Is pre-nerf Balteus the most powerful boss in gaming history? Who can stop him?
Basic math and farming for some parts can stop him.
>>746017647I still haven't played Armored Core 6 yet. I'm waiting for a first person VR mod
>>746017647Neo Granzon solos Armored Core
Armored Core 7 fucking when, enough with the shitty multiplayer games MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>746017647Man, I remember playing this on launch. He shat on me for so long it eventually reached the point where the fight became basically scripted to me, I could tell what he was gonna do based on my inputs etc, as if I was a speedtrannie.
>>746018041Baby's first arcade-like experience.Not even that, since there you would need to replay the entire stage too
I think people that criticise the nerf are missing the point. It's not that the boss was too difficult, it's that the boss was too difficult at that point in time. The last bosses in this game are much harder than pre-nerf Balteus. Pre-nerf Balteus was a difficulty spike in an otherwise smooth difficulty curve. Anyone who replayed the game pre-nerf would have not have had any issues with this fight because of all the skill gained throughout the playthrough.
I played full NACHTREIHER when the game launched so I never understood you retards getting hit by his missiles.
>>746018642There's nothing wrong with difficulty spikes
I beat that thing pre-nerf and I'm not very good at video games, so I don't think so.
ARQUEBUS BALTEUS is the best From boss.
>>746018717If the spike raises the baseline for the rest of the game, sure.If it's one hard boss followed by many hours of stuff that's easier, it feels off and clearly just the devs fucking up balance.
>>746017647Was he supposed to be difficult? I beat him with double shotgun and getting closer when he spammed the rocketsHad more problems with the tutorial helicopter
>>746017647Nah pre nerf radhan (both instances) was much harder.
>>746018781wow that looks fucking dumb
>>746018642beating him within the first few days after release was one of the best gaming experiences I've had in recent years. He was hard sure but it was damn satisfying.
>>746017647I'm a complete shitter and I beat him in five or six tries, so no. IIRC it even literally tells you which sword to use to pop his bubble effectively
>>746018717NTA but agreed. I think the only time they are a problem is if they're, say, in the middle of the game and then the game never gets that hard again, which isn't an issue in Armored Core 6 as it gets even harder towards the proper end any way.Also my favourite difficulty spike ever is Stellar Blade: you get some skills that you can basically spam to stunlock enemies and bosses through a large chunk of the game. Then you get to the penultimate boss (Raven) and she will start dodging/parrying those so you have to play the game properly. I thought it was hilarious
>>746017647the basic pulse blade you start with stops him
>>746018642>>746018717I agree with the right, disagree with the left. Balteus case was the left. The content after him was easier so there was really no point in testing the player like that.Nerfing Radahn, on the other hand, was complete bullshit
>>746019039ac6 in general has piss poor difficulty pacing and most of the game is extremely easy
>>746018929Raven on Hard was an amazing boss fight. Used my entire arsenal against her. Not a single move went unused. Fantastic game.
>>746018781no that would be 9ball Seraph
If you didn't beat pre-patch Balteus you did not by any stretch of the imagination beat the game
>>746017647Me. I stopped him, pre nerf.>>746017701>He had to farm
>>746017647No I beat this whole game while /v kept making threads about how hard it was.Sekiro was harder. I think Armored Core is way more fun though.
Well fuck. I got this game yesterday, gonna start it later.How bad is the nerf?
>>746020073He fires fewer missiles and they track you a bit worse.Now that doesn't sound like a lot but Balteus 1's entire schtick is that he fires a fuckload of missiles.He'll still fuck you up if you're retarded, but he used to demand a bit more from you.
>>746020162So not that bad of a nerf then, thanks. I hate this type of shit from devs.
>>746018642They only nerfed his missiles so the constant chip damage from grazing them isn't as much of an issues, his shotgun "fuck you" move is still strong.
was ac6 the last time when /v/ actually played game?
>>746020371you can probably get a patch to restore pre nerf balteus if you want
>>7460176472 unnerfed zimmerman stopped him just fine
>>746020371It is more substantial then it seems when you are on a first playthrough as you have limited parts and the known cheese parts don't come until you beat the C-Spider.
>>746020724NACHT + ALULA is free against Balteus. The only people who struggled were heavy autists
wtf? you were supposed to beat this guy?it seemed impossible to beat so I just thought it was the end of the game
>>746020073Don't worry, his flaming fart hitbox is still bullshit.
