>only 2 new enemies and 1 guardian spirit>just one tiny open world map>new weapon is overpoweredIs this the worst DLC Team Ninja have ever done?
Yep, duskbloods sweeps.
Did the PC optimization even improve
>>745983782Possibly but considering it's given to you for free if you just use an uinlocker on steam, I don't see the problem
I was surprised to see the current rating for it on steam.
>just one tiny open world mapbe real, how many open world maps did you want them to add in one DLC? Three? Double the game's size? The DLC map is bigger than all of Nioh 1 or 2's DLC levels put together btw, and just as dense
>>745984092Why do people put faith in steam reviews anyway? Literally the first one I saw was a guy giving a bad review for only having one new regular enemy when the game has three at minimum no matter your criteria (Alchemist mages, Mini Giant Toads pronounced "Mini Giant Toads" and the wind dragon), and probably like 10 if you're not being a retard that does count enemies that reuse models but have different movesets.
>>745985663>Why do people put faith in steam reviews anyway?you know for a fact you wouldn't be asking this if the steam reviews were positive
>>745986220>you wouldn't be asking this if the steam reviews were positiveYes, because nobody would ever bring them up as a conversation if they couldn't use it as ragebait so there'd be no reason to.
I played a bit sword and shield, don't think it's for me for variety of reasons. These guard points being on basically every skill and heavy attack at the beginning doesn't really make sense to me. They should be at interesting parts of combos/skills so they actually cover unique situations instead of being a variant of just deflecting. Weapon plays just fine without you ever even using it.Equipping the the Tanuki is honestly a more fun block/parry mechanic already.
>>745986850That reminds me of how the weapons in SoP have their own guard points with unique timings, which changes how you engage with every enemy. I wonder what their reasoning was setting most of the guard points on frame one of the heavy attacks.
>>745983960no but you can cope with fake framesi disabled the games fps optimization or whatever its called there's 2 of them and i'm using amds fsr and framegen and it runs way better(still some stutters but playable)
>>745983782TN is so fucking soulless and creatively bankrupt now.
>>745988115They lost the guy that directed Stranger of Paradise, and he was hyper fixated on difficulty and engaging gameplay systems. Whoever is left is just phoning it in.
>>745986850I'm not sure they could have had the guard points at random spots honestly. First of all it'd go against their design philosophy of low skill floors and high skill ceilings, but more importantly it'd make the more gimmicky and weaker skills it has effectively useless.
need some tips for odachi in nioh2I use mostly high stance quick strong then double cut (forgot the name)I almost never use mid are there any skills I should aim for? also should I care about a secondary weapon besides just having fun using other weapon?
I'm not sure what this is. I might've just forgotten since I haven't played since release.
>>745990754You can use sunset breeze: heaven in mid and low to chain into twin moons. Bolting boar mid-stance is very good; you could try experimenting with skills in the other move slots and other weapons just to get better at the game.
>>745983782I finished the base game yesterday, beat the last boss no my first try. Shit sucks.
>>745990754Switching weapons mid combo is not very important, but you should force yourself to experiment with each stance until you are comfortable. Been a while since I played 2, but I seem to remember a lot of moves that switch your stance and chaining them together helping mitigate the weapon's high Ki usage.
Is the drop increase from Stone of Penance really worth it?
>>745983782>sick guard point sword and board with shield surfing>ninja gun and Hayabusa magicIt was fun. Not having a samurai GS to match the amazing cat girl GS hurts though. Genuinly perplexed they did that.
>>745983782>2 new enemiesI have only seen the dragon, where is the other one?
>>745992619The little toads are new enemy types as well, technically Tesso is new to 3 as well if you count returning enemies.Also there's a lot of reskin enemies that are just outright new enemy types, but nobody counts them for no reason.
UPDATE FOR THE STONE OF PENANCE BUG (Nioh 3)>Previous update/explanation of bughttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/745826948/#q745936620>New findingsYou can't get star affixes from gear in this cursed loot table, don't think you can get +levels on soul cores either. Scrolls don't show up in inventory while you get them but do exist, you just have to exit the mission to see/do them. Also they are very rare, I got 4 of them from one full inventory at the hallway, close to a buff yasakani drop rate despite +400 luck. IMPORTANTLY: This does work for soul matching so a NG+1 Sinister End can get NG+2 for soul-matching concerns and/or NG+1 graces.Honestly, wonder if this works in Nioh 2 since I didn't recall hearing about this there and so whatever logic is in Nioh 3, might exist in Nioh 2.
>>745993834>I got 4 of them from one full inventory at the hallway, close to a buff yasakani drop rate despite +400 luck.iirc demon scrolls are equipment for the purposes of drops, so Luck does nothing for their drop rate except increase the chances of a higher rarity.
>>745992403Yeah if you can deal with all the damage sponge bosses. I wish I could just buff boss ki and damage without sending their health skyrocketing to infinity where it takes a year to down them.
Just learned something about scrolls. If you use rarity inheritance for a divine (can be rolled on any divine scroll) into a purple scroll to make that purple one a divine, it gets a random grace as the 5th affix.
>>745993126Oh i count all of those as new enemies but not really new yokai.Only 1 then? Damn that sucks.
>>745983782Is the odachi still in nioh 3
here is your cute little japanese christian boy, say something nice to him before you execute him!
Should I restart the whole game or just play the DLC?
>>745996414just play the DLC, or play on harder difficulty for funnies
>>745995838There are two entirely new Yokai, which is par for the course with Nioh DLC. Just feels underwhelming because we know they're only doing two DLCs.
>>745984092A lot of that's the Chinese wanting more gameplay and the map to be less green. I guess green means cuck over there or something but I'm unclear
>>745996681Green hat means you're getting cucked in chink slang, has nothing to do with his compliant though.
>>745996884I must have missed it being an issue, then. I assumed they were just seething at the color green generally.
>>745992619>>745993126there’s the dragonthe toadsthe yokai in a box with a long tonguetheres a new samurai soldier Tesso as returning enemythen theres all the new elemental variations of existing enemiesthats already more enemies than any previous Nioh games dlc.
>>745997330Yeah, but people are retarded and don't count reskins that have different movesets as new enemies or content. Otherwise we wouldn't see the enemy variety complaint about the base game either, but here we are.
>>745997584/v faggots arent really people bro, they are barely sentient.
>>745992619What I counted in a different thread with reused enemies>new one-eye dragon>new tongue dwellers>fabricated magaras (they gotta be regular enemies in the next DLC or higher difficulties)>fabricated warriors (sword NPCs with yokai ki, hyperarmor and yokai realm splash)>kelley alchemists>tiny toads (also pronounced "tiny toads")>tesso rats>sword & shield large bandits>splitstaff ninjas>odachi small bandit>(hatchets small bandit, though one of them existed in Nioh 2)>wind jailer onis (small & large)>alchemical gaki chief (ice)>alchemical ippon-datara (lightning)>alchemical karasu tengu (water)>alchemical mermaid (lightning)>alchemical mikoshi nyudo (fire)>alchemical koroka (wind)>alchemical itsumade (wind)
>>745997035The crucible hell assets are ugly as fuck and they keep reusing it, that's valid criticism
>>745997652truket. barely sentient
>>745996543There are, what is the other one besides the dragon? The frog is a retrain of the Ogama so that one doesnt count by the way.
>>745983782>>only 2 new enemies and 1 guardian spiritIs it really that surprising when the vast majority of enemies in 3 are reused from 1 and 2.
>>745999058That's dumb. I bet you wouldn't have held this opinion for Ninja Yoki and Fox Spirits.
>>745999426Ninja Yoki have complete different movesets and yeah fox spirits are retrains from the ninja dogs so they are weird in that technically they are not a new enemy but they were a new yokai when they came out. Nioh2 had 2 (2nd dlc had 3) brand new yokai every dlc besides the retrains.I heard Akaname is in the new dlc but i've yet to see prove they are.
>>745999675>I heard Akaname is in the new dlc but i've yet to see prove they are.They're just dwellers
>>745999787They have totally different moves though. If we're counting Ninja Yoki as different from Yoki then Akaname are different from Dwellers.
>>745999787Oh damn that sucks.>>745999835I would have to see them in action but i consider stuff like Kinki or whatnot as retrains despite being different yokai, so if its a new moveset built from the og moveset then its a retrain.
>>745999675>Ninja Yoki have complete different movesetsAnd there is no regular enemy or Moveset equivalent for Small Giant Toads, Pronounced Small Giant Toads, so they're effectively a new enemy type. There's also different movesets for the Wind Jailer Onis too, so you'd have to count them as new Yokai as well if you count Ninja Yoki for two more from this DLC. Really it's all just splitting hairs for no reason when the only important part is that there is more variety in what you fight either way.
You niggas counting pennies. 80 dorra game 20 dorra DLC. 80% of the game was already taken from the previous games. DLC should've been huge and polished.
