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Hail the Emperor
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Why is he drawn like he's in a barafag visual novel?
Fuck off slaanesh
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>>746013769
This is better, conveys more the this guy is not human, he's beyond human part
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what if god empress of grill
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>when you realize the emperor is from Anatolia
So did he found the Ottoman empire? Was he Attaturk?
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>>746013549
>not blond
pass
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>>746014476
The idea just doesn't fit together for me.
Primarchs as cute girls has a silly factor at least.
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>>746014476
Holy man face
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>>746014818
Blonde? Since when?
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>>746014846
Queen Marika from Elden Ring is basically female fantasy Emperor. There's also the Empress from Signalis but that's a tranny game unfortunately
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>>746014925
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HH fucked up E's character so much it can't be repaired
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tg is that bad you have to come on the twitter screencap board?
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>>746014703
he's greek
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would
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>>746015159
HH should just be ignored at this point
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>>746014703
Turks weren't in Anatolia until the 1300s AD, fool. Anatolia is and always was considered a part of Europe. That it was colonized by Central Asians relatively recently is irrelevant
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>>746015283
You WILL be fed primarch capeshit and you WILL like it
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>>746014703
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>>746014925
fair enough, she also fucked the setting uo
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>>746014925
and let me guess the fromslop franchise isn't a troon den?
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>>746015426
>god-monarch
>warrior-monarch
>has godlike power but is ultimately just a really, really strong magician
>golden Abrahamic imagery
>struggling against the sinister machinations of unseen cosmic Lovecraftian deities
>has personally carried out innumerable genocides in the name of upholding racial purity
>has a shit ton of demigod children who tore each other apart in an apocalyptic civil war, many of whom defected to those very same demonic forces lurking in the background
>is currently entombed as a lifeless husk ruling over a dead empire
They should marry
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>>746014703
Big E is the amalgamation of ancient fucking shamans committing suicide, he sure as shit isnt of any nationality
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>>746015487
I can't deny that Fromsoft's fanbase is full of troons, but that's just unfortunate happenstance. Signalis was specifically made FOR troons, BY troons. That's different
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>>746015652
well thats one theory of many, isnt it? And even then, was it shamans from all over the world? Did ancient mystics from the south americas, from east-asia and from deepest africa all travel to Anatolia for a common cause? Or was it more like a collection of Shamans and Mystics around the mediterrainian area?
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>>746015652
That's just his spirit. His spirit still inhabits the 100% normal naturally conceived child of a proto-Hittite couple. He wasn't a virgin birth. Of course, that's mostly irrelevant because he can shapeshift into whatever form he wants, but he was still born as a normal human with a base form, and that form was a Bronze Age Anatolian
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Reading some of the more recent books and I don't like how they're samifying everyone
>Custodes get angry, love fighting, love working in teams and cosntantly fanboy over themselves and space marines
So they're just space marines now
>Lion El Jones Son comes back, is cured of autism inexplicably, now cares about the little guy, is a shit fighter and gets bodied by his own son (it took mortarion getting all the strongest demons of of nurgle together, his son, a cauldron to make a disease just for bobby g and decades to take out bobby g; Lion gets bodied by a decide made for someone else he just walks into)
Cool, so he's just a generic nice guy now

>Fucking Cato Sicarious is a nice guy now, with no ego
Really?
It feels overly samey in general and poorly written.
Ie Bobby G's trilogy starts with him getting mad, 1 v 1'ing a brother, getting bodied, poisoned and needing to be rescued. He specifically notes he will not let anger guide him again. He proceeds to constantly let anger guide him, picks a fight with his brother, gets bodied, poisoned and needs to be rescued (twice, even, loliemperor had to save him too)
Outside of that one sister who hates everyone and everything everyone is the same character now. Theyr're all "good enough to beat up the enemies but struggle in a 1 v 1". They're all pragmatic but nice. They're all personable. They're the same guy.
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>>746016115
They're just trying to make 40k less grimdark and more mass marketable. Which sucks, but money trumps integrity always.
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>>746013549
Actually the Emperor.
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VIDEO GAMES
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>>746015363
https://youtu.be/om6QZVMX9-M
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>>746016496
/v/ 40k threads are better than /tg/ ones. Kind of how /v/ anime threads used to be. And now I made myself sad.
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>>746016496
Yes. Or would you rather have five more GTA 6 threads?
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>>746013549
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>>746016750
GTA is actually fucking board related, so yea I would.
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>>746016357
That makes no sense since this includes the story of the guy who gets folded by nurgle, which is constantly cited as MORE grimdark than normal and we've also had stories like the sister being intered into a torture device called out for being grimderp since she was from a covenant that specifically tries not to do that and it was done under very flimsy pretense.
They're making it more boring, not less edgy
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>>746015748
Shaman "theory" was outright stated to be false in canon.
We don't know how he looks really
>But da sister of silence saweded an old man!
And a blank assissin was casually erased from reality by a psyker that wasn't even looking at it, an omega one, which is STILL weaker than emp
Even recently, in book... 2 I think of godblight, LoliEmperor saves a sister of battle from getting reamed by a sister of silence by casually bitch slapping her across the room and breaking her back, while completely ignoring the null aura and the nulling manacles she was wearing.
He could very easily bypass any null except maybe Kroll and show them an old man
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>>746015335
Modern turks are just larping greeks, armenians and anatolians. Genetically they are only around 10-20% turkic. Step people and nomads didn't wipe out other people to colonize their lands, they'd displace the rulers and use the population as a source of gold and food.
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>>746017114
>utright stated
I don't give a fuck about nu-canon.
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>>746016905
Meh, it sounds lame to me.
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>>746017358
This. Nothing happened after 999 M41 as was always intended.
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>>746017582
And all the HH shit is not-canon either. Its all mythological.
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So like
Do people ironically like these characters
Do I need to be lower IQ to enjoy
>Genius big strong man smart (whiny manchild low IQ chooses to 1 v 1 a guy he can't beat in a 1 v 1 for no reason)
Or
Like even Girly man comes off as actually retarded and he's by far the least retarded
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>>746017936
you are already low IQ typing like that
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>>746017979
>No u
clever
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>>746018005
It wasn't a "no u", retard. A simple
>you type like a fucking moron
>so you are a fucking moron
You didn't even call me retarded in the first place, so how can it be a "no u"
The absolute state
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>>746017936
Like with most lowbrow media (tabletop games, video-games, comic books, most anime), I like the IDEA of the characters. The premise of their personality and their role in the story, their design. The actual minute details of the writing is irrelevant to me. That's for higher brow stuff like Moby Dick or Shakespeare. Undeniably, the Emperor is poorly written in most of his appearances, because GW hires hack writers. But I still like the idea of a morally ambiguous god-king in space. If I wanted that idea properly fleshed out, I'd just read Dune
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>>746018303
No u
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>Be 10'000 year old 8 foot tall super super soldier
>Finally get to wake up and fight with my bros
>Become best friends with DogFucker, son of Russ and WallFucker, Son of Dorn
>Have 100% success rate, 0 losses
>Get split up and sent to work with BookFucker and his cohorts, sons of Girlyman (PriestFucker), because we share the same blood
>NO option to say no
>NO option to delay
>NO reward
>Don't even get put in the main chapter, but some random side one no one has heard of, where they fuck books and now I'm expected to whip it out
Am i really supposed to believe Girlyman is "smart" and "personable" and "understands humans" after he did this? Its just asking for mass betrayal
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>>746014703
It's like saying in 10.000 BC only cowboys lived in America, fucking retard. 10.000 BC only aryians lived in what is now "turkey". The turks conquered turkey roughly at the same time as europeans colonized the US.
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>>746013549
If games workshop were smart they'd hire a gaggle of chinese yaoi fujoshi to do their art direction, instead of the beta soys and danger hairs from tumblr they currently got. Only the chinese mind is ruthless enough to give grimdark enough dignity to work, since they don't operate in modern slave morality.
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The old lore of the Emperor being born in ancient times makes no sense. If I were to retcon anything in 40k, I would make the Emperor be born during the Age of Strife, possibly as a result of the Warp storms that followed the Birth of Slaanesh. It makes no sense that the Emperor wouldn't have used his power to uplift and unite humanity back in the fucking Bronze Age or something.
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>>746018876
>The turks conquered turkey roughly at the same time as europeans colonized the US.
That was just Constantinople. A city-state with only symbolic value. The majority of Anatolia had already been annexed by the Sultanate of Rum and its succeeding Ottoman Empire throughout the 1000s and 1100s (in fact it was this aggressive expansion that prompted the Crusades in the first place). Not really relevant to what you were saying, but I must erm ackshually. Just saying the dissolution of the Byzantine Empire took centuries and the actual fall of Constantinople was pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things
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>>746015340
I actually do like the primarch capeshit, but that's because they work really well in tandem with the astartes capeshit.
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>>746018932
wat
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So why exactly 40k is so homosexual-coded?
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>>746021480
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>>746018943
Until the age of strife mankind was more or less handling it's shit so him assuming direct control was not necessary. He was content to guide from the shadows, because things were more or less proceeding towards towards where he felt they should go for the human race.
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>>746022530
>He was content to guide from the shadows,
Except he wasn't guiding shit. He was just not needed (not like he was needed after, but he went full retard in LARPing as Bronze Age warlord).
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>>746014703
You're the type of brown retard faggot who says "My Grandmomma told me that Cleopatra is black".
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>>746023192
kek
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Step aside
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>>746017936
>chooses to 1 v 1 a guy he can't beat in a 1 v 1 for no reason)
What's he going to do, just ignore Horus? Literally no one else could've fought him at that point
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>>746018932
Post too based for this board
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>>746014925
Elden Ring is also the tranny game
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What made 40k become mainstream recently?
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>send the other blatantly off-topic 40k thread to /tg/
>leave this one which is exactly as off-topic
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>>746027904
Jannies earning their pay.
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>>746017309
>Genetically they are only around 10-20% turkic
I used to date a turkish chick(from thrace) and she had blue eyes and light brown hair could have passed for ethnic german, her dad also had blue eyes but they were slant and you could absolutely see the central asian dna it was very weird to see
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>>746013549
Reminder that the emperor is a manlet that uses psychic powers to make himself look big.
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>>746013549
I hate faggots and women
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>>746027805
Games?
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>>746028873
chud incel
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Why didn't the Emperor just make peace with the Craftworld Eldar? They both wanted to destroy Chaos, the Craftworlders didn't fuck with Humanity during the Age of Strife, they could have collaborated on restoring the Webway, and they were entirely open to diplomacy before the Great Crusade.
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>>746025236
This isn't just emp, its every single major character except Perterabo, the only character in the franchise with a brain
Ferrus died 1 v 1'ing a brother he KNOWS is a better fighter for no reason
Girlyman died 1 v 1'ing the same fucking guy, had an epiphany about how stupid that was, then proceeded to run into entire armies without telling his guard, 1 v 1 Mortarion and lose again in the EXACT same way he did to the gay snake Fulgrizzle
Alpharious Omegon lost 1/2 of their body 1 v 1'ing dorn for no fucking reason despite KNOWING they're the weakest manletest primarch

