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>>745956628Did he finally fix the female Harbinger mod after the update broke it?Also I swear they didn't balance these fucking weapons, there's basically no reason to use the slower stuff except for Role-Play.
>>745957009Actually I just booted up the game again and it was working again. This thicc version is still a bit outdated since it A-poses on the equipment screen but it's working for actual gameplay and for me that's all I really care about.
>>745957274Fair enough. I'll probably just play as a Skeleton until the normal version gets fixed.
>>745956628am I the only one playing without any thicc mod?
>>745957469No ofc not I completed it without bullshit mods + she is already musclemommy
>>745957469Proxima is already stacked as it is.
>>745956628I just installeded it in 4kwhat am I in for
YOU TOLD ME THERES NO WAIFUI SEE WAIFU ALREADY THO???
>>745957601>>745957558>musclemommygragu would overpower and rape her with zero effort thougheverbait
there's a mod that unrestricts tarstone infusions but how badly would this ruin the balance of the game? I don't even know what most of the statuses do.
>>745957828>>745957880trust me disable chromatic aberration
>>745957764>>745957828The villagers are honestly super chill for accepting the Harbinger as one of their own when he looks like a fucked up burn victim alien.
>>745957869>GraguThe bear? He bottoms to Tiel instantly
>>745957828Only lil tattletale is waifu uohhh
>>745957764Disable framegen, and after the tutorial unlock all shells instead of leveling up
>>745957972tiel died by aids anyway
>>745958128How do you think he got it?
>>745957869Doubt it, I'm sure the predator mommy can hit you from double his fist range
>>745956628The longer I play it, the more glaring issues becoming apparent and it absolutely annoying me to no ends. Probably wait for couple of patches
>>745957951thanks>>745957980uoh?!
>>745958092frame gen was disabled by default for me and the game is super smooth even if my CPU is super outdated
>>745958161Genesha's clones snu snu
>>745958183Like what?Mine is that you can't upgrade all tarstones since if you max them you can hit a point where you have all them maxed but can't get any more tarcores
>>745958183I pirated it. I see the potential, but this is one of those games that will be 10x better in two years AND cheaper.
>>745958092>Disable framegenwhy?
>>745958167he will probe his thoughts and find out that gragu has a giant 20'' penis so she submits to him instantlyimagine the ultra rough sexo when the unstoppable cock meets the unmovable vagina
some metyr mother of fingers vibes
tfw destroyed monolith and zmey with tielyou retards had me thinking they were some giga bosses
>>745958128Yeah it's not badly optimized, plays fine on rtx 2060 and a laptop cpu
>>745958362Framegen causes the game to be way less stable for some retarded ass reason.
>>745958183>i have concerns >no I'm not gonna say it
>nigga with a big swordoh yeah im blasting
>>745958485quite sure you quoted the wrong message dude
>>745958198She sells you out like Judas
>>745958613>disloyal brat.. needs correction
>>745958362It probably needs more work, most anon crashes seem to ne due to that
photo mode please
>>745957274>>745957009>>745956628where do i find this mod?
>>745958613Why did (you) convince those guys to commit ritualistic suicide anyway? It's not like (you) needed them to be there to watch you explode.
>Accidentally killed the guy in the beacon roomaw
>>745958916I don't think the Harbinger convinced them of anything considering you're a weird mouthless space alienPretty sure the Mether was whispering to them or some shit, probably were drinking that tar.
>Infusions (and tarstones in general) are weapon specific, sometimes reserved to a single weapon, severely limiting buildcrafting>Glimpses are a limited resource per playthrough, meaning the player can waste them on shells they will end up not liking to use, adversely affecting their experience for that playthrough>Beacon placement is absolute trash for the most part, sometimes you have two beacons within sight of eachother, sometimes there are massive areas between them>There's almost zero balancing between shells, with Proxima being the clear dev pet that can be built to be basically unkillableThese are the issues I've identified during my time with the game.
>>745958915Normal version is here https://files.catbox.moe/c4uxe3.zipNot sure about the thicc version, I think the latest update fucked up the mod tho.
The level design in this game is abysmal dogshit. Why is it when you enter a new area there is no checkpoint or anything. Enter a dungeon and expect a checkpoint at the start of it? Nope fuck you. You will trek through the entire map for another attempt. There is literally no point in killing any enemies in open world because they don't drop any items. You are literally encouraged to skip everything and ninja loot, unless there is some kind of open world boss encounter.
>>745958825Yeah we the one from the first game>>745958916It was Mether and she's a bit cuckoo
>Tiel perfect dodge is objectively inferior to any other perfect guard or perfect parry mechanic because enemies just flail about and hit you anywaythis game fucking sucks
>find a fuckguge two-handed sword>it hits like a wet noodle + it takes ages to make one swing + has one of the worst movesets in the entire gameShould've expected this, in soulsop you always go full light weapons or get stabbed multiple times while trying to land a hit with your big paddle.
>>745959184There's a mod for that or if you haven't updated crtl+C
Monolith is such a fucking bad fight it's actually staggering.
>>745959117how do you install mods?
>>745959280It's actually the opposite. Stealth breaks their targeting and once you get the upgrade where his dodge creates a clone that sharts on enemies with poison it's GG. You just walk behind them and because he also has an ability to increase back damage you just delete even endgame enemies.
>>745959290You want the two-handed AXE
>>745959310and even then monolith got a damage + hp nerf
>>745959184>It's dogshit because there's no Stake of Marika before every boss fogHoly shit imagine if you actually played a NES game where you had to restart the entire level every time you died. Modern /v/ is so soft. I know you faggots are 35+ on average so you don't even have the zoomer excuse, you're just washed.
>>745959329Create a folder named ~mods in MortalShell2\Content\Paks and place the files there.Again, think it was broken with the update, but you're welcome to try.
>>745959368>You just walk behind themnot when their preprogrammed follow up spam attacks deletes you because being invisible doesn't mean invulnerable
>>745956628Now I will buy your game
am I an ayylmao? i dont want to be an ayylmao
>>745959510Yes it does, that's how I beat 80% of the bosses in the game.When you get the ability that causes you to create a clone on Shadowing it gets even easier since they magnetize to the clone instead. Add onto that the one where you go invisible if you fuck up a parry/block. Tiel is legitimately the most broken Shell in the game.
>>745959426Yeah lets compare linear NES games that you can beat in 30 minutes to this modern open world game that makes you go around like a bumbling idiot with no direction with the sole purpose trying to cheese you into dying so you lose hours of progress just because there is no save spot anywhere. Shut the fuck up dimwit.
>>745959184>>745959649You die, you go back.
Man the hexapod arena sucks. Okay its cool conceptually but could they lighten up with the fog once its dead? Spent an embarrassing amount of time finding the beacon
>>745959649>Oh shit did you just make an argument? Well how about this hysterical strawman bullshit??? I just lied through my teeth, bet you feel pretty stupid huh!!Stop being brown.
What’s her diet?
>>745959796Weltcaps and the extracted samples of her prey.
>>745959510I killed the last 4 bosses in the game including the supposedly difficult final area by abusing stealth and backstabbingeasiest shit of my life
>>745959737Nice buzzwords, faggot shill.
>>745959731Exit to main menu and then enter game again you spawn next to beacon I think all the time
>ripostes still do fuckall damage even with the tarstone and Eredrim trait upgradedaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaI should've just played Proxima
>>745956628I'm chugging through it at my own pace. My old man moment is that I can't marathon games for 5-6 hours anymore without getting tilted and burnt out. But I'm enjoying it.
>>745959913Yeah but playing as generic knight man is cool.
>>745956628if you have to force a thread with Pajeet tier off-model mods, your game is officially dogshit
>>745960314It sure is.
Game can be fun but tilting as fuckWuchang is a better souls-likeKhazan is a better game all around
>>745959874Oh okay yeah that would have been easier. On another note I find it weird that the hexapod dungeon gate isn't in the area that had a bunch of parasite enemies in the environment outside the gate. Its the first of the southern gates I've cleared so IDK if none of the southern gates are themed to match their environment like the northern gates were
>>745959582The foundling from the first game was the son of a giant space ayy mother or some shit, he even had a sister.
Genuinely what's the purpose of limiting glimpses other than tacking on artificial replayability to a game without good enough level design to support multiple playthroughs
>>745960349>>745960468>posted it again award
>>745960468Any action game mogs soulslop so this isn't a high bar.
>>745960314Which is why it's annoying that this series' only generic knight mans either didn't come back for the sequel or dies in the prologue, forcing you to play as big chud knight mans instead
>>745960697Nah Eredrim is cool, I agree it would've been nice if you could go back and get Harros back later tho.
>>745960468I liked this more than Khazan shit, thank god that studio wont release more of that since they sold bad. Wuchang is better yes.