>>746000050No, i count those as new enemies, not new yokai as they use previously made models for it, however i did finally found an image of the Akaname and it looks like an entirely new model, not at all like Dwellers, so either that anon lied to me or the moveset is just a Dweller's but modified, only way to tell is with footage but i havent found any.
>>746000464It uses the Dweller model skeleton, but fights with a new moveset.
>>746000287Team Ninja games are notoriously low budget. 80% of Nioh 2 was taken from Nioh 1 as well. They are definitely overpriced for what they offer but I just because I really enjoy the gameplay they offer I'm willing to paypig.
>>745984092I can't trust steam reviews at launch anymore because it's either "Played .2 hours, FUCKING AMAZING!!!" or "Doesn't work to many butons bad...."
>>745988115>now
>>746000562Eh, im not going to believe you now, specially when people said the same thing with Hell Hags in dlc2 of nioh2 and it wasnt the case at all. I only thought you were correct first because they did a retrain of dweller in the base game with those red spirits so it wasnt without precedent, but retrains dont hate complete different sized heads like that pic shows, they are lazier than that.
>>746000765I don't know what to tell you, man. Just like how Yian Kut Ku does Rathian animations, it does things like the Dweller crawling and side jumping animations.
>>746000930Its fine bro, i will just stay skeptical until i see it myself.
How the fuck do you get a hoko with the crucible arts? I got the ninja hoko easy but haven't found a single regular hoko with crucible arts.
>>745991174When you get 4 you get a skill point the next time you use a shrine.
I'm replaying 1 and I forgot how absurd this bug faggot is.
>>746000287>buying full pricelollmao
They should definitely promote their map design team, I think it's top tier for a open world souls like, miles ahead of elden ring. Exploring the map was probably the best part of DLC2. It's the only part that seems to justify the priceReusing assets was ass, I played Nioh 2 again the other day so I didn't even notice the ported Yokai like Tesso and whatever, but another Giant Toad was just...not funny at that point, I think they tried to consider it as a joke, but definitely shouldn't have done it as a major boss in a DLC, 1 out of 2 dedicated arena boss areas should be reserved for something new, not a le funny frog joke.
>>746002349...promote them to what? Out of map design?> but another Giant Toad was just...not funny at that pointSomehow I missed the giant toad in Nioh 2 (I skipped 1), was it the same fight here?
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>>746002448The more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>746001654same way you get any weapon with crucible artsin the crucible.
>>746002434>promote them to whatout of working for an asset flip game.>was it the same fight hereNot exactly, it uses a staff and casts mostly ice ninjutsu, but the way it looks and most of the melee animation are largely the same
>>746002448>>746002498What's the version of this for 2?
>>746002671Thought maybe I was missing something. Grinding hoping for random loot is what killed the endgame of Stranger of Paradise for me, finished everything except the tower or rift or whatever it was called.
>>746002349It wasn't a joke, it was a reference and a nod to the other clan that served the Tokugawas and Iemitsu's mentors. Hanzo Hattori the *Insert one of the numbers" and Yagyu Munenori are our instructors from the base game, and Giant Toad is one of Munenori's descendants.
>>746003154>loreI know, but to the player, it is essentially reused asset, you might as well call the new odachi dude descendant of Magara, or someone trained under him.Like at least give it a different weapon, I'd love to see toads wielding Katana. The staff is essentially same as the spear, all the spin and stab moves are still there
>>746003374NTA but I love my nigga Giant Toad (pronounced Giant Toad) and want him to be in every Nioh game. If there's a Nioh 4 there better be a motherfucking Giant Toad in it.
>>746003374I guess it could have been a frog or something instead with a more obviously different moveset that has a sword and shield, I'm just pointing out that it wasn't just randomly chosen as a joke.
>>745983782Team Ninja obviously didn't want to do a Nioh 3
Im playing this game on one of those pc one handed half keyboard gamepad things and this is hell.
Having played Wo Long recently this felt like a pretty stantard TN dlc. 3 bosses with at least 1 being NPC fight, 3 shortish maps, 1 "overpowered" weapon, 1 or 2 new enemies and 1 guardian spirit, nonsense plot. Could have been better but definitely not the worst I've played.
>>746004192I felt let down because there was tons of assets they could easily port from RotR to inflate weapons and armor count. IIRC, RotR still has the saber + pistol, bayonet, claymore, and chinese broad sword that they could easily recycle. I don't mind reused assets, in fact, I want more reused assets if it means more variety.DLC being standard size is kind of a bummer when there's only 2 dlcs compared to the 3 of nioh 1 & 2.
>>746004192Speaking of, which is the worst TN DLC?
>>746005359>saber + pistol, bayonetYou reminded me of RotR's kick ass pistol finisher. And now I remember its peak fashion. And the godly waifus. And playing as the fun companions.Shame its so mid at the end of the day. Really needed magic or some equivalent renewable items. The open world was so much more annoying than Nioh 3's too despite having a shitty horse and gliding.
its crazy how dead this thread is considering the dlc just came out, its like nobody gives a shit
>>746006786Anon this is the 8th thread
>>746006786Busy playing. Can't speak for others though.
the lack of new mods is concerning
>>746006786/v/ doesn't really care about Team Ninja games in general. The threads are always slow
>>746006786there's been a whole bunch of threads coper, on top of that the game has to compete with duskbloods network test this weekend
>>745996681We need to get china off the internet
>>746007531Nioh 2 had very active threads.
>>746008490/v/ in general is way slower nowadays, anon. I assume this is true on most other boards too, but I don't browse anything else anymore.
>>746005584Since it's fresh in my memory I'm going to say the first Wo Long dlc. First mission was very short, like tutorial level short and the boss was the hammer guy with slightly modified moveset. Second mission I can't even remember what it was like and the boss was just ghost of the yellow turban boss from the main game. Third mission and boss were pretty good but nothing special. New worm enemies were terrible I hated fighting them and those poison/fire dog things were ok. Cestuses were pretty fun though. I guess it's not very fair to compare Wo Long and Nioh 3 directly but I haven't played any Nioh games in many years but having played Wo Long very recently makes it convenient as a comparison.
>>745985663because the average means a lotgames below 80% are almost universally shit. games above 95% are almost universally great
>>746008490Nioh 2 released 6 years ago when the board was much more active and had fewer schizos and browns
Fuck Nioh 3
>>746009383i've learned in recent years that a lot of nioh 2 "fans" are completely retarded
>>745996681He makes a fair point
>>745996681>unironically saying shit like a stereotypical "BLOODY BITCH BENCHOD" jeetChinks and Indians are the same people
>>745983960It's unplayable on a 3060 .
>>745997035Nioh 2 had some issues with over-use of colours. Nioh 3 dialed that up to eleven. I think that's his issue. It looks incredibly cheap and amateurish.
>>746009358To be fair, not that much few schizos and browns. You gotta go much farther back for that.
>>746009554Honestly I think the amrita zones look quite nice, seeing all the different variations for all the areas was nice. It's impressive how each area has a different theme.I am playing with reshade though.
>>746009870>The goop bridgeThis "artstyle" where you have a fantasy goop asset like glowing spikes or magic crystals or alien slime and then you take the most generic low effort prop environment and pour goop over the top of it needs to be banned with penalty of a really hard slap
>>745984092Honestly? As a 3 glazer I say it's deserved. The DLC had a decent map and level design (not artistically and graphically though), but it had new content of a single Nioh 2 DLC for the price of two. The DLC would've been actually good had it been the first one of three, but this was 6 months of wait for absolute breadcrumbs of new original content
>>746010040You would have a point if the "goop" was used like it is throughout most of 1 and 2, but it's not. There's only a handful of areas where it is and they're only minor side segments, the majority of the areas either use it creatively or substitute it with some other aesthetic.
>>746008490It also had less schizos. The worst we had it were people unironically cliqueing and namefagging. Now we deal with the dredges of modern internet society Anyways how are you guys' level 7 penance stone farming going? Are we at the point of hosting hell scrolls yet?
Is Enlightened one the only new difficulty?
The new map is absolutely amazing, among the best levels TN has ever done and the best side quests too
>>746011682Yeah the map is very good. I liked the crucible a lot as well. Easily my favorite stage outside of Golden Castle. But as you fight a shitmon at the end of Golden Castle it easily takes top spot.
>hey shogun, a bunch of revenants want to duel you!>mid-duel, one of the dipshits grows impatient and turns it into 2vs1, but both revenants can harm each other>the fight attracts a bunch of yokai and revenants join you to fight them>it culminates with a fight against a bloodedge + magatsu >the dude who set up this tournament was also dead to begin withProbably the funniest side quest they ever did
>>746011909>Easily my favorite stage outside of Golden CastleHonestly, I don't see it. It's just another Crucible with another gimmick. It's not as annoying as the frosty crucible but I'm not sure I'd describe it as especially great.
