>finally try Bloodborne on shadps4>hate the gun parry>hate most bosses>hate most trick weapons>hate the Chalice Dungeon>hate the NPC fights>hate the blood gem system>hate how similar most areas lookAnyone else?
>>745989542The base game is kind of bad. The early game is a piece of cake, and most of the enemies are garbage. I’m in the camp that thinks the second half is better. But when you really look at the entire lineup of bosses in the base game, it’s kind of bad. The DLC has like three bosses that are better than the ones in the base game. The only bad boss is Living Failures. Even the level design, with its funkier geometry and “dream logic,” and the design of the DLC weapons are better than anything in the base game. I bought a PS4 to play this game and ended up becoming a Nioh fan.
>>745989542Weird.
>play game>dont like gameok? thats fine anonnot every game is made for youat least isn't a sequel that ruins the franchise like it happened with souls
>pclard filtered by a 10+ year old game when everyone sane played it at launch and moved onmany such cases
Don’t know what to tell you. You could always Google “how to make a noose” instead of playing Bloodborne.
>>745990424>at least isn't a sequel that ruins the franchise like it happened with soulsbut ds3 is good though
I like Bloodborne
can I play this with 6GB VRAM?
>>745989542You shouldn't have played it on shadps4. The emulation isn't fully ready yet.
>>745989542Hating the trick weapons is unforgivable. You are faggot.
>>745989542>PCScrub got filtered by kinomany such cases
>>745989542why would you hate the gun parry? it completely solves having to figure out the janky animation hitboxes and you can focus entirely on timing. it's my favorite thing about the game.
>>745989542ur gay
>>745989542>I don't like thingokIf I were a cretin I would say that I'm not allowed to tell you this op, but I'm not one, so I'm not going to post about how I'm not bumping your thread.
>>745989542>Be me>Never played Fromslop>Get a PS4 for Star Wars Battlefront 2 but Bloodborne was like $20 so try out "the greatest game of all time">Absolutely janky, enemies can flip attacks through walls>Enemies have auto aim melee attacks>Terrible performance>Finish the game with the default weapon, never touch it again>Get Dark Souls on Switch cus people say this is where it really started>Its just Bloodborne but an earlier version>Exactly the same gameplay, but slightly better because it isn't running on the fumes of pretentiousness like BloodBOREFromslop fans are genuinely mentally ill. And then you fags get mad when somebody says Nioh is better (and Nioh plays better because it's just Ninja Gaiden with leveling up). Just tried the Duskbloods test and it's still the same fucking shit. Still R1 to attack, still the same roll, still the same fucking heal items. I've heard of people say Sekiro and Elden Ring are much much different but at this point I do not believe that shit at all.
>>745989542>tries to be a faster-paced souls game and completely fails>looks ugly as shit>has uninspired and forgettable levels>has the most insufferable gank in the series>stuck on a shitty console thats hard to emulate>terrible radiant dungeon system>does the grass from demons souls but worse>somehow has worse npc fights than dark souls 2>has terrible bossesYeah, you're right, anon. This game is fucking terrible and the only reason people like it is because they never actually liked what made the Souls games good and simply haven't played a real fast-paced action game.
>>745998915Wow a screenshot that looks completely ugly and shows off the atrocious artstyle, you really owned OP!
>>745999180>Enemies have auto aim melee attacksYou imply that having lock-on in a melee game makes it shit. You are retarded, it makes them look cool. Attacks make you (and enemies) step forward towards their lock on target. It's not "auto aim" faggot
>>745999463you are a gay retard
>>745999660Yet another screenshot that looks ugly as shit.
>>745999535Its auto aim lock on, retard. Several times the enemies have done a downward attack that you cannot dodge because the weapon follows you horizontally and you take damage. In the words of actual game designer Shigeru Miyamoto: "This shit is janky and gay"
bb is goated but feel free to flaunt your plebeian tastes
>>746000250there is a maximum rate at which you or the enemy can turn towards the lock on target for every attack, retard. Some attacks just have more than others because they game is supposed to be fun and varied. Sounds like your core problem is a skill issue since you're complaining about muh tracking. Use your iframes, positioning and timing u faget
>>745989542I remember when this game came out the biggest shitpost was that there were only 10 weapons and all the clothing options were too similar.10 years later and we now have Duskbloods.
