This week marks the REDEEMING of Dragon's Dogma 2.
When you think about it is Battahl a stand in for India?
the engoodening is comingblasts will be had, forms will be returned
>>745974631Millions shall blast
>>745974631no replay until hard mode is out
>>745974787it's south asia combined with south america with persian roman gimmicks here and there
>>745974631Dark Arisen doesn't come out until October
I will sample the six skills patch on many new characters, decide my main, then ignore the game until hardmode is out, to do a level 1 solo bbi run on hardmode, just like the olden days.
>>745974631NO NOT REDEEM BLOODY BENCHOD
>dragon's dogma 2 is already 2 years oldfuuuuuuck
>>745975226i probably should have farmed up a max level character, oh well. i had like 2 years to do it
>>745975348remember the hype?
>>745975436I do. In a way DD2 felt like DMC 2 to me symbolically. I'm nowhere near implying DD2 is as bad a game as DD2 but I just felt like it fell short in to many things that should have been major home runs. To the point where I wonder what the actual fuck Itsuno was thinking. DD:DA has been a cult classic for over a decade, but the decisions made when making DD2 feels like they had absolutely zero idea of what people actually enjoyed about it. The armor system is the biggest example because of how bad it is. Three armor slots, some armor 'sets' cannot be equipped by the same class, very hit and miss designs, and it feels like there's even more class restrictions than there was in DD1. And for what, to shill Warfarer?
No striderNo buy
>>745975752DD2 is as bad a game as DMC2*
The focus on ox carts and immersion was the red flag for me that it was gonna be shit, if only shitokino could have been there mid development
>>745975752for me, it's the lack of any interesting dungeons
We need more pawn lines, my pawn was driving me insane with all the repeated linesAlso less open world garbage but it's probably not the direction the DLC is headed towards, I hope it's as replayable and as hard as BBI
>>745975976>if only shitokino could have been there mid developmenthe's literally the gameplay lead, he's been there since day 1
>>745976131>hope it's as replayable BBILiterally any level of content they do would meet that requirement, BBI is only a single very short dungeon.
>didn't add rock climbing where harpies will try to make you fall to your death or expand on the weather thing like how mountain tops are more windy in dd1 to make the traversal itself more interesting>instead add ox carts to just skip the traversing itself
>>745976236He obv had no control over "the vision" until itsuno left
>>745976518In a lot of ways DD2 feels as unfinished as 1
>>745977171DD1 at least had finished vocations and skills and didn't need to add the missing skills in an update
>>745977516>finished vocations>mystic knightyeah no
>>745977852>MK>any less finished than any DD2 vocation
>>745977852Feels more fleshed out than some of the vocations in DD2. Strider and Ranger were gutted and Thief/Archer are poor replacements. Archer got the shortest end of the stick imaginable.
>>745974631I'm doing my last playthrough of DD1bsfore jumping to DD2, I'm planning to play the entire game with red vocations, what are some nice equipments and weapons I can grab early on?
why is /v/ so reddit about mystick knight I'm playing it in DD1 and it's just a shit version of warfarer
>>745977516Sounds like you didn't even play the first game. It's wild to make this post when Warrior exists.
>>745978317It shines when shit hits the fan, especially if you are good at perfect blocks
>>745978383Just never cared about warrior, simple as.
i refuse to play warrior in dd2 because the armor selection is 100% putrid dogshit
>>745978317It has 1 cool skill in stone jungle and magic parries basically nobody here ever used. Spearnigga is way cooler
>>745978556Fagwarer doesn't even play like a spear vocation, it's basically thief with teleports
>>745978240Bastard sword from Caxton's questLongsword from Sir Berne'sChimeric armor at Soulflayer's Canyon
>>745974631It's can't be redeemed.The damage can be somewhat mitigated though.
>>745978853Its weapon is even specifically a DUOspear, which is the equivalent of two daggers (the thief weapon) attached to a stick.
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>>745975752DD2 definitely has issues but I do think too many people only consider DD1 with DLC VS without. Like DD1 was still good and had a lot of unique dungeons and vista's but even DD2 has those as well just not in as great an amount. The biggest issues for me with DD2 is the story retroactively fucks the entirety of the original lore regarding the Seneschal sustaining the world, the dragon being worse, no post game superboss and WORST of all the final boss is a fucking interactive cutscene.Yes, I'm aware the boss fight against Savan wasn't particularly hard but that's not the point. This is the type of borderline dogshit stuff that people harp on final bosses being QTE's for. It's fucking lazy, especially when Grigori 2.0 was a shit fight.
I'm so fucking hyped to unlock all the new vocations.
There are too many vocationsThey should reduce the number of vocations to four and merge the other vocations into them
>>745978853It doesn't play anything like thief. No dodges and lots of magic ranged attacks.
>>745981702Yeah I get it but ultimate "without DLC" argument is weak because the DLC exists and people loved it. Why not look at why people loved it? Or just what they loved about the game in general? If people loved BBI why not put something akin to it in the base game. Or shit, make the base game not baby braindead easy OR basic NG+ scaling.
