Why did nobody point out the clear woke agenda behind the downgrade of Link's design? He was literally designed to look like "both a man and a woman to appeal to modern audiences" aka he was transformed into a troon /intersex /nonbinary sissy freakhis troonification was so forced and botched that he ended up looking incredibly unnatural and repulsive, not even in a homo-erotic way, just ugly and emasculated as a humiliation ritualinb4:>he was twink sissy femboy since OOTsimply wrong, the designers themselves admitted that adult Link was directly isnpired by Leonardo Dicaprio, he was handsome, and having some feminine features (fair skin, silky smooth hair, lean face structure etc) is to a degree inseparable from conventional attractiveness >why do you care?why did troons care more that they bullied nintendo to into fetishizing a 3 decade old design? can't they play a game unless it perfectly suits their fetishes?this is like making mario a fat gay mexican mukbanger so that gay brown fats feel better about themselves
>>745977880
I'm okay with their changes leading to feminized Link because now I can goon to him and zelda. Literal win-win
>>745978039he's not even gay bro, he literally looks like a female tranny desperately trying to look like a man through surgery and gear
I keep seeing people say Ocarina Link is based on DiCaprio, but he looks more like River Phoenix to me.
>>745977880HAHA YOU CAN'T PIRATE NINTENDO SWITCH 1 AND SWITCH 2 GAMES!
>>745977880Troons were hardly even a thing during BOTW's development (2013-2016). They wouldn't have had any influence over Nintendo like they would nowadays
nintendo has been making low personality silent self-insert characters since before you were born
>>745978140Yusuke Nakano didnt give names but he did admit that Link was based on a very popular and attractive hollywood actor
>>745977880>his troonificationwhat the fuck are you talking about, retard
>>745977880>Why did nobody [thing everybody did to the point where normal discussion was impossible for a while]Awful thread format, send it back to the LLM
>>745978307not necessarily troons, just LGBTPDHPLE "advisors" in general
>he wants to see cock and balls in a children gameKill yourself pedo
>>745978456look at >>745977880 and tell me that thing doesn't look like a ftm tranny on hrt and top surgery
>>745977880>this is like making mario a fat gay mexican mukbangerhttps://youtu.be/jCHVmuthWn4
>>745978527completely missing the pointlook at the stark difference between Link's most highly acclaimed design vs troon of the wild onebtw left is supposed to be younger and taller than right, so the proportions are even more fucked it's laughable
>>745978585>TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIESstay obsessed chuddie ;)
>>745977880Pop Culture has ruined Elf Boys forever, even if they're not technically Elves.
>>745978816I can't help it when tranny freaks are ruining every game I've ever liked, trust me, I'd love to live in a world where trannies didn't exist and nobody talked about them
>>745978797>left is supposed to be younger and taller than right[citation needed]
>>745977880so that's your new angle, Dobson?
>>745977880The real question is, how he didn't gain muscle back in between games? It made sense he was thinner in Breath of the Wild, he should have been bulkier by the time Tears happened.
>>745979012
>>745977880Genuinely deranged character sheet. No sane person would draw this and not just slap a pair of shorts on him.
>>745979184he was literally exactly the same pre cryogenic sleep, this is a shit excuse they spin to justify shitty design
>>745979206>deviantart as a sourcenigga you trollin
>>745977880They made this change purely to appeal to a wider audience (women). Females don't like playing big muscular men and gamers are too cucked out to complain and force change
>>745977880Take your meds
>>745977920Tom Holland of the 90s, what a faggot
>>745979384Tom Holland of the 1920s
>>745978797>gay twink (toon shaded)/gay twink
>>745979051It's funny how blatant their agenda is
>>745978307People have become less and less accepting of andogynous designs over time
>>745978140Link is a jew?
>>745979762Trapfaggots attaching themselves to Link has been a disaster for us actually attracted to him.
>>745979906Look at Leon from Resident Evil 9. They made him a hunk and everyone lost their minds.People are in the mood for manly men doing manly stuff in games.
>>745979762Link now:
>>745980124Traps are just a lot more accessible to normies. It's a numbers game
>>745979906The fuck are you talking about? That's the opposite of the case. Androgyny is more accepted than ever now. 16 years ago, Nier 1 was literally radically altered because Westerners are so allergic to twinks. Now they're fucking begging for them
only retarded overweight inbreds care about this.
>>745980451I'm retarded overweight and inbred and I don't care about this
>>745977880I haven't given a fuck about Zelda since I was 17 and Twilight Princess came out, that's why. Because I'm not a fucking retarded faggot who still plays, let alone buys, modern Nintendo games.
>>745980417What's funny is how complicated it's gotten. Before, everyone wanted to fuck the cute femboy or twink. Now you can't even do that without it turning into a Trans issue.
Is OoT Link's physique is a toned down version of Geralf from Witcher 3.
>>745980570>Now you can't even do that without it turning into a Trans issueOn 4chan, yeah. But 4chan accounts for like 5% of overall gamer consensus. Then again I guess I could see one of those AndyPants grifter faggots making a video crying "WHAT HAPPENED TO MASCULINITY, THEY MADE LINK WOKE". But idk I feel like dudebros were making fun of twinks in the 2000s too
>>745978816>>745977880I'm the least obsessed anon on this thread, it's all in the proportions.you can't cheat torso length or hip width.
>>745980586I will never understand homos saying Link was a twink, he literally has an above average phyisique for his age, he's incredibly fit for someone that doesn't lift (beside zelda's fat ass)
>>745980758These people just don’t understand Japanese male beauty standards.
>>745980982I blame the skirt.....tunic......thing. Also, those white leggings. Those are tailor made to get ripped off.
>>745981035KYYYAAAAAAAAA
>>745977880People have bitched about Link becoming more and more feminized for decades. OoT Link is arguably "peak" Link and even he was a departure from every Link to that point, and it was to help appeal to women.Even just the voice. It makes sense for Toon Link, but starting with TP is when he sounded way more effeminate and inoffensive. Which is weird because everyone's go to for imitating Link's voice is still the iconic SHYAAAAAAH and grunts from OoT, so it's another case of solving a "problem" that never was one.
