Is archery a stealth skill?
Stealth archery is
>>746029773>Is archery a stealth skill?In morrowind, oblivion, and skyrim, archery belongs to the stealth specialization
>>746030380As it should, archery irl makes no sense if it's out in the open, enemies can just side step that bitch with ease
>>746029773Don't listen to those niggers above—archers, just like crossbowmen, are warriors; stealth means sneaking around, avoiding detection, spotting traps, picking locks, etc.
>>746029773Hmm, is that a concious decision that the developers made and a one that my autism doesn't agree with? Must be a bug.
>>746029773In the vanilla game yes, but USSEP changes it to a Warrior skill
>>746030896Ebony mine status?
>>746029773there is no way the developers intentionally decided to have this affect archery, clearly a bug that must be removed
>>746030616do you know how fast an arrow is? by the time you twitch your leg muscles to move you're already hit
>>746030896>there should still be Oblivion gates in Skyrim 200 years later
>>746030616>archery irl makes no sensePick up a history book.
>18 skills in the game>three archetype categories with six skills each>this must be a bugNo real autist could reach such a conclusion, he must have some other kind of mental illness
>>746031418>boomer hours
Time for stealth haha
>>746031878Inside the cities too, which didn't happen in oblivion.
>>746031878The funniest thing about this is that in Oblivion they collapsed instantly after they were shut off.
>>746029773It can be and is genuinely most effective when it is.Stealth is just as OP IRL as it is in vidya.
>>746030672Bows are commonly used by hunters, and being a hunter usually requires a degree of stealth so as not to alert your prey.
>>746033784The Guardian Stones have those spread unevenly with 6 magic skills, 5 combat skills and 7 stealth skills. Still, this is obviously an exception done for the thief archetype to have a combat skill and 'fixing' this doesn't belong in a bug fixing mod.
>>746029773It has natural synergy with stealth yes.
>>746029773I don't get the wank for the stealth archer build. It's a boring playthrough.
>>746037324How is it any less boring than full charging in without even a semblance of a plan or casting nukes from out of reach? At least it demands problem solving unlike every other class which happen to be braindead unless you gimp yourself on purpose
>>746037324>boring playthrough.skyrim combat is boring no matter what the first play through is carried by exploration and novelty of seeing all the places and quests for the first time and even then it starts too get old way before you are done with everythingDon't get me wrong I liked it a lot in 2011 but the only time I tried to replay it I got bored of it 2 hours in
>>746030896They had to give a combat skill to rogues because daggers are under One-Handed, which is a warrior skill.Absolutely retarded move to merge four different weapon types under a single skill tree.
>>746037324Its a fake cultural memory, atroturfed from modern day to the past. Only the super try hards played stealth archer because they were playing on super hard mode. Most people just played spellsword and used shouts.
>>746030896Autism truly is a double edged sword
I picked the right one. Did I fuck up?
>>746037990Well you didn't pick the wrong one
Game theory: stealth archery is the most broken skill because the Dragonborn was living a hunter-gatherer life in the Jerrals so he's already a natural stealth archer
>>746037442Being an open powerhouse is way funner than slow long sneaky sneak where you retreat and wait a minute after every shot..
>>746038316This guy actually played the game.
>>746037860Oblivion was the stealth archery game because the thieves guilld and dark brotherhood quests were the best ones, and you could jump on top of houses and guards couldn't hurt you.Then everyone attempted to replicate this experience in skyrim.
>>746037860The fake cultural memory is you retroactively pretending it doesn't exist because you don't like it. Sneak crit sniper abusing the retard npcs was everywhere from oblivion into fallout because it's the easiest and strongest tactic by far.
>>746037324It's fun.
>>746038689nta but he's right stealth archery is only relevant at high difficulty 90% of people that played skyrim on release(probably more like 99% but I want to be generous) were casuals and normies that played on the default difficulty where you can just stand still and trade hits with everything until it diesHe never said it doesn't exist you straw manning faggot only that it was a thing only a small minority of tryhards did which is truethat narrative that it was so prevalent or even the most common way to play is 100% revisionism by that small minority because they are way more likely to still be discussing the game 15 years later than all the milllions of aforementioned normies and causals>tl dryou are wrong and literally autistic
>>746041227Pretending to be someone else doesn't really work in service of such a specific, autistic and wrong attempt at revisionism. It was never about difficulty (there is none) it was entirely because sniper crits are cool and satisfying to the average gamer's monkey brain so it becomes the default opener to pretty much any combat encounter, whether its chunking a hp sponge boss or picking off townspeople without starting a fight.The only people who don't do it are literal subhuman cavemen who don't know how or deliberate roleplayers forcing themselves not to.
>>746037324People liked the damage multipliers and found fun in that. Liked combat archer more myself.
>>746041736>autistic retard cant conceive two people might disagree with him on something and cries about le samefaggingLmao why is this so common?What would the first anon even gain by pretending to be a second person?It's so pathetic and doubly so when done to me since I have such a distinct writing styleI guess it's just like you can't conceive your experience(or those of the niche bubble you were in) is not universal or how you can tell the difference between "only some people did it" and "it didn't exist" because you can only think in binary absolutesThe reason for all the above is literal autism and the low IQ kind at that
>>746042312>What would I gain by pretending to be a second person? Reinforcing your headcanon as the popular consensus to gaslight who you're arguing with as the odd man out. On the contrary there is in fact no other purpose to identify yourself as someone else on an anonymous basket weaving forum if your opinion is exactly the same anyway, as the response will still be that you're wrong and retarded.
>>746037324>It's a boring playthrough.Thats the whole point of it. Skyrim doesnt offer you any rewards for using a variety of weapons or combat styles. Its a boring easily digestable experience. And thus with repetition every player is funneled torwards taking out enemies fast from a distance without having to engage them outside of breaking up the monotony. The average player however instead of looking at this and realizing Skyrim isnt such a great game doesnt even think about any of this, they simply find the path of least resistance and keep going because they get enjoyment out of killing and looting shit over and over, no matter how its accomplished. Skyrim is shit and because most players love eating shit they love Skyrim.
>>746030672t. Arthmoor (fag)
>>746037949They need to be kept on a tight leash.
>>746031878Akatosh fire prevents Oblivion gates from appearing
>>746044183Can't some conjurers make a temporary one appear?
>>746030616One arrow maybe, if you have superhuman reflexes. A thousand arrows fired in a volley is another story.
>>746030896Arthmoor is such a fag. Why isn't there a less retarded autist out there who can make patches?
>>746030896>Arthmoor seems like a complete fag, I should disable his patch>DEPENDENCY REQUIRED: x100000000000000
>>746029773here's what it says in the creation kit, this is what it's like in the vanilla gamearchery is a combat skill
>>746045630Well done, anon! Your investigation gave OP the answer he asked for... or did it? You failed to read between the lines, anon. This is a autistic drama thread, not a generic question thread!
>>746037324it's the only build that makes the game easy, that's why