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Why is cyberpunk much more soulful than any other GTA game?
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it's peak nostalgia
lots of good memories back then
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>>745973724
>SA
>3
>VC
>all “realism slop”
guys I get not liking VI and rockstar of david, but do we really have to go so far to the point of contrarianism that we think cyberpunk has more soulful than san andreas?
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>>745973724
>using the word slop
Why would I care about the opinion of a 12 year old?
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>>745973724
Cyberpunk is an actual game with gameplay mechanics, choices, quests etc. How disappointing it was or buggy, lacking additional features or whatever else like this is irrelevant here

GTA is THE slop franchise. It's a braindead, casual, linear, moviegame series with no redeeming factors whatsoever. Antichrist of vidya industry really, dragging down everything around with each release
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>>745973724
Both get mogged by saints row.
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Night City is one of the worst cities in any videogame.
You can't do ANYTHING in it, you can't go to clubs to party with npcs, you can't go to a restaruant sit down and eat.
Even in fucking Skyrim you can go to an inn, rent a room, sleep, wake up, go to the cook and buy food, sit and eat.

What the fuck can you do in Cyberpunk 2077? The game in which 99% of the map is a desert and you have a tiny city with randomly generated NPCs walking from one corner to the other.

The fact that 2013 GTA 5 city feels alive but Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't have buildings you can go into other than 5 clothing stores is pathetic.

Cyberpunk fans should just admit they hate GTA becuase it's a male franchise with male protagonists while Cyberpunk 2077 allowed them to make their pornified female self insert and become dykes.
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>>745974275
>Cyberpunk is an actual game with choices

Lmao. What choices? Every convseration has just TWO dialogue options you dishonest bitch. You guys cried for years over Fallout 4 giving you just 4 dialogue options but Cyberpunk has even less and no roleplaying at all and you come here to say it has choices?

Kill yourself.
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>>745973724
This tranny is right, 2077 is a better game than any Grand Theft Auto slop in history.
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Go back, faggot
>>>/twatter/
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>>745974403
Yeah, exactly this. Choices, something GTA doesn't have since it's a movie in video game skin
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Woo another jeet thread!
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>>745974495
>something GTA doesn't have

You literally choose between 3 different endings in GTA 5.
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>>745974538
anon please
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>>745974335
there's your problem you retarded niggerbrained retard, you think cyberpunk is supposed to play like GTA
you're the same braindead retard who bitched about adding meaningless fucking garbage like a metro system, which they did eventually, diverting precious developer time to some nonsense fucking fluff

>you can't go to clubs to party with npcs, you can't go to a restaruant sit down and eat.
>Even in fucking Skyrim you can go to an inn, rent a room, sleep, wake up, go to the cook and buy food, sit and eat.
you don't do any of these fucking things more than once you massive fucking faggot retard
if you love facile shallow completely fucking empty "immersive" elements go play your fucking terrible looting simulator called Red Dead 2.
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>>745974278
This.
You’ll never find another map like Stilwater again. SA comes close, but SR1&2 were just perfect. Shame the franchise died after 3.
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>>745973724
It's not
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>>745974612
>you think cyberpunk is supposed to play like GTA

No actually Cyberpunk 2077 was supposed to be played like witcher, was supposed to have roleplaying, third person cutscenes, etc.

Instead the end result was a discount GTA in a city that's as dystopic as GTA cities but has even less content to do in them.

There's no immersion, there's no exploration, there's nothing other than going from one point to the next to get a call from an NPC to tell you to fight X gang or Y cyberpsychos.

>you don't do any of these fucking things more than once

You not using an RPG to roleplay is your problem. Not surprised you like Cyberpunk 2077 then since it's an extremely linear porn game that allowed you trannies to play as a woman. Congrats on masturbating to Judy.
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>>745974620
Not a GTA shill but what's so different about stilwater compared to any GTA city? I've never finished a single GTA, always thought they were boring but have beat SR2. Always assumed they were the same open world wise.
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>>745974612
Damn you're thoroughly retarded.
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IV has a very nice bleak vibe going for it.
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>>745974580
He's not wrong. Hell IV has even more choices and they unironically matter more than Cyberpunk's because you get actual benefits from them ie Playboy/Dwayne, Derrick/Francis.
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The only good thing that came from cyberpunk is the anime
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>>745973724

The word slop itself has become slop.

As soon as I see that word, I immediately disregard anything you have to say.
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>>745974735
>like witcher, was supposed to have roleplaying
Witcher doesn't have roleplaying, Cyberpunk does
>third person cutscenes
No cRPG player considers this to be a RPG feature, what in the flying fuck are you even talking about
>>745974923
No, all of those nigger worship games are a linear moviegames with no gameplay and no choices to make
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>>745975071
Litmus test for 80 IQ bandwagon jumping retards. The first season of the anime is shallow emotionally manipulative garbage. Cyberpunk's actual story and emotional beats are 10x better than literally anything it has in it.
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>>745975108
>no actual argument
Figures.
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>>745975108
>Witcher doesn't have roleplaying, Cyberpunk does

Masturbating to your female self insert is not roleplaying anon.
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>>745973724
No idea
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>>745975071
I bet you watched it dubbed too you fucking retarded faggot LMFAO

>>745975165
Witcher 3 features no roleplaying whatsoever I don't know what your tranny strawman bullshit has to do with anything
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>>745973724
wished the devs spent more time in this """"rpg"""" building the roplaying aspect instead of the stupid city and boring story
>instead of the gay nomad/corp/street kid origins
>you can chose to join (or already be) in a gang
>have to be hatian (black) to be a part of the voodoo boys comes with unique hacker skill tree
>to be a part of the animals you have be a roided up strength melee build
>etc.
what a waste ಠ_ಠ
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>>745975204
>Witcher 3 features no roleplaying whatsoever

You don't know what roleplaying is. Porn and autogenophilia has rotten your brain.
I'm sorry Witcher 3 didn't let you play as the woman you wish you were.
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>>745974923
>Spare the drug dealer in the apartment complex
>Come across him in a random encounter later
>"Oh boy he's gonna start yappin' about how he turned his life ar-"
>Starts blasting
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>>745974612
It should have been a futuristic GTA. I wanted a game like that, and what I got was a faux open world deus ex with heccin reddit characters
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>>745975165
Witcher has no roleplaying anon. It's an action game with a premade character, with a premade personality, a premade backstory, a premade class and a premade relations with everyone, since everyone knows him from their previous interactions detailed in numerous books.
Cyberpunk is by default, inherently a better RPG with better roleplaying
>>745975153
GTA is THE slop, moviegame franchise. Not even Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty are on this level. There is no argument to be had here
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>>745974612
>you think cyberpunk is supposed to play like GTA
The devs thought Night City was gonna be highly interactive and be "the next step in open world RPGs" when it turned out to have less features than the fucking Oblivion Imperial City.
>bitched about adding a metro system
Something that should've been there from the get go, yeah.
>diverting precious developer time
The game was in development for more than half a decade and released a steaming turd worse off than an Early Access title.
>you don't do any of these fucking things more than once
You're just showing how much of a subhuman 30IQ kind of player you are for stating something like this, assuming most everyone else that plays RPGs is like you. You sure gun and ball games wouldn't be more your speed? No need to care about immersion and roleplay in 'em.
you massive fucking faggot retard
>go play Red Dead 2
Add a couple simple perk trees and it'd automatically be more of an RPG than Cyberscam.
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>>745974275
LMAOOO least delusional CuckDPR fan

>Cyberpunk is an actual game with gameplay mechanics
Ahahhaha you have the dogshittiest slop gunplay ever with health bars and numbers like some shitty mobile game and third rate shovelware driving

>choices
Selecting from 3 bits of flavor dialogue that change absolutely nothing lol. Your game makes Bethslop seem like the purest RPG's that ever existed


>GTA is THE slop franchise
Cybertranny please, your game doesn't even have a dynamic wanted system or police chases on par with GTA3 from 25 years ago. There hasn't been a bigger regression in vidya standards than C2077 and the braindead sloppers that praise it
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>>745975430
>premade character, with a premade personality, a premade backstory, a premade class and a premade relations with everyone

This is gonna hurt you, but you do know you can ROLEPLAY a character that's not your pornified bimbo female self insert... right?