>combos-n-doodles draws perfect faggy link>slows down art after getting marriedFUCK
>>745980982twink = adult male attractive in a youthful way. Link definitely qualifies. He was more just like a general pretty boy in OOT, TP, and Skyward Sword, but it was Hyrule Warriors that made him a full-blown flaming twink, and that's how he's looked ever since
>>745981035This.
You guys are fucking weirdos man. Link has been cool in all his forms. Stop sexualizing everything and everyone. Touch grass.
>>745981108those are like common clothes from medieval times
>>745981224what? TP link literally has the manliest voice of all Links
>>745978797>I need my link to be BIG and MASCULINE and capable of pinning me down while he fucks mechuddies never cease to amaze
>>745981479>implying being cool and being a twink are mutually exclusiveWhat's it like being so unevolved, ape? Having fun picking fleas out of your ass?
>>745981559troons will never understand the concept of aspiration because they cannot stop thinking about faggy sex
Link needs a beard. Japan needs to stop being scared of Male Protagonists having facial hair.
>>745980982You're retarded is why. Compare OoT Link to actual manly men from that Era - Sold Snake, Leon Kennedy, etc. Link was always a thin waif of a man compared to real men.Men in modern games across the board have gotten less manly and more thin and soft features, but Link was always less manly than his peers.
Link is breeding meat for Ganondorf and had been since OoT >b-but nope, women agree and any other response is cope from insecure failed males
>>745981681The West needs to stop being scared of male protagonists being clean-shaven. Let's have a trade
>>745978125Nobody's falling for your falseflag skitty
>>745981635
>>745981718Link is a literal teenager you fucking retard, he's not a man, more like a boy
>>745981718>Leon KennedyLeon is an ambush
>>745981635I didn't say they weren't, but I'm not in the habit of using homosexual slang. I think more feminine male designs can be cool. Like the one you posted. People like OP are seeing phantoms where there are none.
>>745981718We just had hunk Leon and the dude from Pragmata.
>>745981718>leon>manlyCome on now, he’s as twinky as Link.
>>745981314Link is underage you gay pedophile, not adult
>>745977880>i don't like femboysYour loss
>>745981893What term would you prefer then? "Pretty boy"?
>>745981835OoT Link is literally a manchild.
>>745978797>tendie americans think right is muscular>literally looks like the body of a starving azerbaijani 11 year oldHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>745981949>HE'S ONLY 19, YOU SICK FUCKYou literally sound like a modern-day feminist lmao. Link is clearly a young adult in Hyrule Warriors. Even if he's only 17, who gives a fuck? Do you know where you are, tourist?
>>74598198616 years old is not a man
>>745981893>I think more feminine male designs can be cool. Like the one you posted. People like OP are seeing phantoms where there are none.Times have changed and the Western mentality is winning. The propaganda goal is in diminishing characters to promote traditional Western values because the West has always hated feminine male designs and will often weaponize >>745981738 gayness even
>>745981956I like femboys, just not trannies and queer freaks
>>745981972Yeah, probably
>>745977880>why do they have to parade these sexy- I MEAN NASTY cute traps around everywhere!? It's making me so har-I mean ANGRY!
The endless seething at Breath of the Wild needs to be studied.
>>745982053no, a twink is strictly an adult that looks like a cute teenager, Link is literally a teenager, you vapid faggot
>>745980982he is not at all. he is just really low bodyfat so his skin sits on top of the very little amount of muscle that he has. if anything he is quite underdeveloped for a supposed teen male. his testosterone should be in overdrive making him much more developed. especially for someone like him who is a fighter. just face it, japs are allergic to masculinity and even when they try to design it with link, they cant do it. i work with a lot of teens and i can tell you that even those who barely go to the gym and just half ass it far outmog OOT link
Fierce Deity is jacked.
>>745982178Trapfags need to admit what they really are, shotafags, and that they love boy butts.
>>745982193Yeah, a nineTEEN year old is indeed literally a teenager. Nothing gets past you
>>745982220he's a fucking fictional elf boy you weird perverted nigger
>>745981035i do understand that it was born out of an unrealistic pedophilic desire to emulate bjorn andresen in death in venice. as usual, japs cant help being retarded faggot pedos about everything.
He's definitely gotten more androgynous since OOT but that seems like just a trend for all entertainment, look at TV and movies there's faggy twinks everywhere, especially in eastern entertainment.I don't think there's been a popular tough guy in Japanese movies since this dudeCoincidentally, the regional ethnic group he's from is almost extinct in Japan nowadays.
>>745982220>Link is not fit, he's just fit, also looks nothing like the average non weightlifting teenager, also here's a literal nigger bodybuilder with the exact phyisque as oot Link
>>745982342he's a BREEDABLE fictional elf boy
>>745981108i think your brain is just raped by pornography. people with normal minds do not see standard medieval clothing that way
>>745982073By modern standards, sure, but in older times, the threshold between childhood and adulthood wasn't that vast, and Hyrule is supposed to be kind of sort of medieval. But I mean that Link is literally a child in an older body, because his mind was frozen for seven years while his body aged. That's why he can't understand why Ruto is so pissed at him when they reunite, he didn't even know what he was getting into when she gave him the damn rock, and Majora's Mask is basically Link gaining the maturity he lacked in Ocarina of Time, and effectively becoming the exact opposite: an adult in a child's body. Look at the first and last transformations you get, even Stevie Wonder could see the symbolism.
Asians have always preferred twink men in their entertainment.
>>74598230216, next homo excuse
>>745982415Beat Takeshi is supposed to be a tough guy
>>745982401Japan’s love for beautiful boys predates that Swedish queer.
>>745982459I literally don't care, I played the fucking game obviously, this is just about biology, not history
>>745981835have you seen what actual teens look like in the past 20 years youve lived in your moms basement? normal, well developing teen boys start developing like crazy and will have lots of muscle and big frames quite early on assuming their nutrition is right. ocarina link is simply the best that a tiny malnourished japanese person can imagine a boy looks like because everybody in japan is a midget and has zero muscle.
braindead argument. plus androgynous japanese design is not disgusting and terrible like the western one
OOT Link skipped his adolescence and formative years, just imagine how blue his balls must be when he comes out of the time warp, it must have taken tremendous restrain not to let all the men he encounters in his adulthood show him how to be a real manDarunia in particular, imagine his BGC going to town on link
Some things never change
>>745982342>conveniently makes the "uhh its all just make believe anyway c-chud!!">>745982434did you miss the part where in the image i showed a kid who just started going to the gym the past week? as i said i know several kids irl who dont even go to the gym who just eat and sleep well while doing fuck all physical activity and still outmog link like crazy. why is it so hard to accept that link is simply not "insanely fit" and just a low body fat teen? hardly the physique of a hero. maybe the body of an asian rice farmer
>>745982597"in the past 20 years" oh sorry, I didn't realize Hyrule existed in the early 2000's, you dork
Isn't it weird how homosexuality is near indistinguishable from competitive hatred and their desire to kill?