>>746020660you get the zimmers way after you beat balteus nogames
>>746020883just fly over it
>>746017647>you can only beat it with one kind of build>if you don't have the right pieces, you are fucked>with the right pieces, it's a very hard battle>for a boss 2-3h into the main game.It was so hilariously bad that it must have been an oversight
I've beaten almost all prenerf bosses Katsuie Shibata in Nioh 2, Radahn Elden Ring DLC, except for that guy in Lies of P Puppet King i think? I heard they nerfed him so hard he lost like 40% health lol
Is there a mod for AC6 that replaces your bipedal mech with a Tank, VTOL or something similar?Humanoid walkers are dumb and immersion breaking (unless they're portrayed as wasteful, fragile and ineffective shitbricks).Just look at some images from the thread and tell me that any of them look like they wouldn't fall over the moment their plot armor was taken away.And putting tracks on said humanoid mechs looks super retarded, literal cripple bot look. At least if you could remove the torso it would look better, but that's not allowed.
>>746018642This. I had much more trouble with the jumping spider. Balteus took like 10 minutes, meanwhile I had lengthy talks with my friends where I had to explain that whatever their experience with the spider was, that thing was not playing fair with me. Even streamed it to prove it. Whatever I was doing was triggering some fucking bullshit AI stuff
>>746018834radhan was infinitely easier to cheese tho. to beat balteus you actually had to learn how to dodge
>>746020960>>you can only beat it with one kind of buildIncorrect. Slow mechs could still deal with pre-nerf balteus.
>>746017647>Fromshit da hardest Try beating any arcade game first fromtroon
>>746023760Arcade games were hard because of bad controls and pixel perfect bullshit.
This game would have been way better if everything other than the bosses wasn't so piss easy that it sent me to sleep
>>746024432> if everything other than the bosses wasn't so piss easy that it sent me to sleepeven the bonewheels?
>>746017647he was easy I just used energy weapons/sword to destroy the shield and then blasted him with heavy shoulder weaps.
>>746021507spider was hard until I switched to quad ped and just hovered over him spamming explosives.
pre-nerf
The nerf amounted to 10% reduced tracking on the missles and 5 extra seconds between his shields recharging.It's literally a nothingburger, people just sucked bad at the game back then, especially since the early missions are way too easy.
That red bitch in the lake was way worse.
>>746018834Radahn HP nerf was reversed 1 week after that patch that nerfed him. Right now he's pretty much identical to how he was at launch, except some fixes that prevent him from falling into the sea.
>>746025304Yeah but that bitch in the lake does that back and forth tempo so outside the (now patched) attack that isn't shown a warning for it, she is largelya boss you wait for.
Does this obsession of "you didn't beat prenerf X or Y" also take into consideratiion the 10-20 easymode weapons that get nerfed hard making the overall game harder to cheese?Take Flame of Redmanes, it's posture damage got nerfed by 60% since you could spam 3 casts in 3 seconds and posturebreak anything in a wide area in front of you and critspam.By your logic anyone that beat the game before that patch, didn't really beat the game.Like if you read all the balance changes of the first year of ER or AC6 you'll see 90% player nerfs and 10% enemy nerfs.
>>746017647I beat him with with a fucking starter saber and some very slow as fuck kick with a bit of dodging in between. He wasn't anymore harder than the fucking spider or the red aids.
>>746017647What's the point of making AC threads if clearly fromslop is more interested in making online only fartnite sloppa? Investors aren't interested by it.
>>746017647Not listening to the internet.>use bubble guns bro>go heavy broOnce I swapped to a light AC so I could actually dodge and used real guns rather than shit that runs out of ammo in an instant he became easy. /v/ is just shit at videogames.
The stagger mechanic is the single worst part of this game
>>746019039I agree with your point but Balteus was not an example of this at all. He was perfectly fine.
>>746025912None of those easy mode weapons are available that early in the game in AC6. as for radahn yeah he was cheesable with the frost stomp plus perfume crap. but the fact that people chose to do that speaks volumes of the level of challenge pre nerf radahn had.
>>746017720Shining Gundam KWABS both
>>746026184>still seething about posturebarsIts not like it's a sekiro deathblow that instantkills them.You just get a 2 second window where you do x2 damage with your next shot and it barely chnges the game.You can totally cuck yourself by spamming all your best weapons to get the posture break only to have them all on reload while the boss is staggered.
>>746026210Radahn is just badly designed. You CAN cheese him with numerous builds etc. but outside of that its a boring slog that you cant really even force your turn. Fromsoft keeps making the bossfights the centre focus when theyre becoming increasingly shit. The exploration IS the game and is why dark souls 1 was so successful and why Elden Ring is good until after you burn the tree.
