>two weeks after launch>game is riddled with metafags all following some youtube video>every map is routed and optimised>if you dont follow this route, youve basically already lostyep, it's a cool concept but even after two days of the network test it's already happened - and it'll only be worse on the full launch. it's unironically over for this game - all because of fucking metafags
Just like in nr where you get to hit every of those evergaols
>>746016523heres the solution, don't play the ultimate normie game
>>746016807is duskbloods the normie game or
I feel like different characters should have different priorities during the exploration phases aside from everyone wanting a kin and some element for their weapon.
>>746016523>if you dont follow this route, youve basically already lostIf everyone follows the "meta route," then it doesn't work.
>>746016936no. because youll have 1 or 2 people in a game following the meta route and the rest will just basically lose by default because they didnt watch big bong binguses WOAH IS THIS THE BEST ROUTE IN DUSKBLOODS?!?! BASEDFACE video
>>746016523>monday>hallucinations took over already
No weapon swapping (Souls staple)No two handing (Souls staple)No dual wielding (unless you have an always dual wield weapon)No dodge step/rolling attacks (Souls staple)No backstep attacks (Souls staple)No crouching attacks (Elden Ring addition)No trick weapon forms (Bloodborne mechanic)No trick weapon transformation attacks (Bloodborne mechanic)No weapon swap attack (Bloodborne mechanic)90% of your weapon movesets are gutted compared to other souls games. And the constant triple jump and airdash spam feels like you're piloting an Armored Core with two variations of the same style melee weapon on r1/r2 (light/heavy) a shield (L1) a ranged weapon (L2) and a special weapon (Triangle). You can parry with L1 + R2, which makes you roar. Every character can do it, and it's much lamer than using the gun to parry in bloodborne.Clearly they simplfied it for the switch audience.
>>746016523Which is why I shan't be purchasing any pvp fromslop
>>746017036retard doesnt understand that having limited options causes more interesting gameplay dynamics
The sour grapes vs. sweet lemons/sunk cost divide over this game is going to get even worse. Non-Switch 2 owners are just jealous that they missed out on a new game from a developer who traditionally favors their platforms, whereas Switch 2 owners are going to be incredibly defensive because they desperately want this game to keep being goldface shitpost fuel like Bloodborne was.
Prepare for 8 way Layla Sniper matches since that one of the few ways to get PvE kills fast as well as snipe players as they land.
>>746017107>heh, you're just jealous that you aren't eating this piece of shit, aren't you?
>>746016523hey bro this isnt a live service game maaan. If I get at least 30 hours of fun with this new Miyazaki san (God bless his soul) masterpiece, then it’s already worth it. but I already known will get over 100 hours with it just like nightreign.
>>746017187if you play it within 2 weeks of launch, maybe. past that youre just gonna get raped by metafags. you didnt have that issue with nightreign because it isnt pvp
>>746017107The footage looked extremely bland, like Nightreign-lite. Terrible build/weapon variety, weak evemy/boss variety and the only cool addition: PvP is just lame as fuck where everyone just jumps 24/7 and stalls constantly.
>>746017036also no graces and so more limited healing, which will filter casuals
>>746017226relax bro, its gonna be okay man. when has Miyazaki san ever let us down?
>>746017325>when has Mitsubishi ever let us down?MicolashDS3 being an overcorrective memberberries festivalShadow of the ErdtreeSotE's final boss being Radahn again (deserves its own mention)My dad's Outlander crapping out in the middle of nowhere on a road trip
>>746017036>useless mechanics removedDamn, I might actually play this one.
>>746017473>same ol retarded /v faggot talking points used to shitpost against Fromsoft games every time kill yourself my man fr bro
>>746016873all souls games are. or fromsoft games for that matter
>>746017036>No backstep attacks (Souls staple)The senator has them you dumbfuckEvery character has one thing that fills your "souls staple" trope.
>>746017036Clearly it's not actually a fucking "Souls game" despite how hard Souls vets seem to be trying to project the idea that it is one.
>>746017752>gut 80% of the movesets>add nothing in return>1 weapon per character>basically infinite air dash/jumpshard pass
I hate the rushing in nightreign, and it's even worse in duskbloods.its just too frantic
>>746018018You can't even afford a switch 2 lol.
>>746018450ok grandpa, don't forget your meds.
>>746018534okay you niggers need to settle on whether the S2 is the poorfag cheap option or the elite richfag console, you can't have it both ways
>>746018534Not buying a nogames 2 for a multiplayer side project that has less content that BB's chalice dungeons. And one that'll probably die in activity within 6 months.
These summons suck shit.
>>746019271I can hear Baritone in my head.
>ritual site spawns in the underground ruins>never figured out a fast way to get down thereI hope there is a solo mode just so I can practice routing and the pve bosses.
>>746016807>Normie game implies more casuals>Casuals imply no metafagging and more fun>If this were some sekrit club drowned god tier niche game the metafaggotry would be off the charts
>>746017036>Bloodborne mechanickekyou didn't event try to hide the snoy
>>746017107It's already happening. People are oddly defensive of this game even elsewhere, which is crazy because network test build got old fast. It felt like Nightreign again where there were only a couple seeds so it got very samey and boring once you tried out all the characters. Then people that never played it are shitting on it just to shit on it. It was just a fine test, Not great but pretty good, the base is solid enough they just need more stuff to do and really the biggest problem is that it's not enough PvP for PvPers and not enough PvE for PvErs with this map. Ritual sites are too good for PvErs to skip and there's no reason for PvPers to fight otherwise. Having phase 2 and 3 play out exactly the same kinda dumb too
>>746019694soulslike is core vocabulary, and normies always say "the dark souls of X" and souls games gets everyone on le reddit talking. every single e gamer girl has souls playthroughs uploaded before any other game. elden ring and every single souls games sells tens of millions of units>b-but its not normie!!ok whatever you say
>>746019929No I'm agreeing that souls games are mainstream, just that the notion that metafaggotry is a consequence of that mainstream status is absurd.
>>746016523Get gud and stop crying you pathetic loser.>waaaah waaaah the-the-the metafags keep beating meeeeethen get better yourself?>waaah waaah I dont want to follow the metathen dont, just play better? make your own strategy that counters that meta?>waaah waaah but I cantright, because youre not losing due to a "meta" youre losing because you fucking suck and blaming this imaginary meta that doesnt exist instead of your own lack of talentyou could just also learn the meta, but you wont, because then when you lose youre forced to admit it was you all along
What a bunch of gormless weapon descriptions. No sauce at all. From has fallen
>>746017115ar...are we back ut2004 bros?
>>746020061That sounds plausible to me. Souls is crazy mainstream, which means a lot of lazy casuals play, and want to quickly find the most OP build (if there is one) to get started quick. Most don't want to do testing to figure it out, they just want fast fun.
>layla plus the other grail contestant decide to gank you>you auto lose I don't know if the behavior needs to be disincentivised or if the hitstun on the rifle needs to be nerfed, but you can legitimately get trapped and 100 to 0'd if layla's got the timing down.
>>746020106KEK
>>746020360I suppose when I think of casuals I think of people who only engage with games on a surface level and just "go with the flow". Going out of your way to look up information on a game, even in the pursuit of an easier experience, suggests at the very least more investment in the game.
>>746020106jesus fuck anon, you didnt have to hurt him that hard, he actually may kill himself because of your post
Buy an ad
>>746020119>I didn’t actually play the game but I want to join in the social media discussion about itis there anything more normalfaggot than this?
>>746020867Keep sucking that Mario cock
it's a fun game but it's also kinda broken.first of all, their idea was to make some characters better at pve and others better at pvp, but the reality is that even the characters that are good at pvp but "bad" at pve can easily find a way to completely max out their character by the end of the match. as a result that balancing means nothing. the only way they could fix this would be by not actually having a cap on levels and such, so that pve characters could potentially end up with an advantage that way by the end, but fromsoft does not have this kind of game design prowess.second issue and this one might just destroy the game is that you can insta kill people with parries, and there is no reason to be the first one to attack, there is no advantage to attacking first. and that'll end up causing a degenerate playstyle where noone will be willing to attack first at the end. there's no other system in place to combat this issue.cool game on paper but yea. don't think fromsoft is the one to do it. ironically deathverse which died in like 3 months had the combat for a melee PvP game figured out
>>746020119>from is such hacks, barely writing anything and the fanboys lap it up because apparently "fill in the gaps" is a cheatcode, also its a terrible writing style to put lore in the item descriptions, zanzibart!also you>wow this game doesnt do lore descriptions they have no soulpick a lane, niggerboy.
>>746022776because you skill vacant niggers are well known for your ability to parry anythingYou also cant parry every attack, so itd be easy to force the hand of a parrynigger and kill the faggot once he falls for the feint. I do it all the time in other souls games, no reason you cant do it here either.
>>746016523Nope, the final game will have major boss battles instead of Grail fights too. This game isn't about just winning a Grail fight. Keep up with the news retard.
>>746017036>compared to other [things that this isn't]Genius post. Bet you think Sekiro is a Souls game too
>>746017036Im nog buying this but Jesus Christ this is such a disingenuous list of complaints. Anon, when was the last time you used a fucking backstop attack. There’s a billion new systems for this new game, and they removed previous systems, because it’s a new game that plays differently.
is there any pvp melee 'dueling' at some point?is it like NR, most time spend autistically running around?
>>746022969easy there with the n word, chudparrying is not a skillful mechanic. it's downright shallow.
