and give charm to the content, experience, and world/setting.Oh, dont forget the Khajiit prince who was bored to tears and ran away, and is much happier living in sewers catching rats.
>>745961973I played Morrowind for the first time on the day it released back then.I use gameplay mods like Ngarde because playing through vanilla mw+TR does get old and repetitive with vanilla combat.
>>745962185NEMAS list has 1500, though I skimmed through it and many of them are kinda pointless "what if you killed vivec and yagrum but wanted to still finish MQ"
>>745961973I need openmw yeah, I rawdogged oblivion and it never worked. Openmw just werks.
>>745962185Because half of those mods are like>high res mesh for a spoon that's used only in Telvanni houses>1k textures for the spoon>1k normal maps for the spoon>high res mesh for a knife that's used only in Telvanni houses>...we have this shit because tranny mods don't allow you to make a compilation of their mods because then they lose precious nexusmods download count
Why do Daggerfall devs hate/are incapable of understanding MK giving each culture their own version of the Imperial pantheon? Bruce Nesmith completely gutted the Nords in Skyrim. The Nords are going around complaining about not being able to worship Talos like they suddenly forgot their own history and beliefs. I'm surprised that Alduin and Shor were even called that in game and not Akatosh and Lorkhan
>>745960658Best post in this thread
>>745961129>>745961973Get some friends
>>745962396Forgot my pic, I hope they continue to release areas but it's taken so long for Markarth Side to come out that I have no hope for any releases after that
>>745962509Yeah I like what they're doing but holy shit they're fucking slow.
>I love Morrowind but I would never ever play it without 2000 mods that turn it into a different game entirely
>>745961910Does every NPC even have a home to return to though?
>>745962696I love Morrowind and other TES games BECAUSE I can turn them into anything with 2000 mods.
>>745962509>>745962686They're planning to rework pretty much everything already released alongside Markarth Side which inflated the workloadAs for why because Skyrim is easily the weakest out of the three released projects
>>745961006>3 hours of random bs before 15 of TRannoying, guess I'll go sleep instead
>>745962842>As for why because Skyrim is easily the weakest out of the three released projectsStill better than old ebonheart
I know this isn't an unpopular take by any means but fuck the factions in Skyrim are so bad and radiant quests are so low effort
>potato seedfucking citycucks creating farming mods REEEEEEE
>>745962842The main issue with it is that you need to be strong enough to fight solstheim enemies to do it.
>>745963038how else are you supposed to plant potato trees?
>>745960658Couldn't have said it better myself. The only reason the modern TR team haven't complexly replaced Old Ebonheart (even though they really REALLY want to) is because they know it would cause a massive shitstorm in the community. OE represents the passion and work of the old TR team, and I'll be dammed if anyone tries to erase that.
>>745963038>morrowind has the best, most functional menu UI out of all the ES games>"No I MUST make it look like SkyUI"
>>745963136come on, vanilla inventory UI is a fucking mess
>>745962842Unmodded: Morrowind > Skyrim > OblivionModded: Morrowind = Skyrim >>> Oblivion.Skyrim's saving grace is the rich scripting system and stability, plus it has the largest modding community. Mods fix literally everything. Like adding a shitload of extra spells and expanding the factions, the weakest parts of Skyrim. Skyrim's base spells are kinda shitty, but it still has the potential for being the best magic system because of the vanilla support for channeled spells and mainhand/offhand spellcasting.
>>745963217nigga he's talking about the skyrim land mod for morrowind
>>745963274I realized that after posing it
>>745963130I like these bait posts
>>745963217>Skyrim's base spells are kinda shittyNot kinda shitty, they are complete crap which is why magic mods are so popular for skyrim
>>745963217skyrim magic is easily the worst of the three even with mods and offhand/mainhand spellcasting sucks donkey dicks
>>745961973I use MWSE, and my mod list is only 90 mods big.
