Why were old PC games so fucking hideous compared to console games from the same period? Look at this shit. It looks like diarrhea.
>>746017985Sovl...
>>746017985The good console games were developed in Japan. Most normalfag PC games from the era were developed by westoids. Look to Japan if you want to see some gorgeous PC gaming from that era.
Diablo II isn't a great example, it was one of the last 2D games that weren't trying to be retro/nostalgic and it was limited to 800x600 iirc.
the chad Diablo>offers different playstyles & gameplay>pioneered THE signature aesthetics all grimdark video games would forever follow in the steps of (including Japanese games like Dark Souls)the beta japanese forgotten console game>no different playstyles, every character is just Attack/Magic/Item/Defend gameplay>no enduring impact on the gestalt, except for maybe Tifa's pointy boobies in FF7 becoming an iconic generational fap
>>746018651Dark Souls was inspired by the manga Berserk, not westoid slop.
>shit cherrypickingyou know what goes in all fields?
>>746018689And what was Berserk inspired by? Hmm?
>>746018841lmao gottem
>>746017985>assassin>not using claws>skills not even hotkeyed>lvl1 health pots in act 5what is this a marketing screenshot for a games magazine?
>>746018050Any recommendations?
>>746017985I don't hate this look, it's a vibe.
Fallout's artstyle convinced me that games need cool death animations
>>746017985In 2000 nothing on the PS1, N64 or Dreamcast had gameplay like Diablo 2 though. Also 3D PC games in 2000 looked way better than anything on the PS1 and N64.
>>746017985More colors gave developers more freedom with contrast.
>>746021654>gameplay like Diablo 2Diablo 2 doesn't have gameplay
Diablo is the Sweet Baby Ray's of video games.
>>746018689dark souls was inspired by demons souls which was inspired by kings field, which was inspired by ultima underworld
>>746017985different target audiences, autistic edgelords in their mid-late 20s tolerate more flaws in a game if it successfully satisfies their desires>yeah the game's jank but i can just turn my brain off and grind dungeons for a few hours and upgrade my gear so it's tolerable, game's still fun
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>>746017985the funny thing is, that the PC has always had the best 3D graphics. what would dick sucking 18yo biotrash know though.
>>746017985zoomer threadthat pic is croppeddiablo2 looked good
>>746018841drugs and depression
>>746017985Diablo 2 actually looks great if you play it at appropriate resolutions and don't fuck it up with some weird filter.
>>746017985what are you? 12 years old?
>>746021654>Also 3D PC games in 2000 looked way better than anything on the PS1 and N64.No they didn't, and in 2000 there was another console that also mogged PC games.Name any PC game that looked as good as soul calibur and shenmue in 1999.
PCs can't into graphics, it's a widely known fact.
>>746025903Look at those hand-drawn graphics, absolute SOVL. UE5 sloppers could never.
>>746025903American McGee's Alice was a PC game from 2000 and I think it still looks decent.
>>746026430System Shock 2 from 1999 looks old but not bad IMO.
>>746017985>trolling attempt in 1080
>>746026548Severance Blade of Darkness from 2001 had some of the most advanced water reflection effects at the time.
>>746021824Yes it does.
>>746025903>shitting on HOMM3 and AOE2I will not stand for it
>>746017985Japanese games also looked horrible.Specially when stretched unnaturally and added a sharpen filter
>>746021398None, this thread was made by the same lowcow nint0ddler tranny who is spamming the same flamewar op baits at /vr/ and other boards.For some reason he gets hemorhroids every time when someone defends sega games.Also for SOME REASON, the mods hasnt banned him yet, and it is been weeks.
>>746028749Not even Alf was retarded than this attwhore spammer.
why anyone wouild ever want to play PC games when they can play Mario or Zelda on nintendo instead beats me
>>746029049Because mario and zelda are shit, and konami did all the good games on all consoles.Nintendo, sega, nec, sony, MSX.It's all konami.
>>746028749I've been seeing someone seething about Half Life on /vr/ and /v/ at the same time recently, I wonder if it's the same person.
>>746027773That fag ignores ghe fact that nips loves strategy games and every fucking romance of 3 kingdoms and nobunaga sold like ice cream in a hot summer.Even battletech has a scene there.
>>746017985console games were made for literal kids, PC had a relatively more mature audienceyou're a manchild so you prefer consoles
>>746018689DeS/DaS has more western influences than Japanese ones, Miyazaki is open about them. Fighting Fantasy series was one of his biggest inspirations for example, most of the monster designs are directly from there
Pre-rendered graphics were a cancer that destroyed video game pixel art. Few people talk about this, and many even like this crap out of nostalgia, but it’s a fact that the artistic quality of 2D games (not just PC games, but arcade and console games as well, both in the U.S. and Japan) declined severely when "Donkey Kong Country"-style graphics became the standard in the mid-1990s. Notice how DK Country is still celebrated today as if it were a major breakthrough in art, when in reality they were replacing hand-drawn pixel art by skilled artists with shitty ass renders using primitive shapes on Silicon Graphics machines.