>>745989542Faggot
>>745989542its all the same slop for normies
I don't like the aesthetics of Bloodborne. It's too gross. Sekiro is way better. Trick weapons and gun parry are fun though. Thanks for asking.
BB is the first of the modern souls and it shows. It's crazy how much better ds3 feels to play and it only came out a year after.
>>745998354Trick weapons are dogshit
>>745989542
>>7459965851060 here, yes, you can
>>745989542You should've played it 10 years ago and enjoyed all of soulsborne games back then. What you shouldn't have done is played and replayed the same game for over a decade. You should've moved on when it had nothing else to offer.
>>745998902>why would you hate the gun parry?Because it's fucking awful, the locked on projectile can miss or even overshoot small targets and you can take damage even while successfully parrying
>>745990424BB very much destroyed Souls, what are you talking about you retard.
>>745989542No, it's still tied for my top Fromsoft game. I'm overdue for another playthrough actually, used to do one every year.
>>745989542>hate the gun parry>hate the Chalice Dungeon>hate the NPC fights>hate the blood gem systemFair>hate most trick weaponshuh?
>>746009183Oh you're complaining that it's not even stronger. You should be complaining that it's far too powerful in the situations where it can be used, to the point of feeling like the easiest option is to gamble on a parry even when you're not confident in the timing
I can tell this is a shitpost because even those who dislike Bloodborne still say that Trick Weapons were good
>>746009674Was a webm using unsheathe supposed to be a defense of trick weapons?>>746009737It can be inconsistent dogshit while also turning the game into retarded parryslop
>>746009763Trick weapons are trash with 0 usefulness bar those that behave like Dark Souls 3 weapon skills (like >>746009674)The extra movesets are completely pointless and inefficient. The lack of loot also means you can't try most weapon types until way after endgame unlike Souls games
>>746009763NO ONE SAYS KOSM, MICOLASH!!
>>746009929>Trick weapons are trash with 0 usefulness Did you even play the game, that is literally false. Unlike other Souls games every weapon is actually viable
>>746010014Lol half trick weapons are literally worse versions of others
>>746010047There are only four copypasted movesets, the Saw Cleaver/Saw Spear and the untricked forms of Ludwig's Holy Blade and Kirkhammer, everything else is distinct
>>746009838>I'm too dogshit at the game to be able to parry properly>b-but it's still trivial p-parryslopgo back to DMC, Pedro>>746009929>Trick weapons are trash with 0 usefulness>The extra movesets are completely pointless and inefficientYou're clearly a retarded R1 mashing gorilla nigger in every one of these games. Your ignorance of the game mechanics doesn't mean they're non-existent.
>>745993492DS3 is not good, but the DLC is very good, I will give you that.
>>746010251I completed the game without learning how to parry (genuine skill issue, my brain is smooth and eyeless)
>>746010351Then it's clearly not parryslop
>>746010130Having a "unique" moveset is not a guarantee you won't have worse version of other weapons with the same hit effect on enemies, and Bloodborne hit effects are piss poor.You only care about the style of "different moveset" not substantial differencesSaw Cleaver untricked/Saif tricked moveset has better dps, range and crowd control than whirgling saw, holy blade and half other weapons in game, and without subtantial hyperarmor differences against most enemies, there's no reason to take anything else
>>746010251>You're clearly a retarded R1 mashing gorilla nigger in every one of these games.And it works in all of them.Hell, I ran out of space for bullets in BB and realized that you can't even actually sell that stuff straight from your storage.
