Grandmother silk is one of the only few good fights in the gameAnd that's because it's not turn based garbage
maybe youd be able to land more hits with less retreating if you were using chad hunter instead of slop reaper
>>746007509Land hits when the last judge does that fire spin every 2 fucking seconds?
>>746007370OP your tiny dick is showing
>>746008426>I love uninteractive gameplay!>*projects insecurity
>>746007981Why would that stop you from attacking, just pelt her with tools while she's immobile
>>746008763she blocks thrown tools during the fire spin attack, dunno if aoe like pimpillos do though
>>746007370Most of the bossfights are great, the only one I don't like is the Unravelled because it goes on for what feels like hours and Groal because it feels like the game wants you to cheese it.
What part of Silksong is turn based?
It's only good if you're doing the cursed ending. Otherwise, it's way too easy for that stage of the game.
>>746010567Well it's pretty much meant to be the equivalent of the base Hollow Knight fight, an easy enough challenge to end the game on for casual but only a step towards the true ending.
>>746010041The clockwork princes?
>>746010041don't mind the adhd zoomerette
>>746010041>basedbased on what?
>>746007370>it's good because its... easy
I don't like attack where she rains shit from above and you barely have time to react
>>746007370Every fight you consider turn based is actually you having skill issue.
>>746014073>you having skill issueGood morning sir, do not redeem the bloody turn base
>>746007370I wish more bosses has no contact damage.There are some 10/10 bosses in Silksong ruined by having to remember their repositioning logic to avoid getting hit by them blinking to a new spot.
>>746014005>it's hard because it... takes longer
>>746013965On turns
>>746007370Facts. It's one of the few fights that feels like it's a hollow knight one.
>>746014243No, you're just too shit t at spacing to use the proper openings so any boss that is agile and doesn't go AFK for 5 seconds after every attack is "unfair bullshit"
so whens the dlc
>>746014410I haven't played the original but this shit feels like it's 2d dark souls 3
>>746007370its the most disappointing fight in the whole game
>>746007370Pretty much. So many fights in the game are attack 1-2 times then dodge 5 times.
>>746015372rebranded as hollow knight 3, drops in 2032.
>Silksong mindbreaks /v/ and showcases yet again that /v/ sucks at vidya
>>7460153722 more weeksTrust the plan
>>746014243Fights of attrition are hard by definition, yesThe longer it goes the less resources you have at your disposal, making the fight harder
>>746014101Any time you think you can’t push the aggression is just you being too shit at the game to push the aggression.
>>746015543>fights of attrition>infinite heals
>bosses that can be hit twice by the silk thread>150 damage taken out of their HP bar with just one buttonFeels good man
>>746017230They don't have an HP bar, retard
>>746007370Almost none of the fights in Silksong are "turn based" though. It's one of the things that places the game's bosses so much higher and above Hollow Knight's. The game really is a big improvement.
>>746007370>Reaperkek. Take the training wheels off, junior
>>746017506Reaper is the shittiest crest, if anything he's doing it hardmode
*forces you to fight extremely aggressively*
>>746017930>Reaper is the shittiest crestFor damage. The long range and bind buff means this is the second best crest for survival, only beaten by Architect ODing on blue meth
>>746017327>They don't have an HP bar, retardYe the bosses just die of cringe when they get bored of you, retard.
>>746015454>laughs in cross stitch
>>746018086I never said they don't have HP. Show me the boss HP bar in the webm you posted >>746017230Your next post will be "well obviously I just meant HP", which proves you're a retarded ESL whose opinion can be discarded
Ah it's fine, I replied to a jeetbot. Happens to the best of us. Carry on.
>>746018212>too scared to respondThanks for conceding. Nice projection by the way
>>746017960Is there any other way to play?
>>746007370There are plenty of good fight. GMS, All Lace fights, Widow, Last Judge, Phantom, Signis and Gron, Cogwork Dancers, First Sinner, Karmelita...
>>746012364If you aren't hitting them during their clearly marked dashes you are just losing DPS.
>>746018440>Last Judge>Cogwork Dancers>KarmelitaLiterally the most turn based fights in the game, add trobbio for good measure
i think this game has way better bosses than hk
>>746008570How do you interact with this boss? It just floats there while you dodge projectiles. That's exactly why it feels lame, doesn't feel like you're having an interaction.
>>746022158>gms in slmao
>>746007370Good fight??? GOOD FIGHT?She's been tuned for the people doing the SECRET cursed achievement. She's easier than so many Act1/2 bosses. She's one of the biggest disappointment in the game. Still less of a failure than lost shit as the final boss of act 3.
