Its unc sloppa
young chads arent going to soiface over a jarpig in current year lol

>>746016236
The zoomies are too busy playing modded FFXIV and gooning to their slutted up Viera characters instead.

>>746016236
Not unless they axe their ethics department. Boomers might be ok with 90s style censorship for their video games but we're not.

>Fights to bring in young people
>By making FF7 games
lol

your game would be more successful if you apppeal to me personally instead of those other fags

>>746016236
stop making the same light vs dark story maybe
and the same cringy protagonists

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>>746016236
>game that’s a sequel to a 30 year old game and requires you to have played the original is mostly popular with the older crowd

You don’t say

>>746016404
Faggot

>Drop one mid game their entire childhoods and that's it
>"Why don't the kids love Final Fantasy like they used to?"

>>746016729
>requires you to have played the original
FALSE. It's not a "requirement" you buncha fags, yes it does help a lot if you played the OG, but calling it some requirement isnt true.. you'll just be more confused but not completely lost.
FF7Remake is just its own (messy at times) thing

>>746016236
have they considered making good final fantasy games again

>>746016919
>the plate drops onto sector 7
>big dramatic cutscene
>wow what a tragedy
>and then suddenly a random robotic cat appears and drops to his knees
the game is already retarded enough if you've already played ffvii. if you haven't its just utter nonsense

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>>746016919
>FALSE. It's not a "requirement"
>just google Sephiroth, and why he keeps appears, and the time jannies, and why people are dead in a helicopter crash but then not, but then are again, and also who Zack is and why he is alive but also not too and...and...
lol
lmao

>>746016236
Nostalgiaslop doesn't work on younger audience? i dun understan.

>>746016729
>>746016919
LOL they even want you to know the dumbass spinoffs.

>>746016236
lmao it'll definitely work this time. they may have ignored the first two but they CAN'T ignore the finale that requires playing the rest to understand what the fuck is happening. squeenix making big brained executive decisions as usual.

>>746016236
I enjoyed Remake (haven't played Rebirth yet) but it's basically built around member berries and specifically changing things just enough to be new. There might be something there for people with no prior knowledge of the original game but if there is I'm not sure what it is. It plays pretty well but definitely nothing I would be running out to play based solely on the game play and the story, which was always the biggest selling point, is genuinely worse than the original and stretches a 5 hour segment out to around 30 almost purely through padding.

>>746016919
>FALSE. It's not a "requirement" to watch Alien before Aliens, yes it does help a lot if you watched the OG, but calling it some requirement isnt true.. you'll just be more confused but not completely lost.
You realize how retarded you sound? It's a sequel that expects you to be familiar with the original, simple as.

>>746016832
Having grown up being fed shit doesn't excuse you from knowing better.

>>746017047
>just google
no, again.. not a requirement faggot. I didnt say FF7 remake has a great plot, nor rebirth, but you can just play it without having played the OG.
It does its own (albeit retarded) thing.

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>>746016236
Who tf puts their actual date of birth during console setup

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people under 30 can't even make it through a 10 minute youtube video let alone a 50 hour rpg. pick your battles carefully

Maybe the game was so shit only people with severe nostalgia bought it.

>>746016346
Young western "chads" are too busy playing friendslop games because they don't have any IRL friends. And eastern youngsters are playing gacha to simulate having a real girlfriend.

Absolutely doomed generation regardless of where they were born.

>>746016236
All that time Square Enix wasted on the Compilation of FF7 could have been spent on making new FF entries

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>>746016919
I dare say it’s even more of a requirement than if it were a straight up sequel.

The whole idea is that it’s “retelling” the original story but certain things are off or different. If you haven’t played the original game, then you wouldn’t pick up on this you’d think they’re just retelling the story. Not only is it confusing if you haven’t played the original, but far worse, it’s MISLEADING

>>746016972
>>the plate drops onto sector 7
>>big dramatic cutscene
>>wow what a tragedy
>>and then suddenly a random robotic cat appears and drops to his knees
More tragic than the original
>omg im so angry
>ok lets go

>>746016236
FF7 is uncshit just like KH and everything else made by SE

Only FFX remake will bring in new blood, with e33 battle system

No one gives a fuck about cloud we want racism wakka

>>746016919
My dude, I played through Remake and am now playing through Rebirth. This isn't a re-imagining of FF7 for a new audience with some nods to the original, this is a game for Compilation superfans who are familiar with the original, all spinoff games including defunct mobile games, Advent Children and all the novellas.

>>746017162
Not a very good comparison. You don't need to know shit about Alien to understand Aliens perfectly well - pertinent facts were presented early(the alien, dead crew, exploded ship, planet touchdown for infection, the clanker turned murderbot, etc) and you didn't need to know more about it than that.
That's the difference between good writing and absolutely garbage writing. Good writing will give you the needed information, natural and organically. Shit writing will either do nothing and expect you to do the work, or do some dumb "last week on this rpg..." pre-roll sidebar.