>>746010262>DS3 is not goodIt's great, and this is objectiveElden Ring and even The Duskbloods are completely based on that and largely ignored Bloodborne gameplay features/mechanics for a reasonDark Souls 3 also represents the biggest step forward in enemy AI and behaviour Fromsoftware has ever done. Bloodborne enemies are so amateurish by comparison
>>746009838>>746009929>UnsheatheNo, Chikage is a lot more interesting than unsheathe, because unsheathe is just a move you throw out whenever. Chikage's version is only available immediately following a transform into 2H, which means it has a windup time before it can be used, but that windup time is unique in the sense that it's an animation which allows full player movement and isn't committal. This means you can "prime" Chikage while moving back out of the way of an attack, or on prediction of an opening which you can then confirm after seeing the opening pop up. The closest souls equivalent to this is Aquamarine dagger and Aquamarine dagger is fucking based
>>745989542>thinkingcap.jpg
>>745989542This is probably the game that I've played through the largest amount of times. I love it. Having said that:>hate the gun parry>hate the Chalice DungeonI think that 99% of everyone who likes this game feels the same for these two items.
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>>746010408>Better dpsHe says while tickling the feet of an enemy which is best fought by timing the massive charge attacks of other weapons to hit the head during brief openings
>>746010513I think gun parries are pretty cool, but I could never get into them personally (again, >>746010351 , pure skill issue)Definitely agree about the chalice dungeons sucking major balls though. Only a handful of enemies and bosses are cool, the rest is just artificial timewaste.
>>746010513The gun parry is unbelievably kino and I cannot understand how anyone could think otherwise.
>>746010498>Unsheathe but you move around for half of itWoahh>Aquamarine dagger is fucking basedIt's also "stylish" dogshit with dagger damage on an highly committal moveset with no real usefulness and unbecessary, so truly a trick weapon in spirit
>>746010408>Saw Cleaver untricked/Saif tricked moveset has better dps, range and crowd control than whirgling saw, holy blade and half other weapons in game,Again, this is completely false. LHB has amazing stagger and crowd control moves and the Buriel Blade is amazing for catching foes off guard and one of the few weapons that deals bonus damage when performing quick-step, sprinting, and backstep attacks. So combined with Counter-hits it is an 80% extra damage on one hit.If you want to stick with one weapon that is on you but all the weapons are good and viable.
I like the telescopic axe, I like making it long and then making it short again. It activates the neurons. I don't care about utility or optimization.
>>746010692This but threaded cane.
>>746010691>LHB has amazing stagger and crowd control movesNo it doesn'tTransformed it has terrible swing speed for no real knockdown (literally same as untrasformed hunter axe which swings much faster)Untransformed it's a farily mediocre ss moveset with poke and limited swings so no cc>and the Buriel Blade is amazing for catching foes off guard and one of the few weapons that deals bonus damage when performing quick-step, sprinting, and backstep attacks.Shame it has dogshit base damage in the first place and it can't even buffed
>>746010498You don't "prime" anything in that webm
I love everything about BB
>>745989542>can't have Bloodborne threads in 2k26 without hate farm postsnigger shit ass world
>>745990280This, but honestly I disagree about the second half being better. I'd agree it has better peaks, but the average experience is honestly worse. It's simple baffling that some of the best bosses in the base game are chalice exclusives, while rancid dogshit like the shadows of yarhnam, the one reborn, and whatever the fuckin big ayy was called. The DLC stepped it up a lot, but base Bloodborne is kinda ass on the whole.
>>746010943Really bugs me how every thread on /v/ is just rage bait. You spend long enough on here and you start to wonder if anyone even plays games. Anyone know what other site I can migrate to?
>>746010839>Transformed it has terrible swing speed for no real knockdownits L2 4 hit combo is great for staggers and its normals can stagger most enemies just fine. The range and damage are the real stars of the weapon>Shame it has dogshit base damage in the first placeMost weapons deal roughly the same damage, its part of what makes BB's weapons more balanced than other Souls games
>>746010498>No, Chikage is a lot more interesting than unsheathe, because unsheathe is just a move you throw out whenever. Chikage's version is only available immediately following a transform into 2H, which means it has a windup time before it can be used,The irony is that this just means the Chigake is completely awful at an organic moveset flow and especially PVP (which in general sucks in BB)
>>746010664You don't get it. You're whiff punishing a really slow and really bad rivers whiff, which you could use basically anything against. With AQMD or Chikage the bulk of the animation time is contained within a 'primer' animation which allows movement and can be dodged out of. That means you can prime in advance while stepping out of range and only release it when you confirm the whiff. There are things you can "reaction" whiff punish with these weapons, via early prediction of the primer, which you would never be able to reaction punish with unsheathe because you have to commit to the whole animation early
>>746009357DS2 really did with its shallow cashgrab nature and then DS3 buried the corpse with its shameful attempt at retroactively creating a trilogy that was never meant to be, DS4 gave us Zanzibart which struck Souls from history books forever.