>>746017647I know a couple guys, twins, named haldeman who stopped him.
>>746026184Stagger the boss with last salvo, by the time i reload the boss dodges and restarted stagger bar. I will just go back to AC 2 and 3.
>>746026346Idk when I went to S rank the game using needle shoulders and laser pistols made most stuff really easy as the needles would melt posture OR do massive damage and the laser pistols never had to reload and had plenty of ammo. You never couldnt take advantage of it outside of it occurring in weird positions.
>>746026210Are you talking about Caelid Radahn? Because he was tough and his combos required good spacing but the real problem was players still having 20 vigor at ~RL80.
>>746018781>this is a 10/10 according to fromdrones
>>746026376He’s kinda fun with the Sekiro parry.
>>746018781>>746017647These power toilets were too powerful at launch
>>746021270Is there a mod that takes the Armored Core out of Armored Core 6?
>>746018240AC6 really would be a much better game if there were no boss checkpoints. The stages are already only a few minutes long each, it wouldn't have been a big deal to just make people replay the stage and it would have made the boss encounters much more tense.
>>746017647Current snailtaeus is more annoying and I think baltaeus was one of my easier fights on my first run.
>>746026828I would've just uninstalled the game after a few attempts instead of a dozen
>>746026991And you'd reinstall and come back for more the next day because the game is just that good.
>>746021270Portraying a humanoid walker as a wasteful brick is far more immersion breaking since why would they be built in the first place? You have to read mecha on a symbolic level. AC6 knows it's absurdly cool, unlike most sci fi mil shit.
>>746027061actually I never touched this again after dying a bunch to Balteus
>>746027061Game is dumb, recursive loops doesnt make the story deep, weapon selection is pure CBT, and the arena system is super faggy in this one.
>>746027120You are missing out on the most unbridled genuine gaming kino released this decade.
>>746027224From the developers of.
>>746027224at the time I genuinely thought you were supposed to die to Balteus and just thought it was the end of the gamethe game was pretty meh overall so I don't think I'll ever pick it back up
>>746017647That shit was easy as fuck. Fucking heicopter tutorial filter 2.0 for soulsniggers who thought they were good at games. 1.0 Ibis was actual fucking bullshit and the only actual challenge in baby core 6: retard soulsgroid edition.
>>746026828They should just snapshot your resources at boss checkpoints instead of giving you a supply sherpa, would leave the attrition-based resource management from early AC without wasting your time against bosses with movesets to memorize. Couldn't be that hard to mod it in.
>>746027061It is literally the 3rd worst game in a like 14 game series.
>>746027627>obvious flailing area of effect attack is actually an area of effect attackWOOOOOOOOOOW, I thought you had to roll each of her 200 sword swings individually.
>>746017647not even the most difficult boss in AChave you faggots even played Last Raven?
>>746027627Why do you save things like this if you’ve never played any of the games?
>>746021270There's a lit of non bipedal legs. A lot of spider legs, tank "legs" and even "the wheelchair". And the believability is managed through weight, carrying capacuty abd energy output. Did you even play any ac game?
>>746029845I tried AC6 two times, but neither attempt lasted long.Other than that, the only vaguely similar game I played was MWLL and that opened my eyes to the fun of btfoing mechshits with actual vehicles.AC6 seems fun (sci fi kinda darksouls w proper ranged combat and fast movement), but I heavily dislike humanoid (legs-torso-arms-head) mechs as a concept.That's why I was asking if there was a model swap or anything, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>>746030273AC has always had at least one foot in super robot territory. It’s zoom with a big splash of stomp aesthetics.
>>746017647Even pre-nerf I considered him easier to beat than Maeterlink in the arena
>>746017647I think I died well over 10 times to this boss. Hated him, yet he felt like a rite of passage.But man did he have a banger battle theme.
>>746017647>Is pre-nerf Balteus the most powerful boss in gaming history?any shmup final boss is harderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inq1LYYxyt0
No one gets to talk to me about hard bosses till they beat MF with Terra.
Mathematically impossible to top.
>>746024631>happen to be testing flamethrower equipped when the C-weapons show up >completely dumpster themBoy howdy was I in for a surprise after going back to my normal setup.
>>746031069>those framedrops
>>746017647>Pre-nerfI beat him first try by pure accident. I decided "fuck it" and rushed him up close on hearing how annoying he was, only to be baffled by how quickly he died. Then I realised - everyone was fighting him long range.
>>746018781>Tfw i'm still stuck on this
>>746031561Speed demon, baby.
