controller is simply more FUN than a mouse for shooters, fun is something autists forget aboutController>similar hand posture as holding a gun>triggers give the sensation of a gun trigger>the trigger has resistance to it like a real gun trigger>rumble in the controller gives the sensation of recoil>can move it around in the air and not restricted by a desk>can use gyro aim and gives the sensation of pointing a gun at your enemy>gyro aim is more precise than normal controller that a youtuber used gyro aim on TF2 and was dominating the serverMouse>doesn't feel like holding a gun handle, feels like im washing a table>has no physical feedback like rumble, very mechanical >clicking a mouse doesn't feel like pulling a trigger, feels like im using a finger to crush a bug>there is no resistance so its very binary, 0 or 1 press or no press>can't move it around in the air, it must rest on a desk at all times>in no way does it give the sensation of a gun, it just feels like doing work at the officeMost people that like mouse have autism cause how else can you have fun with boring office work equipment
kys ai jeet nigger
>>745998486aim assist is for fags
AIslop addicted pajeets need the rope.
>>745998486Gaming is more fun when i rape op ass
>another apu thread
I like being able to keep my crosshair on my target so I use kbm. Controller users might not understand this concept because they're too busy mashing buttons to be able to pay attention to what's happening in the game.
>>745998486i know this is bait, but i still just want to say, if you actually think like this you have brain damage and should probably shut the fuck up permanently, or rid the world of your sad existence
>>745998486This slop comic is mad funny but KB+M is the undisputed king for shooter games.
>>745998554>>745998557>>745998587>>745998604>>745998632This is the level of discourse of 2026, must write quick reactionary comment with less than 10 words
Consoles, pajeet and AI, name a better duo
>>745998486I can't aim for shit with controller and I got the reaction time of a dorito with it, I need the mouse
>>745998827But they are right
>>745998486There's some kind of truth to this because using a steering wheel for driving games is inherently more fun than using a controller. But using a controller over a mouse isn't close to equivalent.
>>745998827I mean I could have expanded and say the retarded camera constantly auto-centering is also because controllers are shit but I didn't think I needed to elaborate further
>>745998557Aim assists isn't some auto aim and it most cases it hinders the player
>>745998826>but KB+M is the undisputed king for shooter games.If you have autism you would think that, autists hyper optimize the fun out a game. Like Guitar Hero is fun cause of the way you play it with the guitar controller but the game itself is easier and more efficient with a keyboard. The autist doesn't care about the guitar controller, they think about the numbers. They see the score system and say if its higher number then you win so they use a keyboard for more efficiency to get those higher numbersAutists cant comprehend this
>>745998860Train on gyro aim, or are you at that age where you stick with what you know and dont got time to learn something different
>>745998486nah you controller fags are the sole reason why every game is so castrated these days
>>745998486I just use either depending on the game, in fact for rail shooters I use both at onceget good
>>745999259>in fact for rail shooters I use both at onceImagine using a mouse on a rail shooter, absolutely disrespectful and youre bragging about it
>>745999424?
>>745999184What was that webm supposed to show us
>>745998486You have never held a firearm
>>745999424Imagine using anything but a light gun. Pure disrespect
>>745998486>losing is funGo back to Dwarf Fort.
>>746000229Never said it was exactly the same autismo, it gave the sensation like how guitar hero not being like an actual guitar but gives the feeling of one, were you never a kid who used a stick and pretended it was a sword
>his mind doesn't fully immerse himself in the actions of the player character regardless of what his hands are doingLiteral NPC behavior. You should go back to waggling on the Wii.
>>745999176gyro aim is fun as hell tho
>>745998805>I know this is bait>replies anywayJust kidding replying to you pointing out you're a fuckwit is actually also very fucking stupid. The only answer is not to play.
>>746000460So you want to feel like a brainless toddler.
>>746000385Exactly. Imagine House of the Dead without a light gun in your hand
>>745998486Shit mane PC look fun as hell thanks for the rec dog
>>746000558What are you on about
>>746000460And I'm saying it doesn't give anything close to the sensation. You'll get more of the sensation using a power drill so you might as well go get yourself a DeWalt
>>746000573Shit you're right.Guess I better stick with PC since it's easier to get a lightgun working on that.
>>746000626Most adults don't play with swords for long periods of time, like a child would. Men learn actual fencing or do something that requires skill like drawing, writing or playing skill based games. And in the later case you always prefer precision over feedback.
>>746000679You just got autism so hard for you to understand a normal people. I don't know if your kind have imagination, yeah a stick isn't like an actual sword but you can pretend and imagine it were one
>>746000460The stick felt like a sword because you were actually swinging it, not resting it on your lap and twiddling a thumbstick to look around
>>746000832You don't even need the stick either, you can create an entire fantasy world inside your head. The stick is actually a crutch.