I didn't play the first game so IDK if theres a reason that 3 of the 5 shells from that game got scattered at the start of this game and the other 2 don't make an appearance. Genessa namedrops the foundling in her memories so I think we're still supposed to be in the same timeline
>>745961036There's some weird timeline shit going onI think I heard some autist who was way more keyed on the first game's lore that MS1's first playthrough progresses as normal, but then canonically NG+ happens and then with the Virtuous Cycle DLC the Foundling ascends for real so fucking around with timelines isn't off the table.
>>745959426>Holy shit imagine if you actually played a NES game where you had to restart the entire level every time you died. Modern /v/ is so soft. I know you faggots are 35+ on average so you don't even have the zoomer excuse, you're just washed.I blame ubisoft
The game's alright, it's a soulslike so the souls inspirations are everywhere and obvious. The normal/heavy chains feel floaty. I like that you can do perfect parries immediately and the shell ability is cool. It's not an auto win button like some katana movesets in ER but does help to prolong your attack window and survivability if you time it right. There's decent enemy variety at the start which is good.It's a 7 for now
>>745959184>The game from the punishing genre actually tries to be punishing OooOOooH SAVE ME GOD give me a checkpoint quickI wish I could undone Elden Ring so it never happened so the genre would not get flooded with 10 billion whiney casual niggers.
Why do weapon upgrades feel so fucking shit? It doesn't matter how many upgrades you get, weapons still feel like absolute shit and deal like 50 damage per swing even with +12
>>745961415Gotta go back even further if you wanna get rid of all the tourists. Prepare to Die Edition was the start of the decline.
>>745961465because they got a retarded calc in place for weapon damageas you level you get +1 weapon damage which is then multiplied by your weapon % damageat 55 I believe I had +13 damage
>>745961415Okay but this game doesn't even provide shortcuts to the bonfires. Are you telling me Soulslop was always casualized?
>>745961205>7 for now>still in the tutorial
>>745961415>le punishing genreyour "genre" is literally just Action RPG with extra bad game mechanicsAny game where you can just run past enemies to progress because it's better than playing the game is a bad game
Why do so many Soulsfags conflate tedium with difficulty?
>>745961573>>745961703You must learn discipline.
>Meeting egon as LazloMan, that hurts.
>>745961415>tries to be punishing>no stamina lole
Is there a mod to give Lazlo ozempicHe's the coolest in almost every metric but I can't fucking see around that nigga's orbital radius even before he gains the solar battle aura
>"Dude this game needs checkpoints! Why can't it have checkpoints! But seriously why no checkpoints?!">"lol it's not hard, it's just tedious"Wasn't aware DSP posted in these threads
>???>pick up>wake up in a cellHappened like 4 times so farwhat the fuck slavs?
>>745961893>no checkpoints at the start of discreet dungeons>when you complete them you have to MANUALLY mark them as completed on your map because the game is too retarded to do it for youYeah the devs are are very brown-coded
>>745961893>his mind can't comprehend that more than two people can post in the thread at once
>>745961576Yes shillbro it's called a first impression review. It doesn’t take ten hours to tell whether basic/heavy attacks feel floaty or whether the game’s vibe/atmosphere is compelling. Those are immediate qualities and the tutorial is LITERALLY where the game is supposed to make its good first impression.
>>745962002>>745962070Okay, Phil. Let's get you back to bed, you need to wake up early for your next gacha pull
>>745961205im playing on a 3060TI with everything in medium at 1440pi get it, i will enjoy the game the same, i will kill the same bosses blablabla but your game looks gorgeousThats all, im a bit jelly
>>745961205Glad you're having fun so far Anon, be wary the beacon placement can be diabolical at times. Second half will either make or break your enjoyment.
>>745962193>3060tiCan't you use raytracing with dlss? anyways it's not a big deal to use medium graphics in this kind of game. It mostly looks nice for close objects at specific lighting angles which I hunt for. It doesn't look amazing all the time
Genuinely don't understand why these games can't be more creative or innovativeTake some inspiration from Souls games sure, but stop copying every dogshit dated design element and create something that's actually good and fun to play
>>745956628Game looks pretty mediocre, maybe 3 will be decent
The farther I get in this game the more dogshit hardening gets. I'm actually pretty mad about this.
I really wonder how much the beacon placements would have messed me up if I was playing anyone not named gragu. Feels like I'm cool to walk past a lot of beacons especially in the gate dungeons just because of how safe/self-sustaining he is
>>745962663i truly dont really give a fuck about the graphics 1 minute after launching the game, im all about the gameplay but then i see a nice looking screenshot with raytracing and nicer textures and i get jealous for a bit, thats all, it will pass
>>745962889>he used easy mode and now is upset it doesn't carry him through the endgameDeserved
>>745962924Didnt try Gragu but he seems like a good exploration character, still the beacons in many places are not that bad imo. I heard the main problem with Gragu is that Vratko wont wash your feet anymore.
>>745961703The amount of people I've seen attempting a boss when they die in two hits when they can just respec to a different shell or roam around and level up ...
>>745962529Thanks
>>745963021Properly using harden is unironically harder than just running around and perfect guarding.
>>745963071nta but totally different runbacks and tedium are gaybut if i'm playing a ROLEplaying game I'm not going to go totally changing the character for every boss, I want MY CHARACTER to beat that boss, not some le optimal build guide youtube premium like and subscribe special
>>745956730https://youtu.be/om6QZVMX9-M
Is cool that the secret Dungeon near Genessa is based on Dooms first map.
>>745961589Then go and run around them no one stops you idiot. But then you gonna piss your diaper for bosses being too difficult because you didn't upgrade your damage due to lack of experience gain. >>745961768I never claimed it's the hardest game. It just has some punishing designs, but retards want to take even those away and turn it into the Witcher.
>>745963292>jinhsi + shorekeeper>also wrong thread
>>745963253Have you tried not dying? Generally losing brings with it a punishment of either time or progress loss.
>>745963179You can only max out 3 shells in one playtrough. My recommendation is at least max out Proxima and then collect the rest and choose 2 others you would like to main. I already wrote a positive review about the game but complained about this, since I hate doing new game +
>>745963359you are brownggnore
>>745963025Its a mix of two things for him that make exploration a breeze. Getting heals back(that are tracked separate from lavender's heals in case you ever get severed) from kills and his charge punch that as far as I've experienced only two gate bosses are immune to the stagger/knockdown from it. Punch into attacks to regain resolve are kinda just the answer to every field enemy for him with the only issues being mixed heavy melee + ranged packs of enemies. My thing is I still get hit like a lot. My heals usually remain close to topped off but I think I'd be sweating a hell of a lot more if I had to rely on limited heals between beacons
>>745963546Post hand, Pisscord bot. But we both know you won't, so keep kvetching about being bad at video games.
>>745963559Yeah but you can also you shroom which give heals + in the end you will find more estus flasks or whatever they are called here. You also have Sariel that can get back life due to pain mechanic. There is also a tarstone that gives you leech per each kill which can max out your life pretty good, that one would prob be very good on Gragu.
>>745963253You do realize your character is an unfeeling alien shapeshifter that inhabits dead bodies and puppets them to his will?
>>745963772Yes and you get to choose how you do that
>>745963253fighting a boss where you die in one hit is retarded. It wouldn't even be going for an "optimal build" . You just switch between 2 obvious different playstyle shells
>>745962142>criticizing design flaws automatically make you DSPHow about cutting both of your legs so walking becomes harder, faggot?Every tedious retarded decisions by devs doesn't make the game harder. Runbacks are tedious, not hard. There is literally no enemies on the way back to the walmart lady boss, it's just a 2 mn walk that exists for no reason at all.
>>745956628this monolith boss is the actual biggest fucking bullshit I have ever fucking seen
>>745963931Runbacks are a punishment for failure.If the game wasn't difficult for you, why did you fail, Phil?
>>745963948I raise you bugged Sir Isaac still with his shield in the second phase.Anyway second phase Malborn Offspring is too fucking spastic for me
>>745963838first it was 2 hits, now it 1?lol lmao even
Runback are basically walk of shame, see it as a punishment.
>>745964081>it's Malborn Offspring decides to spam grabs and other red bullshit attacks all the time without stopping episode
I've fought a couple of big boy bosses now in a way too confined space . That's shit design. The usual troll type difficulty gets tiresome too . I think sariel just freezed at the end of the fight for 3-5 hits aswell.
>>745963987Dying is already the punishment for failure.God, people on this board are so fucking stupid. Elden ring solved runbacks a while ago and wasn't easier by doing it.
>exploring>lush green, dark brown, pale green, light brown, grey>OHHHH some white snow
My boy forsen is playing now and getting filtered.The game have been a success imo, so wait for new DLCs and MS3. I believe these devs can improve a lot and make it even better.