>>745974631dead game
>>745981702>the original lore regarding the Seneschal sustaining the worldThe Seneschal has the same role in the second game. The role's only job was to perpetuate the cycle and create another Seneschal because if it doesn't continue the world degrades, it's essentially only a willpower grinding machine. The first game is solely about the cycle itself, while the second game shows us what happens when it is broken. Hence the "unmoored" world.>the dragon being worseThe dragon is exactly the same in the second game too. It just has less cool presentation because it's no longer a red herring epic final boss.
>>745983063No, the Seneschal thing is fucking retarded because another Arisen wouldn't be needed in the cycle if Roathis is somehow sustaining the world. The whole 'He's just that strong' argument is fucking stupid since the whole notion of the cycle in 1 was that it was a necessarily evil to keep existence in check due to the world needing a Seneschal as a will battery. Introducing the Pathfinder is all kinds of fucking dumb since now you're attributing a necessarily evil to the motivations of a person who now needs to have sufficient motivation for doing all of these things. Which is what exactly? Because the game does a fucking terrible job at that. Because he's evil and wants to keep things the same? Wow, great fucking villain motivation. Thanks for removing all moral ambiguity so some spooky fuck can wax philosophical. Why exactly is Roathis any different that any other Seneschal? Why can he come down to Earth and just decide to get rid of his invisibility cloak and fuck around in the human world and also sustain existence far more than any other before him? Never explained. The ambiguity of the first worked for this reason.>The dragon is exactly the same in the second game too. It just has less cool presentation because it's no longer a red herring epic final boss.Exactly. Grigori has a purpose in 1 to guide you to breaking the cycle. In 2 it's pointless since you already know. Also the fight is far fucking worse and Grigori is far better at conveying ending the cycle. The whole subversion of 'A hero slays a dragon' story worked far better in the original. The story is insanely fucking retarded.
>>745982168Is that what the vocations actually look like in game? The inconsistency of the background gives me autism.
>>745983819Yeah, the core of it is supposed to be Red=Melee, Blue=Magic, Yellow=Archery.The darker shade is the Alternative/Advanced version, and the split colors are hybrids of roles.Green and Purple are new outliers in 2. They really only made Thief because Strider in DD1 was the do-everything melee+ranged class that basically invalidated the fighter classes.That Trickster has two shades of purple is fucking retarded and is majorly the culprit for all of the pre-release believing there would be a bunch of new hybrid vocations with the Thief and whatever the "core" vocations the trickster would be based on.
>Blasts?Had>Forms?Returned>Growing?On me>Arisen?Really makes me feel likeYup, it's Dogma time.
>>745974631Crimson Desert blasted this stupid game the fuck out
>>745974631>nerfed enemies>buffed player and pawns, smarter ai, more skill slotsHow is this supposed to improve the game? Its just going to be even easier and extra boring. DLC + hardmode is all that matters
>>745984209I actually meant more just the grain pattern. Warrior and sorcerer looks like resolution. I think actually that picture is from before it got released while people were still coping so that's probably all it is. And there's no way fighter would just look totally different to anything else the way that picture makes it out to be.
>>745984418But what about the wind?
>>745974631How is the base game?
>>745974631CAN ANYONE IN THESE FUCKING THREADS TELL ME WHERE THE DLC STARTS?! I HAVE ASKED COUNTLESS FUCKING TIMES
>>745983798Yeah. I wonder how much of this is due to a bad translation but ultimately I feel the same. The story in DD2 is just to convoluted to give a shit about. It doesn't make sense in the context of DD1, and honestly going into a story with the idea that the player already knows something is a very stupid way to write. You pretty much laid out every problem I had with characters like Rothais on the Pathfinder.
>>745984853I don't think anyone really knows but we'll likely learn more on Wednesday at GamesCon.
>>745978317/v/ is notorious for picking the most unplayed, hipster option when it comes to games
>>745983798You're just making up reasons to be mad. There's no indication in the first game that the Seneschal can't just go uncloaked and found another kingdom if they want to forgo fulfilling their role, and there's no indication that Roathis is unique at all beyond him losing the desire to sustain the cycle after the fact. Many Arisens have failed against the dragon and all the previous seneschals too because the only requirement is having the willpower to fight for something in the first place. Daimon didn't even reach the point of Seneschal and his willpower alone was enough to tear a rift in space and time. And the Pathfinder literally says outright that he didn't create any of the cycle.>The whole subversion of 'A hero slays a dragon' story worked far better in the original.Yeah, which is why the second game didn't do that. Getting mad about them not doing it a second time is retarded.
>>745974631Fuck yeah. Can't wait to actually have more spells to use at a time!
>>745982168God trickster was so fucking unnecessary
Has the character creation update come out yet? Been kind of busy with life so I haven't been keeping up. Or is that part of the DLC? (or released seperately on the same day)
>>745984942Oh ok. I saw people mentioning level requirements and assumed there would be more info, thanks anon
>>745985023So was Warfarer. I don't care if it's an unpopular take, but you have reduced resistances/stats as Warfarer and it feels like the only reason Itsuno put the class in the game was so people could wear any armor they wanted.
no one talks about the thing that pisses me off the most about this game>character body mass actually influences how big armor looks on your characterit looks so fucking retarded
>>745985197Warfarer was put in to make leveling trickster viable by letting you swap to a weapon lmao
>>745984710We'll see when the DLC comes out. Till then, it's just a pleasant breeze.