>>745989542Me. Played it 2 months ago. Combat is okay, but I don't get all of the hype. The whole "constant agression" is bs because of stamina management. Color palette is shit and enviroments look like they created routes and then some spastic just randomly peppered models on top of each other in the surroundings. Maybe the game was amazing for its time, but in 2026 its just okay. Better than most FS clones, but it doesn't match up to the best.
>>746010691>all the weapons are good and Disagree. There's a solid third of the weapons that you should simply never use with the intent of doing well with them, and another third that are just underwhelming, or noticibly shittier versions of something another weapon pulls off way better. >viable.Given that barehanded is technically viable, this means nothing. And even then, the Kos Parasite is here to throttle your dumb ass by being nonviable in every single potential way a weapon could be considered nonviable. Ass damage, ass speed, bad stagger, mediocre range, very end of the game, eats some of your other slots to even work, requires autistic blood gem farming to scrape up to damage levels random clusterfuck builds eclipsed 40 hours ago, AND fucks your dodge roll just as a parting fuck you.
>>746011138t.the best
>>746011135DS3 is literally just BB.
>>746011292DS3 is nothing. It's just a game.
>>746011281>There's a solid third of the weapons that you should simply never use with the intent of doing well with themYeah, I can't agree with this. Maybe the Stake Drive and Kos Parasite are a bit too ass but just about everything else has something going for it
>>746011053>its L2 4 hit combo is great for staggersFalse>and its normals can stagger most enemies just fine.In the same exact way faster moveset can, which again is because the balance of hit reaction in BB is dogshit>Most weapons deal roughly the same damageFalse again>BB's weapons more balanced than other Souls gamesAhahahaahhaNo. Not at all
>>746011292>DS3 is literally just BB.But with good bosses, pvp, level variety, gameplay and art direction
>>746011562None of these things apply to either.
>>745989542>hate most trick weaponsI can see why you might not be into the rest, but Bloodborne probably has the most polished weapons of any Souls game, so I have no idea what the problem would be there. You can get just about any style of melee weapon you want outside of shields.
>>746009183If you take damage while parrying, you can just go for the visceral and instantly rally back 100% of the health you lost.
>>746011512>FalseStop shitposting already>In the same exact way faster moveset can,And many of those movesets have worse range and CC>False againYou could just check the stats yourselfhttps://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/p/weapons.html>No. Not at allOh yes because the countless copypasted trash weapons in Dark Souls were so much better, right?
>>745989542The blood gem system is retarded, you're just supposed to farm them from custom dungeons people made. You might as well cheat them in.
>>746010351This actually happened to me on my first playthrough too, plus not knowing how the rally system worked (I didn't notice the tutorial messages in the Hunter's Dream). I got gud on replays, but I just brute-forced it the first time through.
>>746011069>PVP (which in general sucks in BB)This is true but that doesn't mean Chikage unsheathe is ER unsheathe
>>746011284>run past all the POI and enemies>"this game is empty"Still better than BB. More aggresive too.
>>745989542ur a faggot
>>746010351Fishing for parries on Hunter enemies is objectively the easiest way to win those fights, it doesn't matter if your brain is smooth or not because you're just guessing anyway, press the button when they walk forward. The trick is simply that the reward is so high and the risks so low that it doesn't matter if you fail 2/3 times
>shitting on trick weaponsbest bait I have seen in years
>>746011592>Threaded cane being an ass version of saw cleaver or a mediocre whip with serrated that still does awful dps to beasts compared to saw cleaver is ok because MUH UNIQUE MOVESET>>746011758It is one special attack. The fact that you press L2 to prime it is irrelevantIt's funny how the only truly useful tricked movesets are buff moves and one off attacks that are no different from weapon skills>>746011281This
>>746011927Crazy right? Trick Weapons have actual proper moveset and aren't all reduced to samey one or two animation cycle looping like the previous games.