You do realizea requirement for PLAYING A ROLE is not YOU making your porn addict fantasy, right?

You do know Tom Holland didn't write or invent Spiderman when he's PLAYING THE ROLE of Spiderman... right?
I hope one day you can stop being a porn addict freak.
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>>745973724
Why does it feels a lot more empty though?
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>>745975108
What roleplay does Cyberpunk have? V is always the same character no matter what, and always makes the same retarde choices. Hell you're always a Street Kid even when you choose to play another background.
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>>745975218
I have literally never and would never want this. It's a whole fucking retarded system for weird fucking morons like you. Yeah instead of being what the lore has established as a "Solo" which is a badass fucking merc without official affiliations, I'm going to join some fucking rinky dink faggot street gang. I'm going to specifically make my 3rd playthrough a Haitian nigger playthrough, I cannot wait! I love niggers!

>>745975370
>faux open world
yeah, "faux". you can practically sequence skip some missions by using the fully realized verticality of the world to assasinate them through an open window after platforming to get there for 3 minutes but it's "faux" open world because....
By that standard it is literally more open world than GTA.

muh heckin reddit btw

If all you wanted was "futuristic GTA", NO, YOU'RE THE REDDITOR!
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>>745975517
so you think mario 64 is a role playing game too i guess
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>>745974813
Stilwater’s map is more diverse and purposeful. A lot more to do too, with activities and whatnot. The NPCs are also way more interesting.
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>>745973724
Cyberpunk was a shitty game with broken mechanics and an empty open world, the only good aspect were the visuals. It's actually crazy that you defend this game as a good open world but fags like you are braindead
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>>745975517
Go ask any website for classic CRPGs how much of a "roleplaying game" Witcher 3 is, retarded nigger. I don't many the tranny ones either, I mean the ones where they host mods that remove all the niggers from Baldur's Gate 3.
>bringing up Tom Holland out of fucking nowhere
shut the fuck up zoomer
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>>745975679

Mario 64 is a platformer game. It has no roleplaying gameplay at all.

Witcher 3 has choices, immersion, dialogue options, clothing and appearence options, romance options, etc.
You being upset Witcher 3 forces you to play as a MALE when you wish you were a woman doesn't stop it form being an RPG.

A character creator and letting you make your female self insert like you guys do in Cyberpunk doesn't make it an RPG when, again, it has less dialogue options than Fallout 4, a game you guys criticized like crazy and claimed it's not an RPG.
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>>745975701
fpbp
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>>745975430
>It's an action game with a premade character, with a premade personality,
Your Cybershit 2077 OC has a set voice and zero dialogue choices that amount to anything at all. The game has even less roleplaying possibilties than Fallout 4. Of course the retarded Cybershart fan doesn't notice any of this lol

Sorry but your favorite game will always be known as the sloppiest goyslop of all time
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>>745975721
>CRPGs how much of a "roleplaying game" Witcher 3 is

It's more of a roleplaying game than Cyberpunk, that's for sure. You being upset games like Cyberpunk and Kingdom Come force you to play a male doesn't stop it from being an RPG.

You guys need to stop using games to pretend you're women.
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>>745975772
but you are playing the role of mario
that was your criteria
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>745975701
>745975786
>xx:39:49
>xx:41:22
>whoa you're so right, how has anyone ever been so right? haha
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>>745974335
It’s bots
>>745974612
No one wants to play a shitty streamlined campaign about Jewish morality btw! :)
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>>745975612
>you can practically sequence skip some missions by using the fully realized verticality of the world to assasinate them through an open window after platforming to get there for 3 minutes but it's "faux" open world because....
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>>745975858

You're not playing the role of Mario, the game doesn't allow you to play the role. All Mario allows is to run left or right, jump and in some ocassions ride Yoshi.

I'm sorry Witcher 3 doesn't allow you to be a woman.
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>>745974620
Is SR2 still a mess to play on PC or are their fan patches that fix it yet
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>>745975858
You actually play the role of Lakitu filming Mario.
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>>745975612
you never even played any gta after iv neanderthal
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>>745975842
This is literally the only argument you have. You just say nonsensical horseshit and then bring up the fact you can play as a woman. You are the Quartering viewer bandwagoning "I became a racist in 2017" faggot that makes us all look like retarded one-issue obsessives.
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>>745975836
100k players 6 years after launch because a fucking trailer dropped lmao
Grand Theft Auto 6 is actually the sloppiest goyslop of all time.
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>>745975939
No sadly. There are several fan patches. I recommend gentlemen of the row or juiced. Gentlemen of the row just adds cut content and extra weapons.
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>>745976049

Do you seriously want me to open /vg/ so we can all see how Cybeprunk 2077 fans are all porn addicts SPAMMING pictures of their female self inserts in pornified outfits while writing fanfiction about being dykes with Judy?

You CP2077 prove time and time again you're nothing but porn addict trannies. The only reason you like the game so much is it let's you BE a woman.

And it's not a coincidence the games you guys hate the most and insist they are not RPGs are games that FORCE you to be MALE.
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and then people remember there isn't jack shit to do in Night City compared to the average GTA game having strip clubs, air vehicles, stores you can rob, sports minigames, and fast food restaurants
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>>745975457
What are you even babbling about. I never played Cyberpunk and never will. I don't care for it's quality, success or loses or whatever. Still, it's a RPG, if of a far lesser, inferior Action form, and actually has gameplay mechanics and a choice and consequence
GTA is the antivideogame which always has to be shat on
>>745975517
>You do know Tom Holland didn't write or invent Spiderman when he's PLAYING THE ROLE of Spiderman... right?
Equaling Acting with Roleplaying means you have no idea what Roleplaying is, since they are not this same at all whatsoever. To equal them would make every single video game a RPG, an absurd stance.
Your sperging out over imagined scenarios worthless
>>745975548
Different builds, character creation, choice and consequences, stats and gear system and so on and on
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>>745974335
Cyberpunk is much deeper and has more missions/quests than GTA. Side activities are really quite none indeed but that's the easiest thing to fix with mods which is what people did. GTA4 has good story but barely any fun side activities. 5 has shit story and 0 fun side activities but it has a better map than 4.
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>>745974335
This nigga didn't even play cyberpunk lol

>you can't go to clubs to party with npcs
yes you can
>you can't go to a restaruant sit down and eat
you can do that without sitting, the restaurant guys all have different voice lines too
>Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't have buildings you can go into other than 5 clothing stores
yes it does
>Cyberpunk fans should just admit they hate GTA
I like GTA it's just that you're seething about a game you obviously never played that doesn't conform to your need for tranny roleplay servers
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>>745975612
>>745976038
IV definitely lets you do a ton of missions in a variety of ways other than what is instructed. I onky recently found out you could assassinate Lenny Petrovic from afar by going into a nearby building, going up to the roof and find a sniper rifle.
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>>745976286
>Equaling Acting with Roleplaying means you have no idea what Roleplaying is

You do realize Acting is playing a Role... right?
Do you know what Roleplaying stands for?