>>745985197Warfarer exists because cross classing is fun
>>745984982>You're just making up reasons to be mad.No, you're just upset I actually question and point out the inconsistency in the sequel you retard.> There's no indication in the first game that the Seneschal can't just go uncloaked and found another kingdom if they want to forgo fulfilling their role, and there's no indication that Roathis is unique at all beyond him losing the desire to sustain the cycle after the fact.They literally state in the fucking game that Rothais killed multiple Arisen who came after him. Why is he so special he can defy the cycle? Never explained. He's just that badass apparently that he can sustain all of existence whilst returning to earth. You can't explain why he is the exception to the cycle beyond the introduction of the pathfinder. The whole point is that Seneschal in 1 are separated from earthly affairs. Otherwise Savan would just come down once to you once you had enough will and let you kill him. >And the Pathfinder literally says outright that he didn't create any of the cycle.I don't remember this but then that makes even less sense since only with the implication he some how above the cycle does Roathis and him fucking with the cycle to make a new Arisen make sense otherwise why is a new Arisen needed? You don't need another Arisen unless you need a new Seneschal or the prior one failed. Otherwise there is 0 reason to have a new Arisen if Roathis is capable of remaining one to keep existence in check. >Yeah, which is why the second game didn't do that. Getting mad about them not doing it a second time is retarded.>They didn't do it but you still have to kill GrigoriOkay retard, how does that work? You still have to kill the dragon and only by having a Godsbane from Roathis before hand can you technically make it so no Seneschal exists. But then if the Pathfinder has no ability to mess with the cycle how can he make you return after killing Grigori 2.0? How does the world not end with no Seneschal?
>no new vocationslol lmao
>>745985880>They literally state in the fucking game that Rothais killed multiple Arisen who came after him. Why is he so special he can defy the cycle? Never explainedHe has more will it doesn’t need to be explained. Do you want them to introduce dogmachlorians?
>>745974631i don't want to play through the dogshit base game again to get to the dlc man
>>745984853i read some article somewhere some time ago from an interview that said that apparently the dlc quest starts in vernworth
>>745974631>Still has the same shit combat with auto lock on>No new vocationsYeah no
>>745974631Are the pawns going to get the 6 skill slots as well? That would be incredibly fucking useful
so can i buy discord revengeposting? like if i want to shitpost some game i can just hire some retards and they just flame the game for years?
>>745978317You can put 2 or 3 Magic Cannon orbs in a bundle and bash them all to shoot a SHIT TON of homing magic, I think they gain your weapon element too.
>>745975348Holy shit you're right. It feels like I played it on release 4 months ago, but its actually 2 years+ damn.
>>745986404Nice job not addressing anything else I said you fucking moron. The point is that adding something that is the exception to the rules established prior makes zero sense.How the fuck is that analogy remotely comparable? Star Wars tried to explain something that doesn't need explaining and still works without explaining. Dragons Dogma 2 introduced something that contradicts the prior game WITHOUT explaining. One is a prequel and the other is a sequel which means you can't create something further in canon and not explain it since it has to account for what comes before. Your analogy fails on a fundamental level since they aren't even comparable, kill yourself you retard mongrol and don't waste my time when you have room temperature IQ.
>>745986404And it does need explaining. Otherwise there is zero stakes for the cycle and would completely undermine the tension of it if anyone can just defy it through enough will. Actually try and understand how story telling works before you're actually makes me nauseous with how fucking retarded you are.
>>745986984>The point is that adding something that is the exception to the rules established prior makes zero senseThe entire point of 2’s plot is that the cycle has gone off the rails because of one freakishly strong Seneschal and you’re sitting here asking>but WHY is he strong!?!?Because he is? So what do you want a power level scanner for the Arisen?
>>745987107Here's your last (You), you retarded shitskin. Pearls before swine.
>>745987094>anyone can just defy it through enough will.Ok but not everyone has enough will? The same reason not anyone can be Arisen? People have different amounts of will in this setting, most characters inhabiting the world are literal NPCs acting out their role.
>>745974631putting lipstick on a pig is not redemption. DD2 will never be better than DD1.
>>745986875DD2 augural flare, saggitae (forgot what its called), holy furor (magic archer thing), thundermine, freezing vortex thing (sorcerer), and flaming vortex thing (magic archer) all brutally mog magick cannon.
I'm not redeeming anything, actually I'm going to wait for the inevitable huge discount sale.
>>745987249I don't know man. I've seen some pretty sexy pigs.
>>745987249Already is with mods
oldfags are so beta about this one game. I'd hate to find out they've been giving other fandoms similar treatment. DD2 is good, the hate is literally grasping at straws, they don't even play the game they call "better" they just refuse to play it and refuse to let anyone like the games they aren't playing.