>>745963381It does have some cool spells which Morrowind doesn't have, though.Like channeled flamethrower spell or maintained shield/barrier that deflects spells. It's also nice that you can cast another spell with your mainhand while channeling barrier in your offhand.
>>745963426It's incomparably better than MW's janky system where you have to put away your weapons and ready your hands.
>>745963482Cool visually, sure. Most of Skyrims spells are cool visually which is why I think so many zoomers think Skyrims magic is good. Mechanically though they are all fucking awful and not fun to use, and the shitty vanilla perk trees do nothing to help that.
>>745963217>Mods fix literally everythingLOL. They cannot fix shit-tier writing, quest design, and world setting.Show me a mod that allows you to kill Maven Blackbriar. Show me a mod that allows you to get into Thalmor embassy before Delphine gives you Diplomatic Immunity. Show me a fix that allows me to kill Ulfric right then and there in Windhelm and end the civil war without ever engaging in it. Show me a mod that allows me to kill Ancano and effectively skip most of mages guild bullshit questline. Thats right. You cannot. Because those mods dont exist. Mods cannot fix inherent issues that are in Skyrim.
>>745963593It's literally just a scaling problem. Spells feel bad because they don't do enough damage on high level enemies. It's a simple numeric fix.
>>745962759Of course not, it says right there on the mod page they go to the nearest "safe place" and if that place is full they go to the next one down the list. It seemed to work fine when I tested it a while ago, and I didn't see any pathfinding issues, thought that could just be down to luck and not hanging around huge places like Narsis with 200+ NPCs.
>>745961808>>745962079okay this is actually kinda sick
>>745963549In terms of actually casting a spell, sure, but Morrowinds spell effects are all infinitely more functional, numerous, and customizable.Plus, if were going to talk about modding too, MCP lets you cast instantly while holding a weapon. You never see zoomers talk about this because they all use OpenMW
>>745963668In addition to all the effects being boring. Holding down a button to channel a spell looks cool but functionally is not very interesting
Anyone who thinks the issue with Skyrims magic is simply the scaling has never meaningfully interacted with magic in Morrowind or even Oblivion
>>745914768stfu you n'wah
>>745963719>MCP lets you cast instantly while holding a weaponThat's infinitely more zoomerpilled than OpenMW though?>ughhhh what do you mean I have to actually raise my hands to cast a spell?? why can't I just instantly spawn a fireball from my mace
>>745963927Nothing is more zoomerpilled than OpenMW
>>745963549>mw>switch between weapon and spellcastingkino>skyrim>one hand HAS to be spellcasting no you cannot be sword and board and switch to spellcasting then switch back to sword and board NO you cannot weild a 2hander and switch to spellcasting quickly you want to cast in combat then one hand must be sacrificed SlopDual spellcasting is worthless woaw it does more damage!!!! It's jingling keys and I'm not a baby.>inb4 modsMW magic mods are better.
>>745963962lol
>>745964020I think Oblivion was best in this regard, but Morrowind has the best spell effectsSkyrims "spells must take up a hand" is awful.
I'm looking forward to 0.52's magic improvements
>>745963710idk if you got that mod which spawns ores randomly in world idk if there is a way to get them normally
can u add the modded land to an existong save cause i feel like i should play the og first before playing any modded content
>>745964343Yeah I grabbed that one too
>>745964020>MW magic mods are better.come on anon... not even the biggest nostalgiafag can be this delusional. MW magic mods are garbage and don't add a single interesting spell
>>745952548a beast race becoming the honor guard for a society that enslaves them is hilarious
>>745964624>don't add a single interesting spellHard to add interesting spells when your game is already full of them AND has spellcrafting so that you can add your own
>>745964624Funny because I didn't play morrowind way back then and actually played skyrim first so it's literally impossible for me to be a nostalgiafag
Has anyone tried the new Kezyma's Remastered? I used his old list last year.