I'm sorry the role Witcher 3 forced you to play was the role of a MALE. We are quite aware how much you hate that type of role. So run along now to Cyberpunk 2077, glad it allowed you to be the woman you wish you were.
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>mentally ill porn addicts trying to gaslight people into thinking that cyberpunk was actually a decent game
same kind of subhumans that play sims 4.
all of them only like it for those infinite degenerate sex mods
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I’ve never seen a screencap that made me want to just reach into the screen and beat the shit out of the person who wrote it like a highschool bully
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>>745976169
Yeah please do because I already have it open and the past 11 hours worth of posts are entirely about gameplay and gameplay mods you fucking stupid nigger.
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>>745976373
>yes you can

Prove it.

>you can do that without sitting, the restaurant guys all have different voice lines too

Food stands are now restaurants?

>yes it does

Prove it.
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>>745976169
>all porn addicts SPAMMING pictures of their female self inserts in pornified outfits while writing fanfiction about being dykes
That's just /vg/ though, gta 6 threads will have the exact same thing with Lucia kek
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>>745976169
This is why you're such a fucking boring retard. I don't hate the Witcher and Geralt is one of my favorite game protagonists. But you're arguing it's "more of an RPG" which literally no one who isn't a fucking retard would agree with.
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>>745976509
>>>/vg/578417912
You're such a sad troll. One of the first 10 replies in the Cyberpunk thread is a tranny posting their female self insert lmao. He even dressed her as a whore.

Is there a SINGLE cyberpunk 2077 fan who doesn't use the game to pretend they are a woman?
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>>745976514
>Prove it.
Play the game retard
>Food stands are now restaurants?
Yes, but there are also actual restaurants too
>Prove it.
Play the game nigger
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>>745976617

Cyberpunk 2077 is not more of an RPG than Witcher 3 just because it allowed you to be a woman, troon.
And "n-nobody else agrees with you" is called ad populum fallacy, do you know what a fallacy is little troon?
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the zoomer version of Bioshock Infinite
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>>745976286
>Different builds, character creation, choice and consequences, stats and gear system and so on and on
Same as Witcher aside from character creation. But if you are seriously going to argue that sex and appearance in any way alter V's static personality, you'd be arguing in very bad faith. He or she has the identical personality regardless of whether you pick Penis A or Penis B.
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>>745976713
> The dinner you're forced to go into the main quest to talk with the japanese guy

Wow, the city is so big and immersive the only locations you can go into... are the ones the main quest forces you to go into lmao

>Yes, but there are also actual restaurants too

Can you go into one that's not the main quest one? :)

>Play the game nigger

So you can't prove it?
Thought so.
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>>745973724
Gta 5 became popular because youtubers made online a big thing, a lot of click bait racing videos for kids everywhere on yt and cringe roleplaying. Most people are waiting for Gta 6 online to do the same thing
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>>745976134
A used 360 copy is only 10 bucks. I might just go that route. Although I better hurry the fuck up before this ends up like other PS3 after market games where they sky rocket to $100.

I hate retro collectors so much
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>>745976796
What the fuck kind of revisionism is this shit? GTA5 was already popular.

>Developed by Rockstar North and published by Rockstar Games, the critically acclaimed open world action-adventure video game sold 11.21 million units in its first 24 hours, and generated revenue of $815.7 million (£511.8 million), going on to reach $1 billion (£624.45 million) in sales after just three days on September 20 2013.

>The figure smashes records previously held by the Call of Duty videogame series and blockbuster movies including The Avengers and Avatar.
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>>745973724
it's not
kill yourself tasteless retard
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>>745976830
It’s well worth it. If you can, get SR1 as well too because although it is a bit more primitive it’s really great in its own right and you can appreciate SR2 and its map a bit more.
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I play gta to drive tanks and have shootouts with cops which is something you don’t understand as you’re too old to have creativity hence good taste in video games.
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>>745975701
>broken mechanics and an empty open world
But enough about gta? Online and mods were the only reason people played that shit
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>>745977042
GTA Online wasn't even available at launch. What the fuck are you people talking about?
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>>745976286
>character creation
But you're always V, with a predetermined personality and a predetermined voice and a predetermined manner of speaking and acting. It's no different than pretending GTA V has "character creation" because you can change Michael's hairstyle. You're always V, and V is always the same damn character.
>stats
GTA has gun stats, San Andreas and RDR2 have body stats on top of it.
>choice and consequences
Anon don't make me laugh:
>story always unfolds the same way, 97% of dialogue options lead to literally nothing except a 5 seconds long different line
>Lifepaths are pointless, the only difference between them is the tutorial which serves no purpose to the story and after 20 minutes you end up as a Street Kid anyway
>the quest with the Corpo mommy is easily the one with the most choices but it's literally the only one in the entire game because it was created for the fake 2018 demo
>the heist has only one outcome, spoiled a year before release at that
>Judy's quest with Evelyn has only one outcome
>the quest with the Voodoo Boys has two outcomes, one of which makes absolutely 0 sense; both are pointless since you'll never meet these characters/factions again and the rest of the game isn't affected in any way
>all missions with Panam/Aldecaldos have only one outcome
>River's questline goes two ways, you either fail it or do it; so really only one outcome
>Kerry's quest has only one outcome
>the Peralez's quest has two options which end up in the exact same way and have zero relevancy to anything else
>side gigs are all the same, go here and kill/escort/steal this, no relevance to gameplay other than filling up those spaces between a mission and the next
>three major endings which do not rely on a reputation system, or literally anything that evaluates your choices during the game; literally "choose your ending from this list", something Deus Ex and fucking GTA did decades ago
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>>745977042
>Online and mods
>GTAO came out 2 weeks after GTAV launched
>PC version released 2 years later
>Biggest media entertainment release of all time was only popular because of things that didn't even exists
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>>745973724
Lmao, fuck off.
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>>745977025
I grew out of meaningless never ending cop battles and being amused by killing random NPCs for no reason in my mid to late teens, the problem then becomes that GTA fucking sucks cock and always have and is a "drive to this point on your GPS" simulator and GTA6 is already shown to be the exact fucking same empty garbage.
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>>745973906
Cybergolems are incapable of being nuanced.
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imagine using the word swag in the year 2026
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>>745977542
>even though the fastest way to make money was through minigames and glitches
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>>745976437
Genuine brain damage
You do not understand a thing. You do not play cRPGs. Roleplaying means taking on another role, someone who is not you and then shaping his character and story with your OWN choices that fit this character personality. In one playthrough you can be an evil Orc Barbarian, in a second a noble Paladin, neither being anything like you. You can be a jewish commie irl and still roleplaying a nazi in RPG, on your own making choices to burn kikes, since your character is not you, but nonetheless you take on his role and make choices to fit character you created

Acting in a movie means obeying a prewritten role which was established to follow a particular narrative with no choices to make since you are not playing a RPG, you are Acting, doing a job which requires irl skills to look convincing for people who will then watch your performance

Which is why it's not Roleplaying and has nothing to do with it, a leisure activity which doesn't require any manual skills, since those would overwrite skills and stats of a character you are Roleplaying as, an inexcusably bad design decision in any cRPG
>>745976764
Gear system doesn't even exists in a first game, there are 3 armors in game, with last one coming in 3 reskins. Sequels barely improve on anything since everything about Geralt already was defined down to his very specific weapon specialization. Game wasn't designed to be a cRPG, it was designed to be a cinematic action game about Geralt, with few choices here and there, still limited to his personality

Removing Character Creation from any cRPG is a massive blow to it and means that you as a developer put no care on roleplaying, instead you want for a player to see a preestablished scenario with preestablished actors and as such giving player freedom to roleplay would be problematic
>>745977165
I never played Cyberpunk, have no intention in doing so and never will. I'm here to shit on GTA, the antichrist of Video Games not to defend Cyberpun
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>>745978201
>Roleplaying means taking on another role

And that role can be given to you. You can roleplay as Henry of Skalitz, as Geralt of Rivia, etc.