I want to play nintendos very own marathon like while watching the netflix elden ring adaptation, hopefully with people of colour representation so my wife's and her boyfriend's mixed son can feel included
>>746017325Frequently, recently. I don’t play From games to sperg across a map killing things as quickly as I can manage. These multiplayer games don’t appeal to me. That said, in the not too distant past they released AC6 which is the best game they’ve made in a decade, so I’m willing to hold out for whatever’s next.
>>746023139It ends with a 3 way PvP fight and you can kill players as you encounter them on the map
>>746020106Playing the meta IS playing better, because the "meta" is the generally understood way to play a game optimally. This doesn't mean it's the true optimum, it's just the current understanding of it. Not playing the meta in a game and still succeeding would require player skill to be significantly beyond his opponents, because not playing the meta effectively means to willingly play worse because you feel like it. That also means that if you're playing against people at your own level, not playing the meta means you have a lower than expected chance to win, again because not playing the meta means intentionally playing worse.I agree with you though, if you don't want to play the meta then you can make up for it with sheer skill / game knowledge. Find your own shit and learn how to make it work, even if it's harder to do. Most people aren't going to really do that though, which is why games need to be balanced well such that there isn't much of a "meta" that's way better than anything else. If the meta is oppressive, people are just going to bounce off the game because they're not going to play it in a way they don't enjoy (the meta) but they're also not going to be willing to put in the effort for a game that is poorly designed.
>>746023139It's Nightreign with 1/4 of the enemy/boss variety, zero weapon varierty and ocasional in level PvP with the ending event being a 1v1v1 that generally favours passive play and snipers.
>>746016523Sony was right to pass on this game. The concept is trash and only a handful of autists following the same cookie cutter strat will be playing after a few months.
>>746019545 RIGHTEOUS MASTER!
>>746023410he WONT play the meta though, because he knows if he does, he has nothing to blame but himselfAlso metas shift all the time due to people thinking of counter metas, so, theres no reason why you HAVE to stick to a meta to win, just figure out what works in the meta and where it can be exploited.The only people with a valid issue with a meta are those skilled enough to actually know why it matters, people like him who lack skill and arent the top of the crop players anyway shouldnt care, as theyre already handicapped by their own talentI wager theres a matchmaking system that will pair him with other retards too, so in that case metafagging will be a detriment, as its always apparent when someone copy pastes a metabuild with no knowledge or talent to actually use it
>>746023139Yes, depending on the mode it either ends on a 1v1v1 or a 2v2.
>>746016523>yep, it's a cool conceptYes, it is. So just stop here. I will enjoy this game on my shitch poo, you snoys and pc vegans don't even realize how silly (You) sound. Everyone can tell (You) are coping.
>>746022776miyazaki just can't into pvp, never could.reminds me of bloodborne where people just spend the 1st few minutes of a duel empty their guns and if they can't get a parry off they'd walk of the cliff. pathetic.
>>746023736Roguelike games on a fixed map like this need lots of enemy/weapon variety in the spawns to make runs interesting.Even Nightreign get samey after a while without the "more map and boss variations" mod that basically adds all the bosses from ER into the spawn pool.
>>746019694If a game has more than one choice, there will always be an optimal one. Metafagging is unavoidable.
What are you confused or butthurt about exactly meta exists everywhere even fucking Mario kart and Wordle
i dont get the people upset about the enemy variety when this is literally just the network test. there are 3 maps, probably 3 sets of enemies and many more bosses and minibosses per map that likely werent included to prevent spoilers and such
Sort of lame how you gimp yourself if you don't bother with kins. Everyone is practically mandated to have one. Might as well start every game with a kin.
>>746023103>Im nog buying thisSo you're going to steal it?
>>746023953If you want good PvP like DS2, DS3 or ER you need Tanimura at the helm alongside Miyazaki.Good thing this is just a meme side project/tech demo, possibly being related to the ER port begging by Nintendo. Similar to how BB was made as a deal with Sony involving also making/updating their engine for next gen. But at least BB was a full souls game, not some MP only run around and kill shit ASAP.
>>746020106that guy's an asshole, girls grow faster and are bigger before puberty
Because I'm not a FS secondary, I know that they like to do weird MP only shit once in a while. Like Chromehouds on the 360. So they can just get this out of their system and we'll be back on schedule for SP kino vidya.
>>746018018>1 weapon per characterNot in the full game.
>>746018718this.fucking sad though...haven't had a good pvp fromsoft game since dark souls 2.
>>746024452Demon's Souls PS5 and ganking new players with scraping spear in the swamp was peak
>>746019829>People are oddly defensive of this game even elsewhere, which is crazy because network test build got old fastBecause, next to DK Bananza, this was debatably THE biggest/most surprising exclusive revealed in the initial Switch 2 showcase. And while the quantity of exclusives on offer is undeniable, their collective appeal so far is another story. Since Fire Emblem is a series with limited appeal despite Nintendo's delusions of it being an S-level franchise that can get away with an $80 pricetag and a lot of the exclusive library thus far has leaned into spinoff and/or B-tier territory, Duskbloods is the most interesting game for a lot of people currently and a network test would give people a taste of what's to come soon (when exactly is unknown, but soon), especially with how ridiculously tight-lipped Nintendo has tended to be about future releases this gen. Nothing so far has made the system a MUST HAVE, unlike the likes of BotW, SMO, Splatoon 2, the announcement of Smash Ultimate, etc that the Switch 1 already had by this time. The closest and only such game is Pokopia.The idea that this game could either be a confused fizzle out of the gate or become a solved sweatfest in mere weeks is a horrible scenario for the Switch 2's exclusive lineup so far, especially for owners on sites like this who are insecure and crave external validation as an essential component of backing the Switch 2. I don't think we're in DEFCON 1 territory for "why the fuck did I buy this thing" for the Switch 2's library yet, but if the full release of Duskbloods does end up fizzling out, it'll push the needle from low DEFCON 2 tier into like medium. High DEFCON 2 if OoT Remake underdelivers.
>>746016523>every map is routed and optimisedBound to happen. I had to kill so many people in the sewers just for the mini bosses.
>>746025685the funny thing is there are quite a few places on par with the sewers people could go to that they just dont know about because they just go with what worked the first time. the underground ruins are a fantastic place for gathering tons of skill ups, the bloodfang commendation and some other mini bosses... the cave is really good, forest as well with how many beasts are there. they just dont know.
>>746016807>souls games>normielol? They're pretty fucking niche, despite the constant screeching about them on this board.
>it's a cool concept Is it really though? I kept waiting for their to be something more to it
>>746024437Stop making shit up
>>746025864Niche is when 30 million sales for one game
>>746025249Bananza was an asset flip with a woke redesign, annoying soundtrack and nonexistent challenge. Switch 2 is the biggest failure Nintendo has ever had, bigger than the Wii U or the Virtual Boy.
>>746028115Don't respond to my good faith post with falseflag faggotry you fucking nigger
>>746028237How am I falseflagging? Are you one of those people who unironically thinks a glorified remake of a DS game with worse framerate and fewer features is good? The only new game Nintendo has released this year is a Dragon Quest Builders asset flip and repackaged Splatoon DLC. Fortune's Sneed is woke, Cuckbloods will die in a week and they've completely abandoned everything they released last year. No one even talks about Mario Kart World anymore, it was that bad.
Ill wait until the real version comes out.
>>746023894>Had to buy all those shitty ps4 and 5 controllers due to stickdrift>PS3 one is still fine and dandy
>>746028237People having actual taste and not gobbling slop like Bonanza aren't falseflaggers.
>dark souls but the entire game is pvp faggotry as opposed to an ignorable gimmickLiterally why would anyone subject themselves to that?
>>746030078Because a bunch of people in both the gaming community and the industry are convinced that multiplayer is the most important type/aspect of games.
>>746016807>>746017036>>746017271>>746017684>>746018718Translation:
>>746030334People genuinely believe that instead of working to make computer controlled opponents more complex, we should waste infinite resources on server upkeep and netcode so a few dozen spergs can steamroll everyone with overpowered builds. Multiplayer gaming is the most retarded thing of all time, an actual pyramid scheme where only a few select people get to have fun while everyone else suffers.
>>746023894>shitch poowho do you think you're fooling?
>>746030761Video games started as multiplayer.
>>746031007>who do you think you're fooling?What do you mean?
>>746030761Multiplayer is fine in itself when it's either just a way to play something with friends you already know, or it allows for distinct communities to be built around dedicated servers. It's the matchmaking gauntlet that makes everything horrible as it removes any sense of community and relationship you can have. Dark Souls makes it slightly more personal but it's still a terrible experience that leans itself towards meta since there is a meta reason to play the dullest and best builds.
>>746023894>>746031982Switch 2 looks so much better than that ugly outdated brick.
>>746032094True, but the grip is much more comfy on the Shit Deck. And the Shitch Poo has no OLED option, yet.
>>746016523shitter cope
>>746031982The fact that you keep referring to the switch 2 by a buzzword only used by one deranged schizo on this board is a big red flag.
>>746032094They're both too fucking big which defeats the purpose of a portable device, a handheld shouldn't be bigger than a PSP.
>>746032558Why not? Those things are just consoomer devices and I laughed my ass off, when I read it for the first time. If you really get mad, when someone insults [Your favorite company], I don't know what to say.
>>746032558I intentionally adopt stupid terms whenever I see some stinky bitching about them, because it means it's working. It's that sort of anti-humor that corporate shills hate.
>>746032202The D Brand Joy lock grips fix this and make it Infinitely better to hold than a deck.
>>746032558>''stop calling my little tablet mean names!!''You sound like such a fucking faggot right now.
>>746032558seek help
>he gets called out and starts samefagging Lel
>>746032558Now I'm actually not sure if this is a falseflag to cause the streisand effect, how can you be so butthurt?