>>745963948he only has one bullshit pattern/phase and it's the laser disco spamyou can bait out his slab form for easy guards/parry and pray he doesn't do above
I'm certain all those niggers saying how runbacks are le good would be the first to piss their pants after suffering runback to Sir Alonne or Darklurker
>>745964248>Sir Alonne runbackfucking benchod bastard he should be renamed saar alonne
>>745964204>>745964248>Eldenbab thinks his casualized garbage is hardWe used to mock niggers like you who used savestates, kek.Never comment on difficulty or game design like you know anything ever again, underaged nigger
>>745962002If it autocompleted them for you then it would spoil that there are no more secrets like hidden walls etc. basically telling you that you found every item. This way the player can decide if they think they found everything or not. I don't even know why I bother explaining this to a lazy retard.
>>745964302We're talking about mortal shell 2. Are you gonna pretend mortal shell 2 is harder than elden ring you fucking retard? Also alonne is from dark souls 2, you dumb nigger.
>>745964248No? I just did them. I even completed horsefuck valley like a god. I bet you quit like a bitch.
>>745964335Secrets aren't part of "completing" the dungeon thougheverbeit
>>745964385You're the one who wants checkpoints outside every single boss room, underaged fag. Or did I have to elaborate on that too? Reading comprehension too tedious, rather than hard? If you can't play a game that doesn't have a fucking checkpoint every five minutes you're both underaged and a nigger, as I predicted.
>>745964448Sorry I didn't know you were the game director. I take back everything.
>>745964226>I believe these devs can improve a lot and make it even better.That would literally require starting over from scratch and going back to the drawing board.
>>745964496good boy
Is this game a spacehog?
>>745964607It's about 70GB. So typical Western shit
I think you guys are trying too hard with that "omg so fucking hardcore Souls player" larp.
>>745964110???????? yeah 1-2 hits bro . The whole shell thing . Do you even play the game?
>>745964509Thiel bros getting the D from nameless captive chad.That boss was annoying, but I figured out in the end that its better to back the fuck off when he does the whirlwind thing.
So do all the weapons basically the same damage, since they have no real stats? Why would I use anything but the super fast axe and dagger?
>>745964385It doesn't matter which game is harder only which game has better designs. Putting a respawn point next to every boss does not belong in a proper soulslike. ER did it to appeal to normies and it worked. Next you gonna defend the map showing npc locations.
>>745964509No MS3 will prob be even better. I liked this one as well.
>>745964725Veteran's axe spin2win is just that funny.
>>745964669>he thinks the people mocking whining faggots crying about runbacks and saying it's nothing are talking about Dark Soulskek, as predicted. Sorry I don't take someone who was born after the first 151 Pokemon seriously.
What's the best weapon for an Eredrim build?
>>745964725I went with flavor, i thought that axe and dagger was a weird combination i wouldn't get on another gameI wouldnt know if its better or worse than any other weapon other than the couple hours or so i played with the iconoclast
>>745964779You are trying too hard with this larp...
>>745964725because of different tearstones
>>745964769Better how?
>>745964725Everybody keeps saying the axe and dagger is fast but is it really that much faster then the first sword you get ? If it is, it certainly doesn't feel that much faster. Plus sword has more range .
>>745964836Sorry you didn't get to experience video games made before 2012, Anon. Legitimately.
>>745958183I keep hitting a bug where you are kicked out of a grab attack animation but your attacks stop registering damage.
>>745962002>Why won't the game autospawn me to the boss?>Why won't the game autocomplete me the map?>Why won't the game play itself for me?
>>745964894Man stop with this larp already...
>>745964883It's easily twice as fast.
>>745956628They need to tone down the magnetism with enemy attacks. You're basically forced to dodge every attack even if taking 2 steps to the left should realistically avoid it. Also can you not perfect guard rapid attacks or something?
>>745964948Elden Ring players unironically will ask these questions.Like I said, Prepare to Die Edition was where it all went to shit. The flood of normalniggers was inevitable.
>all those Soulsniggers pretending their games were ever hardkekGo back to me when you've beaten LASO.
>>745964992A weapon which commits you for 800ms to deal 2 hits is not twice as fast as a weapon which commits you for 800ms to deal 1 hit, it just deals more "hits"
>>745964843More variety in general with more enemies and friendly npcs. More weapons,tarstones and shells. A bigger world with more to do, like quests and unique items, maybe even add some PvP zones for lulz. I bet they could add some new shit we don't expect as well.
>>745964779Not the anon you are replying to, but I was born in '88. I've beaten Ninja Gaiden, Battletoads and TMNT, among others.I think runbacks are shitty design that serves no other purpose than to waste time, and that the fact that older games made you replay levels (or sometimes the entire game) in their entirety was a remnant of home entertainments roots in the arcades, where games were designed to extract money from people.
>>745965034Make sure you're tapping block rather than doing long presses. It fucked me up at first too before I got back into doing it out of habit.You have to treat this more like Sekiro, at least if you play with the Untarnished Seal.
>give up all your gloomthis room is evil fuck you
>>745965034>Also can you not perfect guard rapid attacks or something?Sir Isaac made me realize that this is indeed the case, at least with the regular blocking seal. Haven't tried with the parry seal.
why would anyone be playing this shit rn when the WARMOGS beta is live?
>>745965059>Prepare to Die Edition was where it all went to shit.Handfeed me
>>745965214I took a backup save lol, so you can open the room when you have least gloom first and then loot everything.
>>745965161>"I'm an oldfag and I think you're wrong!"Good for you. Doesn't change the fact Elden Sharty putting checkpoints every five feet isn't good design nor does it belong in any sort of challenging game.YOU DIE, YOU GO BACK.
>>745965256wtf is warmogs, you mean wardogs? Some tactical fps shooter, no thanks. I skipped the damn Hell Let Loose Vietnam also this time.
A quest with a happy ending on a "souls" game, i thought i would never see it
>>745965286You don't even have to do that. If you log out to the main menu and back it puts you back to the last beacon no items lost.
>>745965314You are sounding more and more desperate with each posts. Is your epeen size dependent on the runbacks you did or what?
intentionally tedious runbacks and xp loss on death are objectively bad game design and every game that continues to copycat these retardbrain mechanics is actively making it worse
>>745965364Yeah but all chests will be opened no? That the thing with that room it baits you to open all chests before so you can loose all gloom in the end to get out.
Do you come back to the starting area later in the game? Not the village with the cultists, but the parts after that when you first inhabit Harros' shell but before the first beacon?
You loose exp only if you die twice, so I think its fair. If you die a second time its basically your fault and you are a shitter. You can also use ranged weapon to retrieve your lost gloom in this game.
>>745965314>le challenging game>le epic runbacks>literally just sprinting past braindead enemies t. never played an actually difficult game with well-designed enemies or good level design runbacks don't make games more difficult
Is the first crossbow you find in the horrid poison dungeon any good? It says it has a lot less damage than the shotgun you start with, when I go to upgrade it.
>>745965314If you fail against a boss, it is the boss fight that you failed at, not the area that the boss is in. Making the player work through the area again when it is the boss they failed to defeat is non-sensical. There is no value to be had in that additional layer of punishment, the player does not learn anything and loses the only currency that matters, minutes of their life.
>>745965516It have more ammo if I remember, so you get more shots. Trebucheaxe was the best one for me.
>>745965516I have it fully upgraded, with a tarstone that allows me to fire all seven shots it has in it consecutively and another that makes those shots pierce through enemies, and I like it a lot.
I don't get why you all are still trying to honestly argue with this retard. He's obviously still stuck in his "me beat hard game me a GOD" phase.
>>745965510>>745965525It’s not meant to be super punishing, it’s meant to make you feel bad for being a scrub who’s trash at vidya.Unironically git gud, then you won’t have an issue running back retards.
