> Make a franchise about an ASSASSIN CREED in which you play as an ASSASSIN who's job is to ASSASINATE people> The story is about the sun being about to blow up so some ugly mixed race modern day guy is a "chosen one" by ancient alien gods to... stop the sun?> And the gameplay is just parkour?> And the setting is all anti christian and pro muslim?What the fuck????How does Elder Scrolls Dark Brotherhood do a better job at making an assassin simulator than this shit?
Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted. *Uncharted Theme starts playing*
>>746021902>game is called Assassin’s Creed>Not a single song off of Human Clay
>>746021902>And the setting is all anti christian and pro muslim?Someone didn't pay attention. All religions are fake, they don't take any sides. They even have King Richard be incredibly reasonable despite Altair having killed basically all his men. The series in general is also pretty good about showing Christians in a positive light with them forming hospitals, schools, places of learning, and defending their homes from invaders. Meanwhile everyone else is either completely insane, people deciding the Isu need to subjugate humanity again so they're gonna go full salted earth on all the religious people or subvert their religions, or literally turn to worshiping Satan and subjugate people. Arno, a staunch atheist, continually helps the clergy and nuns and stops said Baphomet and Satan-worshiping party because the Templars were behind it.Honestly, the only time I can think of where they outright criticize Christianity in any way is in Shadows and that's just with one specific Jesuit priest who enslaved Yasuke. Meanwhile the other guy is BFFs with Yasuke, shittalks the other priest in the encounters you have with him, and outright employs his help to learn about Japan.
>>746023114You're trolling so hard dude. AC 1 can't go 5 seconds without saying Christians are stupid and Jesus was a fake cheater who used the apple of eden to fake his miracles. AC 2 outright has you kill all the guards of the pope and say the entire church is evil and wants to use alien artifacts to control the population.Meanwhile Revelations outright refuses to name Constantinople and instead goes on and on about Ishtanbul and how muslims are diverse and awesome while the displaced christian Byzantines need to be genocided (and Ezio even burns their home and gets half of them killed in the fire)
>>746023379Muslims avenged Troy. Same as Romans.
>>746023379>AC 1 can't go 5 seconds without saying Christians are stupidLiterally the only thing you can bring up is the crier bitching about the Christians which, from their time period and perspective, is what they'd be complaining about. Jesus and Moses aren't even mentioned until 2 where they do the implication in The Truth content of Jesus having a Shroud of Eden and Moses having a Staff of Eden.>AC 2 outright has you kill all the guards of the pope and say the entire church is evil and wants to use alien artifacts to control the population.No, Ezio outright has no issue with the church itself even though he doesn't believe in the faith and you not understanding any of the ending that is on you. He specifically calls out Rodrigo for being the pope and being an atheist in that position. He hates him for being a massive hypocrite using religion to control innocent people and killing all those people to get to where he is just so he can advance the Templar goals of obtaining the Staff of Eden so that he can use the Apple on it to get into the Isu Vault. Rodrigo even in the fistfight says all religions are fake as he's bitching about Christianity being a book written by men immediately after this statement by Ezio.>and how muslims are diverse and awesomeIt literally shows that they're complete morons fighting for the throne and betraying one another.>and Ezio even burns their home and gets half of them killed in the fireWhich he himself realizes was a terrible thing and half the game is him making terrible choices without realizing the consequences.
>>746024135>Literally the only thing you can bring up is the crier bitching about the Christians whichI'm talking about every single interaction Desmond has with the scientist in Modern Day. >Jesus and Moses aren't even mentioned until 2Maybe you should play Assassin Creed 1.>He hates him for being a massive hypocrite using religion to control innocent people Right, he hates him so much he let's him live. Lmao.>Which he himself realizes was a terrible thingI literally finished it yesterday, when does that happen? In your schizo fantasies? He leaves proud of having gotten everyone there killed and when the fat templar tells him he's targeted a displaced minority of christians he just says "Oh yeah well uh you're evil!"Notice how in AC 1, the game you didn't play, Jesus is called a fake cheating bitch, but Mohammed is never mentioned in the entire franchise.
>>746023379>>746024646>At one point in his life, Jesus came into contact with a Piece of Eden known as the Shroud. He also on one occasion allegedly turned water into wine.Now, What does the Shroud do?>Regeneration and healing>Increased strength>Communication with Consus>After being betrayed by his disciple Judas Iscariot, Jesus was arrested by the Romans. Due to the Order's influence, he was then tortured and crucified on Golgotha in Jerusalem, while the Order took the Shroud for themselves.Jesus did literally nothing but miracles and help people with the piece of eden that he found and was tortured and killed for it.