>>746017892Normies don't like mechaIt was a miracle we even got AC6
>>746018642Exactly this. Balteus is a pain because you have so few parts options. None of the later game bosses are as difficult as him, because you have the tools to handle them.
>>746018781One... Last... Plan...
>>746017647rugal from kof 94 clears, next
>>746021216>Lies of P Puppet King i think? I heard they nerfed him so hard he lost like 40% health lolHe still has a huge health pool. His health used to be so high the entire fight was a drag.
>>746017647Killed him pre-nerf with my laser pistols build. This was my first Armored Core game, too.
>>746017647I can.
>>746017647nigger you have to bum rush Balteus in melee range, by this point you should have the kick OS unlocked. use it. also kinetic weapons shred its pulse shield, ignore the garbage Takigawa Harmonics pulse guns, not only they look retarded but they're also useless but keep BUTTA for stagger punish.
>>746031561High speed, low drag. Pulse gun to break shield. Kick and pilebunker.
Dual shotguns and he dies fast.
>>746017647The first time I faced him I was in a heavy tank build with dual bazookas. Ended up killing him just as he killed me. Messed with my build but did worse and worse until I finally killed him 3 or 4 tries later. Fucking beginners luck.
>>746026828It would get very repetitive very fast, and ac6 is already kind of repetitive with the replays for new missions
>>746021270>>746030273hang yourself
>>746017701https://youtu.be/om6QZVMX9-M
>>746023685Never seen anyone beat the original version of it without the fastest boost and lightest weight.If you have a link of someone in slow build release patch, share it cause I wanna see how's done
>>746017647I don't know, I did him in 3 triesI never understood what people were struggling with.
>>746018826>Had more problems with the tutorial helicopterAlso thisThe helicopter is hard because you are forced to use a terrible piece of shit mech build that struggles at basic functionality. Also shit as a tutorial because the bad mech build teaches bad lessons. Everything else in the game you just build something good and steamroll it.
>>746017647Why is this fromsofts only game with DRM? I don't understand why they decided this game required two forms of DRM, including kernel level anticheat, but not Elden Ring.
the rounder in brigador killers is the hardest boss now
>>746018781what was his problem?
>>746038906Middle management
Played Armored Core VI last year, i beat Balteus with the initial ac build, didnt realize he was nerfed that much
>>746031447Pretty much nothing in the game has a real answer to just hold in at point blank, does it? The primary swapper is easily the most slept on OS upgrade for this reason. Take two melees, stick to something like a goddamn tick, and it will almost guaranteed die before you do.
>>746041067some bosses move too spastically to stick to them but most things in the game get instantly shredded by a 2 melee build.plasma thrower and quads also destroy basically everything in the arena but you can beat the arena with a weaponless basho so that's not saying much
>>746017647I don't get the discourse surrounding the filter of players with this and the heli boss, ACVI was the first AC game i played and i only had problem with Allmind/Iguazu boss fight and the Spider to a degree, anything else i blazed through.>t. played the entire game, 3 runs, WITHOUT any updates so no ''nerf''
Anyone that played AC VI and Shadow of the Erdtree after the nerfs did not beat the game.
>>746017647I still can't finish this game because for some reason my energy bar is visually maxed out at all times and I get autistically angry at not being able to see how much is being drained.
>>746018781>NO YOU'RE BELOW THAT>YOU'RE VERMIN
>>746043726you have to understand that for many soulsfags this was their first AC, they didnt know what to do when they couldnt just roll away
>>746018781https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew_AYz9Tcbc
>>746044147people are too retarded to use the assault boost that's the great filter
>>746017647People are vastly blowing the difficulty out of proportion. It was challenging, maybe took some people a few tries but far from being the brickwall you make him out to be.And you could cheese everything with tank treads anyway.
>>746017647>Shows up twice>Both times with an absolute fucking banger songhttps://youtu.be/aCu93MKq7echttps://youtu.be/FkGcXc4XeIA
>>746018781THE XYLEM IS DOOMED? GOOD
>>746044147It was mine too and I still beat pre-nerf Ibis after like 40+ attempts. Getting those combat logs from the wheels was utter hell though. I'll admit, I had to look up help and the flamethrower solved my problems.
>>746043726>played the entire game, 3 runs, WITHOUT any updates so no ''nerf''Lol so you played with all the busted weapons that got nerfed
It is mandatory to overboost directly towards Balteus as he's firing his missile barrage, not because it actually works, but because it goes hard.
>>746017701Wait, you can farm in AC?