>>745992403Stone of penance in 3 doesn't fuck around, build around defense or you will get oneshotted.
>>746012081Combination of enemy use, fighting arenas, and bosses. It even has a mini crucible inside of it. It's one of the few stages in this franchise besides Siege of Osaka (Winter) with a gimmick you have to loosely respect. Except unlike Siege of Osaka (Winter) those gimmicks are over quickly and aren't obnoxiously intrusive. Has every variety of fight arena. Obviously it's no Mausoleum of Evil in regards to level design or artistry. But in terms of pure gameplay? Easily my favorite.
>>746011909Yeah, the crucible is either the best or second best in the game after the final Edo mission in the original, but that one was just pure cinema visually
Completely anecdotal but the most played weapons I've seen online right now are 1kat, Hoko & Shield, Axe, and fists. Onmyo builds are also still popular.There are more Samurai than there are Ninja at high penance stone levels. Close to 2:1. Not many people use soul cores still despite the buff they got.
Omg I remember this location from Rotr !!!
>>746013035Care to explain yourself?
>>746013168I actually don't know what you're showing
>>746013168Ain't no way...
>>746013035I loved this level. In fact i think all Bakumatsu side dungeons are among the best TN has designed mechanically.
>>746013168No fucking way... Chat, is this real???
Ninja hoko and shield seems better at throwing than hatchets, what the fuckEspecially once you get a wind version of the sideway dodge throw move, the elemental values on it are nuts.
>>746015271Hatchets isn't about throwing, it's about the dash-in followup to throwing. You're only throwing to do that attack.
>>746015353Which was stupid, they dumped all of the damage on to that one followup and everything else you do with the weapon feels pointless
>>746015940Greased Lightning spanks too but yeah. Hit-and-run weapon.
Yagyu isn't very pleasant to fight.
>>746016589He is, once you learn his moveset. Dude has a very satisfying back and forth dynamic to his fight. He just has a LOT of moves.
>>746016726It's not the moveset, it's the flow. His entire cadence is a rotr style fight where your entire offense is predicated on the opponent attackingI don't like like that.
>>745986220Sounds like you're projecting. I don't care about any review cause I'm not an NPC and am capable of forming my own opinions.
>>746016589I thought he was one of the very few fun human enemies personally, there's an actual design to the fight instead of just bumrushing you while expecting the player to simply bumrush back with a better combo.
>>746017312I gotta check if you can parry the kick, because if you can then this flips the first phase completely
>>745983782is the dlc area still taking place in purple vomit color area? I was so sick of it by the end of my last playthrough
>>745983782>everyone hated the boring open world parts of the main game>let's add more open world
>>745990754I don't remember the names of the skills but it has some that let you switch stances mid combo into mid and back into high which makes the weapon more fun.
>>746017945You can parry the kick and he'll only ever do it after a side step so you know it's coming. You can parry the sword ki too. But you'll nearly only ever see that as a punishment for attacking his block too much so that's moot.Iai strike will only happen after Night Rain>>746017887To each their own then. I don't like fight designs like this which is why I only purchased RotR once.
>>745983782Can I use creamapi on this dlc? Sure as hell don't want to buy it (maybe if the other dlc is good and brings the farm)
>>746017887This. That's why i liked his fight.
>>746019120yes i used koalageddon
I'm just causally going through the DLC, never did get my yasakani magatama so that's just another thing I gotta look out for.Been having fun, happy I got my tonfa gun back, pissed that I need to use 2 pieces of gear for it.It still shreds at least.
>>746019170Oh, never heard of this one. Thanks, anon.
Oh you can infinitely buy the skill points now, finally i don't have to swap weapon skills around.
They still haven't added ng++++/ethereal sets/underworld/depths?
>when you go Living Artifact with hoko and shield, the character connects a rope with the shield and gets a special combo where he uses it as a quasi kusarigamasovl
>>746019573Rygar lives!
>>746019709Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed, That Reboot Rygar revenant from Nioh 1 can be happy.
>>746002448It's new attack exclusive to ng+ cycles? I don't remember this range attack on original ng run and I never fought against him in ng+ because fuck him.
>Loved Yuan Shao fight and enjoyed it>All streamers rate him very lowI don't mind blindfold boy, but I don't want all fights to be like his
>>746020408I loved that he was basically a medieval mecha.
>>746020408you need to post pics when talking about wo long bosses because i doubt anyone remembers the chinese names
If Wo Long 2's open world is at the same quality as this DLC, i will gladly welcome it.
This shit is apocalyptically badGonna beg TN right fucking now to give it any kind of tracking
>>746020609I disagree>>746020725I won't, open world is cancer and even being linear haven't saved dlc at all
>go to buy the season pass>2 DLCs>season pass is basically double the price of 1 DLCSo what's the point in buying this when it's literally no cheaper?
im still using yamatai sam + hiruko ninja
Alright I've warmed on Etheral Sway. When the last DLC comes out I'll probably have finished my build unless there's some new "too good to pass up for my playstyle" soul cores that release.>>746021814I'm busting my balls trying to get my Tsukuyomi accessoriesNot even a Onmyo build. Not even close. I have 150 intelligence and being able to replenish the buffs I constantly cast will literally change how entire stages and boss fights run when I don't fucking run out of my familiars anymore.
>>746020609No I definitely remember ching chang chong, liang long liang gong and liang bong
>>746015940It has more good moves than just Wild Surge.
>>746020725From what I gather Wo Long 2 is going for a completely different style of open world. In the interviews they mentioned being able to influence the state of the world by capturing different regions and being able to assign your companions to bases and stuff like that. I wonder if they're trying to inject some Dynasty Warriors stuff into it like commanding armies.
>>746022810I'll take a good empires game. We haven't had one of those since 7E
>>746020408isnt Yuan Shao the dude with the turtle shield and ice attacks? yea great fight, but for real Wo Long has many great bosses.
>>746022810Doing something different after a decade of just making the same game with little difference is welcome. These Nioh likes do need to do a bit more to set themselves apart if you ask me.
>>746013035it's an irl location. unlike fromsoftware, team ninja are based and enjoy showing off their love for their country in their games
>>746017417i've noticed midwits love pulling the "projecting" rebuttal whenever a nerve is struck
>>746023903Irony
>>746023986not really
>>746023118yeah him, maybe because he's one of few bosses with dedicated scrollhonestyly, not having scroll for literally every sub boss and boss was massive letdown, after nioh 2, I mean we literally fight snake lady only once for no reason), I spent some time farming himBut turns out a lot of people complaining about him being too easy
Too many human bosses in the DLC
>>746025504Yep.
So end game grinding is just scroll co-op spam huh?3x players shut down any enemy through sheer number of attacks, you get a ton of high quality loot due to the high enemy levels, glory, and a copy of a scroll that the host is farming (not sure if it's this or just a random one from the other players).I got 1 divine scroll through ng++ and 4 rounds of co-op netted me 2 divine scrolls and 2 ethereal scrolls.
>>746026416There is no "endgame" yet.
>>746026416>3x players shut down any enemy through sheer number of attacksYou get double the spawns in co-op and anecdotally speaking most people die miserably on +7 stone boss gauntlets.
>>746002498>>746002448this shit is why i dont like niohdying in 1 hit in a 5 minute fight even from basic weakest enemies is just pure cancer aidsthat and the fucking retarded HP bloat of bosses on higher difficulties, why bother playing when a boss goes form 20k hp to 200k hp, making the fight 5x longer or more
>>746026783Maybe you should try building for survivability
Wo Long plays and flows so well, better than Nioh for me personally. I hope Wo Long 2 is even better.Wo Long Johnsoooooooo
>>746026695For whatever reason, the number of enemies in the scrolls doesn't increase when I compare a co-op run to a single player run on the same scroll.I don't think I've encountered a +7 scroll yet, or at least, of the 4 battles, none of them were particularly hard.
>>746026925I don't understand why Nioh 3 DLC2 is releasing so close to this? Also, there will probably be a demo or two before that...make it make sense. These 6 month gaps between each DLC also dont make sense.
>>746026908why lie kid?in nioh 2 i remember putting everything in dex and putting on heaviest armor, talisman that reduces set requirments, 7 diffrent sets so i had 6k+ hp, 300 toughness for that 25% base dmg reduction, item stats for more reduction, soul core for extra dmg reductrion on absrotpion, and thousands of defense and .... i still died in 1 hitthe problem is that attacks are intentionally made to be multi hit, so first hit will drain your stamina, put you into vulnerable state, and next one will insta kill youon lower difficulties i could survive with like 10-20% on hard attacks, on higher bosses did 5k dmg per hit insta killing me on the spot and multiple attacks pierce blockthe game scaling is fucking retarded, enemies as i wrote get 10x stronger on higher difficulties, while you maybe tripple in your stats at best
>>746019548Remember when Nioh 2 actually got them anon.PC had to wait since it was exclusive to Playstation before it was bundled with everything for us.