>>745985880>They literally state in the fucking game that Rothais killed multiple Arisen who came after him.The Sensechals can fight like normal. You literally fight one normally and can even die to the Seneschals in the first game too. The sole requirement for being an Arisen is just having the willpower to stand against the dragon, there is no guarantee they'll actually be notably strong.>He's just that badass apparently that he can sustain all of existence whilst returning to earthHe isn't sustaining existence, literally the entire plot of the second game and why the Pathfinder is here in the first place is due to the fact that he wasn't doing that.>why is a new Arisen needed?To usurp Roathis and sustain the cycle because Roathis is not doing that job anymore.>Okay retard, how does that work?The dragon is a part of the process and that process was interrupted. In the first game the cycle is gone through normally without issue, in the second game the Seneschal halted the cycle and locked the role away from anyone who manages to prove themselves against the dragon. Furthermore in present day the dragon is summoned prematurely by a human instead of at the ordained time where they'd be offered the deal, again breaking the cycle even further.
>>745978440>Just never really experienced DD1, simple as.
>Human>Male>FighterYeah time to play the DLC
>>74598742560% of these threads are inhabited by bad faith posters who will hop between posing and flaming as a DD1 fan and a DD2 fan so both sides eat each other alive, sometimes they pose as "fans" of other franchises i.e. TES, Crimson Desert etc.>I'd hate to find out they've been giving other fandoms similar treatment.I have bad new for you, this shithole is an asylum.
>>745987348What mods are worth installing? Assuming they update them for the big update/xpac.
>>745974631It's gonna be disappointing if there won't be actual Bitterblack Isle experience there. I enjoyed DD2 for what it was but after so many years Capcom really fuck it up... I'm playing Crimson Desert now, and if this title got DD atmosphere and fights with big monsters who have as good character designs it would be GOAT
>>745987769lmao that makes more sense, their arguments just felt like SEO slop, almost AI generated.
>>745987886Everything from this guy https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/817?tab=description
>>745987259Well yeah 0_o skills in DD2 were cooler than in DD1. The first post asked why anons liked Mystic Knight, in a time when DD2 did not exist yet. Another cool choice way back then was using Magick Archer's Ricochet arrow to melt any enemy in enclosed spaces, but it was completely useless outdoors. Glad they kept it for DD2, wish that Gicel made it back into the spells but that one was left out of the second game for some reason
>>745987886the mod that makes Warfarer actually cycle between every class is a must pick, but just look at the "popular" and "updated" lists and browse
>>745986473That's what i was hoping for. Have a ng++ ready to go
>>745982168This image has got me so hyped for the DLC there are going to be so many secret unlocks, this week is gonna be a blast.
I don't know what class to play, I already played all the ones that were interesting. They really should have given us something new.
>>745974631If Hard Mode is like it was in the first game, it’ll be really fun because the gear is much more useful and has more uses than in the first game. The problem with DD1 is that it had a lot of niche crap that wasn’t usable in gameplay unless you handicapped yourself. DD1 was all about Peripriats and Blastarrows loops. DD2 has niche interactions that are actually meaningful. Even the revamped class system is better. Although bow classes are still objectively better than the other classes.
>>745987470Warriorfags are all dark souls colossal sword using rapefugees, Dragons dogma is a daggers bow and magic series
When's the patch coming out, blastfags?
What I want more than anything is replayability, a reason to open the game every now and then. The pawn system is so fucking cool yet when your game has a clear ending there is no reason to or way to stick around and keep engaging with it.
>>745987769Every single thread has to deal with retards like this, it's a shame you can't just sit down and talk about games any more. We've always had trolling but it used to be funny or focused in specific topics of discussion, this isn't trolling though, it's targeted and deliberately trying to shut down discussion of anything and everything.
>>745974631not playing it again, they already wasted their launch, the returning players to the dlc won't be as many as launch, they already fucked me over once with the massive downgrade that was 2, they still haven't put a reasonable level cap to have a shared endgame summon pool like at level 200 in dd1i'm going to buy the dlc for 2 in a few years on sale and play it with my pawn and the rook pawn because multiplayer is dead anyways
>>745990681That’s why you need your game to be easily moddable. You can add 100x as much content as vanilla Skyrim with mods and guess what? many people still play that game.DD2 was forgotten in two months. Zero replayability value and no mods to add something so you can keep replaying.
>>745987769kill yourself faggot, just because you like eating up the downgraded slop that is dd2 doesn't mean actual fans of dd1 can't complain about it
>>745987470warrior was a lolcow vocation in 1 with 1 useful skill and if you wanted to actually have good stats you'd need to play assassin for 200 levels until you finally got to play warrior
>>745990621capcom says end of august, but we're getting a DDDA2 showcase on 26th
>>745990995Uh no, that's not what I was inferring at all. DD2 is a fun game, same as DD1, but NEITHER game utilizes it's greatest feature which is the pawn system to it's fullest. They milk the everliving fuck out of MH games with constant updates keeping people coming back, literally anything would be fun in DD games. Steal ideas from ARPG leagues, add Bitterblack style dungeons here and there, just give us a reason to keep logging in so the pawn system can keep running.
>>745990681>What I want more than anything is replayabilitydd1 had that, too bad you missed that one>>745991015>warrior was a lolcow vocation in 1 with 1 useful skillkill yourself faggot, warrior was fine and all you faggots would always bitch, fighter was literally just dragon maw spam, i fucking hate faggots like you that don't even like playing melee characters and you shit on them because you don't want them to play like a melee character anymore, it had issues like fighting ur dragon as warrior but it was no where near as bad as you faggots keep repeating
>>745990927>filteredlegit who gives a fuck about hires most farm RC from endgame anyways.