>>746044356It wasnt soulslike and thank god for that, they were some difficulties spikes, in the middle and end of each chapter but the rest was fine, fun game
>>746017892It'd be so funny if they released a new Chrome hounds or Metal wolf instead of AC 6.5.
Balteus was hard on 1.0 because 90% of the weapons were dogshit. He's not even easier because they nerfed his missile tracking, it's because al of the basic rifles and SMGs you start with now deal like 200% more damage and have 200% more effective range than they did on release. The starter AC parts also got a flat buff across the board from its EN capacity to its damage resistance.
I find it funny that the game is so much more difficult if you decide to play without auto-lock on.Only time I had to use it and was almost forced to was for Snail Baltheus. Funny how much more fun the game and some bosses were without it too.
>>746044502>THE XYLEM IS DOOMED? GOOD
>>746045152I can't believe they killed Snail's voice actor in the studio with a flamethrower to get that scream.
>>746045081In Armored Core 4 and Answer, the lock and the camera was the worst ennemy in the game it was a pain to fight especially against fast ac but VI had better camera so its fun without lockon
Strategy for all the "hard" bosses>Shoulder missiles>Arm missile>Pile bunker>Buy the most balanced average range/width FCS money can buy>Spam missiles until enemy is stunned>Bunker them for half their healthWtf so hardAlso lol the sekiro system is shit
>>746044680>Think Balteus is peak>The game gets even more peak later onI wish fromsoft would stop wasting their potential making Nightreign/Duskblood slop and do more Armored Core already.
>>746044858Balteus is only hard because you're forced to play bread and butterIf you want to kill it in reasonable time>You have to have a solid damage cycle>You have to save your sword for break for any meaningful damageIt's lame
>>746017647a tank with enough firepower to blow the shield and its hp
>>746018642>Difficulty spike: halo shields and you got a shittier version of the plasma pistol that shoot gay bubbles to noob combo
>>746018781I'm still partial to Inner Owl & Isshin.
>>746021270Actual sincere autism, my condolences
>>746018781For me its "Intercept the Redguns"
>>746045387>The finale Rusty fight when he pulls out the second phase through sheer anime determination
>>746045791>I WON'T STOP>I'LL CHASE THE CLOUDS FROM OVER RUBICON>ONLY I CAN FLY HIGH ENOUGH
I swear to fucking Christ if no expansion is announced by the end of this year I'm gonna shit in an envelope and send it to FromSoft.
>>746046219I just want a (direct) sequel at this point with a new protag, ZoE2 style.The story doesn't really leave space for an expansion and there's no real need for a 4th route.
>>746046474>The story doesn't really leave space for an expansion and there's no real need for a 4th route.Yeah there is, I wanna join the Red Guns proper.
>>746045232He deserved it
>>746046474They should have you play the original raven doing the missions that let the corps break into Rubicon
>>746026828That adds nothing but slog to the game. Why are oldfags so retarded? If you wanna restart the mission, go ahead.
>>746044560idk picrel was my build for most of the game
>>746045791Love when during boss fights, the track gets vocals when the boss shows his willpower
>>746026828There's one mission like this where you have to fight an optional boss, 2 elites and then an end boss (the HC) with no heals or autosaves and it's annoying as fuck.
>>746018862yeah it does, but both Balteus and Cataphract look fine when you remove the humanoid robot
>>746038327i wish made a video out of my run that killed himcause i sure as shit didn't have the faster and best parts, i unga bunga'd him with melee weapon lol
>>746018834I agree Consort Radahn in his current state is harder than even prenerf Balteus. Regular Radahn was never hard
>>746020073the homing missiles have way less tracking
I won't miss...
>>746020494>>746018642they blanket nerfed all enemy tracking and Balteous entire kit because avoidable by simply holding left on your control stick. The nerf was overdone.
>>746018642The biggest issue with it was that you had to do the OTHER fight immediately before it with no checkpoint between.
>>746038327>Never seen anyone beat the original version of it without the fastest boost and lightest weight.thats funny because all the shitters used the tank treads and tanky core to stat check him pre-nerf. When you said >>you can only beat it with one kind of buildI assumed you meant a heavy mech
>>746017647They nerfed him?no fucking way, he was the hardest boss in the game for me
>>746045232>with that screamOn a side note, that female scream in the ruined city (before Ibis fight) makes me diamond.
>>746020073>How bad is the nerf?It went from this kind of fighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1mV_6-cvDAto this kind of fight:https://youtu.be/H-joNaUdXfE
>>746028457Armored Core starts at 4.
>>746051613Not a fair comparison because to S-rank the mission via a replay you've already unlocked gear off-limits to you by that point, and have access to AC mods that boost damage and durability.