>>745982595>this is just about biology, not historyOkay, if we're going by pure biology, then Link is an adult as soon as he's sexually mature, and for boys that's... gosh golly gee whiz, about sixteen or seventeen years old! Got you in checkmate now!
>>745982764you are a deeply closeted homosexual
>>745977880He is literally an eunuch knight in the nu games. He is meant for sissification and NTR doujins.
this thread is relapsing me into gay sissy link porn
>>745977880How come I've never seen someone edit a dick on this image? I'm just saying, you'd think someone'd be childish enough to do it.
>>745982764I don't know where you live but "low body fat" teens look like walking skeletons, I've never seen a ripped teenager that doesn't work out and is just ripped from eating healthy
>>745982835>>745982868>>745982889>pedoshit>gay>NTR>in a span of only a few postsTruly says a lot about you
>>745982835we're comparing physique, not what le heckin science decides what an adult is
>>745982415they still exist as long as you dont watch retarded weebshit adjacent japanese media. japanese art films still have normal looking men in them. japanese cinema has definitely been on a massive downturn since the 80s though, for sure. im not a weeb, but im a total weeb for japanese cinema and technology prior to the stagnation era from the late 80s to today
>>745982784if anything he'd be more rugged and aged looking than a modern teenager due to a pre-industrial lifestyle
>>745982784im saying past 20 years since you are a 30 year old man who has not had normal real life interactions with teens since you were a teen yourself, retard. thats what i was implying. are you autistic as well, by chance?
>Nintendo WAS FORCED to include crossdressing and homolust culture that goes back to medieval Japan
>>745977880beanus
>>745982563yes, but it exploded as an aesthetic as a reaction to death in venice. its a quite noted thing. of course pedo pederasts have always existed in every culture, but japan got real trendy with it after the film and europe broadly stopped its pedo phase in the late 20th century. (except france, but theyre always gonna be degens)
>>745983029No no no, you said that it's about biology, you goalpost-moving motherfucker. You don't get to disregard facts just because they prove you wrong.
>>745983129I'm like 21 dude, if anything, you're the fat old loser spying on teenage bodies
>>745981035Inuyasha was drawn by a woman. This is what foids crave.
>>745982842how so? i am simply countering your claim that link looks like an "extremely developed and fit teen boy" when looks like a chinese farmer from the 1920s. nice argument though.
>>745983164Nobody said they were forced to retard-nigger-idiot-kun.They did it because that's what japanese people want.
>>745983248I meant physique, I'm not sure why they aren't related
>>745980758>But idk I feel like dudebros were making fun of twinks in the 2000s tooThe difference is they turned prison gay
>>745978140Squall was based on him too
>>745983164see >>745982401this effeminate male thing is something japan definitely ramped up with their media after the death in venice.
>>745982992>Link is only 22 years old in TOTK you sick fuck!
>>745980417Only because they've twisted it into this >>745980342 to maintain the hierarchy and the agenda
>>745983325Then you should have said physique, or maybe physiology. You already wound up in checkmate, the game is already over, you don't get to go back and correct the mistake that cost you the game. Just learn from your defeat, and do better next time.
>>745983221Europeans didn't stop being pedophiles, they just stopped having children.
>>745983305That wasn't me
>>745977880Uhh, where his peepee?
People forget that adult Link can't look too different from his child self, it would be bad design. You also don't have to be particularly massive to swing a sword and he runs across great distances.
>>745983469whatever bro, I hope this makes you feel better about yourself
>>745983270ah the classic "you must be gay if you recognize the bodybuilders body" pedo projection argument. look, when you have a normal life, you interact with people of all ages. i have cousins whose lives im involved with and i work with teens as a psychiatric nurse. i see all kinds of teens all the time. i can tell you that OOT link just looks like a really skinny teen boy who has barely done any kind of lifting. it really is a strange body for someone who is supposed to be a hero proficient with a sword and shield. he looks like he would be gassed out from swinging a sword once or twice. thats all im saying.
>>745983354That seems more like a specific aesthetic trend in shojo manga. You can find many affeminate men and shotas in older manga.
>>745983538Look, it's not my fault that you don't think before you speak.
Okay, so I'm like not gay or anything, but am I supposed to look at some of these images and feel nothing at all?
>>745977880Is this seriously what OoTsnoys are trying now? Go back to /pol/.
>>745983530I remember people finding a design document for the original Legend of Zelda game that mentioned how Link was made androgynous to appeal to both girls and boys, similar to how Kojima made Raiden feminine to reach a female audience.
>>745983530yeah human beings are badly designed for looking quite different when they age from 6 to 16 or whatever the fuck age OOT link is supposed to be. are you retarded?
>>745983693You're retarded for prioritizing reality over recognizable game character designs.
>>745983603>literally uses a pedo term for boy instead of simply saying "boy"grim fucking shit. anyways its a trend that persists in all east asian media today. boybands need incredibly effeminate men. you see this in japanese idol crap, k-pop and chinese shit.
>>745983560again, for me personally, every friend or classmate I knew that wasn't fat was either a lanky fuck or a link build, and the latter kind would always be involved in either bodybuilding, some kind of sport or calisthenics
>>745977880Link was always a midge with child like appearance.What ? You want Link to be A 7" tall gigachad with a perma 10 inches boner ?As funny as it would be, wrong franchise.
>>745983639>am I supposed to look at some of these images and feel nothing at all?yes. maybe if you stop gooning so much these gay pedo thoughts will go away, but its definitely not normal dude, sorry to say.
>>745977880>they bullied nintendowomen are the target audience, its conforming to k-pop standards, nothing to do with your western brainrot
>>745983779You know what a pedophile's favorite drink is? Shota pop!
why is his head so big?