It's not a requirement for roleplaying to let you make the woman you wish you were anon. I'm sorry you can only roleplay women. Actors can roleplay any character they are given but to you, roleplay is only valid if it's your female pornified self insert?
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>>745978201
>I never played Cyberpunk, have no intention in doing so and never will
As if you could hurt your credibility any more.
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>>745978326
You should take a step back, realize your "point" which is not a point just you saying "Actually, x is y" without meaningful quantification other than "I say so" is only like 10 words, while your completely irrelevant ranting about how the other poster is definitely a tranny and all of their beliefs spring solely from being a tranny, is two and a half times longer. His post is objectively of far greater worth than anything you've said in this entire thread.

>>745978201
>I'm here to shit on GTA, the antichrist of Video Games
Godspeed.
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>>745978326
>And that role can be given to you. You can roleplay as Henry of Skalitz, as Geralt of Rivia, etc.
Nope. Geralt is too strongly established, with games not even using amnesia to let you roleplaying, instead using amnesia to explain to you why people know him already. There is no roleplaying in Witcher action games, just like there is none in Call of Duty. They were not designed to be cRPGs first and foremost, simply borrowed some features from them.
>>745978341
I don't care about Cyberpunk. It's aRPG, as shit as it may be, it's still aRPG and so inherently superior to antichrist of gaming that is GTA
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>>745978523
>His post is objectively of far greater worth than anything you've said

I'm sorry but if your point is "It's not an RPG unless i can make my own female self insert" then it's not a good point.

I care not for you rejecting the dictionary and the meaning of words. I'm truly sorry you feel uncomfortable playing male roles, not that doesn't stop RPGs from being RPGs.
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>>745978201
>Removing Character Creation from any cRPG
Anon, the question of this post was >>745975548 was
>What roleplay does Cyberpunk have?
Compared to Witcher 3. What the fuck are you doing answering a question you haven't even read? Plastering Pathfinder images. No one was comparing anything to Owlcat shit. It was specifically between C77 and Witcher. You good? Why are you injecting yourself into the discussion you haven't even comprehended?
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>>745978326
there is no play in roleplaying a set character that has canon decisions, the only option is to either roleplay that character and take the canon choices or not roleplaying and picking choises the character wouldnt pick
game without a character creation is not a roleplaying game
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>>745978607
>Geralt is too strongly established

You have to be trolling to say a character is too strongly established in a Cyberpunk 2077 thread. You can't even decide your V's favorite color. Even if you pick Corpo or Nomad your V will still spout all Gang knowledge and talk like a gangster.

Even Fallout New Vegas forced you to play as a Courier, there's barely any game that genuinely zaps you from existence and gives you full freedom as to who you are, and again, not because those full freedom games allowed you to make your female self insert it makes them more of an RPG than Witcher 3.
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>>745973724
>realism bad
weird way to call devs incompetent
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>>745978703
>game without a character creation is not a roleplaying game

Not becuase the game forced you to be male it means you can't roleplay. Your transexual creepy behavior does not reflect on the game content. I had no issue roleplaying in KCD and Witcher games.

If you struggled so much maybe it's because you're seething those games forced you to be a man? You clearly seem to resent that.
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>>745978854
>ad hominem
you lost the debate
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>>745978931

Nobody attacked you though, if you feel attacked by being called out you should wonder why.
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>>745976791
>Can you go into one that's not the main quest one
Yes. These are all really fucking stupid questions. You act like the answer to these is no, but the answer to all of them is yes, and then when someone tells you that you obviously have not played the game, you just ignore it and plug your ears.

The diner with the Japanese guy is not the location pictured, it's across the map, you retard
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>>745979042
>calling someone a tranny is not an attack
projecting much?
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>>745978786
He is probably an autistic Owlcat tranny and apparently didn't notice or simply chose to ignore that the argument was about Cyberpunk and Witcher roleplay. His knee-jerk reaction was to imbue himself and simulate that the discussion was about his 300h crpg slopa of prebuffing being da best all along.
>CRPG fans when they have to follow the simplest of arguments in the thread
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>>745974275
sup tranny
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>realism slop
You're a bullet eating superhuman that can defeat several crime syndicates by yourself. Even without listening to the radio, you know that the world of GTA is absolutely insane with over the top violence that puts action movies to shame, and it gets extra weird with the events of Manhunt 1 being canon, and CJ dealing with the conspiracy missions and eventually getting a jetpack.
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>>745979225
>GTA is THE slop franchise. It's a braindead, casual, linear, moviegame series with no redeeming factors whatsoever. Antichrist of vidya industry really, dragging down everything around with each release
correct about everything

>response is "sup tranny"
Poster's name is Jose, their race is almost wholly ambiguous but they're definitely not white. They live in Dearborn Michigan and their hair is very curly. They were born after 2006.
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>>745978625
I'm here to shit on GTA, since it's obviously inferior to aRPG called Cyberpunk. Previous games of CDPRed were action games about particular Witcher Geralt. Eventually they made this aRPG called Cyberpunk, regardless of how shit it is. It's simple as that
>>745978786
Geralt had 7 books detailing his backstory, personality, choices and relations with all characters in the world. His class is defined so strongly you only use a very particular type of a melee weapon. At best you can slightly switch his focus between using a sword or few spells. You cannot be for an example a cartoonishly evil character as him, since you are not allowed to shape his personality, he has everything defined already and games weren't designed to be cRPGs to begin with.
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Cyberpunk would have been better if rockstar made it minus rocksaar. Also if they replaced keanu with someone that could actually act
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>>745973724
As a GTA-like, CP is shit, though.
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>>745973724
all of these are mogged by Deus Ex games.
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>>745974480
GTA2 wipes the floor with CP2077
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>>745979375
>You cannot be for an example a cartoonishly evil character as him

So? You can't be cartoonishly evil in Cyberpunk 2077 either, the game begins with you carrying a wounded woman to the medics and killing all the evil men who hurt her.

What is your point?
What game let's you be genuinely cartoonishly evil without it feeling out of place?
Geralt not being able to be evil does not stop the game from being an RPG.
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>>745979949
>carrying a wounded woman to the medics and killing all the evil men who hurt her
oh god this fucking brainrot nigger has to make this into sexual politics too
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>>745979375
>Previous games of CDPRed were action games about particular Witcher Geralt.
And their recent game was fps action game about particular mercenary named V.
If one is action shit so is another. If one is an RPG, so is another. It's as simple as that.
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>>745975939
https://github.com/sp00nznet/OpenSaints
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>>745980151

Are you ok?
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>>745975136
Valuing philosophy over human emotions will keep you smart but not wise. And it's a surefire path to a lonely, impotent life.
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>>745979949
>>745980162
>What is your point?
Witcher is an Action game and designed to be an Action game and nothing more since it cannot be anything more with a premise it has, that is being a very particular, very defined character lifted form an extensive series of books

Cyberpunk is aRPG, even if it's shit, even if developers failed at making it an indepth aRPG, even if they failed at making reactivity and choice and consequence to options they provided like picking a backstory. It's aRPG if a shit one

GTA is naught but a blight upon the industry
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>>745980228
You think "AND THEN THEY MAKE YOU KILL ALL THE EVIL EVIL MEN WHO HURT THE POOR WOMAN" isn't this retard taking a turn into Quartering tier retard gender politic bullshit? What do you mean "are you ok"?
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>>745980325
>and nothing more since it cannot be anything more with a premise it has

It's still an RPG, and a very good one.