>>745965268NTA but>be Soulsfag circa DeS and DkS>discussion in threads is informative, genuine, and high quality>since DeS wasn't crazy popular during its initial phase and DkS had just came out, fanbase was still relatively niche>no "you didn't beat the game" posts, no usual shitflinging, people even congratulating others for finding different tactics to beat bosses like being able to shoot Maneaters outside their boss arenas>life good, threads good, games are appreciated>PC players see the fun others are having and want in>they write up a well-intentioned petition to get the game ported, it actually does gangbusters and gets Bamco's attention>game gets re-released and repackaged to include all the DLCs and on PC>calls itself Prepare to Die Edition, this is coupled with Bamco first beginning their meme tier "ARE YOU HARDCORE ENOUGH TO BEAT THIS GAME" marketing strat>the same shit that people would later mock DS2 for>game becomes far more visible, gets more traction outside of its niche circles, VaatiVidya goes from a shitposter to being normiecore with his videos getting exposure to a wider audience overnight>discussion quality immediately plummets, the start of "git gud" and other tedious obnoxious shitposting>fast forward to Anno Domini 2026>you didn't beat the game because you did X thing, but also other games suck if they don't hand you bonfires and respawn points outside of every marginally challenging areaHope this was informative
I am considering upgrading to the devout edition for the obsidian skins just because lazlo is kinda distracting
>actually game making you unequip all equipment on death is an amazing idea that doesn't waste your time but punishes you for being le badTruly the greatest minds of /v/
>>745965736>Git gud!>But we'll make sure that gitting gud will waste your time by making you play through sections that have nothing to do with what you need to git gud atVerily, a genius plan
I FUCKING LOVE WHEN THE SECOND ATTACK IN THE FLURRY DECIDES TO RANDOMLY MISS YOU SO YOU WASTE YOUR HARDEN AND GET RAPED BY THE THIRD ATTACKGOD HARDEN SUCKS SO FUCKING MUCH IN LATE GAME MY FUCKING GOD I SWEAR I WILL RAPE THE STUPID FUCKING SLAVGROID WHO CAME UP WITH IT
>>745965861You can unlock free skins also and you can see how they look, its in the room at the base with the elevator. Check all those strongboxes.
>>745965516I like it better than the default gun since I want the option to pick off enemies at a distance. Also the tarstone that makes enemies explode when killed with it is cool.
>>745956628I'm not a fan of the constant teleporting to dungeons, cleansing the beacons and whatnot. Kills my immersion of the world around me.
What is the point of the game?You're just going around collecting some old cunt's eggsThere's literally no story or motivation or anythingLess of a story than Crimson Desert like nigger wut
>>745966212A lot of the interconnected lore is buried in the shell memories and Ruk's dialogue.After all, you have to remember that (You) are just an ayy lmao flesh doll wearing the corpses of people. And that fact in itself has a part to play in the story.
> gameranx : FINALLY something differentmeanwhile it's the 50th soulslike in 5 years with minor modifcations
>>745966212The story in MS2 is quite literally:>foid good, men badProbably the most feminist jew garbage since TLOU2.
Beat the final bossfew questions before I end the gamedo I keep the uncapped upgrade level thing for the tarforge and the tarforge upgrades into new game +what else should I do before going to NG+
>>745957940>>745957880>>745957828>>745957764>We were in a hippie cult>aw thats ni->They are killing animals and forcing people to be sacrifices.And there it is.
>>745966439You basically keep everything, but before you do new game+ Check so you didnt miss all night secrets and secret dungeon near genessa
>>745961981i hate that one so fucking much.i accidentally triggered the one that sends you to the citadel like 3 times because the teleport is in a narrow, empty rampart you want to sprint on, and sprint=interact
>>745966414Sounds like they were accurate with their H.R. Giger inspirations at least in that case. He was well known for his "feminist" art.
>>745966212still more story than dark souls
>>745966567>dark soulsalso a bad game
>>745966497That one was the one that prompted me to post about it but it has happened before sending me to small cells in dungeons and shit
>>745966024Oh I'm aware of the free skins/blackmarrow key skins but lazlo's skin doesn't look like it changes his skin color. With how much skin he exposes the grey ashlike obsidian skin might make him less of a visual hazard to me
were people complaining much about lost child pre-patch?i just beat it (still on the day 1 patch) and he honestly wasn't that bad. his attacks were super easy to dodge and he had gigantic openings between attacks.that being said, i was level 14? with +8 weapon because i explored a lot.not sure if people were going there at like level 5
So are all of the fucked up creatures in the game, aside from the ayys of course, a result of Sariel's experimentation?If so, boy howdy did he fuck up
>offering chest bugged out and i can't open it in bdsm nun zonefuck it, next playthrough then
>>745965516having tried both, i prefer the crossbow. for reference i get 7 bolts vs 3 shotgun shots.but the shotgun quite frequently misses pellets or range fucks it over.crossbow is reliable for finishing people off, or picking very weak enemies like the flying bats or exploding babies
>>745966695Shitters got shitted on because some of them decided to go to him first rather than the Wheelchair bitch. So they put out a token balance patch that nerfed his health and damage slightly, like 10-15%.
>>745966950Just quit out to the menu. Same shit happened to me
>>745967001doesn't help, chest needs 2 offerings while all the candles are lit
>>745966695i went to his gate before doing mushroom gate so it was the opposite for meI was level 6 on a +3 weapon (i had mats to +5 but im retarded and forgot)took like 10 tries and his hp felt a bit bloated, but that might have been mitigated had i upgraded my weaponI think he was fine, the quick sliding punch in p2 might hit a bit too hard for how quick it was but other than that the rest of his moves were okI then faced magdalena some hours later with a +10 weapon and level 15 and one shot her facetanking 90% of her attacks
Picrel map style (mortal shell 1) or Elden ring map style (mortal shell 2)Whats your take anon?I think i prefer more concise smaller interconnected maps than this vast emptinessThe map on MS2 was TOO simple but im tired of walking here "exploring" to find absolutely nothing
>>745966695i bet lot of people fought him too early and blame the game for being unprepared, just like Margit
>>745965158>more friendly npcs, bigger world, PvP zonesSounds terrible.
>>745967053>>745967001>>745966950that bug happened to me in the mushroom villagenever could open it
>>745967318That's exactly what happenedThe Mushroom Village gate is literally five feet away from the place you spawn in but some people really insist on doing things the hard wayThere's a huge number of Soulslike players who complain about shit being difficult but simultaneously refuse to take the hint and go "Hm, maybe I should come back later, I'm not ready for this yet"
You know what?Im gonna watch a speedrun of the first game, to remind me of the bosses, just out of curiosity since i dont remember shitPick all bosses, pick glitchless>No runsI dont think i have ever seen this before in a souls like gameWell unrestricted it is
im embracing my inner gragu on ng+ and bully babushkas
>>745967664Do you recommend waiting until NG+ to enable Night Mode?I tried it briefly but doubling enemy HP wasn't very interesting to me on a first playthrough. What am I missing by not enabling it?
>>745956628>mod that removes the seal from your back crashes the gamethere a workaround or something? I just want a full view of proxima's ass as I play
>>745967561There's the ice skating knight, enslaved grisha in the ice map, the fire giant in the lava map, doppleganger boss, the two headed guy in the lego map and the giant crow final boss iirc
>>745967561i won't forget the captive who's balls you destroy anytime soon
>>745956628Wtf mortal shell looks like that?
>>745967838That's modded. Harbinger looks like this.
>>745967875>posting the shopped version without ballsPost the REAL Harbinger.
>>745967732in night mode just do the three secret areas, you barely need to fight there.There is a secret shop there is no npcs I think it was at beacon called Abandoned Post or somethingSecret Dungeon near mushroom village, where there is many babushkas dancing not near houses but after some bridge you see many near a bonfire if i remember right.,Secret delivery to get an item for last boss.
>>745959059>sometimes there are massive areas between themBasically the whole NE corner of the map needs a node.
>>745968090So just save Night Mode for NG+ mostly? Gotcha.
>>745967997Its called a penile sheath.
>>745968169No then you will miss out them again? Why would you want to miss out on items, you can do them again in ng+ and there is barely any fighting. So you will miss out on glimpse materials and keys for skins
>>745968289Right, so get the items and then just turn it back off until NG+
Finally got the platinum. Now what?
>>745968412ofc you can check video for the night shopper there is not even any npcs there and for dungeon its just babushkas + you can run past them to dungeon. Inside dungeon its just a puzzle no fight.
>>745966212MS1>ayy eggs descend onto planet>people worship the hatchlings as gods, form cults>you're one of them you go around seizing the strongest of them, offer it to a guy who is like you who betrays you, kill him, eat his innards and ascend into godhoodMS2>MS1 protag's ascension singaled the mother of the ayy eggs >she descends onto the planet>but she was infected with some cosmic parasite>gives prosperity and peace etc to humanity for a time until the parasite's corruption spreadsending spoiler>you collect her remaining eggs, cleanse her corruption, and kill the parasite before sending the eggs into space presumaly to go seed other planets like MS1 wasbasically lovecraftian ayyy lmao bullshit
>>745965353This quest made me so happy. Did you go back and play the lute for them?
>>745968779nope, heading there right now anon
>>745967309I like MS2's map a lot but it could do with way less of those fog wall dungeonstoo many of them, most of them just give random bullshit like upgrade materials
>>745968412yeah i forgot that you will find glimpses during night on same places where you found shells. I only bothered with two of them before i proceeded to NG+
Are the bonfires stupidly well hidden or is there just that few of them? It seems like not every zone even has a single bonfire.The corpseruns are ridiculous you have to cross like 1/4 of the map if you die once at the end of a dungeon
>>745967664Is Gragu just for farming/exploring? Seems like a massive hassle to have to farm up hearts between boss attempts.