>>745983197BEANUS
>>745978039where to i find more of these pics…
>>745983896
>>745983830i just think he should look like a heroic young male is all. doesnt need to look like a grizzled 1800s warrior with a big beard or ripped muscles or anything. a gymnast physique would be sick as fuck
>>745983830>you're telling me an actual boy should look like a boy and not a 5'7 tranny looking freak? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
>>745977880You OoT snoys are getting desperate, holy shit
fugtrup's """art""" is the worst thing to ever happen to Link fans
>>745983945you serious? lol
>>745983862Heh.
>>745983964It's fucking Zelda Anon. A cartoonish game.>>745983974As much as trannies disgust me, Link was always a child like character in an anime DA.
>>745984158Thank you, I'm here all week, try the veal, and don't forget to tip your waitress.
>>745984149yeah
>>745984059What makes you say that?
>>745984245>It's fucking Zelda Anon. A cartoonish game.and? that means he cant have muscles and look more like his gender, because...?
>>745984059Trapfags are genuinely worse than fujos, at least the latter is open about liking gay porn.
>>745984358Because it's the DA. Like it or leave it. Simple as.Link always looked like a midge fag in 3d (and 3d zelda and metroid are garbage, end of story).
>>745984295rule34
>>745984059It's because they hate white people
>>745983856The western brainrot is in the weaponized gayness
the funny thing is about zelda threads i never hear them talk about the gameplay its just goonbait. I wonder who would make these kind of threads?
We need a 2007 Western Link.
>>745977880Legend of Zelda has always been woke. Link does all the work and Zelda steals all the glory because the franchise is titled after her. So if you ever see a game where Link gets killed off for real and Zelda takes over, the title of the franchise has long since hinted that Zelda is the true protagonist. After all Link has been a soulless wooden mute since the first game and recent games with voice acting like Breath and Tears has not changed this. Stop pretending Zelda is not woke. If anything I'm surprised how long its taking to officially give Zelda the reigns while permanently getting rid of Link.
>>745984487idk what DA means. some weeb term? anyway, why are you so insular and opposed to creativity? you dont have to just adhere to some rigid design scheme. even Tendie themselves disagree with you considering how they make link faggier and faggier and more effeminate with each game. botw link has straight up feminine body fat distribution.
>>745980816>keeping charts with human proportions on hand just in caseMindbroken & obsessed
>>745977880Link has been a twink since TOOT came out. The only reason you think otherwise is the American Zelda media drew link as a man
>>745983856>its conforming to k-pop standardsWhich the West tries desperately to fight the influence of
>>745984929a three second google search = mindbroken and obsessed now?
A lot of you niggas have your masculinity too tied up in vidya characters.
>>745985003k-pop is just western shit arriving 5 years later.
>>745984940if you are pretending there is not difference between OOT/TP link and BOTW/TOTK link in how much they ramped up the androgyny and femininity then idk what to tell you
>>745984837I think you are deluded if you think nintendo,out of all vidya companies, gives a fuck about anyone opinions.Link will look like a fag, like he always did, you know why ?Because hyrulians are not, and never were, Tolkien or Warhammer high elves gigachads, but rather closer to fairies.You must be very autistic if you never understood Link was closer to Tinkerbell than to Feanor.
>>745983779It's also a Japanese term.
>>745981479Nah after the crossdressing gameplay fiasco he's permanently ruined
>>745982764Uuhhhh, why do you know so many kids irl?
>>745985158The west is about femininity used against men, while the masculine is sacred. K pop and elves glorify femininity too much for the west so they must degrade it
>>745983862
>>745982401It's called based, westoid-kun
>>745985323yeah i know, but its explicitly a pedophilic term. its just interesting that the anon defaulted to using a pedo term rather than simply saying boy.
>>745985394elves are a western concept and invention, anon. elves are also not explicitly feminine in any way. same with k-pop just being western boyband shit arriving 5-10 years later over there.
>>745985518Do you even browse Pixiv?
>>745985479being a pedo is in fact not based and tradcath, mr larper.
>>745982764Why do you know how several kids look naked irl?
>>745985590no. what does that have to do with anything?
>>745985586>western boybandI can assure you they're orders of magnitude less faggy kniggers.
>>745985586>elves are a western concept and inventionA problematic part of the west's history that they're trying to correct
>>745985689who said they needed to be naked? i can simply see it when theyre wearing t shirts that they are a lot more fit and muscular than someone like OOT link. do you guys usually just walk around in life never noticing basic things like that?
>>745979762It's the same Link, just during the day and night.
>>745985776yes i know. bro. are you not fucking reading what i am saying? im simply saying that the concepts and media present in east-asia are always ORIGINATING from the west and they arrive much later in east-asia. then they change them a bit to fit their standards, such as, k-pop being a lot more effeminate than western boybands.
>>745985801whos trying to correct? the japanese? if so i agree, they are trying to twist and pervert elves into effeminate pornographic characters, yes. japanese people tend to not care about substance and essence and mainly just care about shallow aesthetic veneers.
>>745985703
>>745982764Why do you have pictures of underage boys on your device?
>>745985689To be fair, most people have childhoods and also go to public pools and beaches.
>>745985949
>>745985931The elves being submissive to orcs trend is anti-white propaganda
>>745985875Korea was much gayer before the arrival of Christcuckery.
>>745986030>The elves being submissive to orcsthis doesnt happen outside of your gay anime porn. maybe stop consuming pornslop?
>>745977880Really hate how disproportionate Wild-era Link's body is. It's almost like the perspective is is fucked up, as if someone put a camera somewhat above. His body is just too short.
>>745985586You have 2 types of elves. The tall immortals of norse mythology, and the little tricksters/spirits of celtic tales. Link was inspired by the later.
>>745986084>gay anime porn. maybe stop consuming pornslop?Consider WHY they push and fund pornslop so hard especially on this board
>>745986025It's time to go back.
>>745985806>I stare at random boys on the street and imagine them naked>>745986008>I ogle at underage boys at the public pool and have been doing so since childhood
>>745986134It's meant to look like an anime character with a big heads. Genshin Impact and E33 do the same effect.
>>745986204probably because everyone here is a faggot degenerate and this site allows for that kind of advertising + jannies are completely useless retards? you live in a bubble and need to realize that the world is bigger than the borders of 4chan, anon.