>>746033147It can be hard to tell at first but tendies really are that retarded without any sort of assistance or irony.
>>746016523Hance the term testIt's not just to configure servers or see if people like it, they're using the feedback to adjust the game going forwards
>>746034006I filled out the survey but I wonder when it's going to release because they asked for feedback about fucking everything. Surely it can't be a month away.
>>746034006It's a network test, not a gameplay test. Every developer knows how worthless gamer opinions are, which is why playtesting is purely about watching footage and immediate reactions of people who are told to just play the game without trying to review and find flaws in it. Trust me developers absolutely hate backseat designers.
>beta is over>had a great time with it>can't play anymore until it's outIs Nightrein any good bros...? might give it a chance now
my favorite part of these games is cosplaying characters from other games and playing with/invading other people, I hope we can do that again soon after NR and this, and without the shitty open world. Don't really wanna play as bald woman, tran chink and mohammad the english senator who is also a scientist. NR was better in this regard
>>746034337>. Every developer knows how worthless gamer opinions areTeam Ninja almost always takes the feedback from their betas to heart and use it to adjust the final game. Sadly, that feedback usually involves "these bosses are too hard".
>>746016523>>game is riddled with metafags all following some youtube video>>every map is routed and optimised>>if you dont follow this route, youve basically already lostThe interesting thing about the competitive and PvP elements of Duskbloods, unlike say Nightreign, is that even if there was some "optimal" path, that everyone started following because the path was acknowledged and then shared through guides. That would ironically enough, make it no longer optimal.
>>746034471yeah it's goodtheres mods on pc to increase the amount of content as well. since it's basically elden ring copypaste it feels organic
>>746034625I think Miyazaki said that you will be able to take sigils that lets you invade. He also confirmed "character customization" even in online mode but that could mean anything. Also the senator is based actually and you're wrong.
>>746034963the character customization will include some skins and maybe slight modifications to the characters' abilities and weapons, like in nightreign. obviously you can't make your dude from scratch like in all the souls games
>>746016523Game just doesn't look that interesting
>>746034787What happened in PUBG was that everyone would drop on the school because that was the best start and if there were a lot of players there then they would PvP each other for the loot. Duskbloods is a bit different because you're not eliminating the player when you kill them but at the same time there is a cap to the number of people that can be placed in a zone at a time. It auto balances you to other zones if all 8 people pick the Cathedral. So that will still make picking the Cathedral a good option, at most you might have 2 or 3 others there. It just means you're out of luck if you wanted to go to the Cathedral to PvP troll and you auto balanced to the Clock tower or something.
>>746021057>dumb ESL snoy openly admits his butthurt is solely about Nintendo and has nothing to do with the games quality
>>746035262>It just means you're out of luck if you wanted to go to the Cathedral to PvP troll and you auto balanced to the Clock tower or something.Also, let me put it this way: There are sigils that want you to be close to certain players Jan's and Albert's which gave you a reason to kill other players early on in the beta being excellent examples. Going Cath is your meta pick there because you have the greatest chance of running into the player that you want to kill. Even for the coop sigils, Cath is still potentially the best bet because you will have the most players in that area.
>>746035117IIRC there was an older interview where he discussed customizing the “blood history and fate” of your character, but in practice he might’ve been referring to the sigil system and potentially elements of how that interacts with specific characters.
They should have made it a single-player game with an optional multiplayer mode.
>>746017684This but without the basedjack damage control replies. Fromsoft shoulda stuck with tenchu and armored core only instead of polluting the world with stamina rollslop. Now their BETTER series remain on the eternal backburner for rollslop.Souls was never hard before someone tries that tired nearly 20 year old damage control. There is no filter, the games are poorly designed.t.been gaming for nearly 40 years.
>>746035859>Souls was never hardThe thing that it was comparatively hard because games were getting easier to appeal to the Wii babies. Part of the difficulty was that it tutorialized basically nothing and that the performance was fucking dog shit(15 fps in Blighttown on both PS3 and 360). It was a hard game for the time it released. Which was an era of actual baby games for the Nintendogs audience and Microsoft trying to push Kinect games.
>>746016523WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW SAD I WAS TO SEE PIC RELATED.It's literally just nightreign with some pvp lol..a game that somehow turned fromsoft pve into a boring min max time efficient grind. It's just fucking nightreign like the EXACT SAME thing.30 fps and poor performance means this potentially beautiful game is locked to this tablet and nintendo has god awful online services.Will they update the game, sufficiently? Will they balance a pvp focused game? Will they add maps and content? Or is it just going to be like Nightreign where there's one content update for money and that's that.
>>746036136The wii babies who had games like Madworld or Monster Hunter?
>>746036463It's nothing like Nightreign
>>746017115This bald bitch is going to rape the game to death if she isn't nerfed by release>can snipe you through her Kin>can jump around the corners of the arena shooting from the air like gay ass Sm*sh tactic>kills PvE bosses effortlessly risk free during phase1 with rifle airjumping>PERISH *RAPES YOU WITH 100 SHOTS*
>>746036790Exceptions and not the rule, for MonHun the 1st and 2nd gen were on PS2/PSP and the series did get continually get toned down and made easier over time until we ended up with World and then Wilds. The second generation is considered the hardest generation of games, aka the Wii version DID get easier and the 4th gen got harder again post DaS until the difficulty cratered again.
>>746018018>add nothing in returnThis isn't true at all. There are air dash lights, air dash heavies, light ranged attack follow ups, heavy ranged attack follow ups, blood skills, etc. For basically everything mentioned in this post >>746017036 which isn't either obviously false or something nobody was expecting the game to have in the first place, something none of their other games have had has been added in exchange.
>anon discover multiplayer games post 2005
>>746016523The network test was me giving the game a chance, and it's simply not for me. There's like, three or four cool ideas (or beginnings of ideas) for games here, but (at least in the test) they feel like they're mashed together with little rhyme or reason. If they didn't want to make a Souls or heavily Souls-based game, that's absolutely fine, but then don't fucking make it still noticeably rooted in Souls' conceptual and mechanical conventions. Plus, the network tests already got virtually solved metawise in mere fucking hours and became a massive sweatfest, which is not a good sign for a game that's supposed to be heavily PvP-focused (whereas with regular Souls games you can at least easily tune metasweata shit out). In retrospect, the fact that they glossed over the PvP/PvPvE focus in the reveal and that had to be discovered after the reveal in a sheepishly tucked-away website description should've maybe been a red flag. Just like the Switch 2's game and accessory prices.Maybe it's something I'll pick up if the retail game gets cheap secondhand AND if I've already renewed my NSO sub for something else. IF I even still have this thing.
>>746036463nightreign did add everdarks for freei dont expect fromsoft to balance and fix shit past the first year or so, so tendies better start looking for glitches fast or they will be stuck with bowglitch/estus cancel/chainsaw forever
>every map is routed and optimised>when the map randomly changes what goes where every matchlol shitposters need to do better
>>746037152The upgrades you choose are identical boring "Stamina +1" slop. I mean it is IDENTICAL in that regard, the choices are all the same. Guard counter, stamina regen, life on kill.
>>746037726Honestly it's not random enough. It needs to be way more random. This should be full on partygame.There's too many fixed spawn locations and the advantage you get from knowing where things will or can be is enormous.
>>746037567based bro + your drawing is so cute
no matter how much randomness there is, people will find a way to optimize it, i can't believe i have to state this fact, everyone here has a human brain and knows how to use it, don't they?
>>746037894>everyone here has a human brainthat's not evident at all
>>746016523You do play the game for your own enjoyment that's unrelated to getting first place, right?
>>746037179>perish>me hiding behind a columnwow so hard lol
>>746037179You can't shoot through your kin
>>746037567As someone that wants to play the PvP, Duskbloods is just not great either. It tries to combine PvE and PvP too much, if I want to PvP then I don't want to have to sit through a bunch of PvE to get there. I realize the sigils are supposed to help combat that but you still need to run around doing PvE. I know some people might say "Oh you have to do the PvE to PvP in other souls games too" but the difference is that once you do that PvE, you can PvP forever. In Duskbloods you're forced to PvE every time you want to PvP.
>>746037894They're the same kind of people who smugly declare that they could beat competitive Smashsmellies if they turned items on.
>>746037726this is precisely the reason why i simply didn't bother replying to OP, it's all factually fucking wrong and retarded and only the network test testers chads know it
>PEOPLE TRY TO GET... LE BETTER AT THE GAME? >IT'S OVER THERE IS NO POINT TO PLAYING ANYTHING MULTIPLAYER EVERVery curious how this schizophrenic mindset has arisen around this game specifically
>get to the 1v1v1 at the end of the game>both of my opponents are redditors using zork>they team up on me and completely ignore each other>decide to focus on one of them to guarantee he loses the match before they eventually knock me outteaming in the finals is going to be a problem.
>>746037726There will always be spots that will have SOMETHING at them like the Cathedral or Sewers. You just do your lap around the point of interest and collect the goodies. People will route and optimize true roguelikes like Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup where literally everything is random. It's the same principle as people speedrunning randomizers, the map you travel on does not change. You do the route and see what you find. I do wonder if some of you guys actually play vidya.
>>746038174maybe stop being a fucking sweatlord on the 3 initial phases broski t. got multiple times ganked the fuck out because I had 140+ virtues at the end before the dusk match
>>746038164Because it's not about the game, it's about latching on to the buzzworthy topic to farm (You)'s. Twitter has ruined this and many other websites. People cannot have a conversation for the sake of a conversation anymore.