Can't be that hard, I beat him pre-nerf and I'm shit at the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-asdoJBSvxgI wanna go back /v/ros
For me? It's Walter's theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-anU1M9y88
>>746051756>Not a fair comparison because i didnt watch the videonot an argument, retard-kun
>>746051914Anon you can't fucking S-rank the mission through normal gameplay, ranks are exclusive to the replay mission mode. Even if he's using a visibly dogshit AC, he has access to AC upgrades that increase its stats beyond what is possible in a vanilla story run at that point. Let's also not disregard the same update that reduced Balteus's missile tracking, they buffed the shit out of almost every AC part.
>>746051879>You found... A friend.fug
Shippers are the most annoying part of the fandom, reminds me the Mikasa shippers
>>746017647Something that always bothered me in armored core is why missiles dont have proximity fuses.
NO WAY TO KNOWTHE WAY TO DIVEI'M NOTHING IN THE WORLDHEY BOYNO WAY
>>746052112>Anon you can't fucking S-rank the mission through normal gameplay, ranks are exclusive to the replay mission mode.Hilarious levels of cope. so he replayed the mission? ok and?>he has access to AC upgrades that increase its statsits using starter missile pods and a rifle you unlock before that mission. And its not using the special abilities you unlock in later game, the post nerf vid is literally just strafing to one side meanwhile the pre-nerf guy is using every bell and whistle to beat it.Bro you are several layers of retardation buried under retardation>NOOO HE HAS ACCESS TO HECKIN MORE DAMAGEnot even the point even if it was true (it isnt) if you look at the post nerf fight the guy didnt even need to dodge ONE TIME.you fucking ape
>>746026184i didn't really have problem with it muchworked way better here than in shitkiro
>>746017647>Balteus30 seconds or less just blast em.
>>746045791>621....you found... a friend
>>746046219i think there's a good chance it might get announced at TGA, like VI did.After all they have multiple games being worked on and they *wink wink* said AC players will have something to look forward to
Once again, they're never doing another armored core after their parent company shit over them for not making enough shareholder value milking elden ring
>>746020073The difference is pretty significant. They didn't just nerf the boss, they also buffed the player quite a bit. Nevertheless, it's still a fun game.
>>746019039Regular Radahn or DLC Radahn? Cause DLC Radahn is a terrible final boss.
>>746045387Duskblood does look really lame, which makes sense since it's on a Nintendo console. I may play it if it ever comes to PC but no way am I buying an overpriced brick of a console to play one mediocre game.
>>746052546The same patch that reduced Balteus' missile tracking, the only nerf he received, also buffed nearly every single weapon was buffed in both damage, and had its effective range increased so shots no longer ricocheted beyond face range. It is irrelevant that he is using starter parts, the same patch we're talking about buffed them all. The motherfucker is using akimbo Ransetsu RFs, literally regarded as one of the best rifles in the game after this update, and is a consistent staple in AC6 PvP because of its absurd damage and accuracy.Completing the mission, and thus being able to S-rank it by replaying it, gives the player far more OS chips which boosts the damage of weapons and increases the damage resistance of the AC.You are a tertiary.
>>746054672*also buffed nearly every single weapon in both damage, and had its effective range increased so shots no longer ricocheted beyond face range.
>>746045387I'm really hoping nightreign and duskbloods are just experiments that benefit their next big project.
>>746026580lel
This piece of shit boss took me 3 days and about 45-50 tries to beat. It was the hardest boss battle I ever played and it pisses me off just thinking about it. If you beat him post-nerf then you didn't beat him at all, like not even a little bit.
>>746017647
>>746017647There was no problem with him the problem was that the age of reddit made everyone think they're a gaming pro so they gave DOGSHIT advice like using the bubble guns for bonus damage on shields while circle strafing him until you die. The correct strategy was to absolutely SMASH the shit out of him with high impact weapons and melee (like every fight).