>>746018476
>this is a game for Compilation superfans who are familiar with the original, all spinoff games including defunct mobile games, Advent Children and all the novellas.
I've only played the original and i understood remake/rebirth pretty well.

>>746018525
Japs can’t tell a story without hours of exposition

>>746016236
I enjoyed those remake a lot but the best part is that i can replay the original whenever i want too. Pretty convenient.

>>746018474
>ffx remake
>e33 battle system
please shoot yourself in the head

>>746019127
I don't know why people glaze that paper mario ass battle system

>>746016236
The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.
tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.

>>746016729
Don't forget all the DEI censored garbage too.

they'd play it if it was a roblox game

>>746019531
already happening

>>746016236
Not until they get rid of all the old guard. I feel like every new FF game a bunch of people pop out of the woodwork to go:
>b-but Yukinigga Niggamori who designed the magic system for FF3 back in 1990 and haven't done anything noteworthy since is working on the new game, that means it will be a masterpiece!!!

Or at the very least get rid of people like Nomura and Yoshida who despite being like 60 are perpetually stuck in 2002 and think skateboarding & Blink-182 are peak coolness or whatever.

>>746019996
when FF was at its peak it was because of young blood. both SE and its retarded fans still cling to the delusion that the young blood is still young. just because nomura still has a mind like a 13 year old doesn't make it so.

SE needed young blood 20 years ago. it needed it 10 years ago. and it needs it today. But they refuse.

Things change, franchises end. It's unrealistic to expect the things you had as a kid to go on forever. Our parents and their parents before them had to deal with the same shit.

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>>746020235
I understand marvel or star wars going on and on because there are so many characters and worlds but SE really wanted FF7 to be a forever franchise, and they're going to keep trying, but it just doesn't have the scope. cloud and sephiroth can't just keep having the same fight forever, but there are people at SE who believe that's the best way to go.

FFXII was 20 years ago and even that was controversial
this means FF has been bad for a longer period of time than it was ever good
in the 20 years since XII we've gotten
>XIII
totally rejected by the public for legitimate reasons
>XIV v 1
total failure
>XV
total failure
>XVI
total failure

>>746019996
No, dipshit, the exact opposite. The series started to die when Sakaguchi got removed because it was his series. He was the person who held the themes together.
He's made 2 unambiguously good Final Fantasy games since then (Lost Odyssey and Fantasian) while Square has only made 1 (X)

Talking to 7R autists is like trying to communicate with some schizo who is insisting the next season of the simpsons is going to be the greatest one yet.

I think name recognition goes a long way. There's like 6 2D-HD strategy and turn based games with bizarre JRPG names like Triangle Strategy and Octopath Traveller and I think they're considered successful but I'm wondering if they'd be in the public eye more if they were called Final Fantasy: Triangle Strategy and Final Fantasy: Octopath Traveller

>>746016236
Young people aren't going to buy a single game repackaged as 3 games, all sold at full price, spread out across several generations of hardware, which will be followed in 10 years by the whole thing being sold as a proper single game (at full price), with added features that are exclusive to that version, which they also won't buy because they won't be young people anymore. The "FFVII is the only culturally relevant FF game" argument is no longer valid. Young people don't like long games.They don't have the attention span for them.

>>746020923
No, that thinking is exactly why FF is irrelevant to anyone under 30.

>they should bring back Sakaguchi, the guy who made one moderate hit in 2007 everyone has forgotten about, and one phone game in 2021 nobody played, that will save Final Fantasy and get the zoomers invested in the IP

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>>746016236
that 77% were actually 30% of the oldfags who would've bought it, if it wasnt for the cesnorslop and revisionism

>>746021130
Editor note: i specifically mean 7r autists because i personally hate 7r, this is not about FF because i like old FF and i dont want to be called an autist

>>746016236
>9+ million sales
doesn't have to tbhfam

>>746016729
Goonshit Slop

>>746016236
>Kill goodwill towards the series by releasing nothing but slop for almost two decades
>Only ones left are nostalgia slave millennials and gen xers
Sounds about right

>>746021551
>i personally hate 7r
What don't you like about it?

>>746016236
>FF7R will bring in young blood!
and it will keep the old blood too, right?
...right?

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I'm awaiting them taking the knee and making it turn-based and non-crisis core slop.
And rehiring sakagucci.

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>>746016408

well they tried to make a shitty moviegame for ff16 and that didnt work either so theyre about as clueless as anyone else on how to make something successful that isnt an always-online live service money siphon

>>746017313
I wish I did, every 5 years when I try to get into my old PSN again I have to call the fucking Sony hotline, because Sony in their infinite wisdom decided to reset your password you need to enter your date of birth

As expected, he couldn't commit to the bit. He simply wanted to let me know he was angry when he saw a post that touched a nerve.