>>745969482There aren't that many of them because the map is very small, you will see on NG+, you can run around the whole map in like 1 hour easily, but it's very well hidden from the player so it seems big.
>>745959426The corpseruns are longer than like 3 levels in an NES game
>>745969656Well he have some skill that let you hit insane amount without hearts I think, so maybe its doable with no hearts and 2 mushrooms?
>>745968890It's nothing crazy, but it was cute.
Tiel's ability is so ass like holy shit, wherever you do the stab he just stands there trapped in the animation for like 3 seconds all while the enemy can attack you fine while not being staggered at all by it. It needs a patch.
Can I get a quick rundown on this game?
>>745970116suck to target souls
Yeah no the final boss is abysmal dogshit. Firing up CT for this one.
>>745970261He has like 3 moves and you can just rape him with grishas
Permanent infusions stones so nutty Proxima getting the double damage and AoE with lightning from her passive makes her go absolutely ape with the lightning stoneAre any of the other shells like that? That they boost a specific ailment to that degree?
>>745970261How?This game is obscenely easy to break.
>>745970336lighting sucks dickit does 1 damage per tickbosses have 10000 healthyou are better off using infusion that inflicts bloodcurse
>>745969632he is arguably the best bossing character because of his huge percent bonus to enemies he hasn't killed yet current speedrun routes are using him but desu I think people are sleeping on genessa
>>745970261tfw I assraped him as tiel
Sariel's attack negation seems super broken
>>745970336Stasis is best on Proxima, with biosampler bosses get permaslowed so you're free to wail on them
>>745970905There's a stasis stone??
>>745970329>>745970449>>745970760I mean it's not about the difficulty, though I died like a retard, it was just a boring and completely not fun fight. He does nothing, is way too big so camera starts fucking around when you're near him, only threatening attack is the grab and he constantly jumps in place. I just didn't want to bother engaging with it.
>>745971187yep it's a shitty fight to end on
>>745961981The coin bag on the bridge makes you appear in a cell in the fortress of penance, on the other side of the map. The joke being you stole it and got arrested, I think. There are a few things like that in the game.>shoulders like a fortress>neck like a prize bull>[illegible] like mill [bag, bing?]>Last seen breaking a man's jaw near the tavern>please tell her Perry [Petry?]>thinks she is fairer than spring
Forsen cant seem to beat Hexapod with Tiel. Hexapod wasnt that hard imo. Anyone who beat him with Tiel here how many tries? Dude have died so many times now that it feels like he is fighting Malenia
>>745972149Who the fuck is Forsen? I haven't seen that character in the game, and why would it be fighting the Hexapod?
>>745972249A Swedish Streamer, I am playing a shit game now and watching him fight hexapod. A tale Plague Resonance is so fucking bad don't even play .
>>745972149>Anyone who beat him with Tiel here how many tries?like 2 or 3 triesvery easy boss
>>745970905you already build stasis with your biosampler, no need to stack it further. bleed is the way to go
Post your main Shell and Weapon. Pic Related is mine just replace the Sword with the Axe.
>>745969792Yeah it was, ty anon i probably wouldnt have thought of it myself.
>>745972730Same but I still use the Martyr's Blade or Iconoclast if I need something a bit faster. I know they're not S tier (read: blatantly overpowered) but I like playing as just a heavily armored dude with a big fuckin' sword.
>>745972731Hell yeah, I thought of it like 2 hours after the quest since Gorf loved singing so much. Glad you enjoyed that quest too anon.
I dont want to sound like a liberal cuck but the whole area i skillfully circled in red with my elite painting skills could use maybe an extra beacon>>745971659Arms like mill bags maybe?The other posters in the board are all pretty funny but i thought that one made for a cool shitpost pic
>>745972389Damn he is literally stuck there now. I think tiel is a weak shell when it comes to tanking but he have help of invis and should do decent damage + his tiel is fully unlocked.
>>745966414>mortal shell 3: Ejactulus Dominus Yeah, I get that its very, very hinging on the idea that eldritch space god falls down, her corpse gets worshipped forming into a catholic Christian religion, the 'madness' happens and causes everyone to go nuts or basically cause a medieval schism of the religion with each pope/anti-pope becoming a bloated eldritch monster as they horde the alien eggs, an obvious metaphor for building their power bases by pushing religious radicalization.The shell stories show I imagine the sub cults besides the bloated egg thieves and how they are also absolutely insane about how these sub groups venerate abuse, open faced genocide crusades as power grabs, or straight up Unga bunga cannibalism.It shows that... I forgot my point.
>>745972410>Tanks through the red attacks that instantly threw me out of my shell as Gragu>Not only tanking through them, but taking less than a quarter of health in damage when it does connectFucking Proxima, dude. You genuinely didn't beat the game if you used her.
>>745973142the whirlpool weapon ability gave the boss 14 weakness stacks which is why he hits so low afterwards
Anons who beat the game, what do you think about it?I'd say it's really a 9/10 game with some very cancerous shit that puts it down to about 8 (the endgame area, limited glimpses, exploration too hard in the beginning).
So is the unfound path the final dungeon? I unlocked it just as I was about to start the final gate left on my list so IDK if thats intended or not. On a different note, I feel like I've just been breezing through the game with all the gate bosses going down in one try. I can't tell if I've somehow over-levelled or gragu is one hell of a crutch because man that doesn't feel right compared to what I've been hearing everywhere else
>>745973031tiel doesn't shine until you're like level 30 with 20+ shell pointsby that point you literally one shot all monsters in the game and bosses can die under a single break
>>745973595Weakness isn't that strong. She definitely benefited from her passive for that hit also.
Are there any good passive items that I should keep my eyes open for? I don't like the grisha phantoms. I'm gonna sound like a zoomer, but they fuck with my flow state when they spawn and come barreling into a battle and knock everything over. But the other items seem like they're just "10% fuckall"
>>745972997Maybe arsenal like mill bags? That probably is the popular opinion of her.As an aside, does the merchant guy have gigantism or something? He was about her height in the flashbacks but compared to 'Lavender' inhabiting Proxima he is several feet taller. Is he taking Dark Soul important nobility growth hormones or something? Is he eating dozer buildings?
>>745973670It is and it unlocks when you've found x amount of ovaFinish the last gateway before you go down, not that you get locked out but still
>>745974026Cool and yeah thats the plan. Kinda fucks with the narrative flow though since I just murdered my boy milos before backtracking to the beacon and porting back to the final gate.
So whats the consensus?6/10 for me, just a lord of fallen tier souls clone with nothing unique, it has 1/10 from shit story and primitive combat so it feels like less than similar gamesi dont get the point of shells, if you only get resources to use one, the first one you find so why bother?
>>745956628Sadly it's way too close to dark souls. They need to add something new to the formula.
>>745970452I'm pretty sure lighting also does AoE explosion at certain thresholds when applied Just try speccing into the passive that applies 10 lighting when grafted armour procs to see what lighting does - moderate amount of damage and sends the enemy staggering When hitting rapidly with the lightning infusion weapon, I'm pretty sure these explosion are proccing every other second Monster that are vulnerable to stagger gets super fucked upespecially when combined with biosampler that applies additional lightning
>>745970905That reminds me>lost child boss>struggling>go back and purge the way points in the zone>discover a tar stone for the trebuchete that makes the projection spin in place>literally kills the boss in three seconds>Didn't even realize it did it it until noticing it the blade tornado still hitting the ragdolling giant baby body with a constant WHRRRRRR sound>just beat the card boss prior by making out proximal range mitigation perks until it was reflecting damage.Giant Muppet looking ass... This game really does encourage cheating a but to beat bosses. I think anons call it Cheese and Squeese?
>>745974358I liked it, Warframe but medieval is a pretty cool premise and better than DE's attempt to do the same with Soulframe so far.I wouldn't put it on the same level as more polished Soulslikes but I thoroughly enjoyed it despite the flaws. 8/10 but I also am a massive Soulfaggot in general with a high tolerance for some of the bullshit.
>>745959231METHERRRR …
Same i rate it 8/10 and I love soulsloppa.
>>745974491i would like a souls clone when story, world building, npcs and side quest arent incoherent edgy crapstill its not as bad as elden ring where entire map is an amusemnt park where all citizen attack you on sight except of handful quest givers
>>745974704Lies of P
>>745974704Hims need to twok to wideo gwame peepul … hims wonewy
>>7459736307/10on the same level as wuchang and lotf but I enjoyed both of those games more than this oneI think it's because I favor build variety a lot which MS2 really lacks
>>745974358>>745974491They need to make a proper action game in the setting of MS instead of copypasting Fromsoft at every turn, but plenty of retards with shit taste consoom the slop so they'll continue regurgitating whatever Miyazaki does just like TN at this point because trendchasing and producing mediocre soulslop will sell regardless of its quality.