>>746022158>Crust King Khann>Easiest boss in the game>Just sidestep his 2 telegraphs earth moves>A Tier>Same tier as CarmelitaLFMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHoly shit you know the guy who made this tierlist should be banned for speaking.
>>746008763>just pelt her with toolswell well, look who DIDN'T ACTUALLY BEAT the game
>>746024378Why are you retards glazing karmelita, it was legit the shittiest most boring fight in the entire gameI felt like I was playing cuphead
>>746014243>don't attack or use tools when given opportunities to do so>only attack at the absolute safest time to attack>blame the game for scaring you out of attackinglol
>>746024512well you see most bosses in this game are kind of mediocre so
>>746015372When the entire dev team troons out
>>746024512Regardless of your views on Karmelita, Khan is Z tier by himself. He's even weaker than most non boss enemies. Dying to this boss should automatically uninstall the game from a pc.
>>746024378>>Crust King Khanni mean, he was fun, but looking back on this i probably put him in a bit too highb or c tier would work for himsame with first sinner, but her i placed a bit too low, i'd put her in b tier now, although i still don't like the particle rng hell that is her last phase>Holy shit you know the guy who made this tierlist should be banned for speaking.>opinions are le bad o algo btw i can't bench 100kg for reps because i am a limp wristed faggot>>746024512karmelita herself is a bit too easy, and her gauntlet is boringbut she is pretty amazing
>>746022158>Trobbio and Tormented Trobbio that low
>>746024756didn't like them that much, i don't like particle hell fights and i don't like waiting for the boss to show up while he's chucking shit from under the ground
>>746007370>boss gud cuz it easyGo back
>>746007370>Turn basedYou're retarded
Why do people hate bile water again? The boss was piss easy
>>746024675>opinions are le bad o algo btw i can't bench 100kg for reps because i am a limp wristed faggotYes, your opinion is pure garbage by putting a boss weaker than the average regular enemy as A tier in a game where boss fights are important.Yes, you are a big huge faggot. He is objectively the shittiest boss in game.And you wanna know how I know you're a faggot? You're mentioned Karmelita's gauntlet. You count Khan's gauntlet as part of his encounter (even though... you don't have to beat them back to back). YOU ARE WRONG. YOU ARE BAD. YOUR OPINION BELONGS IN A TRASH CAN.
>>746024827Oh but you like Crust King Kahn who does the same shit but is way more boring?
>>746025076>You count Khan's gauntlet as part of his encounter (even though... you don't have to beat them back to back)i don't precisely because you only have to beat khann's gauntlet oncei just thought the boss was cool, that's ityou should really kill yourself>>746025167not really, i did say that in retrospect i put him too highhe's pretty forgettable as an actual fight
>>746010041All of it if you're a zoomer whose experience with action games is literally just Elden Ring.
>>746025228Yeah you have no idea. You made the tierlist 1 year later after forgetting everything like the faggot you are and now >oh in retrospective...faggot
Crust King Kahn is my favorite boss.
>>746024512Skill issue
>>746022158i updated my tier list
Lmao op you suck ass at the game, she is probably the only boss of the game I did first try.
>>746025672we know you're a faggot, no need to spam the thread showing how bad you are at playing it
>Beast crest was so shit Team Cherry buffed it to pierce through guards and not trigger parries>EXCEPT Lace, Phantom and Second sentinel because fuck youThis crest is so ass, the lack of blues is so fucking infuriating
>>746007370>Every action game is turn-based because you have to wait for your turn to attackWhoa.
>>746027382Dude there's a difference between dodging enemy attacks while sneaking in yours and waiting around for the enemy to finish the same long scripted attack followed by a 2 second window where it's your turn
>>746007370Funny because that's like the most disappointing boss in the entire game
>>746027783>dodging enemy attacks while sneaking in yoursYou mean the thing you do in Silksong once you git gud? That's the whole point of mastering combat systems like this, they don't just give you cheeky damage opportunities for free
Boss rush mode when? I don't want to play through the entire game again to fight the bosses again.
>>746027941How long did it take them to add the Pantheons in 1? I don't remember but it seems like it took ages
>>746027783>Anon is treating Silksong boss fights like it's fucking ZeldaYou unironically need to get good.
>>746028021send me a video pussy
>>746007370it's because she doesn't have contact damage.she's also one of the easiest fights in the game because of the lack of bad design (such as contact damage).
The best fight in the game is First Sinner.Easily.