>>746018476
Nah. Sure characters like Kyrie and Leslie are from random novellas but 7R tells you everything that you need to know about them for their roles to make sense.
The most useful things for 7R are FF7 PSX and Advent Children.

>>746020842
>this means FF has been bad for a longer period of time than it was ever good
Fuck. You're right. I remember analyzing XII trailer and being hyped, only to be disappointed by the actual game. XIII was a huge disappointment. I stopped caring about SE when they said VIIR is not a remake but a fanfic tier AAA project, and they're changing versus XIII to XV.

What a disgrace.

>censor and Disney-fy the game to lower the age rating so you can sell more copies
>game doesn't hit sales targets and is played by mostly by grown adults anyway
square can't stop self owning themselves

>>746022972
NTA, but VIIR isn't about the story on screen, it's about the metastory. Knowing the preceding works is required.

>>746023443
That's why I said that 7 and Advent Children are important. Knowing what happens in some random novella is not a big deal when this "metanarrative" barely touches on it.

>>746023443
Sounds shit and boring. But I understand its a useful tactic. Make people invest so much in the story that they mindbreak themselves into thinking it was all worth it. Very few people will consume the entire works and come to the conclusion that it was a waste or bad because they need to believe they didn't waste hundreds of hours on it.
Also it will never REALLY end so making people check out everything is just another way to ensure they buy the next thing. You've bought and played the last 5 games and read the novels and watched the OVAs and films and played the mobile spin offs... what's one more game? Maybe THIS one will make it all worth it..........

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This book was actually good

>>746024032
I just enjoy the games

>>746024228
You'll like whatever you get, so that's not saying much.

>>746024032
>Make people invest so much in the story that they mindbreak themselves into thinking it was all worth it
Maybe they dont have to mindbreak themselves into it, they can just actually like it.

>>746024032
They should make another FF7 movie that takes place after Advent Children

>>746016236
Do what Persona does and it will have plenty of new young players

>>746024271
Anon, my tactic is to make you be ashamed of liking something i don't. You are supposed to read me and say "damn...i'm wrong".

>>746024282
Nah the other novels weren't very good but this one was

>>746024032
Its just modern people gaslighting themselves into thinking that just because Character A from Novel B shows up in Game X, then you HAVE to read Novel B even if Character A does jack shit.

7R tells basically everything you need to know within the narrative but its enhanced if you recently played the original/read the compilation because you'd see all of the changes/additions and basedpog when they turned this random rare encounter into a boss.

>>746024414
>the other novels weren't very good
What was wrong with them?

>>746024335
They unironically should have dating mechanics in Revelation

>>746024403
You never told me why you personally hate 7r, anon.
Still thinking of how to phrase the perfect answer to make anyone who dislikes it sound as unhinged as possible?

>>746024528
I just said it here >>746024032

>>746016236
Did E33 grab a young audience? I was under the impression that it was uncslop too since it's a homage to every old jrpg as well
I just think square is not fit for big budget games anymore.

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>>746023867
>Advent Children
>Important
The absolute state of Squarefags

>>746024579
Huh, a lot more reasonable than I was expecting.

>>746024463
Kids Are Alright follows two very boring characters. Way To A Smile just made bad decisions about what the party members did after the events of the game with shit like Barett abandoning Marlene and Red spending 2 years in a forest hanging out with bear cubs. Traces of Two Pasts actually comes up with some interesting backstory, especially for Tifa, and has some good worldbuilding.

The only reason anyone would ever dislike something I like is they are trying to force me to not enjoy it anymore. It's an attack on me and anyone else who likes it.

>>746024707
Also Nojima has simply improved as a novelist over the years. On The Way To A Smile felt like you were reading a videogame cutscene.

>>746024629
>FF7R is a blatant sequel larping as a remake
>the three enemies in the first part of remake's final boss fight are blatantly those shitheels from AC
>positive and negative jannies are a reference to ac's positive and negative lifestream bullshit
Etc

>>746024032
Replying to this one again, not that it touched a nerve. I just want to make it very clear that this is NOT accurate in any way.

>>746024489
They should have dating mechanics in every FF game, period.
The autististic of obsession of keeping everything so pure and vague hurts the narrative. We can't have two characters kissing onscreen but we will have a genocide in the background.

>>746024586
>I just think square is not fit for big budget games anymore
The 7R remakes are the only good jrpgs made in this decade

>>746024942
it's okay to be this negative as long as you like 7R

>>746016236
>again

>>746016236
Why would a remake of a 30 year old game bring in young blood. The remakes themselves basically require you to have played the original to even understand what's going on

>>746016236
The actual truth is that gun&ball zoomers would never buy a final fantasy game, however it was packaged.
The only zoomers who would buy a final fantasy game would have the same tastes as those 30+ gamers, so you appeal to oldfags or nobody at all.