>>745974704I'm almost certain these companies dont have the capacity to write real stories though, which is why making souls clones is so thankful.
>>745974905cool blog post, anon
>>745974786played it, also is just a weird grimdark world with zombies and robot zombieshell, i finished it recently and i have 0 idea what it was aboutand then it ends with a marvel avengers cinematic universe post cameo? What the fuck
>>7459743587-8/10 for me. I like the different character abilities and the Geiger stuff. I like the hub world to micro dungeons structure and how they mix up what the micro dungeons do.I dont like how shallow things are, in a word. You dont control how you level up you just do it. Perks for shells are always boiled down to two things they do and how strong you want them to do those two things, with the third being a damage reduction passive. There is no inventory, its a badge system that only looks like an inventory. Im used to Nioh where you can have a ton of items you can use to help, here you are screwed and most items only help in stopping a specific condition. So the majority of the time you will be carrying the red mushroom or common moonshine because health and damage reduction is the most universal.
>>745974920i mean it could be worse, but also you play something like expedition 33 and cant think that those games just dont care about creating interesting worlds and storiesi often feel like like all those games are set in the same exact setting
>>745974905>look ma I did it again! I posted it again!
>>745975272it's an AA game bro, they didn't want to overcomplicate the systems. I'm actually glad they didn't. I wish we had more games like that.
>>745956628I'm going thief. How hard am I fucking myself?
>>745975372The fuck are you on about retard?
>>745972997Seriously, there are three dungeons in it. Its like they have a thing about their snail enemy.
>>745975514>shit people are noticing me shitting up the thread again what do I do?>just play dumb, that'll do it
I played an hour of so of the demo and I dont know how to feel about it. It's not bad, but im not very convinced. Maybe it's just not for me. I'll try to finish it later ig
>>745956628>FOV increase>no gloom loss on deathThis is the mod I need
>>745975724>no criticism allowed, just consoom productSo you monitor these threads 24/7 and assume everyone is the same boogieman, apply for the tranny janny position next time faggot.
What were they thinking making the tarstones only work for like 1-2 weapons eachYou do all this exploration with multiple level-long corpseruns and then your reward is tarstones for a weapon you don't even have and you want to punch your computer monitor
How tf does leech work?
I really liked AI Limit (anime DS), game hit super well with the balancing for me. Proper fucking hard for oldman me, but felt fair numbers-vise - just peak level of challenging for me personally game doesn't really have any cheese (I think), so plays mostly as a basic melee weapons and dodge+parry character. And a few minor tricksDifficulty in Mortal Shell 2, is a bit of a messFound it way too hard at the start when my character was weak and basic, if I tried to fight outside the starting areas (which is probably intentional, right? Because you get a LOT stronger when you upgrade your stuff) But that is kinda the problem, when I upgraded my character it got too easyand half the things you do feel really cheesy and broken overpowered, and I don't mean obviously unintentional buggy stuff, just using upgraded shell abilities or weapons with infusionsthings die so fast But if I try to use a less superpowered shell and bad weapons - the game is right back to being too hard, enemies feeling overly tanky and doing way too much damage between checkpoints versus the amount of sustain I got, if we end up trading blows - which happens when I'm not exploding stuff to death
>>745975510kinda weak early but by far the strongest for the later parts of the game along with proxima
>>745969946PROXIMA PLEASE
>>745975510Not at all, you're legit picking one of the "meta" Frames--I mean Shells.
>>745976127Take your meds wannabe tranny janny, your mental illness is showing.
>>745975446Yes, I like the game but I would like slightly more complicated systems. You dont have any real sustainability until you max out there'd mushrooms or pick up grogu. Until that point you are holding your breath between rest points.
>>745976113Not like you would assume, it extends your HP bar with each staxk
>>745976424true, they should have added some way to replenish healing items, maybe a system where enemies can drop potions based on how many you have?
>>745976089Ahhh, but the real reward actually is the truckloads of junk tarstonesgetting to level them up for tarcores to upgrade the ones you actually are using which is a ridiculusly shit system, btwbecause if I'm understand this right, it will just permanently fuck you over from kitting out the different weapons if you spend them poorly there being an absolute hard limit to the number you can get Which is probably fine if you don't use the ranged weapons much. But is such an unnecessary bottle neck if you try give the guns a proper try
>>745976132>no cheeseAny dual wield weapon + piercing claw is borderline cheese. Railgun EX, but it got nerfed.Anyway you're right about balancing in MS2 being really fucking weird. There is no reason for Mammon mobs to be dealing SO MUCH damage compared to Fainweald shitters. Shells are a whole other can of worms and honestly the fact that stuff like Proxima, Smert or Tiel exist in the same game as Eredrim or Ganessa is just ugh. Though I guess Ganessa COULD be absolutely broken with a proper weapon that really benefits the clones, but playing her just feels miserable. Especially since you can't return to your Shell after getting yeeted out of it.
How’s the enemy variety in this game? How does it compare to the enemy variety in elden ring?
>>745976424>holding your breath between rest pointsKinda digged this tense early/mid part of the gameWhen I was unsure where to go, and there was a real attrition battle against the scrub enemies Then it turned into more hack and slash gameplay later when I had a surplus of healing, and just way stronger
Started upgrading Tiel and naturally had to use axe and dagger, but now I'm thinking I should try something with more damage to maximize on the extra damage and crit from the shadow step and perfect dodge bonusesWhich weapons have the best damage? I have the battle axe so going to try that, then probably going to search for the hammers
am I alone in thinking the infinite seal is bad?it gives more break damage but has a hard time dealing with multi-hitsthe regular block to parry seems way better, especially with its more lenient timing
>>745977081Axe and dagger.
>>745965525I'll simply define the entire area and boss as a single challenge and tell you to do better. What's the problem, not enough Estus? We gave you twelve retard
>>745977081nothing beats axtana and axe+dagger with duality stone at damage outputif you really want to minmax axe+dagger with duality stone and perma bloodcurse breaks the gamelots of shit that requires multiple applications are dumb with fast multi hit stuff
>elden ring needed 100 balance patches>lotf 2 needed 100 balance patches>this will get 100 balance patcheswhy can't these fags just like make a game? these games aren't even skill based it's all just levels and gear.
>>745977264Both infinite seal and harden get basically neutered against multi-hits. It was impossible for me to get through Sir Isaac's second phase until I switched to the perfect guard one.
>>745977264Kek, I've been playing the entire game with Hardenforgot I could switch those around
which gate is easier? wheelchair person or the sanguine cave person?im still kinda exploring but just kinda gettin the beacon up to these and leaving.i know i have some bullshit poison swamp to do
>>745977525final boss of walmart is easier
>>745977525just play dark souls 3 if you hate exploration so much
>>745977603i said im still exploring though? are you a bot?
>>745977643For some reason Mortal Shell threads are infested by like two retards butthurt about Dark Souls getting "casualized".
>>745977412I can't speak for harden since I don't use it, but I think infinite would have been better if a successful parry allowed you to parry again immediately.it would still curb spamming due to its tight window.or at least made you damage immune if you parried>>745977465I should try harden, at least. I didn't play the first game so I was put off by it desu
>>745977776>successful parry allowed you to parry again immediately.Harden has basically the same problem but combined with a cooldown if you don't hit a perfect harden. In theory you should be able to just hold it through some of the flurries, but then you get hit with a cooldown and no break damage done. Now to be fair harden is really fucking good for like 90% of the game, especially in ganks and when using slower weapons, but it falls off dramatically at the end.
i prefer using harden because i like being able to use it during the middle of an animationi dunno if you can use the parry/perfect guard ones like that
>>745977525wheelchair person and gate seems to be widely agreed upon to be easier
>>745978010the regular parry/block one can't animation cancel, the one that has more risk (fewer parry frames i assume) for more break dmg (i cant remember its name) HAS animation cancel
>>745977935that sucks. I'll still try harden just to experience it, though.change things up from what I usually use
>>745978010not perfectly parry has the best stun application but longest cooldown and shortest window making multi hits hardperfect block has no cooldown and can block like normal harden can be used with any other action but has a long cooldown if you miss the perfect timing but you can just keep swinging
>>745978218To be fair there is a chance that I had a massive skill issue since I blitzed through Infinite Gate and the last part of the game in one, rather lengthy sitting and I never had so many issues with harden before it. So there is a chance it was just due to me being tired, but honestly I kinda doubt it.
just unlocked that shit that allows me to cleanse the brambles but i dont know how far back i can go and check the areas.is there anything to cleanse before gettin to the keep/hub?