>It's aRPG if a shit one

It's an RPG but Witcher no? Why? Because Witcher forces you to be male and that triggers you?
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>>745980325
No, Witcher is also an action RPG. Just like Cyberpunk. Being able to pick penis A and a prologue for a static personality of an established character does not make it an RPG over The Witcher. Sorry, lil' sneed. You can kick and scream as much as you like about it.
If one is an aRPG, so is another. If one is an action game, so is another.
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>>745980402

Is that not what happens in the game?
How is that description inaccurate? Are you alright?
Describing 1:1 exactly what happens in the game shouldn't bother you this much. Specially when the game is very political.

Did any of my words trigger you? or you gonna deny what happens in the very tutorial?
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Fun fact: It is extremely likely and logically consistent based on real world information we have right now that Cyberpunk's setting would be extremely hostile to Trannies. The abundance of low-IQ racial gangs, combined with how openly uncontested most violence is in Night City in lore and in general, would mean that the second any gang member feels at all insecure or threatened in their masculinity by a tranny means that they would just openly shoot them in broad daylight. Because being a tranny would be so inherently dangerous in this setting, pharma corps would be unable to make any real cash selling off their worthless products off on them, and would just simply stop lobbying and gaslighting trannies to be pushed so hard and be a protected class. With the lack of pressure to transition, autists would just simply stop doing it.
>But they'll be netrunners!
The best netrunners in the lore are Haitians. They would also be inclined to spam black ICE and fry the brains of every single human that pretended to be a girl online (even if they weren't trans and just pretending) out of insecurity and emasculation.
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>>745980610
>you, playing as either a man or a woman, kill organ traffickers and rescue the client, who is a woman
>this is because men are all assumed to be evil, despite the fact the person helping you rescue her is a man
Yeah, not because nobody on the planet wants to fucking drag a naked dude out of a bathtub and cradle him to their breast
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>>745980769
>not because nobody on the planet wants to fucking drag a naked dude out of a bathtub

Dude you're genuinely insane. You whine about my comment being "political" for pointing out the protag is a forced good guy, and now suddenly you turned this into "MEN ARE NOT WORTH SAVING REE I HATE MEN!"?

Get your head checked. Who the fuck doesn't wanna save a man from organ traffickers? Are you some man hating tranny?
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>>745977517
>sunfaggot stil seething after 8 fucking years
lmfao
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>>745980236
Good shows carry emotion while also being well-written.
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>>745973724
cyberpunk was godlike when it was released on PC. nobody gives a fuck about some cancer ass xbox S small dick hardware bullshit.
but the public received it like the cancer they are.

people are fucking retarded.
fuck all of you.
get cancer and die niggerfaggots.
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>>745981020
>cyberpunk was godlike
Based tranny loving Cybershit.
Enjoyed playing as a woman dude? Did you jerk off to Judy?
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>>745980882
.... no I'm saying objectively, fucking obviously, that people are happy to or willing to or comfortable with saving a woman from a perilous situation, especially normalfags and non-whites. No random hood nigger dragging a naked man out of a tub in the 10 minutes of their SCI FI GRAND THEFT AUTO (which is what so many browns in this thread wanted from the game) is going to stop themselves from at the very least going "ayoooo what is dis zesty ass faggot shit"
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>>745981020
Shazam fags haven't bullied you enough.
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I really wanted to explore night city but the early game quests legit killed my spirit so fucking fast I haven't gone back since
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>>745981113
>"ayoooo what is dis zesty ass faggot shit"

The game was advertised with this.
You stupid gorilla.
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>>745980542
Nope, it's an action game
Because Witcher forces me to be a not only a Witcher, but also a very particular Witcher named Geralt with a strongly preestablished backstory, relations with other people, personality and goals
>>745980560
Cyberpunk allows me to create a character to roleplay. The fact that reactivity is lacking does not diminish the fact that it was designed to be aRPG and they simply failed at giving it depth required like said career choices being more meaningful
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>>745973724
nightcity has so many details it's ridiculous. hard to top this
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>>745975548
What roleplay does Witcher have?
You're always the witcher, you always kill monsters, your love interest is always a fucking magician of some type.
>kill the troll or don't kill the troll
Doesn't change shit, because it isn't an actual choice. You still have to [Deal with troll] to [pass to next area]

You people are all insane.
85% retarded and 99.85% slaves like I said in that thread about e-tards.
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>>745981094
you are gay
>>745981189
>Shazam fags haven't bullied you enough.
i dont even know what that means, faggot
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>>745981324
>Cyberpunk allows me to create a character to roleplay.
No, it doesn't. It lets you change skin of the static personality of a merc named V. It's the same character no matter the penis a or penis b. It's on the same level of changing hairstyles for Geralt. Virtually same impact on "roleplay." Both arpgs. Sorry, lil' sneed.
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>>745973724
Cyberpunk has an objectively fucking awful open world
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>>745981512
>i dont even know what that means, faggot
Are you that mind broken that you suppressed all the Shazam positing during disaster launch of Cyberpunk? How sad.
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>>745981625
Cyberpunk lets you create a character with different backstory without so strongly defined archetype and personality
It's aRPG, Witcher isn't, simple as
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>>745981705
nta, shazam posting (and that posting in general) was the gayest fucking zoomer thing imaginable, what a terrible fucking era, it was all newfaggots desperately trying to recreate/relive the TORtanic thing from years back
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>>745981705
i had to look it up you dumb fucking animal.
do you really think i give a fuck about retards who expected GTA CYBER??? it was never supposed to be like GTA.
it was its own fucking game and it was GLORIOUS on PC.
dont care about you poor console fags with shit for brains.
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>>745981782
>Cyberpunk lets you create a character with different backstory
Which changes nothing about his personality and has no impact on how you play the game or the role.
It's fluff on the level of carryover tattoo from Witcher 2 to 3. You are always the same merc with the same friend, going on the same heist, for the same reason and with the same consequences. Nothing about your skin selector page affects the role you are playing.
Sorry lil' sneed. Both arpgs.
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>>745973724
CP2077 is dogshit because Night City is based on commiefornia. GTA is always original
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>>745973724
What a dumb troon
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>>745974275
Holocaust tier revisionism
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>>745973724
Cyberpunk is my favorite game of all time, but the city design is garbage. It's just copy and pasted assets everywhere. Every street and building in GTA4 onwards is unique
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>>745974335
I'll never understand why someone buys a game about shooting guns and complains they can't sit in a chair and eat fake food.
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>>745981928
>what a terrible fucking era
It was funny. Sorry CDPRfag for your PTSD that you gain from it.
>desperately trying to recreate/relive the TORtanic thing from years back
And it was recreated. Are you fags trying to do some revisionism on how much of a shitshow the launch was?
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>>745977517
Do you have more of these images?
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>>745982035
>Which changes nothing about his personality and has no impact on how you play the game or the role.
That wasn't the intention, hence the existence of those paths. They simply failed at deepening reactivity
>You are always the same merc
Clearly, you are not, since you can alter those features and your character isn't that defined
>Both arpgs.
Only Cyberpunk is
>>745982173
GTA must be extinguished at any cost
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>>745973724
It's so funny seeing normies use the word "-slop".
They have zero clue where it comes from and what the original meaning was kek
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>>745981946
>do you really think i give a fuck about retards who expected GTA CYBER???
Yeah...? Here is you seething about them? >>745981020
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>>745973724
GTA is madden/CoD/Fifa/Marvel/Mcdonalds tier, Cyberpunk is Counter-Strike/DarkSouls/Diablo/Chipotle tier
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>>745974275
Completely true btw.
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>>745975218
What can I say except thank God you're not on the dev team. I would never want to play a game like that.
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>>745982237
I'm not talking about CDPR. I'm talking about the entire era. Which is what I've said. There was an entire couple years there where it was all just desperation by newfaggots to feel like they belonged.
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>>745982334
you're seething.
i enjoyed cyberpunk.
gay ass nigger faggot.
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Just driving around the city with this running in the background for an hour was bliss
https://youtu.be/ypJHCm0Omao?si=4ocHX1jE7WNZTz7p
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>>745973724
Two huge advantages of Cyberpunk compared to GTA is that the side content is worth playing if you want to get richer and stronger. In GTA V and RDR2, there's no reason to engage with the side content, due to the pitiful amount of money you get compared to the main story.
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>>745982291
>They simply failed at deepening reactivity
So it failed as an arpg. Cool. Both action games then? Your entire premise is that it's arpg BECAUSE you are "choosing" and aspect of character. But when it's pointed out that this aspect affect nothing it suddenly doesn't matter?
Or what is this cope implying lil' sneed?
>Clearly, you are not
You are. You can alter the skin and that's it. Just like you can give the yeye haircut to Geralt. Same impact.
>your character isn't that defined
A retarded lie. V's backstory does not affect his personality in the slightest. It doesn't matter if it's a woman nomad or male corpo. He and she will have the same established personality with the same values through the game.
>Only Cyberpunk is
So is the Witcher by the same metric. Sorry. More kicking from you? Louder screaming? You seem to be very invested individual for a person who has never played the game to begin with >>745978201
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>>745981324
>Because Witcher forces me to be a not only a Witcher