>>745991187>legit who gives a fuck about hiresthanks for admitting you're a dd2 tourist>inb4 you're some faggot who wants dd2 to have co-op
>>745991143>dd1 had that, too bad you missed that oneNot really, and no I didn't miss it. BBI was only a temporary gameplay extension to an already short game. It was welcome and lots of fun but it too had a very clear point which there was nothing left to do.
>>745982168did they actually say they were going to add new vocations? no, right? it's just a few more skills?
>>745991273>bro thinks he's on the team.Nothing quite as cucked as not playing the game you paid for after level 20 because of dopamine hit from suboptimal hires.
/v/ screamed and spat on me when I said the DD2 reveal was troubling. The lack of new enemies, the uneasy "tech demo" feeling, even the music being a low effort copy and paste job.The warning signs were all there.
>>745991379>Not reallytourist>he didn't do his several bbi runs>he didn't do his purifications>he didn't post his pawn in the threads and hire other anons pawns>he didn't farm undead drakes or death to send other anons rccope all you want it's way more endgame stuff than we got in base game 2
It's genuinely impressive how much the game nosedives in quality after you finish the first region and get to the desert. I see people mention the monster roster a lot but I honestly think the bigger issue is how pitiful the number of meaningful and engaging quests there are.
>>745991546And yet there's still an end, even if you stretch that out for a month or two you still run out of things to do. Again, compare it to how they treat MH with new monsters, entire new progression tiers, and even crossovers and seasonal events.I get that you're a diehard DD1 fanboy but you have to understand that neither game is perfect here and trying to incite a civil war between the two games only makes you look like a neanderthal that should have their internet access revoked.
>>745991461>suboptimal hiresi hired and got hired by a bunch of anons at launch actually, dd2 is still shit compared to 1 tho>level 20i hit level 100 which is more than 99% of the players probably
>>745987889nope, nobody wants your slop
>>745991510And you were wrong, so we were right to ignore your posts.
>>745991740>by endgame things to do he's referring to constant live service updatesholy fucking zoomie kill yourself
post Pawns
>>745991510It ended up on par with the original in it's release form, minus the performance issue. The disappointment stems from it's horrendously unfinished state, the world design and the general ideas are good, it just isn't all there.Still an enjoyable experience but obviously not what was hoped for.
>>745991873https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTNfuztCMgMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaV-rEo67YGo on. Say the second one is better. Do it, pussy.
>>745991950It took you five fucking posts to understand what was being said and you still misinterpreted it, actually fucking amazing.
>>745991510i just really wanted the game to be good man, but it was all so fucking shameless>rook's here again>the dragon's here again>we rushed the story again>not grigori fight again>btw the dlc will be called dark arisen 2, do you rike?
>>745992052shut up faggot your one example was content from the live service updates monster hunter gets>new monsters, entire new progression tiers, and even crossovers and seasonal events.learn to speak english then kill yourself
so what the hell was the Brine and why did it turn into a dragon?
Remember when doomers didn't believe in the DLC? I remember.
>>745992148It's not my fault you cannot understand what is being said, should I reference roblox and tiktok for you instead?
>>745992254>still can't clarify his point because he knows that's exactly what he was sayingkeep talking around the point because you got called out for being an illiterate nigger
I like how the cover art of the game shows a literal who, an armor set you couldn't obtain, and your supposed romance npc that gets ditched early on.
>>745974631Will the DLC have more sexy armors? All I see is very ugly purple colors and full cover winter clothes
>>745974631Loved my first couple playthroughs, looking forward to DLC and hard mode, game definitely needs both and some more.
>>745992314>an armor set you couldn't obtain,actually pretty funny how stupid that was
>>745992328Needs pubes
>>745992292I guess you're just going to have to learn to read then pal, take it slow, follow the reply chain and you'll figure it out.
>>745992314They eventually added that armor to the game, but yes it's kind of silly the game launched without it.
>>745991873>webro your'e alone
>>745991807I do, CD is sick and getting a huge DLC this year as well. Both games are good feel free to suck a cock.
>watching no one reply every single dd2 thread when someone asks for pawns because no one plays this game
>>745992494Nah he’s right
>>745991873kill yourself
>>745992535We already played it a couple years ago and our pawns are all most likely level 100+.
>>745992535you can't afford my pawn
>>745982168And anons will ask "Wait, there is more?" and then they will find that in fact, there is even more
>>745992535ddg
>>745992680>We already played it a couple years ago and our pawns are all most likely level 100+.yeah okay fag go check the /vm/ thread, you see the same names at launch and some of those fuckers are at most level 130 with 1 autistic retard that's like level 500 or some shitfucking no one was playing this game after launch until the dlc got announced
How come Monstie Hunter always got its shit together while DD2 shit the bed repeatedly?
