>spend 10 minutes looting corpses, shuffling inventory, butchering bodies and figuring out the best things to keep>enter room>3 turrets instantly eviscerate me
I better see someone kill Baron with this
>>745983674is that a mod?
>>745984094yes, game doesn't let you move props
You'll be happy in the future when you get what you want as long as what you want is the total destruction of humanity.
>just one quick mission before bed>4 floors, 2+ hoursjesus christ this game sure takes a long timealso I have like 10 characters (and no armor for them) but only found one additional class, is this normal?
>Summon Sultan>Get a solid hit on them>They immediately shield up>All four of my turrets are killed one after another>They shoot me six times and kill meHow can I kill this fucking thing?
>>745984945Amputate the hand.
I feel like I'm ready to leave the safety of the non-quasimorph systems and take on some systems with Quasimorphs. Which system is the best starting point? I was thinking the moon since it sounds like their weapons tend to focus more on conventional damage and it's relatively close to Tsiolkovsky
>>745984945Shoot him in the face
>>745985057Just chop a robot's head off and replace yours with it and quasimorphosis doesn't really matter, or bring some morphine and the meds that cure addiction
>>745985252But I want to fight Quasimorphs and hear the metal soundtrack kick in
>Unfair.>Leaving the elevator cost a turn.
>travel 2/3 of a year to Jupiter because that's where they sell toolboxes>nobody selling them when I get therecool
>Retry the first story mission, thinking I am ready this time>Managed to kill the baron>Go up 1 floor>I get massacred by 5 million dudesIs the story mission supposed to be this ridiculous? It's the very first story mission, come on.
>>745984832>also I have like 10 characters (and no armor for them) but only found one additional class, is this normal?yeah it's random and if you're unlucky or doing jobs for companies that don't reward class chips you're not likely to find extra classes quickly
>>745985761The story missions in general are kind of shit
>>745985457Then bring some cigarettes and start smoking at 200 when the sick guitar riffs kick in.You'll be the coolest clone in the warzone.
>>745985057>>745985457Venus is the easiest. Spiders have poison (check them for head mods - if they have one, they can shoot) which can be annoying but otherwise it's easy until baron spawns and even then they have weakest barons. Still hits for 100 in melee though.
Give me one good reason I shouldn't eat rotten burgers.
>>745985761I didn't tackle story missions until I had a God of Fire. I genuinely burned 2-300 people alive. Imagine fucking stench.
The humble tin can.>makes you forget about cannibalism >also turns into smoke or nail grenade Is there a better item?
FUCK FLAMETHROWER FAGGOTS
>they fixed drop item cryochamber infinite expansion>but they didn't fix priya stack compression cryochamber infinite expansionlaughs_in_500_gavvakhs.png
>>745986287Fire is good!
>>745986238>1 can + 3 human flesh = can of meat at a stove>Suddenly struck with an idea>Start bringing a full stack of cans on every mission>If a mission has a stove, butcher every corpse I come across to get meat>Cook it all on the stove to get at least ten cans of meat per mission >Now have an entire stockpile of canned meat>>745986038Sounds good. From my understanding of Venus (mainly the fact that it's been terraformed into lush jungles) it sounds like it'd make for a nice change of scenery as well (at least for the first floors anyway)
>>745986238A bottle>turns into demon-banishing alcohol>turns into instant firebomb Problem is getting the thing in decent quantities. Is there supposed to be a recipe for it?Btw.>did a first conquest mission against quashitsIt wasn't that hard, albeit they're still Tech 2. Frontier + Varangian do a good job there. I also had those HE grenades I got a recipe for. >at last got a recipe for said VarangianLosing the Hawk was pretty painful, so I hope I get to make up with improved tactical axe. An improved Claw was doing a decent job for a while, but higher damage and cleave was increasingly needed. I wonder if chip for the Hawk is a common item or is it held by the Chinese.
I think I fucked up going to Jupiter. All the factions gained 2-3 tech levels.
>>745986754Now you just sell that canned meat on your trade shuttle.
>>745987052Free loot for you. All you need is a handful of nails.
>>745987162>throw nail>enemy doesn't die>turns around and crits you into painshock killing you next turn
>>745986785The hawk is fun as fuck. There's very few things more than satisfying than throwing a hawk through a line of enemies and killing them all with a single throw. At one point I was running Auberon with a claw in one hand (mostly anyway, it was more my "whatever melee weapon" I can get my hands on hand), a chainsaw blade in the other, and a hawk tomahawk in my third arm specifically for throwing as an eclipse blade (plus some nails and saw blades on my harness quick slots for throwing as well). I like to think he was more terrifying than any Quasimorph could ever be
>>745987383You should have the genome to deal with this. If you don't, you aren't too far ahead and can just restart.
how are you supposed to wear the good midgame armor when it's so heavy it plummets your dodge into the negatives?
>>745987689Improve it for lesser weight or improve defensive stats of light armor
>>745987825>Improve it for lesser weight or improve defensive stats of light armorIf only I had the data chips...
>>745987689Find other sources of dodge like implants and perks. Or just don't wear it.
it's a fun game but if the game decides to not spawn the items you need it sucks
>>745987689simply ignore dodging altogetherwear more armour and stay in coverkill things faster
>>7459879861. You're supposed to have a bunch of duped chips if you're talking about mid game.2. First few improvement points should be pretty much free especially if you did the cost reduction ship upgrades.
>>745988672Pretty much this. Also when it comes to cover, make good use of those big fucking crates you see everywhere and hug them like you're trying to rub your cock all over them. They're your best friends. Almost nothing gets past them and it takes a shit ton of firepower to destroy them.
This really does make you immune to poison damage.
>>745988280Marika + Tunnel Rats + Trading
>>745991029>thighNothing can compete with speed drive
>>745991615Agile for interacting while running, Ur hoof for 4 AP while running, and eye of Ravugg for omni detection.I do not need the speed drive
I can handle losing clones to the stupid in-mission RPG, why is the metaprogression RPG so unbearable? One campaign I got the second nav upgrade within a few missions, one campaign it took 8 fucking hours to find some electrical parts
>>745991157>to beat the rng just have the rng drop the anti-rng items
epic
>>745992064>>745992128you need my fucking cock
>try sending valuable goods out>shit profit return>send shitty basic bitch ass tezctlan rag armor out>get back ton of resourceswhy
>>745992215>xhe didn'sted reinforfitured they'ze ribs
>>745983365>During my pre release playthrough Tezctlan took way too much while I was busy jacking it on Mars>this time rush his ass>fuck him up>realize I'm about to wipe out my favorite whipping boy so I can't have infinite rep with everyone else anymore>now I have to save him
>turning your proxy into a quasi cult makes all their required resources turn into some type of flesh or quasi artifac and waterYou know, this is ridiculously broken for growth
am i locked out of any other quests since im at the final spider mission?
Grasshopper Tek is so useless and crappy I can't help but want to proxy them to help out.
>>745986238>Eat raw or fried meat>Quasimorphs go apeshit>put it in a can>Quasimorphs don't notice
>>745993039YeahI got locked out of all other questlines the moment I took out the first of 3 nakals.
>>745993165It's about stress and cortisolEating long pig out of can is civilized and doesn't stress
>>745983365>turn-basednah
>>745993181so i wont even get events if i, let's say, wipe out shedu's legion or the hexarchs?
>>745991029>get a wound there>no longer poison immune>forget and eat poison
>>745992064thats what the stock market is for. check who has the stuff you need for those important early upgrades and stay friends with them or make sure the station that sells them stays in the hands of someone who likes you.
How can I copy my save?
Feather Skull gave me a pact for her quest. I think I'll just morph it, fuck you bitch.
>>745994376That's against the rules.