Fallout 3 forces you to be the son of some crazy scientist and forced to be raised in Vault 101.
Fallout 4 forces you to be a dad with a wife and a kid who served in the military
Fallout NV forces you to be a courier tasked with delivering some stupid chip in las vegas.
Skyrim forces you to be a dragonborn who was caught crossing the border
etc etc.

All RPGs force you to be something, otherwise you have no game.
You can just say you hate witcher forces you to be male and move on.
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>>745982213
>I'll never understand why someone buys a game about shooting guns and complains they can't sit in a chair and eat fake food.

Probably because the game was advertised as an RPG with immersive sim elements?
If you had told me from day 1 it was gonna be a first person shooter in which you just drive your car from main story to main story it would have been different.

I was seeing people in this board be so lied by CDPR they genuinely thought they could create their character, play as a detective like Blade Runner, etc.
It wasn't until release everyone started to realize "wait, i have to play as this thug criminal?"
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>>745982963
>blah blah blah blah
NTA, all of those would only be equivalencies if Witcher's entire premise was "you are a witcher from the wolf school, raised to kill monsters"
and then you didn't have an entire fucking 100 year character history and relationships that are exposited upon as pre-existing canon and force fed to you over time
holy fuck you're one stupid nigger and you will never admit you are wrong
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>>745973724
night city must be the souless videogame city of all time
>uhhhm that's what it's supposed to be!
it isn't and even if it were it's shit and I don't like it
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>>745974480
no, the driving is utter shit in cp77, even the city itself suck its just copy pasted assets, not handcrafted like gta
these two games aren't even comparable anyways because cp77 is a RPG and gta is its own genre
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I will say that Geralt is a lot more bearable as a protag despite neither game being an actual role playing experience simply because he's not such a fucking nothing.
V has the disadvantages of both a non-defined and a defined character. There's very little backstory or personality, but at the same time what is there is stuck to very rigidly with no wiggle room. Cyberpunk and Witcher are the same exact game in terms of roleplaying and only someone who hasn't played both can honestly disagree. I mean the most impactful choice you can make is picking your gender since it locks you out of two romances but that's essentially it. The corpo lifepath should be the most distinct, but it's not that at all. Siding with a corpo, rare as it is, will just result in cutting the questline short. Maiko ruling Clouds could be a longterm better ending than leaving the status quo in charge or having everyone get massacred after Judy's plan fails but there's literally 0 follow up for it.
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Love it when western WRPG trannies think a video game RPG is only an RPG if the game handles its gameplay elements EXACTLY like their trashy WRPGs do.

If Minecraft had shitty dialogue options and awkward sex scenes, it would qualify as an "RPG"
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>>745983220
the one time the driving was good all of you faggots bitched for 10 years until they made it as braindead and arcadey as possible, what the fuck do you know about anything?
>even the city itself suck its just copy pasted assets, not handcrafted like gta
this is such an insane load of absolute shit
GTA is "handcrafted" somehow, and Night City is "copy pasted"? How the fuck do you figure?
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>>745973906
Honestly, even GTA IV has an artistic touch to its visuals. You get some matrix like late night storms, some sunrises full of hope, some miserable gray overcast weather, etc. The depiction of LC is very dramatic in GTA IV.
On the other hand, GTA V is pure realism slop and it seems that GTA VI will be the same.
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>>745983285
I just remembered that Witcher 3 and 2 had slides for certain (mostly main story specific but still) quests. Trying to do a Corpo playthrough for Cyberpunk is a lot like trying to do a Northern Patriot playthrough for Witcher 3. Every now and then a dialogue will be available for you that can kind of sound like what you're trying to attempt, but it will be inevitably undermined by a statement out of your control. That's because Geralt doesn't really give a shit about lines on maps and V doesn't like Corpos.
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>>745983131

You're saying an RPG is only an RPG if it gives you NO restriction AND let's you play as a woman.
Nearly no game gives you no restriction, in fact you can't even name any.

So you might as well say you hate Witcher because you can't be a woman and move on
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>>745982562
>I'm not talking about CDPR
I am. Since it was a clear example of a successful Tortanic gang-up that justified the Shazam poster's existence for the next several years. Nothing came close ever since.
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>>745974335
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>>745976373
This. that nigga either didnt play cyberpunk, or played the consolecuck version.
Mods allows you to do all of that. If you play Cyberpunk or Skyrim on console, you are doing it wrong
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>>745983484
>the one time the driving was good all of you faggots bitched for 10 years until they made it as braindead and arcadey as possible, what the fuck do you know about anything?
NTA but what the fuck are you even talking about
The driving in Cyberpunk sucks, everyone just fast travels everywhere. Every fucking car fishtails except for a select few. I used a fucking maimai in my first playthrough because the default car V has is a fucking nightmare
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>>745983583
Almost every corpo dialogue choice in C77 in almost every situation can be summarized as: "Yeah, corpos are going to fuck you over. Trust me"
It's a riveting roleplay.
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>>745983697
Cyberpunk isn't even a particularly moddable game like Skyrim is, it's a total non-sequiteur. Whatever mods 2077 has are almost all cosmetic (because CDPR thinks visible cyberware is lame bullshit)
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>>745983624
>AND let's you play as a woman.
literally no one mentioned this except you
actually, just me saying it would be fine if the extent of the premise of your character was "a witcher", which automatically precludes a female character, is literally the fucking opposite of what you just suggested