>>746016236
Not all media needs to target young people. Most people aren't young.

>>746025317
if you played part 1 as a preteen you'll be an adult when part 3 releases.
everything about ff7r has pissed me off

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>>746016236
Then Square needs to fix Japan's birthrate issue to get more young people to play FF.

>>746020712
We already had a FF7 movie and it sucked.

>>746016236
FF16 was meant to bring in the young crowd that's why they made it a braindead action game based off Game of Thrones. 7R is clearly for the uncs.

>>746016236
bigger mystery is why SE has a million very popular IPs due to their manga publishing business and all they fucking do with that IP is make mobile slop spinoffs

Unironically they should make one more FF7 game after Revelation to finally give all these characters a satisfying ending

>>746025690
>Unironically they should make one more FF7 game after Revelation to finally give all these characters a satisfying ending
that's revelation

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>>746024489
They’ve already implied we’re getting multiple highwind scenes so it’s happening

>>746025690
and it would be such fun when it releases for PS8 in 2036

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>>746025690
>a satisfying ending
Just keep buying, friend. It will happen someday. Just like with Kingdom Hearts...

>>746025690
That’s what they’re doing with Revelation

Final Fantasy only became popular due to lack of competition at the time.

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>why doesn't young peoples like ff ?
>Could it be the release schedule ?
>We only made 2 original single player game since 2009, 17 years ago
>Maybe because ff7re is not really a remake but some kind of strange reboot/spinoff/whatif ?
>Hmmm, no
>I know, what they want is...shitty action-rpg
>Turn-based is dead, trust me

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Why is Final Fantasy VII the only game Square Enix has made that has any long lasting cultural impact?

>>746019996
>think skateboarding & Blink-182 are peak coolness
if that were true the games would be good, not shit

>>746029057
you need to stop pretending people gooning to tifa is cultural relevance, or what the value of that relevance is when it's no different to people jerking it to lara croft of overwatch characters. you think they are all buying tomb raider games and telling themselves their cum tributes are part of culture?

Five step plan to save Square:
>put Cloud, Black Mage, Chocobo and Moogle into Fortnite
>rerelease all the classic games, Pixel Remasters 1-6, Lowpoly Remasters 7-9, put the HD versions of X and XII on sale, I don't know what XI's situation is like but put out a free trial that covers Prishe's story
>take inspiration from whatever anime is hip right now, Jujutsu Kaisen, make the next mainline game a turn based battle anime taking place in a city
>make the girls hot, pure girl next door, tomboy who's a princess, safe horny hag with big tits, furry girl, loli, hell make Shiva a party member
>make sure the game is standalone, no sequels, no dlc, no chapters, just give us a finished game at 40 bucks

>>746030628
Better plan:
>SE milk ff7 and kh forever and I buy it no matter how bad it gets
>I tell everyone who doesn't buy it that they are old and miserable
>at 65 years of age I am playing the latest sora donald and goofy mobile game that goes nowhere
>I win

>>746030628
>how to turn the franchise into persona trails slop
NO

>>746031947
Literally me

>>746031947
>ff7 and kh forever and I buy it no matter how bad it gets
Ff7 is in a better state now than it was during crisis core/advent childen

>>746016919
Get a load of this faggot. The game makes no sense as a standalone title. It absolutely requires knowledge of the original to not be a confusing clusterfuck.

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Bigger tits and a fully expanded honey bee inn would've done the trick.

>>746032417
I will say literally anything to defend the remakes and promote sales of it while quashing any negativity surrounding them

>>746016512
>Nooooo, my villains can't be evil, they must le gray or something

>>746032051
Yes, turn it back into a jrpg and not just last decade's western trends in an attempt to get the gun and ball audience

>>746032523
>turn it back into a jrpg and not just last decade's western trends in an attempt to get the gun and ball audience
persona and trails arent standards you fool, FF wasnt this anime back in the day

>Zoomer plays ff7 remake half way.
>"Well, that was ok i guess"
>"not really my thing tho ngl"
>proceed to move on and not buy rebirth.
I don't see how square can salvage this.

>>746016236
>Square makes a plethora or retarded changes to appeal to not-the original ff7 audience
>Only worked for 23% of its sales
I do enjoy this pretty good, but would enjoy it much more to see square floundering to push ff7r3 harder than they've been with rebirth

>>746032873
By just accepting it is not gonna be everyone's cup of tea.

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>>746016346
This.