>>745964585If you've never beaten base Morrowind and Tribunal then Id recommend doing that first since Morrowind and Daggerfall are the only games with a well written and interesting story
>>745964741Nothing more cucked than using mod collections
>>745958280Agreed but I am biased for Cyrodiil, probably the province Im most excited for besides High Rock. Theyre really going with a unique take on those provinces so they are not just "generic fantasy" while still using their classical depictions too. I love the Berserk gnome creatures they made for High Rock for example, really cool stuff. Also for Skyrim as well, I personally like seeing these provinces because in Morrowind everrything is fantastical and alien. Its great ofc but seeing provinces that at first appear more mundane and then have their own fantastical and alien parts makes those elements stand out more. Anvil is a perfect example of this imo because it feels like Oblivion but the unique creatures and flora they added gives it lots of mystique. The Imperials also feel more unique than just roman larpers which is nice. Im excited for the rest of Colovia.
>>745963472Shh, you'll upset the OpenMW dev.
>>745964848Post mod list
>>745958280Anvil is too black coded
>>745948853I thought I was the only one that thought like this. Oblivion to me is basically if Daggerfall were good, weren't so big that it couldn't have hand placed attention to detail in its proc gen esque world design.
>>745964865>Theyre really going with a unique take on those provincesAll theyre doing is following the lore available for them as of Morrowinds release
>>745964956Anvil is literally supposed to be an Italian city on the Mediterranean coast. Do you retards think Southern Italy is green?
>>745964741>MWSE editionEw. Just use POTI or NEMAS.
>>745965116There's an MWSE and OpenMW edition. Read, nigger/
Genuinely I dont understand the autism around old ebonfartIts a nice port town and I like the quests
>>745964956>its dry and it's not cloudy 90% of the time so it must be AfricaEuros should not be allowed to post on the internet
i want an orc girl to crush my dick with her biceps.
>>745965108Sicily is too black coded
>>745965203An OpenMW edition that's objectively inferior by having to accommodate and share mods with the ToddTech edition, retard.Enjoy your CTDs.
>>745965454It's two different editions genius.
>>745960205This is by far some of the gayest shit I've ever read, just end your life.
Any recommendations for backpack mods? I would love an Outward style system where my actual carry weight is tiny and I have to have a big backpack to carry shit with
Genuinely dont understand why people like Old Ebonheart. In a mod project that apparently values TES3 lore they sure didnt when making this city. The buildings all obviously clip into each other and look bad, and the quests are all fanfic tier retardation that really needed an editor to reign in.
>>745965669What game is this because it's not Morrowind
>>745960658Very well said. Id also add that Morrowind is a very hostile province to outlanders without much foreign presence (besides Argonian and Khajiit slaves). thats different from Hammerfell, High Rock Cyrodiil and probably Skyrim to an extent, the human provinces, which would likely get on with teh Empire more. I'd expect outlanders brought it by the Empire would want to live together and the Empire would want to charter cities in the more hostile and impenetrable provinces (Morrowind, Black Marsh, Valenwood.) It is an EMPIRE after all, and all those outlanders arent necessarily going to want to move into more hostile Dunmer cities. They'd band together and the Empire would facilitatet that. Its the Imperial hub in the province its cool
>>745965756have you tried reading my post
Ok, let's compare the two magic systems. I didn't mention spells that both games have. Yes I have autism.ALTERATION:SR: armor spells are 2-3 times as strong if you're not wearing armor, letting you bathrobemaxx while in MW there is no reason for a mage not to wear heavy armor. SR: has rune spells that can be placed as traps, like paralysis or elemental traps.MW: has detect key and detect enchantment spells, SR only has detect life/undead.MW: burden, feather, jump, levitate, open, lock, slowfall, water waling, etc. MW is the clear winner here, but SR's runes are pretty fun to play with.CONJURATION: SR has some extra perks for bound weapons, like banishing summoned enemies on hit or casting soul trap. Overall they are slightly more satisfying to use, MW versions are just simply overpowered and trivialize early game.SR has reanimate, which can revive an actual NPC to fight for you. You can also summon a horse to ride. SR has banish undead/daedra instead of just turning them.SR only allows a single summoned creature for balance. If you hate it, then MW is better because conjuration spam is more viable. Otherwise SR conjuration is more balanced.DESTRUCTION:SR has elemental specific perks, like fire does damage over time and may panic enemies, frost slows targets and may freeze them, shock drains magicka and may disintegrate. SR has more spell types. MW only has touch and target. SR has touch, target, continuous spray, rune, wall, multitarget(like chain lightning).MW has damage attribute, weakness to element, disintegrate weapon/armor(only used for stealing), drain attribute/skill. The problem is that in practice no one ever uses these spells, they are expensive and not worth it. SR wins easily, the elemental spell type variety is a game changer.