>>745998486>how else can you have fun with boring office work equipmentImagination. The ability to rotate an apple in your head for no reason. Things you could never possibly understand.
>>746000832Yeah, I can pretend a mouse is a gun too. It even requires me to actually move my arm around to aim
>>746000828>Most adults don't play with swords for long periods of time, like a child wouldYet you have the time to play on PC? The same games but with a keyboard, are you arguing against play games on a video game board
>>746000842>The stick felt like a sword because you were actually swinging itAnd the controller trigger felt like a gun trigger motion, the hand motion is similar. Get it now?
>>746001032I hope to God you're ESL. At least you'd have an excuse for typing like that
>>746001032Read the next sentence?
>>746000969>haha im boring and sedentary but I'm going to imagine if I weren't lol thats like saying a couch potato watching tv all day has good imagination
While I agree for different reasons, my vertical mouse feels like a gun
>>746001130The motion is completely different
>>746001276>your way of imagining isn't immersive enoughNeither is yours, thumbstick boy
>>745998486Shiet
>>746001276Television is a passive medium yet you still need to be immersed in the story. Do you think the giant cyclops in The Odyssey is actually real?
>>746001202Moving a mouse isnt a skill worth investing in, games are just a leisure hobby for fun. What did you get from this skill? Are you going pro and making millions? Invest in a real skill and just leave games to be fun and a leisure hobby to pass the time like reading a book or watching a show
>>746001296>completely differentBoth are squeezing down the same finger, how is that completely different
>>746001554You'd know if you ever did it
>>746001473>Moving a mouse isnt a skill worth investing inIts the same basic skills as using a controller, aka hand eye coordination and muscle memory. Video games are entertaining because they involve complex systems, difficult challenges and unique stories. But that's all done through the controller device, which requires precision and responsiveness.
It's always most fun to use the best tool for the task. Everything else is for people that are using hammers as a comb.
>>746001430>Do you think the giant cyclops in The Odyssey is actually real?You must have with your great imagination, you just used your mind to teleport and immerse you in that world and it felt real to you. I want your imagination abilities
>>746001473>leisure hobby to pass the time like reading a bookThat's some peak NPC posting.
>>746001647IT'S SUPPOSED TO FEEL REAL. THAT'S WHAT IMMERSION IS.
Imagine using computers for work lmao soulless
>>746001792You couldn't have games if someone didn't work on them on a computer tho.
>>746001635>hand eye coordination and muscle memoryThe only muscle youre moving is your wrist and a few fingers. There are better skills you can invest in that will improve you way more. The sedentary nature of gaming does more harm to your health then whatever benefit it gives you in hand eye coordination. Remember this hobby is for fun but all sedentary hobbies like gaming, watching TV, reading books shouldn't be taking up most of your day. Learn a real skill and just enjoy sedentary hobbies and don't think of them as skills
>>745998486This is probably the most retarded post I have ever read on this websiteKill yourself subhuman aim assist tranny
>>746001683So what has your gaming skill gotta you so far, all that investment must have gotten you something right
>>746002090That's besides the point since the argument was originally about controller vs mouse and keyboard. I for one like video games and think contribute to my mental health and creative process.
By that logic this cucks the shit out of your controllers
>>746002090Enjoyment of life, as compared to maximizing my marketable skills so I can sell myself better
>>746001948>There are better skills you can invest in that will improve you way moreSuch as?>The sedentary nature of gaming does more harm to your healthProofs of claim?>all sedentary hobbies like gaming, watching TV, reading books shouldn't be taking up most of your dayThere is nothing wrong with reading a book for 12 hours straight.
>>746002191Correct. It doesn't matter if you like it or not, this is the peak of the human condition, chud.
>>746002191Correct.VR is the PEAK of gaming, only poors disagree
>>746002090Making shitters like you cry
controller with gyro+flick stick is better than a mouse
>>746002215>as compared to maximizing my marketable skills so I can sell myself betterNo get skills that will help you live cause things are going to get bad in the future and you should have the skills to survive. You can survive in a game but you got those skills in real life? WW3 is comingAlso enjoyment of life isnt a skill lmao
>>746002383>driving with motion controlsFuck this image. Fuck it to death
>>746002464>flick stick
>>746002482A zombie apocalypse survival game should be the ideal game to play then.
>>746002223>Such as?woodworking >Proofs of claim?The people dying from bloodclots in their legs>There is nothing wrong with reading a book for 12 hours straight.Humans were not made to be this sedentary, being inactive that long constantly will give you health problems
>>746002482My job gives me more survival skills than your hobbies ever will. Do you have a job anon?
>>746001646But how do you define BEST? Killcount isn't the only goal one can have
>>746002652>woodworkingThat's mostly useless.