>>746005584Bahamut in SoP probably
>>746027113It used to be shorter back then.
>>746027060Odd. Most missions I do that aren't boss only scrolls have more enemies. There's one I have that spawns two of those stupid fucking dragons in the tiny alchemy octangle room so everything they do anywhere hits you. It was a horiffically unfun experience so naturally I kept it and favorite it and inflict it to peopleSpeaking of inflicting, I mean +7 penance stone. You can only join games up to the highest level of stone you achieved so there's not many people hosting +7 rooms and fewer joining but the ones that do always want to run some fucking bullshit. Like Kunimatsu, Kagetoki, Yagyu. Do you know how hard life is running a LA build into that shit?
>>746027556I only remember bahamut mode was cool so obviously you're wrong.
Can I soul match gear to lvl 180 at some point or is 170 the max?
>>746028040not that anon but that was the DLC where literally you just go through the game again and fight Bahamut twice. That's the DLC.
yea
>>746028197Probably need to complete the game on the hardest difficulty to get that, though you'll be picking up 180 before that
>>746028612>though you'll be picking up 180 before thatYeah, probably, but I have a great build going on right now and I'd rather just level that up
>>746027376Two things I will ask as I'm not OP.>NG+I have a tank build in N1 for NG+2, even had a quirky one for N3 NG+1 that around the time all the DMG-reduction on attack got nerfed. For N1, and likely 2, I find that full tank builds will work if you build smart, not hard (admittedly on early NG+ cycles, haven't tried building it on later ones like Wise/Nioh). DMG reduction is the big thing here over raw HP when able (ideally stack both but the former over the latter), and you can lead more towards conditional DMG reduction effects like (When Attacking), DMG reduced (Amrita absorbed with amrita on strong attack elsewhere), etc. for even more. Finally if on a later NG+ cycles, Stone of Penance level because I do remember that shit scaling hard and is where I find "blend or be blended" situations in N3 (barely have the damage for +3 at present).>Healing?I currently have a nigh "tank" ninja build in N3 because I'm running Kusarigama master (all pieces but head, that's black fox Inari to squeeze damage) and put DMG reduction on everything. The end result of this is that little will one-shot me, even on +3 cursed bosses in Heian (and if on +0, I actually do just stonewall everything so far). But what makes me truly tanky is that every hit I take, I can bounce off thanks to my double Nuppeppo + other amrita absorption giving me about 30 life per, life steal on attacks on weapon, and life steal on backstab (for now, plan to drop Kusari master for Last Ninja when I get my inari scroll for a lot more damage because the backstab stuff isn't as consistent as I liked), leading it where I can recover from hits that I've taken.>>746028197Likely no at present, the 180 being a high roll drop for gear that is functionally a free +1 divine level but shouldn't be too important over star affixes/graces. Similar to the 170 gear back at base end game where you could only soul match to 160.
>>746028197170 is the max for soul matchingGetting the grace you want on a 180 is going to drive you insane.
>>745983782>120 dollars for the complete gameYeah I'm not sure that's worth it dude.
>>746028258ok then perhaps he has a point
>>746029021>think you are joking>check steam>its 135$lollmoawtf
>>746029361>burgers pay moreI keep forgetting steam does that.Anyway, yeah even if the dlc wasn't getting flak koei can blow me. Love me nioh, but get real.
>>746009383Ahem... fuck Nioh 3 (fixed)
>>746006786I have no interest in this dlc. The weapon looks stupid, and I haven't looked into the set bonuses to see if any are better than the pure unga setup
Now that I'm done getting my ass whooped. The final thoughts of shift builds are that they're in a decent enough spot against yokai and are in a struggle spot against humans. WIth my build right now I can LA once a phase against most yokai bosses. The actual LA set though, Marici, is hot garbage. The 7 piece gives around 20-25% percent recover. So you're maybe meant to use it with short shifts to give you ~ 9s LA that you then refill from ~60-65%. But flashing LA like that isn't like flashing YS. You don't set up the next shift like you did by stockpiling floating amrita. You gotta build that shit back up again. Yokai at a certain amount of amrita gauge you guarantee a shift every ki break while on humans this is far more viable but far more useless because at this point any other set gives you more damage.
>746029725Nobody replied to your shitty bait image so you felt the need to post it again?What's it like trying so hard and getting none of those sweet (You)s for your effort?
>>746030373Nobody replied because Nioh 3 killed nioh threads Dogshit game for retards
>>746030826
>>746030373an indirect (you) is still a (You)Let him seethe impotently in random responses.
>>746030916>Mostly Negative (214)
>>746030916NTA but Nioh 3 is objectively a bad nioh sequel (it's an okay game) priced $80. Paying more for less. It's been catering to souls-like tourists, too elden ring-ified, resulted in a game that's... just there. Nothing else.
While I hate nioh 3, after checking rune factory thread, I began to appreciate you fags more, lol
>bitch ass nigga calling me a coward while shooting at me from a boat a mile away
>>746032304But you DID shoot him. Cowardly stuff, anon
>>746031343Don't use the word objective. I think it has the best combat yet, making it the best nioh game yet.
Is there some fast way to raise your penance stone level?
>>746032975Put in a divine and do co-op visitors, searching specifically for hosts with a stone open. I did a bunch of my own scrolls personally.
>>746032442Best combat you say? By splitting the gameplay into two? With overpowered deflects? With how braindead ninja is? They ruined so many weapon types, too. And even if it has the best combat, there is nothing in the game for said combat except 2-3 bosses at most.You know what? Yeah I agree with you. It has the best combat... for casuals.
>>746032975luckshit a scroll with an easy boss as the first enemy.I got one with a wooden sword Hanzo that has little HP who just dies.Tried to grind him for loot, but because he has his own set, I just got a ton of Iga pieces instead.
>>745988676who was he and has he worked on any other games since?
>>746033246https://stinger-magazine.com/interviews/interview-with-the-director-of-stranger-of-paradise-nobumichi-kumabe/As far as I can see he hasn't done anything new lately, and his attempted indie game seems to have not progressed.
>>745983782Nioh 3 is a recycled outdated asset garbage
>>746033113Yeah best combat. More options and depth is better. Deflect is sick, Nioh 2 lacked defensive options compared to SoP. Nothing in the game is an insane statement.
How many swords can you equip in 3?
>>746024169>But turns out a lot of people complaining about him being too easyHe's one of the few bosses who got buffed, and the masses only care about on-release opinions
Been using talons some more since I didn't use them much in the base game. They should give you more ways to use White Tiger Claws instead of it only being after Archers Impact. Maybe after Whirling Tiger, the last jab of Mist Slash, and/or the aerial ground pound skill. Maybe make an upgrade to it that performs a grapple if it depletes remaining ki, sort of like talons in NG2. Also they should let you use Dancing Kick from cestus because it would combo nicely after the jump version of Flying Buck. Senju Rush should get a wind version that shoots out short range wind blades with each slash to help give it more forward reach and vertical reach for short enemies. They are still fun though but those are some random suggestions.
I bet it was really really tried hard to get something out of this era since its about a basically nothing burger rebellion compared to the upcoming one for the Shimabara rebellion, but even that was only controversial in punishment
>>745983782>body type>censored designed>goys, is this game bad?Yes, retard.
Blessed online scrolls giving me exactly what I want
>>746037480Shamone-desu. I should beat Nioh 2 one of these days.
>finally FINALLY get the fucking Yasakani Magatama I want>Spend another 10 hours grinding the mirror I want>Lock both>trade all my gear for clan progression>except I didn't lock bothAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>746037648>the mirror I wantHuh? What mirror?
>>746037837
does anyone know anythingi am sick and fucking tired of vague wording with 0 clear numberslike the stone of penance for example>makes things harderhow harder? what the fuck does it DO>in exchange for more rewardshow many rewards? 1% more drops? 3%? is that additive or multiplicative or flat or something other thing?
Just finished all nioh 1 missions. If I jump into nioh 2, how fucked am I? Probably going to take a break for a few days before that.
>>746027376>>746026783in nioh 3 i take -12% damage in general and then 80% less damage when attackingbosses tickle me for 100hp (i have 4500) while i tornedo edge them to death
>>746002498>ninjoiddeserved
>>746040406>how harder? what the fuck does it DOGo get hit to find out>how many rewards? 1% more drops? 3%? is that additive or multiplicative or flat or something other thing?pic related
>>746040650>no answer>also no answervery helpful
>>746040425>If I jump into nioh 2, how fucked am I?I don't see how you would be fucked
>>745983782Please tell me they added the alchemist outfit for the MC
>>745983782SnS sucks though.
>>746043943
>>746044378FUCK
Does he not have unique armor ??