>>745965663leave it to morrotrannies to be completely ignorant and blind to anything outside of there little snow globe universe.
>>745965885ILLUSION:MW has blind, chameleon, charm, silence, sanctuary, sound.MW lets you just spellcraft stronger spells. SR crowd control spells are level capped and you have to invest into talent points to raise their max level. This is cancer. MW illusion is WAY better. MYSTICISM:Doesn't exist in Skyrim, some spells are rolled into other schools. MW has mark, recall, reflect, spell absorption, alsmivi/divine intervention spells that are missing from SR. MW obviously wins here.RESTORTATION:SR has Ward spells which are like a magically maintained shield that gives armor and lowers spell damage. Arguably more interactive to use than just slapping some fire resist, reflect, spell absorption on yourself.SR has some anti-undead damage spells that are restoration themed like Sun Fire.MW has resist spells, fortify attribute/skill/stat. Forttify completely breaks the game if you abuse it, so having them is not necessarily all that great.MW wins if you like fortify spells. SR wins if you like wards.CONCLUSION: Morrowind has more spells overall, but some of them are either useless or overpowered. Skyrim's destruction is its main strength, all the new types of attack spells make battlemage way more fun. As long as you install some mods that make it actually scale against high level enemies.
>>745965885>>745965963>SR wins easilyg8b8m8
>>745915195it will take your entire rest of your life and progress will slow as more devtrannies suicide
>>745965535Yes and he made them share the same mod install. The OpenMW version is cucked out of a bunch of mods and the MSWE looks and runs worse.Just use a modlist built from the ground up with OpenMW in mind, that's all my original post was saying.
>>745961728>limited to 256 .esp fileshow would this ever pose a problem>and crashes every 15 minutesonly OpenMW has done that to me
>>745965669Have you tried going on nexus mods and typing "backpack" in the search bar?
Are there purchasable houses in Tamriel Rebuilt cities?
>>745966105>how would this ever pose a problemBecause zoomers love 1000+ mod mod packs
>>745966143No, they are free. Just kill the owner.
>>745966143No
>>745965303It's just one mentally ill anon trying to stir up trouble out of thin air.
lol
>>745966191>>745966221cringe
kek
>>745966143Anvil has one but you need to be far along the questline to get it
/ourguy/ is livehttps://www.youtube.com/live/hsPEBePUOk8?si=K73g0d5Tb7kpXy1B
>>745965885>CONJURATION:>SR has some extra perks for bound weapons, like banishing summoned enemies on hit or casting soul trap. Overall they are slightly more satisfying to use, MW versions are just simply overpowered and trivialize early game.>SR has reanimate, which can revive an actual NPC to fight for you. You can also summon a horse to ride.>SR has banish undead/daedra instead of just turning them.>SR only allows a single summoned creature for balance. If you hate it, then MW is better because conjuration spam is more viable. Otherwise SR conjuration is more balanced.Can I summon a bonewalker in Skyrim? Can I summon a spear in Skyrim?
