Do you think we got robbed of this or are you proud of what we actually got?
>>745990367It would've been action sloppa no matter what
>>745990367Midgar definitely looked better
>>745990367Considering what it actually ended up looking like... no.
and this is all we ever saw before the great reset
I still wonder how much of the systems Square was directly involved with from conception or if CyberConnect 2 was contracted for those aspects as well. Because the one thing that has me even playing these games still is the gameplay format, and if that was just Square copying CC2's homework then lmao. Wild there's next to nothing talking about this, too, like it's not even common knowledge this project was originally outsourced. But I guess there's decent likelihood that design docs etc. were provided by Square and CC2 just did grunt work.
>>745990367it looked pretty bad. They really saved the combat with the version we got. Literally the best combat ever seen in an Rpg.
I've played Dissidia.I don't need some "ff7 remake," thanks, bye.
>>745991490As far as I know the battle director joined after they rebooted it so a lot of the gameplay got reworked, like if you look at the screenshots posted you can infer that there is no>stagger system>unique abilities>abilities menu (you press triangle to activate the designated ability for each ATB level)>tactical mode (the command menu is always up)and to me this shit makes the battle system, without them this game would've been mash square to press triangle ad nauseam
>>745992226Good observations. I just saw the ATB meter (albeit only one) and kinda ran home with it. I'm pleased with what we got gameplay-wise, created an itch to scratch that I didn't know I had and has me looking for more. Are the Trails remakes similar? They look like it at a glance.
>>745992837trails remakes are more like metaphor (action combat that gives you bonuses in turn based) but you aren't forced to enter TB after landing decent hits (forced encounters will start in turn based though) and the turn based combat is still 3D since its an adaptation of a grid based system, but you can't freely swap between the two
>>745992837I've heard Tales of Arise is similar but I've never played it because I don't like the series so take that how you will
The only real loss is that we never got Cloud's face faithful to the OG. You may argue he's always been a twink but if you read the NPC dialogue in OG carefully, they describe Cloud as a masculine face young man. He wasn't a twink until AC came along.
Only thing that feels like a robbery is how the whole project doesn't really feel like it was planned as a trilogy. Sure, each game is "full length" but they feel disjointed, mechanically and narratively.That and Square isn't good at game design, and the world/level design is an all time low. Rebirth feels like XV in between its key locations, which are just ripped straight from the OG so it's like, all you had to do is make that overworld feel like a unique, interesting place to travel, and instead it just feels like Metroid Prime 4. Like why the fuck am I even in this open-ish world? Just railroad me to the next forty minute cutscenes at this point.Again though, the gameplay is just whatever. For being Action-oriented, it's fun enough. The characters are unique and skills are fun to use (watch), even if it kind of gets old after awhile, same as ATB. This brings me to the primary issue with the gameplay, regardless of being Turn-Based or Action: the enemies are fucking boring to fight. They have been since 1987, and they will be in 2087, if Square-Enix hasn't gone bankrupt after their inevitable merger with Disney by then. To quote one of the greatest game developers of all time;>The enemy has to be fun to shoot at, as well as be shot atand Final Fantasy (and a lot of games really) absolutely fails in this regard. I don't give a fuck how many seizure-inducing visual effects you throw at the screen when my retarded anime protagonist does a tenfold backflip into a mid-air dash or whatever, if the enemy is effectively just a static, moronic punching bag, then I'm gonna be bored as fuck.And since there's no other gameplay, let alone any actual RPing, then guess what? Fuck your game. Final Fantasy VII is a shitty video game with an amazing story connected by a lousy story that loses its plot midway through. Project Remake is even worse in this regard, and is practically a scam with its episodic release, garbage filler/padding content.Fuck Squaresoft.
>>745993673Certainly a take and a half to prefer the sickly hunchback version and call it "masculine"
Man I forgot I made these
>>745993673I don't know, he always looked kind of like a faggot to me, especially with the ear piercing. Key word being looked. I think the twink energy is more related to how he acts. He's cool early on because he's young, but brooding in a confident sort of manner. He becomes gayer as he becomes more vulnerable as the story unfolds, so for me it makes sense that in AC he's a humongous homo, even if it does feel like his arc is recycled a bit.Cloud, like virtually every shōnen manga protagonist, becomes more unlikable the more you get to know him, and the more the story becomes a circlejerk surrounding him.In case it isn't obvious, I think Cloud is the least interesting aspect of the FFVII multiverse, and a detriment to the story, along with his leather club counterpart.
>>745994326Nah fuck off you're the gayest nigger I've ever seen
Final version looks way better. The 2015 video was full of stock UE4 effects, which makes sense since it was so early, but it was painful to look at with how exaggerated and super bright the particle effects were. The final game ie beautiful
>>745994417Final Fantasy XVII starring Literally Me when?
>>745994326AC/Nu-Cloud looks nothing like the original Cloud tho
>>745990367I rewatched the trailer and it is crazy how unpolished it looked. Release game looks far, far better.Als like >>745992226 said, the gameplay looked like just button mashing with some "menuing" to pretend it is like the OG, instead of actually designing a proper battle system.