>>746001828Soon I'll be vibe coding my own games from my phone
>controller is shihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJIqEX93vL8your response?
>>746002931Your phone is technically a computer.
>>746003013TF2 doesn't require that much precise aiming outside of sniper.
>>746002904More useful than gaming skills
>>746003129Not really, gaming skills can translate to other mediums. Woodworking you are mostly just making crafts that no one cares about.
>>745998486Based and don't forget about adaptative triggers in ps5
>>745998486is this more self-insert faggot retardation?
>>746003205>gaming skills can translate to other mediumsSuch as? moving a mouse on a desk only translates to office jobs and thats just work
>>746003386The controller used doesn't even matter that much. Using a mouse is just more precise for certain games like FPS and RTS.
>>745998486okay, so you pull the trigger to fire the gun and yet every other action you take in the game is completely disconnected from the input on your gamepad?when you open a door, you aren't turning the gamepad like a handle, you are pressing a buttonwhen you jump, you aren't kicking your legs into the floor, you are pressing a button
braaaaaaap
The formula goesStick>>WASDBut the breadth of other many many other keys on a keyboard makes up the differenceMouse>GyroOnly very slightly, but the comfortability of a controller makes up the differenceThereforeGyro controler=M&KBLove me Splatoon. Love me CSGO. Simple as.
>>746002482Anon I'm an educated engineer, my suitability in construction and understanding of structure isn't exactly a "Hobby skill" though.
>>746003447>just more preciseAgain precision, efficiency and optimization are autism traits. Yeah its more precise to use a keyboard for Dance Dance Revolution than use a dancepad but is it for FUN
>>746003776A controller is not a dance pad. The most "Fun" thing it has is that the trigger is a little analogous to a trigger in games centered around firearms. In return, you trade every part of precision movement and aim.
>>745998486lolno/thread
>>746002482You didn't ask for a skill, you asked what my skill got me. Did you forget your own question or are you just terminally ESL?
>>746003984Yeah your gaming skills got you nothing I understand
>>746004304I told you what it got me, and you said it wasn't a skill. You didn't ask for a skill, you retard.
step aside nigger black
>>745998486op is a faggot
>>745998827ABLOO BLOO BLOO WHY DON'T THEY LIKE MY SLOP
some games are better with a controller like platformerssome games are better with a mouse & keyboard like FPSI don't know why we need endless discussions about objective facts
>>745998486You're right that it's more fun, but the resistance on an actual trigger is so much more than on a controller that it's not even a point worth bringing up.
>>746004413cool toy
>>746002875Efficiency and comfort according to the task.Anything killcount would need a mouse to aim because using a stick would often put you in a situation where the controller lacks behind your skills. A singleplayer tps doesn't need a mouse to aim, because it isn't designed to and never or rarely puts you in a situation where you need more than a controller can do. Fightan need a gamepad at least and a stick/board if they are more comfy for you. In short everytime you can truly blame your input method for performing worse you are using the incorrect peripheral.
>>746005709>Efficiencyautism
>Thanks to razer wrist-wrangler I don't have this problem!
>>746005801I'd call intentionally handicapping yourself for arbitrary reasons even more autistic.And no, feeling like you are losing because you use the less efficient input method when the game isn't designed around it isn't very fun.It's cope.
>>745998554Fpbp>>745998827Brevity is the soul of witYou wouldn't get it, parasite.
Controllers were literally made to play games. Mouse and keyboards are multi taskers primarily made to navigate menus and type stuff.
>>746005906>when the game isn't designed around it isn't very fun.But it is autismo, games are designed around office equipment
>>746002464settings? controller?i wanted to use steam controller with fortnite but stuff like steamless controller feels like shit to config
>>746006218>Office equipmentSee you are alrdy coping.
>>745998486Why is he playing in a loft with an unpainted roof and Christmas lights strung along the railing? Also>Ctrl+F "Labo">0 results
>>746002169>>746002209I like how nobody replies to these because they don't have an answer for this.
>>746002134Dystopian as fuck
>>745998486>*concrete_grind_sfx.wav as you spend 3 seconds turning around*>now THIS is immersion!
real gamers only use gamesir controllers
>>745998486slop
>>746009952No real advantage. They are quite usable for being half price but you will most likely buy several because of their quality. A stick that prevents drift doesn't do anything in a controller where the ports easily detach from the pcb. But good for "hand me the controller bro" tier.
>>745998486I am not reading all that shit you stupid faggot lamo
>>746002464this is the worst aim i've ever seen >>746006304learn how to abuse aim assist instead
>Games now overwhelmingly favor controller input and are designed around them>Steam implemented an entire catalog of controller supportObjective controllerfag victory