>>746044894https://nioh3.wiki.fextralife.com/First+Captain+SetThis one?
>>746045059It's that one I guess, weird that it doesn't drop from him. Also no unique skill, he's the coolest guy from Bakumatsu
>>746044716Nioh 3 is dog shit for good armour choices. Might genuinely be the worst of any of the TN games. I seriously have no idea why TN keep regressing when it comes to visuals since NIoh 2.
its just a reskin, but I like vice shogun's armor a nice bright red colour on heavy armor with the family crest on it
>>746046716thumbnail made me think this was onimusha for a sec
How do I auto disassemble..
>>745983782I never play Nioh DLC's personally, but I do enjoy the Nioh franchise. I've played all 3 and HAD A BLAST every time. 3 was fun, but I still had more fun with the second game.
>>746047886now that you mention it, I kinda hate how samurai fantasy is taken over by edo era warrior fashion of whatever robes they've been wearing for years and only washing it when they can...
>>746002498>TFW defeated every Demon of Emotion I was quite proud of myself. I'm not even super good at Nioh games despite playing all of them, but some people play the game way more complex than I do. I just spam shit or use the same 2-3 techniques. I'm not skilled enough to move around and use 15+ different moves and weapons.
>>745991389>126 gbjesus
there will never be a nioh again after this crap
>>745983782 I wish they just made Nioh 2 but better. Shit sucks.
>>746051395I will personally fund Nioh 4
>>745983782>1 guardian spirit for ninja>samurai got jack shitWhat the FUCK are they doing at Team Ninja?
>>746053002>Unlock Tengen Kujaku>spirit associated with Nobunaga, who is clearly a samurai archetype>it's a ninja spirit>DLC comes out and has one more spirit for ninja and fuckall for samuraiI just don't fucking get it man, I expected them to do way more with the guardian spirit system. Tengen should've at least been a both styles spirit like Ho and Oh are
>>745983782Just beat NG++ DLC. It was pretty fun but way too easy (my SoP is only at level 3, I'm sure the bosses will fuck my ass on higher levels)
>What the FUCK are they doing at Team Ninja?Not even the bare minimum
>>746053456I had a bad feeling the split samurai/ninja system was going to be rough for the first game but I didn't expect them to neglect one side for the other. Why not have each guardian spirit work for both sides?
>>745983782so far I've fought jubei, giant toad, kasha, enenra and onmoraki. i guess the new dragon enemy is kinda cool but this is just making me tired.
>>746048312you to set it up in the options menu
>beat NG++ without dying>got absolutely raped by kamaitachi after
im on ng++ in lies of p questioning why i am still playing. soulslikes are boring after ng+
>>746059057I always start a fresh playthrough in usual soulslikes but not Nioh since it's not even really a NG+ since the game just keeps going in terms of progression.
>that side quest with Maeda's descendant and 2 MujinasSomeone give the man who designed side quests a raise
monkey knife fight simulator will be game of the year.
>>746059224?
>>746059343!
Any idea what I could be missing? Not seeing anything on the map or anywhere else
>>746060018maybe the one where you have tontravel to different time periods to collect the ingredients for the alchemy potion
>>746060018Just found it, coincidentally it was the one >>746059202 was talking about
How does this work? Are they getting it off my grave or something?
Do you guys follow the story and overall lore of this game? I've tried at the beginning but lost all connections and the path after few hours. I can't concentrate after finally beating a boss and right after they throw tons of lines at me god damn
How does one even get here?
Team Ninja is honestly just phoning it in at the moment. Genuinely name 1 ressoj that justifies Nioh 3's existence. The whole game feels like the equivalent of shuffling papers around on a desk and then selling that as another game. There's zero meaningful iteration like how Nioh 2 was to Nioh 1.
>>746061998Nah man, magic power crystals and corruption has got to be the most boring story setup in general and even that they tell in such a dry manner.
>>746062138It's the best game TN has made and by far the best and most refined combat system and build crafting. You're a contrarian who doesn't have a single original thought in his head.
>>746062354lol good one
>>746062531Exactly the response I'd expect from someone with no actual opinions.
>>746061998It's unique setting like amrita is pretty generic. The general story also follows real history, so if you have enough experience with the era, it's not too hard to follow.If you don't I think it would be best not to care, Nioh's writing is pretty ass with or without the historical context.
>>746062086You have to go through the adjacent zone to access the path, don't worry about it if you just started
>>746062354true>>746062270crying about established tropes in things known and loved for their tropes has to be one of the most retarded nigger faggot tropes ever bro.
>>746063606>crying about established tropes in things known and loved for their tropes has to be one of the most retarded nigger faggot tropes ever bro.?
>>746009383you shut your whore meme, SoP was kino
>>746026925fuck the morale system in the ass, wo long was shit
>>746048616>30 fpsanon...
>>746060918Yes. And/or you co-op'd with somebody and so your scroll spread across the internet like a virus
>>745988676he left?
>>746066580he right
>they made it even easier to ki break enemiesFor what purpose?
>>746070109Preventative patch to bring down Kagetoki and Kunimatsu. The former required a disproportionate amount of risk/reward to break and the latter couldn't break at all if he decided to walk backwards.
>>746070109Did they? Enlightenment bosses have stupid amounts of ki and with their ki regen in the dark realm, I can't break them without buffs and debuffs.
>>746070513nta but strength impacts ki damage more (to a useful amount instead of useless amount)Most humans don't have 150 intellect + water amounts of natural ki recovery, and all the humans that could attack forever with 0 ki use but still recovered it instantly (Takeda SHingen, Kagetoki, Kunimatsu, & Soji) now actually use Ki on their attacks.
Bring her back
On no yeah. I'm having a great time not getting the mirror I want yet. This is fantastic.
Trying out Expedition Mode for the first time to get through NG+ as fast as I can, it's fun in a weird way. Kinda nice to just turn your brain off and sprint around spamming attacks without really caring about dying
>>746075220how good are the new graces and what's the new grinding spot I gotta get back in and finish the DLC now that duskbloods test is over
>>746075220How about you stop wishing for it to drop and it will finally drop?
>>746076323It's scrolls. It's all picture scrolls. They have graces and have lucky drops for an equipment slot. You want a combo of both. It's (usually) that easyUnless you're meThen you'll NEVER get the grace you want
Janomecho wife
>>746077624Put her in the fucking gameUnsplit the teamsI wish Yumia didn't flop as hard as it fucking did making KT destroy that studio and draft people out of TN
>>746077767>FlopIt was moderate success and KT clearly decided to bet on setting and gameplay.If anything, it's impossible to maintain high sales while focusing on pc gamers, they just aren't reliable for that. And so any long term franchise that puts them first, will slowly wither, as we saw with ateleir games since sophie.There a good reason why rockstar always release their games on consoles first
>>746077917Huh so you're right. I don't know where the rumor to the contrary came from. I'm looking at their financial report and the game not only did strong it fucking carried them that year.Why the fuck did they cannibalize some of TN then?
>>746078089That's what every publisher does, intentional or not. They displace developer divisions until everybody originally associated with the name is replaced by new hires.
>>746078889Huh. Learn something new every day.Anyways I finally got my mirror in the middle of a sick grind session with a cool dude.
>>746064857Morale has nothing to do with how the game feels to play but I agree fuck morale, not because it exist but because implementation was not that good. I can forgive them for morale during main and side missions as I personally enjoy exploring Wo Long levels and my adhd wont let me finish the mission until I get every flag...but morale in endgame mode was so bad, you either get nuked or you easily nuke everything yourself
what's the best effect reduce mod? i tried a reshade chink one and i don't think it worked at all
>>746002448>hard to dodge>easy to blockits those little nioh things
I beat the DLC on base difficulty and I'm up to Bakumatsu in the second difficulty. What should I be doing? I'm just trying to soul match my gear to 160 +15 but cash is tight. I assume getting through the game/DLC and starting on the third difficulty is the plan? Can I do anything to turbo charge my build? I played nioh 2 after all the DLCs and basically just rushed through difficulty 2 because you got better shit in difficulty 3.
>>746080662Unless you want to use one of the new graces/sets just pick pieces that are even moderately good and upgrade them. This'll be more than enough until it's time to start farming at high penance stone
>>746079482It's an overblown complaint 99% of the time, but the randomizer endgame mode having Morale is completely fucking stupid. It starts at extremely fucking hard and praying you get an easy first boss, to just casually melting things.
>>746081084I'm basically assuming that we'll get ethereal gear in DLC 2 so I just want to have a good enough set for farming that. I've got a duel swords set and my extra gear has matching graces. I've not bothered much with modifying the skills yet.
>>745983782Don't forget that it costs twice as much as Nioh 1 and 2's DLCs did each. Sure there's more "content" but holy shit if every optional boss wasn't a rematch from the base game.