Bro where is the fire immunity suit/augment? Max level Tong Meng turns every skirmish into a bonfire without end.
>Releasing updated mentioning "story missions" in it's title>Doesn't actually do anything worth noting with them outside of 1 missionWhat the fuck is this clickbait ass update.
is this game sort of like Sword of the Stars: The Pit?
>>745984945Fully automatic machine fun fire or a handful of nails works for me.
>>745993823>seal of silicone throne>dodge tank>getting wounded
>>745987689Modify armor to be less heavyGenome editing and implantsHannah and Kenzie clone perks
It's good to be the shadow kingi do hate how the proxy options just make it seem like you play second fiddle to whoever you side with thoughgranted, for some, it reads more like you're working in tandem with them, specifically the quasimorph cults
The Ur baron is such bullshit.When can I get armor that has high fire/cold resists that can survive his grenade spam? The corps are just starting to hit T6, but I'm not finding any good armor in their inventory yet.
Just finished my first 1.0 story run.The Genie Hand trivializes everything not on Mercury so much, it’s ridiculous.
>>745995214It's a bit like it
>>745997676Few things have radiation resistance is whyAnd even then, it deals so much damage and enough attacks that it doesn't matter unless they're completely immune like some quasi are
>>745996717coreward has one at t7you can also mix and match carnage armor for high fire and lacerate from fighting realware and ibn sina to get some ice resist from daydream
>>745998190Gehenna is unironically one of the best armors in the game. Not as high as Prophet, Warlord, or Integumentum, but vastly more spread out.
>>745983365Yep, I knew this game was made by Russians. Glad i pirated.
>take a control mission>get to objective, kill first 2~ groups>sit for 2k+ calories doing nothing>open door to look for last group>arm is immediately amputated via sawblade >painshock lets the group of 4 kill meim sure the quasimorphs could taste the gavvakh i produced through the screen
>>745998571>Doing control missions at allI really wish they would highlight the attacking squad, I've had to comb the entire map for stray fuckers too many times to count
>>745984832You get a lot of chips early as a reward for missions, and different corpos give different rewards at early levels. Check their tech in the info screen.
>>745998302>sodomy torture casually mentionedbased and trad russkiy mir culture
>>745992248Kek.
Are there any skills or anything that are good to go with rocket launchers? I'm having fun spamming incendiary rockets everywhere but I'd like to push it further. I haven't really played with pyromania much, would it be a big boon to the agni rockets? What about the sniper clone for extra range, does damage falloff effect the blast of explosive weapons? Do damage bonuses in general effect explosives?
>>745984342how strong do you have to be to throw a box for 102
>>746000162I think there’s one explosive damage perk in tifton elites
>>745986038quasimorphs vary by planet, i only started and fought on mars and the moon
Why the fuck these slavjeets removed the ability to drag the map around by a left click and force you into using a wheel now?!
>>745984832https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3372043917get this if you dont want to be softlocked from new classes even after puting a dozen hours into this game
warcrime status?
Whats the point of doing the bramfatura dungeons? Just burning as much ammo as fast as possible?
>>745993240So in theory does that mean if someone were to cook up a slab of human steak but eat it off a plate with proper eating utensils (maybe while listening to classical music) instead of just tearing into it with their hands and teeth like an animal it would actually reduce quasimorphosis?
I put a throwaway clone with some throwaway gear on a perilous self-amputate story mission and he killed 11 barons at the same time without issues, unfair diff btw.7.97 pierce is just that powerful
>>745984945You got unlucky with the sultan spawning with his reflect shots pactSpam around 3 voglea's squire from duggur to absorb his first few hits or stack to 1k shields from gannix's blood pool to shield pactIf you want to be almost invincible to his rad beams you can stack 3 addictions for vicious symbiosis (smoke, alcohol and gavahk, maybe morphine but you dont want withdrawals from that), and with shielding perk or triggering duty shift perk your beam resist will be insanely high as along as your base armor has around 40 beam resist
>>746001628Farming quasi materials, pacts, and implants/limbs. You'll find way more monsters in the bramfaturas than on regular missions. I think some people have said that there are a few rare super high tier weapons that only appear in deep bramfaturas, like a Duggur gatling gun that fires nails
>>746001958Gotcha.
>>746001273casually tanking those lategame is almost comedic
>>746001231That's not what softlock means and that mod is gay and gacha is gay and the game is fine without it. There are more explicit ways to cheat the good stuff in for yourself.
As lackluster as this form is, the weapon in your mouth is a nice touch
>>746002258Mods make this game so much better and you cant refute it
>>746002626Some mods, yeah, not this one. There is value in not having and striving to obtain. This mod takes that away by giving you stuff.
>sell useless but aesthetic venusian armor on trade shuttles>get ridiculous amounts of resources back in returnI'm keeping the weapons
>>746002663The best thing about that mod is you can set the guarantee as random percentage or make it after you roll a specific number
>thermal absorber lets you walk through fire without taking damageholy shit
>>746002984the worst thing is it lets you cheat stuff in
Son of a radiaoactive bitchIt really is insane how radiation stunlocks you to death if you don't have a few ranks to increase pain regeneration
what does the changing faction type of proxy do?
>>746003186I think, what kinds of units they will have on a mission, and what kinds of missions they make.
>>746003186Stops a faction from attacking youEmerald Cult becomes a Tezctlan supporterFeathered Cult becomes an Aztec Spider simpSanguine Cult becomes a warjunkie supporterProxy Cell becomes a commie sympathizerPirate Syndicate becomes a based mad lad member
i love this gamehttps://files.catbox.moe/7148hw.mp4
I like the artwork for the game.
>>746003328>TFW you finally had the sweet release of death and they went and cloned you yet again so you could wrestle with monsters from hell while drinking jenkem vodka and eating human steaks
>>746003493I wonder which clone that guy is supposed to be
>>746003493i wish i saved that one rogue trader hymn rip off
>>746003493the ride never ends
>>746003295Kek, the ending.
>>746003295Is that with the Golem Group AP bonus? For some reason I thought it didn't work on the spiders, I'll have to give it a try, maybe give them some longer ranged guns though
The baron of war? More like the baron of jobbers
>>746003648francis i'd assume
>>746004065how many reloads did this take
Did anyone tried already some kind of shitty-weapon challenge run? For example, how long do you think is possible to go in this game while using exclusively only Wreck shotgun?
>>746005326I gave the sawgun another shot and I have to reassess my view on it. It ate a lot of sawblades, 40-50 per floor, and a stack of sawblades is 20 per slot. It's durability is also too low in my opinion.
Isabella's trait is great for the early game but utterly useless mid and late.What should I change it to? I already changed Bobby into agile, and I don't think I want to do the same for her. Thinking ninja, really. I made her super dodgy
>>746007001Yeah, I think I'm going with ninja and empathizing her using quasi implants, like Bob. But unlike his Fear and Hunger exploitation, she'll rip everything apart with her quasi hands.
>>746004576just needed one shot from my daydream cold shotgun
>>746007001I put her as the interact in run mode person
Why doesn’t poison have a secondary element?
>>746007001one man would be pretty good as you can put some good throwing weapons like the axe for pierce throw or other damage type melee weapons, explosions resist is really strong with how many baron pacts and late game enemies dump it to overcome your dodge
>enemies can actually run out of ammoneat
is there a new game+?
>>746008037surethe outcome of the questlinesorry if you went realware, tezctlan, or civil resistance
>start mission on unfair>the whole map descends on my position without ever making any noiseWell fuck you too game. I am literally making graveyards at the shuttle location.
>>745983365So what did you learn?
Like seriously, what's the point of aggro mechanics when on higher difficulties you will have to kill the whole map in the first room anyway?
>the ancom hellscape future has corporate-sponsored twitch streamers who murder people for donations
>>746001679Yes.