Etc
These are supposed to be literal 9000 IQ demigods
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>>746028372
>emperor is a manlet
wat
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>>746030858
Dorn completely has Perturabo's number, though. You can tell he gets a kick out of irritating him, and it often works extremely well goading Peter into making mistakes.
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>>746032997
Peter turbo is still the only one with an IQ
Dorn ran into the meatgrinder out of anger, Peter made it knowing he would
When demon angron picked a fight with him, he did not go 1 v 1 the guy; he just had his boys shoot angron until he left
He's the only one high IQ enough to actually realistically post any threat without either punching down or fighting only retarded people
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>>746013549
He looks like he fucks xeno women
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>>746033139
He is canonically an Eldarboo who trained under an Autarch.
He wants to access the Webway to get easy access to Eldar hookers.
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>>746033491
>>746033139
He's not. He explicitly states in his trilogy the eldar MALE farseer I forget the name of is the "only member of that species he trusts"
He doesn't even mention the girl
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>>746033625
>Implying he wasn't kissing Eldrad behind the curtains
There's a reason he didn't make female Primarchs, anon, and it wasn't because of logsitics or limitations.
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>>746033625
Well, the only other named rldar male is Yriel, so how're probably referring to Eldrad.
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>tfw no Peter Turbo gf
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>>746033091
>high iq
>guy that told his legion to kill a tenth of it's members for no logical reason

Power turbo is just as much of a dumbass as the brothers he looks down on.
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>>746033847
Phone, what the fuck with that autocorrect. This is why I don't get to upgrade my pc? So you can auto correct to the wrong fucking words?
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>>746033943
The horrendously murderous and autistic habits of these women make the Horus Heresy make way too much sense.
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>>746014476
my empress
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>>746030858
>Perterabo
Well, that's actually his character, supremely competent and logical, but completely at the mercy of his emotions. His denial of his humanity causes him to self-sabotage and isolate himself. His absolute need for validation, which if you don't give it to him he'll do some self-destructive thing just to get you to look at him

he's a goth cutter, crying out for help. Honestly he and Konrad have a lot more in common than is let on.
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>>746014476
>>746033943
>>746034205
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>>746034253
if he'd just stop lying to himself... probably why Dorn gets so under his skin. Dorn's directness doesn't leave any ability for him to escape it.
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>>746034205
nice
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>>746030858
>These are supposed to be literal 9000 IQ demigods
written by 60IQ authors
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Well guys... It's the end of an era
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>>746014476
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>>746027805
I got into 40k in 2020 thanks to Astartes. I feel like that's what set off the chain reaction
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>>746014846
But who would be best girl?
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>>746033139
Honestly, why didn't Emps tried to create a Human-Aldari hybrid? wouldn't it make more sense to create a new breed of humans who are all psykers and have greater control over their psychic powers rather than 10ft tall super humans who hates you because your bitch wife scattered them with the help murderrape demon gods.
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>>746030858
Perty was a fucking moron too.
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>>746036468
>why didn't the Emperor give humans souls that are doomed to be murderraped by Slaanesh forever
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID
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>>746036468
>tried to create a Human-Aldari hybrid? wouldn't it make more sense to create a new breed of humans

real protag of the setting fabius is doing excactly that with his numen
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>>746036364
Tied between Sanguinius, Magna-Chan and Girlyman.
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>>746013549
Why did the emperor erase two of his son from history book
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>>746036661
But Magna did everything wrong
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>>746036587
pretty sure being half human would negate the elf rape afterlife curse.
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>>746036013
Stay on >>>/tg/
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>>746036739
And she's my belovedly red failgirl because of it. She gets all the headpats.
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>>746036734
It's a consensus among 40k lore autists that the lost primarchs were mind-controlled by the Slaught (evil xeno telepaths) and there was a mini-Horus Heresy during the war where they had to be killed. As for why it was memoryholed so hard, idk I guess it would've been really demoralizing for humanity during the Great Crusade, when the Imperial propaganda machine needed unity and morale the most. Of course the Heresy was even worse but there was no covering that up, and in fact served the Imperial propaganda machine as a great founding myth
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>>746036364
>giving lorgar a sisters haircut instead of bald
booo
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need me a vampire mommy
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>>746036612
>it's the year 40000
>you are a genetically enhanced demi god who has lived for ten thousand years
>you have a deep understanding of the research of the God Emperor that created you
>you have even access to the forbidden arts and knowledge of the Ruinous Powers
>still no cure for male pattern baldness
40k is truly the most grimdark setting
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>>746013549
Why is he blackwashed?
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>>746015159
They should pull a "somehow the Emperor recovered".
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>>746036364
Lorgar is made for kisses and more
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>>746037612
>throne failing
>all custodes gather around the webway portal under terra expecting the chaos swarm to flood in
>russ pops out
>he found his tree of life magguffin to heal the emperor
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>>746038046
>russ is immediately decapitated by the grey knights and the tree of life is thrown into an incinerator
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>>746013549
Looks like you posted the wrong Emperor, friend.
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>>746036364
>Big cuddly angelic gf with soft fluffy wings
Yes yes yes
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>>746038220
>grey knight about the initiate the terminus decree
>he gets stabbed in the back by another grey knight
>''i am.. Omegon''
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>>746014476
One of the current main storylines might actually end with the Emperor (or at a part of him) possessing or reincarnating in a woman.
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>>746015609
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>>746038686
a woman? whatever happened to the star child business
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>>746038902
I guess it was actually a star loli?
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>>746013549
Nah fuck this yaldabaoth hell lord
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>>746038220
kek
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>>746040554
>yaldabaoth hell lord
???
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>all the bald guys become evil
Is HH the ultimate hairpill?
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>>746027805
The Astartes mini-series and the fact that a fuck ton of streamers, big and small, did reaction videos for it
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>>746041826
The big E is just like yaldabaoth but in human form
Both arrogant asses that relish in human suffering
>You shall have no other gods before me or else I will kill/punish you.-Yaldabaoth
>You shall follow me and be atheist or else I will kill you. Also I know best trust me bro. - Big E
Then we have Horus lupercal and his lunar wolves loved son of the Emperor turned into a chaos demon
Yaldabaoth's creation Horus Archon of the moon who oversee the lower heavens and spheres of chaos.
Chaos gods work the same as Arhons living of human suffering. Then we have the chaos Big E dark king. Wich is just yaldabaoth in his true form.
Etomytolgy of Yaldabaoth is "Begetter of chaos/child of chaos"