>>745986217Please understand, chuddies are gay as fuck
>>745984693We havent had a good zelda in 2 decades. So it is to be expected.
>>745984940>TOOTwww.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVXg-4LGrw
>>745986217>since childhoodIt would be perfectly normal for a child to look at other children. You guys live in a parallel reality.
>>745986217>my repressed homosexuality states that everyone else must be gay if they look at male bodies because i am insanely insecure about my repressed homosexuality which came about due to me being sexually abused as a childinteresting, anon.
>>745981718This. Taking designs out of context is complete disingenuous revonist history. Link was and is emusculated shemale faggot personfied no matter the era. Not a single ounce of straight male testosterone on him
>>745977880>He was literally designed to look like "both a man and a woman to appeal to modern audiences"Who are you quoting?
>>745986296>this siteIt's beyond this site
>>745986209why dont you listen to moot and hiro regarding this not being an anime site? there are plenty other sites for your kind. why not go back to those?
>>745986383Yet you're still gay yourself
>>745981035Isn't this nigga a groomer that groomed a little girl into marrying him when she became an adult
>>745986293I get that, but it just looks so off. Reminds me of all those early 2000's pictures where they would do over-head shots with a a lens to emphasize the face/ head.
>>745978797>Link's most highly acclaimed designWind Waker
>>745978307I don’t think you’re old enough to be on this site.
>>745984775This just makes me want Japanese versions of Western protagonists. Twink Kratos, femboy Doomguy, pretty boy Marcus Fenix
>>745986383>noctis>masculine
>>745978910>tranny freaks are ruining every game I've ever likeDamn, trannies invented time travel?
>>745986426This is literally an anime website meant to discuss anime and Japanese culture. If you are triggered by it then that's your problem.
>>745986392>Who are you quoting?Eiji Aonumahttps://zeldauniverse.net/2016/06/20/aonuma-wanted-a-gender-neutral-link-in-ocarina-of-time-took-same-approach-for-new-title/
>>745986519Stop larping and pretending like you bumped into any troons outside of tumblr in the early 2010s. Alleging they even existed is absurd enough, but alleging that they had massive sway over big game studios? Get a grip
>>745986482WTF I love Orishamaru now.
>>745986602Holy projection batman, are you 25 or something?
>>745986497The WW designs were widely reviled and mocked at the time.
>>745986558it is literally not as stated by moot and hiro. maybe going back to the japanese culture section of the site is more your speed? this is a video game discussion board, not an anime board, anon. are you a newfag perhaps?
>>745980417>Androgyny is more accepted than ever nowThe late 90s was peak androgyny. Cortana had to be made into a gross fat woman because people didn't like androgynous Cortana anymore.
>>745977880The real problem with this isn't the weirdly wide hips, it's that they gave Link the world's shortest legs. It looks like a shitty panorama. It's like if the seven sages fucked up sealing the Hero of Time and only got his top half to age so he came out like this
>>745986672>deeply rooted in Japanese cultureYou don't even read the shit you post.
>>745986602nta but what the fuck are you on? its not like their existence was some mythical magical bullshit. everybody knew trannies existed and rightfully thought that they were mentally ill perverts who needed non-affirmative help until the faggot millennials of the 2010s came along and really pushed for subversive policy to validate their delusions.
>>745986690>androgynousShe was tomboyish, she wasn't androgynous. She was only hagified by 343 because they were giant hacks.
>>745985978He’s so precious
>>745986727rooted in japanese culture does not mean that we have to all like weebshit nor browse pixiv, anon. have you often struggled with reading comprehension? since school?
Stop being freaks. Link is for headpats only.
>>745986756Back then the main issue were Tumblristas and those were mostly foids pretending to be gender neutral pixies.
>>745986690the 2020s is peak androgyny. people who call themselves non-binary are people who fully embrace androgyny. idk what the fuck youre on about.
>>745986780Short hair =/= tomboy She looks like the androgynous models of the 1990s
>>745986819Some extreme projection gooing on there.
>>745986656What am I projecting exactly? I'm saying you're lying about encountering any troons outside of tumblr back then. So, according to you, I'm projecting... not meeting any troons back then?? Huh??
>>745986756Yes, and they controlled video-games, as everyone knows. Especially Japanese video-games
>>745978416>Yusuke NakanoYou're thinking of Tanabe
>>745986783>>745985978>>745982276Painfully cute
>>745986931Nah she looked like a sci-fi tomboy in the vein of Motoko.
>>745987080>MotokoThe androgynous android?
>>745987207Motoko is literally a tomboy. You haven't read or watched any of the material.
>>745986572>"Hence I created the version of Link that you see in Breath of the Wild. As far as gender goes, Link is definitely a male, but I wanted to create a character where anybody would be able to relate to the character. So that’s why I think the rumour went around that Link could be a female. Because maybe the users were able to relate in that way."
>>745987370Tomboys can be androgynous and women with short hair can be feminine.
>>745987080Halo 1 Cortana is Demi MooreHalo 2 Cortana is Motoko
>>745986602>>745986953>he doesn't knowYou're a newfag, but at least you're not missing out on anything. Oldfag trannies were really... something awful.
>>745977880>>745978039>>745978125>>745979762>>745980124>>745980342anyone else wish they were a child again so that link could groom them?
>>745987430Kill you're self.
>>745987484The original version of Cortana reminded me more of Winona Ryder which was known mostly for horror and sci-fi movies at the time.
>>745986819no, it doesn't, but because it's deeply rooted in japanese culture you tourists sure do stick out, perhaps you should go back instead of continuing to post here with all the people and content that you hate so much
>>745977920>>745978140Link was actually based on a mix between peter pan and cutter from elfquest, originally it was going to lean into the sci-fi setting the elfquest also had, with the tri-force actually being computer microchipsTakashi Tezuka owned fantasy manga fanzines which featured elfquest in 1982, 4 years before they created The Legend of Zelda
>>745987387Pretty sure that one of the original creators of Link said something similar.
>>745988324i like video games as well as other boards. nothing about my interests indicates that i have to like anime. why are weebs always so sensitive about people not conforming to their interests? very similar to normies in that way. its like how autistic people have a meltdown if their routine is broken slightly.
>>745988332>ElfquestYou can just tell this was drawn by a woman.