>>746008037Yes, it's called "fly to saturn and back".
>>746008808is of tactical, da?
>>746008808have you tried using silencer
>>746008997Yeah, let me just use guns that deal 20~ damage on that difficulty, that will surely get me places.inb4 just upgrade itYeah, just get the materials to upgrade the ship, then upgrade the weapon, without doing missions, why didn't I think of that.
>>745997676I'll report it on the forum and get them to re-balance it.
>>746008832I fucking love the AnCap future.
What's the closest faction to a good guy faction? I'm thinking Unchained Belt.
I retrieved the Golden Skull, what to do next ? >claim Xiomara quasipussy>ancom>civ resistance>pirates ?does the unchained belt have a story branch ?
>>746009208i'd say unchained belt, dithley, grasshopper and planetbridge. sbn. i wouldn't say they are good guy but they are more neutral or at least not outright evil>>746009327no, it's just a single "bonus" mission
>>746009208PlanetBridge and Grasshopper.
>>745983365I dunno how I feel about this game, on the micro level it can be brutally unfair but the long game is literally unloseable and you can eventually die with next to no consequences, craft whatever you want etc. The only true challenge is self imposed.
>>746009548I mean, it has probably some of the best flexible difficulty settings of any game I played in recent history. Just turn on lose clone on death, and voila, you have a losable scenario.
>>746008832>those weapons>cutting edgeSounds like he needs some more subs.
>>746009645Maybe his viewers prefer the old-fashioned style?
How do you guys play pheonix brigade and Valkyre. I want to use the unique crafting recipes but I cant even survive long enough in a floor with them.
>>746009785Keeping yourself alive is literally what Valkyrie is built for though?
>completed spider quests>all others vanished>ship completely upgradedi wish there was more endgame content. it took me days to get to this point and i dont wanna start over. can i kill off all the hexarchs and quasis?
>>746009845I mean, in a turn based game where action point economy is a thing, killing enemies faster is unironically the best possible survivability skill you can have. Especially when the retard who made the game made it so even 1 damage hits can inflict heavy wounds that prevent you from using meds or even reduce your AP further.
>>746009414SBN is literally ALLIED with a quasimorphic faction>>746009208AnCom unironically, iykyk
>>746009956You could make your proxy take over the entire system, but why bother at this point?>>746009982>wounds>ValkyrieUh?
>Story mission for the phase bomb>Four floors with 40 enemies>"Nothing I haven't done before">Just commies lmao>A lot of them are armed with Prometheus plasma weapons>Get to essentially the end>Make the mistake of sneaking in front of a door>Asshole opens it and the guy behind him bursts me with plasma>Pain, skip turn>Another round and deadThat was one of my better clones too...
>>746010103>wounds>valkyrie>what are cooldownsWhen you are getting multiple wounds per turn with a 25 or something cooldown on stabilizing wounds, its not exactly a miracle cure. Sure, on normal difficulty it might be enough, but on hard or higher you will get drowned out in harder missions if you can't clear the bodies thrown at you fast enough.
Man, the game really teaches you some unhealthy and unfun habits on higher difficulties.>reach last floor of a mission>dump everything besides ammo and healing from your backpackYeah, I ain't taking a flee penalty if I will have to return to the elevator anyway
I can't tell if this is a good weapon or not.
Dilthey's secret lair in the Skrivnus Bramfatura is the most epic shit
>>746010132Happened to me too.They spawn a horde in when you get to the parts
>>746010216Yeah it's not a miracle cure for playing poorly I'm afraid I'll remind you the golden rule : Just Don't Get Hit Bro
>>746010410Eh?
>>746010350You get 40 shots out of it before it breaks.
>>746010451Civil Resistance Questline>>746010350>heavy weapon>that damageit's trash
>>746010350>range 9It's goodBut I prefer the Enigma M2 with Niko the pistol man
>harvest shitton of meat in mission>come from mission>all rottedcan you not bring fresh meat to magnum?
>no missions on mars>go to moon as it's closest with a mission>Q rising>music changes depending on the meterfuck me i finally figured out wtf i needed, music change
>>746010548You can have a freezer upgrade where you can chuck all spoilables in there. Also, rotten meat is a component for making anti-biotics, which is used to make first aid kits.
>>746010410The corps aren't stupid, they know quasis are a thing and are studying them, just like you are
>>746010862There is a strong difference between reverse engineering entropy weapons and establishing a literal base in a Bramfatura.
FOUR FLOORS OF "COLONY" AND NO FUCKING STOVEARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHAT DO THEY EAT?I JUST WANT TO GRILL
>>746010904lol what
fighting t7 planetbridge and they bring so many sentry guns, much more than any other faction
>finish the spider bitch ending>she's tricking you to make you mpreg with a demon god baby that's 1 million times worse than anyone else, so bad it's not even malicious but just... entropy or something? or maybe sun dies?Anyone smarter than me please explain this shit
>>746010949Hm, is that modded ammo?
>>746010904I wish we still had the ability to go onto friendly maps without a mission like it was early on in the beta. Just to craft if nothing else.
>>746011000All endings bring about Gagtungr's return. He contacts you a lot regardless of who you choose. I think you're actually his herald because your actions result in his birth finally occuring. Ironically, the winning move is not to bother with the story missions for humanity, but it keeps them locked into this soulless conflict for more money. He is the Sun.
>>746011000You finally get a waifu It's Quasimorph happy ending
>>746011018I think its one of the mods that lets you disassemble items on the ground, the M means the item is locked from automatically going into your inventory after salvaging them
>>746011064You still can if you disable fast trading, if thats what you mean. I never found any fabricators or medical machines though, but there are stoves sometimes
>>746011130Oh shit, I didn't know that. I was hoping I could return to stations after defense missions if I found some good crafting benches, since its rather unlikely I will have very specific materials on me.
>>746011080>Gagtungr's returnlamo fake news
>>746011381Anon, read.
>>746010548you need rotten meat for antibiotics and medkits anyway
>>746011381I mean that is the point, they are trying to create or rather give existence to Gagtungr from what I understand. Its like he is an inevitability,
>you can equip dogs
>>746011523Gagtungr doesn't exist yet, but he had already manipulated Prometeuth to give humanity "fire" (essentially its drive and rebellious spirit). At least he seems to think so.
>Want to upgrade a clone>See that the materials I use can still be used for some ship upgrades>Don't upgrade cloneAghhhhhhhhhhh
>>745983365That's how my one and only game of PUBG went.>hide/loot for 10 minutes>turn around corner>shot deadHow can anyone stand this absolute garbage?>inb4 skill issueI'm not complaining about dying but that there 10 minutes of fat before any fight.
Can someone sell me on this gameI was just gifted this game by a friend out of nowhere
>>746007001Agile gives +50% dodge.>I made her super dodgy>without AgileNo you didn't.
>demons come to life>they win and conquer humanity in about a yearGrim. Couldn't we put in a little effort?
>>746011662Just try it. Music is nice. If you like the gameplay, walking around the dungeon killing enemies, you will like it. If not, you won't.
>>746011694And have a worse bottom line? Over my dead body.
>>746011694i put in a lot of effortit was just on the side of the demons
>>746011667Do you have any idea how easy it is to get that much?
>>746011646I got an ending before I upgraded a clone or a weapon/armor even once. They really should've separated the ship upgrade mats from everything else so you don't have to hoard them, would've been a much better system.
lads how do I free Ur on Mars? is it the spiderlady storyline?
>>746011837yeah. suscribe to her faction and it shows you next steps
>>746010882What can I say, Dilthey's head scientist is a madlad
>>746011893thx bro
Ok, fuck that, I don't think I will go for the stupid 0 deaths on unfair challenge. Its not even difficult, its just tedious. Every map plays literally the same.>step behind first cover you find>keep shooting until everything on the map is deadEvery single map. There was not a single map so far that would not be the same shit. >open elevator room door>roaming enemies already thereH-here we go again...