What was wrong with just remaking the old game? Zooms clearly don't mind turn based rpgs seeing as how much they jerk off clair obscur
Ff7r sucks and is kinda gay. It didn't need to be 3 games, it didn't need to be an original story, it didn't need more fetch quests and gay waypoints

Dumb question
Are tranny femboy protagonists a selling point or a drawback for zoomers? I genuinely don't know what zoomers think about sex and degeneracy because they are simultaneously massive gooners who make masturbation their personality and are always looking for the current art trend to follow and massive puritans who witchhunt and cancel artists for drawing the wrong kind of porn.

>>746016878
Kids don't even know what Zelda games are. The past decade was just Breath of the Wild.

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>>746016236
>Make stealth compilation game that requires knowledge of over 30 years of FF7 spinoffs, some of which weren't even released outside of Japan
>"Wtf why aren't zoomers buying our game??"

>>746021158
>Young people don't like long games.They don't have the attention span for them.
E33 and BG3 are successful games. Are you saying they are fully boomer audience?

plebs had to stop liking Yuffie Kisaragi in order to disassociate themselves from myself
ruining their taste in the process

>>746026289
>VII, VIII, IX and X in a five year period
>VIII, IX and X one year apart of each other
Absolutely unreal. We didn't know how good we had it. Development times have become absurd and unsustainable.

Fuck the Spirits Within movie for killing Squaresoft. You can tell exactly when it started fucking with the schedule.

Same 40 year old loser making these threads daily, nobody cares anymore about this shit. Just play FFXIV or something

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Is there any chance we’ll se her at Gamescom

We really need the game as soon as possible. Lately there's fewer and fewer Tifa animations.

y tif make stif

>>746024913
The OG wasn't "vague". It's just the Clotis that doesn't manage to cope with the fact of her being a second wheel and continue in their crusade on gaslighting as much people they can, spreading their delusions.

>>746030628
>Fortnite
stopped reading there

>>746016236
>FF7R will bring in young blood
Yeah they said the same about 16 and look how that turned out.

>>746016236
FF7R is gay and is a sign that FF13VS should have been greenlit and we would have never had this ungodly mess. It’s like if Nomura did the Toby Fox thing of “I have a dream” and spread it across 20 years instead of 10.

>>746016236
It's pretty mental how FFXII, XIII and XV utterly killed all the good will the franchise had built up.

>>746016972
For me it's
>Oh no Sector 7 fell and Aerith is captured by Shinra!
*Dicks around in an underground lab despite hundreds of Sector 7 folk (with weapons) refusing to help, then another 2 hours in Wall Market and the Sewers to help some simp find his girlfriend while Aerith is potentially raped and bisected*

>>746019531
you have no idea how many of these people are women
>and that's been the primary source and cause of the problems

>>746036481
Bro has been spamming nobody cares about FF every fucking hour, we fucking get it dude

>>746020923
There's definitely something off about 12-16. It's like there's separate people writing the characters, the scenario, and the story. Every now and then they just end up at complete ends with each other for no narrative or characterisation reason, and at best you can glean details from a database or some shit. The amount of headcanon needed to get the plots of a FF game post X together and making sense is unreal.

>>746021148
The naming of those games (there's more with equally nonsensical titles) feels more like they built the title based on the gameplay prototype than anything else. Triangle Strategy is especially bad and Octopath Traveller feels like they couldn't think of a more robust name that shows intrigue.

>>746037689
If I had said Stinky Smash Bros would you have kept reading?

>>746038496
Don't worry everything it's a cycle, look at sh it released turd after turd till suddenly everyone was a fan when sh2r came

>>746026289
>It's been 3 years since 16
>It was such a wet fart that not even the Nintendo fans want a port

gen z and younger only play friendslop and other such fotm multiplayer games

>>746016236
Honestly i would love to want to care about it because the combat is not bad but i just can´t. Remake was just so bad. It´s 90% filler and full of shit tier mandatory sidequests and sections and the art direction completely ruined Midgar by making everything look like a generic ghetto. Plus every non canon character looks distinctively inferior in terms of design, from Chadley to the biker ex soldier they all look like shit. This has been a consistent SE problem for all expanded universes since FF X2. It´s so jarring an it always breaks immersion because they just don´t fit in, they obviously look like they don´t belong.

I looked at a review of Rebirth the other day and combat looked better. Materia simple back to normal and adding weapon skills looks like a good fit and i´ve seen revelations is bringing in job systems so it´s not as if i´m not tempted to check those out but then i remember remake (and CC and honestly every single piece of expanded universe) and my hype immediately dies. You just know that for every thing they get right they´ll get a lot wrong. As an unc i honestly liked XVI more than VIIR even though the RPGs are pretty much gone and it´s more of an action game... at least all those shit tier sidequests are all optional on XVI and the character designs of the main characters are good. Would have preferred a more anime art style for it, something like what Minaba did for Granblue Fantasy Relink or maybe something like Tales of Arise but then again you have those games for that. At least the story is good enough and doesn´t fuck up like VIIR.

