>“To my knowledge, no one in or out of the field has ever been able to cite a game worthy of comparison with the great dramatists, poets, filmmakers, novelists and composers. That a game can aspire to artistic importance as a visual experience, I accept. But for most gamers, video games represent a loss of those precious hours we have available to make ourselves more cultured, civilized and empathetic.“ - Quentin TarantinoIs he right /v/? Are games not art
Games don't have artistic integrity with how much they change in updates and remasters.
>>745968327he didn't say that
>>745968327>Are games not artthat's not what he's saying. you are a genuine retard.
Maybe. Does it somehow make you favorite games better or worse?
We literally had this thread 30 minutes ago
>>745968327Tarantino is the last person who should criticize anything
>>745968463Neither do films with special editions and remakes
>>745968327Film isn't art either. It's mass produced multimedia.
>>745968327>represent a loss of those precious hours we have available to make ourselves more cultured, civilized and empathetic.“like adding 'nigger' in every dialogue?
>>745968327Now that I think about it...There are not that many games that focus on Feets and foot fanserviseYeah we can mention THAT kojimbo game with a tiny scene on it, but yeah, I think big T is right on this one.
puts kill bill into Fortnite anyway because epic games gave me money for my 4 hour long super cut rerelease
>>745968327He really should play some Kojima games, he'd find mutual taste in feet and then he'll call them art
>>745968819souls games?
>>745968589You'll see it again in 30 minutes.
>>745968327Meanwhile his movies are filled with revisionist histories, absurd gun violence, more blood than the human body can possibly produce and over bloated run times than most cinema go'ers can take which is why his latest movies haven't performed well in comparison to the fucking Marvel movies he detests.He's just an insecure narcissist at the end of his career and he knows it. He's embracing his old man status happily.
>>745968327Chat, is this real?
>>745968647many great literary works are remakes of older books or folklore thoughbeit
He looks like a down syndrome kid got plastic surgery
>>745968327They ahould ask him now again after so many games pandered to footfags
>>745969068He acts like he has the downs too
>>745968327Watch someone say Mario 64 unironically.
>>745968523>''Did you know this famous Hollywood person has ties to Tel Aviv????''
>>745968327>dramatists, Okay>poets, Okay>filmmakers, Film is a low class art form, same as video games>novelistsOkay>and composersSee filmNotice which one of these Tarantino is?
What's goin on here?WHAT is goin on here?
>literally who says literally whatLiterally no one gives a shit
Threadly reminder that Tarantula never said that, and that it’s an Ebert quote.
uno farto 3:17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHb8tBh_VnU
>>745971694Notice how Ebert is also a film nerd? I don't know why all these filmfags have such a high horse.
>>745971598He's a faggot ? That's all I notice
>>745968327what is it about /v/ shitposters that come and say the dumbest shit everyday?why the fuck would anyone listen to a retard about "culture" from MOVIES? You're still just consuming media, just because it's an interactive medium doesn't invalidate it like most clickbait articles would have you believe
>>745968327>Are games not artWho the fuck cares?Games are garbage when they try to be "art", and are better when they try to be fun
>>745971824Inferiority complex, resentment, jealousy, it’s similar to how they felt about television for a long time.
Top Gun is gay
>>745968327>White guy who has written hundreds of n-bombs into his scripts, as well as countless shots of womens' feet, is going to lecture us on being cultured and empathetic.
>>745968327>looks up from cool gaming device yeah whatever foot sniffer>Continues gaming
>>745972304Only the first one, Maverick is pure kino
>>745968327Has Ebert been dead for so long we need to attribute his quotes to other people if we want to bait?
>>745972464Ebert died when most current /v/ users were in diapers.
>>745968327>talks about culture and artistic values>creates actionslop movieslollmao even
Seems just mad people care about vidya more than about his feetkink movies
>>745968327They say art is subjective, but it's also comparative. A 10/10 is only rated such because a 1/10 exists. So yes, I'd say we currently have masterpieces.
>>745971774came here for this
>>745972547I feel like the assumption that /v/'s brought in any young blood in the past 3 - 6 years has to be wrong. This site is a bunch of 40 year olds pretending they're braindead teens from sharty.
>>745971774Imagine having your fetish exposed in public next to a super model, but not only that, you also let out a fart on TV and they didn't even edit it out (or it was Live I dunno)
>>745968327>what is FromsoftFromsoft actualy made me go /lit/ and actually fucking read. Classical literature. Culture. Esoteric works. The same way with classical art. When has ever playing Kojima or watching Nolan shit made you wanna read the source material? If anything watching Blade Runner and reading PKD's novels made me go lookup the foundational concepts. Playing games like Talos Principle made me actually go study Philosophy as well as Computer Science.