>>746011783You can get that and more with Agile. There's no upper limit to dodge. If you don't need dodge from implants, they offer much better options than anything that clone traits offer.
do clone HP upgrades carry over to your transformation HP?
>>746012065dodge/miss chance is capped at 95%
>>746012076I'm almost certain they do, because Insanity makes your transformation benefit 1.5x from Q-meter.
You can't stop Magnum's Sunlight>>746012076BetterThe bonuses now stack.You get the Quasimorph buff in full and the insanity bonus when transformed.
>>746010904Get the ship kitchen mod
What's the point even.
>>746012131>>746012205but insanity is perk based. i was wondering about gene editing based HP increasesotherwise i was thinking body building might actually be useful on a transformation based build
>>746012343ohthen i'm not sure because a lot of transformation health variesbut you can use perks during transformations sooooo
>>746012205Ay fucking yo
qrd ?
>>746012556Okay, it seems like endgame armor is starting to spawn in because of Sunlight Reaching 8 tech. Nice.
>>746012105That's final result, after enemy's accuracy has been subtracted.
>>745998302Why are you suddenly opposed to torturing commies?
>>746012105these are the retards complaining they keep getting hit on melee dodge builds
>xiomara ending you get spider puss at the cost of getting Mpreg with gagtunger>meawhile texmex ending as him laying like this complaining over how fucked everyting is and how xiomara's feminine pride was cringe>while asking you to plunge your big black dagger into him so gagtugr can be bornsomething's wrong with the venus demons man
does having a negative dodge chance actually matter or is it functionally the same as have 0% dodge?
>>746013041It raises critchance for your enemies
>>746013041increases crit chance(and therefore wounds which can rack up fast even if 1 damage is taken)I jst carry army med kits and tank shit and kill everyone in 4 apalso is ur the hardest brapfuta? gannix is a total snorefest in comparison to ur. but the golembot parts themselves seem worth it
>>746013139shartmahcum
>>746013139>also is ur the hardest brapfuta?For me it's Shartmycum
>>746013192God I wish it were real...
In the Realware questline can you actually do anything other than surrendering after "stopping" the AnCom ritual?
>>746013358noits a meathead worthy ending, ancom was trying to send tungus back to sleep but realware was too stupid to understand it
>>746013358QRD?
>>746013139The basic bitch summon robot pact lets you farm them from them without getting shot back
>>746013040kek, john "quasimorph" hawkwood is just a chad
>>746009419Planetbridge unironically sounds like it'd be a great company to work for if Quasimorph's setting wasn't so fucked>PlanetBridge also prides itself on its educational programs. The corporation provides general and advanced training in engineering and project management. These programs are in demand both among corporate players seeking to optimize their production, and among parents who have taken the risk of having children and want them to have a comfortable future as members of the elite caste of builders of the new world. Meanwhile in real life the most most companies will do for you is offer a laughable amount college tuition reimbursement that'll cover maybe a single quarter of college
what is the absolute best bang for my buck final upgrade on this? it already hits like a trck
>>746013907I'd probably bring the spread down even more, because 9mm exploding ammo works at any range.
>>746013974Yeah, spread is the real accuracy. You can have 100% and hit a fucking wall next to you with scatter
I still don't get what the issue is with Gagtungr being formed is. He shouldn't need Gavaahk, he doesn't give two shits about Quasimorphs since they are just tools or pets to him. Does the sun blow up? Does it become sentient and decide to go elsewhere? All I've read in the endings was vagueposting from all factions! Oh, the inevitable Gagreflex is coming and how could we have been so blind and everything is doomed and over in the next couple of hours so let's watch the end of the world for some reason.
How do you eat human suffering i mean what does it even taste like can you imagine haha
>>746014164He's not going to buy anything. He doesn't care about money.
>>746014248The true horror was that Gaggy is coming to end the invisible hand of the market and establish a permanent theocracy.
>>746013415SadNot really stupid but more like misguided by their AI advisor thingy>>746013431You start to clean up the system from resistance, pirates, quasifucks and other undesirables, and in the end of it all you catch a whiff of AnCom summoning some shit on Earth. So you go there and Magnum is instantly attacked and fucked up by RealWare warship because they don't want to risk potential info leaks.After completing the mission you return to Magnum and cutscene starts, in which RealWare guy says "it seems we fucked up and brought the end of the world, lmao, our bad"
>>746014360>all of that work for them just to fuck you over in the endholy shitrealware is trash
>>746014324gaggy seems to like how ancap plays out tho, he might even keep it for entertainment
90% chance to dodge with full IBN Krav maga, eye of rarrug, and heart of eitsekor
>>746014559They mean well, but theyre just too unga bunga to be effective
>>746014360>>746014559RealWare is probably also the worst way to get the travel drive, because the story missions before it do so much damage to the game world.When you wipe out those factions for them, the old stations are given to others, which throws the whole power/tech balance off scale.
>>746014648I love this Isabella so much already
>>746014805Xio is by far the most efficient way to get the drive. You can even pivot to somewhere else afterward.
>>746014624I'd just like to know if we actually know anything that might happen outside of Gaggy being our new boss that might change something but nobody knows. The dude could literally spend all his time scrolling through social media brainrot for all we know. Is this just humans not wanting a literal god figure to exist regardless of whether it's good, bad or neutral?
>>746014868lore makes a lot more sense when you understand not even quasimorphs know what the fuck they're talking aboutxiomara, texmex, urparp...none of them understand the grand scheeme of things and just act on egoprometheus got it at the end and fokerma knew from the start, thus her deciding to just watch humanity and have funno one really *knows* what gagtungr wants and rely on projection to serve it/oppose itthe person he ever, ever, directly decided to speak to is john hawkwood and he seems to content to law low as long as you keep struggling
>>746014868
>>746009208Unchained Belt and Dilthey. Former just wants to be free and the latter is the one that's actively fighting against Quasis with some degree of success (replicating the effects of Quasi weapons exclusively with human tech, colonizing a Bramfatura).AnCom and Realware also have the right goals but they're psyop victims unfortunately.
>>746014985I thinkYou are his human incarnation. Which is why he talks to you, and your actions lead to his rebirth. For fuck's sake, one of the endings is you literally becoming him through eccolapse.
>get those 2 magnum upgrades that give +1 to item level out of curiosity>now i find tech level 3 shit while everyone is on tech level 1that's just stupidlike actually fucking stupidit makes no fucking sense man
This is my Quasisabella No Weapons Eclipse Blade build.I switched to heavy Venus for aesthetic purposes
>>746014164Gagtungr is just some giga nigga from an even HIGHER plane of existence. All that bramfatura talk of the quasis are only one level of what "is". That shit goes up (or down) way harder than the few dimentions ("reality" and the bramfaturas of the planets) we interact with. Gagtungr might me the high priest of the meta plane of the whole solar system or some drivel.
>>746015086i think gagtum already decided who its favorite kid was long ago, all other faturas want to be daddy's special boy but all of them are boring in comparison to humans, his advent might not even change anything substancial other than the sun smiling at us in eternal malicewe can opress ourselves and generate more gavvahk by ourselves than any quasis would be able to if they subjugated us
>>746015175Besides the previously mentioned implants and perks>Overgrown Muscles>Ossuary (Purely for Cyber Compatibility)>Ur Golem Servo with Magnetic Deflector>Seal of Silicone Throne for none of those annoying fucking injuries>Induction Frame for obvious reasons>Ur Hoof for 4 running AP and even more weight modifier decrease
also if you want go down the REAL schizo hole read "The Rose of the World", the game barely scratches what that dude was on
>>746015232That is very heavily implied if you go Tezctlan. He doesn't want to kill humanity. In fact, he's surprised on how powerful Tezctlan and Urparp have become from feeding on human gavvahk.