I know it's shizo but I love gnostism and it's hard to not see the connections
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>>746037529
You seen Lion's mini? Not even the Emperor's godly genes can escape the Norwood Reaper.
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>>746042275
Konrad had some lushous locks
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>>746042508
Based esoteric schizo
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>>746038902
Yeah well, the star child might end up in a woman. Gotta wait for the last part of the Bequin-trilogy to see if we are going to get a femEmperor or if she is gonna be some sort of Mother Mary to baby EmperorJesus
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>>746037612
Newest lore is already setting that up. The great rift has supercharged all the psykers in the galaxy, Emperor included, who temporarily possessed Guilliman, torched a third of Nurgle's garden, and cockslapped Mortarion after telling him he could save him if he wanted to, but that Morty made his choice and has to live with it now.
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>>746042861
I still believe in the Fyodperor.
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>>746015387
Neoth was born 9000 years before the Turks arrived in Anatolia
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>>746027805
Space Marine 2 + fan projects like Astartes/Space King + Henry Cavill
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>>746013549
Hail the true Emperor!
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40k? More like 40gay lmao.
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>>746042735
Then we have psykers being sacrificed on the golden throne
Gnostism is three tiers
>Hylics material realm normies, bound to the suffering machine.
Think Kreig
>Psychics
They possess free will and can attain a partial salvation through faith and good works, but lack deep spiritual insight.
>Pneumatics
They are capable of achieving gnosis (direct, mystical knowledge of the divine) to escape the material world and return to the true divine realm
Psykers are not only sacrificed to satiate the Big E yaldabaoth. But to keep them from finding the truth. Pneumatics are just heretics that the inquisition burns. All to keep humanity blind.
Again just shizo theories
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>>746038551
>the Alpha Legion were loyalists this whole time
All according to keikaku.
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>>746013549
>head slowly turns to nearby custode
>scratches his nuts
>psychicly whispers "no one will believe you"
>goes back into hibernation
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Yayyy another shitty 40k thread where people talk about the same plagerized "lore" from a decade ago and don't play vidya.
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>>746043835
>bawwwwwww
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>>746043835
what makes you think that nu-lore deserves a discussion?
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>>746016115
welcome to imperial primarchwank, it will keep happening
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>>746014476
>Make 20 male clones of yourself
>Little tiny baby boys
>Time for /ss/, ara-ara~
>The Chaos gods kidnap them
Fuck!
>By the timeyou find them again, they're all 10 feet tall musclemen that will never call you 'Mommy'
FUCK CHAOS!
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>>746043437
-_-
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>good primarchs
Perturabo
Alpharius
Khan
Sanguinius
>awful retarded schizo primarchs
Everyone else
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>>746043483
Then we have the connection to Saturn. "Maahes the lion-headed, Seth. And Saturn, most of all. The father-god. The maker. In the acroamatic texts of alchemy, Saturn is glyphed as lead, the prima matera. it is heavy and it seals, and limits, and protects. It is cold authority. Saturn is a black, stone prison, caging all truth inside its chain of rings"
Guess who also is God over Saturn and creator. Yaldabaoth the lion headed snake. "He bound humanity with dim, heavy constraints... making them subject to the turn of the cosmic spheres, to time, and to fate. Thus, he locked the entire material creation under his rule." Though this is a modernization of Apocryphon of John quote.
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>>746042508
That isn't true at all though. The "God Emperor of Mankind" is more of an attempt to grapple with the idea of a central figure of worship that would emerge in this epoch and replace mythological/theological structures in regards to their universal values, in part hearkening to the concept of an Ubermensch in a manner of speaking. If you think in terms of what Warhammer 40k is, it's essentially a thought experiment conveyed through a sci-fi "epic" of how humanity would grapple with the next millennia as the training wheels were gradually released and they became an interstellar civilization. The conclusion is that any attempt to divide the power from the singular divine masculine in human flesh (through the Primach "sons) would result in negative-chaos emerging through demonic entities tempting them into ruin through any possible means of short-term exploitation as the allure to attempt to supplant the central masculine axis who provides the syntax for Divine Order is something irreconcilable from their egoic perspective and they'd seek to attack them any way they can for the purposes of supplantation.

It basically instills the fact that absolute monarchy is the final form of civilization across a continuum and that while the "God Emperor" that you're referring to in the Warhammer 40k universe is objectively unfit and is more so an attempt at grasping at the straws of crumbling civilization to avoid bending the knee to the "God of Order" (Source Incarnate) through using a hivemind of psykers to imitate their power to instill stability, it is the case if you view the "God Emperor" as an abstraction and a moniker that the "God of Order" can someday emerge (hence the hinting of the Emperor's Return in recent material, perhaps not referring to the same individual but the "God of Order" who is capable of holding positive-chaos in potentiation) and save the universe it is by no means a demiurgic entity, but the end of all demiurges.
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>>746047407
don't waste your breath on that retard
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>>746046981
what's with the Peter glazing? He was always considered a dumb crybaby babyrager
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>>746047407
I think both are true, one is more political the other is more inspirational interpretation of Gnostism. I mean warp demons work the same as archons. Both feed on emotions, the emperor is just as foolish as Yaldabaoth/samael. Both think they are the center of the universe. Both have a really malicious side
Well I'm not saying it's 100% gnostism because there is no "heaven" in 40k like gnostics believe in. Just that they have definitely taken inspiration from it and other faiths/religions.
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>>746014703
He was trojan retard
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>>746013549
oh look! biomass!
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>they finally got rid of all the firstborn
PRIMARIS WON
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>>746014703
>So did he found
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>>746049142
*necrons in your general direction*
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>>746049142
>>746049450
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>>746049338
Only room for one set of dwarves in the far future, and the Votann got that base covered.
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>>746014703
Turks were originally Asian-looking.
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>>746042908
>he could save him if he wanted to, but that Morty made his choice and has to live with it now.
That's fucking stupid. If you can save a Primarch, then you objectively should
>B-but it would be immoral
The Emperor personally spearheaded a crusade that led to the conquest of millions of planets and the genocide of quadrillions of people, maybe more. He canonically doesn't give a shit about morals, only the results. And from a canonical standpoint getting rid of a Daemon Prince AND getting a Primarch back would be a god tier result for the Imperium
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>>746027805
Star Wars and Star Trek committed suicide.
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>>746047591
There's this meme going around that he was mean but he got results - when in truth he wouldn't have gotten anywhere without Horus and the demons.
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>>746036364
>But who would be best girl?
The Lion, Angron, Peteruabo, and Curze would all objectively be the worst choices, because they all have severe anger issues, and I could easily see them killing you by mistake if they sperg out and hit you during one of their temper tantrums.
The objective best choices are Guilliman and Vulcan, because both are sane, have decent morals, and are kind. Sanguinis would be a great choice too, but (s)he would have major anger issues, which could lead to her abusing you, though I don't see her accidentally killing you like Angron or The Lion would.
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>>746036364
>Tfw no femVulkan gf
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>>746040554
>>746047407
Correction: the Antichrist.
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>>746043000
Honestly both options suck. Fyodperor is gonna result in "zomg the emperor is trans" posting and the Mary/Jesus route is just really lame.
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>>746033960
its called havin' a laff mate
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>>746043115
>Neoth
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>>746013609
It's what appeals to most HH secondaries.
Look at any of their threads. It's all about which guy with daddy issues is their favourite. You can practically smell the desperate cocksluts through their posts.
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What is this I've heard about Dorn being found?
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>>746052326
Imperial fist cope. An emperors champion got a vision about a large last battle where Dorn would be present. In reality he got this vision by fucking Fulgrim. It was all a trick, and now the imperial fists are in his devious trap. I am alright with this, because if Dorn comes back as a damn Black Templar wannabe I will paint over my imperial fist tattoo on my left asscheek.
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>>746052326
He's in Trazyn's pokeball
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>>746052702
Proof?
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>>746052898
My dad works at GW.
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>>746046981
>Alpharius
>Good
>Implying girllyman isnt THE most effective primarch
Retard
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>>746043578
Will never happen because it would be cool
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>>746051337
Lioness would be one of the better ones, but only if you’ve managed to earn her loyalty. Say what you will about the Lion, but he was loyal to the Emperor, and nothing could tempt him to break that. Lioness would be the same, and there’s nothing in the galaxy that would make her doubt you, or convince her to betray you. Sure, she might be incredibly protective of you, and be a bit awkward at times, but the love would still be genuine.
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>>746013549
>>746013602
Can I suck his penis?
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rowboat girly man is unironically a much better protagonist for the setting and the empire than the emperor.
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>>746053331
Every sister of battle.....
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>>746051337
If Sanguinia lashes out, it’d never be out of genuine malice, but because of her visions. She knows that she’s inevitably going to leave you behind, and the pain of that eats at her.
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>>746052976
Is he hot?
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>>746053465
>>746052986
he boring as fuck
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>>746053465
>Read about a super human demi god schizo the fuck out over how the empire they fought for has gone completely wrong in every worse way possible to the point he's visibly ageing due to stress.
>Read how even he is admitting how fucking insane and bullshit the enemies of today are compared to the stuff he fought 10 thousand years ago
>Read how demi god has to gaslight people into understanding the actual shit they ment in a non religious sense while realizing to keep everything afloat he has to keep up the sct of being a religious symbol
>"High Marshal, I was literally fucking there to watch your founder and I can confirm he did not "Charge in like a fucking badass motherfucker!". He legit was a retard who miraculously kept annihilating shit, pulling wins out of his ass while thinking my Dad was a god! He was fucking censured!"
Gotta say as much as people complain about Warhammer40k today I always get a hard laugh at his reactions and how he's written in.
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Big Blue Boy got absolutely fucking destroyed by the Necrons when he tried taking on the Silent King, which makes me wonder how the Great Crusade would have gone had they started awakening earlier.
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>>746054381
Necron should go all out with tyranids that takes them both out of the plot
Necron at 1% would've been greater than even peak man of iron humanity
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if the emprah was still around and the heresy didn't happen, how would the emperor handle the tyranids and necrons?
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How many primarchs would he beat?
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>>746054891
Why is he stroking his xenophase boner in the thumbnail?
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>>746054815
Probably would have continued to refine the space muhreens for the past 10 000 years, far surpassing Cawl.
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>>746053945
t. secondary
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>>746013549
FOR THE EMPEROR!
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>>746055585
but that's the girl from deltarune?
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>>746055640
Yeah.
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>>746054690
I dunno Anon if a brigade of guardsman can take out one necron the necrons are basically fucked numbers wise alone.
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>>746056097
The necrons have technology to control time and destroy solar systems. Tech wise, theyre leagues past the Empires old archeotech (at least for the most part).
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>>746056287
Yeah but they can't fuck therefore their stock of necrons is limited. And the numbers game is probably something silly like a billion to one.
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>>746054381
Depends if the chaos shenanigans still happened. If chaos focused on necrons instead of humans they might have industrialized enough and actually finished the webway project to buttfuck everyone else
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>>746056514
>>746056287
Actually this is just the old tried and true argument of one billion lions vs the sun.
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>>746036364
When it comes to women, twins win.
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>>746056514
Hey ruled the galaxy. They have countless tome worlds. We dont ACTUALLY know the total Necron numbers, but they ruled the GALAXY before they went to bed.
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>>746013549
Reminder: Lorgar won
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>>746054891
>Canonically beats a C'tan shard
Two Primarchs, but he'd die in the process.
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>>746013549
Hitler was more based
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>>746037529
Biles body deteriorates so fast he barely has time to worry about his hair.
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>>746056671
They were also the victims of a war they were losing for a while, against the people who made the Orks. And there's still lots of Orks so there probably weren't many necrons left before they took a nap.
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>>746013549
>emperor is a jeet