>>746011751>>746011891yeah I got absolutely blasted by Lady Maria for hours (only enemy I struggled for that long on, the Orphan taking maybe 2 hours total in comparison to her 4+). Would have been very easily with parries, according to people online.
>>745999180>>745999180>>746000250Nioh 2 is peak but you're retarded. Almost every vertical attack in Souls can be evaded by strafing or sprinting, even in Elden Ring where enemies get pretty relentless with the delayed attacks and tracking. It seems less likely that the games are all the same and more likely that you didn't notice most details of the combat systems. And why are you acting like enemy attacks in Nioh don't have tracking?Anyway, regardless of that, Sekiro is the one that actually is different. Virtually no dodge iframes, deflect system, no stamina, can cancel some attack animations, unique counters to attacks, and only one fixed main weapon. It got a reputation for being hard at launch because people familiar with the other games had to relearn all the habits they'd formed. Elden Ring is the same base system with a few new mechanics mixed in like guard counters, jumping, and stealth.
>>746011968Saif having advancing attacks on one transform and retreating attacks when transforming back into longer range is fucking cool and you are soulless if that doesn't get your noggin joggin. Having instant access to everything you want is not as interesting as wangling a stance system that requires you to think about which mode you're in
Bloodborne's atmosphere, aesthetics and themes = :)Bloodborne as an actual fucking game = :(And that's when looking at the relatively GOOD parts. Whoever designed that nightmare area, the chalice dungeons, the mikolash "fight", and the swamp should probably never work on video games ever again. Absolute trash.
>>746011968>muh dpsIts like you are some gay ass meta gamer, incapable of trying out different things. The Threaded Cane has excellent skill scaling, has better range for counter hits and crowd control and has righteous damage (despite there not being very many enemies weak to that)
>>745989542I don't hate it, but I never loved it.For starters my main build in ds is a classic sword+shield guy, and the "lmao endanger in passivity" meme always rubbed me off the wrong way. If all the builds in this game are just a different flavor of a dexfag, why the fuck having stats in the first place?Guess what, they agree with this opinion because sekiro is an action game, as bb should have been.Everything in this game is just 'okay' tier, but since it has the best setting and artstyle ever (and some cool exploration setpieces) it's hailed as the best From has ever done
>>746012091>Muh dogshit transformation attackExcept those moves don't flow well, they lack range in both directions to be meaningfully useful over dashes with iframes that have an instant running attackYeah I'd rather just swap any weapons and have two useful skills
>>746012549>dashes with iframes that have an instant running attackThe magnetism on BB dodge attacks is retarded and undermines spacing, but dodging into dodge R1 is still slower than Saif's built in gap closers. Saif is good for a reason
>>746009929>>746010408>>746010839>I have no idea what reach and stagger areThe Whirligig Saw can literally stunlock werewolves to death. You're also handicapping yourself if you never transform the Saw Cleaver because again, it can lock down enemy movements and get in extra hits by chaining transform attacks.>>746011138Fairer critique, but a detail a lot of people miss is that guns don't use stamina, so you can pop a bullet into an enemy's face to prevent them from retaliating or even parry their counterattack so you get a window to regen stamina and start another combo without them getting a turn. This works really well against medium-sized enemies, including some chalice bosses.
I feel like a contrarian boomer, but I like that in Bloodborne everyone wears cloth or leather, and swift movements make sense, but in other Souls games everyone wears huge bulky armour and movement being swift feels like fast-for-the-sake-of-being-fast zoomerslop.
>>746012013As a brainlet I actually beat Lady Maria in not too many attempts without parries on my first DLC run, but I was using Hunter's Bone and the Whirligig Saw's highly underrated one-handed form to match her speed.
>>746012549Also while you're on the subject of complaining about ER Katanas, I would like to complain that Kat R1s having the same speed as CS R1s with more range and more damage making them objectively better than everything bar possibly Shamshir just sucks and I hate the way ER balances its small weapons
>>746011750Farming them from the normal fixed dungeons, random root chalices, or the Winter Lanterns in Mensis will keep you powerful enough to handle the first couple NG cycles. I can say this with confidence because I played on PS4 with no PS+.