>>745986038Wait not all enemies can turn into quasis? There isn't that meter on the bottom right that turns into a Baron?I just started and every single mission has this. I thought it was just a part of the game. Am I wrong?
>>746015334Commie Colnodes have no souls to eccolapse.
>>746015323But he doesn't even care for gavvahk, right? It's just quasimorphs that obsess over and he comments on how it seems to work for them.
>>746015528Someone post the Prometheus info dump
>>746015528he's hooked on it like everyone elsewhats the most dangerous thing abou using gavvakh on your clones, anon?
>>746015587how do we cure them then?evidently, more drugs as a game mechanic but still
The animation that enemies do when they get electroshocked is always so amusing.
>>746015587How can a being that is on an even higher dimension than pleroma or whatever be addicted to something before he is even fully formed?
>>746015662because gavvakh literally flows downstream to him, all of itany that doesnt get snorted by quasis, literally goes to the sun because the solar system is like a basin and hes in the center
>>746014164IIRC the Gagtungr from the Rose of the Worlds loves Gavvakh but he's different from Quasimorph's Gagtungrwe honestly don't even know what's bad about him waking up. like you said, every NPC just goes "oh he's so terrible and powerful that he doesn't even care about us we're so doomed" so we have no idea what the bad thing is. I think some questlines even have you continue playing after he wakes up.
>>746015662existence and time are fucked in bramfaturaville
>>746015334If you just started you're on Mars and there's no quasi there. Saturn and Tsiolkovsky on earth are also demon free, and also CivRes can't eccolapse because they've been brainwashed this hard. There's some mission types that don't have the meter too, defense and uh control I think?
>>746015639it's not so funny when it's you>>746015729Molay admits he didn't expect Gagtungr to not care about them at all.
>>746015725Doesn't that mean that, by destroying all quasis and letting humanity multiply and spread, he will get exponentially more gavvahk as long as humanity keeps prospering?
>>746015835yes, thats why quasis are inherent cucks and all their shit is just pissing and shitting everywhere cause theyre kinda pointless to gagtungr
>>746015175this is the only aesthetic isabella
I wish walls weren't made of paper. Obviously stupid ancaps build the cheapest shit possible.
Remember to hydrate your bots, they need them electrolytes.
>>746015884Why would humans even be afraid of Gag then? Sounds like a pretty good deal - he deletes quasis, we grow huge and all our cortisol gets dumped into him anyway. SBN should just fully open solar twitter or blusky or something shit, enough to make Gag gag on our cortisol levels.
>>746015639Even works on gods.
>>746015975hehehehe
>>746016003Well, it seems like he does end up making things worse. Or the sun explode. He does SOMETHINGit's just never elaboratedlike, he takes over humanity in tezctlan's place if you went his route
there's gotta be a way to quickly put perishable stuff to cryoi don't wanna go through every single fucking item to see if they are going to expire or not
>>746016003because fear makes good vakhbeing gagtungr's favorite boy is not really a good thing, since hes a literal crackhead addicted to painsauce
>>746016047They're "gods"By their logic, every slave you "kill" is a god too
>>746016103So we have a new king shit of fuck mountain. What then? Are the ancapistans afraid of his tax policy?
>>746016242yes
>>746016203Despite no one aside from a select handful of people among billions knowing he might be a thing? Quasis are more terrified of him than the humans who know he exists.
So everyone else saw Grubby play this jank last night too huh?
>>745983365Which minor factions have their headquarters/takeover quest located within the mercury-mars range?I have been putting off taking one over, because I don't want to commit to it only to find out "HAHAHA, YOU HAVE TO GO TO SATURN TO CLAIM IT!" Fuck that trip.
>>746016242i don't want to be taxed on porn, man
>proxyWait, what?When was that added?
>>746016182you have to set the tab to receive/sort items and also have the correct categories for it, artifacts + repair kits should auto sort gavahk, the repair shard and eye scannerif you add in food category it puts in shavva but annoyingly it also puts the meat you dont care about to waste the limited slotsfor the perishable ammo you want to put it in a high capacity gun instead where the ammo wont rot in it
>>746016358Bramfatura engine>>746016326literally who?
>>746016501Are you a fellow Carnage, Dawn, and Mystery pattern max Kenzie Yukio full dodge in full armor OG?
>>746016489Toss the addiction and there won't be porn for Gag to tax
>>746016003Because humanity would be turned into gavvakh batteries to fuel him. Also the quasimorphs were his servants/slaves, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't keep them around as slave drivers. >>746016358Coreward has its HQ on Mercury, though I read it can move, so don't count on that. You can always check the faction's HQ station in their info screen.The mission to capture a proxy expires in 30 days, so if you don't manage to get to it, you can always try again later. Also, the Bramfatura engine solves your travel issue.
>>746016529I'm not launching that bitch into the game just yet. Thanks for not answering my question you dunce
>>746016887Thank you anon. That's very good info, I appreciate it
>>746016894lol calm down
>>746014805Eh, Ancom's technically worse. Not only do they do the same tothem and SBN, but permanently render Duggur inaccessible and Ur never awakens at all.At least you can still play the post-game, unlike Realware.
>>746016887Humanity is already feeding him their gavvahk naturally. We are already batteries, nothing has changed. The quasimorphs taking part of said gavvahk means less for him and he already gets it all. Why have slaves that you don't need that eat food that belongs to you and every so often revolt? What you're saying makes no logical sense,. it's more apocalyptic vagueposting. He already has it all.
>>746017054You can awaken Ur with spider mommy and do another questline.Duggur, honestly, sucks
>>746015175
>>746017040I'M CALMER THAN YOU BUD
>>746017139Cool.
>>746016358Daydream, theirs is on earth's fullerThey're pretty good as they give you a bunch of medicine, clone genome mats and pretty strong poison and cold gunsGorgons are basically flamethrowers but will destroy everything not weak to poison and has lower weight, it still works great even in T7The divider a hard hitting poison handgun that uses batteries and their cold guns will freeze strong enemies you cant burst quickly
>>746016707Might as well be a colnode.
Travelling to the other reaches of the solar system is so impractical give how long it takes...
>>746017214I prefer basic ballistic shotgun/assault rifle, but the genome materials is neat; medical components and drugs will come in handy. Already pushed my main clone to level 27. I am already at 100 rep with Daydream because I quickly had enough of getting melted in 1-2 shots when I forgot to wait by a door, and just opened it with 1 action point left.Perhaps I should stop obliterating Franche Compte and befriend them for weaponry crafting chips, instead of just looting the rare new weapon or chipThe cold weapons do sound awesome. I'll think about that
>Decide to start a new game giving the thingamajig to PlanetBridge>They give me a Thunderstorm as part of their starter kit>Aww sheit gotta try this fucker out>Bring it on a mission>See a bunch of fuckers>HERE WE GO>Unleashes a flurry of lightning jesus fuck I'm Zeus>Most of the shots miss and the ones that land do tickle damageFuck you Planetbridge
who is it that says>"roger, in"is it the (you), john quasimorph? also i need more backstory on the (you) character desperately
>>746017421I have not yet unlocked the bramfatura engine, but that should shorten the travel time significantly - don't know if it's "instant travel" or just a matter of turning 100 days into 5-6 days
>>746017457The problem with things 1-50 damage is that you are statically more likely to do less than 5 damage than anything else.