>>746027941>whenDude pantheon of pharloom mods have been out for months
>>746028086https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE-LD2EcASo
>>746015460you jest, but that may well happen
>>746028170haha this retard just doxxed himself
>>746017960Not really, it's just another dodge punish fight.
>>746028169>modsI don't download mods anymore ever since that Mecca Chameleon mod ended up being a trojan
>>746027783>waiting around for the enemy to finish the same long scripted attack followed by a 2 second window where it's your turnThis retard's talking about a game he's clearly never played lmao
>>746028107Of all the dumb complaints about this game, the contact damage thing has got to be the dumbest.They're enemies. Why shouldn't they deal contact damage?
What's the earliest you can get the witch crest?>beat Bellbeast to open the bellways>get the dash (no bossfight required)>open wormways>wallclimb from Sister splinter>sneedolin from Widow>Cross stitch from Phantom>beat the robot homos to open the path to the vaults>get the twisted bud from the drop into Bilewater>?????>CURSED!!!!In theory this is the bare minimum I should do to get Witch within 3-5 hours, without the cloak, clawline and killing exactly 6 bosses out of 47
>>746030795As soon as you have the Twisted Bud you're eligible for the Witch Crest I think. You just need to bring it to the worm witch in the forest
>>746029782NTA, but it's a shit and bad design to raise the difficulty artificially instead of making bosses have interesting and cool moves.Take the unraveled: he does nothing, he's one of the most boring boss. All he has for himself is his retarded contact damage.It's just not interesting.
>>746031082Nah, Unravelled was fun and removing contact damage in that fight would make it way too easy. Let me guess, you don't want Savage Beastfly to deal contact damage either?
>>746031082>shit and bad design to raise the difficulty artificiallyAnd there it is, that meaningless buzzword: artificial difficultyThere's nothing difficult about enemies that just let you just walk through them because you can just go brain off and smack them till they die. No concerns about spacing or dodging or anything, just tank n spank. It's why GMS is a joke
>>746030996I know that. I want to streamline the route as much as possible because TC are fags and put that crest (and Architect) in Act 2, ruining my crest only challenge runs. I want to get the crest as early as possible so I can experience as much of the game as possible with them. Obviously I could use mods for this but fuck that shit
>>746031856There are fights where the lack of contact damage makes sense because of how the boss is designed, like GMS and Fourth Chorus. Removing contact damage from the Unravelled fight would be stupid though.
I cannot beat the fucking bell eater. I have blown an entire stockpile of shards on it. Help me /v/.
>>746032247see >>746017230
>>746032247You must train for 10 years on old NES action platformers to stand a chance
>>746007370>someone complains about Silksong being too hard>they used the Reaper crestalways like clockworkWhy the hell would you use objectively the weakest crest in the game? Why the hell is every casual gravitating towards it?
Is it true that some anon here got mindbroken by Fourth Chorus when the game came out? Haha.
>>746032564free silk blobs mmm
>>746032812Every other crest attacks much faster and just naturally harvests more silk without having to wait for a bind and collect orbs. This mechanic on Reaper exists only to prevent it from falling behind too much.
>>746032564The buff feeds itself perfectly, you always have a bind ready with this shit. And for noobs, binding is the be-all-end-all, so they love it
>>746032564>Why the hell would you use objectively the weakest crest in the game?Because at around the release date, wikis were still under construction and crest descriptions were vague at best. Most people who read reaper's desc. thought that the slower and heavier attacks would also mean stronger, like in less attackspeed but more damage per hit, which was a wrong assumption. By the time people realized that reaper is legitimately the worst crest in the game, they have already built in the bad habits of the downwards pogo input lag instead of learning literally any other pogo, so they either had to learn a new moveset without the training wheels of bigger range during a harder boss fight, or just cope and stick with reaper till the end, or drop the game.>>746032812Every hit that goes towards the silk balls, doesn't go towards the boss, which makes the fight last even longer, considering reaper is like 50% slower compared to every other crest.
>>746032564Is it true that you didn't beat the game if you used the Wanderer Crest?
>>746032564Witch is the most fun one, or maybe im autistic
>>746025239elden shit is the most turn based action game in existence.
>>746007370skill issue
>>746017960*only the modded version, the vanilla one being a total pushover
>>746034017Say it with me: best action game ever made!
>>746007370Now beat the real Silk.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6yTtKbg-oo
>>746034223gayest action game ever made
>>746034017>literally proving OP's point
Worst part about all the Hollowknight games is how all the people just praising the ebin late hidden bosses but then the rest of the game is just 99% walking.
>>746034450Try boss rush games like Cuphead or Rubinite more recently if you genuinely believe that bosses are the only thing worth experiencing in an action game.