>>746038274Yeah, they just need to balance it close enough so that multiple different routes are worth gambling on instead of everyone only doing one route per map
>>746038164>>746038334You guys are retarded, this happens for discussions about everything these days. Even Splatoon Raiders threads had people mentioning that the multiple for 3 is so solved that it's hard for new players to break into the game and that Raiders was a great entry point for that reason.Stop hiding behind exclusivity as a shield.
>>746034471Nightreign has no PvP, but for the nightlord fights alone it's worth it
>>746016805AKSHYUALLY, evergaol/invader tourism is a fake meta, only noobs who will immediately triple bar on Night 3 think it's the best thing to do.pic unrelated
>>746038356It doesn't matter, if it's 1% better it will be the meta choice. You WANT to spawn next to other players if you have sigils too because it makes completing that quest easier. You don't have to be part of the rat race rushing for kills or collectables for Virtue point if you get your quest completion virtue.
>>746038391>I can't belive people who are not ME try to improve the game and win. There is no point in playing anything unless every victory goes to ME
let's just say it's going to be very interesting to see how fromsoft handles a live-service pvp game with no pve focus to hide behind
>>746038569I can tell you don't play card games. Everyone net decks because those have the highest win rates and then you have to play around the net decks because they take over the ladder. Even if you queue into casual, odds are it's gonna be a net decker using it to get his dailies done faster. Even if you don't engage with the meta, you are forced to interact with it. And that means PLAYING AGAINST THE SAME EXACT THING EVERY MATCH. Every character will have the same layouts, the same kin, and it's going to get boring. You can keep crying that it's some sort of skill issue when the reality is that it makes most matches play too similarly and all the rng in the world isn't going to matter when metafags are going to make the release version of the game feel like the network test when it comes to character builds being static. If you're forced to play the same counter meta build every match, your build is also static.
>>746038717>with no pve focus to hide behindhe doesn't know
>>746016523This is why I stopped enjoying PVP games. Some people haven't yet reached the point where they realize how soul-sucking games like League of Legends are
>>746037894>everyone here has a human brain and knows how to use it, don't they?anon we're in a nintendo thread
>>746037726>>746038129t. didn't play nightreign
>parry>get 2 hits in>enemy player is now staggered>visceral and kill themwhat did fromsoft mean by this? parries one shotting is just retarded. all this is going to accomplish is that everyone will play as passively as possible because noone wants to be the first to attack.
>>746039462what the fuck does that got to do with The Duskbloods
>>746039523its the same game
Why do people use the meta in games?? Why not be the underdog?
>>746039516you can't parry skills or range
>>746039550in what world nigga?
>>746039523damn, >>746039431 wasn't kidding...
>>746039664it's the same battle royale extraction slop
>>746039516It doesn't one-shot. You can also bait parries with literally any other attack.
>>746039701>>746039704what the fuck is this ? lmfao battle royal? neighrein?
>>746038989>bawwww people don’t let me beat them with my unviable pet deck this game is trash all 1000 archetypes from the entire game series need to be equally good an assigned to players through a personality rear tied to their SSNJust play the fucking game man
Ok he's trolling, shame on me for replying
>>746016523its gay but the same shite happened back when you still had to import demons souls back in the day
>>746039713it does one shot because you get in 2-3 hits before the stagger visxeralt
>farm 3 clockwatches on every day>activate all 3 in the last 2 seconds of the game to add 90 more seconds of PvPCHAOSCHAOS
the fact that they randomized kin spawns makes this all moot, since they're literally the most important part of a run
>>746039865shut up stop leaking my strategies
>>746016523"Casuals" complaining about hypothetical metas months before a game even comes out is too fucking funny. You're spending more time fixating on what's meta than the sweats.
>>746039895They're semi-random, you can tell roughly what you're going to get and they're not hard to find.I also don't think they're all important. They do matter but they're also pretty vulnerable and easy to take out in the grail fight.
>>746039462You're a moron
>>746038027Considering nightreign's frantic gameplay (which is the core of Duskbloods)... I just don't think adding PVP to the formula will feel fun in the long runSome people already despised Nightreign for what it is. Duskbloods has to be even more niche than thatI keep thinking that even if I love PVP in souls games (I don't), I remind myself that half of the players loading into the match don't even get to participate in the PVP really because they get culled
>>746040065I dunno, the fat fuck felt impossible to kill sometimes
>>746040065>you can tell roughly what you're going to getthey're going to be more kin, so the randomized pool of what you get is going to be even bigger
>no no it's a escape from tarkov clone>ehh...no no is a pubg clone...>hmmm...i mean is a....hmma neightreing clone...yeah that's it!you are here
I'm sorry to be the one dropping truthnukes but this game is much more interesting than dark souls 3, elden ring or nightreign. I'll give Bloodborne a pass since that game wasn't full on roll slop and the formula wasn't as fucking stale yet when it came out.
>>746040068my bad, let me fix it thent. clinically retarded*
>>746040250Don't worry, it will cease to be interesting two weeks or less after release
>>746039780Would you want to play if the match is you vs 7 Layla's because some big youtuber put out a video called>THE BEST CHARACTER?! INSANE 30 GAME WIN STREAK AS LAYLA!!
>>746040212literally thiswhat mental illness do you need to have to keep comparing a car to an airplane?
>>746039895>>746040065They stated that in the final game, you will be able to select a kin for each of the 3 types to always have spawn. So the RNG isn't there, you will know exactly which Kin you will get from each of the 3 circle types.
uncomfortable truth:the ratio of interesting matches will be so low that it will be better to just watch clips made by youtubers like saint riot instead of playing the game
>>746040580is souls pvp even worth watching someone else do? it's not great
>>746040068>letting the game run on the background for 250 hours while you shitpost on 4chanWeird choice but it's your money, I guess.
>>746040689not so much pvp and moreso the invasion aspect of it
>>746040342>umm you'll only get like 100h of playtime out of this!oh no!
>>746040285Ok, you're clinically retarded
>>746040867>uhhhh... wait let me think... no u!that's the best you could come up with? sad
>>746017036Unironically this, kek'd at the seething tendie noobs.
>>746040580if every 1v1 becomes like vid it'll be joever
>>746041132you could r1 them down, it was hilarious. it's gonna be an all you can eat tendie buffet at release. they'll buy it because it's an exclusive and they'll get fucking rolled (in batter) (my batter) (i'm going to fuck them).
>>746040835I can play dark souls today and have a good time. try playing duskbloods 15 years from now
>>746041206Yeah this is the exact part where KINOreign gigamogs the casualbloods, the last 1v1v1 part is badly designed and low tone. The Nightlord bossfight is just that much better and high test.
>>746041206pvp looks like a game of whoever gets bored of dodging first will be the loserother souls pvp can feel the same
>>746041430The problem with the 1v1v1 is that it almost always becomes a 2v1. It happens like every time. The 2v2 is probably better overall because of that.
>>746041413It's funny how much talk there was about Dark Souls pvp being the "real" game but it just came and went, I haven't read a single peep about it in a long while but people still talk about the game itself.
>>746041780dark souls 2 killed the pvp forever but i'm not sure red men are ready for that conservation.
>>746041867why ds2 specifically?
>>746041658Exactly, just hug the wall or hide behind a pillar and wait for the other two to grind each other down, then start frag stealing when they're low.If they don't introduce something to punish the third player from doing this it's over.
>>746034943>>746038550Thanks! Is it too hard though? I do enjoy souls games and beat all of them but I struggled a lot with ER DLC.
>>746041910he's mad he couldn't dab on noobs with an op twink build because of soul memory
>>746042051it's the hardest game in the series because you have to have good planning in addition to good combat skills and the nightlords are easily some of the most advanced bosses in the series as well
>>746041910it's where the pvp peaked for many, everything after has been worse and really not worth engaging in. the levels in 2 being so difficult in comparison to the other games made being the red man very fun and it had the best fight clubs, build variety, etc.but >>746042092 isn't wrong that soul level also made some others lose interest in pvping (along with the janky hitboxes). so they didn't give a fuck about pvp anymore in 3 and elden ring. 2 is the peak of souls pvp in terms of people actually caring about it.
>>746034471If you get it for cheap, its pretty good.Arguably even deeper then duskbloods, since you have to build your character during the match and plan for the final match up.Rougelike elements makes it so no run is the same.Teamplay can be ass, especially in the beginning, when nobody knows about any of the mechanics.Endgame drops with every rank of deep of night, 2 - 3 or the sweet spots.If you can play it with non retarded frens its very fun and rewarding.
>>746042662nah ds3 was fun with the increased player limit in fact it's arguably the biggest reason to play that game
>>746036136It wasn't even just wiibabies, vidya in general was overall extremely easy and braindead back then and dark souls was one of the first games of that generation that didn't hold your hand from beginning to end
>>746042051Base Nightlords are santard souls boss difficultyThough Night aspect might be pretty tough at firstEverdark version of the bosses will kick your ass real fucking hard and you'll enjoy it
>>746041413You can't actually play Dark Souls anymore today, you can only play the remaster
>>746046562PS3 and 360 discs didn't go away(and you can pirate it on PS3 anyway). The PTDE on Steam accounts is still there too.
>>746034471the game itself is amazing. might take awhile to find matches for the base bosses. it might be frustrating learning the game because there arent many new players and your team mates will either be dragging you around at breakneck pace or ragequitting over things you wont understand.I don't play it on this computer but I still play it.
>>746047008Not online anymore though so you're missing a large part of the game with invasions, summons, covenants, and messages all being gone
>>746034471it's speedrun randomizer mode. Very fun with friends, less fun with randos.
>>746047770Dark Souls 1 still has messages on 360 and PS3. Dark Souls 2 on 360 doesn't have them though. The PC version(PTDE) needs a mod to see them.