Horus was right, he was the real hero....
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>>746036364
Vulkana or Sanguina
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>>746057085
They never made the orks they made the precursor to the orks. They also made the aeldari, and look how good theyre doing?
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>>746036364
Angrina
First we get angry
Then we fight
Then we talk
Then we cry
Then we fight again
Then we get married
Then 100+ kids
Then we get OUR HAPPILY EVER AFTER
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>>746057392
>Then 100+ kids
>no, honey, not tonight, I have a headache
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>>746013549
Never bowing to a Turk. I do not care if he's a collective mass fusion of powerful psyker souls from across humanity, he decided to be born in roach land to roach parents.
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>>746056671
Nigger they went to sleep because they LOST and were hoping everyone else would die out while they took a nap
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>>746057759
>because they LOST
Show me a single surviving Old One - oh wait.
Any surviving C'than around? Huh.

They won both wars and went to sleep because they were done with the bullshit.
Canonically, they won that war in heaven.
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>>746036364
>S Tier (Waifu 4 Laifu)
Vulkhai
Sanguinna
Robin Girlliman

>A Tier (Very worth sticking your dick in crazy)
Alphari / Megg (TWINS, THEY WERE)
Magna the Red
Jinghattai Khatun
Lina Russ
WHora

>B Tier (Genuinely nice girls, if a bit intense)
Conni Corax
Lorga
Lisa El'Johanna
Ferris Femmus

>C Tier (Basic bitches)
Roanne Dorn
Fulgra

>D Tier (I can fix her! But also no I can't.)
Morticia
Pertahra

>F Tier (oh shit nigger what are you doing)
Konni Kurze
Aungrann

Even though they are objectively worse, I'd still pick either Magna or the Twins as my first choice. Giant red magic muscle mommy or two trickster twins would flip my switches.
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>>746057283
Impossible. Jeet males are 165cm on average.
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>>746058040
Magna feels like she'd be cool. She has a caring heart.
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>>746055994
>mfw not even tall enough to give big E a standing handjob
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Skimming the Konrad Curze wiki is hilarious, literal cartoon character wacky adventures running around playing hide and seek on space boats.
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>>746058160
>Konrad Curze wiki is hilarious
Thats a sentence I didnt think Id ever see.
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>>746014469
That's retarded and so are you. The Emperor is a damn near mythical figure to the Imperium. Someone that exists both as a historical figure and as a god that is worshipped across the whole of the empire. He makes up the founding myth of its people and wouldn't be depicted as some kind of horrific monster but as a larger than life figure to whom praise and prayer are given. Depicting like some ominous figure to be feared and possibly reviled is something you'd expect from a heretic or a very provocative artist, so definitely a heretic.
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>>746036612
I'll keep saying it but they should unironically make a faction with these guys. like canonically the fucker actually doesn't give a shit about chaos he just want more people to experiment and he has created millions of them at this point.
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>>746013769
Looks more like the Dark King or whatever from the end of the Heresy.
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>>746051105
It was the Emperor teaching Morty a lesson by letting Nurgle stuff him in the cuck shed. He's revealing the truth of the chaos gods to Morty so that the next time they meet, he'll ask to be saved, and he'll genuinely want to be. It's setup for that whole one traitor will come back and one loyalist will go traitor GWs been teasing for a while.
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>>746053101
I mean it's not impossible for SOME OF THEM to actually be loyal. these fuckers are so disorganized they probably often fight each others without even knowing
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>>746058121
If Horus didn't set Magnus up to fail, with a bit of help from Tzeentch, he might have genuinely been one of the best of the Loyalists.
Mortarion, too. They both were willing to die for their father, until their legion was going to be killed along with them, and weren't willing to do that to every one of their soldiers.
Or at least that's what the lore used to be. Who the hell even knows what's the real 'official' canon now, anymore?
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>>746013609
Sorry you can't appreciate peak male performance.
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>>746036364
>Russ doesn't even have wolf ears
Pfft.
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>>746058472
We only have two surviving loyalist? Are you expecting more to return, or the Lion and Girleeman?
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>>746058268
>The phrase "Mag Uruk Thraka" sounds nearly identical to "Margaret Thatcher" when spoken aloud
>Ghazghkull’s nickname, "The Iron Ork," is seen by some as a direct parallel to Thatcher’s moniker, "The Iron Lady."
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>>746058508
Until Magnus' soul is repaired, we cant be redeemed. So basically, ever.

Which is a shame, hes my favorite.
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>>746058575
I could see lion Morty floppy flop. Girllyman is never going to flip
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>>746058268
He's Batman. Of course he's funny.
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>>746058484
Super not impossible, even.
There are already canonical loyalists from the traitors and traitors from the loyalists.
Hell, this is /v/, so we should at least be aware that the Blood Ravens used to be Magnus' boys before he went off the deep end and left a few scattered remnants of them out in the galaxy that would eventually become the Blood Ravens.

If memory serves, there was also a purge of the Alpha legion, by the Alpha legion, against the Alpha Legion, to make sure the Alpha Legion was fighting on the side of the Alpha Legion when the Alpha Legion was fighting the Alpha Legion. It used to be 100% expected that some of them survived that clusterfuck and were still loyal.
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>>746058895
Closer to Bat that Laughs, unfourtunately.
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>>746058508
In fairness, The Emperor was probably just straight up correct that the Thousand Suns were fucked regardless. Having them executed before their souls were eaten/disintegrated may well have been for the best.
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>>746057591
He's not turk, he's neolthic anatolian, 40k lore describes him as "hittite or proto-hittite" but that's not the case either, he's from before even proto-hittite culture. They probably chose anatolia for him because it's where some of the oldest human settlements and monuments have been found, rather than because they have some kind of diversity fetish for modern turks.

The closest modern genetic match for the neolithic anatolians the emperor comes from would be sardinians.
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>>746058508
>>746058637
Magnus going Loyalist would be the best case scenario since he's probably the only one who could potentially tag out for the Golden Throne if Big E ever gets healed
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>>746058925
So why the hell werent the blood ravens effected by the flesh change or Ahrimans rubricon?
Havent played the game, apologies if they DO suffer from the flesh change.
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>>746027904
A DUD?!
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>>746053969
Him going through a totally doomer as arc only to man the fuck up after finally meeting with the emperor and realizing it was all ultimately down to him and him alone regardless of his wants, dreams, or feelings of self loathing was genuinely well written.

I still think it was a bad idea to expand upon / directly explain the primarchs and the hearsay
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>>746014703
Isn't he supposed to be Gilgamesh but like for real
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>>746059072
GW'd have to explain where Janus's part of his soul went then. That could be cool.
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>>746058925
>Blood Ravens used to be Magnus' boys
Not even remotely confirmed anon
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>>746058980
Nah, he's nowhere near that level on inconsistent wankery. Reminder that The Batman Who Laughs usurps the power of the creator of the multiverse, destroys the wall around the multiverse and then re-imprisons Her. And he's literally just some Bruce Wayne.

Curze would have to be *so* much worse to be that terrible.
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>>746059271
Yeah, Kurz would do all of that and worse if he had the opportunity.
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>>746059172
Yes suppose to be most major legendary figures so yeah. People who think he's a modern turk are retarded and don't understand the Anatolia of today isn't the Anatolia of several thousand years ago
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>>746057283
As I said here >>746059068

The closest modern genetic relation the emperor has are sardinians (60-70% neolithic anatolian DNA) not turks or jeets or whatever.