>>745965303Old Ebonheart and Port Telvannis are perfectly fine and in line with some of the weaker vanilla Morrowind content. It's just that some of the other lands in TR are way better quality than vanilla Morrowind.Port Telvannis mouth quests are basically the same brainless fetch quests that Sadrith Mora Telvanni mouths give you in vanilla. They are meant to introduce you to all the Telvanni towers in the region.Old Ebonheart has some weaker quests like the first two Mage Guild fetch quests, but then after those quests the remaining ones are pretty fun.
>>745965669ashfall
>>745966445They finished all the guild questlines in OE with Poison Song, right?
>>745966657Sure did. They're going to use the new area apparently.
>>745966365>Skyrim modders jerking each otherIt's such a sad sight. No wonder they put TR and PT at the very end, it would have just humiliated them.
>>745966432Can I summon a skeleton archer in Morrowind?The list of conjurations are somewhat different, but both games have plenty of them. Skyrim's list is probably longer.
>>745963698Did you find any issues with quest NPCs? Or have they done a good job keeping people in specific locations when they're needed
>>745965706I am an outsider, but from what I gather it's probably the closest to vanilla Morrowind, Bethesda's writing, and it's symbolic of the origin of the entire project.
>>745966432Conjuration is so hilariously gutted and lame in Skyrim I cant believe this retard is even trying to compare it to MW
>>745966757So no I can't summon a bonewalker or a spear in skyrim. I just noticed the part about MW conjuration being unbalanced early, very funny considering Skyrim conjuration becomes shit as everything outscales the summons.
>>745966149>Because zoomers love 1000+ mod mod packsGod damn, and what's really wild is they aren't even bundled together either are they. They had to pick and choose that many individually.
>>745966975Apparently being lame and gay (balanced as he called it) is better than being fun.
>>745967074lol no zoomer would do that, they just grab the most popular reddit mod pack
>>745966974>it's probably the closest to vanilla Morrowind, Bethesda's writingIt is absolutely neither of these things
>>745948683Is the time slot for only 15 minutes for both Project Tamriel and Tamriel Rebuilt a slap in the face or an acknowledgement that they are the only ones out of all these groups that actually releases content?
>>745967373BS devs need to scam people out of more money
>>745967373that's all they wanted, and they're probably right. the other projects just bullshit and walk around for an hour because you can't go and play them to see for yourself
>>745967373No, they really don't need more than that. And they show more than all the Skyrim mods combined in hours. Last year BS Cyrodiil was like two hours long and featured a live commentary on the completion of a single quest voiced by AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4T4MRVK
>>745967373TR has enough momentum that all it needs is a "Poison Song releases after the show / on August xth"PT is carried by its association with TR so they can just do a flyover of the WIP parts of Kvatch / Markarth and MAYBE a brief preview of Hammerfell.BS has no standing and thus needs to dedicate hours of time showing that they have been doing something.
>>745967684I hope PT will show little more of the Markarth and Anvil update.
Where is Skywind
>>745967808in my ass
>>745967613>be early first era nibenese villager>a bunch of insane city people who worship a fucking monkey drag your local god off in chains to do body horror shit to it in an underground temple>no, you aren't getting it back, eitherI'm surprised the War of Righteousness didn't happen earlier
>>745967684>BS has no standing and thus needs to dedicate hours of time showing that they have been doing something.This showcase is their output and their final product. It's all they will ever actually produce.
>>745966365David Lynch ahh character design on this guy
looks like there is 1 tr dev in there now at least
>>745968183TR block is 1h15m from now, right?
>>745966263The sexiest man in Morrowind.
>>745968120ChatGPT will quickly create quests for them, anon.
>>745968286Assuming they keep to timings I think so. There's a 1hr VTM thing up next. Wouldn't be shocked if the BS guys run over though.