>>746046632shock troop set is their best looking armor tho
>>746081909Nioh 1 and 2 DLCs were 10 bucks each?
>>746082091Yea scratch that, I was basing it on individual dlcs but the season pass made them like 7 bucks each. Nioh 3 dlcs cost 3x as much.
>>746082185To be fair games didn't cost 80-90 bucks when 1 and 2 came out either. Everything's fucked now
>>746082185What is this math? It's twice as expensive just in terms of flat money, but that doesn't tell us much of anything about the actual cost of it or how much content you get for each dollar.
>>745996013YesIt's stronger than ever thanks to Arts Proficiency
>you get hayabusa's stuff without fighting the ancestorfuck this DLC, completely soulless cashgrab
>>746064930You do know that in photo mode it drops the FPS to 30 FPS, right? It's strange you didn't know that.
>>746083594I don't take screenshots of my action figures
>>746083631Not my problem. Nioh games are the only game I use photo mode and enjoy taking action shots of my character.
>>745996681>>745996884Red+green is considered a horrible and tasteless color combination in the Chinese culture. Google 红绿配 for more information.
>>746083631So insecure.
>>746083786Nah I just suck at taking good screenshots
>>746081427Yeah, well said about endgame loop. I realised too late into it that you can actually buy 2 upgrade levels for your starting morale at any point even on a fresh new checkpoint so you can get at least +8 and that puts you at 28 and later after you do first 1000 miles there's one more upgrade available in the shop and that can put you at 3+5+7 I think so thats 15 morale boost so it's not hard anymore when you start but by the end of each 10 miles you are almost always over leveled with morale so it never gets hard pretty much.It's still fun but enemy variety drags it down eventually and I don't understand what even is the point of them giving you even higher upgrade levels for gear when only way to get it is to enable a hidden hard mode that does fuck and on top of that those higher upgrade levels only adjust defense and attack power so they don't even introduce any new diablo slop to play around with, terrible design choices but still more fun than Underworld in Nioh 2. In Nioh 2 enemies on each floor are not even randomized and once you reach depths you can go straight to the boss anyway just to get 1 tapped if you don't have a good cheesy build unless you want to really get good at the game, but Ive done all that already, Ive put over 2K hours into Nioh 2 alone and Ive tried everything that catched my interest. Picture Scrolls were always way more fun for me and I tried them with a randomizer mod at one point, that shit is borderline retarded once mobs get swapped with dojo masters lmao.
>>746083879You should at least be using photo mode to examine models closely, there's some really neat details to find.
RONINNNN WARRRRIORRRRRR
>>746083551They should rename the game to Cuck 3 with how little it has to do with proper Nioh games
>>745983782Finished Nioh 3 main story and have 1 question. Should the last boss of the game be so piss easy?Holy fuck. His every move just screams to deflect it from first try. His HP pool is so shallow that I thought there is second phase after it. The first fight was 4 times more challenging. Otakemaru mogs that Dio sounding sisterfucker so hard that it's just painful.
>>746083551completely soulless if they dont put him in the second dlc
>>746083668living artifact is so cool bros...
>>746084381
What do you have to do to get the Maria skin, do you have to beat the game on the new difficulty?Also kind of weird we don't get Jubei's second spirit for beating him in his specific side mission when there's like 3 guardian spirits minimum in the next DLC because of it instead of just the 1 we get in this dlc
>>746084602I got it after beating the DLC on NG
>>745983782The problem is that all the DLCs are meaningful and add depth to the gameplay; even the base version of Nioh 2, which is a great game, feels kind of incomplete without the weapon DLCs. But KT/Sony’s pricing is fucking scummy. Thankfully, if KT is still in the physical media business, we’ll have a damn cheap version of the game next year.
>>745983782They have been on a steady decline since Nioh 2 and I don't expect things to change with Wolong 2.
>>746084602isn't his other spirit just the samurai dog?
>>746062354Indeed, but I don't think he was talking about Nioh 2.
>>746062138>zero meaningful iterationslol, I'm actually reading this. Nioh 3, ROR, WK, and SOP are all meaningful iterations of Nioh 2.
>>746084017but anon, its nioh 3 and you are LITERALLY the top of the top in leadership of the japanese military dictatorship go play ROTR again...
Im surprised no one is complaining that shiro amakusa and basically all the spanish characters lack any cross on them disassociating christianity on any of these characters considering what we're about to DO to them, but also removing and avoiding history atleast william had a reason to be rewritten as a irish pagan
So this price is a scam, right?
>>746086131There's 5$ worth of content, so yes
>>746086131>scamLearn to speak English and actually play any of the Niohs before posting, please.
I just started NG+, should I be messing with stone of penance yet? I've got no real build set up as I was just using whatever gear was highest level for NG. Would using a +1 or +2 stone even be worth it yet?
>>746086258>actually play any of the Niohs before postingWhich other Nioh DLC is sitting at Mostly Negative (226)?
>>746085903christians don't exist in the setting
Didn't even know the DLC was out, really wasn't a fan of 3.
>>746085903Shiro will be a good boi dindu that was manipulated by evil moustache spanish man. Screenshot this.
If Team Ninja made an isometric/fixed camera game with diablo sloppa would you play it?
>Wasn't feeling the Hoko at first in either Style>Came around to enjoying Ninja Hoko, but it felt like an iterative blend of 2nKat + Hatchet>Samurai Hoko felt both very underwhelming in terms of having any fun gimmicks, and extremely trivializing because it armors through everythingI think they went overboard with nearly every attack having the Repel effect in addition to indefinite guard points. I can spam Strong and whatever Skills and they're almost guaranteed to repel anything coming my way. And the running charge attack can turn on a dime while completely negating damage, compared to the other weapons' charge attacks. With its Revenge variant in Arts Proficiency, it's almost an auto-win against any boss that doesn't grab often.Love the Splitstaff even more now.
Surely there will be more new bosses in DLC 2, r-right?There's a lot to cover. At the very list there will need to be a boss fight against Amakusa, some new yokai or human-turned-yokai boss, Maria (the DLC is set in the past so she will be alive then, surely they did not bring her back only to have her killed in a cutscene) and Rodrigo.
>>746087051I'm a certified Team Ninja goy and will buy everything they make (unless it's from a genre I don't like)
>>746086398Just try it, if it gets too hard, turn it off.
>>746085903I really don't care after much whitewashed nioh 3 protag, considering he murdered rival heirs since before he even hit teens historically
>>746087427Well, there 6 months until dlc release, so they have a lot of time
There really should have been 3 DLCs like for all their other games. I naively thought that because there's only 2 each will have more content but that's not the reality we live in.
>>746088013>There really should have been 3 DLCsYou shills have no shame
>>746088087>you're a shill if you want more content for the price you paidWords have no meaning anymore...
>>746088013Open world maps demand way more effort and time, compared to streamlined onesYou literally want them to do more work for less money, why the fuck would they?I don't want to defend nioh 3 devs because game is meh, but holy shit you are entitled piece of shit
>>746088160>pretending that it woulndn'tve been an extra 20$
>>746088175>You literally want them to do more work for less moneyIdeally I would've wanted them to scrap the open world slop for the DLCs and give us actual new content to enjoy, but this is modern TN we're talking about here
>>746088175That's not an excuse to make an extremely bad DLC when literally no one asked for the open world maps
>>746088175>>746088087what the fuck is wrong with nioh 3 fanatics
>>746087249Making a DLC weapon OP has been a Nioh staple since one. (See odachi and fists)
>>746088013It does have more content than the other DLCs though, the old games had like 10 missions total to a DLC and most of them were incredibly short or garbage.
>>746088950>more recycled contentFtfy. They didn't even bother bringing back any missing bosses from 1 or 2, instead they reused the same ones we fought in base 3 lmao
>>746089048Man, you haven't even played the DLC have you? Sorry, I thought you were a genuine anon and not the usual shitposter.
>worst nioh gets worst dlcPoetry. I wonder what happened to the old team who made Nioh 1 & 2.
>>746089323Which ones did they bring back that weren't in 3 already? Genuinely curious if I forgot one
How does rerolling graces work and why can I only select it some of the time
>>746089323Oh shit I forgot about Giant Toad
>>746089048>They didn't even bother bringing back any missing bosses from 1 or 2Imagine forgetting the realist nigga Giant Toad (pronounced Giant Toad)
>>745983782>new weapon is overpoweredbut is it FUN tho?
Apologize.
>>746089883>is it FUN tho?It's like a Hatchets mixed with Fists situation where it's crack cocaine for people who completely fall in love with them, but also somehow simultaneously too complex and too brain-dead for the average player to enjoy.
>>746089942I always liked Ronin, but I like Nioh 3 more.Nothing to apologize for.
>>745983782shit gamethey doing too muchdoesnt work
These threads just add to the pile of reasons why SEA and China need to be wiped off the face of the earth
>>746089942I miss your bayonet so much.