Other populations that are close are greeks, italians, and basques
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>>746055129
What is even fucking going on in this image?
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I like the ones where he's a twink shota
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>>746013549
Why would I salute the chaos god of tyranny?
Builder of humanity's tomb.
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>>746014703
is doner kebab good never had any
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>>746059563
It's okay.

If I had to choose between taco, burger, kebab I would choose burger every time
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>>746059487
Asuka, Cooler, Alpharius (Omegon?), and Chud ice fishing. What's not to get?
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why is space king so much better than 40k
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>>746059072
And that's why it won't be Magnus. Magnus switching sides changes way too much with the setting
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>>746049142
Tyranids should get a named character/character that can communicate, there I said it.
No, Genestealer Cults dont count
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>>746015387
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It'll be Angron.
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Are sisters of battle biological purists or something? I've never seen any art or depictions of them with cyborg hands or feet like you would see with commissars or space marines. The most I've seen is a cyborg eye.
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>>746013609
>The emperor's naked!
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>>746059726
Yeah, and it should be a hot woman and she should have, like, bone wings, and she could be called Kerrigan and be the main character from now on.
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>>746059925
this but unironically
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Is any redeemed primearch REALLY likely to be one of the 4? He would need be replaced by a suitable loyalist that fit the same thinking and operating as the previous.
Like, would Gulliman make a good replacement for Angron? The Lion for Fulgrum?
Makes no sense. No, it would need to be one of the undivided traitor primearchs.
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>>746059726
why do you want to ruin the perfect faction?
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>>746059726
>Bring back the zoats!
No lol
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>newest Trazyn novel has people thinking he's got Dorn in his Nekronballs
>"Praetorian Seventh" is just a regiment that James Porkchop added last year
L
MAO
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>>746059958
>He would need be replaced by a suitable loyalist that fit the same thinking and operating as the previous.
No he wouldn't. There's nothing stopping them from throwing a wild card into the mix.
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>>746059075
Distance from Prospero? They were in Warp travel at the time? The original group was effected, but the gene-children weren't?
They don't explicitly say what happened, and I hope they never do explain it.
They just say the Blood Ravens forgot their Primarch, and keep finding lore that points them in the correct direction, which needs to be hidden or destroyed.

Considering they have an unusually high amount of Psykers, a red motif, and are unrecorded in many Imperial records, the running bet is that they're loyalist Thousand Sons. They're also SUPER big on rooting out heretics, almost like they're trying to make up for something on an ideological necessity level, even if they don't explicitly know why it's so deeply ingrained in chapter culture.
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>>746059726
>Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours.
>Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply.
>Death is irrelevant. Your archaic cultures are authority-driven. To facilitate our introduction into your societies, it has been decided that a human voice will speak for us in all communications. You have been chosen to be that voice.
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>>746059991
Aren't the zoats back in kill team?
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>>746013549
Is it heresy that I wish to make love to him?
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>>746060640
Not Kill Team, it was an expansion for the board game.
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>>746060248
They were already pushing and tempting certain loyalist they wanted during the heresy. Khorn did his damndest to break Dorn.
My point stands though, which of two loyalist we have currently would work well thematically with the four?
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>>746059253
No, it's not, and it's perfect that way.
It's like how Alpha Legion could be anything the writers wanted, and then it was explained that 'No they're all super duper heretical traitors and there was only one primarch except now he's dead to keep the status quo and no one likes the Emperor because of reasons we can't be assed to think of.'
The more they explain, the worse it could get. I liked it when the leader of the Alpha Legion could have been either brother, and any reports of either of their deaths were false.
And then he was killed and Dorn felt his soul evaporate, somehow, just to make sure there was nothing interesting left about the Alpha Legion.
>yes im still upset if you couldnt tell
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>>746060547
It is a cool theory, but without taking into account and explaining the flesh change at the very least, it does seem farfetched.
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>>746060554
>not mimicking and taunting
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>>746058040
But which ones are futanari(females)
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Blood Ravens are clearly Raven Guard successors.
>Has raven in the name
>does blackbird type shit like stealing things that don't belong to them
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>>746061021
The other main bet is Lorgar, back when they were the Imperial Heralds and not the Word Bearers
But, yeah, Warp magic is bullshit and only bullshit can defeat bullshit. Maybe one of the Sorcerers at the time was almost at Arihman's level and was able to stave it off or had a magic artifact of concentrated PLOT POWERS or something.
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>>746061297
Its heavily implied that the Tzeentch just has total control of the flesh change (and the dust itself), so who the hell knows.
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>>746061073
Get your mind out of the gutter.

Vulkhai for BBC memes she doesn't understand, since she's not really black.
Alphari, but not Megg. Megg will wear a strap-on, however, just to confuse you.
Hora, only after turning traitor. May or may not be a horse wang.
Conni so you can have a big tiddy goth futa gf.
Fulgra because of fucking course she would.
Pertahra for all those smegma enjoyers who I will never, ever, understand. Like, what the hell man? That's gross.
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>>746059726
that's how you get a faction that revolves around the main character like they're a marvel superhero

it's already one of the worst things to happen to the imperium
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>>746060547
There's also the fact that they're one of the few, maybe only(that I know of at least)chapters to have had their chapter master also be their chief librarian.
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>>746062049
it also humanizes the Great Devourer which will make it lose all sense of otherness.
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>>746059663
Because Space King is still an unserious parody, instead of an unserious parody that's now trying to take itself seriously.
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>>746060554
The Tyranid hive mind speaks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZyPamkEUs
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>>746059726
Technically the Swarmlord and special synapse beasts are actually sentient. Hell the hive mind has been confirmed to hold grudges towards certain characters that have personally fucking ruined its invasions and plans. So there isn't a need since it's already in.
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>>746062249
He specifically said it needs to communicate IDIOT. He wants to hear the Swarmlord having combat banter with Calgar
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>>746061772
does anyone recognize that penis and know what it's actually from?
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>>746058508
You can thank Russ for that.
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>>746053969
Recent book with him going up against the silent king and his armada was fucking funny and enjoyable
>"Yeah guys! Keep going! For the emperor! Wooooah yeah I got spread sheets for this victory!"
>Looks at the custodian
>"Holy fucking shit we are actually fucked. I literally have never battled anything like this before. I've battled countless alien empires but these guys are on a whole different level. They are doing shit I cannot fucking explain and making our ships look like paper boats. By my father how that fuck are we gonna beat this fuck?!"
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>>746062304
do NOT be rude
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>>746062494
>You can thank Russ for that.
And you can thank Horus for that.
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>>746013549
The more recent 40k heavily imply that Big E will fully return, but as a Child, a "Star Child".
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>>746062494
There was bad blood between him and Mags, but Russ was following Horus' orders.
He was more than willing to do it, but the wrong person was pulling on his leash.
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>>746034205
Impossible. Who would accept a female god of humanity? Who would follower her to war? Plus how are the sensei born? They're the emperor's children. She can't be constantly pregnant.
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>>746062717
Eggs
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>>746062603
Did Horus personally burn Prospero to the ground?
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>>746062717
Sensei got retconned a while ago.
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>>746062798
See >746062708
He was holding the leash. Rus was a dog who took orders at the time.
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>>746062685
He'll split in two. The Dark King will stay on Terra and begin a Dark Imperium with extreme tyranny but be very effective on stomping Chaos. The Star Child will take on the Imperium's more noble minds but probably be forced on the run and be more focused on mere survival.
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>>746062717
>She can't be constantly pregnant.
Not with that attitude.
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>>746063023
>Imperium with extreme tyranny
Thats just the Imperium.
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>>746015335
>until the 1300s AD
1000's actually
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So if his entire gimmick was to stop the evil warp creatures from spreading why was his first action making everyone visit the warp even if it's for something as minor as grocery shopping
Am I just legit missing something
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>>746063181
Nah, it's the Tyranny of Bureaucracy. Which is wasteful. Dark King will inject his commandments directly in people's brains from across the Galaxy and pop their brains like a grape if they put up a fuss.
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>>746062717
>>746062753
My empress, you only have so many eggs.
>Bitch, I can shapeshift, change my mass, teleport, and arm-wrestle titans. Why the absolute hell do you think my limit is fucking EGGS, of all things?
>I could make YOU pregnant, if I wanted to! And if you tell me 'that's not possible,' I will show you just how wrong you are.
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>>746014476
She'd be an icon/figurehead, like those pinup girls painted onto airplanes, and nothing more than that.

Because women cannot be and never will be, leaders of men. They do not have the temperament for it in general, and men who deal with average women, will not tolerate being led by a woman. Why do what the God Empress says when I look at my wife she's a total fucking idiot. I'm doing what makes sense to me, not some stupid broad.

It'll be that on repeat constantly.