>>746024646>I'm talking about every single interaction Desmond has with the scientist in Modern Day.Vidic is constantly insulting him for not finding the Apple, not ranting about religion. Even then, the one time I can recall him doing so it makes perfect sense because he's part of an organization that knows with 100% certainty every single religion in the world is false.>Maybe you should play Assassin Creed 1.I have, to 100% completion at least three times. The only thing I can remotely recall is Vidic's computer maybe mentioning something about Jesus having the Shroud barring one offhand comment of Vidic when Desmond is in the recovery room stating that all religions are fake.>Right, he hates him so much he let's him live. Lmao.Did you just not pay attention to any of the story? I directly gave you a screenshot of him baffled at the pope saying he doesn't believe in his religion. Here's the immediate follow up quote by the way, the one where he says every religion is false which I guess you just tuned out. The entire fistfight is Rodrigo directly stating that he doesn't believe in Christianity at all since he knows its origins through being a Templar, Ezio baffled that the pontiff is an atheist, then Rodrigo complaining about not having access to the Vault.>when does that happen?The assassination of the torturer leads to him getting to the guy behind it all who is purposely torturing and enslaving the people in the cave. The Templar himself is doing this solely so that he can gain a foothold over the region regardless of who is in charge. He literally says this during the Memory Corridor that it doesn't matter if the Byzantines or the Ottomans rule the area, the Templars will do it. Then moments later the uncle I believe it was comes and says he's tired of all the bloodshed to Ezio. Then Ezio leaves the cave, looks at the mess he's made, and returns to speak to the prince about the mess that just happened and how to stop his uncle.
>>746025640Okay now do muhammad
>>746023114>All religions are fake, they don't take any sidesAll religions are fake but the assassins would NEVER EVER kill an imam or a rabbi
>>746026174what's your point?the original topic I was discussing wasn't about muhammad and I never brought him up in my comment.so why would you ask me to search up a different thing without providing anything of value yourself?
>AHHHH HELP ME EZIO! The Christian minorities we've been torturing and killing are rebelling against us!>Of course Yusuf! That's what the assassins are for! Tell Prince Suleiman that I love his work! Such a good boy who dindu nuffin!
>>746026445It demonstrates the point the neither Ubisoft nor the assassins are neutral. Theyre happy to call Jesus a fraud but don't have much to say about Muhammad.
>>746026707Its actually genius when you tihnk about it, Abstergo Industries is rewriting history to be more sensitive to muslims and mohammad so they dont get bombed since theyre a french company
>>746026707ok but do you realize that point is irrelevant and completely made up because nothing in the wiki or games states jesus as a "fraud", which I LITERALLY SAID in this post>>746025640
The ancient aliens shit was so fucking lame. Always the worst part of the series.
>>746026818>nothing states Jesus as a fraudThe game states Jesus needed the magic shroud to do miracles, meaning the power of His miracles were neither of Him nor the Father, they were sourced by a magic blanket, that's fraudulent. Also Jesus wasn't crucified for doing miracles, He was crucified for claiming to be the son of God.
>>746026772>Abstergo Industries is rewriting history to be more sensitive to muslims and mohammadBut anon, the Assassins are the biggest pro muslim group there is while the templars are constantly shown as christian.
>>746026772I'm assuming 9/11 still happens in the game, who did it?
>>746022086WHAT IF WHAT IF WHAT IF
>>746027451>who did itAssassins, the WTC was a Templar HQ
>>746027451The twin towers were full to the brim of WHITE MIDDLE CLASS CHRISTIAN BANKERS. The assassins had to do it
>>746021902It was about finding out the creed was being manipulated by the templars all along. Anon didn't even play it. It wasn't the true assassins creed till Altair fixed everything.
>>746027557>Altair fixed everythingIs that why old man Ezio is smoking Christians left and right while he buddy buddies with the fucking ottomans?