YOU
ARE
A
RETARD
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>>745979097
Notice how he stopped responding after this lol. /v/ doesn't play videogames
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>>745982213
>>745983035
Neither Skyrim nor GTA 5 has this btw. You can sit in skyrim but in both games food only serves as hp and has no animation.
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>>745983767
Good point. The Corpo lifepath mission ends in such a way as to make V as resentful of corporations as he is in the other two. And he talks with 0 professionalism or even a hint of being upper class when speaking to his boss or coworkers.
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>>745983717
The drivng was good in GTA4. Everyone bitched until GTA5 came out then praised GTA5's weightless dogshit driving for retarded children.
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>>745983697
>Mods allows you to do all of that.
LMAO
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>>745983943
Well, I can't disagree with you since I haven't played 4. 6 will probably be like that just judging from RDR2.
But Cyberpunk's last ever update added a fucking autodrive function, which says a lot imo.
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>>745973838
what's twitter?
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>>745984040
they added autodrive because being driven around the city by your automated vehicle is FUUUUUTURE and exactly the kind of fucking "immersive roleplay feature" that poeple in this thread bitch about not being included, and which I got called soulless for saying people use once and then ignore, like "MUH CLUBS, MUH RESTAURANTS"
why does GTA have fucking auto drive taxis? must be because the driving is unplayable!
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Night City is just an inherently more fun and interesting setting than Not-Florida or whatever the fuck GTA 6 is supposed to be.
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>>745974275
I like both games and I'd say you're just being pretentious. Why would you want every game to be the same? Why would you want GTA to be like Cyberpunk when you can just play Cyberpunk? I know people just post stupid shit on here for the sake of it, but this is getting ridiculous.
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>>745984263
>"immersive roleplay feature" that poeple in this thread bitch about not being included, and which I got called soulless for saying people use once and then ignore, like "MUH CLUBS, MUH RESTAURANTS"
To be fair a lot of the marketing was focused around NC apparantely being a living city. The Keanu meme was from him spouting bullshit about a map that's probably on par with witcher 3 in those terms.
And if you do check, and I advise you not to, the cyberpunk subreddit that is generally the kind of shit they ask for. It's why we got the metro system (asking devs to add a fucking LOADING SCREEN CUTSCENE TO FAST TRAVEL) and those annoying as fuck dates where you can repeat a few animations then get one automatically ten minutes later.
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>>745983484
>the one time the driving was good all of you faggots bitched for 10 years until they made it as braindead and arcadey as possible, what the fuck do you know about anything?
are you talking about GTA 4's driving? i liked it and hated 5's driving, in 6 tho it seem a lot less arcadey than 5
And yeah its been the same thing with all GTA-likes since GTA 3 they just copy paste building and props thats why it looks soulless, in GTAs every place is unique and instantly recognisable
if you're shown a screenshot from a GTA you know exactly where its been taken, if you're shown a screenshot from CP77 you may know what neighboorhood its in but not the exact place, if that makes sense
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>>745973906
>but do we really have to go so far to the point of contrarianism
yep, chuddies are that desperate for any kind of attention
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>>745973724
Cyberpunk takes advantage of being a fictional city, whereas GTA is just a simulation of a regular cityy. i personally find GTA to be a very boring game. i was always more of a Saint's Row guy.
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Why do CDPR games have like 10 face models total
Mr. Blue Eyes and El Capitan (and the bouncer at the pyramid in the DLC) share the same exact model but Alanah Pearce gets a custom one (for a lifepath specific "mission" consisting of a single dialogue exchange)
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>>745982937
>So it failed as an arpg. Cool.
Yes
>Both action games then?
No
> But when it's pointed out that this aspect affect nothing it suddenly doesn't matter?
>V's backstory does not affect his personality in the slightest.
Correct. Mechanic exists, game was designed to facilitate it, developers failed at implementing meaningful reactivity and choice and consequences. A bad aRPG, but aRPG still.
RPG can let you be an orc, elf, dwarf, but then fail at having npcs respond you accurately since reactivity is not in-depth enough. Still an RPG, just a bad one.
>So is the Witcher by the same metric. Sorry. More kicking from you? Louder screaming?
It isn't because Witcher was never designed to be aRPG, just an Action game.
Yeah I will keep reiterating this point, you keep responding
>>745982963
You are listing Bethesdaslop lol
>>745983395
That's what constitutes a genre, yes
>>745983624
>in fact you can't even name any.
Mount and Blade, Kenshi, Starsector - Pvre cRPGs
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I wish cd projekt just left the witcher behind and focused on cyberpunk instead.
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Remember when people were pissed off when CDprojekt lied about Cyberpunk being a real RPG with role playing and choices and cut out everything and turned it into an adventure game and they also removed all mentions of the game being an RPG post launch? How pathetic that people are kissing their asses today
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>>745985034
I hate this fucking dragonbreak bullshit they're doing with the Witcher 3 ending. I guess they did the same with 2 at the start of 3, but it really is even more egregious to make Nilfgaard winning their invasion or Redania becoming another hegemonic empire a totally irrelevant detail.
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>>745973724
It can be inspired all it wants but the cyberpunk setting will always be ugly trannycore. Can't stand looking at the game for more than 5 minutes.
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>>745985087
The people kissing their asses today are a distinct group, I think. They enjoy the cinematic QTE story and the fact you can pick the order you play the missions in is good enough for them.
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>>745984773
>Mount and Blade, Kenshi, Starsector - Pvre cRPGs

Funny how you named open sandboxes with no story
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Friendly reminder that Cyberpunk lacks options to modify the shape of most of your character's face (forehead, cheekbones, brow etc) because they were worried about rigging it for cutscenes. In the end they decided to never leave first person, despite how much worse it makes the 'cinematic' moments look compared to Witcher 3. A single short scene showing our character in the ending of the game is all we get. They did not however reimplement the abandoned character creation features despite (pretty much) fully abandoning cutscenes featuring V.
To this day /vg/ and any cyberpunk community online subsists of people posting their donut steel V's (same exact personality kek) with the severely gimped CC giving them obvious sameface. Every mod they have just adds more elaborate cyberware.
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>>745984773
>So it failed as an arpg. Cool.
>Yes
So it's an action game. Your entire designated is purely subjective lil sneed. If it's failed as aprg by your own admission then it's not one. Sorry.
>Correct. Mechanic exists, game was designed to facilitate it
So it's not an RPG?
>It isn't because Witcher was never designed to be aRPG
Literally called and sold as an RPG by developers. You good? Again autist, who made you the arbiter of genre labels? To the point where you are pretending that your autistic and subjective differentiation that you can't even keep coherent is the law? What level of sperging am I witnessing? You haven't even played Cyberpunk.
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>>745985528
And btw the fact that their character creator was completely quarter-assed didn't prevent them from using it quite a bit for the marketing. The dick size and circumcision options (impossible to see ingame) probably had more articles written about them than games with actually good character creation engines would dream of receiving.
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>>745985528
i really enjoy that all the Cyberpunk cutscenes are first person. it gives the game a very unique and immersive vibe that other RPGs don't have.
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I don't care how much updates they added, I'm still not playing your game
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>>745985685
I'm okay with a game never leaving 1st person but coupled with the fact that V becomes an anemic slug whenever a cutscene begins it becomes quite tedious to see the close up of various textures while V trips or gets his ass beat or coughs or what have you. Witcher 3 had superior presentation despite being an older game
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>>745981002
Well-written meaning what, exactly?
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>>745974612
Its supposed to be an RPG, why the fuck doesnt an RPG allow you to do immersive shit in it.
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niggas will say Cyberpunk isn't an RPG but they never give examples of games that do the things they claim and RPG is supposed to do...
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>>745982264
Not many but I do enjoy posting this every time cyberniggers get uppity and try to pretend the game is actually good.
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>>745980236
>over human emotions
2077 is rife with human emotion. It is not a one-note lovestory and entry that serves exclusively to introduce people to the series through exposition and revive a failed launch by baiting them with a simple, shallow, highly digestible love story on a hook. I liked Edgerunners but the extent to which people suck its cock is nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUnPH9e3iQM