The very concept of a female leader is simply inhuman.
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>>746015335
>Anatolia is and always was considered a part of Europe
We literally get the modern word for the continent of Asia from what the Greeks called parts of and eventually the entirety of Anatolia though.
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>>746063365
Jesus, that's some Tyranid hive mind shit
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>>746063357
The Emperor did not invent the method of warp travel the imperium uses. His great big project was to create a human version of Commoragh where humanity could hide out and learn to master their emerging psyker powers, and then come back out once the chaos gods had starved to death. Also to create a human version of what the eldar use for FTL, or just take theirs once they finished dying off(it's taking a while).
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>>746062304
>Communicate
That's stupid then. That ruins the whole army's point and vibe
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>>746063554
I'm not sure how that works when time has no real bearing on the Warp. That Chaos exists now means it exists at all times. No?
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SM2 is raping my CPU so hard I get horrible slowdowns after a few minutes of gameplay damn it
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>>746063760
Have you tried lighting some incense and flicking lubricant at your computer while reciting a prayer?
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>>746036468
>Honestly, why didn't Emps tried to create a Human-Aldari hybrid?
Don't worry, Guilliman is on that.
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>>746063489
So? Geographically speaking, Russia is even moreso "Asian". We're talking culture, not geography. Honestly though I'm speaking anachronistically here. "Europe", as a concept, wasn't really a cultural thing until, like, the Crusades. What I really meant to say was that Anatolia was always considered apart of the Hellenistic world, and you really can't get more European, or rather proto-European, than that. That's where European identity comes from. And the synonymousness of Anatolia with early Christianity really can't be overstated. All major Christian events, like the Council of Nicaea, and all major Christians, like the Church Doctors or the titular martyrs in the Age of Martyrdom, were overwhelmingly Anatolian
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>>746063738
Yes. And thats why Slaanesh has always existed, despite not always having existed.
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>>746013609
To boost morale in the SoB forces
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>>746063738
The current state of the Immaterium is why the Warp is so fucked and has been for millions of years, being particularly bad during the Age of Strife just before the birth of Slaanesh, and getting really bad again recently. The Webway is a partially controlled and segmented portion of that Dimension. Time typically moves conventionally but in the more decaying regions it can go backwards, stop, or be as chaotic as the Warp itself.

The Immaterium has always existed but it's current state and the idea of the Chaos Gods having always existed even before they came into being is some Chaos Wank and there isn't really any reason to think it won't go both ways. It's inherently paradoxical. So hypothetically if you kill a Chaos God in the future you make it so it never actually existed in the first place.
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>>746063913
Okay, glad you cleared that up. I thought you were retarded for a second.
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>>746064180
>So hypothetically if you kill a Chaos God in the future you make it so it never actually existed in the first place.
I think you're overthinking it. At the end of the day, a Chaos God is just a really really big daemon. The Emperor perma-killed daemons all the time, despite the fact that they too transcend time (as exemplified with Samus). Killing a Chaos God would work the same

Having a character that coexists with its past, present, and future self will always be retarded and impossible to write though, and invites innumerable unavoidable plot holes. Same reason time travel plots are always gay
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>>746064180
>The Immaterium has always existed
I thought it only existed off of the thoughts/will of sentient life forms?
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>>746063853
Jesus Christ. How is she able to take his dick if he's that big?
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>>746064325
I'm just putting forward a counterpoint to some Chaos wank that's inevitably going to get brought up because Chaos Fags like to act like the Chaos Gods are these immovable pillars of reality.
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>>746030423
because they created slaanesh
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>>746064395
You want a fun fact about Gorillas?
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>>746064395
could always go the turkey baster method
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>>746064325
>>746064430
Did anyone even ever see or directly interact with any of the chaos gods though
I don't think even the Emprah got to do that
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>>746064360
Either that or it always existed and was just first conceived of and influenced by those early life forms. The Immaterium exists beyond the Milky Way in the absence of sentient life, it just becomes calm, grey, featureless and static because there is no emotional force to influence it.
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>>746064532
>I don't think even the Emprah got to do that
Molech.
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>>746064532
Fabius Bile did. He looked directly at Slaanesh. Both his hearts stopped and he almost died but then he went
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo
and then he was fine and went about his business.
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>>746064532
It's implied that the Emperor personally talked with the Chaos Gods when he stepped into the Moloch portal (which is also how he ascended to godhood and created the primarchs) but the details of the event are deliberately kept vague and are one of the few mysteries that GW still hasn't demystified yet. Daemons also interact with the gods (like Skarbrand attacking Khorne and promptly getting his shit stomped in for 8 days straight). Chaos Gods are, in fact, creatures that tangibly exist in the Warp and have sapience. Don't listen to the Chaosfags who say "they're just ideeeass maan"
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>>746062717
>>746063376
>Dom Empress threatening to make you eggnant with her psychic powers.
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>>746063357
Get things straight.

Originally, in the original Empire(s) of Humanity when they had all the super tech, which only fragments of remain in the 41st millenium, Humanity traveled through the Warp using now-lost technology, and in particular beacons and Warp Gates in and to the Immaterium. Things back then were just easier and safer. They had superior tech, and we can presume utilized AI to mitigate risk.

Then the Dark Age of Technology ended and Humanity was also almost completely destroyed. Practically everything was lost. Then The Emperor and a handful of other Perpetuals started to take the reigns of Humanity with the ethos of 'means to an end' and 'acceptable losses'. The Warp travel they resorted to was riskier, but still necessary in order to reunite Humanity and give Humans a fighting chance within the Milky Way.

The Emperor knew this and so his immediate plan after he had his military force and had united enough of humanity was to make his own Webway constructs based on Eldar/Old One technology. So that the risky Warp travel and the dangers of Chaos could be significantly mitigated against.

The alternative to utilizing travel through the Warp was just to remain on Terra and the nearby accessible systems with only a comparative handful of Humanity left. Which wasn't feasible.
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How is the Emperor so strong and knows everything in the first place?
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>>746063357
You simply can't have an interstellar empire without interstellar travel. And the Warp is the only option for interstellar travel (besides the Webway, which the Emperor was trying to transition to)
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Why didn't the Emperor just grab a bunch of Necron Pylons, surround Earth with them closing all access to the Immaterium thereby making it safe to leave the throne and repair the damage while also making it impossible for Horus to invade since he would lose his powers?
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>>746064847
He ate his Wheaties.
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>>746064993
That probably would have killed him along with every mildly psychic human and turned the survivors into Soulless fleshbags.
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>>746064847
1. His soul is the combined souls of the most powerful psykers in the world
2. He's a 50,000 year old perpetual. Psykers get stronger the older they are, like vampires, since they have more time to learn Warp magic, so he's basically the 40k equivalent of a VTM Antediluvian
3. When he stepped into the Molech portal, he got a massive power boost from the Chaos gods themselves
And finally 4. getting worshiped for 10,000 years by quintillions of humans and having billions of psykers sacrificed to you is more than enough to make you a god

So yeah that's how you turn a human into a god
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>>746064395
The artist with the "math."
If the average wang for a 6ft tall dude is 6 inches, he'd be 12 inches at 12 feet tall.
If she's 7 feet tall because she's a dirty space elf, she might have enough room be able to take it.

Also it's hentai. i aint gotta explain shit
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>>746065061
Well then movw the pylons so they only cover the portal entrance he is guarding then
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>>746065061
I'm pretty confident the Emperor is 100% immune to any anti-psyker shit. If you forced him to vore 40 million blanks, it probably wouldn't even give him a tummy ache
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>>746064993
The Emperor was unable to pull technology he had no access to out of his ass.
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>>746065183
The Webway is a Psychic structure into the Warp kept stable by extreme Psyker power. Necron Pylons sever the connection between the Material world and the Immaterial completely. So it would probably have disastrous effects on a webway portal.

>>746065191
Null lore has always been a bit of a shit show and has never really made sense particularly in regards to how the Emperor interacts with them. If they had been kept simply has "These people don't have souls, are thus immune to warp stuff, but people feel weird around them", it'd be fine. The growing focus on Pariahs and the negative warp energy thing they have going on, and letting their Blankness get overwhelmed by suitably strong psychers pretty much ruined the concept.
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>>746065379
>letting their Blankness get overwhelmed by suitably strong psychers pretty much ruined the concept.
I can't speak for other psykers, but this is the Emperor we're talking about here. He's the one exception to everything. It'd be pretty lame if the Master of Mankind could get weakened by a blank. The rules of the tabletop don't apply to him, any more than it applies to the Chaos Gods
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>>746059959
Space Marine 3 should have a operation on Calth where you have to put down Old One-Eye as a superboss. He's the only "named character" Nids should have. I don't count the Swarmlord cause it's just a breed that get uploaded with knowledge from the last one.
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>>746065540
He wouldn't have to get "weakened" by them. He just wouldn't be able to have a Psychic effect of them. Nulls having an "Aura" of anti warp is a wonky concept which started a lot of their eventual problems as a narrative concept. I think in a best case scenario where they stay as a novel power without becoming power wankery, they should just be totally invisible to Daemons and Witch sight.