>>746047872Ah I didn't know that, I'm on PC and only use the resolution mod
>/v/ when there is a game
Can we stop pretending like the network test showed anything impressive? It was just the usual cheap jank as fuck Fromslop with added jumps.
>>746050180It is the first time in FROM's entire history where melee PvP didn't feel jank. That is more than I was expecting them to ever do.
>>746050180My favorite part is the more you play the series the more boring it gets. Pajama man has maliketh after image slash thing as his skillZork uses an ultra greatsword movesetChina bitch has messmer serpent moveSenator has the thorns move from elden ring etc.It's fucking insane the reuse
>>746050180I enjoyed it
>>746032705>I laughed my ass off, when I read it for the first time
>>746050180had more fun with the duskbloods than the 500 hours I spent playing elden ring on pc
>>746023797not him but do you genuinely cannot imagine someone wanting to play a certain game in a certain way that doesn't align with the current meta or is this just some kind of virgin video game enthusiast war nonsense where you feel obligated to defend your side?
im ngl im on ng++ for lies of p and i may just reset my save file so i dont have to play this shit anymore. soulslike fatigue sets in when you realize you're just playing the same game over and over and it only gets easier because even though the enemies scale up so do you and you have memorized the entire map so it becomes repetitive boring slop. "just replay the same game 10 times bro" no i don't think i will.it was a good game its just a chore to replay. and if we're being honest if the fastest way to replay the game is to run past all the mobs why even bother replaying it?
Nips love it/v/ losthttps://youtu.be/Fb6zviRvOlw
I think the only true saving grace is if they lean into more modes. Most pvpve games are memes but duskbloods is only a few tweaks away from having a nightreign mode and I don't see why it shouldn't. Even if its not 8 players and there is no culling they could provide a full on nightreign 3 man coop mode with little work probably. Something tells me they wont though..
>>746051479Everyone who played it liked it.
>>746051479do you know where i can see more The Duskbloods animated stuff like that?
duskbloods is literally just nightreign but slightly better (debatable. some may say it's worse). so still bad. idk who tf actually wants online only slop. if i play online only slop it's on pc where at least i know i don't pay a subscription fee.
>>746016523I've not played and probably never will due to exclusivity, but surely this will evolve a new meta rather than killing the game outright?Like, can you kill other players while you are all preparing for the end of match duel? If so, then the "optimal routes" will be highly contested, and from what I've heard so far players mostly avoid each other when preparing, so maybe the meta will evolve to include more optional PVP?If so, then unless that also gets "solved" (like some item or equipment that can fuck people up during the prep phase), the meta will just change to incorporate impromptu fights before the end of the day?
>>746051715you didn't even play the game broski
>>746050281The problem is that parrying is too good and ranged attacks are too strong and plentiful so melee is probably the worst it's ever been in the grand scheme of things. I agree the combat felt good but it's gonna feel good once people learn how to howl.
>>746050985If you genuinely just sit down, play, and figure out what's good and underexplored, you aren't going against the meta, you're defining the meta.
>>746051790 (me)>but it's gonna feel good once people learn how to howl.but it's not gonna feel good once people learn how to howl*
>>746051745Yes you can, there is even sigils that focus on you killing other players during the build up phases, so you are correct the meta fags will kill each other lol
>>746051790If you proc shock or fire, the other person is just dead. Only your melee attacks enable that. Howl is powerful but I think it can be baited and it does leave you vulnerable.
>>746017036I dont think this is supposed to be a souls game if you can jump and airdash
>>746051790I mean the netcode not the game balance. Don't think I played enough to get a complete sense of balance. I mean that fundamentally this is the first game of theirs where you aren't hitting the air next to someone and doing damage, or having your weapon mysteriously phase through the enemy before they dodge a full second later. Even Armored Core 6 ended up having these problems.
>Half the posters in every duskbloods thread are people who clearly didn't play it claiming that it sucks and/or that it will suck and fail on release
>>746051895If they howl you when you attempt to proc it, you are also just dead. One shot or get one shot probably isn't a good model for the PvP, then it becomes 2 people playing chicken with their shields up seeing who can bait the other to attack first until a third player swoops in to use ranged attacks or skills from behind one of them and someone dies in the 1v2. >>746052004I think they learned a lot from a faster paced game like AC6 and that has carried over. Plus it helps that they removed backstabs so frontstabs no longer exist, those were always used as an example of how janky the netcode was. .
>>746051715It's definately worse when you're forced with 1 weapon per character and the PvE enemy variety is in the dumpster. All your build amounts to getting passives like more melee/range damage, more stagger more HP/Stamina. Really underwhelming once you peel away the fluff.
>>746052094beautiful isn't it?
>>746041206Literally Armored Core PvPA fucking quad jump? Really? were spirit springs all over the map not enough already?
>Armored core pvpadd it to the list
>>746031982It's nice that gavin takes those pics for you faggot.But you aren't fooling anyone eric
>>746036136>still malding over the WiiHow very sad
>>746016523Maybe I'm just burnt out on FS games or the gameplay I watched was just shit, but this game didn't seem to be anything special desu. Elden Ring at least had "Dark Souls but open world" going for it.
>>746037260Red steel 1+2No more heros 1+2Various codsSmash brawlThe last storyXenoblade chroniclesPandora's towerNeogeo on the wii shop,plus sega genesis, nes, snes, etcEtcWii had tons of games for hardcore gamers. It's one of the most diverse libaries in all of gaming
>>746052813>didn't seem to belmfao
>>746023103>he doesn't reverse backstep
How many characters will this have? Trailer also had edgy katana man, psychic girl and oni dude, so 9 total?
This cope from pathetic PC fucks is so bad.
>>746052913>smash brawl
>>74605319010 + the 6 already showned im boughtening
>>746053190they explicitly said "more than 10">game revolves around time/clocks>12 character for each notch of a clock>the 13th character is the invader character
>>746052416>>746052494god I fucking wish this was just open world battle royale ac6I'd buy a shitch for that
>>746035859Tenchu was cool, but Fromsoft had nothing to do with its actual conception and building, they just provided the capital. They own the rights now, but given their shitty engine, I'm not sure how good it would look and feel to play.
I for one hope that the customization on each character will not only be cosmetic and maybe also be an alt weapon and alt bloodsworn skills that we can swap in at will between matches.>>746019545>Baritonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz0ZCu8rLB8
>>746050180>literally begging anons to stop having funLulLmaoSnoygger cuck
>>746025864v>>746019929
>>746019271>Niawow literally jenna
>>746053286kek
>>746052094>>746052270Snoyggers are beyond raped and know fromsoft won't grovel to sony again.It's great
>>746053190>girl
>>746016523PVPVE is a completely futile genre. All it will ever boil down to is metafags and griefers.
>this thread genuinely shilling pvp sloppa>just because it's a switch 2 exclusive >any criticism push back is just sour grapes, PCsissies, snoy mad, etcYou niggers can't be this desperate right?
>>746019271For me it's the hedonistic Roman emperor everyone hates
>>746025864>Elden Ring is nicheyour fucking retarded
>>746053829Let tendies have their one game, they've waited years for this. We'll also finally get relief from so many Elden Ring seethe threads since they'll be able to play next week.
>>746052913>dumbed down versions of cod>literal retro gamesAnon, I...
>>746053829https://youtu.be/mWVSUGRsMks?t=61
>>746053829Years of gold face posting over Bloodborne mindbroke them so they have to pretend this PvP focused game is a huge deal so they can make a bunch of gold face memes back at people 10 years later.
>>746016523I don't know why anyone would be interested in this after they basically patched Nightreign twice & then let it die out. The game's not going to have support or extra content post-release which is basically the lifeblood of any online multi these days.
>>746019545https://youtu.be/4mbYMWAWSWo
>>746016523>Game releases>Other people get good at the game>You don'tWhat causes this phenomena?
>>746054251Personally I think it's nice having a simple multiplayer game that isn't a wannabe forever game live service FOMO nightmare. How about that?
>>746054032>>746054225It's genuinely fucking sad, id understand if it's the next big action adventure game but it's not, they can't even make fun of snoys with "we finally have Bloodborne 2" when this game is far from a Bloodborne game.
>>746054595Bloodborne is genuinely overrated as hell and I say this as a massive FromSoft fan and a PS4 owner.
>>746016523i mean thats the consequence of the internet. this is why classic and TBC wow are considered so GOATed because you COULDNT just metafag your way to the top. everyone was just having fun. blame modern internet cuz this wasnt the case for games like this in 2004-2009
>>746054562How's that working for Kirby Air Riders? I wonder if Duskbloods will have bots for multiplayer games too..
>>746054692Okay? It's still better than the pvp sloppa.
>>746054709>because you COULDNT just metafag your way to the topBut holy fuck do they try. Multiboxxing, poopsocking, you name it.>>746054823That's not a high bar to clear. PVP is for braindead normaltroons.
>>746054562I don't disagree, I was just stating facts. If you don't at least patch/balance from time to time players get bored and go elsewhere. From doesn't even do that bare minimum
>>746054713Well it worked when I was playing the game. Had a lot of fun. Played some games with /v/.
>>746054330This guy draws a cute Raven.
>>746016523Skill issue. I was not following any meta and won 4 times.
>>746055021>when I was playingTherein lies the problem. Without the constant updates, interest doesn't hold so those games have a shelf life which is bad for a game focused on online multiplayer like Duskbloods. Anyone that doesn't buy it day 1, can basically miss their window to enjoy the product. It's not evergreen, in fact even a year later it can be a terrible purchase.
game looks kinda fun and i have money but i'd rather not spend it on the switch
>>746016523>fortnite soulsThat'll be $70, goyim.