It seems i might have zig when i should have zagI just reached the third gate and i see the Ruk map icon but i didnt come across a road to reach where he appears on the way to the gate.Im gonna try to find it before i clear this gate
>>745977356i mean like single hit damage to maximise the bonuses from crits and shadow step the game needs damage numbers
>>745978462so turn damage numbers on in the options?
Beat the game. Played as Eredrim and used spear and infinite seal, barely used ranged weapons. Some of the later bosses and mobs were pretty ridiculous in how fast they dish out attacks and they were hard to react to and parry for an old man like me. Will do NG+ once they fix Genessa bugs.>>745977776>infinite would have been better if a successful parry allowed you to parry again immediatelyI used it for like 70% of the game and I was under the impression it does though, I distinctly remember parrying the monolith's 2 hit swinging ball attack that comes at you super fast both hits, plus the double axe guy that hits you like multiple times in a row alternating between axes. Not sure about prince though even though I fought him with infinite seal since some of his second phase sword hits have so many hits and I'm sure I wasn't able to parry them all and successful parry doesn't have a distinct tell animation like perfect block.
>>745978491kek you're jokingi meant the weapons need stats but damage numbers will do
>>745978516>under the impression it doesmaybe it's my own skill issue, thenI'm not too far through, so I have time to try everything.it's hard for me to pay attention to how effective the parrying is when I'm focusing on just parrying to begin with desu
>>745974358Definite improvement from the first game in most aspects, but holy shit, they NEED to either get rid of or rework the upgrade system. The build variety would be amazing if all the major upgrades werent locked behind an extremely finite resource for shells and stones, and then they went and fucking nerfed the gloom and gold grinding stones to. The upgrades should have been global or something at the very least, like upgrading your stones/weapons/shells upgrades all the other ones as well. Aside from that, ive enjoyed everything else.
>>745978462unless you abuse the crit stone bug you really only use shadowstrike to destroy regular monsters. For bosses it's to easily get behind them and make them whiff combos
>>745976831NTA, but that's how I feel looking at some of this stuff and hearing about some of the builds that have creeped into my youtube feed. There's aspects of game balance that just jump the shark. Like the infusions.>4 attacks>8 attacks at level 2>ehhh, let's just make it infinite LMAO!It's like there is way more shit than just the slayer seal that puts the game into gaming journalist mode where you didn't really beat the game. They also didn't really seem to put much thought into balancing the heavy weapons vs the light weapons.
out of their fucking mind with a lot of the tracking on these leap attacks
>enemies have magnet attacks>you have magnet attacksUmm kino?
>>745979564It's called magnetism and yes it sucks.
>>745956628Artificially inflated popularity game of August 2026.
Thoughts on a possible expansion/DLC?
>>745979564>>745979674>>745979702>Tiche has a skill that gives him a ton of damage from hitting enemies in the back>99% of all enemies track you constantly and you can almost never reach their backThey shouldve made it increase the attack damage out of the shadow step dodge, at least its usefull then.
>>745979825>three empty spots in the blackmarrow chests areaLikely
>>745979862No clue what you're doing but monsters randomly hit air for me, 9 out of 10 times I land shadow strike in the back and that includes bosses
>the red bitches in sisters refuge>they parry your shit>instantly start blasting your asshole open with very rapid attacksAAAAAYyyYyYYyEEEEEEEE
>>745980001You can harden through it
>>745978378means full freedom at that point
>>745980063I'm using Proxima.I thought about using Genessa but I've no clue how to build herI've got the phantom infusion, but I don't have enough Glimpses after maxing out ProximaI also heard her summons can fuck up just like the Grisha's that sometimes spawn in the ground
>>745978806Tarcores are so bad, that system made me equip stuff I didn't want to use just so I can get more of them.
>>745979956Even in the dodge form of shadow step? They dont track me in the power form, but they seem to know where I am in the dodge variant of it.
They WILL patch the infinite grisha remnants, right?
>>745980253Where do you get them?
>>745980324Dungeon below Marrow Keep, there's a respawning grisha there
>>745980253They should patch the shitty suck to target.
>>745980231No clue about the dodge form since I barely use/proc itI simply abuse stealth and the free crit afterwards
>>745980210Genessa kinda sucks. Her best build is going for the clones you get after getting thrown out of the Shell and pairing it with axetana or axe and dagger. Though it makes her fragile AS FUCK
>>745980210I tested her a bit and her clones sometimes get stuck on terrain and do nothing, can run random places, but still kinda feel strong. Also don't even think about playing her Stray version because the passive that lets her clones protect her from death is bugged and doesn't work most of the time so you will get one shot by most things since the Stray has so little HP.
>get to random bar in the middle of nowhere>get guitar>pick up random shit near a fortification>get put in jailthis game is growing on me
>>745980253The dungeon? probably not, I assume its an intended farm zone, but the exploit version, probably. Or theyll at least put a cap on the summon chance.
>>745980253they're fine
>>745980536>>745980546Yeah she seems very glass cannon if her clones/Stray version actually worked properly.I think she'd work well with Phantom infusion on the polearm(Black needle?)
>>745980609>play lute for frogs>they dance
how deep is the beacon for this fuck ass keep jail town i am innocent nigga i didn't do SHIT
>>745980703If her Stray version worked properly it'd be very fun even if she is glass cannon, Stray has max 2 clones that protect you from death and it has a summoning animation for the clones but she doesn't take any damage during the animation. Hoping for a bug fix patch soon. I know there is a mod in Nexus mods that supposedly fixes the passive but I haven't tested it.
Dog how turbo-fucked up is this final boss supposed to be that they offer me 2 summons for him?
People keep saying Grisha this Grisha that, but have they seen Tarred Fragment?
>>745981168It's just badly made. Seriously.
>>745981168He was kinda easy for me, I thought he only really has one dangerous attack and you just gotta watch out for his debuff. Also some of his attacks seemed kinda buggy and do nothing.
>>745965815"You didn't beat the game" mindfucked you people for life.
>>745966695I took 2 tries during advanced access. On the first attempt he launched me 50 feet into the air.I felt like he was easy as fuck. I wasn't some retard who bumrushed the gates though.
>>745980225wouldnt be so bad except half the tarstones only work on half the equipment and the other half of them are irredeemably bad. 6% more gloom at max rank, seriously?
>>745979862>TicheYou mean Tiel, not a female summon from Elden Ring. Retard.
Each time I find a tarstone for your sidearm I get disappointed.
>>745980210If you're using Proxima, those parries shouldn't be an issue at all. Get the lightning retaliation so you can knock them out of the combo.
>>745982474My brain, though its a fun coincidence their names are so close.
Decima's doubles seem busted OP as hell. Completely shat on the hexapod.
>>745981462>>745981485Alright well dinoblade is more manageable than I thought should normally be a cakewalk except I can't figure out his gimmick. What the hell is shunting me out of my shell and stripping me of all my gear and leaving me with just the shit version of the GS in phase 2 ?
open world shit got me FUCKED up i dont know what to do first thats optimal
seriously the magnetism/tracking and aggro range on some of these enemies is actually fuckin stupid especially
>>745982786It's the debuff, once you reach a full bar you get transformed. It's from his attacks that have firey effects. There's a secret item that helps you mitigate it.
>>745978806yeah, i didnt finish the game, but i unlocked liek 40% of map and i have upgraded shit outside of my main build since i didnt have rosourcesim starting to think thats gonna be the case till the end
>>745982789go right and then go north, figure it out from there you indecisive maroon.
>>745982972Can I just stall until the debuff runs out or do I need to detour for that item? Because if so thats messed up that they made the final boss a gimmick fight
>>745982786Do the mushroom village, I got assraped trying to do other areas prepatch.
>>745983005well theres clearly optimal routes here and being indecisive is the issue with the games unclear direction. sadly we cannot get this right with souls games
>>745960349How can it be off-model if it's in the game though?
>>745983125not that anon but I did the fight without the item and without getting the debuff
>>745983125You can stall but second phase you are constantly burning from a fire dot. Or you can just not get hit by his fire.
>>745983180NTA but its a mod. Harbinger is a male.
>>745983229>>745983192Fair unfortunately I've been playing the game willing to trade hits so I might to recondition myself or make the detour. I've gotten him close to death a few times before I get snagged by the debuff so maybe I just need to clean up my play
>>745983361The item is called Seedbearer's Scripture if you need it.
>>745958825it's nuts it didn't ship with one but they'll make it now, if they're not already making it. Don't think they anticipated such a warm reception/so much attention desu.
>nameless captivethis nigga's pretty fuckin gay huh
dunno why they went the kingdoms of amular direction with the world design
>>745983651surprisingly vicious for a dead guy.