>>746017490>We'll leave it the way it is, and wait for us to come back
>>746017504It's literally instant. Time doesn't progress in the bramfatura dimension
>>746017504travel is instant. the brapper takes 5 days to recharge but it can reach each side of the galaxy instantly. im using it to cheese the hexarchs to irrelevancy in mere weeks
>>746017457thunderstorm unironically is better on the enemy as they're somehow always ready to delete you with one burst when you least expect it
>>746017394Life is shit if your options are only between wageslave with crippling porn addiction and commie soulless husk.
>>746017559That's awesome. Maybe I really should just go ahead and unleash xiomara already. I have never travelled beyond the asteroid belt, want to experience the other barons
>>746017598That's perfect. You can spend 5 days doing missions and generating 6 more missions if there isn't enough. That'll get you through a couple of days
>>746003295friggin' kawai
The pact banes are such bullshit that they make me not want to engage with the system at all :(
>started over like 5 times>finally uninstalled planning on quitting until new content launches>just reinstalledWhat can I do to not sperg out this time?
>Finally get the brap engineTime to usurp Grasshoper and fully LARP as a cowboy.
>>746017821The early one that sucks is duggur overall, extra durability use and wasting more medkit uses is horribleShart is bad once you get to the one that randomizes enemy damage type unless you have every resist pretty highGannix and later on Ur banes are pretty much free and manageable, though gannix extra demon spawn can potentially cause a mission failure for control missions where they spawn near it and bash it down
automatic repair upon mission completion yay or nay?
>>746017821they're usually such nonburgers, like extra 34% chance of enemies at the elevator or wound damage you should be healing thru with a kit anywayAnd besides which there's tones of way to remove bane, the -300 item plus the upgrade
>>746018095honestly. id say yes, no matter the difficulty. its retarded your ship doesnt have a repair station that uses stored energy
Remind me to never do an escort mission on a quasimorph active station with a quasi auged clone ever againjesus christ
reminder that if this says 'custom' or 'hard' or 'normal' ur a casul
>>746018194>pretends to be hardcore*looks at his save file folder*
>>745993165It loses the cannibalism mod too. Maybe its an allegory to the myth that our processed meat has human in it
I play on the normal(easy) difficulty
>>746018194This game fried me so hard yesterday that I don't even give a shit anymore. I'll stick to unmodded hard forever
>>745993165Works in real life too.
>>746018369hehehehehe
>>746018168full quasi clones are for braap dives
>>746018443They're good for any elimination mission. Protect even with how some enemies just get lost
>>746004441francis is bald as fuck
why doesnt magnum produce more clones for defence missions? 50-60 beam wielding enemies is fine with some backup.
Thinking of starting a new run on Unfair, but in custom settings adding 2 floor limit so it doesn't take 5 hours to clear a big map, and 2x stack size so the grind of simple cheap stuff is less painful. Thoughts?
>>746016315i think the big problem with his advent is that he lets everyone know hes now thereits why everyone hates you afterwards, as far as theye concerned, you scrapped all their portfollios and now theyre gonna have to start over with an asshole god giggling in the backgroundkind of a downer innit
>>746018610You can regain their favor by reminding them how valuable you are.
>>746018513because souls are a thing and you cannot have more than one copy of an individual clone active
>>746018601is say go -1 floor level becase it gives a benefit to maxxing your navigation. max all stack sizes. the real problem is weight fuck the inventory system
>>746018513Clones aren't cheap, and the corps aren't paying you enough for more than one clone. You've got ARs and turrets, even spiderbros if you've been harvesting spider coccoons like you're supposed to.
>>746018656>>746018703how do the other pmcs do it then??
>>746018726they have the diet version of them
>>746018790i could equip and arm 1000 men in 10 days in this universe
Give me a quick start setting where all the corps start at TL5 and you start with a bunch of chips and some initial upgrades for the Magnum.
>>746018194>he doesn't put all the difficulty sliders at max, no items, random startYour an casual
>>746018873TL4, tl5 is brutal lmso
tianming is definitly up to somethingthose chinks were blabbering about mystic shit way before quasis revealed themslves.....
>>746019023They, like Church of Revelation, are posers.
>>746017490>i need more backstory on the (you) character desperatelyYou are John Quasimorph. You've been expecting the Quasimorphs for years even though you haven't seen them. When you were a kid you watched the Grasshopper ships with your daddy and you would say to him "I want to be a Grasshopper wagie daddy" and he would say "NO SON YOU WILL ECOLAPSE INTO A QUASIMORPH"
Game feels XCOM or Mewgenics without any of the fun or tactical stuff.
>>746019342Don't put this zoomer garbage near XCOM. Or did you mean nu-xcom?
but what if we just made peace with the quasimorphslike make some kind of agreement or somethinghas anyone tried that
>>746015729Even if Quasimorph's Gagtungr is considerably different from the original concept in Roza Mira, and we should probably assume that they share some basic similarities and motivations.>In laying his claws on Shadanakar's laws, Gagtungr warped them in such a way as to generate and increase suffering. He made them onerous, cruel, and unbearable. He resisted the establishment of the law of transformation in Enrof; death arose as the resultant vector of the two opposing forces and became law. He resisted the principle of universal friendship: the law of survival arose as the resultant vector of the two forces and became a law of life. Finally, the demonic forces tampered with the life of other planes in Shadanakar – those planes through which travel beings who have incarnated at least once on terrestrial Enrof. Those planes were transformed into worlds of retribution where tormentors reign and imbibe the pain of those who suffer there.>Providence's design is to save all victims. Gagtungr's design is to turn all into victims. The divine-humanity of the next global era will be a voluntary union in love of all. The satanic humankind – its rise at the end of the current era appears to be unavoidable – will be an absolute dictatorship of one. Tyranny produces a more copious supply of gavvakh than any other form of rule.>[Gagtungr's] victories consist of his enslavement of other monads or their souls: the demonic monads as half-allies, half-slaves, and the monads of the Light as prisoners and objects of torment. As far as Gagtungr can picture the future of the cosmos, he sees himself as a kind of sun around which countless monads orbit, one after another falling into him and being swallowed up, with the entire Universe entering into orbit around him and being swallowed up, world by world, by the monstrously swollen hypermonad.Gagtungr's birth is the death of free will itself.
>>746019443good luck making peace with demon crackheadsyou see tezclan?hes a borderline human fetishist, thats as good as it gets
>>746018194The difficulty known as "hard" was originally the only difficulty. The other difficulties were added because a couple people asked, not because the developers wanted you to play them.
Does having high beam and ion resist mitigate the stunlocking from shock or the rad build up?
>>746017628Such is life in the ancap paradise.Although... there is perhaps a third way.
>>746018610So we return to an age of gods, where humanity is, once more, united in servitude to a single deity. Everyone is pissed off at us for being the deity's herald as well. I understand prizing freedom for humanity but, in this setting, Gagtungr appearing, passively eating all the gavvahk we create by ourselves naturally without having lesser quasis eccolapsing us while we amuse him in our endless struggle to live sounds like an okay ending. It's not an ending at all, it's just another chapter in the history of humanity. Maybe we will even be better off with a god-king.>>746019563That all sounds very self-defeating. I assume a lot of cocaine was involved in the writing of Roza Mira because anyone who uses the term hypermonad is high or into some heavy chuuni shit where his OC is just of a higher powerlevel than the OC of the person that came before. Reminds me of a thing where we had the hypermonad chair system where the sitting cuck-king makes magic nazis fight magic japanese schoolboys with the souls of ancient nazis fight using fundamental idea powers and monads that go beyond reality just so the cuck can be cucked good and finally die after satisfying his retarded netorase fetish.