>>746089942way better than nioh 3, i cant believe they didn't put a bigger emphasis on bakumatsu and its characters just copy it from rotrthey didn't even put this shit in, soji doesn't have a unique weapon art, you never meet ryoma, just so many missed opportunities when you have everything in the katana engine to copy moves fromall in all nioh 3 is a really really really lazy game
>>746089942I never played it cause Elden Ring made me realize I hated open world games. Nioh 3 made me realize I don't actually hate open world games, I just hate bad open world games so I think I'll give it a try after I'm done with Nioh 3 and Wo Long 2.
>>746089942Based.
>>746089942I still haven't booted it up and probably never will
>>746090470RotR also has a terrible open world filled with exclusively garbage side objectives that go on several times longer than the should, but it's somewhat saved by the other parts like combat, character customisation, missions, etc.
Nioh 3 mogs ROTR and Nioh 2
>>746090567RotR world may be a slog but its artistic and beautiful if you exclude the terrible lightning in some spots. It's a sight seeing essentially: the game + fun gameplay.Nioh 3 looks like someone puked on a screen half the time.
>>746090425looking at rotr screenshots makes me depressed even they put a ninja gaiden character and a whole moveset based on itnioh 3 just gave us izuna drop randomly
RotR was made with love and was in development for a long time. You can shit on it if you don't like it but you can't say Nioh 3 doesn't look and feel like a quick asset reuse cashcrab with no soul.
>>746090870cashgrab*
>>746090870It doesn't, because I'm not an autistic fuckwadRonin fucking sucked, game was a complete joke at launch and it never changed in any meaningful way, no amount of chink circlejerking will make Nioh 3 a bad game
>>746090693>It's a sight seeing: the gameYeah, because that's all you can do besides EA minigames and towers. You can't even simply enter and look around the historical sites, they're just lame wastes of time to visit. Terrible taste all around.
>>746090950As I said you can shit on it if it's not your cup of tea, but Nioh 3 is a disappointment on almost all fronts and only because it's a 3rd game in the series. On it's own it's a good game and still better than most other garbage if you value videogames for what they are supposed to be valued for but as a Nioh game it's mid and TN dropped the ball here, but it's mostly on Koei being greedy so you can't blame developers when they are forced to spew out a quick product every year.
>>746090940nioh 3 being soulless everyone knows
>>746091272it's pointless arguing with the nioh 3 tard he really thinks this game is gods gift and everyone else is the same guy hating on it
>>746091272And you can shit on Nioh 3 if it's not your cup of tea too, but that doesn't make your vague claims true.
Nioh 2.5 wouldve been enough, just a third game but with more content and qols.If not then they should've waited for a bit and do a reboot or something with entirely new concepts, systems, animations etc.
>>746091536Everything I said is true, Ronin is game made with love and passion while Nioh 3 is a quick cashgrab with some questionable design choices with aim to please normies, straying away from your niche audience is not how you do a proper follow up to a well established series with audience that has a very specific taste in videogames and the products you provide.
>>746091717You do not speak for the audience. At a bare minimum you need to explain how it meaningful differs in your opinion.
>>746091272>if he keeps saying it over and over maybe it'll become true Literally the only people shitting on this game and the dlc in particular are third worlders with no real opinions, you wanna be a third worlder?
>>746090525Loser.
>>746089942I remember this having a gigantic difficulty jump about halfway through
>>746009735It's not, you're just retarded. The game is CPU bound. 3060 almost certainly means you have a low to mid range processor that is 2-5 generations behind. Not surprised you can't run it, poor.
>>746090567RotR walked so Nioh 3 and Wo Long 2 could run.
>>746015271>doesn't know how to use hatchets>new weapon seems better than old weapon I don't know how to useclassic /v/
>worst DLC for their worst gameEverything seems in order here... Carry on!
>>746092269That would be the Stranger of Paradise DLC.
>>746092269They put out a new DLC for wo long Johnson?
Can't wait for Wo Long 2 demo so we can finally forget and stoo talking about this abomination of a game.
>>746092321their worst game is easily wo long
>>745983782>only 2 new enemiesDidn't Nioh 1 use the same 4 enemies for like first half of the game and people liked it? Creative use of enemies > more enemy types.
>>746092349is it open world?
>>746092561Yeah, but Wo Long levels were already very big and open. I don't think it's supposed to be 1:1 to Nioh 3, they even mentioned some stuff where you can but your companions in charge of certain parts of the map or something and how stuff you do in one part will reflect in other part of the map...I think they should just go with very open maps that resemble battlefields where game takes place but we will see, looks promising.
>>746092971I just hope it doesn't run even worse than Nioh 3
>>746093018You know it won't match the desired standards, games will be cpu bound with terrible utilisation until they change the engine or fix it. I hope they don't force framegen down our throats again.
>>745983960>modern koei>optimizationLol they completely abandoned Ronin in disastrous state do you really they give a fuck about optimizing Nioh 3?
>>746089942Fuck off
Did Hoko&Shield get any armor sets specific to it like Spear has with Peerless Combatant? I'm assuming no since I didn't find one yet.
>>746093142Ronin runs great if you are on Win 11 and dont have a shit cpu. That one update where they fucked over windows users and then was fixed made performance a bit better.I really do think if you plan on playing TN pc ports now and in the future you owe yourself to upgrade your CPU or just everything in general before prices go even more to shit.
>>746009554Nioh 3 is the ugliest piece of shit game I've ever seen.
>>746092349When Wo Long 2 comes out all of you shitposters will be calling it the worst thing ever and saying that Nioh 3 was good, actually. Screenshot this.
>>746093382nah its a beautiful looking game bro, what game are you comparing it to?
>>746093425As long as it's not open world I'll be more happy with it than nioh 3.Especially outside of lack of content, I really enjoyed first game
>>746029725Based.
>>746093570It is open world though. Better get your shitposts and copypastas ready for February/March 2027
>>746093570its open world bro so too bad youll remain a miserable faggot lol
>>746093535>>746093651damn I don't think you have enough blurry effects on
>>746093651>>746093649nioh 3 defense force has arrived
>>746093649>>746093651You are aware that anon who posted here about it being open world and revamped moral system just shitposted, right?
>>746093742wipe the tears off youre yellow face bro maybe thatll help
>>746093793It is open world or open field what ever the fuck it is, it's not a shitpost we do know morale is still in but we don't know how it works. I bet it's gonna be ass again.
>>746093853hahaha please post more screenshots
all wo long needs to do is make the game hard and have a bit more thought put into the enemies placement, nioh 3 is so braindead the only way you can die is by canons that one shot you
>>746093570Don't worry, the Producer of Wo Long 2 is one of the Directors of Ninja Gaiden 4. He said in his recent interview that open-world exploration is boring and sucks ass (nioh 3, rise of the ronin) and that he is designing the open-world maps of Wo Long 2 as a "dynamic battlefield", so if you do one thing in a part of the map, everything else changes and adapts, so there won't be any traditional open-world exploration, this new method will give the open-world exploration of Wo Long 2 a sense of purpose.We will have to see if he can deliver, but the fact that he has the backbone and artistic dignity to say that open-world exploration is garbage makes me optimistic, of course he is a Ninja Gaiden chad and is injecting a lot of Ninja Gaiden elements into Wo Long 2.I don't like modern team ninja at all, but Wo Long 2 might be the best game they ever will create, eternally humiliating the garbage nioh franchise.
>>746094179>major right wing soulsborne pro players hated wo long for being too hard and unfair>let's make game harderYOu aren't very smart, aren't you?
>>746093762>defense force bro kt has been making games with this same philosophy and fashion since before your whore of a mother and dark as a moonless night nigger of a father shitted you out. there is nothing to defend here bro, you have been on your same bot programming ever since wo long was released and Team Ninja keeps on releasing some of the best games made. I really do wonder if you faggots are truly bots in the very literal sense, maybe just a crippled miserable fag whos only escape from his hellish existence is to shitpost, or maybe glow niggers whos purpose is to just spread discord, or maybe seething chinks angry that no one outside their hive country cares about their products. guess I just have to accept Im stuck here lmao.
>>746092349Yeah I'm sure chinky is looking forward to the chink game sequel
>>746094303Who the fuck cares about streamers
>>746094303>major right wingDoes this just mean "chink and southeast asian" coming out of your mouth?
>>746094179they couldnt even port the ideas for onmyo systems from Wo Long man, lazy ass bitches...if we got a 3rd style as an Onmyoju that wouldve been rad as fuck. And please for fucks sake TN clear up that left trigger from ranged weapon input not a single soul uses that shit for anything but sniping mooks in the head and that shit is OP and a dumb crutch that has no place in these games
>>746094270>but the fact that he has the backbone and artistic dignity to say that open-world exploration is garbageExact quote where he said that?