This little edit is made worse by the facile and out of place scenes from the anime. It's juvenile in comparison.
I do have high hopes for season 2 however. They do not need to spend so much time explaining the world and they're allowed to be more experimental instead of casting as wide a net as possible with the burden of saving a failed game launch.
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Hopefully Cyberpunk 2 city has the density of GTA 6's Vice City
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I like that this thread is a long discussion of what CP2077 should be, because to look at GTA would be admitting that it is the most normalfag IP ever.
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>>745982728
How big si the city in Cyberpunk? I've never played it
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>>745973724
i 100% agree with that tweet. night city was crafted from the human imagination, and with how real it feels they did an incredible job. GTA is just copying reality, and shitty US city reality at that. Why can't GTA have a 2000 story megabuilding that goes above the clouds?
because muh realism? fuck off
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>>745989119
Cyberpunk has something that GTA doesn't
> actually great story
> RPG mechanics
> vibes and immersion

GTA has something that Cyberpunk doesn't:
> city simulator that feels alive
> good third person mode gameplay
> hundreds of mini games and side activities throughout the city
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>>745989132
It's massive. I've been playing with minimap turned off recently, and outside of common areas or places I make an effort to remember, I'm constantly lost.
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2077's problem is the downtown or core part of Night City looks amazing, the fringe parts up north or out of the city look like shit.
>>745989568
The driving model of Cyberpunk is also bad after many patches, you just don't get the same feeling driving in 2077 than you do even in San Andreas, 4 or GTA5. I think another issue is you still will not get car chases from police the same way, the pathfinding is just terrible they will not keep up
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Cyberpunk city is the weakest part of the game
the world feels dead
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>>745989790
yeah, I forgot to mention the GTA police chases, it gets crazy cool with barricades and helicopters. Cyberpunk police chase is pathetic (it got much better as time went on, but still not comparable)
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>>745973724
>only trannies play females in Cyberpunk 2077
so explain this then?
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>>745989790
Japantown looks amazing, and that's up northeast. Industrial looks like shit, but it's the kind of shit that you love if you're into like iterators or German grunge
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>>745990078
He's a queen on the downlow
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>>745976791
>> The dinner you're forced to go into the main quest to talk with the japanese guy
his pic isn't the same diner btw
i say this after not having played the game since 2021. that happens in one of the tom's diner locations, while his pic is in buffalo's. it's not even laid out the same.
>Can you go into one that's not the main quest one?
you can go into every tom's diner, there are many in the game.

like bro, try actually playing the game god damn.
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>>745990172
Its not about shit from a artistic point, but from technical oh the textures are shit. Oh there isn't alot of NPCs over here and the quality of the terrain isn't good. Its like going towards Kerry's house, those hills and rich places are super lackluster for what they should represent
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>>745984638
Chuddies? That’s a trans woman who said that.
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>>745990078
Buck status?
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>>745982728
Flying through traffic on a motorcycle is really fun.
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>>745990925
Seems like an innocent, chill buck, good taste in V's (she's reasonably attractive/cool looking), probably not one to chimp out regularly or cause many problems for people, just a guy in his lane enjoying playing with his doll. Nothing wrong with that. One of them well behaved bucks.
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>>745990867
I guess it’s just a dogshit take them
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>>745973724
>tranny opinion
opinion discarded
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>>745990931
The collision physics is weird, hitting a car at that speed at 0:20 is a guaranteed crash, you don't land like that irl lol
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I uploaded the XBOX Scarlett Project Americas game files here: https://gofile.io/d/dAnzxe1I

one of a kind.
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>>745993661
Wow it's almost like it's a video game that prioritizes fun over realism
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It copied GTA, Prey, Fallout, and Deus Ex and it was worse than each one of them.

I bought the game 2 weeks ago because apparently "they improved it" and the regrets set up right at the first shootout.
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>>745973724
gta mogs cybergunk
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Still haven't played it
Is it fixed yet
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>>745973906
You listed the best three GTA games and the last I played
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what? is GTA VI really worse?
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>>745994637
only if you're a braindead normie
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>>745994762
It's fixed in the sense that there are very few bugs left and the game is running stable now, and there are several reasonably balanced builds that are fun to use in combat.
It won't ever be fixed if you just didn't like the kind of game it is.
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I boughted Cyberpunk on Switch physical. What am I in for?
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>>745994958
It's deus ex with free roam and gay shit isn't it
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>>745995015
you're in for some of the best moments and feels ever made in video game (unironically)
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>>745974735
>. Not surprised you like Cyberpunk 2077 then since it's an extremely linear porn game that allowed you trannies to play as a woman. Congrats on masturbating to Judy
but I used console commands to fuck Judy and Panam in my only playthrough as a guy (with the medium sized penis)!!!
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>>745990470
Ah, that's fair. The whole of the hills is largely unfinished, they had that entire megacenter planned and just scrapped it
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>>745973724
>I agree with and post the opinions of Xitter trannoids
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>
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>>745973724
cyberpunk will always be "netflix: the game" to me, and it makes complete sense why zoomers/weebs glaze it so hard
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Genuinely, no bait, what the fuck was the draw of Cyberpunk? I played for a good bit, and while it was decent mindless fun, it had such a gay protagonist, long boring cutscenes, all the supporting cast were lame (especially the latinx ghoul the game tries to gaslight you into caring about) the world was uncanny and lifeless, every NPC is ugly, and it had FO4 level dialogue choices. Really disappointing for a game based on a literal tabletop RPG. I quit the game around the time they tried to imply haitians were capable of operating a computer.
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>>745999139
I wonder how many people actually clock this kind of larp (derogatory) anymore, or if they're just so desensitized to posers infiltrating their spaces that this kind of subhuman illiteracy is just considered the norm. Any fa/tg/onks can weigh in?
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>>746000082
>NPC can't imagine someone not liking trash
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>>746000082
I don't play tabletop or claim to play, if that's what you're implying. I was just expecting a lot more freedom because in my limited experience, tabletop games let you choose a lot of stuff about your character. But V has a name, an annoying voice... Honestly, that's about it, I can't say V had much of a personality. Not really a blank slate, just a gray one. I love the setting but it was done so poorly I just couldn't bring myself to finish it.
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>>745999139
the game that was marketed was not the game that shipped.
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>>746000336
Not the game, you turd brain, this:
>I quit the game around the time they tried to imply haitians were capable of operating a computer.
Pacificans are just a riff on Zionists from Neuromancer, the (arguably) original cyberpunk novel. Techno-religious islander cliques are a staple of the genre, which one fool
>>746000594
Huh, well on the offchance you're just stupid and racist (if you'll pardon the tautology) instead of deliberately baiting, you might wanna educate yourself before airing your ignorance for all to see. It's a bit embarrassing for people who share your other opinions (the game is indeed lacking in life).
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>>746001486
* which any fule kno
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>>745973724
I can't stand any Eastern European games. They always have to add forced pseudointellectually philosophical conversations with a bunch of characters.
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>>745973724
"She" likes it because CP is trans-friendly.
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>>745974335
TRXK3 N3K3 DA THIRD
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>>745990867
>degenerate troon who takes dildos up his shithole and "goons" with his discord pals loves Cyberpunk 2077 and uses the term "realismslop"

Who would've thought? I didn't even have to look at the profile, you can instantly tell
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>>745973724
i have realismslop fatigue.
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Cyberpunk had potential but it was mind numbingly boring outside of doing missions
Watchdogs 2 comes closer to scratching the open world cyberpunk itch because it’s actually fun to just dick around with your hacks and shit in that game



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