>>746030628
>Pixel Remasters 1-6
Blows my mind that these genres are £9 each on Switch and at best they're reduced to £7 on a sale

>>746039017
This plus gacha.

>>746016236
Look at Square’s FF output in the 90s. One great game every year or two. Now look at their output in the 2020s. Games that are divisive with fans and not newcomer friendly at all. If you went in blind to the FF remake trilogy, you’d probably be bored quite quickly.
If Square wants young fans, they need more frequent, small scale games, that are mindful new players.

>>746036367
are you deliberately refusing to see how the MMOs fucked with it too

>>746039041
It seems like it they want normies to invest in the franchise that they need to get it to as many people as possible.

Say what you will but a game titled Final Fantasy XVI is going to put people off just by the shear number of implied games ahead of it.

>>746039156
>>746039041
I think Nintendo has the right idea, most of their franchises rely on subtitles rather than numbered entries which implies they're newbie friendly.

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>>746016236
Too much commitment, I don't want to play 3 games just for one story arc, plus the original & however many spin-offs and the Advent Children movie and what not.

It's the same shit as the Trails series, you get to keep fleecing your loyal fanbase, but newcomers won't care, as you need a lot of time and money just to get up to speed to play some shitty jarpig lmao.

>>746039017
Then give the youth Friendslop Crystal Chronicles

>>746039030
>revelations is bringing in job systems
disappointing
more raping of dead corpses
fucking squeenix

My plan is to keep saying "final fantasy derangement syndrome" over and over as many times as I can until everyone is too afraid to criticize 7R in any way again, because they won't want to look like they have the derangement syndrome.

Rate my plan.

>>746039736
I will hate the Remake trilogy for the rest of my life. And no amount of buzzwords or slurs will change that. If there are no more FF7R haters left then I will be dead.
They ruined FF7 the same way they ruined Star Wars and LotR: chasing after an audience that doesn’t exist, while telling loyal fans the franchise is no longer for them.

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>>746016236
>alternate timeline sequel larping as new game attracts mainly OGs and vtubers
what did you expect?

as much as i'm enjoying the kojima treatment they really should have just made a REMAKE and no that does not mean change everything it means RE MAKEing the game in modern graphics. no, thats no a remaster either, look at 8, ain't no remaster just a texture pack.

>>746016236
>pure adventure for boomers
>wonder filled entries for millenials
>edgy, kpop, subversive media for zoomies and alphas
how about we make square wondrous again? bring that sense of adventure back maybe?

>>746040352
Game of Thrones has been polluting every fantasy series for the past decade and a half.
>No more whimsy and wonder! Every character must be morally grey
>Magic and dragons are only used for acts of evil and warfare
>You have to kill half the cast for shock value
>Also be sure to include constant nudity and taboo topics like incest if you want a mature audience

>>746039736
Why can't you just ignore ff7r instead of constantly larping as a fanboy?

>>746040864
Because these threads are dead

>>746040864
>the posters talking about ffviir derangement syndrome are larping as fanboys
good to know

This might be nothing, but apparently theres been listing for FF7 toys from Hasbro. And they did just do Legend of Zelda...

https://www.instagram.com/p/DcbZ366x2fH

>>746038651
Chapters 13 to 14 happen over the course of like 8 hours given that they arrive in Shinra HQ the following night after Aerith got kidnapped. Not to mention that they know that Shinra won't do anything hasty to Aerith given that she's the only fucking "ancient" left.
Turn off your porn brain.

>>746016346
Fpbp

>>746041714
And Aerith shows up to Cloud in his dreams and tells him she’s ok.

>>746016236
>make a game that the original fans hated
>no one under 30 played it
Who was this game for?

>>746016236
>FFVII:Remake sold as a remake of the original
>it's actually a sequel to the original 30 year old game and spinoffs of said game
>expecting the 3rd sequel to said game to attract younger gamers
Is Square retarded?

>>746042509
Shareholders.

>>746039736
Uh-oh, Jimbo meltdown. Another however many days of you spending all day doing this, huh?

>>746021453
>not even japs like Tifa's face
Kek

>>746017323
I've yet to see anyone 100% Octopath 2 in a blind playthrough in less than 50 hours.

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Well I was 21 when I played remake, my first FF game

>>746016236
They need to stop making trilogies. That's when the series died. XIII is a trilogy, XV is a trilogy (FNC), VIIR is a trilogy.

Final Fantasy died when it became a trilogy series.

>>746044191
Lmao fucking unc

>>746043886
So everyone posting about ff7r derangement syndrome is an obsessed shitposter... interesting...

>>746044303
Retarded symbolic thinking. The series died after shitty games like FF15 and FF16. If those games had been good, no one would care whether they were trilogies or not.

>>746035607
BG3 would have been mostly nostalgic boomers who played the first two.