>>746017478>simplifying everything to tard mode levels is good actually
>>746055228Why are you talking about this game like it's an investment and like you've never played a multiplayer game beforeIf you want an 'evergreen game' you can play by yourself forever, go download a slot simulator and leave the people with brains alone
>>746055228I'm fine with that. I'm completely okay just messing around with a multiplayer game for a little while, getting my fun, and moving onto the next thing. These things don't have to last forever.
1v1v1 >>> 2v2
>>746055228By what fucking metric? I swear games as a service has rotted your brains. If they move enough copies to cover costs and if gamers feel they got their money's worth out of it then it's fine if it lasts 20 years or two seconds.Maybe they drip content, maybe they released a complete game and people go nuts for it for a month like all the other fomo and friendship that's currently making bank then never think about it again.Assume there's zero single player adaption and the servers go down a year from now, well then you don't buy it a year from now.How is any of that an issue in any way?
>>746055663I think people legitimately have more fun looking at steamchart player numbers than actually playing video games. That's how bad it's gotten.
>>746055663found the game dev against stop killing games
>>746056169I'm pro SKG you idiot that has nothing to do with what's being discussed.
>>746056315>Assume there's zero single player adaption and the servers go down a year from now, well then you don't buy it a year from now.>How is any of that an issue in any way????
>>746056369Yes?I would advise you to not buy a dead game.What are you arguing?
>>746055448>fortnite soulsYeah seems fun.
>>746055663Nah this is cope man. More maps, more characters, balance, all of this shit is just normal in 2026. If the whole fucking game is online and doesn't get regularly updated it has a shelf life. Even if 400 brazilians still play it 4 years later it isn't the same."b-but" I played Battlefield and CS growing up. CS had community servers and maps, BF had map packs and shit with updates. Even back then this was the norm and if it wasnt it's because in a year or two halo 2 would come out, or gears of war 2 etc. They either supported it long term or the turn over between games was short enough to warrant little post launch support. I'm a gramps too bud oh and another thing the games with high turn over had substantial non pvp content to support it, gears halo have campaigns. BF the focus was pvp so they had updates and map packs so yes it is a valid concern how much post launch support the game receives.
>>746056459it was a jab at you saying the server going down in a year after taking the money from the players that gave them money up front and running away with it. it's a very pro corporate view point that goes against what a player would typically want from his games, which is why i made the jab. wild to see you claim to be for skg despite having a point of view antithetical to it though.
>>746056169SKG's completely correct and I think every single online game should have their server binaries distributed at end-of-life for free. But the sad truth of it is that even if that happens, that doesn't mean you can ever experience what those games actually were. It should be "playable" for preservation, but I personally do not play games where I can only play in a match full of discord trannies two weekends out of the year.
>>746054595>>746054225>>746053829Bloodwhat?
>>746056802Brother it is a hypothetical discussion. I do not have insider information that the servers are for sure going down in a year. That post was to combat anons stance that it would be a bad buy a year from now when the game is dead and I was highlighting that you just don't buy dead/dieing things in the first place.I would advise you not buy Marathon right now.Would I prefer they develop a single player out? Yes. Do I know if they're going to do that? No. Plus it'd be really gay to replay to anon "lol they'll just make it run offline idiot!" That'd just be stupid to say.>>746056798It's objectively not normal. How much Fomo has been released, been successful, and didn't have droves of people bitching and moaning that they somehow regretted their time when the game was alive? Literally zero. All the complaints are from buying the game to play with friends only for the friends to stop playing. Nothing to do with the games content or when you jumped in, but rather, what state your friends were at with the game.I myself have been burned in such a way but I also had real good times playing among us and lethal company.Also those games are still getting updated. I don't play it anymore but the people that do I'm sure are appreciative.The entire point is, no matter what other trappings there are only one thing mattersFor the company: it's making enough sales to cover development costs and make a profit For consumers: it is to get equal, but hopefully greater, enjoyment per dollar spent.This is ignoring weird avenues of enjoyment I, personality, can never understand like skin collecting, achievement hunting, topping leaderboards ect. How you define enjoyment and value are subjective.People are still playing fortnight and Warframe for instance. I couldn't tell you why. I just hope they're having fun
I'm too ancient and dogshit at games to be playing coop/pvp stuff anymore.
>>746056798All games have a shelf life. And not every game needs to go on forever.The truth about updates is that it's not about getting new players in, it's about getting people that already bought in to stay in. The whole live service thing is built to cater to whales. But the idea that every multiplayer purchase has to be a lifestyle game is part of why multiplayer games nowadays feel so predatory.Old PC games were different because they were legitimately kept alive by their communities and by modders. But when developers are expected to keep the content pipeline going on a game, it changes both the audience for the game and the developer. That sucks.I think it's fine to have a game like Chromehounds. Super niche game, 360 exclusive, lasted a grand total of 3.5 years before the servers went offline, but the online playerbase was probably pretty dead after maybe a year. But still, to the people who played it, it's one of the best and most memorable experiences.
>>746025864HAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
>>746057416>Brother it is a hypothetical discussion. I do not have insider information that the servers are for sure going down in a year. anon, no one thinks you're actually a game dev...>just don't buy dead/dieing things in the first place.i'll be a bit serious right now, that's on the same level as "just don't fall for the scam". the problem is that they are selling a dead/dying product in that scenario. the average consumer isn't going to know the status of every game, especially if they're buying a game as a gift. the scammed don't realize they're falling for a scam in the first place.this entire issue about skg ties back to the mw2 dedicated servers though, you can go hop on pre mw2 pc games and still find matches because players host their own servers, shit there's even ps3 games that are still playable online right now almost 20 years later. corporations owning the servers is one of the ultimate evils in gaming and has had disastrous impacts(such as the mass censorship because you must do/say what the devs allow you to do/say instead of making your own server with your own rules).
yeah souls was niche but it blew up around 2013-2014 and has been normie ever since. it's the main reason all new from games are shit honestly.
>>746058995NTA but I think you're missing the point. This isn't about whether or not the servers will be up. The original point was that because FROM isn't going to be churning out live service slop updates on a regular basis, the ADHD playerbase will dwindle and die long before the servers are taken offline.
How actually PVP focused is duskbloods? Is it really mainly a battle royale type game?
>>746059634In some sense it is entirely PvP because you are always competing with every other player for virtues/victory points. It's like a board game where you're not always directly fighting each other but you're always competing. Even when you're co-oping, you're still competing.
>>746059634About 50/50 for the map we got, you can technically avoid it but you'll miss out on points and probably get culled if you stay pure PvE. The ending round was a 1v1v1 PvP match with the remaining 3 players but at release there will be PvE alternatives apparently.The other anon that replied to you is right though, technically the entire game is 1 big competition. 2 players get removed after the second round and 3 players get removed after the third round. You get pushed out of the game if you don't farm more points than other players so you're on a timer rushing against everyone else.
>>746058995It's not so much as they're selling a dieing product as you are buying a dieing product. It's a small distinction but unfortunately an important one. They intended the game to last. In fact many games that SKG have a problem with have built in MTX to be an evergreen game it just didn't pan out.Again this SHOULD be an easy fix with dedicated server infrastructure. At least when it comes to the greater SKG issue. After all the company also wins as they can keep selling the game well after their support has ended. Unfortunately they're all retarded and are so myopic they're only looking for the pump and dump whales and all other sales might as well not exist.So you got to plan for support ending, you as a consumer have to be aware of if the game has critical online features or no, and if it does, have to be paranoid about the games current health if only to defend your own capital. I'd love to say oh don't think about it at all there's an EOL plan but I'm cynical.That said to kinda wrap back to my argument against anon, even if you buy a game as it's "dieing" hell, even in the end of service window, depending on what you value and enjoy there's a possibility that you get what you feel is your money's worth even in such a situation. That's how I have both opinions. I want an EOL and support SKG to get these fucks to be less short sighted, I also expect no changing from trends even as it harms both producer and consumer, and I also think people can find value from weird angles and squeeze more enjoyment than I can out of situations I cannot fathom. I'd advise against it. I'd describe skin buyers as "having fun wrong" but ultimately I will never be able to convince them they didn't have fun and enjoy their purchase.Lead a horse to water situation
>>746051584Not true I’ve been hearing really negative things on Reddit like r/fromsoftware. Most hardcore gamers really dislike PvP.
>>746059634You can make it team based as one of the modes basically splits players into teams of 2 for the whole game.
>>746016975lol nah
>>746016975Not only is it random, but if everyone tries to do the same shit, they'll just end up sabotaging each other.
>>746053487Huh, it really is
>>746023736>Sony was right to pass on this game
>>746060182Reddit tourists are not hardcore. They're retard normies who jumped on with Elden Ring. In fact the biggest sign of a hardcore fan and oldfag is their take on PvP
>>746063308Trvke
I might bother with ranked in this game, I do like getting sword virtue. But I still just want to fight the phase IV raid bosses that apparently exist. The greater trespassers were alright design wise, their movesets weren't that complex which makes sense because they're there to be killed fairly quickly but they still felt like not much of anything with all the utility characters have. Like if I fought them in ER or even DS3, it'd be basically the same. But I hope these raid bosses make me go>I'm happy I'm fighting these with others as an agile superhuman
>>746064043I'm kind of happy with the toned down bosses. They can have a few tricky attacks, but I'm so tired of multi-phase bossfights with incredibly stupid-looking rollcatch attack animations and gigantic awkward windups that make no physical sense.I felt like Duskbloods had better animations than anything I've seen from FROM in these games for a long time, because they weren't trying to do those stupid rote memory patterns.