Because the fact is it's lame for any Psyker character to have to deal with some rando who turns your powers off.
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>>746063023
Dark Imperium is already the part on the other side of the great rift.
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>>746065872
Yeah. I know. But ironically it'll be the Dark King on the side lit by the Astronomicon while Star Child will have to go for a tour of the shitty side.
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>>746065554
Old One Eye has already been killed, recycled, and remade by the Hivemind because it figured out "Humans get nervous around this particular carnifex for some dumb reason". It hasn't actually been alive for a long time. Given that we've gotten new bioforms like the Norns who are essentially "Swarmlord+" it seems that the Swarmlord wasn't actually the best thing the Hive could make it's just what it chose to present as it's best "General"
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>>746065937
The Dark king is also a thing already used. It was what would have been the Dark Eldar's equivalent if their conspiracy with the high lords succeeded.
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>>746013602
Based Ambushchad.
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>>746065379
>letting their Blankness get overwhelmed by suitably strong psychers pretty much ruined the concept.
That's been a thing since back when Ephrael Stern had graphic novels.
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>>746064993
>grab a bunch of Necron Pylons
They're like 20 kilometers long and weigh as much as two starships.
The Imperium couldn't even teleport them, because they mess up warp-based teleportation. Only the Necrons, with their ability to tell the laws of physics to go fuck themselves, could teleport them with their super science.
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>>746065554
>He's the only "named character" Nids should have.
What's wrong with The Doom of Malantai, Red Terror, Death Leaper, Mist Reaper, and the Parasite of Mortrex?
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erebus > emperor
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>>746063853
>his penis is only 30cm long
ooooffff...
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>>746067069
Only one of them will ever have a throne.
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There are emperor's children here, right now, drawing gay yaoi shit of the emperor. At this very moment...
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are people still mad about fem Custodes?
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>>746067304
I do personally hope for their eventual retcon, though I wouldnt say Im
>mad
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>>746067626
Fuck, now I wanna play some chaos god in TWIII.

Which should I go with?
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>>746058347
>horrific monster
Leftist discourse
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The next big 40K game should be about the T'ros campaign where the T'au liberated the citizens of that mining world from the cruel tyranny of the imperium all while destroying a titan and inflicting heavy losses on 2 marine chapters
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>>746067936
I recently got TWWIII but I'm so fucking bad that auto results are always better than me manually trying to fight...
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>>746068052
Play the first battle over and over until you can kick its ass, then take the first town if you can in battle as well.

Its good training to learn the basics of your army and and battle and will make the next 10 turns a helluva lot easier.
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>>746013602
>out mogged by his dead twin
we all know who the artist's favourite is
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>>746013609
It's called the greek ideal
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>>746068018
>worst written imperial armor book
Also taros has been liberated by its rightful rulers and the zog tau forces are repelled
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>>746057956
One could argue they would have been better off losing.
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>>746059726
Let me guess, you hate nucrons right?
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>>746036364
Alpharia (and cheating on her with Omgri)
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>>746060859
That's humanity's ass.
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So which WH40K books are actually worth reading
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>>746063853
That's a lot of math to say that 2x above average height is 2x above average dick size
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>>746069665
Betrayer is probably the best HH book desu
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>>746036364
Goth Girl (Chaotic Good)
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>>746069665
None of them.
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>>746014925
>tranny game
But why does it make my johnson burst through my dungarees?
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>>746069623
But then it turns out you were cheating with Alpharia on Alpharia, but she was actually her sister from the beginning but they actually switched out whenever they wanted. Or maybe they were just legionnaires and she ghosted you.
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>>746056287
I'll never understand why people keep bringing up the orrery when it's the most impotent piece of necron garbage around. Sure it could cause stellar systems to vanish by making their suns go supernova, but they spend way more time prognosticating the ramifications of anything they do (and realizing it'd be bad for the bigger picture) that it's effectively an empty threat.
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>>746069980
Raven Guard have gotten fucked by being Pigeonholed into being the "Stealth" chapter as opposed to focusing more on the Tacticool/Guerilla/Freedom Fighter thing. I think they're the Chapter that has probably benefitted the most from Primaris in regards to Tactics.

All the Istvaan IV chapters should really have more going on together. Raven Guard and Salamanders are buds but the Iron Hands need to stop being such edgelords
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>>746043578
And to add to this, they corrupted themselves so Tzeench would not be able to first and put themselves in the one place beyond his influence knowing that in the age to come they would be the most potentially deadly Legion if they were actually traitors.
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>>746015363
>>746013602
>>746013549
not gay but this body type is actually perfect
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>>746056671
Necrons are too proud to admit they are past their prime and can never be what they were during the War in Heaven.
>Silent King erased some of their most powerful tech from their memories like what they used to shatter the C'tan
>Dynasty Overlords are always fighting with each other.
>Flayer and Destroyer cult viruses corrupt more of them every day.
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>>746070348
>Tacticool/Guerilla/Freedom Fighter
Which is funny cause in lore, they hate tyrants so should be hated by the nobel houses.
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>>746070348
Iron Hands managed to outautist and stopped Peter Turbo in his latest autism spree. Shit doesn't make sense, they only have one named character and isn't even comparable to other named marines.
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>>746069665
Gaunt's Ghosts
Ciaphas Cain
The Eldar books if you're feeling heretical

Stay away from the Horus heresy books. Some are good, some are fuckawful, and they all are intertwined, so you kind of have to take the bad with the good.
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>>746070683
I feel like they should just be rather isolated and doing their own thing on the far side. Pissing off the High Lords but being too subtle and distant for anything to really be done about it.

Worst of all was their involvement with the Tau. Raven Guard should have been one of the best suited for dealing with them. Instead they just went full retard.
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>>746071224
>Stay away from the Horus heresy books. Some are good, some are fuckawful, and they all are intertwined, so you kind of have to take the bad with the good.
IIRC only the first three are really intertwined in a way where you just have to read them all and in order too which isn't a huge issue as they were some of the better ones
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Should I start with total war 1 or just jump to 3? I have 0 experience with fantasy and my only 40k firsthand experience is DoW 1+2 and the dlcs.
Oh and are TW games dunovo or are they pirateable
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>>746070516
Destroyer cult winning would be best for the setting since destroyers are just oldcrons
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>>746063853
Guillliman is gay
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>>746072329
You wish homo
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>>746062513
sounds amazing, what is the title?
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>>746072146
If you own 1 or 2 you can play 3s immortal Empire campaign with those factions which is nice. I personally feel that 2 had the best Factions overall but peak campaign for me is probably Chaos Warriors Archaon.

You can pirate the DLC easily enough
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>>746036364
>>746069623
Imagine some nobel teen boy sweating bullets as an Inquisitor investigates his parents for clues hoping she doesn't find his lewds of the female primarchs.
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>>746069623
>Malcador tried to get us this.
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>>746027805
space marine 2,space king,bara
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mother or daughter?
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>>746069665
Dark coil series
Eisenhorn
Ravenor
Gaunts ghosts
The path of the dark eldar
Uriel ventris series
Forges of mars
Fifteen hours
Death world
Brothers of the snake
Lucius the faultless blade
The imperial armor books
The Horus heresy black books
Assaniorum kingmaker
The infinite and divine
There’s some more
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>>746073796
Fuck I didn’t finish my post there are others too but that was just what I came up with off the top of my head. The ciaphas cain series is also good
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hm
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>>746068012
Leftists are monsters, yes.
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>>746027805
Recently? 40k has been mainstream since 2016. Since Cadia
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>>746055994
>"how's the weather up there?"
>kills billions of humans for not following his rules
why is the emperor such a snowflake?
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>>746059253
It was explicitly unconfirmed in one HH book because Tzeentch snapped his fingers and turned every Thousand Sons member that wasn't on Prospero at the time of the scouring into a Chaos Spawn.

Then it to un-unconfirmed because another author didn't like the backlask and revealed that those Thousand Sons chaos spawn were actually Raven Guard. What happened to the actual Thousand Sons, we may never know.
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>>746070934
>they only have one named character

If you're referring to minis they have two now.
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>>746077458
That might have been the start, but it was Star Wars blowing its brains out completely by 2019, and covid that probably propelled it into the mainstream when all the refugees started pouring in. Couple that with Total War: Warhammer games doing well, which introduced people to Games Workshop as a whole, along with Space Marine 2 being a major release title.
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>>746072197
Bro, it's been 15 years. Comparing when they debuted until they changed and when they changed until now, they've been "new" far longer than they've been "old".
At some point you need to get through your stages of grief and move on, man.
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why was Mortarion such a cold bitch
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>>746013549
Why are those skulls as big as Emp's? They supposed to represent all his sons that have fallen and will fall?
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>>746013609
Is that how he looks to you? I see an wise old bearded man in my tab.
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>>746079543
The emperor as everyone (other than blanks) sees him is a psychic glamour charm. He's appeared differently to the primarchs. Considering that retconned lore has had him to pretend to be various religious figures in history like Buddha and Jesus, its a pretty safe assumption that he's normal human sized and just projects psychic energy whenever he needs to "be big".
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>>746079794
Maybe projecting, or maybe literally changing his size.
Magnus the Red used warp magic to grow to the size of a titan to punch its giant lights out. If he can do that, the Emps being big or small shouldn't be an issue.
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the shaman king shit is lame.
>>746017114
then what is his origin? aeon trapped in matter?
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>>746081259
40k is not gnosticism, there are no aeons.
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>>746081369
ok, you're needed back on /tg/
perpetuals are functionally the same
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>>746036364
I can fix her.
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>>746062717
Plenty worshiped Athena and those wars were quite fierce. Your perception is too spoiled by the modern, jew subjugated women.
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>>746081259
>shaman king shit
tldr?
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>>746055994
his psychic aura is what makes him look big for most people, he is normal looking and sized
can still shapeshift to fix that though
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>>746013549
Warhammer 40k is pure garbage.
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>>746083235
8k BC a bunch of warp attuned Shaman's early and very powerful human psykers had premonitions about Chaos and the future of the Galaxy so decided en masse to commit ritualistic suicide, their souls combined in the warp into a single soul and the Emperor was born.
It's but one possible beginning and it wasn't thrown by the wayside, as it's even used in Battlefleed Gothic the game as the Emperor's beginning.