>>746045901
lolno, BG3 fans are Larianfags. It's the spiritual successor to Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2. OS2 sold more than 7.5 million on PC alone, by the way.

>>746040738
Don't forget tons of profanity because that's what makes it 'cool'

>>746016236
>we need young people
>lets make a remake of a 30 year old game but stretch it out into 3 games with a story that has insane pacing issues compared to the orignal
good plan

>>746018345
They tried to break out of the unc bubble with TWEWY, but unc enix quickly put a end to any cool experimental shit that could mog FF and KH

>>746047271
TWEWY is 19 years old, goy. FF7 was 9 years old when it came out.

>>746016236
>Uncslop remake attracts uncs
Wowzers

>>746018307
mosey*

>>746029692
on one hand, Tifa was the most r34-ed character pre-AI
on the other hand is my dick

>>746025317
The REmakes brought in a lot of newfags to Resident Evil

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>>746016919
>it's not a requirement
>you just need it to understand shit
>but not a requirement
it's insane you typed this retarded shit, solved the captcha and decided to post it with a straight face.

>>746016236

They made a new story that will not matter until the last installment so they can keep the plot mostly intact. The combat is the only good thing about the game.

>>746016919

The story they chose and the three game split are the worst of both worlds. They shit the bed with these choices.

>>746018307
The fade indicates Barret was upset for a while, and he only jumps up and runs off when Tifa points out the flower girl said Marlene was safe.
But you're just a retard, so all that probably went right past you.

>time jannies

But Revelations won't bring in money.

I'm the youngest ff7 remake fan and no other game have i ever seen with side quests be called filler like they way ff7r has.

you just can't know what is "filler" if you've never played og because it uses the same shit that is in every other modern game

>>746016236
I'm sure these games are well-made and all, but I just can't bother with them because there's too many spin-offs and prequels to keep up just to understand them as well as novels and a movie. It's too much homework and it seems like the remakes are made to reward the superfans for sticking around.

>>746016236
How do they know? Did they ask?

>>746022606
FFXVI is somehow even more of an unc game than a remake of a 30 year old unc game, because Yoshida is an old man whose tastes are trapped in the early 90s and outlook on the industry is trapped in 2009 so left to his own devices all he will do is an American cinematic action version of FFIV, a game that wouldn't have even been all that beloved if it actually had been released on the Xbox 360.

They should have dropped the numbers after 5.
It's daunting for some who knows nothing about the series to try and start at FF28 or whatever

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>everything is bad now
>but being stuck in design philosophies from when things were still good, is also bad
How about fuck all of you and nobody should listen to you sour fucks about anything ever. All you do is justify your lack of interest in some shit that doesn't hit your dopamine receptors as fast as anime titties and treat your low attention span as something that needs to be addressed by the game devs, like that isn't 100% of the reason why other modern games are fucking AIDS, then retroactively give it validity for the fact that you continue to be apathetic about something that you nevertheless choose to let occupy brain space despite your not engaging with it.

I've never seen hatred as performative or as "look at me, do I fit in yet?" as dumping on these remakes or even worse, LARPing as some kind of analyst who can tell the company all about what they did wrong from their couch while the brand is busy counting money from the gorillion fucking IPs that they own on top of this multi-million dollar franchise. They literally hand out these garbage takes on Xitter and Youtube like candy on Halloween and it's all I ever fucking see. Does anyone have any experience PLAYING these games with something to contribute to the conversation beyond pejorative adjectives or playground insults that conveys a greater level of familiarity than what you could've gotten from some dipshit eceleb's op-ed piece, something that might be conducive of CONVERSATION in this text-based communication medium? Or do you just like chiming in with glorified downvotes?

>>746061845
>Does anyone have any experience PLAYING these games with something to contribute to the conversation
What the fuck do you want us to say that hasn't already been said? Nojima, Toriyama, and Nomura are doing the same things they've been doing for at least 20 fucking years. There was a time to discuss why jrock prettyboy melodrama doesn't work for the majority of the audience, and it was so long ago that if the relevant PSP game were a human being it would be old enough to legally fuck.

>>746062323
>hurr durr it's all been said (we'll have 300+ reply threads about the same Tifa/Aerith waifu war from 30 years ago though)
Fuck off, retard.

>>746016236
FF7 remake should have been a standalone remake, not a series. The reason FFXVI mogged Rebirth in sales is because it was a one and done entry with no prerequisites, whereas Rebirth required you to play not only Remake, but the original game, too. Squeenix is so retarded. They could have released a single evergreen remake for FFVII and then moved on to remaking VIII and IX, Possibly even FFVI and V, and IV to recapture the younger crowd.

>>746016236
How about they just let it die and come out with something new? Not every franchise needs to be never ending, most shouldn't.