>>745988427this entire conversation started because you got triggered by a japanese term on a website that is deeply steeped in japanese culture, i just think it might be better for you and everyone else if you went and posted elsewhere because you really don't fit in
>>745987207 >AndrogynousYou are disingenious or blind. Motoko, in the manga, is sometimes called a fuckbot because her frame looks like android onaholes.
>>745988451she actually is, the elfquest creator was also a pioneer for women's cosplay
>>745988427Any real video games fan would be somewhat familiar with Japanese and otaku culture.
>>745977880>nooooooooooooo they made him hot it's duh woke agenduh!!!!!Fuck off, retard
>>745988657>they made him hotFoid spotted.
>>745977880dawg the link dih cannot be that good why are u pressed
>>745988606True.i hate japanese and otaku culture, but you still gotta know about it to hate it properly.
>>745988695THE WOKE RUINED W FAPS !!!! IM SO DAMN ANGERY!!!!
>>745978307Trap threads were 90% of /b/'s traffic 2013-2016.
>>745988535you do know that "shota" is explicitly a sexual term for an attraction to young boys, right? im pretty sure you can refer to boys without using a literal pedophilic term. that was my point. its got nothing to do with japan. im sure the japanese have a term for "boy" that isnt a pornographic and sexual orientation category, retarded faggot.
>>745988606i am somewhat familiar. what made me seem like i was not familiar? the fact that i dont browse pixiv makes everything i say invalid now? why do you refuse to acknowledge that "shota" and "shotacon" are explicitly pedophilic terms?
>>745985101it's an insecure tranny being mad
>>745988949>its got nothing to do with japan
>>745988841>doesn't deny it
>>745989249im not saying "shota" has nothing to do with japan, you retarded fucking ESL aquajeet faggot. i am saying that IT = the subject matter of the discussion, which is; using a pedophilic term for boy over just simply saying boy is strange and reveals something about the character of the anon.
>>745982012>malnourished 60kg yuropoor judging anyone on muscularity Lmao
>>745989396>im not saying "shota" has nothing to do with japanThats literally what you said.
>>745989447why would a norwegian be malnourished? we live in an actual first world country where you get nutritious food unlike goyslopmerica
>>745988949see what i mean? you're really upset by something that doesn't upset the rest of us, maybe it would be better if you took your little crusade somewhere else, it would probably be better for your cortisol levels and blood pressure, and then we wouldn't have to see your shitty posts, it's a win win
>>745989505okay seeing as you admit to simply not having read what i said or just being too stupid to understand, ill tell you again for the third time; "it had nothing to do with japan" was referring to pedo terms in and of themselves. you can refer to boys on 4chan without using japanese pedo terms. or ANY pedo term for that matter. that was the main point, and really, the only point. got it, manuel? let me know if you need me to explain it again. maybe you can ask chatgpt or gemini to explain my post in tagalog or hindi or whatever language you speak
>>745989573Post hand + ten books in Norwegian with timestamp
>>745982012Google image search that combination of words you used. You're actually stupid.
>>745989663>pilpul
>>745989663>Japanese word used by Japanese people and Japanese Otaku has nothing to do with Japan
>>745977880I miss TP and OOT Link. BOTW/TOTK Link is easily the worst one for me design wise, for how feminine he is, his weird proportions and i also don't like his canon blue tunic at all.
>>745989859>still doesnt understand what i wroteholy hell. idk what to tell you anymore. seriously, ask AI to explain it to your like you are five years old and in spanish or russian or wherever youre from. i dont think i can help you at this point.
>>745989663honestly, just go back, retarded moralfag tourist-kun
>>745977920Think they’ll ruin this in the remake?
>>745989915I accept your concession.
>>745990068no problem. wait, my mistake; "¡No hay problema!" am i saying it right?
>>745990135Translator's note: This guy is retarded.
>>745989872If you ask me, his Breath/Tears design is way less twinky than his Hyrule Warriors design.
>>745990257Hyrule Warriors is hornier in general.
>>745990226it's worse, he is on a moral crusade
>>745990257The hyrule warriors Link looks like a twink which means mostly male looking but youthful and cute. BOTW/TOTK looks like a femboy borderline tranny with some of the outfits in TOTK and i don't like that at all.
is it safe to say that the weeb cope of "uhh... i-its just a joke! crossdressing is just a joke in muh japan!!" has ran its course and you are gonna realize that its always just been veiled subversive homosexual engagement? can we just be honest with ourselves already? i wonder if weebs really as that underexposed to cultures that they think that crossdressing in theatre is unique to japan when everybody in the west did the same as well. and newsflash: they always prostituted those young male actors who crossdressed. i guess they were just fucking them as joke as well, right?
>>745990851blah blah blah
>>745991208>LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU LA LA LA LAtruth hurts, doesn't it?
>>745990558>gets flustered by a man in a dressYou might be gay bro.
>>745980417>how to get the West to "accept" feminine men
>>745990031If they do Nintendo's dead to me. The trailer already looked bad and the game's guaranteed to be a disappointment, but if they uglify Link I'm never playing or even just pirating nu-Zelda again.
>>745991452describes japan to a tee
>>745991361I am gay actually lol, i don't like Botw/Totk Link at all.
>>745977880okay but why the fuck does he have widened hips like a woman?
>>745978307>Troons were hardly even a thing during BOTW's development (2013-2016)
>>745991618nta, but true gays are much more respectable than prison gay femboy lovers. youre welcome into agartha, son.
>>745990851>veiledThe Japs are gay as fuck.
>>745991826>Troons were hardly even a thing during BOTW's development (2013-2016)lmao possibly the most naive zoomer sentence ive ever read.
>>745991837of course. *I* know that and have always known that, but weebs seem to be oblivious to it or just simply pretend like it isnt the case and make up all kinds of coping fantasies.
>>745991636>okay but why the fuck does he have widened hips like a woman?Because he is literally unironicallly a canon eunuch. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to stay with the princess alone.
>>745977880Why the fuck were they afraid of drawing him with a cock, nearly all char designers do it?
>>745991618The problem might be that you are too gay then.
>>745992008Because he doesn't have one.
>>745992008japs are prudes and deathly afraid of genitals.
>>745980758sexo
>>745992008Navibros..no..
>>745992008>smaller brains>smaller cocksNavisissies....... don't look.....