>>746020121no cocainejust a dude locked up in a soviet prison, so, its not that far offits just regular crazy, no drugs involved
>>746020121> I assume a lot of cocaine was involved in the writing of Roza Mirait was written by a schizo russian who was thrown in prison during stalin era
>>746020072unironically, unchained belt are the heroes in this settingthem and dithley
>>746020121>we return to an age of godsehh, basically, only now our suffering is literally taxable, and the other quasis that werent acting like petulant niggers like duggur and and scrivnus are essentially a part of societytax evasion is punished by having a nobilis kick you in the balls
Does proxying only work for minor factions, or also on Unchained Belt?
>>746020180That explains it. Sleep deprivation experiments. He ascended into the next reality after weeks of not sleeping. Probably was hallucinating most of the time.
>>746020268All the best books are written in prison.
>>746017457The starting classes do not give accuracy to the Thunderstorm, but it has the potential to be amazing when you can make custom classes. When you have detection implants, you can mow down packs of enemies through walls.>>746017608Because players fill up their inventory and have -50% dodge. The Thunderstorm destroys your cover and then you in a single burst.
>>746020384probably mad from hunger tooits the real sauce of schizo, that one
>get the bramfatura bomba from spider lady>ignore all cringe story lines and propel my proxy to dominance until I am boredsuch is the way
>doing moon missions>constantly end missions with 900 Q meter, even have to smoke and drink stuff to reduce it>install a head with -1 quasimorphosis>it never goes past 200wtf kind of math is this?
>>746020315only minor corpos yes. no belt unfortunately
>>746020289There's no tax collection if the tax goes directly and automatically to Gagtungr. Also, John Quasimorph is still around, casually tearing quasis and humans apart for the love of the game.
>>746020487gagtungr likes capitalism, hes the 6th hexarch afterallhe will comodify gavvakh just cause its fun
>>746020274I'd like to fully ally with those two. A more robust takeover system where, instead of takeover, it's a permanent bond.
>>746020460How the fuck would you even do that? They have no stock or set leadership. Their mascot changes depending on strategy.
>>746020550It's already a commodity, the market just isn't aware it's there already. If everyone knew that them killing eachother like retards and being parodies of ancapism creates gavvahk, nothing would change because everyone is already doing it to extreme lengths. It's a pretty shitty setting. Almost every attempt at terraforming has either failed or is incomplete, same for colonisation of the stars. Dilthey is carrying fuckers hard.
>>746019391>>7460193422 completely different genres. Stop it.
>>746019342it's darkest dungeon what do you mean?
>>746020452someone said every turn the meter goes -1 to 2 randomly (which sounds right in my experience). so if you get -1 you don't have the averaging slow creep anymore. and since it's kept low, not as many enemies start getting posessed and murder each other which in turn spawns more quasimorphs and causes runaway effect
>>746020550Maybe that's the true ending. Everyone panics that Gagtungr will enslave all creatures, both human and quasi alike. But in the end, he merely becomes CEO.
>>746020785just like...oh my godwe were gagtungr all along
>quasis become wagies by tungr's decree>average human's face when
>>746020673Both turn based nonsense. The game is bad.>>746020742Not really.
>>746021276>do randomly generated missions to gather loot and level up your guys>after level up your hub>repeatpretty similar if you ask me
>>746021276>I hate turn based games, I'm going to go into a thread about a turn based game and scream about my shit taste!
>>7459916Q-parts can't hold a speed drive to begin with.
>>745998302I don't think it was some big secret.
>>746022360I love turn based games, i played Front Mission 3 literally yesterday. Played QM; thought its just inventory nonsense with no tactical depth, saw streamer play it and he came to same conclusion in an hour. Its bad.
Quasimorph is like Fallout 76 but worse
>>746023090>>746023019discordxixsters.... we lost
>>746011627If spiders can bear arms why not dogs?
>>746023385Give a dog a gun and shit brix.
>>746011627give him a sword
>>746012715makes mission gen not generate missions between your proxy and the associated faction
>>746023469>swordmaster gets transformed into a dogisnt that an anime
If I wanted to explain what the came is about, I'd say it's a resource management game with turn based combat and roguelite elements. The real skill being tested by the game is, above all, resource management. The moment to moment combat matters as well but only as an occasional application of resources.Also, I just reread all the epilogues and either this was written into prose by an LLM or these writers are the reason why LLMs sound the same
>>746023483This game doesn't explain a lot of important shit, thanks for the info.
>>746023570A lot of text seem to be written by LLM. Early texts are not, and they are sort of clumsy and funny, and newer texts clearly differ in style have em dashes and many obvious LLM-isms.
>>746023570>>746024046Why do you keep trying to do this? What made you so angry at this game?
>New game on Unfair>But with the Squad mod and the mod that lets you control them independently like XCOMWould it be balanced? It almost seems like needing to babysit multiple clones would just make things harder.
>>746024095I'm the person responding, I am not angry, I am playing and enjoying it, I'm just saying things as they are. I won't pretend the texts are not LLM slop just because I like the gameplay.
Do you guys really leave the escort target at the entrance and then pick it up later?
>>746024306Nah, I just grab a defib and lead him through. Also give him the armor of slain foes. Most of the time he ends up just fine.
>>746024397>defibShit, you can actually use it? Thought it was just upgrade material.Thanks anon.
>run was going well>probably ~60% of ship upgrades>decide to travel to Jupiter>everyone's TL jump massivelyI think I bricked my save. I want to start over but I don't want to live without my ship upgrades...
>>746024549>I think I bricked my savewhy? kill two dudes and bam congrats you now got their tech level
>>746024549Why do you think you bricked your save?? You get to play with fancy new toys
>>746024534Yeah. Just be careful because it targets a square and if there's a pile of dead guys on the square it may not target the vip.
>>746024612>>746024659Sure I'm finding good gear but I'm lacking things like clone/class upgrades to keep up. High tier gear doesn't matter if I can't hit anything or it plummets my dodge to negatives.
>>746003295>spider uses 3 ap per shotFuck you dev, you sneaky sonofabitch, is that how you nerf em?
>>746018110Yeah, the -bane shit is bullshit however. Since the bane ingame is not portrayed properly. So -100 sometimes won't even reduce it by 1. Why are the devs so allergic to just showing us the actual numbers. >have 3 bane in mission>finish mission with -100 bane >end up with 3 bane after missionGeeee, fucking thanks.
>>746018297I doubt there is a single legit player that has gotten the insane difficulty with 0 deaths with at least some amount of cheese, be it backup saves or just alt f4 if they would die. And that is ignoring reroll attempts to get a good starting clone class combo.
>>746024549>plummets my dodge to negatives.that is completely normal. You hit harder/from further away and learn to never walk check rooms>can't hit anythingyou yourself said >I'm finding good gear you just gotta git gud and have some patience. Simple as
>>746024726If dodge is negatives get better armor and use cover.
If induction frame doesn't stop shock stun, what the fuck does?
>>746024726If you can pick up a rocket launcher with rockets or grenade launcher it's pretty much smooth sailing. Molotov into grenade also kills a lot of stuff, the fire explodes any nade instantly(even the shitty 1 radius wz150 that you cant put in the GL)
>>746025878
>>746025835shit, it was ment for >>746024726
>>746026072Sincerely what's the difference? Does one stop the buildup of shock but not the stun if you get an injury while the other does both?
>>746026178there's a different implant that gives immunity to stun. i think stun is from pain (and knockdown maybe?)
>>746026178Flashbang stun.
>>746026802That's what it counts as? What the fuck?
>>746026635>>746026802>>746026905And I mean electroshock stun dance specifically.