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>>746030960Stronghold is a great game. You should choke yourself out.
>>746025903real video games look like this
>>746017985>1080pnow display it in 640 on a 16' crt
>>746018841Idolmaster
>>746030960Detail: it's common for modern games that use pre-rendered graphics to look like vomit on the screen too.>>746031050Stronghold is an example of a job well done, since there’s clearly been a massive pixel-by-pixel touch-up of every asset; most of the elements are "non-organic" (3D pre-renders tend to work better for buildings, vehicles, and "geometric" elements), and yet, if you look closely, you’ll see a lot of things that stick out and would look much better if they’d been hand-drawn by skilled artists.But the industry isn't in this to lose money. If something cheaper looks good enough, they'll use it. If having skilled artists create pixel-by-pixel art were more financially advantageous, no one would have had to endure the garbage that games had become in 1995+, even if there were a few exceptions.
>>746030258>nips loves strategy games and every fucking romance of 3 kingdoms and nobunaga sold like ice cream in a hot summer.>Even battletech has a scene thereBased japs
>>746025903>posting kenshi as some sort of 'own'>the game made by one turbo autist in his garage with a bunch of scrapsbait used to be less overtly retarded
>>746031735What's the game up top?
>>746026817The shadows and lighting in that game were also pure sex for the time. It was also a better game than Rune.
>>746031847Actraiser remake i believe.
>>746032237I tried playing Rune and enjoyed the atmosphere but the actual combat just wasn't great. Same issue with Drakan which was disappointing because it seems like they would both be really fun if the combat was just a little better.
>>746018841Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and Idolmaster.
>>746028032>games look bad when you put a bad filter on themretard.
>>746025903>t-these games are bad because of the graphicssays filtered gun & ball tard whenever he sees a game that requires more than four buttons to play
>>746030960>pixel artPixel vomit and no, it can't be good by definition. It's in the same league with cubism and other garbage enjoyed by fart sniffing faggots
>>746021981>ultimaultima online was apparently really popular in japan with about 25% of the players being japanese at its peak
>>746032979>filtered by cubismThat's understandable, but are you seriously gonna claim that all pixel art is bad? Why do you think that?
>>746032979there's a huge difference between retro pixel art and modern pixel art
>>746017985D2 was still 2D in 2000 because they wanted lots of enemies on screen at once and didn't want to compromise on that. Console games would usually compromise on gameplay to push visuals, a lot of console games from that time ran at like 15fps.
>>746017985Still look better than FF7
>>746032610It is retarded simple, but OP seems to not grasp this concept.
The PC can produce mind blowing effects.
>>746017985Because most of them were made by westroons whereas japgods only made games for console
>>746021654Arcade rape your clickslop
>>746033991Arcade was dead at that time you baitfag lowcow tranny.
*turn PCs into machines that trounce consoles in games*
>>746017985That looks better than any psx or n64 game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPM0Kn_IS-Upeak of graphics
>>746017985Let's compare to this
>>746017985It's literally the opposite, you retarded faggot.>>746018050By the mid-90s, the japs were already a decade behind, and were stuck making shitty games for kids, which is why they primarily focused on consoles.
>>746033961I thought this was a prerendered backdrop till I noticed the thief guard
>>746035563that OST man
>>746017985This old shit still mogs any jrpg
In all seriousness, why was brown such an over represented palette in wrpgs in the 90s?It made sense in games like Fallout where vegetation is mostly dead and everything is dusty and rusted but why would a game like Diablo 2 focus on brown when it had zero reason to make lively worlds into muck colors?
>>746036947D2 is not brown, you dumb jeet. Best parts aren't brown at all.
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>>746025903>Age of Empires Definitive as an example of games that can't into graphicsAre you trying to piss me off? Because it's working..
>>746036947Act 1 and 3 are pretty green and then 5 is snowy.
<= Same year than Final Fantasy 7
>>746038625to think this masterpiece sold like half a million and still was considered a success. Adventure Games were really forgotten by then
>>746039081until around 2010, breaking 1million units sold was still considered as a success.
>>746035656both look good on a CRT instead of bad screenshots
>>746039312In the 90s you got awards for selling 100k copies.
>>746037550They're just as much brown as green and the desert area is light brown, half the game is brown even though they could make any kind of world they wanted.