>>745991287wouldnt know lmao, not reading some schizo post about it
>>745977880That's not so much woke as it is Zelda is the only "real" game any significant amount of women are into
>>745992145>>745992245hey now, I get the name thing is funny since it coincides with Navi, but I just want it to be known that your posts remind me of a ero fanfic where Navi was forced to watch Link was captured by the twin babas and get fucked
>>745992008It's material for an artbook selling to an all-ages audience from the biggest family-friendly video game company in a country with decency/censorship laws around genitalia, it would be weirder if they did add one. Anyone who did it would have to be "the guy who really, really wanted to give Link a penis no matter what" and nobody wants to be that guy.
>>745992548didn't the latest animal crossing feature several uncensored statues that depicted genitalia?
Yuropeans self-lobotomized themselves to forget about effeminate and eunuch warriors and leaders in history. In contrast, Asians aren't that cucked so they remember their ancient past.
>>745992630Linkbros...the mayor gets to bang hot canine pussy while we have to watch Zelda going into Moblin territory and..
>>745992747>thing>thing, asiaso funny how you'd never in one trillion years defend this if it was from a western company
>>745992630Things with cultural, historical, academic, and/or artistic value are usually exempt from obscenity laws. I can't tell you about Japan specifically but there's a clause specifically allowing stuff like Renaissance art, medical diagrams, and Greek statues to bypass censorship in all but the most batshit puritan countries.
>>745992842>you can show this non-pornographic cock because its old>you CANT show THIS non-pornographic cock because its NEW!!!!!i hate how arbitrary most of these rules are
>>745992924yeah no shit its arbitrary but arbitrary rules dont have to be bad. i'd rather my child see a medical diagram of the anatomy of a penis/vagina than full blown anal poop hentai gay porn or some shit.
>>745986406People like it. >Abloo abloo why don't people like my hyper masculine huge dicks The difference between you and the trapfags is they l warned to draw and create the things they like and you consoom'd a retard and never pushed forward the fetishes you inherited Instead you speak of manliness and le muscular men while begging like a twinky bitch that better and more skilled men do it for you.
>>745987743motoko kusanagi is canonically a trans woman
>>745992119Douglas Macarthur was a prude and pushed for censorship during the postwar US Occupation which is why Japanese porn is censored to this day.
>>745977880OP be like
>>745993416right, because the concept of reforming laws is completely foreign to the nip brain, right?
>>745992924back in the day you could get around censorship by drawing the characters as robots but that loophole closed around '10 or so
>>745993712>right, because the concept of reforming laws is completely foreign to the nip brain, right?unironically yesjapan's legislature is VERY conservative even when it is socially liberal, it would look very bad to repeal censorship thus no one will ever do it, it just gets selectively enforced.
>>745993119its retarded extreme rationalization like this that keeps shit from changing>oh you think anatomical diagrams are okay? then you must want blacked porn streaming on every screen in new york city, is that right?!
>>745993802what a bunch of fucking retards lmao. cant believe people simp for this county past the 1980s
>>745992924Many such cases. They're usually just concessions since censoring either all or nothing fucks up societies one way or another and they're laughably easy to bypass anyway, but at least it makes some sense; there's a difference between ACNH showing kids some famous old statues to pay attention to later when they're taught about the Greeks and Nintendo giving the fag crowd a nudge and a wink about Link's canon penis size.>>745993712It actually is. They have a very strong face/reputation culture and it's a massive faux pas to admit you think about sex or porn at all, let alone rally to repeal laws surrounding it. It'd fuck up your family's reputation for at least a generation or two.
>>745994017crazy how they larp as a democracy while being completely averse to all the good parts of democracy such as voting for whatever you, the people, desire. no wonder these people are stagnant retards who havent had a single innovation since the late 80s/early 90s
>>745993989it was bad in the '80s too because during the '70s they let the world bank jews in who drove the local market into a real estate bubble that popped in '88 and destroyed japan's economy and world power for the next 30 years.all because the kikes were jealoustenno heika banzai
>>745993134You're replying to the wrong anon
>>745992008>>745992924its unfinished artwork from a company that does concept art and models. this was never released. you cant buy a book/poster/figurine with this na'vi dick in/on it, because it was never approved, and its not official. this whole debate is hinged on the idea that it was okay for avatar to do....something that it actually DID NOT decide to do.come on guys. yeah, maybe cameron saw this and went "yes, this is exactly how i want na'vi junk to look like", but since this is just concept art that never made it to any print, we dont know.for all we know that artist got fucking fired, and theres a flurry of pissed of emails where james cameron personally threatens to execute every employee at weta works for leaking incorrect media. or he personally sucks off that employee for drawing the perfect na'vi dick. maybe they would of had to of sold the printed media that had na'vi dick in it as hardcore explicit pornography and require ID to purchase it.WE DONT KNOW. IT NEVER CAME OUT.
>>745994149>how they larp as a democracyto be fair they are more of a democracy than the US, they have more than two functional political parties, for one. >while being completely averse to all the good parts of democracy such as voting for whatever you, the people, desire.japanese people enjoy the concept of social harmony and that involves actively making an attempt to not do things that make other people upset, logically this extends to voting, japanese people will vote for the candidates based on pure merit, while americans do something like "i don't care if he's a pedo and will take all my rights away i'm votin for trump because fuck them liberals ahahaha".
>>745994162for sure, their cinema and media in general was already dead by that point but they still produced some cool shit in the 80s like cars and casio watches, keyboards, etc.>>745994442>to be fair they are more of a democracy than the USsee i know that too, but i always hear this as a whataboutism. im norwegian so im well aware of how dogshit american "democracy" is, but that doesnt mean that japan is somehow exempt from criticism simply because america is worse.
>>745977880Didn’t read. Don’t care. I need him on my massive NEET cock.
>>745994506>japan is somehow exempt from criticism simply because america is worse.i'm not saying that at all, japan has a lot of fucked up problems including the overbearing idea of social harmony, but as far as its government is concerned it actually works properly, albeit slowlymy point is that japanese censorship in pornography is an american idea left over from the postwar occupation and not something the japanese government decided to just do all of a sudden to be annoying.
Straight, but would probably stick my dick in his butt.