>>746034313He tried disproving it during phase 1 but then he realised he looked like a retard and was probably going to die so he pivoted to playing the game in the "intended" turn based way
>>746034685I have. That was my critique towards this game, and playing other games doesn't makes it only worse. In addition to that the bosses also can't be respawned unless you redo the whole game again.
>>746033869Nah, you're right. With the full vesti, witch has 4 blues, 2 reds and 1 yellow which is everything you could ever want. Youtubers popularized the bind mirrors nuke build, but you can do so many things with it
>>746007370You just like it cause it's one of the easiest fights in the game
>>746034313>>746034793>so btfo he has to make up excuses and imagine things to copeShitters are so cute
>>746034885IMO, Silksong shines more in its gauntlets (esp High Halls and Coral Tower) because multiple overlapping enemy patterns are largely unpredictable and you have to react on pure skill rather than just memorizing when the bad man swings (and this is also why action roguelikes are awesome), but different strokes I guess.
>>746035056you even tried to DPS asap it with the wanderer charm and spiked charmthat makes your fail even funnier
>>746020898TROBBIO
>>746035226>so btfo he has to pretend it's a failAbsolutely adorable lmao
>>746032564Reaper makes pogoing easy for general exploration, and many players ended up getting comfortable with its moveset and playstyle to the point where they find switching to other crests jarring. If the game gave bosses health bars then people would probably be more likely to experiment and realise that other crests give them better DPS, but as it is you get practically no feedback from the game about how well you're doing unless you reach the bosses' second/third phase.
>>746034017>Equip the double damage taken tool (that doesn't even give you +100% damage, what a ripoff)>Boss takes just as long beating up than without the tool because you play it extremely safe
>>746035112I like and understand that the game can't just be all highs but the game had just too much "exploration" for my taste + I really like games with set levelselects so not being able to respawn bosses or redo gauntlets just makes me annoyed when I do them. Because yeah, I beat them, but I really could done it so much better now that I know how to do it, but I can't.
>>746032564Architect is the easiest crest.
You know all this whining can be avoided if you just got good at the game.
you reckon we're ever getting DLC or is it another 7-years-turns-into-a-whole-new-game scenario?
>>746007370Huh? Its not a turned based game?
>>746007370Weird they designed the fight around being cursed
>>746035581Good like this guy >>746034017 ?
When did /v/ get so shit at video games?
>>746034017why are people reposting my webmsfor the record this was my 3rd attempt
>>746025239>>746033912get a shield and poise retards
>>746034912what are some other things you can do with witch?I always try to overdose on plasmium with it. Which just makes the typical heal nuke build even more OP
>>746036297>implyingAnon, /v/ was always shit at videogames. You should've seen these threads when silksong dropped, all those anons screaming about the diagonal pogo and getting filtered by Hunters march, it was a bloodbath
>>746036935So instead of pressing circle you hold R1 when it's not your turn?
>>746037008I build witch to parry spam, and it's actually better than Wanderer for it. Longclaw, volt filament, spool extender, sawtooth circlet for blues, flea brew and voltvessels for reds, Weighted belt for yellow. You can also use flealia with plasmium phial for cheaper parry spam, silkspeed anklets for extra speed or dice for memes, replace longclaw with reserve bind for security, and you dont even have to use the parry, just spam threadstorm or silkspears with wanderer-tier swing speed and range larger than fucking reaper. Witch's bind is both a blessing and a tradeoff. Treat it as such, and you can do amazing things with it
>>746037653>hold r1thats the attack button? so yes, you can in fact attack enemies during "their turn", which makes it so its not their turn. Your guard counters, jump attacks and charge attacks will stagger them before they can kill you. Pair with some source of combat healing like Prayerful Strike for best results.
>>746007370This stupid "waiting your turn to attack" meme doesn't apply to Silksong because the game lets you attack anytime. Bosses can be hit during attacks, every attack has a safe spot somewhere on the screen, and you have spells and tools that let you hit bosses during "no-go" attacks like the Last Judge's fire spin.Silksong is actually WAY more inspired than rollslop. The focus on agility and weaving through attacks rather than using iframe dodges is novel as hell, and I wish more games would take its cue.
>>746035608We're getting dlc literally within the next 2 months
>>746034017*sillk issue
>>746037906that sounds cool for a huge chunk of the game, however Shaman might be more preferable because it straight up makes your parry deal more damage. Assuming you meant the parry skill and not the clash
>>746027325You're ass, beast crest shits on anything once you learn it's pogo.