>>745972464Misattributing the ebert quote is a very old meme
good lord he is ugly
>>745968819Girls frontline 2?
>>745974175It’s the inbred chin
>>745972458True
What's goin' on here?
>>745968327>and empathetic>Quentin Fucking kek
>>745968327Why is everyone so jealous of us?
Apparently Tarantino actually doesn’t like games, says he can’t get into them
>>745968819someone should tell him about chink gacha games then
>>745968327Married an Israeli Kike award
>>745968327No, he's a moron. He's making the same mistake other morons make and judging video games on their visuals, their stories, etc. None of that shit matters in a video game and that's not where the artistry lies, it lies in the gameplay. A dumbfuck boomer with zero hand/eye coordination can never experience, let alone appreciate the true artistry of video games.
>>745968327Tarantino woulnd't say that, it has too many complicated word.
>board games aren't art>no one has an issue with this>ball games aren't art>no one has an issue with this>card games aren't art>no one has an issue with this>video games aren't art>everyone has a melty
>>745968523Tarantino let the whole base creampie him.
>>745976753False equivalency, appeal to popularity
>>745968780based Quentin refusing to apologize for saying nigger.
>>745968327Incorrect. Art is expression and communication through skill as such video games qualify as art. Furthermore contemporary XXI century is defined by interactivity and constant connection; in that sense video games are not only art but the only form of cultural expression that reflects the contemporary cultural paradigm. All that said that doesn´t mean it´s a better or even comparable to actual film making. Progress is not a straight line, like evolution it is achieved though constant trial and error. We live in morally bankrupt, dishonest and hyper materialistic times, which, as you can guess are not the ideal conditions for art creation. A comprehensive explanation would be a chore and nobody would read it anyways but it should be at least considered that no, it´s not that video games are an inferior art form but rather that the is contemporary culture that is inferior and more shallow and that the decadence we observe in media is just a reflection of that.
when I was young I thought that games were so self-evident as an artform that it was a ridiculous argument.after having grown up, I now realize that I should have done everything in my power to prevent games from being perceived as art just to keep the fucking theatre kids and artFRIENDs away.
>>745976753Games have dwarfed films in most ways now
>>745973087to be fair it's only a black supermodel
>>745978225>Art is expression and communication through skilljust like painting with diarrhea
>>745968327Torontino makes entertainment, not art. He's not even from Toronto
>>745968327Really fucking stupid take. It's multimedia just like film is. A game is cinematography, writing, and music plus gameplay. His argument is that adding gameplay somehow makes all those other things not-art. He should stick to sucking toes instead of giving hot takes.
I really don’t get the hate for his films, on a personal basis sure but his films are genuinely good
>>745968327Wasn't this faggot going to make one last film or is he just living off his old films from now on
>>745968327Genuine question, when was he last relevant?
today i will remind them
>>745976753Nothing involving capital from investors is art, it's just a product.
>footfag thinking he is allowed to have an opinion about anything
>>745982040This. Indie films and games? Art. Studio productions? Product
Video games could be art but they'd rather be slot machines and overpriced action figures
>>745968327That applies to everything though, most songs, books and films are uncultured slop made for mass consumption. However, culture in itself is a loaded term. We by definition define cultured and uncultured things on the axis of how often and by whom they are consumed. To be cultured you have to spend frivolous sums of money and what's more, things we previously derived as uncultured are now things cultured people participate in just because they fell out of favour.Who gives a shit about culture, blow it out of your ass
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>>745968327Who knows? Videogames haven't been sucked off for as long as literature, music and films have been, so there's no real comparison to draw from. Similar to Ocarina of Time they always get an innate assumption of quality from people by default due to their historical importance. This is true even if that person hasn't even seen or heard the thing in question themselves, let alone possess the knowledge or experience required to understand or analyse it in the first place.All I know is that almost every single person who has said something like this is a pretentious asshat that doesn't even play videogames or barely plays them at best, so their opinion is meaningless.
>>745968327Games are toys not art
What's going on here?
>>745968327lol tarantino thinks any "film" has been worth of comparison with the great dramatists, poets, novelists, and composers?"films" can aspire to artistic importance as a visual experience, I guess
>>745968327Why would I care about the opinion of some edgelord foot fetishist?
>>745983770Predator is unironcially far more artistic than anything Quentin has ever made
He never even said that. He's not that elegant in his thoughts or writing as they made it seem>Quentin Tarantino famously criticized heavy CGI in modern action movies, stating in a 2003 Empire magazine interview: "If I'd wanted all that computer game bullshit, I'd have gone home and stuck my dick in my Nintendo."