>>745992768not even remotely as active as it was with ddda
>>745984674Hardmode in the original game was actually easy mode since you would level so fast and have so much money that the only time you will face a challenge will be the first 10 minutes
>>745992794>Wilds>having anything togetherIt’s how I know you’re a discord troon
>>7459927942 years is nothing is better than what happened to wilds
>>745992854i don't know if you've noticed but 4chan in general is 10x less active than it was 10 years ago
>>745992785People really just lie like this all the time lmao
>>745992981>i don't know if you've noticed but 4chan in general is 10x less active than it was 10 years agoksg still has a general, ddg got kicked off vg because it couldn't outdo ksg, face the facts the game is trash compared to 1 or people would be playing it
>>745991143>it had issues like fighting ur dragon as warrior but it was no where near as bad as you faggots keep repeatingYeah, and harpies, and gorecyclops, and daimon, and bishops, and death, and garms, and basically everything but goblins
>>745992931>>745992962As much as you hysterical faggots scream bloody murder over every single new MH iteration, it's still a massive success. DD2 didn't even try to innovate in any meaningful way and the game suffered massively for it. In fact the IP is fucking dead and buried once Dark Arisen is out. Capcom will wash its hands clean and walk away.
>>745993123>and gorecyclops, and daimon, and bishops, and death, and garms, and basically everything but goblinsliterally all of those you would fight the EXACT SAME WAY as fighter/strider/assassin by climbing them and hitting their weak point retard (except you'd have a climbing damage skill with strider/assassin)i farmed daimon heaps with warrior and it was just 4x periapts like every other class and then you just climbed on his head. hit him a few times, phase 2 starts, jump on his head again, hit him again, keep hitting to cancel the vortex, then hit him until he dies (you don't even have to jump on him more than like twice if you have the stamina consumables)thanks for proving you actually didn't even play ddda
>>745992528only one game is good and its not your slop
>>745993146>it's still a massive successYeah that's why Capcom needed to explain to the shareholders they aren't giving up on Wilds despite lackluster sales projection. It wasn't even in their top 10 last quarterly report IIRC. Wilds was a disaster that sold on good faith and World/Sunbreak hype.
>>745993371You want to talk about sales? Let's pull up some numbers, little man.
>>745992535I don't beg for hires. I look down on people who do actually. My hires are earned through usefulness and hotness.
>>745992314I did romance her and even got the sex scenes. Absolute skill issue on these haters.
>>745993837>I don't beg for hires. I look down on people who do actually.okay, thanks for just straight up admitting you didn't play ddda with anons i guess
>>745993894You're welcome and maybe you'd fell better if you cried about it. I'll give you that one for free.
>>745993892>bragging about being a welfare recipient
>>745992206I talked to someone who denied it even after the 30GB patch or whatever. All that data had to be for something.
>>745993576New Dino Crisis when?
>>745975436All they had to do was make DD1 but finished
>>745993974wut
>>745993964>and maybe you'd fell better if you cried about it.the type of comment made by a dude raised by 2 moms
/v/ won't admit it but the cooking FMVs were the biggest red flag in DD2
>>745994210SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>745975752Agree with>>745976010It feels unfinished the way it released because it had nothing like bitterblack. Dragons dogma needed that big dungeon to give it an engaging endgame, it's why I never hit max level in DD1 before DA and also didn't go past 150 in DD2.The ruined world endgame is a step towards it but just not quite there with how you're encouraged to play it safe and rush it.
>>745994210>love the detailed non-dango monhun food>hate seeing the raw meat over and over in dd2
>>745990927>not playing it again, they already wasted their launch, the returning players to the dlc won't be as many as launch,none of that is my problemI purposely withdraw from AAA games launch releases and only buy them 3-4 years later when the game is fully patched and the base game + DLCs are all 75% off.Thanks for betatesting launchfags
>>745992785Should people be playing every single game at all times?
>>745994210I love them, FMVs are soulful as hell. Only zoomers hate them.
>>745995638slurp that itsuno knob
>>745987886Bestiary is mandatory. Most of that guys other mods are extremely good too.
>>745987107 >>745987157>but WHY is he strong!?!?Because the Level isn't capped at 200 anymore.He's Lv. 999
>>745992535>2012 + 14>this frogtranny actually thinks anyone sane will post their waifupawn here so she can get defiled by /v/ermin bastards
That's a cope
>>745995686zoom zoom
>>745982168I'm ready to be disappointed
>>745992794Why do people pretend that DD2 is bad?
>>745995978Bizarro post
>>745992794Despite how much potential DD has had MH is their favorite child and their leadership is old and unable to see it.
>>745996163>potential
>>745981702Arguing that the sequel should be judged against the famously bad and unfinished vanilla game is some crazy nonsense.
>>745996228Yes, do you know what that term means?
>warfarer with true warfarer mod>warrior skills on one weapon set>magick archer skills on the otherYep it's gaming time
>>745985197>So was Warfarer.only reason i played it was to be able to wear whatever i want, didn't even use multiple weapons at once
>>745996228
>>745996647I really like Warfarer, the game baked in a few skills from the first game into the core moveset of each weapon in the second.Cycling through all nine vocations' weapons in an order that basically alternated melee-ranged-melee... with "only three skills" to use among them was more than enough to give you utility for any situation.
>>745996647Yeah it's just a dumb reason. Why make class restrictions on armor even worse than DD1 whioe offering less armor? To attempt to fix a problem you made with poor decisions?
>>745993576World, Rise, and Wilds is pulling all the weight here worldwide.