>>746026356Yeah, because at this point when would it make any sense? Of course they're gonna be quiet about the Religion of Peace™ because they've seen what happens when you directly do stuff to insult them, and with regards to rabbis when in the world would that make any sense? Outside of a game set around either Moses freeing the slaves or Jesus' time, both of which wouldn't really work as settings, where exactly would these rabbis exist in? WW2? The setting entirely based around the Templars and Assassins playing chess with world leaders and both of them playing both sides? You want to play an MC siding with Hitler for the Templars just for shock value?They specifically chose the Borgias because he was by far the most corrupt pope in the entire church's history so it's not like people would care about tainting his image further and it worked well into their story about the Isu and no religion being true. Meanwhile Ezio directly helps out Copernicus with his work and he was a devout Christian despite him once being a Templar, Ezio helps Leonardo who was a Christian as far as we know, he stops the assassination of a man playing Jesus during a passion play in Brotherhood, and in Revelations he literally saves the Orthodox Patriarch in Revelations.Even then in Mirage Ali is a practicing Muslim who won't stop shouting about Allah and the game makes him out to be a reckless and suicidal nutjob.>>746027451They never said but we know the Templars were in charge of George Dubya so it's debated they did it as a false flag for more control.
>>746027557>till Altair fixed everything.Doesn't Altair become a very sad and pathetic cuckold in Revelations who's wife is killed like a bitch, who's son is killed like a bitch, who's forced to flee his order and tons of assassins hated him and resented him and he only managed to come back to the order when he was very old and he basically forigves the man who killed his wife and kid?
>>746027451>who did it?Inside job
>>746027451in the AC universe it was actually bin laden
>>746027896wtf are you saying lmao he went back to the order with the apple and shot the nigga dead with a wrist pistol
ae playing blackflag resyncedi love how op a brace of pistols is
>>746028192Yes after years of being a pariah and having his family killed. He did the entire plot of AC 1 saving the order only for the order to turn on him and kill his family.
>>746027772The catholic church was crooked as hell back then. After getting brainwashed by them and then finding out about said brainwashing... cause and effect. they were built to be killers so they killed those that wronged them. >>746027896Sort off... you got the end wrong. He shows back up to the creed when old but is warmly welcomed back as he killed the templar that was brainwashing and using them.
>>746028347"the order" turned on him because Abbas manipulated and lied to them after Altair told Abbas the truth that his father killed himself
>>746029431The assassins expressly state that they aren't a military arm, yet here they are killing the minority oppressed defending force to help an Islamic conquest.....This isnt about the Christians being gud boys, it's that in this time in history the Muslims were 1000x worse
>>746029431>He shows back up to the creed when old but is warmly welcomed backIs that before or after you have to kill like half the order beecause half keep attacking you and half keep calling you mentor?And what a coincidence the half that call you mentor didn't do shit when the other assassins killed Altair wife and son.
>>746026862Its the one way they can stay historically faithful but still have fantastical things happenas well as have a cohesive anchor in spite of nearly 3000 years of whatever the series spans
>>746029518>"the order" turned on him because Abbas manipulated and lied to themDo you not think it's an extremely retarded story?Altair stops his evil templar master from using the apple to control everyone after he mind controlled everyone in Masyaf. Immediatly after, nobody believes him and there's resentment against him? Years later everyone turns against him, kills his son and his wife and even mocks him after doing that? And then he comes back years later with his tail between his legs and half try to kill him, half call him master (notice none of that half had helped him years ago).It's very poorly written misery point, did you even see how Maria dies? And how Altair is just "forgive and forget" to his wife's killer? And all that in the game in which Ezio is rabid against christians and wants to genocide them all so muslims can live in their "diverse" utopia.
>>746029621>>He shows back up to the creed when old but is warmly welcomed backliterally the screenshot you posted
>>746029914>Do you not think it's an extremely retarded story?yes I think it's retarded>And then he comes back years later with his tail between his legshe literally has the apple of eden, he can literally turn people to ashes and have them fight for him. he is not defenseless at all. he came there to kill and cleanse the order.
>>746027872>Of course they're gonna be quiet about the Religion of Peace™ because they've seen what happens when you directly do stuff to insult themThen maybe they shouldn't act all edgy about religion when they're not brave enough to go against all religions. If they only go against Christianity then it simply means they are anti-Christian not anti-religion.
>>746029586Honestly at that time period both Muslims and Catholics were pretty savage.
>>746032049>honestlyHonestly no, this was prior to the 4th crusade. All that CATHOLIC SAVAGERY they taught about in schools was primarily defensive against the explosion of Islam
>>746032236Correction: sorry I misread the chain and thought you were talking about Asscreed 1.
>>746026356In AC1 more of your targets are "Muslims" than "Christians" (They're all really just like weird atheists or something)