>doing long mission>get to the last floor>get blind sided by one fuck with a mini gun because im starting to get tired of playing super carefully like a rat>forget i have gavakkah, forget i have shield, forget i have a pact to save me and just die trying to shoot back and kill him and see a swarm of other enemies comeI think my biggest hate of this game is how one shot bring the whole level down to you. It makes exploring and repositioning pointless. I just need to dig a hole somewhere and let them all come
>first mission>already managed to make a pile of remains in the first room
>>746027028I wish this was true. The ai is fucking braindead and you can explode someone's head and the guy next to him will do literally nothing
>>746027257That's is true but only when they already found the source of the fighting. I suspect it is some sort of bug with corpses and investigation. But the WHOLE level even if itis 14 rooms will path towards your location when you fire your first shot
>>746027028Play jan with sexbot head if you're tired of playing carefully, you get way bigger detection radius with his passive which is more OP than his ignore armor on undetected enemies shit no one really usesIf you get the auditory implant you can also do it on other clones with the same setup
>>746027549how do i farm implant chips? Do i hit universities?
>>746027549I find using that head leads to bad habits forming. Plus the shock malus means a damage type that already rapes the player is doing so at twice the speed.
>>746027658I will show you the way
>>746027658You have to just get lucky with drops, I started seeing auditory implants once most factions got to T7
>>746027751This is such a dumb mechanic.
>>746027843To be fair, it both gives greater and lesser chances of getting what you want
>>746027751Trying this right now.
>>746027751Does this involve proxying? Because I don't think I can do it.
>>746028132uh, do you see a -100% at that price tag?
>>746028132>>746028156Although that does give me an idea on to use it at a station asking for augment chips I own.
let me show you more big brain plays
>>746027751Didn't they just fix that? They changed something about trading
>kill CEO mission>fucking baron spawns>nigger survives EVERYONE turning into monster
>>746029738No>The price of goods, which depends on the station's inventory, will now be recalculated per unit, rather than after purchase. Barter coefficients have also been updated.That's the only change>>746028712Really hate those sitting in the open radio towers on defense missions, especially when there's some platforms without walls around them - you just can't possibly cover them all. Pic unrelated.
>>746030007implants, son!
>>746030007You have to work for it, anon.Be thankful this doesn't affect your escorts
So aestheticshame about the resistances
If you're getting filtered by escort missions you're an idiot. Just make the faggot wait by the elevator until you've cleared the floor. It's just chore work.
Watch out motherfuckersThis genie is strapped fuck, manthis is so cutei don't know why
>>746030583they should let you buff quasi armor via ritual or something like the pact nonsense
...Three guys in a bathroom?>>746030749That's a cool idea.
>>746030338My human escorts gets possessed and shoots the back of my head.
>>746030807They ate the rotten burger, don't get any weird idea
>>746030807>Three guys in a bathroom?Russian game
someone last thread was complaining about missing 3 sniper shotsi wonder what my odds were to hit at least once
The percentage chance to hit doesnt seem to reflect anything at all you can fully miss at 95% or hit 11% a hundred percent of the time
>>746031453never going down without laser sights again
>>746031453Combined with scatter your actual chance for even a single shot to hit was probably less than 1%.
>>746031453The spread is not included into displayed percentage.
Whose Magnum?
so laser sight shotgun is perfect for melee characters with no investment in ranged accuracy right?
>>746031590>>746031593at least 2/3rds are going over his tileisnt that when hit chance comes into effect? like bypassing cover by aiming behind and to the side of an enemy
>>746031790Just throw nails.But against spiders or anything else that has high dodge yeah a sidearm with a laser sight is very useful.
>>746031453Try not to run while firing your guns.
>>746031779Big Boss
>>746031883Visually I count 7 out of 23 bullets intersecting the creature's torso. 0.91^7 = 0.51676101935. Clean 50% that not a single one hits.
Should I let them die?Does this seal away Ur again?
>remove negative weight>add negative weapon mods
>>746032706Your math is wrong, you're calculating for everything hitting. Not sure where 91% came from but we'll go with that. 91% hit is 9% miss. Chance of 7 misses is 0.09^7=4.8E-8 (aka FUCKING NOTHING). The game lies about hit chance.
>>746033168eh?
>>74603329591% miss and 9% hit according to the video, not the other way around.
>>746033390Ah, my bad then.
do disks not have a chance of dropping when fired from a gun?i was hinging my build on that. is it only when thrown?
>bring cool new weapon for bramfatura dive>it mulches through quasis like a knife through butter>it runs out of durability halfway through the floor>didn't bring repair kits
>>746033661the first casualty in bramfaturas is durabilitythe second is you
>>746033661>enter mission with 1 gun>brought the wrong ammo type
>>746033712this hurts to look at
Did the remove click-draw from the map?
She is the She-Wolf. Brother of Mustapha, who should be War.She who bares the Blades of Eclipse. Sister to his brother Terror Pack.
>>746034298>Brotherwhat is wrong with mesistersister goddammit
>>746034298Is it a good idea to pump all your upgrades on HP in this game? Is that the meta currently?
>>746034349WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
Mystery Pattern looks alright, but it's defenses are absolute trash. I know it's the dodge armor, but you can dodge in full power armor with the right setup, making it obselete.
>>746034563lmao
>>746034558300 actually isn't that much. It's pretty easy to have 300 health and 30 pain threshold clones in the late mid to endgame.Real meta shit is boosting a clone's satiety to 9999 with Fear and Hunger that gives you bonus melee damage in accordance with your lost satiety.>>746034563my fucking sides
>85% chance of morphine addiction>miss it 4 times in a rowThe game is learning to not give me what I want
Goddamn, Cyro fucking rapes Ur quasis
>>746035461isnt straight up cold better?
>>746027491It's fucking bullshit, I swear. What's the point of sneaking outside of detection if you're going to fight 25 assholes if one shot is let off. I lost 3 6x4 bags yesterday right outside the elevator because of a gank squad waiting for me from the opposite side of the map after clearing the area I was in. Fuck this game makes me angry.
>>746034018I think they changed it to middle-click.
>>746035919Stealth does not exist in the game, they really should rename the sneak option because there is nothing sneaky about it, as you said, not only will the whole map aggro if you fire a single shot, I am pretty sure most maps also spawn patrols that immediately charge the elevator room. I have been going at impossible for a while now, and every single floor seems to just be a meatgrinder at the entrances, and once you clear 80-90% of the mobs on a map, you can move out of the entrance.
what does that even mean>>746035589Dunno. I try to avoid Mars quasis because they burn down half the damn map
>>746036098Anon if you want to do actual stealthy combat you need to play the stealth class that gives your attacks silence, nullify enemy alarms, etc.
>>746036098What really confounded me yesterday was the enemies rushing me fresh off the elevator anyways. I'm not extremely deep in (maybe 20 hours), but it feels like the safest way to play is to install a heal+/turn or quasimorphosis -1 augment, find a crate or container, block a door on your flank and just skip your turn until the army of mooks inevitably finds you. I still can't put the game down, but that is insanely frustrating design and it feels like you have to have a strong loadout before you can even think about experimenting
>>746036321>your attacks are silent>enemy shoots at you>not a stealth mission anymore, fuckerUnless I'm missing something. NTA by the way
>>746036321>stealth classYeah the one that gives "chance" of stealth, which means 1 time it does not proc and stealth is over, same with enemies, 1 single enemy does not die in the first shot, and its off to the meat grinder. >>746036570Honestly, that is kind of how I am making my way trough unfair, find some cover as soon as I enter the map, and just kill off the waves, once it mellows out, I can loot up, and finish the rest of the map. Sometimes there are a few stragglers left, but most of the time it pulls the whole map. Its a lot more mellow on hard, since it seems that on unfair they become even more rabid.
Is there a trick to getting good quasi implants? Do I really need to go melee or saw discs?
>>746037475Transformation pacts.Self-amputationNo seriouslyIt's so brilliant I wish I figured it out first
MAJOR, I'M BUUUUURNING UP!
>>746036723>>746037405Filtered stealthlets
How do I apply a class where ive changed the perks? It doesnt seem retroactive. Do I need to equip a different one then re equip?