>>745994694that means you are bisexual or, more than likely, mindbroken by years of irresponsible porn consumption leading you to become this perverted and subversive.
is it just guys who want to fuck femboy link or are girls also horny for him and want to stick dildos up his ass
>>745994795most zelda fans are men who are just lonely and retarded virgins so they meme themselves into becoming prison gays
>>745994795i want to be femboy link and get pegged by goth zelda
>>745994795From what I can tell girls have been into him since the beginning and mostly hate the recent femboy sissy shit.
>>745994795They don't really see him that way, they see him as a handsome pretty boy, kinda like how they see Leon as a handsome pretty boy.
>>745977880this post gave me 4chan poisoning
>>745995201i agree. election tourist /pol/faggotry is truly a blight that seemingly refuses to end
>>745995091yeah but also women draw inordinate amounts of the weird torture/guro stuff of guys. its really fucking weird.you find an artist and its a ton of adorable art of this unbelievably cute character and then the next page is them getting murderfucked. like god damn it girls, wtfits good but holy shit see a therapist
>>745995456you are saying this like its a huge thing among women when its just some a loud minority of a few girls. the amount of girls who even like and play zelda compared to men is miniscule.
>>745994795Women aren’t into the femboy shit, they like boyish Link.
god this recent trend of drawing link like hes a turbo-giga-slut whose entire existence is thinking about cock bugs the shit out of me. cant we go back to at least pretending hes sorta scared/shy about it, and not like its just the 19th dick of the past hour hes about to service.
>>745995826I'm a homo and i like boyish Link too. I think only porn addicts are into sissy link.
>>745996003>my gay porn's getting a little TOO gay for my liking...
>>745995826I think both men and women all like TP Link. I've never seen anyone reasonably hate on that specific version of him. He's cool, he's got muscles, and he's arguably the most handsome Link.
>>745996190yes
Jews. It's always the Jews
>>745978585It looks like concept art of a character, and they have no need to draw his cock flopping around because this is a franchise for kids?
>>745984775Based and Gastonpilled
>>745996426we need to return to tradcath homosexual pornography, no more of this hyperdegenerate stuff. holding hands and consentual missionary for the sole purpose of ejaculation, not running into dicks like its refreshing cool water from a hose on a hot summer day
>>745992008>>745992245What do their buttholes look like though? Small top on big bottom is really hot
Slightly off-topic but I'm glad i got this nigga right before he became expensive as fuck.
>>745994694I’d rather have his beauty.
>>745977880They're not going to draw Link with his OTHER sword.
>>745978797>look at the cartoony character versus the Lord of the Rings realism ripoff character, that totally means Nintendo is trying to destroy us all! destroy us all! destroy us all! destroy us all! destroy us all! destroy us all!
>>745983693Last time I checked Link isn't human or even real.
>>745995826What you don't understand is that it's pooner ftms who wanna self insert as feminized 4'8 link and imagine themselves being raped. That's why modern link has no actual masculine features. Very different from heterosexual attraction
>>746003204>modern link has no masculine features to appeal to approximately 12 women across the globe who say and post weird shit onlinesure man. makes sense. was definitely a topic of conversation at nintendo
>>746003397femgooners with autoandrophilia were an untapped market, which has now been tapped and is gushing money. This is likely something that genuinely came up as part of market research. Also, women in general prefer rounded features over sharp features in character designs anyway. See guilty gear strive and its surge in popularity among women
Does this board ever get tired of bitching about the boogeymen that live in their heads 24/7
>>746003604samefag but women are also way bigger consoomers who WILL buy the merch and WILL NOT pirate. Just makes sense from an economic perspective to pander to them
>>746002175Link is Human. Hylians are humans with pointy ears,
>>745977880Ironically that version of Link is probably the most overpowered and badass of all his incarnations. He only went down after fighting and defeating like 50 guardians simultaneously.
He's just a young dude. Zelda was given a fat ass and hourglass curves. Link gets to go to town on that. So it doesn't matter how beta he looks.
>>746003837Also before someone claims it's a "localization error" note that the Hylian kids are saying Deku Link isn't human and both Zora and Gorons refer to Link as a human.
>>745978039based beyond belief
>>745982893because it would be zapped by jannies
this was the hottest any video game character has ever looked
>>745977880>why did nobodyPeople have, extensively. You're just 4 years old
>>745977880Can someone describe this "woke agenda" and how he was "downgraded"? I can tell he's a man from a glance. Seems like you people want him to be whatever demon of the day you need to lose your dog-fucking shit over.
>>745977880I still remember when the first teaser trailer dropped and everyone thought we would get a female Link because of how feminine he looked. Honestly I'd prefer femlink over nulink everyday.
>>746006492Who's "we", kemosabe?
>>746004884niggas will be like "the fans made link gay!!!" when nintendo puts this shit in their games
>>745983945In my Link folder.
>>745990435>>745990226>>745990135>>745990068>>745989915>>745989859>>745989917>>745989632>>745988606NTA but I am just here to say that I use both 4chan and reddit every day for 10+ years and I am not going anywhere. I have reddit open in the tab right next to this one! :) I also hate anime and japanese culture. Seethe about it :)
>>746008085>niggas will be like "the fans made link gay!!!" when nintendo puts this shit in their gamesHonestly if you look at Cloud despite also crossdressing his character and personality was very different from fanon, and then Advent Children actually made that characterization canon.
>>745978307You have to be the biggest retard or underage to say that, probably both. Either way mgs2 raiden exists a decade before you were even born yet.
>>745977880That doesn't look like a woman, at all... You're one of them, aren't you. Falseflagging troon
>>746009361Not that i think that anon is right but what does Raiden have to do with anything? He's more of a pretty boy bishie
>>746009790This. I do dislike Botw Link design wise a lot but the posts saying he looks like a woman seem trooncoded to me. He still mostly looks like a dude in-game also he's like 15 biologically so of course he's not going to be the pinnacle of masculinity.
>>746009936That or the porn has seriously warped people's idea of what botw link actually looks like.
>>745977880>trannies trannies tranniesTake your fucking meds, bro.
>>746010205He's androgynous (because he's young) but i don't really see the whole "OMG HE LOOKS JUST LIKE A WOMAN" thing.
>>746010292Yeah, it's a clear difference. You'd have to have brain damage to think he looks like a woman.
>>746009936>>746009971It's intentional because they hate white people
>>745981840nah he doesn't look like Kars. Sephiroth is one