>>745994501Just looks like an anime if he real version to me
The most memorable lines about Cloud's appearance in the OG to me are Barret talking about him being a skinny-ass, which is a little weird in Remake when they yolked him up, and still kept the lines. But I guess anybody is skinny next to fucking Barret.
>>745994614All that brooding and Cloud just needed a game of G-bike to put a smile on his face.
>>745994885I didn't like the original remake version but the rebirth one is pretty fun I must admit
>>745992226>there is no stagger systemdamn maybe we'd have a good game
>>745994998I liked the contrivance to add an additional motorcycle stage to Remake, and G-bike in Rebirth kicks fucking ass. I like most of the minigames in Rebirth desu. The piano playing and the Gold Saucer space shooter are both genuinely interesting takes on their respective established genres.
>>745995256Oh, and am I tripping, or are the soundfonts used in that space shooter a deliberate homage to the PC-E/Turbografx (fitting since it's "the shmup console")? Threw me a fucking loop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU9fFcURNCI
>>745994638What's cool is that he does gain more mass from Remake to Rebirth, and looks even more bulky in Revelation.I'm replaying 7R right now on PC, dunno if I'll do a full 100% achievement completion again, but really it's just getting a save file done with at least all the sidequests done and weapons obtained.Part 2 had the Seadside Inn that looked at your Remake save file for all the weapons you got, and apparently Revelation is gonna have a weapon skin feature, so my assumption is Part 1/2 will unlock those skins.
>>745990367Yeah. Downgraded POS with bad controls/combat.
>>745997142Devs really saw the Dresscode mod and said yoink and I'm all for it, it gives the players what they want. I just hope it's easy to mod in more outfits through it and it doesn't somehow end up making it harder
>>745990367Kingdom Hearts?
>>745990367I really enjoyed remake, especially the endingwas actually pretty hype for rebirth: we had literally altered the timeline and defeated the time jannies so it looked like the game could be completely different but no, they gave you basically the same story but condensed>original: a man with a gun for an arm has been shooting up the gold saucer and everyone suspects Barrett. Even Cait Sith and the rest of the party suspect Barrett who storms off while the others are thrown in Corel Prison>rebirth: a man with a gun for an arm has been shooting up the gold saucer and everyone suspects Barrett. Cloud and the others do not for a second suspect it was him and we are shown a cutscene of the man shooting up the place just so you don't actually suspect Barrett did it. The others are thrown in Corel Prisonalmost like they were afraid players would get bored solving a mystery and... I dunno, look at their phones? in which case why even bother making this game in the first place? why not just make a 1 hour netflix moviethe ending also really pisses me off. Aerith needed to live, I get that, but the way they frame it as "she's dead, or is she? na she's dead... or is she? no seriously guys she's dead, or is she?" is just lameand of course the fact that the game is truly open world now but not really since there's pings on the map and anything interesting is immediately broadcasted to you by Chadley
>>745999601She's dead Jim
>>745999601>was actually pretty hype for rebirth: we had literally altered the timeline and defeated the time jannies so it looked like the game could be completely different>but no, they gave you basically the same story but condensedIt was funny seeing Twitter lose their minds over Max (omg streamer talk) say this in the context of how story was 95% the same beats, but someone clipped him talking about it 2 years ago out of context in order to simp for Sebby (omg another streamer)
>page 7
>>746001684UE4 was a mistake it makes all hair look like shit
They censored VII so much that Jenova isn’t even in the headquartersImagine how much story they fucked up for thatDisgusting. Game is pretty but who cares? I’m glad most people also hate it
>>746001846bro what
>>745991761>gacha-synergy combat is the best everGrim.
>>745990367>proudNigger, words have meanings.You cannot be proud that an entertainment product you consumed was taken in a certain direction by the creative team.
>>745994326Cloud looked considerably bulkier and more masculine in the OG 3D cut scenes than the post Advent Children models
Turn based > action slopEven if you cut out all of the boring slice of life mundane fetch quest filler shit the remake would still be soulless action slop.
>>745993673>The only real loss is that we never got Cloud's face FAITHFUL to the OGkek
>>746002775I wish it was a pure action game, instead it's this pseudo ATB system where you're only allowed to deal damage at certain intervals
>>745993673in the original he successfully entered a whorehouse by crossdressing
>>746003890The old man who made the dress in OG even said it would be difficult to turn a muscular man like him into a beauty.
Was giving Cloud such massive tits really necessary?
I don't think either looked very good.
So how about that FFVII raid that's coming to FFXIV's latest expansion this January?
>>745990367No materia birth = limited customization = limited replayability. We got robbed and I'm sick and tired of pretending otherwise.>b-but anon! OP builds, Balance and le skill expression!No one gives a shit. Cloud Melee Blade > aga spells and that's without the braindead Streamline Progression nonsense.