Do you think the game will actually become worth playing?
>>745974631I still don't know if I should finish my playthrough on PS5. I logged back on after two years and find out my pawn got no hires. Apparently they move you to a deactivated pool if you're gone too long. Fucking still pisses me off. Anyways, please rent my pawn.
>>745974631Need no redeeming Always love vanilla dd1 and vanilla 2Only low iq subhuman thinks that bbi "fixed" dragon's dogma You want more bbi then go play play ddon bbm mode
>>745997879For a subhuman faggot?No
I really do wonder what Itsuno was thinking by putting 99% of the best equipment in the game in vendors. How do you fail a basic concept like rewarding exploration.
>>745992021Eh, I like the first one more but it definitely wouldn't fit 2's soundscape. 1 was all about big bombast, electric guitars blazing, choir blaring etc. 2's music is more understated in general while in 1 it was more front-and-center. Reprise feels bigger and more triumphant compared to the rest of the game's soundtrack so it stands out more in the soundscape even if it's not as good when you compare the two side-by-side.
Does this game still let you pause heal and chug your entire inventory at once to get out of situations?
>>745999130I too hate sovl and want everything watered down for modern audiences.
>>745993146>DD2 didn't even try to innovate in any meaningful wayEnemies are platforms.
>>745998992>Get gear from shops>Get upgrade materials from exploration and killingWas the likely intention
>>745997420fair but i just never cared about playing multiple vocations at once in the first place>>745997779yeah i miss all the different underarmors
>>745999245I'd argue the the original End of the Struggle is more appealing for modern audiences.2's approach is more of an acquired taste. Not to say better, though.
>>745999245kek
>>745992021Now post the real version you should mod in for both games https://youtu.be/-J9pcprLTN0?si=Ou7snPFXrKAU8pMf
>>745999208Yes, that's what most ARPGs do. They should just take cues from Monster Hunter and implement real time healing.
>>745999752Real-time healing wouldn't really work with DD's chaotic combat.
>>745999719Bro, what? Hell no. The guitar here is far too overpowering. The kick drum through the whole thing doesn't help either. The original is perfect.
>>745974631>can't go on dates with the whore after her quest>can't go on dates with disa to cuck the bad guyThe dlc did not fix my issues with the game so I shall not waste my time with it.
>>745999450that's fine for like basic gear, but the really good shit should be found through exploration
>>746000314You find the good gear through exploration like the Bane of Bones.
>>745999582No? Normgroids want DD to be like Skyrim. The electric guitar gave DD the extra spice that made it stood out.
I wonder if people know the point of gear is to treat the game like tactics ogre.>customize all three pawn's equipment.>use them for as long as you can>swap them out
>go on a trip with just my main pawn>4 bosses decide to jump usIf it wasn't for the nearby wandering pawns, I'm pretty sure this would've been a game over.
>>746000314Sexiest Warrior armor is also only available through exploration. Although I have no problem with making the money worth something with valuable shop items.
I like dd2 more in some area like open world adventure, pawns, better vocation progression, dynamic physics based combat, better fast travel system(oxcart), post grigori area and true pawn endingI just wish it got a proper hardmode with few new enemies and some decent overworld dungeon like wateralter and catacomb
Whats the point of this thread, dlc comes out in october
>>746000596Oh, now you're talking about normalfags...? We're both a part of the modern audience and we both prefer the original. I don't want it to be more like Skyrim, I just want it to fit the game, and I think normalfags would generally agree.
Should I go into ng+ or just wait before the unmoored world
i never see any webms of this game
>>746002012retard
>>746001740"Big Patch" allegedly coming some time this week.
>>746002012its cuz i dont really care to post in /v/ dd threads
>>745992535I'm waiting for the dlc to play again, ill post my pawn then
>load save>unmoored world Yeah nah I'm starting a new save when the update releases.
Warrior feels like such fucking dogshit in DD2 I genuinely consider jump attack spam from DD1 to be a massive improvement>why yes how did you know i wanted to have the mobility of a snail and excessive recovery animations?
>>745987886Not many people mention it, but Guild Contracts is a must have for me. https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1341Adds an Adventurers guild to the game you can take jobs from with ranks and everything, i believe it's compatible with Bestiary too
>>746003103>Play the slow and bulky class>WOAAAAAOOOOOOW WHY AM I SO SLOW AND BULKYretard
I hate how they got rid of Pawns being healed by standing near Riftstones
>>746004367That's actually a fair point. it's weird. Like there are some objective improvements to the open world, the pawn AI, the combat and the oxcart actually being usable, but they got rid of some useful shit like the MK class and pawns healing when near a rift stone. I don't even think it's intentional so much as this game is blatantly unfinished for one reason or the other.
>>746004802I'm half convinced Mystic Knight was removed because Magic Cannon would make the game drop to single-digit fps.
>>746004843Why would it? The performance issue was only related to large amounts of NPCs being in an area, it had nothing to do with anything else, much less spell effects.
>>745975074ya, blast ass
>>746004802>objective improvements >combatNah
>>746003103>why yes how did you know i wanted to have the mobility of a snail and excessive recovery animationsBecause you picked the class that is explicitly all about that in every iteration?