>>745983275Well, not in my game
grisha's got the most just, ridiculous tracking magnetism command grab like probably the epitome of the games issues in one enemy
>>745983930>Proxima already has nice thighs>WE MUST GO FURTHERWhy? Why not give her thick thighs without going overboard into cartoonish proportions.
>>745983651
what's a good early game weapon? so far I only have Iconoclast and Axe/Dagger.
does tiels "shadow stalk" do anything? the ability that adds more damage the longer your in shadow? I cant tell if it wants me to attack sooner with more shadow stacks, or wait longer in stealth to deal more damage. It dosent have an indicator or buff symbol that I can see
>>745978516>>745978725tested again: you're right. you CAN parry again if you with infinite seal or a perfect hardenI was just fucking up the timing and thinking it wasn't the caseso it was a skill issue on my part
>>745977525Id say Walmart lady. Cave person is harder if anything because the card golem just before it that lobster the exploding balls like a spaz
>>745983930personally, those tits on the base female model is ideal
>>745979825More cannibalism!
Grisha bros he is right
>>745979825Out of body babymaking sex with Proxima.
>>745980890I think frogs are the dominant species of the planet. There are so many frogs the cultists tie them to sticks and use them as weapons.
>>745984421Because I like it
>>745984421Because some coomers don't have a sense of beauty and design. I say this as a coomer myself.
>>745985279no, he's not right. there's lots of overpowered stuff in MS2, and nerfing the grishas alone smacks of 'i don't personally approve of this.'
Proxima mains here?
>>745979825Probably going to get Harros back at the very least, he has a skill and animations so I doubt they'd just toss him aside. Solomon and Hadern are much more up in the air. I can certainly see them adding a roguelite mode like with MS1, I think the chaos dungeon is meant to be a little tease of that. Though if we do get Solomon and Hadern, im curious what their powers will be. Harros seems to have a hardening based skillset since his main ability is a big petrification aoe. Solomon was based around resolve in MS1 and Hadern was based around his skills being taken from other shells.
these runbacks are fuckin dogshit
>>745985279shouldnt be % based cuz its so strong and favors fast hitting wepsthey should just remove this thing from the game
>Suddenly realize Ive been doing the summons>Everyone is complaining about glimpses being so finite>ive been upgrading shells I dont even plan to use just to see their upgrade tree
>>745985279>>745985874Just have it cap at 10% per hit and each item in the stack increases the damage the grisha deals like with the consumable version.
>>745985926It's literally over...that being said on my first playthrough I had enough glimpses to upgrade 3 shells to max bond.
>>745985642So before those feminist hags claimed you were a misogynist coomer/gooner to shame men for liking sexy female characters in vidya, and once that stopped working they've pivoted to claiming straight men are trannies for liking sexy female characters? Make it make sense.
>>745985527>>745985874>>745985979its bugged now they will fix it, you are not supposed to summon a whole army of grishas
>>745986015There's no sense; just malice.
>>745985926you can see upgrade tree anyway besides the secret shell.
>>745986015Trans people are mentally ill and Maggs is definitely in the deep end. Also he is a shit writer, we all wait for the day he gets party van'd
I'm sorry, but a fight with one boss bellsnail and two worms does not deserve the fucking doom metal soundtrack it got
>>745985979Tie the grisha summons to melee damage inflicted. A % dice roll for every X damage inflicted. Strictly the melee damage component, not damage from other effects.People shouldn't be able summon an army of monsters for free by just standing in a corner while flailing their hands around hitting empty air like the star wars kid
>>745987778Oh it works on any attacks even if they don't hit? That's pretty scuffed.
Lazlo is my lad.>strong fat>noble>red>cool armor>fire elemental
this could have went so much better if they didn't do this crazy open world bullshit. im at the mushroom gate seeping mire and it works so much better when levels are like this
>>745983457Alright I finally beat it. I appreciate the advice on the item, I ended up grabbing in just in case I got too frustrated and well I almost had to use it. Just before I hit that point though I remembered that gragu had a node on his skill tree that lets him cleanse 50% of the time when he uses his heart which help a lot since the divine curse buildup ticks down so slowly. Combined with the other node that lets him regen all his hearts on applying bloodcurse(which importantly is on application NOT on the bleed proc) I had it in in the bag. Or well I'd say that but it took a few tries until he didn't troll me by his fire wave VFX disappearing or doing the fire wave back to back, since afaik aside from using the seedbearer's scriptures you can't unbacon yourself if you let the divine curse build all the way to full. That said, the fight having an insta-lose condition if you don't have the item is some bullshit, which kinda sucks since aside from that he's a fun if a little goofy fight since I ended up just literally ball punching him until I could stab him in the neck.
>>745989172Open worlds always suck compared to linear levels and stages, which would also be better for replay value but modern vidya opts for ubisoft open world slop for you to waste time in and get burnt out because the average normalgroid cattle likes wasting time on meaningless tasks to then repeat the cycle all over again and buy next open world slop a couple of years later instead of replaying what you already bought because of false promises or quality of life changes, only to be duped once again.
>>745979825There's three empty spots for blackmarrow chests, and what I assume to be harros' slab by the shellkeeper is still empty. One of the final beacons(the goddamn treasure room one) also teased someone either reaching into other dimensions or possible futures so maybe a shuffle/random/rogulite mode is in the cards
>>745963292Lost, wuwajeet?
I really hate that some elemental infusions are literally locked to just one weapon.
>notice a weird grey portal over some stairs in the tutorial>"Thats freaky. I'll go the other way first">get distracted>encounter the optional tree-looking boss >die pretty much immedietly>"this must be for later. thats fine by me">move on, arriving at the main hub temple>realise i forgot about the grey portal and can't go back anymoreChrist I'm so bad at games. I need a man. lol
>>745992923No, you need a beating for being a fag.
>>745993053Based
>>745957940I really hope we can get our robes back as a skin/shade at some point.
>>745956628i wont have time to play this for a while. is this shit still as jank and barebones as the original? the OG had good ideas and concepts, but the execution was rather poor and was a quite boring janky game.
>>745993218You can. I forgot where it is but its somewhere
>>745957469no. i am also playing it normally. most of us arent actually retarded coomers like OP. they are just a lot louder than us.
>>745989668>no night modeYou didn't beat the game.
I heard there is a hard mode but I didnt see an option for it. Pre-order exclusive ?
>try sister genessa and black needle>game feels way too harder now since enemies never stagger by my attckshmm...
>lightning proxima is wildly OP>ganessa is kinda shitNevet trust Fextralife or Fightin Cowboy...
fucking console design manjust let me click on the map where i want to go
>>745994985Her default double ability is fucking dogshit but her stray dobule is OP. I feel like she doesn't get good until you get tier 3 skills. Which is a huge glimpse investment.
The parry timing in this game is the worst in any game I've ever playedYou can literally perfect parry before an enemy attack starts, but you'll get hit if you parry the way parry is supposed to fucking workRetard devs confirmed
>>745995734They should have made it so it activates the moment you press the button instead of a certain moment during the animation, it's basic logic 101.
>>745994985maybe stop watching fagtubers and play the fucking game
Why does it look like UE5 tech demo. Couldn't they have picked an actual art-style?Also how much does it copy from Dark souls?
Is Arbiter's Prize worth upgrading to tier 3?I know Eredrim skills benefit from frost, but the frost infusion is only for the greatsword and that feels fucking awful to use
>>745996094I think it's strong with multihit stuff like axe dagger and scythe chainsaw.
>>745996094>is permanent bloodcurse good>one(UNO) fucking skill benefiting from frost>it's just 200%(lol) more damage against frozen targetsUse your fucking brain for a moment
How’s the enemy variety in this game?
>>745994985cowboy is a bluesky cuck ofc hes never gonna shill a shell with a big fat gyattler
>>745996204Just named every weapon I'm not using, feck>>745996231200% damage seems pretty good? But your tone suggests sarcasm, so I don't really know.
>>745996493The damage calculation in this game is broken as fuck and I can guarantee you that this "200%" in reality is nowhere close to 200%. You also invest a fuckton of points to get this skill to tier3 for something that works only sometimes. Now to be fair getting enemies frozen is way easier than one would think, but it can break some bosses if you freeze them just before phase transition break triggers since freezing disables breaks.
Is the frost main dungeon supposed to be the hardest? I cannot even reach the first beacon in this dungeon.
>>745996038https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yMbr-SCu3xY
>>745996693The last boss dungeon is really hard if you don't run past everything.
this final dungeon is pretty bussin bussin onc desu
>>745986015the eternal foid is literally crazy and mentally ill, remember?
>>745997032That's literally the moral of this game
>eredrim>martyr's sword>infinite sealName a more honest build
>>745965482Bumping this question.