>>746027120Balteus is pretty easy, even before nerf. Just git gud. I can easily beat him with meme builds, especially nowadays>>746027664Genuinely how retarded do you have to be to believe this
>>746058318>killed him in 6 triesi played the dlc like 2 days after it came out and i was expecting way way worse, people were talking about him as if he was some unavoidable killing machine when you can dodge most of his bullshit by rolling forward>>746027664>gets walled by balteus so hard he believes the game endedjesus
>>746021507iirc I had a lot of trouble with the spider that I eventually overcame manually, but it wasn't till after that I realized it's behavior changes based on how aggressive your movement is. The same applies to Ayre's final boss fight and Allmind as well. The more aggressive you boost around and try to out maneuver them, the more aggressive they move and act in turn. Playing as a tank or quad against them and moving more slowly is a much easier experience to deal with. Really incredible AI imo, but the flip side is that it's a little to easy if you play a slower AC
>>746020861You are an amazing shitter
>>746025304She's hard at first but like most of the bosses in AC6 once you beat her the first time, she becomes substantially easier on further attempts. I remember sweating so hard trying to beat her initially but now I can beat her without my heart rate moving at all
>>746026184I think in an expansion or sequel game they should keep it but tone down the extra damage done or make it so that it's just one possible mechanic you can try to exploit but you could very well build an AC that doesn't rely on it at all, as opposed to now where ALL ACs have to rely on it
>>746017647AC6 is fairly tough when you do stupid shit like light weight reverse joint builds like I do.
>>746044739Replay mission
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>>746017647The amount of assmad journalists and casuals on day 1 was INCREDIBLE, my schadenfreude was through the roof
>>746020660Holy LARPYou don't get the Zimmerman until after Balteus unless you're in NG+ in which case who the fuck cares anywayMaybe try playing a video game sometime
>>746017647I beat him in a few tries with a grenade launcher and the laser sword, not plasma sword. Don't really know why they nerfed him because it's not that hard at all even if it's in the game's top 5.
>>746054270>Duskblood does look really lame>I may play itEVERYTIME
>>746021270>Enter Armoured Core Thread>Mad that there are giant robotsGiga autism
>>746020073Nerf scale from strongest nerf to weakest nerfConsort Radahn > Elden Ring Duo AI > Balteus >>> Original Starscourge Radahn Nerf > Ibis >>>>>>>> Current Starscourge Radahn nerf > Blazing Bull
>>746054672well you are just stupid because I actually made a new game and got to balteous just to make that video and didnt farm up a bunch of OS chips to get S rank, you fucking schizo retard.Not only that but, again, it is besides the point because the damage i deal after the nerf is entirely irrelevant and you would understand that if you either watched the video or had an iq over 85.The fucking apes that are on this site, good lord.Go eat a fucking banana, faggot.
>>746017647Made me quit the game
Ironically enough its not the little missiles that got the huge nerf but the big missile and the shotgun. you used to have to juke or dodge them, now you dont. You could always kinda side step the little missiles, they would hit you more without dodging but not enough to do significant damage. t- I have pirated version of 1.01 and fully updated steam version. Old version feels way different, but its still not a hard boss if you build right for it.
dolls nest has better controls than ac6
>>746017647>hit enemy until staggered then bunker themlol epic!!! kino!!!!!!
>>746064996>I may play the game if it is on PC to see if it is worth playingNintendo fanboys are so deranged if they think this is somehow not a rational train of thought.
>>746018781idk if he's the best From boss in general but Snail is 100% the best From VILLAIN.None of the others come close.
>>746017647In terms of early game filters nothing will ever top this lil nigga
>>746018781This faggot just made me rage. Him and pic related can be absolute fucking nightmares depending on your build.
>>746021270What an unbelievable fucking faggot holy shit.
>>746017647He's literally all I can think of when thinking who's the most badass boss of all time? Pre-Nerf Balteus was GOD TIER, one of the most fun bosses ever made IMHO, but as usual devs trash their own game design with patches.
>>746017647did people actually have trouble beating him?i think arquebus balteus was a lot harder than this one
>>746069232Nah, the tears this choppa caused were like nothing ever before, it was literally The Great Filter
>>746069985Pre-nerf viper was consort-radahn-tier and he's the third boss in the game
>>746069985In fairness the fact that it regularly goes out of bounds when no other boss has that issue and your best weapon in mission 1 was your sword is retarded and bad game design.I love AC6 and the chopper still boggles my mind a bit.
>>746017647So happy i got to beat him pre-nerf. I remember pushing hard and really locking in with Takigawa Harmonic weapons to really shut down his energy barrier.
The intro helicopter took me more tries than pre-nerf Balteus.You have to beat the heli before you're allowed to even see the tutorial missions.It really wasn't that hard. Ibis is still harder than Balteus ever was
>>746068001>ITS GARBAGE!!>b-but perchance if it were on PC……
>>746045152Fucking perfect villain. I hated him the moment i met him and i laughed at his pathetic death with incredible glee. What a perfect hate sink of a character and he deserved every second of agony he got in his death.
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>>746017647>Who can stop him?me. after like 5 tries when learning about the dash -> kick -> sword combo.the spider was actually the hardest boss.