The point is it doesn't really matter how the Emperor came to be, it's not meant to be explained. No one can know and is supposed to know. He simply is and always has been.
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>>746083657
well you heard it folks, a bunch of vaguely powerful human psykers are all you need to rival the fucking warp itself
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>>746081460
I get that you just discovered gnostiocism and think it's the coolest thing ever, burt don't be like stoners and try to shoehoirn it into every aspect of everything you encounter. The Emperor is not the demiurge, the primarchs are not his archons, the warp is not the pleroma.
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>>746019062
Why did Constantinople get the works?
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>>746033823
It was because he didn't want the Warp's power disseminated into humanity by his children breeding regular humans, so he made them all men.
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>>746043337
>that poor worm has been choking on Leto for a thousand years
>nobody has even tried to do the Heimlich Maneuver on it
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>>746083773
It made him immortal and gave him abilities. His powers, his knowledge are a result of being almost 50k years old and for most of that time being in the shadows learning, travelling the Galaxy, gaining power, taking power.
You're not meant to know the Emperors origin, except that has existed for a very, very long time.
He wasn't alone for a lot of it either, the Sigitillites, human immortals like Malcador and the entire order the study of the warp and more.
Then there's his dark pack with the Gods of Chaos when he travelled to Davin, took power from the Gods and betrayed them.

The Shaman origin is just that, an origin. He wasn't born as the Emperor we know in the Great Crusade era in that instant, he became the Emperor with all that entailed over a very long time.
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>>746014703
Why are you normalfags so retarded? Turks haven't existed as a race for longer than 1000 years, they are a mix of mongols, Arabs and Greeks.
Anatolia was populated entirely by white European Greeks and their ancestors pre-turkroach medieval spread, all the way to tens of thousands of years ago.
Turks are not native to Anatolia.
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>>746083773
You sound like a moron.
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>>746036364
Hello fellow females.
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>could have had femStodes be strutting gigastacies that literally stun you with their beauty
>instead we got bulldykes
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>>746084301
>could have had
Not with GW.
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>>746057591
Turks didn't exist for when he was born, he is Greek you idiot
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>>746084271
it's a joke you'll live
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>>746036364
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>>746084208
dark pack is so lame
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>>746084301
Attractive women are haram to the church of woke.
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>>746014703
Torks aren’t native to anatolia
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>>746015387
The Roach Emperor of Mankind
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>>746036364
unironically, Fulgrima (before her gyaru phase)
>was the only of the primarchs to rule their world they landed on without conquering it
>having worked in the mines made made them sympathize with common people
>open minded (sometimes) to xenos, but mostly honorable
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>>746083841
That's nobodies business but the Turks.
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>>746084490
neither turks nor greeks existed when he was born you idort
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>>746085408
If you could keep that damn sword away from her, she’d be one of the best. All she wanted to do was uplift the poor and impoverished so they could reach their full potential, and live up to the expectations put upon her.
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>>746083581
Then why are you here posting in this thread!?
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>>746085408
>Only Primarch who landed on their planet without conquering it
False. Absolutely false.
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>tactical marines official dead and gone
It's over for 40K
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Hitler was more based and not a fictional cuck character made by another person.
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>>746086639
Anyone whose initial aspiration is to go to fucking art school is by definition the opposite of based. The fact that artists are mocked in the here and now is proof of that.
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>>746013549
quintillion died for him
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>>746086441
Angron is such a crybaby
just go to the hospital and remove the butcher's nails
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>>746086639
Emprah is literally Leto Atreides II though
>>746087101
he got implanted with them as a kid
Emps said after examining him that they can't take them out without ripping out his brain (thus killing him)
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>>746087101
>>746087254
First book, Horus Rising it specifically says that the tech exists to remove the nails.
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>>746081259
Outright stated to be an "abarrant mutation" of the pariah gene; he was just born better

>>746083773
There have been a few cases of merged psykers happening where it resulted in super powered people, probably in reference to this. A sister of battle was the last one
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>>746085712
Greeks as a race did, they just didn't call themselves Greek yet
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>>746087296
Master of Mankind literally says that as fucked as the nails are they're the only thing keeping Angron alive because the way they were shoved into him the nails actually replaced parts of his brain.
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>>746087640
That's probably the retcon or given more time to think as Master of Mankind is book number 41 in the series, whereas Horus Rising is number 1.
But it makes more sense that way, personally I still think he should have removed them and then tried to heal him and failed rather than keep them in. Angron by that stage was already a brute, he was already a bastard. If he died then he dies, they already lost Primarch of the Second Legion and Primarch of the 11th by that stage too.
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>>746087753
>If he died then he dies,
Angron canonically cannot die at that point because he was already a daemon prince by the time the game first came out. Emps treating him but he's permanently brain damaged to be perpetually angry is a pointless plot development considering that with the nails on he's perpetually angry anyway.
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Kasrkin are cooler than Tempetus Scions and Elsyian Drop Troops are cooler than Krieg Korps
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>>746016445
KWAB
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>playing pic related
>try to be a benevolent leader and give my people more freedom and better quality of life
>9/10 times it backfires and ends up being abused by heretics, xenos, pirates or a genestealer cult

This game convinced me that the Imperium is actually 100% correct in being paranoid, overzealous and ruthless with its population. As evil as that may seem, humanity cannot survive without it.
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>>746088180
I'm waiting until next month when the final DLC is released before starting my playthrough. Can't wait, can't fucking wait.
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>>746013609
It's canon that he's just a regular looking guy with black hair. The primarch Corvus is uniquely resistant to glamors, and he glimpses the emperor's true form in one of the books. The ten ft tall bear daddy is just big E chooses to appear as because that's what people expect their god emperor to look like, so it saves time.
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>>746079309
>Implying
My grand dad has been bitching about all star treks that aren't TOS for 50 years. I will never stop bitching
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>>746089929
"I'm as retarded as an old fart" is not the flex you think it is.
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>>746089974
Nice try games workshop. I will never accept nucrons
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>>746090331
Sure, grandpa wannabe.
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>>746090331
Based
>Bro just accept the sequels it has been an arbitrary amount of time
No
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>>746090403
Maybe in 35 years once I start going senile I will have something in common with nucrons and will like them. For now? Fuck no
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>>746090536
Don't forget to change your diaper while you're at it consideing that you probably bitched and moaned about being made to wear underpants by your parents.
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>>746090613
>Buying underwear
Imagine falling for a scam. I have gone commando for 20 years
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>>746090852
>by your parents
Being able to read isn't your strongest quality, I take it?
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>>746084301
Don't worry anon, if that model line didn't sold enough it'll be squatted. Possibly the lore gets memory holed too.
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>>746019748
errrrm... i can see her nipples
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>>746091791
It's funny no one would care if they just made them hot. Just make them hot. That's it GW. Why are they so incompetent?
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>>746063853
Jaghatai prolly has a ton of half eldar bastards running around. Bro is just chilling in the webway living his best mongol life
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>>746092535
>last pict of Jagathai Khan before his disappearance
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>>746059793
EXCREMENTUS NOW
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>>746064395
Yvraine was a Drukhari before the whole Ynnari debacle, she probably has taken way larger
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>>746060554
I can't find the voices on Youtube, but I can imagine this being said with the original Hivemind voice from DoW II before Retribution changed it into scat fetish Palpatine, which I'm guessing was because someone at Relic pointed-out
>>746059925
comparisons and they got self-conscious with SC2 coming out of stasis mid-development

https://files.catbox.moe/dk1uur.wav
https://files.catbox.moe/p8h95l.wav
https://files.catbox.moe/vopbus.wav
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>>746092076
Maybe GW base their female face models around british women?

Meanwhile them chinks...
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>>746092729
Why are White Scars just so relaxed compared to other founding chapters?
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>>746093221
The khan didn't drank the emprah kool-aid.
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>>746093370
he didn't drink either the Imperium or Chaos koolaid and kinda hated the Imperium, and only stayed loyal because it was marginally better than Chaos
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>>746063023
>a Dark Imperium with extreme tyranny
As opposed to its current freedom and democracy?
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>>746093734
No.
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>>746063853
I don't like that math...
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>>746018368
40k in general works better as a backdrop and a setting with an interesting premise. Nearly all the actual canon stories in it range from average to bad. The benefit they used to have was that they kept things mysterious and just didn't explain stuff. But like with all modern mainstream media, it's all about "deepest lore" and explaining the back story of every scrotum hair of the 10 named characters they use for everything
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>>746093734
Could have talked more about Cadians



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