>>746016236
I will never play FF7R. I will never even play og FF7. The only one I'll play is maybe FF6. Maybe FF6. Oh and maybe Zodiac Age. Everything else pass. None of these companies are ever never going to get yougins into their shit, they need to make better games or make a new series.

>>746022606
If they want young people they could make a good game instead of bad action games pretending to be movies (XV and XVI), or pander to middle-aged lapsed fans with a reimagining of VII. Sadly, SE is too clueless to do that so FF will remain a shell.

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>>746016346
Yea yeah, go play some Fortnite again.

>>746016346
I thought Zoom zooms were the majority of personafags?

>>746038802
No you clearly don't get it. You and the other 40 year olds who can't get over this stupid fucking game don't get it
The world has moved on and you're still arguing over which joyless blow up doll is superior

'99 zoomer, I played the original when I was like 2, it's one of my earliest memories

>>746039736
You're embarrassing and your franchise dies with your generation. Young people either don't know FF7 exists or they think it's lame

>>746065826
persona is an actual RPG and fun, FF7R is pseudo action game slop and a slog

>>746016236
this is every game btw and they have no idea what to do about it.
zoomies don't play new games they just rotate through their GAAS games and FOTM cheap friendslop.

>>746016236
why would young people care about final fantasy they didnt grow up with it

>>746066436
Persona is a scheduling simulator with RPG elements, not that the FF7 Remake games are any better with how bloated they are with filler content

>>746059108
Just play the main games.
If you need to know the prequels so bad just read it in wikipedia.

>>746016919
I mean it’s a shit remake.

Fighting a time god and defeating sephiroth before you even leave midguard took every bit of power away from the dude. Plus summons are earned in a kid’s VR now, rather than being ancient pieces of materia?

It’s the fucking Star Wars special edition, if you played the original the new one is garbage.

>>746016236
>keep pushing ff7 when people even younger gens wouldn't mind something like X
I guess they still hold onto the hope 7 will still be popular forever

>tfw 26 years old
Only game I could have nostalgia for is maybe 13 trilogy and 15, grim

>>746061845
>this nigga is on /v/ expecting some level headed conversation instead of a bunch of adults acting like 12yo trolls
you must be new here

>>746016919
>FALSE. It's not a "requirement"
It is if you want to understand anything about these remakes. They depend completely on the original game. People like you claiming shit like that just prove you don't pay attention to anything outside of a basic, linear narrative.

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>Rebirth sales are low
>inarguably a bad thing in terms of sales
>has the best combat system & incredibly fluid gameplay (even on the 4K setting)
>normies can't play a game that requires multi-tasking & having to know more than a few hours of a story
It really doesn't matter at this point since they got to make Revelation & it'll wrap up a lot of shit regardless if they decide to do more in the future. I am happy with what I got & if Revelation has a long finale boss rush like Rebirth (or longer) then it'd be a solid, great ending imo. The end of the original was a more or less a boss rush after Cloud comes back from being retarded. It'd be fitting & it is expected.

>>746068710
I am 26 years old and I have nostalgia for dow1 ,spellforce1 and lots of arcade games I played on emulator as a kid.
>13 and 15

>>746016236
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i think they should make another action rpg!

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>>746066436
>persona is an actual RPG
It's the most dumbed down casualized garbage on the market next to pokemon.
>and fun
LOL

>>746065115
Fortnite is, or is going to become, the most profitable single game ever made. Nomura and YoshiP would eat each other's shit on stream 24/7 if it secured Square Enix 1% of Fortnite's yearly income.

>>746016236
Compared to Japan, 30 is young.

>>746069323
Not wrong. Unfortunately it's about the only place I know to have any earnest discussion of games at all, with most other forums just being blogposting and socials being an echo chamber of fanboy gushing indiscernible from viral marketing with no real room for discussion or critique either, basically the opposite problem from this place.

>>746070312
>The easiest jrpg is the most popular with casualfags
Holy shit sherlock! May I suck your cock!

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>>746016236
>making FF7 nostalgia bait games
>"durr why are all da players old bawss??? I fought dey wuz gonna be youngins????"

Square are perpetually retarded, I don't know if they actually expected young people to care about FF7R or if its just the articles phrasing on the matter though.
The FF brand name has been dragged through the mud since FFXIII in 2009. Its been literally over 20 years since the last "great" mainline final fantasy if we really count XII as such, and even longer if we count X as the last great one. No I'm not counting MMOslop.

If they weren't so far up their own asses about turn based being bad they'd have made several bangers by now and gotten excessive praise but for some god forsaken reason they can't even hire decent talent for action game systems to properly satiate their ARPG fetish.

>>746070579
>Unfortunately it's about the only place I know to have any earnest discussion of games at all
You can have that here, but not with final fantasy. Especially ff7 or any other mainstream jrpg. The fandom is just too big, which attracts all the trolls. The best discussions here are usually in threads about niche games.