>>746063308the oldfags are getting old. can they keep up with kids with how fast paced duskbloods is?
>>746025864>They're pretty fucking nicheWhat is this, 2009?
>>746064220oh don't worry the final round boss fights will be that.
>>746064379>Be me>5k+ hours in the series>1.5k of them in Nightreign [the fastest one]I'm doing fine you fucking lobotomized broccoli nigger.
Anyone complaining about the lack of enemy variety didn't play the game
>>746064573Oh joy. Let's see.
>>746064961What makes you say that?
>>746065182Trash mobs are there to be farmed, and encountering a different enemy every 5 steps isn't going to improve your experience in any way. It's like complaining about enemy variety in League of Legends.
>>746064763AC6 would be the better game to have practiced for the range and verticality.
>>746065372I guess. I wouldn't mind more interactive creep camps in say, Deadlock though.
>>746065372Retards man. They're just quoting what other people they respect said about other games.
>>746065420I have the AC6 plat amigo
>>746065678Show those whippersnappers who the boss of the gym is, gramps.
>>746065501It's a valid complaint in normal soulslikes, but here it makes zero sense. The game has a small map with a few different regions that have their own enemy types lurking, and having a lot more would look jarring. It's more than enough as is.
>>746065823>It's a valid complaint in normal soulslikesEh, even then that's usually a pseud complaint that isn't well backed and if you sit the fuck down and actually tally shit up, the variety is fine. Take Dark Souls 2 for example:>TOO MANY KNIGHTS, ENEMY VARIETY LACKINGIs a common complaint for the boss roster. But if you look into the roster you'll see it has tons of variety and cool shit. Also if you look at Dark Souls 1, O&S and Artorias were widely considered "peak" fights so DaS2 having more of that is simply logical. The "enemy variety" complaint is usually just "I didn't like them enough" in most cases where it's levied at a game. >>746065765I'm tired boss.
>>746064961They're right in regards to the trespassers and the great foes or w/e the same few reskins of enemies that were mini bosses are, I forget the term the survey used. But with 3 maps, the variety will probably be spread out.I was pretty sick of doing that same map over and over again by the time the test was over but if I only had to see it 33% of the time it wouldn't be as bad.
you all know that these levels were built for the test and will not be in the final game?
Petres bros, we're the best.
i really hope this game flops, souls pvp is absolutely horrible
>>746066404>George Washington turns into a lizard bravo vince
>>746066404his head should turn into a dino when he criticals.
>Look inside 'network test'>Bunch of empty spaces because majority of the content is cut out, probably months old build at this point with only a handful of sigils, kin, heroes, and only one map with only 4-5 bosses in it. Even tutorial cuts in middle.>"Not enough content"Did you all think that Gladius was the only boss in Nightreign too, and Limgrave was the only area?
I zorked too hard.
>>746067470I wonder if Kin will have specific relationships with certain bloodsworn.
>>746067517Maybe but probably not. Anyways Zorks genocided Gargoyle's homeland
>>746067570Zorklings seems to have killed both Layla's and also the gargoyle people then?Good one from Mitsubishi. The guy in the scary diving suit is the genocidal one
>>746067470what happened
>>746067701Anon, Layla and Gargoyle are from the same place. Pretty sure she's rather Egypt coded
Thoughts on Blood Drenched Volwaard?
>>746069934berserk armor guts is so cool
>>746016523>i get mad when people play more than me and I can't enjoy a game if I'm not winninghave you considered playing stardew valley or animal crossing on your nintendo machine?
>>746019829Tendies are like this. I like nintendo consoles for their first party games generally, and while I'm glad tendies are getting some real souls stuff to finally try out they will always be like this. Overall the switch2 has been a massive disappointment as I'd rather play shit on a handheld PC so it's niche is no longer special and it still performs like shit and we've had like literally 5 first party games and a manual so far. And it has all sucked except DK, which was fun throughout but low challenge and never capitalized on it's best ideas. But duskbloods was a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to it.
>>746069934Was he in the CNT?
>>746016523>>game is riddled with metafags all following some youtube videowelcome to post 2010 gaming
>>746071020Nah but the intro sequence ends right before you jump down to the burning forest you clearly see it shows up in.
Oh this game came out finally. What actually is it? I haven't seen anything since the launch trailer that told us fuck all what the damn thing is supposed to be.
>saaarrs, DO NOT REDEEM this game, you bloody benchods!Snoyjeets cannot cope with never getting to play Bloodborne 2.
>>746071101Huh. I guess he's a boss in Albert's campaign.>>746071181Not the full game, just a network test which ended yesterday.
>>746023894almost a swastika? Go all the way or go home, faggot. Jesus. In every single thread pretending to be on whatever side will get you the most (you)s. You are insufferable.
NGL the best part of duskbloods and nightreign is fromsoft making specific characters.I like the whole make your character and RPG thing, but it just allowed them to tell more stories with your character on the front. I think Sekiro kind of did it as well but you had a few blank slate moments.It could be fun to see it in the future, especially with some non-rpg action games like Sekiro.
>>746072303>I like playing as the fag that says vague cryptic shit in souls gamesWhy?
>>746072448From leaves a lot of things to interpertation and deliberately gives a lot of holes, even hiding information that was previously available but the writing is just good. I like it.The cucks who just go through the whole game without reading 3 sentences worth of item descriptions give it a bad rep that makes the story seem impossible to grasp until youtube man comes out and spoonfeeds it to them.Items will say shit like > Brungle town was inhabited by Bubo tribe, and they got killed by sorcerers and people will still say "Man this shit so cryptic"
>>746072303What's the kino lore reason he has to wear pajamas?
>>746073902I don't know, but I think you guys are missing the even funnier thing.This guy is part of a group. If his drip of "Pajama + bucket" is because he is a member, it means there is a whole group of people just running around like this.From isn't as serious as people make it seem. Yall forget about miniature ranni and the naked fatso with boots that rollspams with a hammer in bloodborne?
>>746072303I like what Nightreign did with characters also having unique moves or bonuses with specific weapon types (like Ironeye having an exclusive bow combo). I think they could lean into it even with Souls-style character customisation if classes gave you those kinds of bonuses instead of just being starting stats and gear.
>>746072303Really? I really enjoy the character customization.
>>746074085Wylder is so fucking fun with his unique greatsword moves and the grapple
>>746074132Me too but you lose out on all the coolshit you can do by losing it. Its an tradeoff. Not just for gameplay but for story again, I think it is better to have it be a part of some action game like sekiro
>>746028115this is a weird thing to be wrong about. I'm pretty disappointed in the switch2 but like. you are just objectively wrong and you know it. Even if you stopped switch2 sales today and sliced them down to relative to global population it has still sold 20x the virtual boy and almost double the wii u.Did you ask chatgpt to be retarded for you, but forgot to say "don't make any mistakes" or something?
>>746028448>>746028115>>746031982>>746023894>>746032202>>746032920>>746033005can both of you namefag so I can filter you
>>746036463I get where you are coming from on nightrain and I'm not even a fromsoft pvper generally because the experience is usually pretty clunky but I had a fucking stellar time with duskbloods. Unlike nightpain you can explore at your liesure and head to the objective point whenever you want, or never. They don't make fortnite fire close in on you unless you enter and leave the objective area and you aren't exactly pushed to go so fast you can't even stand to look at things, which NEVER WORE OFF IN SOME 60+ HOURS OF NIGHT TRAIN. I can see how if you don't like pvp at all duskbloods might really suck for you, but I think there is a really good mix just as it is now from what we saw, and they said more pve is in the pipeline as well. So unlike nightclam which was the laziest asset flip that ignored the absolute best parts of elden ring to give us a shitty pve fortnite bossrush game, duskbloods does seem like it's using core fromsoft mechanics, cut to the quick in interesting, speedy fun rounds. But I would probably think differently if I liked both games, or liked neither. Maybe it'll grow on you after release.I do hope they support it long term, ideally TF2 style. It'll be sad if they give up after like a year. I miss TF2 and this is the first multiplayer game I've played in more than a decade that felt like the same kind of fun I had in TF2.
>>746038174Honestly, good strategy on their part. Zork is ass at 1v1, so take the odd one out and make it a mirror match.
>>746052416ok clearly I need to fucking check out armored core
>>746016523I just need any of these:>be able to be a pure gunslinger>be able to wield a huge scythe>be able to be a fist fighterAnd you got me.
>>746060182> Most hardcore gamers really dislike PvP.filthy casual. Other men are the most difficult fights you will encounter because unlike you, they improve with time.
I'm too used to being a smelly rollfag and always forgot I had a shield.
>>746075652You and me both. The guard counter is also really good but I never got into the habit of using it.
>>746075249AC6 was awesome but I can never go back to the PvP because of the shitty netcode.
>>746075921ugh that's how I felt about elden ring. I didn't hate the pvp in previous games but it was ass and in elden ring it was still somehow ass. Don't like having a bunch of hits land on me half a second later, don't like having to use different timing for pvp. I learned to fucking parry in THIS GAME, it should work THE SAME WAY.
>>746076228I was shocked that it seemed like they finally got their shit together for this game. That's part of why I had fun, I was expecting the absolute worst.
>>746075652This is like the one fromsoft game where the shield is actually good kek
>>746077430They used to be great. All the way back in like DaS.
>>746077526like maybe the crest shield and only after the dlc came out when you wanted something that could eat the dlc magic projectiles which is already an edge case scenario other than right around the time the DLC came out and everyone was using dark bead and pursuers
>>746075417those are completely reasonable requests and i hope you get all three in the final game anon.