>>745968327The quote is fake but it's true, yes. The problem lies in excluding film from the equation - both videogames and movies are wagecuck mediums that require little to no brainpower to process so you can still enjoy something after getting home from work. That's all they will ever be... AND THAT'S OKAY!
>>745968327Elden Ring
>>745968327Call me when this guy finally makes a different movie.
>>745968327Maybe he should go home and stick his dick in his Nintendo.
>>745986703His dick must be tiny. I guess that's why he only jerks off while sucking toes.
>>745968327he legit made zero good movies, not even exaggerating here. not only that most are too cringe to even be fun to watch
>>745968327There are a few. But generally, the bar is much lower for games, especially in writing. If he actually said this, he doesn't understand the draw of the medium. Super Mario 64's movement - just the movement - is a work of art that distinguishes the game on the same level as any top tier novel or film.
>>745972356>white
>>745968327>this fag made Inglourious Basterds>wants to talk about MUH "cultured, civilized and empathetic."Lmao. I would have more respect to the statement if it was made by john carpenter(the thing) or any other better film maker, this guy's movies from what I've seen are all just shallow
>>745986930>Super Mario 64's movement - just the movement - is a work of art that distinguishes the game on the same level as any top tier novel or film.Eh, it's entirely dependent on what you mean by "art", football isn't exactly art but it still has value, same with mario movment imo, i think artfags use art in discussions like this to mean "deep and thought provoking creations" which would automatically removes most games movies and even books from the discussion, if alternatively you use art to mean "a medium with which to communicate thoughts or feelings from the author to the audience" then yeah video games are art but art =/= good. At the end of the day i think video games are fun, if they have a nice and interesting story too which is implemented in a unique way then that's a nice bonus but it doesn't make or break anything for me, as for the whole "high art" discussion, art is in the eye of the beholder and i just pick up games that i find interesting and decide on my feelings for them afterwards, the only game i can mention off the top of my head that i consider "art" is darkest dungeon due to it's ability to put you into the stressful situations the characters find themselves in, but i wouldn't recommend it to film or book fags as due to their mediums they're inherently unable to experience or appreciate the game's true value or the unique blend it has of story mechanics music narration and atmosphere
>>745987258Carpender very famously like Vidya
>>745971824Because films tend to be better works of art. Games desperately try to live up to movies, with award shows and an aura of "prestige" and it's pathetic.
>>745987887Based. Honestly it makes sense that the better movie producer wouldn't talk down on games with an arrogant insecure tone
Some parts making up the game are art. In rare instances a whole game can be considered an art piece, yes
>>745968327Play dwarf fortress
>>745968327Comparison is not necessary. Vidya is the superior media. Movies should compare themselves to video games.
>>745968327Yeah hes right, of course them fatsos in this place will deny it but its the truth, a hobby doesnt always have to make you productive, a hobby is by nature a way to kill time but sometimes its too addictive that makes you neglect life outside of it
>>745968327Silent Hill 2
>>745968327True, but also plays, music, films, novels and poetry aren't art either.
It's not FINE ART but it's art. You can call anything art really, it's an incredibly vague thing by definition
>>745968327i want to kill him and put him in my dead kike storage
>>745968327Fuck art.
>>745990510Just attack him when he's eating out in NYC https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2dR1fxNZWpY
>>745968327Games are on the same level as films though. Silent Hill 1 is on par with the best of Lynch work. Same with any of GTA shit is on par with the best of Tarantino shit. Take that as you will.
What's the vidya equivalent of this piece of art?
Celeb worship isn't video games>>>/tv/
>>745968327Okay unc
Don't care what a feetkike thinks about vidya, yeah it ain't art you won't get pussy now fuck off to some normalfaggot nigger hobby.
>>74599308180% of those gains are because gacha shit though.
>>745968327>>745968523kek so much for civility and empathy
>>745987245Tarantino is a Jew through marriage only.
>>745991238good idea
>>745968327Lobotomy Corporation
>>745968327Nice bait that was Roger faggot that said this
>>745987258Lmaooooooooooh oh wait tarantino didn't say that. OP is lying on the internet.
>>745968327>Man who blatantly plagiarized from others lectures you about artistic merit
>>745968327Perhaps, perhaps not.A banana taped to a wall got in to an art exhibition as a piece so make of that what you will.Unless that was totally made up in which case ignore what I said.
>>745996423There’s a dude in norway who shoots paint out of his ass on canvases and norway paid him to do it
All his films suck
>>745988994Films aren't art.