>>745968393i wish it would, but a big part of BS's problem is that they have """"""""""""writer"""""""""""" as a dev role, all of whom are cancerous do-nothing ideasguys who work with no consideration to actual implementation or parity with vanilla and throw everything out to restart every three years. these guys are also the leadership so they will never get rid of themselves
>>745968553The problem is much bigger than that. The entire BS structure is complete garbage. TR and PT have come such a long way and are actually releasing stuff because they’re genuinely motivated to do so, and their workflow reflects that. Skyrim modders, in general, really love just jerking off in front of the mirror.
>>745968553>skyrim fans in charge of writing and loreLmao no wonder they never release anything
>>745967808What the fuck is Beyond Skyrim, where is Skywind at, I haven't even heard of this bullshit
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/47135?tab=descriptionI quite like this mod. I need to find an equivalent for TR/PT's settlements.
Bet if TR gets new update live mid stream their website would crush, despite all the donations.
>>745968553This is one of the main reasons that 'writers' in TR/PT have to actually build the quest/book in the dev kit, weeds out most of the useless people. I think the only exception is for art assets where someone could do concept art for a statute and then a 3d asset person goes and builds it...
>>745968771Beyond Skyrim is PT for Skyrim, but over the course of a decade the only thing they've released is...Bruma. And it was just a copy paste of Oblivion
>>745968860Oblivion had some pretty good quests, BS Bruma quests are literally fetch quests for guards.
>>745968860Ah god, it will take forever, they have to voice act everything, dear god.
>>745968183Did he say anything at all during the whole stream?
Recommended level for PT Anvil?
>>745969012They haven't even written half of the quests yet. It's a waste of time. The worst part is that they plan to release the entire province at once instead of releasing it in parts. Anvil may be mostly ready, but we won't see it until they finish the Imperial City and the rest of Cyrodiil. Bruma was the exception.
>>745968860To be fair, how long was PT just Stirk?
>>745968941That and since it's fucking Bruma County you dont even feel like you left Skyrim which is probability the only reason it was even able to be finished
>>745969053he answered a question about how Mournhold will be implemented in Almalexia and very shortly answered another question about whether or not OpenMW updates cause them problems
>>745969181The difference is that Stirk was more like proof of concept, and the full-scale work didn't begin until later. Same goes for SHOTNMorrowind saw a huge surge in popularity around 2020 and that's essentially when all these projects started to gain momentum.
>>745962396IIRC Nesmith is like a TTRPG writer. He's probably used to the DnD approach to religion and thinks MK's multiple pantheons across different cultures approach is needlessly complicated clutter. He probably would rather have the 8 divines be the main gods everybody worships, the daedra the bad guy gods that evil cultist enemy worships, and then a couple of miscellaneous gods here and there to give flavor to one specific ruin or whatever
>>745969246>Almalexiawow how interesting good to learn something they've planned for 2049 release
>>745970126>IIRC Nesmith is like a TTRPG writer.Not really an excuse when Glorantha/HeroQuest exists
>>745965365Yes unironically. Cold, rainy and cloudy weather is white, hot/dry weather is for niggers and browns. That is a fact. If white people were meant to live in hot places Europe would be hot
Why is the vampire dev so fucking pissy
>>745970651literally look at any stereotypical vampire ever
new thread for the upcoming PS that will SURELY come out in few minutes?
>>745970126>IIRC Nesmith is like a TTRPG writerSo are Rolston and Khulman and theyre both way more talented creatives than Nesmith is
>>745970828there's already one up
>>745970954Nah, the threads that start by talking about Morrowinds combat end up talking about anything except Morrowind
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>>745970547Lorkhan is from RQ right? There's some dude out there who's literally a killed god
>>745971093There's another one
>>745971126A lot of Gods die in HQ, its really important to the story of the creation of mortal time and the God Time in Glorantha
>>745968086>"The elites don't want you to know this, but the gods at the park are free. You can take them home. I have 458 gods."