>>746017647I found myself going back to Armored Core 6 more times than ever replaying Nightreign. And i'm genuinely concerned Duskbloods is going to be no different after that trash Network test.From Soft need to go back to Armored Kino again.
why is armored core 6 one of the most kino games of all time? The music, scenes, and dialogue gives me chills every time.Yeah ive always liked mechs but not autistically. so i dont think im too biased.
Most retards can't even get past the chopper.Balteus is easy once you realize its better to sword him. Missiles aren't really a problem to dodge and the only one you gotta watch out for is that quick rocket or shotgun he does when strafing
>>746070768Balteus is (and was on release as well) easy once you just put on full nacht/alula + the Balam smgs they give you and keep a sword in your weapon bay.You outrun missiles just strafing.
>>746018862>>746047339The entire idea of "We designed these weapon platforms around simply slapping a mass produce mecha into them to serve as its cock pit/piloting system to save money" is cool. The problem is the PLA is established as having In-house manufacturing and development for their units. They aren't built around the laissez faire capitalism that AC units have that allows multiple corporations to sell parts around a modular mech. Each Mech is tailor made and not modular at all, so a very modular unit like Balteaus of Cataphract is odd as fuck.Also, even with the idea behind the mobile suits being installed I feel like they would just remove the legs, they serve no purpose and get in the way.
>>746017647this cunt hung me up for like 2 evenings.
>>746027627Equipping blood hound step and anime dodging all of her attacks made my dick so hard. I enjoy the progression from being a fragile mortal to a demigod
>>746017647Sick fight. I'm glad I accidentally pirated the pre-patch version
>>746070868Thought that was an old image of Last Light for a moment.
time to repost my paint job
>>746058318>and about 45-50 tries to beatDude, what? That's like, an hour or two of attempts. It took me over a hundred tries for the nioh 3 dlc boss that just dropped and that was only a few hours one night.
AC6 single player is only hard if you're retarded and rely on quickboost only when flying up and down is enough to avoid most attacks.
>>746070268I said it does look lame, I am not a braindead consoomer who just assumes because it has Nintendo on it is good or bad.
>>746062827No? The whole game is easy and you can clear every single boss in the game with default LOADER 4, the loadout given to you at the start of the game.
>>746017647He is the closest thing to a classic boss in modern gaming history. God I fucking hated that asshole, but it's those bosses that keep you coming back once you've mastered the game to whoop the fucking shit out of for fun. I feel like the system they have going is quite good, we simply need a removal of the stagger meter and at LEAST a tripling of engagement ranges. Add in more precise aiming for long-range weapons and it'd be golden.
>>746072690>removal of the stagger meterthere's a mod that does this and adds some other difficulty stuff + a bunch of new parts with passive statshttps://www.nexusmods.com/armoredcore6firesofrubicon/mods/156
>>746017647Nah, this guy was only hard because retards couldn't ADAPT or figure out how the game wants you to actually play (aka very aggressively). I remember recording a video for a friend who couldn't beat it for DAYS showing me beating it with the default Loader 4 with 0 OS Tuning just to prove to him the boss was not even hard. Then they nerfed him for no good reason.
>>746017647This game has identical gameplay to Overwatch yet /v/ glazes AC6 and seethes about Overwatch. Why is that?
>>746017647I swear to god I must've played a different game from the rest of the world. this guy was hardly notable on my playthrough.
>>746072895Damn, that sounds incredible. Thanks much, I'm going to try it out tonight.
>>746073349it's pretty hard, been some time since ive played it but i think i gave up on beating true ending with it
>>746017718Have you played Zone of the Enders 2's PC port? It has officially implemented VR and is part of the "anime-mech" genre like AC instead of "weighted" milsim shit like Mechwarrior or whatever.
>>746045732All the chatter between them is great
>>746017647>>746017647>>746017647>>746017647>>746017647>"pre-nerf"Does everyone know this mod exists?https://www.nexusmods.com/armoredcore6firesofrubicon/mods/56>"restores" Balteus, Sea Spider, and CEL 240.Balteus: Missile homing restored to original strength.Sea Spider: Resistances increased back to original values and giant exploding laser AoE radius increased back to original value.CEL 240: Triple laser sword swing lead tracking strength increased back to original value and Coral damage values increased back to original values.
>>746069450I realized very quickly that I wanted a bazooka or cannon for this guy, that and a melee to swap the cannon out for on the backRest was just pelting him with a rifle and missiles in between placed cannon shots
>>746018642I beat him pre nerf.