>>746077597As a non minmaxxer who just wanted to be a strong knight playing the game blind it was perfectly serviceable, same with Des. Then das2 onward kinda wasn't the same anymore
>>746077430nightreign guardian is really good
>>746078176jej
>>746077430they are always really good. In pretty much all games parrying is an absolute champion and an endaround for any fight you are struggling with, just figure out the parry timing and you're done.
>>746078298He is, people are just retarded and don't realize his guard boost and stamina but make him REALLY GOOD for power stance and two handing and still being able to block as opposed to just sticking with great shields.His primary power sucks and his ult is only good for rez is where he falls behind.Even then I like him more than scholar
>>746078298yeah. both in terms of effectiveness and in terms of fun actually using the shield instead of simply holding l1
>>746078420his primary power sucks? with the relics, you can boost allies by a good amount and stun lock a lot of enemies, or at least stagger them on command. The relic that makes it last longer is so good
>>746050332Reuse is good
>>746016523I'll just wait for their next single player game.
>>746028115>>746028448>>746029934youre trying way too hard, you need to lurk way the fuck more and grow up first, holy shit
>>746028115>Bananza was an asset flipYou don't know what that term means. Just say you're assblasted by Nintendo dominating in sales.
>>746066520He looks more like Obama
>>746081286do you know only one person with skin color darker than your average irish person
>>746072303Aphantasia at work.
>>746017107No one here is acting defensive. Stop making up shit to be mad at.
>>746019271Finally, some real representation.
>>746072303agreed. i love making characters from scratch and autistically making their own lore, but i really do want fromsoft to expand on "premade" playable characters like what they did in nightreign. i hope their next, big single player game will feature playable characters with their own movesets and abilities (like in nightreign), while still having the archetypal wretch starter class that has no backstory
>>746019271>baritone>expects some bard>guy fucking does wrestling moves
>>746079486It's okay in PVE but not really bosses. Anything non human doesn't get staggered and it's damage is super low. You really don't need to clear groups often so that's why it sucks.When it works it's awesome, don't get me wrong, it's just good at something you don't really fight and useless against most of the things that are a problem
>>746019271>the Black Wolf of Mars (but it's spelled Black Wulf of Mors because that's cooler)>one eye>special power dwells within its bloodline>wants revenge for its parentsThis reads like some edgy OC
>>746050985I never said that, maybe try reading you fucking illiterate retard, then use that newfound ability to read and try goling to school again. Dont speak to me you faggot retarded retard
>/v/ loves hero-based PvP shooters nowHypocrites
>>746083998Just switchfags desperate for validation over finally getting a fromsoft exclusive despite being multiplayer only slop.
>>746019271>both his body and mind are so grotesque his mere presence draws the ire of all around himlmao he truly is oppressed leftie representation
>>746016523>game is riddled with metafags all following some youtube video>every map is routed and optimisedmake weapons random ( but you keep the incremental upgrades you fought for during the previous games ) and make the interest points with the rewards within on the map also random. There fixed it.
>>746023103I use it with those Arab looking curved swords, also the backflip attack.
>>746017115What the fuck, you can manually aim?
>>746019271>RIGHTEOUS MASTER! WHEN IS SING, TIS' FOR YOU!
>>746017115ctf_2cathedrallaugh at my jokePLEASE
>>746085161I grinned.
>>746085269Finally.
>>746038563i've been 9999 for most of DoN's existence and i've always preferred going straight to invader PoIs either immediately after the landing camp or after the first PoI.
>>746086093>>746038563Evergaol right out of the gate is a waste time, invader poi are always the best thing you could doGosh just talking about Nightreign makes me want to play it again, I hope the gameplay loop of release duskbloods is at least half as fun
>>746086565Gaols made sense before DoN when invaders weren't a guaranteed thing. They're definitely not worth it in DoN though.
>>746075438Why aren't you in military fighting other men then?
>>746086741>>746086565How cucked am I if I play Nightreign without The Forsaken Hollows? It's kind of what made me fall out of the game. It doesn't quite look worth it to me, and yet when I boot up the game without it, I close the game because it feels incomplete without it.
>>746017115this bitch its literally the corpse version of widowmaker KEK
>>746020119the shields for character its retarded instead of everyone using the red blood shield and get upgrades for that
>>746078176when it doesnt fight grapplers like the big mouth dragon or libra madness effects
>>746073902he is a lunatic
>>746082062You're Roman?
>>746083998It's not a shooter
>>746078420the only good guardian builds are hp maxxing with the hp based guard counter boost and ultmaxxing so you can make the people actually doing damage invincible. he's not useless, but the vast majority of players play him wrong and make the other 2 players do all the heavy lifting.
>>746090285That'd be boring. And the red blood shield looks dumb.
>>746019271>thought Marlowe was going to suck>won my first match with himThat wolf is shit though, no denying that.
>>746034337It's bothThey literally said in the test t&cs that feedback will be used to retool and balance the game
>>746034337Did you fill out the survey? Because they really want to know about how people feel about gameplay stuff. To the point where there's individual ratings for like every character and summon.
Inbreeding gives you 4% more speed per generation
>>746095221The Habsburgs got so fast they eventually phased out of this dimension.
>>746016523It's a multiplayer game, you're going to get metafags.
>>746095449habsburgs were dwemers kek
>what's your special weapons?>SMG
>>746095523They could lean into the random elements really hard, or repelling invaders and fighting other bosses could be so rewarding as to be meta, and and then the focus would basically be PvE. Normally I don't like multiplayer games with tons of RNG, but I do think that they should basically be treating this as a party game.
>>746095720I don't understand what is going on with the animation for the SMG. Whenever you fire it, he sort of puts the saber into the slide for no reason?
>>746017115they made an actual sniper class???holy shit if they don't nerf it into the ground the game is done in a week
>>746096145Rule of thumb is that if you get a sniper layla in the last 3 person free for all, you should team up with the other guy to kill her because she's too good in a 1v1.
>>746096463she's not good in a 1v1 she's broken in a 2v1
>>746096708Everything is technically a 2v2 if you count kins which any sane player targets first to turn the scenario into a 2v1.
>>746096778a 2v1 with another player. layla being there means you can't run, if the other player is competent at melee you lose every time. there's legit nothing you can do when layla is sniping you between dodges.
>>746096708She's fine in 1-vs-1, just not the best.>>746096778Also this. Kins are practically made to counter your character's weaknesses.Once you can consistently choose which Kin you want in the full game, then it'll become even less of a problem.
>>746096967I think she's the best. You just never stop kiting and kin don't help because she can shoot them to death from across the map.
>>746016523>aka every competitive game ever
>>746095720They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong.
>>746067893Wouldn't the whole half petrified snake lady be greek coded
>>746089937It makes DoN harder cause people are still a bit worse at the new map. But the content is good.
>>746016523I miss it :(
>>746097960why did you miss it?
>>746084681>throws molotovLater fatty
>>746089937The extra nightlords are as good as you would expect. Soundtrack is top tier, including the new map. The two new characters are pretty fun too, scholar having a particularly unique playstyle. It's just 15 fucking bucks dude. If you enjoy nightreign in the first place just go ahead.
>>746098159normal balancers and greg are great, ed balancers is a pure dice roll if the worm decides to wiggle in your direction.
>>746019694>Casuals imply no metafagging and more funYou can't be serious
I'm still thinking about zorks jump dash attack it was too fun, also only in my last 1v1v1 people were actually keeping up their shield and using triple jumps and stuff. I think at high level this game will be really fun to watch especially since it doesn't have cheaters.
>>746098343Ed balancers is a fantastic boss fight, arguably one of Fromsoft's best DoN ed balancers is just pure agony
>>746098861your gameplay looks familiar, did you fight an albert that sniped your stars in the last round by chance
>>746099086That's not mine sorry. I took that off twitter. I don't have a capture card.
>>746097223She's not a Gorgon thoughGreeks ruled Egypt for centuries.
>>746099174ok, I think I had a match with that guy and we spent the entire match at each other's throats and it was the most fun I had during the test. lost in the grail match, but he's really good.
>>746098001Because it was fun
>>746099332thought you meant you missed the chance to play it
>>746098618Casuals say the darndest things.
>>746095221Given they're vampires and stuff they have more resources for better breeding.
>>746098861The shorthop airdash heavy is so good on every character. Now sure how to counter it. Howl to parry maybe?
>>746016807This is a stupid point even if granted because niche games have the most sweats of any game
>>746102218Parry or shoot them. Airdash has no iframes as far as I an tell.
>>746025864
>>746016523Turn a souls game into normalfag slop.
>>746103636>>746103636>Turn a souls game into normalfag slop.ds1 was 15 years ago anon
>>746099332How is it fun if they remove the heart of a fucking souls game and turn a rpg into pvp normalfag slop. Enjoy your pvp slop while you can one's that server go down the game is fucking dead.
>once the server goes downnobody tell him
>>746103915I been playing souls games since demon souls on the ps3.
>>746104269demon souls wasnt played by normalfags tho
>Remnants of what might have been Bloodborne 2 I guess>Stuck on some lame PVP gameIt hurts.
I no longer have switch 2 fomo lol
Shouldn't have made this shit on a fuckass tablet.
>>746105471>thought about buying a switch 2 in the future >based formsoft convinces me not toshove your pvp battle royale shit up your arse
>>746104130Threads already on autosage and all of the seething comes out. What gives?
>>746106057OoT Remake is the last straw for my Switch 2. If it's a piece of shit then I'm done.
>>746087916I was. Discharged as it was unsporting and offered me nothing and wars singlehandedly ended by my hand made everyone else feel bad.
