Is there any game genre as pay to win as card games are?
>>746011339Gacha games. Which are basically digital card games now that I think about it, so scrap that.
>>746012524Gachas aren't a genre, it just describes shitty monetization
>>746013115Just like these booster pack(gacha)card games
>>746013115No, it has very much become its own genre. It's easier to define than RPG at this point.
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>>746013169it's easier to define a game having trees, doesn't make trees be a genre. TCG, Fifa, LoL are basically gachas then.
>>746013392>wow look at all these distinct genres statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
>>746011339Depends on the card game, pokemon is funnily enough extremely cheap to play because most the consumers for it are collectors that sell the good playable cards for cheap. Yugioh and magic basic staples can be expensive.
>>746011339Can someone explain what happened here?
>>746011339The hell happened? I thought Magic was for intellectuals unlike Yugioh. I understand how Yugioh works, but not this.
>>746014962MTG is basically modern yugioh at this point
>>746011339Got a picture of the cards he played?
>>746011339Card games aren't pay to win, they're pay to play. Everyone at the tournament has a deck that's in the same ballpark price wise. The irony is that the most expensive decks often get blown tf out by a Red Deck Wins or some other nobrain count-to-20 aggro. I say this as an aficionado of nobrain count-to-20 aggro decks.
>>746011339>forfeit on the first turnwhat
>>746014829They started playing a card game, then one of the players got a phone call from his pregnant wife. They agreed to call it as a draw, and play again later.
>>746014962Guy played 1 specific card that basically shuts down the other guy's strategy and he has no plan how to beat it.So instead of wating 10 turns until the Magus beats his life down he just quit
>>746014962>t. never been 2 turn Yata locked or jinzo trappedsometimes you gotta recognize and give up
>>746013115"People" who play gacha games do it because they are gacha regardless of its actual genre, therefore it's appropiate to say gacha is its own genre.
>>746014829>>746014962>"2 colour lands can only make red!">guy who plays only 2 colour lands and doesn't play red can't play his non-red cards1 colour lands are weaker, but unaffected. Guy got greedy with his "better" lands and got punished
Yea mtg is pure p2win but that is why you play with your friends and make your own rules.
>>746014829>>746014962>>746015178Hello, former BGx Goodstuff player here. We fear Magus of the Moon and Blood Moon like crazy because we greedily run like 3-4 colors and rarely pack any basic lands so getting Moon's Turn 1 is a death sentence cuz we can't play jack shit in out deck even if we're BGr. Might as well scoop and go to Game 2 (and most critically, sideboard).
>>746011339I think I've done this before
>>746015331>>746015424but it's turn 1 how does he have 3 mana?
>>746015701Ancient Tomb makes 2 mana in exchange for life, Simian Spirit Guide let's you "discard" him (technically exile from hand) for 1 Red. Yes the Tomb gets turned into a Mountain after but it did its job and the whole deck's Red anyway I blame the BUG player. Should've mulliganed into a Thoughtsieze or LITERALLY ANYTHING.
>>746015701Land that gives 2 at a cost + card you can throw away to make 1 red =3
>>746015838>>746015883Fuck me glad I don't play legacy
>>746011339>scoop on floodgateshould've drawn Fallen and Virtuous
>>746015929Listen Fast Mana is Magic the way Garfield intended. And it's funny!
Magic isn't pay to win, it's pay to play.