>>746003103ill shit on dd2 but one thing i did like (since i played a bunch of warrior in 1 too) is the warrior timed strikes thing, idk the slight rhythm game feeling of timing the hits is nice
>>746005643>>746004182NTA, but I get where he's coming from. In 1, you could play a fast paced warrior if you spammed light and heavy jump attacks, pommel bash for guard breaks, Indomitable Lunge for charging and hitting weak spots, and Exodus Slash for I frames
>>746005738In other words, the reward of the skills were not worth their slow speed, so it was generally better to just use their better-than-average jumping attacks in most scenarios.DD2 made the skills a lot more rewarding, so there's no need to rely on jumping light attack most of the time.
>>746005889>In other words, the reward of the skills were not worth their slow speedYeah, I'll 100% admit this. All of the slow skills that took time to charge like Arc of Deliverance were garbage. >so it was generally better to just use their better-than-average jumping attacks in most scenariosTrue. But like I said, there were some skills that had their uses. I know when I was in BBI and Everfall, I was spamming Exodus Slash to I frame through attacks. >DD2 made the skills a lot more rewarding, so there's no need to rely on jumping light attack most of the time.True. I personally just don't like how slow it is, but I can recognize that the class is a lot stronger and more viable now
>>746005738yeah and exodus slash has very fast. in DD2 warrior's counter attack has such a huge start up window it almost feels useless. you can't react.
>>746005707>This Arisen knows about Timed Hits
Sphinx my belovedI hope she shows up again in the DLC
>>746006178>True. I personally just don't like how slow it is, but I can recognize that the class is a lot stronger and more viable nowTo be fair, every class is slower now because the combat in general is slower and more deliberate than based animation cancels and iframes. But if you enjoyed DD1 Warrior I can understand why you wouldn't enjoy DD2 Warrior, it's just that DD1 Warrior played the way it did because it was simply trying and failing to be what DD2 warrior was. DDON warrior is what DD1 warrior looks like when better balanced.>>746006408The game in general isn't really meant to be about reactions, other than Thief. Enemy attacks in 2 are ridiculously slow and telegraphed, that's what the counter is for.
>>746006551 (You)>and more deliberate than based animation on* cancels and iframes
>>745999130I agree that the tone is intentionally different and that it does help the more epic moments stand out in 2. Parts like the Purgener wouldn't be as kino without the noticeable shift in tone, as an example.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQaY_VHMytQThat being said, 2's version is just the worst version and DD + DA are both worse than DDO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKf1mL_hgPk
>>745992021They're both great for different reasons. Eat shit, faggot.
How good is the MA healing arrow? Could it carry a pawn party of 2x Sorcs and a thief? Or 3 warriors etc?
>>746007024It's pretty good, yeah. Whenever I'm playing MA I ditch running a Mage and it works fine. Much better range, heals in one big burst, IIRC there's AoE to it too so if they're grouped up it'll heal them all for one cast.
>>746007110Nice, I'll try it out
>>745975752>I'm nowhere near implying DD2 is as bad a game as DD2 freudian slip right thereit's okay bro, DD2 IS just that bad.
>>745981702the vast majority of people that played DD1 have never even been to BBI you retarded schizo
>>745992528And yet you're in this thread. Curious.
>>746007158>>746007024>>746007110MY 2 cents: healing arrow feels like shit. Use the life steal arrow instead. It feels better and does more work. Also somewhat quicker.
>>746010876Yeah Lifesteal Arrow is pretty good but I found it less usable for actual healing than the dedicated healing arrow.
>>746011125I'll have to see how I fare in hardmode, It's been so long since I needed dedicated healing like that that I'm not confident to continue arguing. Maybe you don't do enough magic damage? Pretty sure the health recovered is a flat + % of the damage dealt. All I know is that with a decently mobile and tanky fighter, one lifesteal arrow will heal like 50-70% hp
>>746011267>Maybe you don't do enough magic damage?I mean the damage is pretty good it's just it's best in AoE of smaller enemies, against the bigger harder enemies it's not so great. Maybe Lifetaking Arrow is enough, it's been a while and I didn't play with it THAT much, I just remember I ran the healing arrow because I kept running around with half health pawns because lifetaking just wasn't doing enough.
>play now>beat the game before dlc>overleveled to play the dlcwhat's the gameplan here
>>746011695Eeeh, it doesn't really function the way you'd think against smaller enemies it literally just wipes them all out. But against bigger enemies, because it is so slow, if your pawns move around a lot it can actually accumulate a decent few ticks.
how bad do you have to be at this VERY easy game to think warrior sucks? It's fun and feels great. You stagger the crap out of everything while being highly resistant to being staggered yourself, just time your attacks instead of blindly swinging.
>>746011803Level is like 20% of your character's strength.Equip weaker armor and weapons.
>>746011970or just spam that skyward sunder move and wreck ass
>>745985197Warfarer was added so they didn't have to add a dozen hybrid vocations. It didn't work because lmao4skills, but the thought was there. Should be fine now that they are bumping up the skill limited and you can finally have multiple skills for different weapons.
so what exactly did they change about enemies? it says "enemy adjustments" in the update news.it better not be just the stagger when downed. enemies need to attack at 2x speed and 3x frequency at least