Overrated snoyslop
Are the memory leaks/random crashes fixed yet?
>>746012690That's not because there aren't nice cloth or leather pieces in other souls games, it's just because Fromsoft refuses to balance them sensibly as options so instead all of the cloth/leather sets just become something you wear at level 10 before you have any END
>>746011968Threaded Can absolutely mulches Darkbeast Paarl, among other beasts, once you upgrade it and get some Skill levels. Its damage is only bad early-game and its moveset gets a bad showing in the starting areas because the whip bounces off walls a lot in cramped spaces (which is an aspect I'll agree is retarded, but later areas give it enough space to work).
It was only good when it was exclusive. Congrats pctards, you finally got your hands on some used goods. We got her when she was a virgin loli. You get a used up whore. It really is that simple. It's all about exclusivity. You missed that opportunity. Should've bought a ps4. Should have paid a PS+ subscription to play online.You will NEVER have a FEEL of community when Vaati releases a lore video and you can just put a sign at the place that say >you're in the know, right? and get thousands of updoots.
>>746012931Yeah, I naturally don't mind light armour being fast in the other games
>>746012935Central Yharnam isn't that cramped and the early area with the bonfire that has a lot of enemies is a great showcase of what the Threaded Cane can do
>>746012690I brute-forced a knight cosplay in Bloodborne once anyway just to see if I could, and it worked pretty well.>Iron Yahar'gul Helm>Executioner Garb>Old Hunter Gloves>Decorative Old Hunter Trousers>Holy Moonlight Sword untransformed>Loch ShieldWish I had a picture but my PS4's dead.
>>746012997Mostly it is, but more than enough times I've backed away up the stairs to bait the crowd in and had my whip ping off of railings instead of striking the approaching enemies.
>>746013145I can visualise 80% of those items within my mind, that's pretty cool anon
>>746011968>talking shit about the threaded caneI want trannies to leave.
Looks like we won this thread trickweapon enjoyers
>>746012690Same. Maybe because I always wear cloth or leather for my dex characters in other games.I have never played a magic user or bulky fighter even once in my life.
Kirkhammer my beloved
>>745989542shit tastebloodborne/ds1 > elden ring/sekiro > ds2/demon souls> dogshit > ds3
>>746016976that is indeed shit taste, have a (You), don't spend it all in one place
>>746015558I don't remember this area despite finishing the game thrice
>>746016976This except swap DS2 and DS3
>>746011562>and art directionholy retard lmfao bloodborne blows ds3's gray desolate shit smudge areas out of the fucking water and there's no contest. you can really tell which one was made out of passion and the other out of contractual obligations.
Is the emulator stable yet or does it still need a bunch of hacks and workarounds to make the game maybe not crash?
>>746019014that's where the carriage for cainhurst shows up
Does you anons feel that Bloodborne should have gotten another DLC? I like Old Hunters a lot but a DLC about Cainhurst/Vile Bloods would have been good too
I recently got a PS4 to play Japanese games and decided to finally try it and it was kinda boring. Like a worse DS1. Never used the guns, they didn't seem helpful.
i've played dark souls, bloodborne, sekiro and elden ring and bloodborne is the best of those four
>>746021367No since another expansion wouldn't add much, especially since the Old Hunters was originally two parts they decided to merge into one.Cainhurst is BB's version of Dark Soul's painted world, an optional off the way area that is disconnected from the main events and tells its own side story, a dlc would ruin that effect.
>>745989542It's the Demon's Souls scenario all over again>game is exclusive for years>sonyfags keep overhiping it, making it out to be some insane gem>eventually game is emulatable>people start playing it on the superior platform PC>people realize game is shit and Sonyfags were boasting about a crap game
>>745989542all the above plus>hate that the frame rate often tanks down to single digitsBB is the perfect example of meme shit that retarded gamers can't help but eat up
>>746016976I'm 100% with you there brother. AC6 is between ds1 and ring
>sour grapes faggots still mad they had to wait ten years to play ludokino and a unstable buggy version at that20 frames per second versus 0 frames per year
>>746021042so true xister
>>745989542who asked
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