>>746094402He means Assmongold probably.Also Wo Long wasn't hard. It was much easier than Nioh 3
>>746094361Zoomers? Aka people who buy games.
>>746094423And where's the source for him being NG4 director, like the guy that TN just placed in charge to oversee Platinum? That guy had nothing to do with game's development.
>>746094403Always like how in Dark Souls if u used a bow you had to time your shots to enemy movement or bait their attacks so you land a headshot while locked on, would love to see Team Ninja let me do that.
>>746094423>“Regarding the monotony of open-world exploration, this time it basically depicts an entire battlefield. Changes on the battlefield will affect the outcome of the battle, causing changes in other parts of the scene as well. I think this will alleviate the monotony to some extent.”Found this.
Outside of Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty (2023), where Masakazu Hirayama and Hidehiko Nakajima were both credited as directors:Masakazu HirayamaNinja Gaiden 4 (2025) — Director / Co-director (with PlatinumGames’ Yuji Nakao; Team Ninja collaboration). He has other credits (e.g., game design on Dead or Alive 5 titles, battle/player combat design lead on Dissidia Final Fantasy NT and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, in-game camera on Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge and the Ninja Gaiden Master Collection), but Ninja Gaiden 4 is the other major directing credit
>go to co-op for demon scrolls>half a dozen getting accessory boost +65% and tsukiyomi boost+10%My dick is ready
>>746096254How the fuck do you find online/coopI literally can't find online games at all in nioh 3, on pc at least
>>746096254Go to expeditions and search for the rooms
>>745983782Nioh 3 is generally the worst TN game I have played yet. Even Wo Long was better, at least that game brought something new and did new stuff, and was mildly challenging. N3 is somehow a downgrade over 2, with a bad open world, ultra repetitive enemy variety, miserable outfit variety, and piss easy difficulty.
>>746095290>>746096091Alright, that does sound interesting. If they somehow manage to make Wo Long feel less like a souls/parry slop then it's gonna be worth it
>>746098192I enjoyed wo long parries...
I still haven't played past the first region cause I stopped playing and decided to wait for the DLC to come out. Still mad at how fucking long it's taking. A whole year just for 2 short DLCs is complete bullshit.
>>746098412Smor indie company...
>>746098269This DLC is easily bigger than Heian region of the map and far more elaborate both in terms of design and side quests
>>746098513Retarded shill
>>746098695Cry me a river, faggot.
>>746098513Chink shills won't like you pointing this out
>>746098269It's fun because most of the time they are not your basic sekiro parries but they actually move you sideways and expose enemies back...if you think about it's just a Nioh Katana dedicated parries.
biggest problem with nioh 3 is how many shrines there are, there's 0 danger of dying and having to backtrack through dangerous areas
Finished the expansion last night. Overall it's definitely the best open field area of the game. The new weapons are interesting but I'll stick with my usuals. Not a bad dlc overall but I didn't like them forcing npc allies again, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to dismiss them.
>>746094664>the director of NG4 had nothing to do with the development of NG4mental illness.
>>746090750The Ninja Gaiden characters are always in the second and/or last DLC bro
>>745983782>no more Nioh after 3Well it was fun while it lasted bros
Will be funny if Wo Long 2 ends up being a better Ninja Gaiden game than NG4
>>746102492can you read the last sentence? nioh3 gave us izuna drop and apparently a ninpo too without a ng character, was nioh 2 the same? or did the hayabusa fight drop you these?
>>746103119>nioh3 gave us izuna drop and apparently a ninpo too without a ng characterI did read it, I just don't see why that's worth crying about
>>746103184because it means there's a high chance of a hayabusa fight not happening if they're giving us his arts without him
>>746102805>we'll never get a video game as good as 1 and 2 againWhy even live?
>>745983782>fix the performance>add the missing weapons to samurai>stop reusing the same 3 enemies and bossesThere, I fixed your game. Why is this so hard for these chinks?
>>746103898hah i wish they were chinks or they'd fix the game japs can't code for shit
>>746103898>stop reusing the same 3 enemies and bossesYou know, it's kind of weird that they recycle most of the yokai but generally don't touch the unique human bosses like Yukimura or Date.>inb4 those people are uniqueMeh, just asspull a reason. Undead, clones, ghostly remnants, whatever.
>>746104401If they were chinks Nioh would be gacha or a UE5 parry slop with 1 weapon.
>>746104796well all weapons play the same in nioh 3 thanks to the cum gauge and katana engine is worse than ue5
>>746104967>well all weapons play the same in nioh 3 thanks to the cum gaugeShoo, shitposter. Go play your gacha slop if combat mechanics don't matter to you in action games
>>746104967we all know that you don’t really believe in what youre saying bro
>>746105075combat mechanics are fine like flux they're not fine when they're homogenizing all weapons making them be just mash arts
>self publish 3>quality plummetsI guess big bad snoy was keeping them in check better than bungie.
Nioh 3 would have been fine if not for every boss being literally who humans and literally whos but Yokai with the exception of Takeda Shingen. If we're not fighting Amaterasu or whatever in DLC2 it's a complete dud of a game. Everyone knows Date Masamune, Yukimura Sanada, fucking Nobunaga, that's why the first two games worked with their human bosses. Nioh 2 also kept throwing banger Yokai bosses at you near constantly. Nioh 3 however, has fucking nothing like either of the first two games. Nobody except historians care about Jingo Bingo who was the third shogun of a bunch of villages and barbarians or shit Yokai like Otoroshi. The forgettable selection of bosses are a greater sin than the Samurai/Ninja split.
>>746106186It's stupid how much they fumbled the Shinsengumi gang, they should've been THE villains with spectacle fights and teamups but nope you just randomly kill them one by one. Fucking joke of a game you can tell TN was forced to make this by execs when you compare Rise of the Ronin Bakumatsu vs this
Let me know when they had a cool weapon and an ibuki douji skin/outfit. The new weapon is retarded and the fashion in this game is dogshit
>>746105938Nioh was always published by KT
>>746106186every nioh had me google the characters except for 3
>>746108461I enjoyed Gintama too but the Bakamatsu era is about a third of the game and has a tenth of the characters. Everyone that would've made an interesting character is dead except Okita Souji.
>>746106856The new weapon is amazing. Guard points are super cool.
>>746092556Everything blends together when you have parrysloppa
>>746108752yeah if I didn't know about them I would've probably only googled okita since he was the most hyped up
Enter. I love Nioh 3 graphics and artstyle, they really needed to add that random shit on the left and right
>>746093018It'll be worse because Wo Long ran worse than Nioh 2, and open world Wo Long is gonna run worse than open world Nioh 2
>>746109849Nah, Wo Long 2 is being made by the A-Team and has the new improved Katana Engine tech behind it.
>>746108970Looks lame as hell
I played Ni-Oh 3 and beat the first boss. I hated it. Does the game massively improve after that point or is it just worse Ni-Oh 1 and 2 forever?
>>746110190not really you just get the usual weapon upgrades that make the game more complex but the enemies are still jailer onis and soldiers, it's not like it's going to suddenly change to level based design
>>746110052>new improved Katana Enginekek
>>746111061it's been folded again
>>745983782Downloading Wo Schlong right now after finishing the DLC, what am I in for?
>>746111605You're in for an alright experience with somewhat challenging 2 last DLCs and a crazy whip
>>746110090What could look cooler than a sword or spear and shield? That's what the hero uses.
>>746103009Platinum humiliation ritual 2 years in the making.
>>746111605you are in for a better game
>>746112102uhmm...maybe a fucking nunchaku, its about time...or I dont know a kanabo a proper club (dont care for hammers and axe existing) or a naginata (dont care for spear and switchglaive existing) or fucking sais maybe? or nagamaki? or a fucking war fan? or a dedicated bow weapon? literally anything but some weird fucking Okinawan turtle shell shield that no one ever heard of or associates with samurais and ninjas
>>746111061>>746111223Make fun all you want, but the last Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja financial report stated that Koei Tecmo had made major investment into R&D for the Katana Engine.Wo Long 2 will have the first set of improvements, every game after it will feature more improvements to the Katana Engine. The Katana Engine will become one of the best gaming engines in the entire industry, superior graphical quality and superior optimization for 120FPS action gaming.
>>745996681I'M HERE TO FUCK YOUR MOTHER TO DEATH YOU BASTARD PILOT.
>>746114782as a Wo Long fanboy and glazer I don't even know if this is true but will blindly believe it and start preaching it in every single thread from now on
>>746114782I'll be more than happy if they can give me 60.
>>746114782Dynasty Warriors Origins is on Katana and I recall that game running pretty well. At least better than Nioh 3, RotR and Wo Long
>>746114782I thought that was for Dynasty Warriors> The Katana Engine will become one of the best gaming engines in the entire industry, superior graphical quality and superior optimization for 120FPS action gaming.Kek
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